Defo make more Carthage vids. Their religion is interesting, as well as the Hannibal stuff. I wonder what the surprising things about Carthage could be?
I wish that I could wish that they could make an open world survival game where you can explore an entire 3D model of Carthage from the tallest tower to the deepest dungeon. However, if such a video game WAS ever made, we both know 2 things that will happen.
As a Tunisian, I'm gonna tell you how my people view Carthage: -The Carthaginian Political system, religion and wars against Rome are taught in schools at least in 4 grades. They depict Hannibal as a genius that was very close to defeating the romans -almost every Tunisian knows Hannibal; he, until recently, was on the 5 Tunisian Dinars banknote. Also, a very famous Tv station is called Hannibal. -The name "Carthage" is almost everywhere. The most famous attraction park in Tunisia is called Carthage Land, a close second is Hannibal Park.The biggest airport, festival and theatres are also called Carthage. -Parents generally don't name their children Hannibal or Elissa, but there is a football player on the national team and who also plays for Manchester Utd who's called Hannibal Mejbri Unfortunately, most Tunisians aren't very fond of History as I am and therefore don't realize the historical significance of many historical sites in Tunisia Edit1: What I wanna add after watching the video; -If you ask anyone in Tunisia "do you know who Dido is?" the answer is gonna be "No" 99% of the time. Tunisians and the tunisian education system calls the founder of Carthage Elissa or more accurately "عِلِّيسَى" (copy and paste in Google Translate to hear the pronunciation) as I mentioned before watching the video.
Same with Algeria, you can find some random shops or sportif club with the name numidia xD but I don’t think a lots of people ( except hardcore nationalists or historians) Know about massinissa or Juba II :( or even caesarea mauretania
I'm kind of interested in the history of Carthage before the Punic wars, usually whenever their empire is discussed it's in relation to their rivalry with Rome, but their empire had existed for centuries when Rome first became a problem for them.
Carthage was an outpost built by the Phoenicians, a maritime Levantine people, related to the Canaanites and the Israelites. When the Assyrians conquered the Levant, the Israelites and Phoenicians experienced a diaspora where they fled across the mediterranean. Carthage (New City) was one of those outposts.
@@dragonforks93 it's had updates. The 32nd update was on 25th July 2023 when the first art stage completed. Yes, its running slow, but its still into initial print proof territory and orders can still be placed.
Carthage is such an amazing topic to talk about. From their connection to the sea, through the commerce and all the way up to Hannibal. I recommend the album 'The Immortal Wars' by Ex Deo, a concept album about Hannibal
Great video, Metatron. Fascinating. I really enjoyed this episode. Thank you and the Patreons for your generosity, sharing this video with us, on your main channel. Really appreciate it the kind gesture. Have a good day, Metatron, and the same to everybody. Cheers.
Thank you for the wonderful video. For some reason there is a general lack of videos on the Phoenicians and Canaanites in general, so this was a very wonderful treat! Just bonus commentary from a Lebanese person 😊: -The Romans were losing until they realized how to achieve Phoenician maritime technology -The story of Aeneas meeting Elissar/Dido is really cool when looking at how Rome was doomed because of a curse from it's very conception - In Lebanon we still carry our ancestors stories of Dido and we actually call her Elissar (modern day Elishat) - This one is a nitpick so dont have to bother reading it lol, the Phoencians are the ancestors of the Lebanese, and we are very proud of our ancient civilization, so it would be nice have mentioned specifically which country they originated
Why does someone need to specifically mention your country in a video that isn't about your country? Can't you feel proud of your heritage without someone on social media causing it?
Actually it's pretty stunnig that rome was able to win the first punic war after they drowned there fleet two or three times because of a storm. They really wasn't good at the beginning at naval war😂😂😂
Ever since I came to TH-cam, it seems like most of the videos on the Canaanites are from Christian channels. So the point of view is quite hostile against them, to keep that brief. It is refreshing when I can find something from the point of view of professional historians, or "amateur scholars" as a few of us called it. I had some nice conversations back then with Walter Mattfeld on ancient Sumer way back then when he used the term "amateur scholar." It just meant laymen who were making honest attempts at researching the history and works by professional scholars (such as Samuel Noah Kramer), but I digress now. Mention Canaanites or Sumer in the search and you got a swarm of conspiracy theories, David Icke, Zecharia Sitchen, religious (Bible) fundamentalists, and other crazy goofy stuff like that... or the occasional satanist and luciferian stuff too.
I would love to learn more about Carthage! In your next video, please throw some light on its civilization, especially aspects of everyday life and its controversial religious practices. Congratulations, Metatron! 🎉
"...controversial religious practices" - translation: Infant sacrifice. That is not to say I know either way, whether they actually did or not. In 2010 a team out of U of Pittsburgh reportedly found that nearly 20% of the supposed sacrifices were children who died prenatally and were probably stillborn. Thus putting an end to the idea that these offerings had been overtly sacrificed. But then supposedly in 2014 they decided to ignore that evidence, because there would certainly be more stillbirths and perinatal deaths than would account for the few numbers of offerings found. It doesn't seem to consider that perhaps it was very expensive or limited to an elite/privileged class that could have their children considered an offering worthy of the gods' attention.
