Defo make more Carthage vids. Their religion is interesting, as well as the Hannibal stuff. I wonder what the surprising things about Carthage could be?
I wish that I could wish that they could make an open world survival game where you can explore an entire 3D model of Carthage from the tallest tower to the deepest dungeon. However, if such a video game WAS ever made, we both know 2 things that will happen.
As a Tunisian, I'm gonna tell you how my people view Carthage: -The Carthaginian Political system, religion and wars against Rome are taught in schools at least in 4 grades. They depict Hannibal as a genius that was very close to defeating the romans -almost every Tunisian knows Hannibal; he, until recently, was on the 5 Tunisian Dinars banknote. Also, a very famous Tv station is called Hannibal. -The name "Carthage" is almost everywhere. The most famous attraction park in Tunisia is called Carthage Land, a close second is Hannibal Park.The biggest airport, festival and theatres are also called Carthage. -Parents generally don't name their children Hannibal or Elissa, but there is a football player on the national team and who also plays for Manchester Utd who's called Hannibal Mejbri Unfortunately, most Tunisians aren't very fond of History as I am and therefore don't realize the historical significance of many historical sites in Tunisia Edit1: What I wanna add after watching the video; -If you ask anyone in Tunisia "do you know who Dido is?" the answer is gonna be "No" 99% of the time. Tunisians and the tunisian education system calls the founder of Carthage Elissa or more accurately "عِلِّيسَى" (copy and paste in Google Translate to hear the pronunciation) as I mentioned before watching the video.
Same with Algeria, you can find some random shops or sportif club with the name numidia xD but I don’t think a lots of people ( except hardcore nationalists or historians) Know about massinissa or Juba II :( or even caesarea mauretania
I'm kind of interested in the history of Carthage before the Punic wars, usually whenever their empire is discussed it's in relation to their rivalry with Rome, but their empire had existed for centuries when Rome first became a problem for them.
Carthage was an outpost built by the Phoenicians, a maritime Levantine people, related to the Canaanites and the Israelites. When the Assyrians conquered the Levant, the Israelites and Phoenicians experienced a diaspora where they fled across the mediterranean. Carthage (New City) was one of those outposts.
This place always fascinated me since it’s like an alternative version of Rome. I always wondered what the modern world would look like if Carthage ended up victorious.
They're an "alternative version of Rome" like Russia is an alternative to France and Ancient Egypt is an alternative to Ancient Greece. There are many what-if scenarios around, but you need to change multiple crucial things to make it so that Carthage vanquishes Rome. Though I really hope Metatron doesn't turn this into an alt-hist channel.
It is always an interesting speculation as to what would have happened if Carthage had beaten Rome. Ironically, even after Rome wiped out the Carthaginians, they realized the value of the city. They rebuilt it and ruled for centuries. So, in a sense, Carthage never really was wiped out.
Importantly, Punic religion, culture, and language weren't wiped out either. Emperor Septimius Severus was a Punic, it is said he spoke Latin with a noticeable Punic accent, and introduced Punic Gods to the Roman pantheon.
@@yazanraouf9604 There a papers from 2014 that the Carthaginians practiced ritual child sacrifice, much like their ancestors Phonecians, they worshipped Old Canaanite Gods like Baal who was later referred as the Devil post-christianity. Romans and Greeks detested them in many of their writing.
@@yazanraouf9604 he didnt introduce the Punic gods. He did speak at least some Punic though. Not sure where you heard that from. He was still Roman even if he lived in Roman Africa.
