How the Switch KILLED Handheld Gaming
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 เม.ย. 2024
- The Nintendo Switch was undoubtedly a massive success for Nintendo, but how did it change the handheld gaming space as a whole? Well, that's what I attempt to answer in this video.
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The 3ds felt fun, they had so many cool whistles and bells with everything. The switch is just “convenient” if your joycons aren’t busted.
3DS good
stitch bad.
3ds is fun, but sometimes dont u wish u can play Celeste or burnout paradise or Tony hawk pro skater or dark souls 1 on the 3ds? Boom switch is better. Every handheld owners dream is to play true 3d games with good graphics on a handheld. Mario 3d land is ok but very limited compared to what u can do in mario Odyssey. U can't compare except the size switch is the ultimate upgrade from a ds
@@videogameguy3722 *coughs up PinBox and Moonlight Game Streaming* (Kinda a joke XD you can play anything a PC can run on a 3ds if you have good wifi, buuut yeah the switch isn’t gonna be as laggy with that stuff XD)
@@videogameguy3722 Ew no. Switch is ass. 3ds is billion times better. Switch games are just demakes of Wii u games, so really the switch is just like the PS4. No games.
@@Lou-yf1jo u don't have to buy the exclusives lmao there's other games
Point 1 that things are going badly with the Pokemon games is a much bigger problem with Pokemon as a franchise. Point 2, it is the last year of the switch, of course all games are smaller. And point 3 let's all be honest, Nintendo never had competition in the handheld market. If Sony or Microsoft ever decide to make a hybrid console, they will have to do something unique because Nintendo is almost impossible to beat in handhelds.
Sega and Sony tried to failed. The psp had its success but the vita dropped the ball so hard by Sony’s lost of interest in handheld gaming and focused on console gaming
@@therealjaystone2344 An advantage of a handheld is that it is much cheaper to make and therefore it is also much cheaper for people to buy. Imagine a parent sees the Switch for 300 and then a Playstation or Xbox for 500, guess which one the parent is going to buy. The same for students
Sony did put pressure on them with the PSP. At the time, that was the closest we had gotten to having console level games on a handheld. I think they kind of messed up with the PSP Go going all digital that soon and that in itself pushed people away from the Vita. Now Nintendo has to worry about phones. iPhones are now capable of playing triple A titles, Nintendo's only good strategy now is to focus on the games themselves.
while the main series pokemon games have always been handheld exclusives up to ultra sun and ultra moon, not all pokemon games in general were handheld exclusives prior to the switch. pokemon box ruby & sapphire, pokemon colosseum, and pokemon xd gale of darkness were home console spinoffs for the gamecube and pokemon stadium and its sequel were n64 exclusives
The amount of stretching in this video I thought we were doing yoga half way through 😂😂😂 The switch is already phasing out why are we still whining about it??
The most baffling decision Nintendo made with the Switch was putting an OLED screen on the regular model. The main benefit of having an OLED screen is going to be the visual clarity, and that's completely wasted on a console that's going to sit in a dock half the time. Why would you not put the OLED screen on the Switch Lite instead? It's handheld _only_ so people are gonna be staring at the screen the whole time.
The Switch lacking any sort of social features kills it for me. It's so boring to use for me, now add game prices being so expensive, the EShop being so terrible to navigate, and the general portability being a bit annoying to deal with, I just don't have much of a reason to use mine if I'm not already playing a game on it. Compared to the 3DS, where even if I don't wanna play any particular game on it, I at least have things I WANT to do. Streetpass activities, Miiverse via Pretendo, drawing applications, I could go on. Heck, even comparing to my Steam Deck, the user interface is super customizable and works pretty well, I can add whatever games I want to it, it's honestly really comfortable to play on, and Steam Sales make it really easy to get new games on the cheap. Sure, it's less portable then even the Switch, but I'll take the trade off for having an entire PC in my hands. Just like a Laptop, a carrying case feels appropriate for it.
If I had to pick something to bring on pretty much any sort of car trip, I'd probably choose bringing my 3DS or Steam Deck over the Switch, cause the former is super easy to carry around and easy to play casually, and the latter has my entire Steam library + emulators and anything else I wanna add to it. The Switch just lacks any excitement for me even when I try to use it, and buying games that are super expensive for a system I don't enjoy using makes it really hard to enjoy it in general.
Even when the switch 2 comes in 2025, it is already outdated because it was already made in 2022. The games will have the same problem running at 30fps being unplayable and the casuals don’t stay for long and they can be easily be emulated.