Great video! It is good to see Carthage receiving more atention and transmiting more information besides Hannibal and the punic wars. I'll be waiting for the next episodes.
That moment at 13:41 when i realized all the bible verses about squandering and burying your "talents" were actually about "Talentini", the silver currency..... Thank you Metatron, the channel is bringing my interpretation and appreciation of the bible in whole new perspective. A perspective ripe with context and literal translation.
@@Crimea_Riverphoenician cothon buildings make all ships within a friendly sea tile full heal in one turn, if the dromon cant kill a phonician ship in one turn it will just heal
IRL they had the best Navy in the Med. Dudes were going all over the Atlantic. And where the best traders. And if you really wanna spaz out. There is an amount of evidence greater than 0 showing them/their ancestors mining in North America. Which is how the bronze age was able to happen
This episode was INSANELY cool! It felt wordly and semi-mysterious with the smooth background music. Kudos to you Metatron on starting this series. I can't wait to see you delve even deeper into the Carthaginians, for they lasted much longer than we might've first assumed in ancient history.
Great video!! Just wanted to add to what you said about Greek influence. Don’t under estimate the cultural and military influence of Cyrene and Cyrenaica in general. Would love to see a video about this often forgotten and under looked Greek state btw! And of course, would love to see more about Carthage. -Laz
First it was the cathaginians, then it was the Egyptians, then it was the Levantine cultures, then it was Greece, shortly followed by Rome.. now we have entered the strange realm of not only the British, but the irish, Germans and even Nordic 'vikings' are now black. Clown World
It says something about the inferiority complex of the people trying to steal your history. Whats further humorous is that they call your history -ist and within 5 - 7 years are claiming its theirs.
@Darius-_ 'steal Egytpian glory' huh? European anthropologists you say? I'm not sure what you mean by 'European' or anything else you've said, but if I'm to assume my response is as follows: The realm we inhabit was thriving, high culture, high tech, high quality of life etc, then one day that stopped, in it's place was cataclysm Flintstones land. The realm carried on this way, until, a race of people who - by developing a post cataclysmic cultural custom of ceremonial banishment of all the young men - managed to spread throughout the navigable realm. All along the way they found primitive people, they mated with their women, creating hybrid races all over the place. The only people who can claim ancient Egytpian glory is the ancient Egytpians, however if the modern peoples closest related are allowed to have said 'glory, again.. whatever that means, than Europeans are those people. Those males I spoke of would've looked tall, grey/blue eyed, etc not anything else..
The video said the true, that Rome and Carthage had many immigrants and trader from diferents places. The were a minority and only stayed at the capital and trading places or as mercenaries.
New subscriber here. I just love your proper grammar and the fact that you made the effort to edit your own video and correct where you missed saying ‘have’ before saying ‘been’ was pretty great.
I have to say Metatron, you've done it again. Great video and I'm eagerly awaiting to watch the whole series. Some years ago Italian archaeologists stumbled onto and dug up the battlefield of Himera. I hope that you can do a series of videos on this topic.
This is a great and very informative video. Being a Hebrew speaker and hearing you say Malk which is too similar to Melech (מלך) and Shofet which is the same exact word, meaning, and pronunciation (שופט-judge). It's somewhat funny to hear how similar the two languages are.
The Golden Age of Solomon was the Age of Tyre and all the Canaanite languages. In the Assyrian Period Aramaic displaced all these, bar Punic and liturgical Hebrew: hence Ezekiel 28 laments Tyre as a former "guardian cherub...on the holy mount of God". Aristotle, c350BC, noted Carthaginians still called themselves Canaani (meaning the same as Greek 'Phoenician' - Purple People).
@@differous01 Thanks for the information I didn't know before. I knew Hebrew was a Phoenician-based language that was later mixed with Aramic, but I didn't understand how similar the languages really were. Also, it's quite interesting Carthaginians called themselves Canaani. Because of their historical connection to Rome, I tend to forget how close they were and that they are among the Canaanite people.
Worth noting that "Malka" in Hebrew means queen. close resemblance to the Carthaginian word for their highest office, "Malk". Also as you said, it was founded by a woman. If we believe the origin story in any capacity, there could be a relation here. Also, "shofet" means judge in Hebrew too. Interesting video!
MLK (without vowels) means “king” in Canaanite, the ancestral language of Hebrew and Phoenician (Punic is just a late dialect of Phoenician). If you know how to read Biblical Hebrew, it is not difficult to read Phoenician and Punic. (Prob. about the same of Spanish and Italian at most, if not closer.)
