Legion Pro 5i Ultimate Review! Best Value RTX 4070 Gaming Laptop? 20+ Game Benchmarks and Tests
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 พ.ค. 2024
- The Lenovo Legion Pro 5i is my most recommended RTX 4070 gaming laptop for the last 15 months or so, primarily the Lenovo Legion Pro 5i with the RTX 4070 and i7-13700HX. Today, we find out if its actually any good or not. We have got a huge lineup of games, benchmarks, and unboxing tests to to do! Thanks to Lenovo for sponsoring this episode (though I can still give all pros and cons of the product). If you decide to buy the Lenovo Legion Pro 5i, here's a link: go.magik.ly/ml/217iv/
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00:00 - Lenovo Legion Pro 5i Summary Review
00:13 - Specifications Overview - Legion Pro 5i
01:11 - Pros and Cons Quick Look - Legion Pro 5i
01:55 - Sponsorship Thanks - Legion Pro 5i
02:45 - Unboxing Experience and AC Adapter - Legion Pro 5i
03:33 - Quality Control and Flex Test - Legion Pro 5i
04:16 - Trackpad Impressions - Legion Pro 5i
04:40 - Keyboard Impressions - Legion Pro 5i
05:00 - Removing the Bottom Panel and Interior Overview - Legion Pro 5i
05:36 - Speaker Test and Impressions - Legion Pro 5i
06:13 - Webcam Test and Examples - Legion Pro 5i
06:36 - Display Testing Results - Legion Pro 5i
07:45 - Lenovo Vantage and Spectrum RGB Controls and Quick Look
09:06 - Fan Noise and Performance Profiles Review - Legion Pro 5i
11:26 - AIDA64 and CrystalDiskMark Test Results - Legion Pro 5i
12:02 - Cinebench R23 Benchmarks (i7-13700HX) - Legion Pro 5i
13:17 - Time Spy Benchmark (i7-13700HX, 4070) - Legion Pro 5i
14:17 - Apex Legends Gameplay Review - Legion Pro 5i
14:46 - Helldivers 2 Gameplay Review - Legion Pro 5i
15:13 - Display Ghosting Test and Impressions - Legion Pro 5i
15:31 - Illuvium Gameplay Review - Legion Pro 5i
15:58 - God of War Gameplay Review - Legion Pro 5i
16:14 - Cyberpunk 2077 Gameplay Review - Legion Pro 5i
16:46 - Overall Gameplay Impressions - Legion Pro 5i
17:30 - Dead Space Gameplay Review - Legion Pro 5i
17:49 - Starfield Gameplay Review - Legion Pro 5i
18:28 - Baldur's Gate 3 Gameplay Review - Legion Pro 5i
18:52 - The Witcher 3 Gameplay Review - Legion Pro 5i
19:47 - Overall Recommendation - Legion Pro 5i - เกม
just wish 4070 was 10gb instead of same memory as 4060... with more power they could add 2gb memory also to prevent any bottlenecks
It's not bottleneck if it's only 1080p lol. 1440p there's some
If that happens, they cant sell their next generation of laptops
It is NVIDIAs price politics. They push you to buy the more expensive options. I have an older Legion 5 with the AMD 4600h and RTX 2060 refresh (115W not 90W). And the 4060 was not an option for a new laptop. The 25% performance difference is just sad (I am not a big fan of DLSS or FG, just looks ugly no matter what anybody says). It may make sense to buy the 4070 with the around 50% performance bump. But the price is not there and the VRAM is just too small for 1440p or higher. Too expensive in comparison with the 4060. Than there is the 4080, which is literally 75% faster than the 4060 and around 43% faster than the 4070. And the 4080 is on average 8% slower than the 4090. So the obvious push by NVIDIA in the higher mid or high tier, is the 4080. If you buy a laptop for work and gaming, and buy one every 4-5 years, the investment makes sense. If you buy only to play games, it makes no sense...if you don´t ooze money. Laptops got expensive in the last two years. And the performance gap between mid and higher tier is big performance and price wise. I bought the Legion 950€ back in 2021 which was a steal. Bought the G16 with the i9 13980HX and 4080 a week ago for 2459€. Expensive, but it is a beast for my work, no need for a desktop. And rips thru games like butter without DLSS and FG. Maybe it is better to wait for the next gen Intel, AMD or NVIDIA offerings. But I don´t think NVIDIA will change it´s price politics, if they are not pushed to the wall by competition on the market.