OGDS: classic charming stuff.
3DS: just fancy presentation.
SWITCH: has Capcom Fighting Collection.
never played it. maybe i’ll give it a look!
OGDS: can be folded and put in my pocket.
3DS: can be folded and put in my pocket.
Switch: can be folded and put in the trash where it belongs.
Steam Deck: Switch who?
Handheld gaming is in the best place it has ever been in my opinion. Very happy to have handhelds finally that have full controls, video out and enough power to play whatever. I just played a bunch of halo campaigns on steam deck. Couldn't even imagine doing that a few years ago. The Switch definitely proved handhelds are a viable market and that it's ok for them to be bulkier and more powerful
I will never understand why people want streaming apps on the switch or any game console, like im not buying a switch or a ps5 to watch netflix? Why would any one need it on a game console if you want to watch netflix on your switch on the tv? If you have a seitch you have a smart tv in this day and age and those have streaming apps, you want to watch netflix in bed? Just watch it on your sour phone or and ipad or anything but why on a switch? I dont know about people who want streaming apps but i im buying a gaming console to just play games i dont even want discord on my switch i want to play a game i dont want to be spammed by notifications when im playing
Now a days it seems like it's on anything with a screen. I remember it being a huge deal when they added Netflix to the Xbox 360, I think you could even watch the movie with Xbox Live friends for a little bit. It made a lot more sense back then, having one thing be your media/entertainment center.
This is a person who clearly doesn't travel. As a military man I'm always on the go. Living in tents, barracks, and hotels. The switch is compact and easy to pack. I don't want to carry too much electronics with no way to secure them. I've been hoping for years they at least put Disney or Netflix on the switch.
@@wrecktheinternetYeah sure buddy, because everyone is a homebody like you, sitting around watching their smart TV.
@@wrecktheinternet The 360 and PS3 predate that stuff. Most people didn't jump into Smart TVs until well after they came out, and why watch movies on a tiny screen when you could watch on your TV? And why invest in a streaming box/smart tv when your console can do everything those can do and more? It made perfect sense for the consoles to support Netflix and Hulu when they were still relevant. I think some people still do it today because they've been doing it that way for 15 years at this point.
@@sergeant1446 you know ipads exist? And laptops? Which are milion times better for watching stuff than on a 7 inch 720 p screen. you can buy a second hand ipad for like 150 and have a bigger screen better speakers and you can actually lock it unlike the switch and you can track it with find my if someone steals it unlike the switch so osur point doesnt really stand up
I think you said it best. The switch isn’t giving us the best of both worlds cause it’s not the best home console or handheld it could be. Also I REMEMBER FACE RAIDERS
face raiders honestly just feels like a fever dream
@@mjshinyhunter I’ll never forget that final boss, I was in a barber shop nearly raging it was so hard
how was bro cutting your hair if you were squirming around playing face raiders 💀💀💀
@@mjshinyhunter don’t worry I was waiting while someone else was getting their hair cut
I disagree
The reason that nintendo makes their games so expensive (even if they feel like handheld games) is because they can.
If the switch was just a handheld, people would be pretty outraged (deservedly) at such prices, Nintendo gets plausible deniability with this.
Remember, companies exist to make profit.
I could see the Switch being a stepping stone to something greater, but with Nintendo always trying new ideas, any concept that doesn't continue the hybrid situation feels like a step back. Nintendo is also known for taking steps back even when the community tries to warn them.
I could see a day where Nintendo puts out a Switch model with enough specs to run 8K docked at higher framerates, while keeping handheld mode at 720p with 60fps to save battery. Improving on the controls, adding a clamshell design as well as a stylus for the touch screen, and then putting out updates to be more user-friendly (various console themes, a pay-once virtual console that ties your bought games to an account they can future-proof for later consoles, having free online peer-to-peer service since there are no servers, etc.) is the ideal situation that I just feel is a lost concept to Nintendo.
They're not making fun things people can enjoy and pay for. They're focusing too hard on the money and letting their products suffer because of it... and people have noticed.
I really hope the Steam Deck and the next PlayStation handheld really pushes Nintendo. The Vita was amazing - OLED screen, hall effect sticks, etc. It's biggest issue was the proprietary SD cards. If Sony makes another Vita without those limitations, I think it'll push Nintendo out of their comfort zone.
Exactly. While everything else is facts but what is totally beyond Fact is the Switch isn't becoming something very specific that no one can lean on it specially for what said use.