Thank you so much for making a video about Carthage. Yet, I have a few points to it. Aristotle writes that the Court of 104 was actually independent body from the senate. One of the works of the court 104 was for example judging unsuccesful military commanders in chief (which was a independent position - Rab Mahanet). Another point I have is that Polybios of Megalopolis writes that Romans really started considering taking over Sicily after the succesfull Siege of Agrigentum. Romans also (from what I ever found) never said no to Mamertines. They dedlocked the senate on this matter form quite a while. Carthaginians also, while being a garison in Messana, neogatiated peace between the Mamertines and Syracuse. Situation changed, when Romans finally agreed to help Mamertines. Mamertines expelled carthaginian garison, invited the Romans, Carthage allied with Syracuse.....and war started. Thank you for mentioning the treaties between Carthage and Rome (last being struck 8 years before the First Punic War). This is often overlooked aspect of Cartho-Roman relationship. Thank you so much for making this video.
Hiya Metatron sir!!!! I am unsure whether you've done it, but can we get a video on the ancient Gauls and their struggles with the SPQR? I'll forever be a teensy bit mad about how they treated tribal people in the vicinity of Rome. Thank you and much love!!!!
I'd love a video about your favourite games that have to do with history. You could explain what is and isn't accurate and what you do or don't like about the game. :)
We all know where this is heading, the impossible journey of Hannibal across the alps with his war elephants, being one of the craziest military endeavors of the ancient world, along with Alexander the Greats venture East and the Romans attempted conquest of North Britannia!!! But very interesting to hear about the founding of Carthage, something all to often skipped over. Eagar to hear more in this series, eventually ending with Hannibals story!! Which may in turn prompt a series about Alexander the Great and his campaign into the Middle East and beyond...
Older brother: This is my kingdom now. Go play with your dolls or something. Sister: *Founds Carthage* Older brother: ....Well done, sis. I didn't expect that...
Does Metatron do live streams? I'd love to see him discuss with other historians! If I may be so bold, I'd love to see a discussion with Shakkah Ahmose and Metatron on ancient Kemet and lost historical texts! God speed Metatron Hotep and build!
Yes, I vote for making even a 13th episode about Carthage. Quite an interesting topic and it would be great to hear more about this civilisation and other ancient civilisations.
First time I learned about Carthage as a whole--not just about Hannibal--was also when I realized just how potent the Roman propaganda machine was. Anything that had at least a small grain of truth to it was stretched out and twisted to make the Carthaginians look as bad as possible. They need more recognition. Much more.
As always, great video! I would love more videos on Carthage in general. Perhaps the Punic wars from the perspective of Carthage? Most videos I have seen covering it focuses mostly on the roman "reaction" (for a lac of a better word) to the conflict.
Glad to see some content about Carthage here. Here in Tunisia, we value and love our history. I love the naming trend we Tunisians are doing now. Some name their babies Hannibal these days, we even have someone naming his son Julius Caesar lol. My friend has a son named Ares, that Macedonian-Carthaginian alliance back then made a lasting impact on something i guess.
Carthage has always fascinated me. Unlike Hellenic powers that gave up after 1, 2 or even 3 battles against Rome, the Punics were able to stand toe to toe against Rome in it's youthful prime, and pump out just as many men as Rome did into the meat grinder. This is not even including the Mediterranean's greatest General, Hannibal Barca who is just as interesting and just as great as Alexander the Great. Go team Carthage, the only true rival to the Roman Republic!
@@jmgonzales7701 Considering China wasn't unified at the time, just a collection of small states that were constantly warring amongst each other, I highly doubt it
Don't be so sure on that. Rome wasn't unified either as it had not yet conquered Sicily, Carthage, or Greece during this time. A good comparable strength for China to Rome would be State of Qin, which ended up unifying all of China, just as Rome had with all of the Mediterranean. During the Qin conquest of Zhao, the Qin were able to muster a force of 550,000 soldiers into their ranks and were able to defeat a Zhao army of 450,000 at the battle of Changping in 260 B.C. These numbers are huge, but also keep in mind that China holds a very large area of Earth, the states of Qin and Zhao, although small compared to the rest of China, were still huge, wealthy, and powerful enough to expel external threats. I am not going to say who will win, but I can say both the Qin and Roman Republic were very capable people in terms of logistics, warfare, and adaptation. @@filmandfirearms
Great to see you covering Carthage! More yes please! I think you'll find it was more Spanish & Gallic mercenaries that were used as "cannon fodder"(they even shafted them of wages after losing the 1st Punic war & had to put them down in a major rebellion) & the Liby-Phonecian heavy infantry were some of their best. Amused you said they gave up the Aspis for a "flat" shield(More like a Theros or Scutum) but illustrate that with a curved Scutum. I first read of the Carthaginians by reading a library book in my teens in the 1970's("Carthage must die" I think in was called). The exploits of their traders & explorers are amazing. Also had a DBM wargame 1st Punic war 15mm Carthaginian army for some years until I had to sell it to help fund a flat move.
Metatron! perhaps a tech glitch, the audio seems slightly out of synchronisation with the video when you speak. These things happen! :) Could also be a TH-cam app problem not a small editing glitch.
You should consider a video on Greek and Roman geographic terms. "Libya" in antiquity would have been all of Africa west of the Nile, for example, and Berbers would have been called Libyans. "Ethiopia" was sub-Sarahan African. I recently discovered that "Sudan" in antiquity would have referred to that part of Africa that today extends from modern day Guinea to Cameroon, thus is off by thousands of miles from the modern day country of Sudan. It's fascinating how the ancient Greeks and Romans used words for Africa which we still use today, but use in notably different ways. But what else is there? Those are the only three I know of, but I would expect there must be more.