No future proof
@@858Markussince I am gonna play only valorant and do intermediate 3d VFX rendering, so 4070 8 GB and i9 14900HX will be a decent choice for exactly $2000?
could you please review the Acer Predator triton 14??, it has very similar specs with this laptop but there´s no good reviews on youtube.
Thank you for mentioning that the speakers are bad. They have so little base but they are really loud. The best base I've heard so far is from Asus laptops, I've heard base from the Asus TUF series and they are very good and the TUF series are the cheaper laptops from Asus. Lenovo should really put high quality speakers with good base in their PRO series laptops. The Harman Kardon speakers in the PRO 7 are very good tho, better than what I've heard from Asus TUF series, kinda sad they didn't put Harman Kardon speakers in the PRO 5 series :(
I agree. Speakers are something laptop companies have ignored for so long now. Though I guess you can just connect a couple of Bluetooth stereo speakers, which will improve your sound experience manifold.
Best I've heard are the ones with dedicated subs which include a few MSI, Asus TUF and Dell. The rest are hollow, tiny and feels like shrapnel to my ears. Otherwise, I just use external speakers.
I wonder if the Harman Kardon speakers in the Pro 7 would fit into the Pro 5? The Pro 5 speakers make my ears bleed.
They should fit, I opened the pro 5i and there was no reason to put tinier speakers than the pro 7i other than to keep the price lower. @@stevejackson4340
Is this model worthy for buying but with the Ryzen 7 7745HX cpu platform?
can you tell how this laptop's i7 13700HX can pull like 140W throughout but my alienware m16 r1 with proper thermal paste can do only like 110 with Undervolt?
Can you do a review on the slim 5 gen 9 please 🥺
3:37. Only the top of the lid is metal the rest is HQ plastic. Plastic is great for heat dissipation
Please do a review of lenevo loq i5 13450hx / Ryzen 7 8845hs , Rtx 4060 , 1440p display
I just ordered it lets see
How’s the battery life compared to G14 2023
Can someone help would you recommend Alienware M16 Ultra 7/ RTX 4070 or Legion Pro 13th Gen i7/ Rtx 4070?
How do you test those displays? Because it says 500 nits for 240hz display and you get 350nits?are you not using full brightness for testing? Thx😊
Or he's unknowingly reviewing the 300 nits option.
Which one would you recommend? Lenovo Pro 5i: Intel Core i5-14500HX, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 8GB GDDR6 Display: 16" WQXGA (2560 x 1600), IPS, anti-glare, non-touch, HDR 400, 100% sRGB, 500 nits, 240 Hz.
Asus Rog Strix G16: Intel Core i9 13980HX, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Screen: Full HD (1920x1080) 165Hz.
I bought the ryzen 7 7745hx version with the rtx 4070. The RAM is 16gb 5600mhz but it runs at only 2600mhz. There's no option in BIOS to enable xmp profile as well. Any idea how to change that?
There is enhanced memory ig that's the one....
Acer - Predator Helios 16- 16" 240Hz Gaming 4080 is on sale for 1599 would that be better than this ?
Dude..... of course. A 4080 laptop for 1600 USD is a STEAL. Get it, the 4080 demolishes the laptop 4070 in every possible way.
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I will ask for 3rd time i hope u can answer . Pls how u can get good gpu wattage+130 w in games with 4070 laptop . I have one and only got that on f1 2018 . In others no more than 110w
I have got also a rtx 4070 and it draws 136ish watts in Cyberpunk on 1200p with ray tracing ultra, no dlss and no frame generation on. So in very gpu-bounded scenarios it can boost up to nearly 140 watts. Asus rog strix g16 with i7 13650hx here. I overclocked my rtx 4070 to 2670-2685-2700 (+250/265/275 OC) mhz and memory to 9000mhz (+1000 OC memory) with MSI Afterburner.
