I had this laptop and returned it for the 2024 Blade 18. I couldn’t stand not having gsync and the blade 18 has the best panel in the world right now with the 300hz 2560x1600 mini led with gsync. My tool measured it peaking at 1300 nits in dgpu mode with hdr !
I've always found MSI lacking. They have always felt cheap to me even if sometimes commanding one of the highest prices for a desk top replacement class laptop. Razer has been my go to aside for 2023 when I switched to a pro-art for work stuff but as soon as they released the oled razer 16 I picked one up. wish they would release a 4k oled razer 18 tho
You bought this thing?? I mean.. if you're so rich you HAVE TO try and give some of your assets away (for tax purposes, of course..)..??..I GOT YOU!! my address is..... 😂😂 Good call returning it though...I mean hiding assets from the gov is one thing... But buying this..??.. now that's a bridge too far 😂
@@boost91 I mean it's a pretty good laptop. The problem is in MSI's marketing. It's definitely slightly overpriced though for sure. MSI definitely shouldn't be marketing this as a gaming laptop first. They need to market it as just being able to do literally everything you throw at it well without compromise because that's what it does. It's literally the only laptop out right now that can be used for virtual machines and servers due to it's expandable ram and storage slots, it has a 4k screen like the Blade, but it has a much higher ppi which is essential for content creation. It's the only mini led 4k panel out too. Razer still isn'y offering it in their 4k 2024 blade only the qhd 300hz blade. Literally is the brightest laptop screen you'll find on a laptop right now. Thing is fucking blinding lmao. Also while being able to game. Yeah lack of gsync sucks for some people, but I honestly think gsync is overrated and not as big a deal as people make it. Should it exist on a laptop at this price though? Oh yeah absolutely. 😂 It also has better thermals than the Blade by far. Blade year to year is one of the worst performing laptops if not the worst consistently and also suffers battery bloating at a higher margin than other laptops. Literally only advantage of the Blade right now is it's more portable and it has thunderbolt 5. I only compare it to the Blade because for what these two laptops are meant for given their IO (SD card reader slot for example) they're the only two laptops that you can choose from. Sure the Alienware m18 exists with a SD card reader slot but you can't get that laptop in 4k which is essential for content creation so it doesn't even compete. The Titan is just not a gaming laptop like they're marketing it to be. I had the laptop but I returned it basically because my current laptop does what I need it to do. So I returned it because of the price point. If it was like $800-$1k cheaper definitely would've kept it.
The 2013 model was on my short list with the SCAR 18 but I got the AW M18R1 instead maxed out for $2800 on sale. The screen isn't on par as the rest but is good enough, but performance is on par for 800+ and double that for the MSI. Still happy with the AW a yr later. Still, a Titan is a dream machine.
There are a couple of issues I see - no G-Sync and Advanced Optimus, as you noted is a big letdown. Otherwise this is the fastest gaming laptop of this generation. Another is that the speakers should be as good as the Asus G16 or Apple Macbrook Pro 16 at this price point. They are loud, but the audio quality is lacking for sure. I wish they would have adopted the LPCAMM memory standard. it would resolve the slow SO-DIMM with 4 slots populated (that's a limitation of the SO-DIMM standard). Finally, I don't understand why not all keys are mechanic. They used regular keys for the Numpad. Why cut costs on a laptop at this price point?
I love the look of this laptop, but why have they put a 4k display on this thing! Idiots, did nobody tell them a laptop 4080/4090 isnt the same as a desktop version. 4k display on an 18inch is beyond stupid. Heavy use if dlss will be needed to play big aaa games at high/ultra settings
If they can sell more than a dozen of these... I'm shocked!! Gizmo telling you not to but .. Without ACTUALLY saying it...i hear you tho... Can't afford this mug anyways... Bill Gates can't afford it 😂😂
@@slymmfitzycif you're buying this it's not so much disposable income... You're trying to hide funds transfer from the feds or something...(Kind of like the "modern art" program)...🤫
You could buy at least 3 or 4 new ASUS ROG Strix S16s/S18s or at least 2 new ROG ASUS ROG Strix 16/18 Scar laptops for one MSI HX 18 laptop. No matter how great the specs are, if I had to choose between an ASUS ROG Strix/ASUS ROG SCAR vs. MSI Titan 18, I'd go with ASUS
I'm not buying another MSI laptop until they start supporting Gsync again. I switched to the Asus Strix Scar 16 (2023, 4090), which does support Gsync with it's 1000 nit 240hz 2k mini-LED screen. It's been my main driver for more than a year, and I love it. I do miss the mechanical keyboard, the larger screen, and the thick feeling of my old MSI Titan (9980HK, 2080 mobile, 4k 60hz), but the lack of Gsync support really killed the gaming experience. If anything, I would upgrade to the 2024 Scar 18 for the 18" screen with the same specs, and that's it. I've never been impressed with Razer's products, which includes their mice and keyboards. Their accessories always break prematurely. If they don't get that right, then how could I trust their laptop manufacturing process?