Those Carthaginians are lucky the Metatron wasn’t around back then doing what he does best: clapping historical cheeks!!!!! You’re numero uno in human history Metatron!!!!!
Really enjoyed this episode, thank you Metatron. I find it rather ironical that in myth Dido and Aeneas were lovers, but in history their countries became rivals. Did Dido's peoples never forgive Aeneas for leaving her? ;)
You probably know this, but it's worth mentioning that the Punic word _sufet_ is the same word as the _shophetim_ of the Bible, the Judges like Samson, Gideon, and Deborah. As you said, Punic was very closely related to ancient Hebrew.
Noble one! A million thank you’s for this episode. I am reading the book on Carthage called, Carthage Must Be Destroyed by Richard Miles, published in 2011. Highly recommend. The chapter I am reading is called, In The Footsteps Of Heracles, going now through the subchapter, The Battle Of Cannes. I was watching one of your videos and you said the word Carthage in that video and I thought to myself that it would be nice if you had done a video on that ancient city. Lo and behold, I saw in a front page on TH-cam that you had just completed one. The Fates work in mysterious ways. Please do make more videos on this.
Dodanim was a son of Javan. Another son is Elisha. Javan is the Ancestor of the Mediterranean sea people. The other sons and civilizations are Tarshish in Iberia and Kittim in Cypress.
By the end of the 2nd Punic war, Hannibal had killed proportionally as many Roman adult males as Nazi Germany did the Soviets in WW2, around 1 in every 6, just a staggering sum.
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Next time, the besentine empire
Defo make more Carthage vids. Their religion is interesting, as well as the Hannibal stuff. I wonder what the surprising things about Carthage could be?
can you talk about ancient isreal
How often do you think about the Roman Empire
Wasn't Elishat a priestess' title rather, instead of an actual name? I once met such an interpretation.
Carthage(Qart Hadasht) is one of my favourite less publicly examined civilisations. They deserve more time in the spotlight.
Same goes for the Hittites.
@@huskyfaninmass1042Agreed!
I wish that I could wish that they could make an open world survival game where you can explore an entire 3D model of Carthage from the tallest tower to the deepest dungeon.
However, if such a video game WAS ever made, we both know 2 things that will happen.
@@huskyfaninmass1042 Gozer the Gozerian would concur.
Sure but
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Cartago delanda est.
It's just historical fact. Sorry not sorry.
As a Tunisian, I'm gonna tell you how my people view Carthage:
-The Carthaginian Political system, religion and wars against Rome are taught in schools at least in 4 grades. They depict Hannibal as a genius that was very close to defeating the romans
-almost every Tunisian knows Hannibal; he, until recently, was on the 5 Tunisian Dinars banknote. Also, a very famous Tv station is called Hannibal.
-The name "Carthage" is almost everywhere. The most famous attraction park in Tunisia is called Carthage Land, a close second is Hannibal Park.The biggest airport, festival and theatres are also called Carthage.
-Parents generally don't name their children Hannibal or Elissa, but there is a football player on the national team and who also plays for Manchester Utd who's called Hannibal Mejbri
Unfortunately, most Tunisians aren't very fond of History as I am and therefore don't realize the historical significance of many historical sites in Tunisia
Edit1: What I wanna add after watching the video;
-If you ask anyone in Tunisia "do you know who Dido is?" the answer is gonna be "No" 99% of the time. Tunisians and the tunisian education system calls the founder of Carthage Elissa or more accurately "عِلِّيسَى" (copy and paste in Google Translate to hear the pronunciation) as I mentioned before watching the video.
That’s pretty cool
I want one, 5 Tunisian Dinars banknote with Hanibal on.
Cool
they're still in circulation but are not being printed anymore. Sadly, they replaced Hannibal with a man most Tunisians don't know.@@MFC343
Same with Algeria, you can find some random shops or sportif club with the name numidia xD but I don’t think a lots of people ( except hardcore nationalists or historians) Know about massinissa or Juba II :( or even caesarea mauretania
I'm kind of interested in the history of Carthage before the Punic wars, usually whenever their empire is discussed it's in relation to their rivalry with Rome, but their empire had existed for centuries when Rome first became a problem for them.
It all began with a woman named Dido and a bloke called Aeneas...
@@gre8 Only problem with that is that Aeneas lived 4-600 years before Dido/Elissa.
Carthage was an outpost built by the Phoenicians, a maritime Levantine people, related to the Canaanites and the Israelites. When the Assyrians conquered the Levant, the Israelites and Phoenicians experienced a diaspora where they fled across the mediterranean.
Carthage (New City) was one of those outposts.
@@franohmsford7548 I heard he liked younger women
Yeah, it'd be cool to see a documentary on Carthage's rise to prominence. Maybe we just don't have the records.
I would give anything for a well produced series dramatizing the Second Punic war, alternating between the viewpoints of Hannibal and Scipio.