@@CptSquirrel Emperor Septimius Severus was pushing for syncretism (all gods are valid) in order to promote unity to the Empire. So Punic gods would have been included, though they were not the only ones. At least that’s what I gleaned from a quick search of his reign on Google. *Edit:* the specific definintion of Syncretism is: "the amalgamation or attempted amalgamation of different religions, cultures, or schools of thought." Certain religions were not view as valid under Septimius Severus, specifically Judaism and Christianity since "I am the Lord thy God, thou shalt not have any other gods before me" doesn't mix well with polytheism
Unlike Rome, Qart Hadasht or Carthage has had a prolific number of cities named after it. Across the mediterranean sea in Spain there's Cartagena, fka Cartago Nova, so New New city and crossing the Atlantic ocean in modern day Colombia, there's Cartagena de Indias, the New New city of the (west) Indies, Where the British Navy met it's largest defeat in history, as well as Cartagena del Chairá, Cártago and other cities named after the Carthaginian capital.
New Carthage was built by the Carthaginians, and sacked by the Romans, which dealt a massive morale blow to the Spanish tribes and convinced many of them to switch sides and fight for the Romans
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Please continue with this series. Very informative and entertaining. Although there have been several good documentaries of the Punic wars your take is always insightful and highly entertaining. Love your work. Definitely one of my favorite channels.
Great video, Metatron. Fascinating. I really enjoyed this episode. Thank you and the Patreons for your generosity, sharing this video with us, on your main channel. Really appreciate it the kind gesture. Have a good day, Metatron, and the same to everybody. Cheers.
First it was the cathaginians, then it was the Egyptians, then it was the Levantine cultures, then it was Greece, shortly followed by Rome.. now we have entered the strange realm of not only the British, but the irish, Germans and even Nordic 'vikings' are now black. Clown World
It says something about the inferiority complex of the people trying to steal your history. Whats further humorous is that they call your history -ist and within 5 - 7 years are claiming its theirs.
@Darius-_ 'steal Egytpian glory' huh? European anthropologists you say? I'm not sure what you mean by 'European' or anything else you've said, but if I'm to assume my response is as follows: The realm we inhabit was thriving, high culture, high tech, high quality of life etc, then one day that stopped, in it's place was cataclysm Flintstones land. The realm carried on this way, until, a race of people who - by developing a post cataclysmic cultural custom of ceremonial banishment of all the young men - managed to spread throughout the navigable realm. All along the way they found primitive people, they mated with their women, creating hybrid races all over the place. The only people who can claim ancient Egytpian glory is the ancient Egytpians, however if the modern peoples closest related are allowed to have said 'glory, again.. whatever that means, than Europeans are those people. Those males I spoke of would've looked tall, grey/blue eyed, etc not anything else..
The video said the true, that Rome and Carthage had many immigrants and trader from diferents places. The were a minority and only stayed at the capital and trading places or as mercenaries.
Great video! It is good to see Carthage receiving more atention and transmiting more information besides Hannibal and the punic wars. I'll be waiting for the next episodes.
That moment at 13:41 when i realized all the bible verses about squandering and burying your "talents" were actually about "Talentini", the silver currency..... Thank you Metatron, the channel is bringing my interpretation and appreciation of the bible in whole new perspective. A perspective ripe with context and literal translation.
I spent some time in Sardinia and while there, I would visit the various archeological sites like nuraghe, pozzo sacre and tomba dei giganti. One time, a tour guide was stating that many of the nuraghe sites had been built over by the Carthaginians and the way that they could tell was that the nuraghe had circular walls, but if the walls were straight, the Carthaginians had built there afterward.
Please, do a part 2! I would love to not only see a multi-part series on Carthage, but on the Phoenicians in general. There is a fascinating history to other Phoenician cities, like Tyre (from which Dido is said to have fled) and Sidon, too.
I liked very much this episode, the punic wars is a topic I'm very interested about. I find it interesting not only the events that lead to the wars themselves, but also the other events that "shape", if you will, the roman empire as we know it. I believe you did an incredible job on your research, what surprised me the most was Dido's actual name. One other thing I find it interesting, on a historical linguistic point of view, is the word "Punic" and the spanish city "Barcelona". Its fascinating how words like these are in our every-day language and still eco those periods of time. In me, it resonates the fights and struggles of the thousands of men from both sides on a conquest of who gets the Mediterranean sea.