It explains why Big games that have no business being on Switch at all but it is good due to its handheld counterparts that makes it acceptable as playing on a big screen wouldn't be a must at all due it's graphical sacrifices.
The Rebooted Doom games are a clear example.
And also the Switch isn't as simple to do the same purpose the DS/PSP Bloodline of making it simple to put their entirety in pocket and easily between quick minute play sessions, without removing the controllers and Tablet to one Pocket and the other.
Thankfully the Switch Lite does solve that purpose abit but wish they added a clam shell to protect the face and sticks. Lol....
Out of everything in this video, two points really resonated with me, the game pricing and the lack of social/"time waster" features. Literally everything is $60, like you said, even stuff that feels like $30-$40 3ds titles. And there is very little reason to take your Switch anywhere because there's no streetpass-style features, no local chatrooms, nothing that incentivizes gaming on the go aside from the console... being able to undock. It would have been such a uniquely Nintendo thing to reward you for going outside (see streetpass, pokemon go, etc). Imagine walking around outside or passing other Switch owners rewarding you coins to unlock themes, or fighting people you pass in Ultimate! Part of the reason they didn't do this is likely that it's not really pocketable. The only reason to have a Switch is basically just that the games are good.
I can’t use the handheld mode because it doesn’t register the joycons being connected to the screen.
Part of the fun, when it comes to handheld games, was the grind of finding a good game that worked super well on the handheld and was tons of fun. Ever since if got my PSP slim, I was out there looking for a game that was more than just an unsatisfying scaled down version of whatever was on the PS2 or about to get released on the PS3.
Like that one assasins creed game for the PSP but than were gems like monster hunter freedom unite 2. Gosh I did my first lan events with that game and friends sitting together in a room trying to get the next gear.
4:27 The joycon controllers are far from "fine" for playing in handheld mode. There's basically no ergonomics to the back side for supporting my unused fingers and the way I have to cock my hands to move between the face buttons and joysticks literally causes cramps. As an adult man the Nintendo Switch is basically useless in handheld mode except for very brief periods of something like Mario Kart 8. They need to take a page out of Valve's book and just have real, proper controllers attached to the console and let people buy pro controllers or aftermarket guest controllers if they need to do multiplayer. Hell we even 3D printed gips for our joycons because they were so uncomfortable to hold when trying to use them for docked couch multiplayer.
I got some bigger Eevee joycons and all those problems went away for me, sucks you have to blow an extra $60 for bigger joycons though. Would record them since they are more comfortable for your fingers
personally, i've actually never undocked my switch. why? it's too big to fit in a pocket. i can easily bring a gameboy or even a 3ds xl around in a pocket. but not the switch. on top of that, it has thumb sticks that jut out and stab your leg or get damaged from all the torsion pressing around on them. you gotta carry around an even bigger case to protect it. it should've had a flip closed cover built in that folds all the way against the back when in use, and covers the front with pockets for the sticks and buttons to hug snuggly when not in use. fitting in a pocket would still be hard, but doable then. i think there's still a market to bring out a smaller dedicated handheld
It’s also so odd that the switch has gimmicks that it’s games hardly even use, like the little sensor on the bottom of the right joycon and the fact the switches screen is touch screen but doesn’t even come with a stylus. I really hope they bring the charm that Nintendo consoles had back for whatever they’re planning next, I don’t have my hopes up too much tho
Hey! I remember Face Raiders!
Nah, it was not the switch that killed handheld gaming, it was the smartphone, which did everything better specially with emulation and bluetooth controller support
5:45 I really miss the Miiverse. I didn't get into it until later in the life of the WiiU so I didn't get to use it as much as I would have liked, but I didn't realize just how cool some of its features were until it was on its way out. Even the Windwaker HD remaster integrated with Miiverse for sending bottles to other players. The shutdown of Miiverse just makes features like that useless, and makes me question Nintendo's ability or willingness to build features with the future in mind. It feels like they make stuff that's really cool "right now" with no forward planning on how or whether they're going to maintain those features long term.
Ever since Nintendo merged their handheld and console devisions they killed handheld gaming. Games like Pokemon and Wario Ware that used to be portable games have turned to trash on Switch. And we don’t get as many games like Ever Oasis and Bravely Default. Yes there’s a BD2 on Switch but it lost its soul.
i’d love to see a sequel to ever oasis on switch. i had so much fun with that game back on 3ds
Netflix for 3ds was exploited for Hombrew once so I guess that’s why they still done have it (well if I remember correctly)
I just bought my very first Switch last month 😂
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4:00 - 4:19 no lies detected.