Lindybeige has a graphic novel coming that is in your ballpark.
@@baconghoti I seem to remember he announced that project years ago only for there to be zero updates on it.
@@dragonforks93 it's had updates. The 32nd update was on 25th July 2023 when the first art stage completed. Yes, its running slow, but its still into initial print proof territory and orders can still be placed.
Carthage is such an amazing topic to talk about. From their connection to the sea, through the commerce and all the way up to Hannibal. I recommend the album 'The Immortal Wars' by Ex Deo, a concept album about Hannibal
Great video, Metatron. Fascinating. I really enjoyed this episode. Thank you and the Patreons for your generosity, sharing this video with us, on your main channel. Really appreciate it the kind gesture. Have a good day, Metatron, and the same to everybody. Cheers.
Thank you for the wonderful video. For some reason there is a general lack of videos on the Phoenicians and Canaanites in general, so this was a very wonderful treat!
Just bonus commentary from a Lebanese person 😊:
-The Romans were losing until they realized how to achieve Phoenician maritime technology
-The story of Aeneas meeting Elissar/Dido is really cool when looking at how Rome was doomed because of a curse from it's very conception
- In Lebanon we still carry our ancestors stories of Dido and we actually call her Elissar (modern day Elishat)
- This one is a nitpick so dont have to bother reading it lol, the Phoencians are the ancestors of the Lebanese, and we are very proud of our ancient civilization, so it would be nice have mentioned specifically which country they originated
Why does someone need to specifically mention your country in a video that isn't about your country?
Can't you feel proud of your heritage without someone on social media causing it?
Actually it's pretty stunnig that rome was able to win the first punic war after they drowned there fleet two or three times because of a storm. They really wasn't good at the beginning at naval war😂😂😂
@@MichaelLewis-fx8eq it's not even related to their country. Carthaginians were 99% berbers
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Ever since I came to TH-cam, it seems like most of the videos on the Canaanites are from Christian channels. So the point of view is quite hostile against them, to keep that brief. It is refreshing when I can find something from the point of view of professional historians, or "amateur scholars" as a few of us called it. I had some nice conversations back then with Walter Mattfeld on ancient Sumer way back then when he used the term "amateur scholar." It just meant laymen who were making honest attempts at researching the history and works by professional scholars (such as Samuel Noah Kramer), but I digress now. Mention Canaanites or Sumer in the search and you got a swarm of conspiracy theories, David Icke, Zecharia Sitchen, religious (Bible) fundamentalists, and other crazy goofy stuff like that... or the occasional satanist and luciferian stuff too.
I would love to learn more about Carthage! In your next video, please throw some light on its civilization, especially aspects of everyday life and its controversial religious practices. Congratulations, Metatron! 🎉
"...controversial religious practices" - translation: Infant sacrifice. That is not to say I know either way, whether they actually did or not. In 2010 a team out of U of Pittsburgh reportedly found that nearly 20% of the supposed sacrifices were children who died prenatally and were probably stillborn. Thus putting an end to the idea that these offerings had been overtly sacrificed. But then supposedly in 2014 they decided to ignore that evidence, because there would certainly be more stillbirths and perinatal deaths than would account for the few numbers of offerings found. It doesn't seem to consider that perhaps it was very expensive or limited to an elite/privileged class that could have their children considered an offering worthy of the gods' attention.
Great video! It is good to see Carthage receiving more atention and transmiting more information besides Hannibal and the punic wars. I'll be waiting for the next episodes.
That moment at 13:41 when i realized all the bible verses about squandering and burying your "talents" were actually about "Talentini", the silver currency.....
Thank you Metatron, the channel is bringing my interpretation and appreciation of the bible in whole new perspective. A perspective ripe with context and literal translation.
Their ships are really strong in Civ 5.
Nah man, it's all about the Byzantium Dromon.
They are basically the worst civilisation in the game.
@@Crimea_Riverphoenician cothon buildings make all ships within a friendly sea tile full heal in one turn, if the dromon cant kill a phonician ship in one turn it will just heal
It's only a game.
IRL they had the best Navy in the Med. Dudes were going all over the Atlantic. And where the best traders.
And if you really wanna spaz out. There is an amount of evidence greater than 0 showing them/their ancestors mining in North America. Which is how the bronze age was able to happen
Here before Jada Pinkett Smith.
We wuz tha reel Karthugonions
You must think about blks all day
I’ve heard about Carthage my whole life but this is the most I’ve ever known about them. Thanks much.
This episode was INSANELY cool! It felt wordly and semi-mysterious with the smooth background music. Kudos to you Metatron on starting this series. I can't wait to see you delve even deeper into the Carthaginians, for they lasted much longer than we might've first assumed in ancient history.
Great video!! Just wanted to add to what you said about Greek influence. Don’t under estimate the cultural and military influence of Cyrene and Cyrenaica in general. Would love to see a video about this often forgotten and under looked Greek state btw! And of course, would love to see more about Carthage. -Laz
I'm in the middle of designing a miniature range of Carthaginians (STLs) these sorts of videos are so helpful! Please keep them coming!!