I will never buy another MSI again. Paid 2600.00 for a MSI GT TITAN 75 in 2018 and the camera never worked, touchpad was trash and unusable, keys chipped and broke randomly, the battery sucked which I was ok with, but overall for 2600.00 I should not have had any of those problems.
Excellent Ultimate review summarising everything about this laptop I was wondering if you would check out the HP fury Zbook G10 it has a 4k OLED screen 4 2280 ssd slots 4 ram slots good thermals in a 16 inch laptop with good ports as well!
For me it just wasnt worth it - i tested it but the display for me was a no-go! I did enjoy the higher TDP for the CPU but the tradeoffs werent worth it - it was too loud - the speakers sucked and i personally do not like a 4k Screen with a 4090 Laptop. The Keyboard was nice but for some reason very tin like sounds when i pressed them. I was never able to get more than 4000mhz with however many ram sticks except for my standart 32GB which were at 5200... now with the Blade 18 i have 64GB with 5600mhz - so i dont think this is an intel problem... In the end I decided to get the new Razer Blade 18 with the MiniLED Screen and 300hz with GSync :D Best decision - performance is really not that big of a difference and its just way more portable :)
I too went the same route. I tested the 2024 Titan 18, 2024 Scar 18, 2024 Blade 18 and 2023 Alienware m18 r1 AMD edition and I went with the Blade 18 mainly because it just wasn't the best at one thing and played the middle ground and was still a bit cheaper than the Titan. Although the 2023 Alienware m18 r1 AMD Edition was the actual winner when testing all laptops against each other. The Blade 18 was just more suited for something I will like to use for the next year.
If you're doing literally only gaming yeah sure. Those are the obvious choices and way better price point. This laptop is made more for those that are doing gaming and content creation. That's why it has a higher resolution screen, consideraly higher ppi than the strix scar 18 and has a SD card reader slot and more upgradeable ram and storage slots. It's a laptop that is basically content creation first
I want a rog duo 16 with an rtx 5090, I'm excited for your review. It'll probably come out next year I'll just get a cheap apu laptop until then. Flow x13 probably?
No G sync on a $5k laptop is wild
Yeah you sad the truth brother because with higher resolution like that must have gsync
I had this laptop and returned it for the 2024 Blade 18. I couldn’t stand not having gsync and the blade 18 has the best panel in the world right now with the 300hz 2560x1600 mini led with gsync. My tool measured it peaking at 1300 nits in dgpu mode with hdr !
I've always found MSI lacking. They have always felt cheap to me even if sometimes commanding one of the highest prices for a desk top replacement class laptop. Razer has been my go to aside for 2023 when I switched to a pro-art for work stuff but as soon as they released the oled razer 16 I picked one up. wish they would release a 4k oled razer 18 tho
You bought this thing?? I mean.. if you're so rich you HAVE TO try and give some of your assets away (for tax purposes, of course..)..??..I GOT YOU!! my address is.....
😂😂
Good call returning it though...I mean hiding assets from the gov is one thing... But buying this..??.. now that's a bridge too far 😂
@@boost91 I mean it's a pretty good laptop. The problem is in MSI's marketing. It's definitely slightly overpriced though for sure. MSI definitely shouldn't be marketing this as a gaming laptop first. They need to market it as just being able to do literally everything you throw at it well without compromise because that's what it does.