@@JohnnieTheRabbit-ro1jh ok bro i have it with ryzen 7 7745hx . And only in f1 and AC unity with OC 200core 400memory can draw + 125 w but even in red dead 2 3820×2400 cant go more than 113w
You will only reach 130w when dynamic boost gets activated. The highest it will go without dynamic boost is 110 watts :)
I talk about this in the full livestream, but I will try to answer in more detail here. Typically, a 4070 laptop won't pull the full 140W. To encourage more GPU wattage, you need a GPU bound scenario where the GPU is being used 100% (no cpu/memory bottlenecking). Also, you likely won't see much additional performance beyond the 110-115W range. To encourage more performance and wattage utilization, I'd recommend running the laptop in the max performance fan profiles with highest possible power limits being raised. Then you also want to add a GPU overclock of 150-250 core / 200-400 memory. With the additional clockspeed, it might pull slightly higher wattage.
The reason you don't really need to go beyond 115W is that the GPU just doesn't have that many cuda cores and typically reaching near peak performance at 115W. Adding additional power does not add much additional performance. But it will add more power if you also overclock it so the additional wattage can contribute to something meaningful, rather than just being meaningless heat.
That said, you likely can run the overclock even at 115W and just be more power efficient with high performance. This will vary by silicon lottery though, as some will not be as stable with their power efficiency.
@@jay_2258 im activating dynamic boost in custom mod since 9 months
Who is the best in terms of games?
Lenovo Legion Pro 5 16IRX8 16" WQXGA 240H Laptop - Core i7- 13700HX - 32GB RAM - 1TB SSD - RTX 4070 8GB-DOS
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Acer Predator Helios Neo 16 Gaming Laptop- 16" WQXGA QHD 165Hz IPS Display- Core i9- 13900HX- 16GB RAM- 1TB SSD- NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 8GB- DOS- Black
The Lenovo has better cooling and is really quiet while gaming. The acer has a better processor tho so you might get 3 or 5 more fps in certain games. Both have HX processors so both are good in my eyes. I would choose the Lenovo because more ram, better screen and has HDR support, higher refresh rate and good customer support.
Can you test it in unreal engine 5 pleaseee
I don't think this model has the advertised 500 nits display.... Your results are even less than 400 nits.
You probably have the 165 hz display...
Please help me out sir
Correct! The model I had was the 300 nits! But you can get the 500 nits model
@@GizmoSlipTech thank you but is it possible to add a quick disclaimer on your video about the display please???
@@princemensah3590 I agree. It had me confused until I saw the comment.
Yes the 500 nits model comes with the 240hz screen, I have the 500 nits model fully specced out and it is very bright.
@@jay_2258 is it worth it over the 165hz one??
would you say that paying 200euros / 220usd extra to get a 4070 instead of 4060 is worth it?
About 13-15% more performance, so should cost 15% more, at most, ideally
I would say no, just get a 4080 model then instead of the 4070.
@@jay_2258 That would increase the price by 1000eur/1100usd :/
@@jay_2258 did just this. Thanks
Where would you say is the VR sweet spot with laptop GPUs for this 4000 series? Have you personally tried anything with the UEVR mod? Do you think VR is too high end for the 4070 and only 8G of VRAM?
Definitely not. My 3070ti laptop runs just about everything on ultra using my quest 2 tethered. And likely for quest 3, just don’t have that yet.