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As much as i love the switch i don't think it necessarily killed handheld gaming as nintendo is such an experimental company, they might throw a curveball with a future console that's hypothetically handheld or console that some might turn and say "Wtf were they cooking???", your points about the flaws the switch had i agree 100% the switch is something i have to force to be a home console just because of how weird it is to lug around, so i just take my DS instead on the go as many great games it has i wish it had just more personality to it like the wii u and 3ds.
The only platform that is still developing short and fun and also gimmick games aka handheld games is mobile, from candies n curses to many more games that are made to be able to pick up on the go,
That includes fun chibi remakes of old games like the final fantasy 3d series that previously were psp and Nintendo ds exlcusives
But even so mobile gaming is gaining more double aa , triple aaa and also indie games from pc and consoles than before, so hades, resident evil, gta 3 etc are going to be the mainstream type of games that will possibly reign on mobile in a few years
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And how the Steam Deck revived it.
…how the handheld gaming killed the switch…
Complaint about voice chat, messaging and friend codes is pretty first world issue stuff. You are mobile. Go out to friends. Use your smart phone to communicate lol
This is a video summarizing issues with the switch. It is going to mention things that are important to gamers, like built-in voice chat. There are workarounds, but it should be built in.
@@Sarah_Bragg and I can voice my opinion and in my opinion it is no different than complaining that the switch won't make you a sandwich.
Also, child, do you think I'm not someone who plays video games? Don't you have a discord or something? Honestly.
@@user-yp8gg7gw2n Sorry for assuming, but most people that play games don’t complain about other people wanting more features on game consoles. I’d only ever heard it from non-gamers before. But regardless, the switch is a home console. Basically all other modern home consoles can do this, so the fact that it is missing on the switch without explanation is something that is reasonable to have issues with. If most other modern home consoles at the time of the switch’s release could make me a sandwich, I would expect the switch to be able to make me a sandwich. It isn’t that it’s necessary and more that it’s a standard feature on a home console. I expect home consoles to have built-in voice chats, just like I expect them to be able to play games.
Anything regarding a switch critique is gonna be first world issue stuff lmao
@@weebeegeenov3634 bullshit features are still bullshit features. Just seems stupid to complain about when in the past they don't work well. I stand by what I said.
Switch is good because it has all my favourite vita games like danganronpa and P4 and I can also play them on my TV without buying it twice like I did with Street fighter 4 I bought that game twice in the 2010s
More like Switch save Handheld Gaming...
I am not defending nintendo but I think no nintendo switch game is cheaper than 60 dollars because the cartridge of the switch are expensive so even a small game or a remake has to be 60 dollars and they wont put it cheaper in the e shop because that will kill the physicals sells
I hate when people complain about prices since all these games you're complaining are selling well anyway so it isn't just hardcore nintendo fans it's just twitter users complaining that have no idea how business works
I agree. Gamers have gotten greedy. Games like gta 6 should probably be more than $100 based on how much effort they put in. I’m pretty sure Nintendo loses money on games like breath of the wild and make it up with games like Mario vs dk. No company has redefined gaming as much as Nintendo and they still make some of the best games while never betraying their family friendly mission statement
@blashco When I can get 30+ hours in cheap games like hollow knight and hades, why in the ever loving fuck would I ever buy games that have less content than them for more money? (looking at you princess peach show time)
Call me greedy all you want, but I refused to buy any games at 60 - 70 eu these days. Its just a terrible price to pay when there are so many good games you can enjoy for 30 eu and less.
Besides, most of them youll be able to get for cheaper after a few months of release.
@@blashco Except Breath of the Wild, even if the 'it needed 2 million sales to break even' thing is true, sold over 33 million, so that one's probably a bad example. That game absolutely made them money.
How much money and effort went into developing something is irrelevant to its price. The price is purely a factor of maximizing copies sold times profit per copy. If the total profits are ultimately less than the costs the main reason is mismanagement, be it poor market research (and greenlighting a project that never had a chance of recuperating the costs invested), development costs not reflecting in quality to the extent that enough people consider it worth buying, poor marketting, or bad luck in the form of competition decreasing the value/cost ratio for customers or economic downturn reducing the number of potential customers, or likely some mix of the above.
Expecting people to spend more on something because you think that's what its worth when they have alternatives that make more sense to them is silly, and blaming customers for making decisions in their own interest is even more so.