First it was the cathaginians, then it was the Egyptians, then it was the Levantine cultures, then it was Greece, shortly followed by Rome.. now we have entered the strange realm of not only the British, but the irish, Germans and even Nordic 'vikings' are now black.
Clown
World
It says something about the inferiority complex of the people trying to steal your history. Whats further humorous is that they call your history -ist and within 5 - 7 years are claiming its theirs.
@Darius-_ 'steal Egytpian glory' huh? European anthropologists you say? I'm not sure what you mean by 'European' or anything else you've said, but if I'm to assume my response is as follows:
The realm we inhabit was thriving, high culture, high tech, high quality of life etc, then one day that stopped, in it's place was cataclysm Flintstones land. The realm carried on this way, until, a race of people who - by developing a post cataclysmic cultural custom of ceremonial banishment of all the young men - managed to spread throughout the navigable realm. All along the way they found primitive people, they mated with their women, creating hybrid races all over the place.
The only people who can claim ancient Egytpian glory is the ancient Egytpians, however if the modern peoples closest related are allowed to have said 'glory, again.. whatever that means, than Europeans are those people. Those males I spoke of would've looked tall, grey/blue eyed, etc not anything else..
The video said the true, that Rome and Carthage had many immigrants and trader from diferents places. The were a minority and only stayed at the capital and trading places or as mercenaries.
@@dangerousdiscourse Now you are just trolling. There are DNA tests and studies on mummies from Egypt. They are all Arab like.
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I would love to see an interview/discussion between Metatron and Mike Duncan about all things Rome.
Do the Hellenistic states next, or do all three separate. Antigonid macedon would be awesome
Can you do one on the Dacians? Would be interested in your perspective
I've been hoping you'd do a video about the Phoenicians and Carthage. This is fantastic.
New subscriber here. I just love your proper grammar and the fact that you made the effort to edit your own video and correct where you missed saying ‘have’ before saying ‘been’ was pretty great.
I have to say Metatron, you've done it again. Great video and I'm eagerly awaiting to watch the whole series. Some years ago Italian archaeologists stumbled onto and dug up the battlefield of Himera. I hope that you can do a series of videos on this topic.
Have just very recently discovered this fascinating civilization. Please, we would love to see more!
This is a great and very informative video.
Being a Hebrew speaker and hearing you say Malk which is too similar to Melech (מלך) and Shofet which is the same exact word, meaning, and pronunciation (שופט-judge). It's somewhat funny to hear how similar the two languages are.
The Golden Age of Solomon was the Age of Tyre and all the Canaanite languages. In the Assyrian Period Aramaic displaced all these, bar Punic and liturgical Hebrew: hence Ezekiel 28 laments Tyre as a former "guardian cherub...on the holy mount of God". Aristotle, c350BC, noted Carthaginians still called themselves Canaani (meaning the same as Greek 'Phoenician' - Purple People).
@@differous01 Thanks for the information I didn't know before.
I knew Hebrew was a Phoenician-based language that was later mixed with Aramic, but I didn't understand how similar the languages really were.
Also, it's quite interesting Carthaginians called themselves Canaani.
Because of their historical connection to Rome, I tend to forget how close they were and that they are among the Canaanite people.
purple people because of the techellet snail which produced purple dye?@@differous01
Worth noting that "Malka" in Hebrew means queen. close resemblance to the Carthaginian word for their highest office, "Malk". Also as you said, it was founded by a woman. If we believe the origin story in any capacity, there could be a relation here. Also, "shofet" means judge in Hebrew too. Interesting video!
Carthaginians were white
@@jmgonzales7701 And Jews aren't?
MLK (without vowels) means “king” in Canaanite, the ancestral language of Hebrew and Phoenician (Punic is just a late dialect of Phoenician). If you know how to read Biblical Hebrew, it is not difficult to read Phoenician and Punic. (Prob. about the same of Spanish and Italian at most, if not closer.)
@@filmandfirearms never said jews arent white. They are white too.
@@jmgonzales7701
Carthaginians were Semites.
Yesss carthage! Been waiting for this. Reminds me of all those years spend on Rome Total War
I can't wait for the next episode, thank you for the education that you provide us!
Thank you so much for making a video about Carthage. Yet, I have a few points to it.
Aristotle writes that the Court of 104 was actually independent body from the senate. One of the works of the court 104 was for example judging unsuccesful military commanders in chief (which was a independent position - Rab Mahanet).
Another point I have is that Polybios of Megalopolis writes that Romans really started considering taking over Sicily after the succesfull Siege of Agrigentum. Romans also (from what I ever found) never said no to Mamertines. They dedlocked the senate on this matter form quite a while. Carthaginians also, while being a garison in Messana, neogatiated peace between the Mamertines and Syracuse. Situation changed, when Romans finally agreed to help Mamertines. Mamertines expelled carthaginian garison, invited the Romans, Carthage allied with Syracuse.....and war started.
Thank you for mentioning the treaties between Carthage and Rome (last being struck 8 years before the First Punic War). This is often overlooked aspect of Cartho-Roman relationship. Thank you so much for making this video.