Carthage is such an amazing topic to talk about. From their connection to the sea, through the commerce and all the way up to Hannibal. I recommend the album 'The Immortal Wars' by Ex Deo, a concept album about Hannibal
This episode was INSANELY cool! It felt wordly and semi-mysterious with the smooth background music. Kudos to you Metatron on starting this series. I can't wait to see you delve even deeper into the Carthaginians, for they lasted much longer than we might've first assumed in ancient history.
I would love to learn more about Carthage! In your next video, please throw some light on its civilization, especially aspects of everyday life and its controversial religious practices. Congratulations, Metatron! 🎉
"...controversial religious practices" - translation: Infant sacrifice. That is not to say I know either way, whether they actually did or not. In 2010 a team out of U of Pittsburgh reportedly found that nearly 20% of the supposed sacrifices were children who died prenatally and were probably stillborn. Thus putting an end to the idea that these offerings had been overtly sacrificed. But then supposedly in 2014 they decided to ignore that evidence, because there would certainly be more stillbirths and perinatal deaths than would account for the few numbers of offerings found. It doesn't seem to consider that perhaps it was very expensive or limited to an elite/privileged class that could have their children considered an offering worthy of the gods' attention.
I first learned of the Carthaginians from the original Age of Empires in the 90s. AoE2 is probably more nostalgic for me, but the main thing I remember from AoE1 was the Carthage campaign in the demo and struggling against Rome in my first RTS game 😂
@@Crimea_Riverphoenician cothon buildings make all ships within a friendly sea tile full heal in one turn, if the dromon cant kill a phonician ship in one turn it will just heal
IRL they had the best Navy in the Med. Dudes were going all over the Atlantic. And where the best traders. And if you really wanna spaz out. There is an amount of evidence greater than 0 showing them/their ancestors mining in North America. Which is how the bronze age was able to happen
Can you do the Anglia and Celts next? I know the most requested will be either the Franks/Gauls but doing some of the less talked about enemies first would be cooler
Thank you for the wonderful video. For some reason there is a general lack of videos on the Phoenicians and Canaanites in general, so this was a very wonderful treat! Just bonus commentary from a Lebanese person 😊: -The Romans were losing until they realized how to achieve Phoenician maritime technology -The story of Aeneas meeting Elissar/Dido is really cool when looking at how Rome was doomed because of a curse from it's very conception - In Lebanon we still carry our ancestors stories of Dido and we actually call her Elissar (modern day Elishat) - This one is a nitpick so dont have to bother reading it lol, the Phoencians are the ancestors of the Lebanese, and we are very proud of our ancient civilization, so it would be nice have mentioned specifically which country they originated
Why does someone need to specifically mention your country in a video that isn't about your country? Can't you feel proud of your heritage without someone on social media causing it?
Actually it's pretty stunnig that rome was able to win the first punic war after they drowned there fleet two or three times because of a storm. They really wasn't good at the beginning at naval war😂😂😂
Yes! A series on Carthage is much appreciated. When discussing the government of Carthage, I believe Aristotle also gave insight on its assembly, which he peculiarly thought to be the best system of statehood put to practice he knew of - A. believed the the strenths and weaknesses of monarchy, republic and aristocracy were checked and balanced with each other harmoniously in that Punic metropolis.
Loved the video. I am a roleplayer and I have done a few alternative history campaigns in which Carthage wins the Punic wars. I loved how the Carthage history was including more of European people and cultures. Yes Rome had so many different cultures in it, but it was absorbing conquered people, unlike Carthage.
Great video!! Just wanted to add to what you said about Greek influence. Don’t under estimate the cultural and military influence of Cyrene and Cyrenaica in general. Would love to see a video about this often forgotten and under looked Greek state btw! And of course, would love to see more about Carthage. -Laz
super interested about carthage. Only recently(about a couple months ago) did I realize/learn that these are actually the descendants (in part) of the Phoenicians, a people I already actually knew about, but was never told of the connection or relation between the two. Crazy stuff, I am a longtime history buff (main interest in Russian history due to heritage), but this is a complete novelty to me, so I love hearing about it.