It will vary a lot from game to game, and headset to headset, but for most VR games, a 4070 can perform well enough for Quest 3 resolution experiences. Just not in the highest demanding games is all…
@@GizmoSlipTech Thanks, I do appreciate that. I am having to get more portable and will have to go from a desktop to a laptop. I am loving using the Quest 3 for Immersed and am looking forward to the day I actually get a play though of Cyberpunk 2077 using a VR mod - but there are so many games these days pushing the boundaries for just the flat screen, let alone the overhead for VR mod gaming. I am hoping the frame generation of the 4000 series will help on the mod side even if it does not have support for regular PCVR games, but the best of those were created for previous generation hardware anyways
@@daspotjoel Thanks! I hope you are able to upgrade to the 3 soon. If you enjoy your Quest 2, I find that the pancake optics on the 3 are really game changing, and then you have the more powerful processor and colour pass through (which I never thought I would use, but in reality use all the time)
If I were to ask what is the most demanding PCVR experience you play? I used to run into thermal throttling issues on a laptop running Elite Dangerous, although these days I am really looking at the modded titles - and I am especially looking forward to a play of Cyberpunk 2077 (mind you, more than playing the game is just exploring Night City in VR)
I'm thinking about returning my acer helios 18, not that it's bad...in fact that mini led is pure awesome to say the least, over 1000nits. It's because new 5000 series laptops are supposed to be out by end of 2024 or beginning 2025. Way better cpu's and gpus. I'll just stick to my desktop until then, for portable gaming I'll just buy a console until then.
Despite the hundreds of sponsored Windows reviews, the sensible thing in 2024 is to not upgrade as both AMD & Intel 14 gen are sideways upgrades, and the new Core Ultra are basically beta chips that offer slightly better efficiency, a better iGPU, but generally, performance is not as good as 13 gen.
@andyH_England this is my first laptop, can't say it's been a great experience compared to desktop. But I bought it so that I can take games on the road. I just know I would regret my purchase if more powerful hardware comes out in 6-8 months down the road.
@@Amp_Editionthere's always better tech coming in the future. Get what you want right now and make peace..
hyee, i like to games but have a limited budget🤣 , and i cant decide between rog strix g16 i9 14900HX 4060 and legion pro 5i i9 14900HX 4070, rog using 1920 x 1200 and legion using 2560 x 1600, but i see a lot of comment on review videos saying that 4070 cant handle well 2560 x1200 screen? so what do u think?
sorry for my bad english🥲
or should i buy rog strix g16 2023, i7 13650HX 4070 and use 1920 x 1200 screen? i dont know actually which one is better for gaming
Both are great. I like legion a tad bit more.
You could always just get the Legion, and downscale the resolution from 2560 x 1200 to 1980 x 1200 for certain games or globally in display settings
I have a asus tuf a15... with 4060.. you can play all games with ultra 😎
Yeah, but at what resolution and fps :D
Why spend a extra 400 dollars on the rtx 4070 laptop, just go for the rtx 4060, way better value.
The 4070 version when I ordered this unit was only like $150 more
Well in that case it's worth it for sure. Thanks for all your videos.
The difference is low 200$ right now and decreasing but I overall agree with you. However, the 4070 runs cooler and gives a small amount of extra headroom for games as they get more demanding compared to the 4060.
@@bottlesmashnugnug7753 ya but both are 8gb vram too. 4070 not worth it. 4060 all day long.
Extra 200 usd would never hurt
Where i live the diff btw 4060 and 4070 laptop is 200 usd but diff btw a 4070 and 4080 laptop is 1300-1400 usd
So I m forced to go with 4070 💔 @@bottlesmashnugnug7753
COOL
8gb is a joke. Thanks Jvidia
DDR5 4800 is just worst. I wish LPCAMM must become standard.
LPCAMM2 has its own issues. From what I have heard is that if you buy a 16GB version, you cannot add another 16GB; you have to buy a 32GB module which screws in to replace the 16GB module. That defeats the purpose of upgradeable RAM. With RAM now being one of the least likely components to break before 10 years, you do not have to worry about RAM breaking. So soldered RAM is the way forward; Intel, Apple and even AMD understand this now. LPCAMM will have faster RAM than the current non-soldered RAM but will likely trail behind the much cheaper soldered. Maybe LPCAMM will be for high-end laptops and desktops? Too expensive for no real advantage so I am not sure we will see these in many laptops in the medium term.
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this dude talks too much. just watch the youtube channel the relaxing end
Then why are you watching this video?
What a way to promote your channel 😅
I know third comment LENOVO please send a LEGION PRO7 with 14900HX and RTX 4090 we need a review we need Gizmo to review it
Planning to buy rog strix g18 2024 model what you say is it worth it ? @gizmosliptech