Hiya Metatron sir!!!! I am unsure whether you've done it, but can we get a video on the ancient Gauls and their struggles with the SPQR? I'll forever be a teensy bit mad about how they treated tribal people in the vicinity of Rome. Thank you and much love!!!!
Hope you can discuss more about Carthage especially their battles against Rome
Yes! We need more episodes about carthage!
I'd love a video about your favourite games that have to do with history. You could explain what is and isn't accurate and what you do or don't like about the game. :)
Metatron, will you ever make a video about the Varangian guard?
Intriguing, informative, entertaining and well-illustrated as always, Metatron, along with your excellent research and fair delivery. Grazie!
I very much enjoyed this episode! I'd love to have more.
We all know where this is heading, the impossible journey of Hannibal across the alps with his war elephants, being one of the craziest military endeavors of the ancient world,
along with Alexander the Greats venture East and the Romans attempted conquest of North Britannia!!!
But very interesting to hear about the founding of Carthage, something all to often skipped over.
Eagar to hear more in this series, eventually ending with Hannibals story!!
Which may in turn prompt a series about Alexander the Great and his campaign into the Middle East and beyond...
This was an absolute treat to watch. Thank you
Highly recommend Paul Coopers fall of civilisation podcast as it is incredibly well researched
Older brother: This is my kingdom now. Go play with your dolls or something.
Sister: *Founds Carthage*
Older brother: ....Well done, sis. I didn't expect that...
Does Metatron do live streams? I'd love to see him discuss with other historians!
If I may be so bold, I'd love to see a discussion with Shakkah Ahmose and Metatron on ancient Kemet and lost historical texts!
God speed Metatron Hotep and build!
Going live in about ten minutes
Can`t wait for it to continue!
I would love a 20 episodes série about Carthago
Yes, I vote for making even a 13th episode about Carthage. Quite an interesting topic and it would be great to hear more about this civilisation and other ancient civilisations.
Ha! Just in time for the Carthagineses y Romanos "festival" here in Spain. Couldn't have picked a better moment to release this!
I would love more episodes like this
Wonderful video! Congrats, Metatron.
First time I learned about Carthage as a whole--not just about Hannibal--was also when I realized just how potent the Roman propaganda machine was. Anything that had at least a small grain of truth to it was stretched out and twisted to make the Carthaginians look as bad as possible. They need more recognition. Much more.
I mean, they did practice child sacrifice, but I guess that's okay.
@@Sdroalaun They did. And that was the only thing they were known for because of that.
Yes!!! More episodes. I studied all this at school, but you make it more accessible. Please make the entire series.
As always, great video! I would love more videos on Carthage in general. Perhaps the Punic wars from the perspective of Carthage? Most videos I have seen covering it focuses mostly on the roman "reaction" (for a lac of a better word) to the conflict.
Glad to see some content about Carthage here. Here in Tunisia, we value and love our history. I love the naming trend we Tunisians are doing now. Some name their babies Hannibal these days, we even have someone naming his son Julius Caesar lol.
My friend has a son named Ares, that Macedonian-Carthaginian alliance back then made a lasting impact on something i guess.
Your my discovery channel.. well done.. was a big fan of the game EVONY... had many wars in Carth
Carthage has always fascinated me. Unlike Hellenic powers that gave up after 1, 2 or even 3 battles against Rome, the Punics were able to stand toe to toe against Rome in it's youthful prime, and pump out just as many men as Rome did into the meat grinder. This is not even including the Mediterranean's greatest General, Hannibal Barca who is just as interesting and just as great as Alexander the Great.
Go team Carthage, the only true rival to the Roman Republic!
do you think china would have beaten rome
@@jmgonzales7701 Considering China wasn't unified at the time, just a collection of small states that were constantly warring amongst each other, I highly doubt it
Don't be so sure on that. Rome wasn't unified either as it had not yet conquered Sicily, Carthage, or Greece during this time. A good comparable strength for China to Rome would be State of Qin, which ended up unifying all of China, just as Rome had with all of the Mediterranean.
During the Qin conquest of Zhao, the Qin were able to muster a force of 550,000 soldiers into their ranks and were able to defeat a Zhao army of 450,000 at the battle of Changping in 260 B.C. These numbers are huge, but also keep in mind that China holds a very large area of Earth, the states of Qin and Zhao, although small compared to the rest of China, were still huge, wealthy, and powerful enough to expel external threats.
I am not going to say who will win, but I can say both the Qin and Roman Republic were very capable people in terms of logistics, warfare, and adaptation. @@filmandfirearms
@@filmandfirearms the germanic groups were not a unified states but they beat rome not only that they got rome too.
Great to see you covering Carthage! More yes please!
I think you'll find it was more Spanish & Gallic mercenaries that were used as "cannon fodder"(they even shafted them of wages after losing the 1st Punic war & had to put them down in a major rebellion) & the Liby-Phonecian heavy infantry were some of their best. Amused you said they gave up the Aspis for a "flat" shield(More like a Theros or Scutum) but illustrate that with a curved Scutum.