Game prices are mainly driven by austere US politics that draw absurd tax margins from places like Walmart to display physical games on shelf space, just existing on that soil, and FTC would love to smoke out physical ownership altogether, so "downloading it" is cheaper because all the internet infrastructure is socilaized on the legacy of IBM and Bill Gates. They own, and you get to "license" with a EULA.
Digital is not cheaper, there's just hundreds of years of tradition of taking a cut from older distribution methods. Same reason Walmart can smoke out small stores with lower pricing, the digital economy can smoke out physical with unfair competition subsidized by Brave New world corporatist EXEMPTIONS, to what MAKES physical existence expensive.
When there's huge bottlenecks of one game getting big sales, thanks to progressive taxation you need that extra income from $70 games so you can pay premium to lightning fast RESTOCK all across the country. OR in the digital space to keep it from becoming a DDoS. You literally have to pay more SO THAT this one title can be "a bigger success" and there's less variety, more everyone has to play the same game.
I totally agree and think that supporting indie development is a very productive and progressive way to support gaming. If the price point off sets the desire to experience the new Zelda or Mario or even peach (totally agree with you there) then support the small teams that create with passion and inventiveness. But remember that they are not funding a r&d/ hardware development wing of their company.
Really wanna try hades but I want a physical copy.
The switch is a arm held not a hand held it doesny feat in youre pocket except mabeey the lite
Also the games are so expensive
nah i think the switch oled killed handheld gaming 😤😭😭😭
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are you talking about the nintento switch that completely revolutionized the video game industry, fundamentally changed the way we play video games, is about to surpass the playstation 2 and become the best selling video game system of all time, and not only singlehandedly saved nintendo from financial disaster, but actually made them the most successful they've ever been in their 100 year history? am asking for a confused friend
No one said the switch wasn’t good or wasn’t popular or selling. His point is the handheld games we used to get (like Pokemon, top down Zelda, Fire Emblem, Wario Ware, etc) feel inferior on the switch.
@@JadesOfGrey that is no reflection on the switch. it's just a reflection on those particular games, made at that particular time in history. those games weren't lacking because they were on the switch.
@@SuperGaknar they literally were though. If they had been made (like the previous games) specifically for a handheld like the 3ds, they would have been smaller, cheaper, geared towards portable play sessions, and a literal quirky. Once the handheld team got disolved into the console team, it basically became one large team who just focused on larger console type games. Pokemon went open world, which made it run like ass. The GameFreak team wasn’t used to making such elaborate 3d games after being on the ds and 3ds for so long. And games like Luigi’s Mansion Dark Moon which sent you back to a hub after each mission (to make short portable sessions easier) was turned into a full open world for Luigi’s Mansion 3. Games like Wario Ware that used to be creative because they used a new gimmick (Twisted and Touched) became boring games with no gimmick on the switch. Etc etc etc
@@JadesOfGrey you are literally describing shortcomings of developers, not of the switch platform itself. you have no idea if game freak would have been able to develop a better pokemon game for a next gen standalone handheld. i'm playing luigi's mansion 3 right now, completely in handheld mode, and the lack of a hub world doesn't draw back anything from this game (the ability to sleep and restore the system pretty much makes the need for a hub world obsolete). the bottom line is the switch completely revolutionized when, where, and how we play both our portable and home based video games, and it's come up with a solution that's far superior to anything we had in the past. for the people that don't understand this, i don't know what to tell you. it's like you are trolling, or living in denial. or maybe you just don't understand the history of the video game industry or the way people want to play video games.
@@SuperGaknar again, no one is saying that all the switch games are bad. Luigi’s Mansion 3 is probably the best entry in the series. But that’s because it wasn’t meant to be a portable game. The first one was on GameCube. But the smaller developers that used to ONLY make handheld games, (like GameFreak) clearly had to make changes to make their games larger scale and didn’t really know what they were doing. That’s why the Pokemon games on switch all suck. They’re used to developing for handhelds only. And you’re saying it’s the developers, not the switch. Well yes, it’s the developers inability to adapt to a home console vs the portables they were used to making games for. Also in some cases the games just lost their quirky charm. Nintendo has been playing it really safe this generation because they want to sell as many copies as possible. With the smaller portable games they used to take more risks. Wario Ware games used to be weird as hell, both in the mini games and how the game was actually played. The Wario Ware games on switch are very boring and by the numbers. So yes the switch is selling millions. It’s successful. But as someone who lived through the whole GameBoy, Ds, and 3ds generations I miss the charm those smaller games had.
Steam deck.
switch bad. handhelds never died.