It's literally the only laptop out right now that can be used for virtual machines and servers due to it's expandable ram and storage slots, it has a 4k screen like the Blade, but it has a much higher ppi which is essential for content creation. It's the only mini led 4k panel out too. Razer still isn'y offering it in their 4k 2024 blade only the qhd 300hz blade. Literally is the brightest laptop screen you'll find on a laptop right now. Thing is fucking blinding lmao.
Also while being able to game. Yeah lack of gsync sucks for some people, but I honestly think gsync is overrated and not as big a deal as people make it. Should it exist on a laptop at this price though? Oh yeah absolutely. 😂
It also has better thermals than the Blade by far. Blade year to year is one of the worst performing laptops if not the worst consistently and also suffers battery bloating at a higher margin than other laptops. Literally only advantage of the Blade right now is it's more portable and it has thunderbolt 5.
I only compare it to the Blade because for what these two laptops are meant for given their IO (SD card reader slot for example) they're the only two laptops that you can choose from. Sure the Alienware m18 exists with a SD card reader slot but you can't get that laptop in 4k which is essential for content creation so it doesn't even compete. The Titan is just not a gaming laptop like they're marketing it to be. I had the laptop but I returned it basically because my current laptop does what I need it to do. So I returned it because of the price point. If it was like $800-$1k cheaper definitely would've kept it.
gsync has flickering issues in menus and stuff, i wouldnt recommend it. native vsync always better if you have high fps
I did the same thing, but chose the 4k 2024 blade 18. couldnt be happier with my choice
you don't need to hold the laptop to your head and do military press with it lmao
that too for 30 minutes of the whole video 🤣🤣
@@wolfisraging man never gets a sore arm 💀
You don't need to tell the man how to run his YT channel... Unless you produce the show.... Do you??
@@boost91 Im just tryna help him mate, also you don't need to tell anybody what not to comment, you don't own the youtube... Do you??
@@wolfisraging 😂😂 touche sir
The 2013 model was on my short list with the SCAR 18 but I got the AW M18R1 instead maxed out for $2800 on sale. The screen isn't on par as the rest but is good enough, but performance is on par for 800+ and double that for the MSI. Still happy with the AW a yr later. Still, a Titan is a dream machine.
There are a couple of issues I see - no G-Sync and Advanced Optimus, as you noted is a big letdown. Otherwise this is the fastest gaming laptop of this generation.
Another is that the speakers should be as good as the Asus G16 or Apple Macbrook Pro 16 at this price point. They are loud, but the audio quality is lacking for sure.
I wish they would have adopted the LPCAMM memory standard. it would resolve the slow SO-DIMM with 4 slots populated (that's a limitation of the SO-DIMM standard).
Finally, I don't understand why not all keys are mechanic. They used regular keys for the Numpad. Why cut costs on a laptop at this price point?
No need of G-Sync since most games now control FPS. It consume unnecessary power.
g sync is crap anyway for input lag. Feels like jelly
It would be great to see the same review but for MSI Raider 18 and MSI Stealth 18, and comparison of all three
Is the price worth it? Do they do sales regularly?
I think the 2023 titan still the best in thermals
Guys what's the best laptop money can buy in 2024 that just has everything one needs and has g sync and a good monitor and good hardware?
Please review Razer Blade 18 with 4K display 😢
Only thing im interested of is power consuption but nothing!
I think the OG MSI GT77 Titan 17 looks better. Similar specs, and cheaper!
Just 120 hz is crazy
What refresh rate should you get on 4k laptop? But for 5k..??.. does seem low... But I'm not shopping for 5,500 laptop either...
no rbg is better but price insane
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I love the look of this laptop, but why have they put a 4k display on this thing! Idiots, did nobody tell them a laptop 4080/4090 isnt the same as a desktop version. 4k display on an 18inch is beyond stupid. Heavy use if dlss will be needed to play big aaa games at high/ultra settings
Gt77 titan , same performance, looks better, and cheaper!
If they can sell more than a dozen of these... I'm shocked!! Gizmo telling you not to but .. Without ACTUALLY saying it...i hear you tho... Can't afford this mug anyways... Bill Gates can't afford it 😂😂
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I wonder who actually buys this lol.
People that have disposable income of course...... For those just buying a new laptop; last year models are just as good and cheaper.