I first read of the Carthaginians by reading a library book in my teens in the 1970's("Carthage must die" I think in was called). The exploits of their traders & explorers are amazing. Also had a DBM wargame 1st Punic war 15mm Carthaginian army for some years until I had to sell it to help fund a flat move.
Back to form! Great video.
According to Hollywood, Nordicist Romans whith British accents fought Afrocentrist Carthagineans from Benin 😂
I would definitely like to see this become a series , covering all aspects of Carthaginian life.
Yes please, continue with more episodes.
Thank you for this episode. I have never heard or read this subject explained so succinctly and plainly. May we have more, please?
Metatron! perhaps a tech glitch, the audio seems slightly out of synchronisation with the video when you speak. These things happen! :) Could also be a TH-cam app problem not a small editing glitch.
I saw it Too!
Look forward to more on Carthage and other opponents of Rome. I hope you do multiple parts on each as the body of your research grows
can you please do a video on phoenicians/canaanites?
You should consider a video on Greek and Roman geographic terms. "Libya" in antiquity would have been all of Africa west of the Nile, for example, and Berbers would have been called Libyans. "Ethiopia" was sub-Sarahan African. I recently discovered that "Sudan" in antiquity would have referred to that part of Africa that today extends from modern day Guinea to Cameroon, thus is off by thousands of miles from the modern day country of Sudan. It's fascinating how the ancient Greeks and Romans used words for Africa which we still use today, but use in notably different ways. But what else is there? Those are the only three I know of, but I would expect there must be more.
More, please. That was just the barest start.
Those Carthaginians are lucky the Metatron wasn’t around back then doing what he does best: clapping historical cheeks!!!!! You’re numero uno in human history Metatron!!!!!
So Nova Cartago was actually New New City?
I am waiting for the Pyrrhos of Epiros episodes!😊
Do Lusitania in Iberia 😩 the civilization with Viriathus
Looking forward to episode 13!👍😀
How about doing an alternate history about what if Carthage won the Punic Wars and conquered Rome?
Difficult. They had a different policy, a melting pot rather than an expanding empire. They would have had a much lesser influence on later times.
@@ThePerfectRedpolicies are fluid. Rome was a republic before it was an empire.
Did you see Cody's What if Rome never existed?
@@tomzhouschannel968no. Is it on youtube?
@@ctam79I think the channel is called Alternatehistoryhub, but that might be their second channel 👍🏻
I think I speak for a great many of your followers-yes, please make more of these. Mille grazie in advance!
Really enjoyed this episode, thank you Metatron. I find it rather ironical that in myth Dido and Aeneas were lovers, but in history their countries became rivals. Did Dido's peoples never forgive Aeneas for leaving her? ;)
You probably know this, but it's worth mentioning that the Punic word _sufet_ is the same word as the _shophetim_ of the Bible, the Judges like Samson, Gideon, and Deborah. As you said, Punic was very closely related to ancient Hebrew.
Noble one! A million thank you’s for this episode. I am reading the book on Carthage called, Carthage Must Be Destroyed by Richard Miles, published in 2011. Highly recommend. The chapter I am reading is called, In The Footsteps Of Heracles, going now through the subchapter, The Battle Of Cannes. I was watching one of your videos and you said the word Carthage in that video and I thought to myself that it would be nice if you had done a video on that ancient city. Lo and behold, I saw in a front page on TH-cam that you had just completed one. The Fates work in mysterious ways. Please do make more videos on this.
I wonder how often Metatron thinks about the Roman Empire
Seems you were playing Heros of Might and Magic! Ages since I fougth with that Orrin I spot at your screen!
I did not know any of this thanks. Always thought Hannibal was an exceptional leader
Even the Ancient Greeks recognized that the Carthaginians had developed a form of democracy.
We need more videos on Carthage especially their daily life, connections to Africa, and lesser known battles!
pls sir do discuss carthage as much as youd like 👍
Thank you for making this. I want to know more about Chartage, it’s such a mysterious place, like an atlantis but sunk by the romans.
Very interesting man. Please make more videos about the puni.
Did you already made one about the Lusitanos? And one about the Norsemen?
I could go for longer more in depth videos! Love your stuff my man!
Thank you Metratron for making me think about the roman empire every day
I wish you wanted to topple a bit more about the more obscure of these cultures, such as the Iberians or the Illyrians
Keep this going; I'm am heavily invested in this topic.
Dodanim was a son of Javan. Another son is Elisha. Javan is the Ancestor of the Mediterranean sea people. The other sons and civilizations are Tarshish in Iberia and Kittim in Cypress.
yes sir let's get to that part 30!
yes this is interesting, show much more like we learned about the war in my time in school
Episode 2!! Please!!
By the end of the 2nd Punic war, Hannibal had killed proportionally as many Roman adult males as Nazi Germany did the Soviets in WW2, around 1 in every 6, just a staggering sum.
Most of this is new to me---please give us more!
That’s really awesome. I’d like an episode 2
What song was that at the end? It was beautiful
Great video!
The Carthaginian foundation story sounds like the foundation story of Dorne, aka the Dornish in Game of thrones.
You can’t do this too me Metatron, where’s part two already 😭.
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