@@slymmfitzycif you're buying this it's not so much disposable income... You're trying to hide funds transfer from the feds or something...(Kind of like the "modern art" program)...🤫
You could buy at least 3 or 4 new ASUS ROG Strix S16s/S18s or at least 2 new ROG ASUS ROG Strix 16/18 Scar laptops for one MSI HX 18 laptop. No matter how great the specs are, if I had to choose between an ASUS ROG Strix/ASUS ROG SCAR vs. MSI Titan 18, I'd go with ASUS
5k laptop and you need DLSS quality 😂😂😂 5k microwave that gonna break after 2 years
I'm not buying another MSI laptop until they start supporting Gsync again. I switched to the Asus Strix Scar 16 (2023, 4090), which does support Gsync with it's 1000 nit 240hz 2k mini-LED screen. It's been my main driver for more than a year, and I love it.
I do miss the mechanical keyboard, the larger screen, and the thick feeling of my old MSI Titan (9980HK, 2080 mobile, 4k 60hz), but the lack of Gsync support really killed the gaming experience.
If anything, I would upgrade to the 2024 Scar 18 for the 18" screen with the same specs, and that's it.
I've never been impressed with Razer's products, which includes their mice and keyboards. Their accessories always break prematurely. If they don't get that right, then how could I trust their laptop manufacturing process?
No need of G-Sync since most games now control FPS. It consume unnecessary power.
I will never buy another MSI again. Paid 2600.00 for a MSI GT TITAN 75 in 2018 and the camera never worked, touchpad was trash and unusable, keys chipped and broke randomly, the battery sucked which I was ok with, but overall for 2600.00 I should not have had any of those problems.
No need of G-Sync since most games now control FPS. It consume unnecessary power.
Excellent Ultimate review summarising everything about this laptop I was wondering if you would check out the HP fury Zbook G10 it has a 4k OLED screen 4 2280 ssd slots 4 ram slots good thermals in a 16 inch laptop with good ports as well!
Kind of sounds like you just reviewed it...😂
@@boost91 no I do my research on the products I suggest and don’t waste peoples time thanks very much
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For me it just wasnt worth it - i tested it but the display for me was a no-go!
I did enjoy the higher TDP for the CPU but the tradeoffs werent worth it - it was too loud - the speakers sucked and i personally do not like a 4k Screen with a 4090 Laptop. The Keyboard was nice but for some reason very tin like sounds when i pressed them. I was never able to get more than 4000mhz with however many ram sticks except for my standart 32GB which were at 5200... now with the Blade 18 i have 64GB with 5600mhz - so i dont think this is an intel problem...
In the end I decided to get the new Razer Blade 18 with the MiniLED Screen and 300hz with GSync :D Best decision - performance is really not that big of a difference and its just way more portable :)
I too went the same route. I tested the 2024 Titan 18, 2024 Scar 18, 2024 Blade 18 and 2023 Alienware m18 r1 AMD edition and I went with the Blade 18 mainly because it just wasn't the best at one thing and played the middle ground and was still a bit cheaper than the Titan. Although the 2023 Alienware m18 r1 AMD Edition was the actual winner when testing all laptops against each other. The Blade 18 was just more suited for something I will like to use for the next year.
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Epic review. Authentic and credible. Brilliant!
no g sync no problem get one for me monitor g sync
hey gizmo can u make a rewiew for acer helios 18 rtx 4090 2024 version?if u cant what is ur opinion for the model?
Would rather buy scar strix 16 or if you want 18 in go with the scar 18 RTX 4090
If you're doing literally only gaming yeah sure. Those are the obvious choices and way better price point. This laptop is made more for those that are doing gaming and content creation. That's why it has a higher resolution screen, consideraly higher ppi than the strix scar 18 and has a SD card reader slot and more upgradeable ram and storage slots. It's a laptop that is basically content creation first
No, it's not
I want a rog duo 16 with an rtx 5090, I'm excited for your review. It'll probably come out next year I'll just get a cheap apu laptop until then. Flow x13 probably?
I can't wait to get mine with a 9090 duper super maxclock ultra supreme.
Yo gizmo, try to test star citizen on a laptop it will be interesting since the game is not optimized at all and is rly demanding! Love ur work 😉🔥