Excellent!! Yes please continue to explore and explain the Mediterranean region. As a Spaniard, I would love to see you do a deep dive into the history of the Iberian peninsula. Going through the Visigoth period.
Very interresting. The historical unbalance in telling the history of for example Rome vs Carthago is enourmus. Everybody learned a lot of the history of Rome, but Carthago is mainly reduced to a fotnote or just a name in history, so great that you add pieces to the puzzle. I hope you will make more of Carthago but why not a series of all former enemies/competition of Rome. It is also a way to better understand Rome. Personally Julius Caesar is one of my heroes. Not that I like him as a person but he is so interresting in multiple ways. Starting of as a ”poor” noble, putting a lot on one card economically, argueing with Cicero in courts, and later convincing his troops by Rubicon (Caesar must have also been great in rethorics at the level of Cicero). His religious career as pontifex maximus etc. His diaries over Gallia as some of the first diaries as well as the importance from describing a bit of their culture. His obvious political greatnes mentioning his calender as an example, military skill obvious, and his feeling for the publictheater wearing his purple cloac. He is in many way a great charachter, even he obviously missed out on the poplitical anger against him in the end. I read Adrian Goldsworthys book about him long ago and got fascinated by the man and the time.
I just watched "Fall of Civilizations" Episode on Carthage - Empire of the Phoenicians a few days ago. It's very interesting and a historical warning against the decay of loyalty that goes along with any "melting pot"-experiments and against a libertarian state were money really equals power 1:1.
concerning the Punic language and it similarity with Hebrew, I've read somewhere that Septimus Severus could still speak Punic as he had Punic ancestry and when he visited Jerusalem around 200 AD he was able to understand Hebrew and communicate with some locals.
St Augustine of Hippo (died AD 430), who was from North Africa, mentions that the country people of his day spoke "Punic" but called themselves "Canaanite" (which is of course what Phoenicians called themselves): Unde interrogati rustici nostri, quid sint, Punice respondentes: Chanani "For which reason our rustics, when asked what they are, [and] replying in Punic ‘Chanani’"
I've been enamored with Carthage ever since I first heard of them less than a year ago. It's such a fascinating ancient civilization that most people know nothing about, but they seem to be gaining a lot of attention. P.S. You can definitely see some Hebrew connections in their language. "Malk" is similar to "Malekh", which means king. Shofet is also similar to the Hebrew Shophetim, which means judges.
Actually it is more close to the Arabic word "Malik" which means king. The "kh" sound at the end of the word Malekh makes it more distant than the Arabic counterpart.
Actually I can tell you as a native Hebrew speaker, "Shofet" is not only similar to the corresponding Hebrew word it is the exact same word, "Shoftim" (or the way you wrote it "Shophetim") is the plural form of the singular form "Shofet" in Hebrew, so no difference, even the pronunciation is exactly how Raffi pronounced it.
@@litmeisteryou can see he has an american education, even worse probably a "christian" one, so basically fairy tales, but in general what american public schools teach about antiquity is miniscule, and the world history in general. I'm from europe, we learn history chronologically, so yeah fifth grade is basically just antiquity, sixth the middle ages, seventh rennaisance and early modern age, so there comes the america in our curiculum, last year is modern age after the industrial revolution, so world wars, revolutions, decolonisation and so on, at least it was so some 35-40 years ago when i was in school, but yeah we learnt about the carthage and sumerians alike two years earlier than we learnt jefferson, luisiana or portugese empire in brasil. But yeah besides rome itself carthage and macedonian empire are two most important parts, even greek-persian wars weren't that high on the list.
I am quite interested in learning more about other empires and political bodies from this period in history. Looking forward to an episode two on Carthege.
I have to say Metatron, you've done it again. Great video and I'm eagerly awaiting to watch the whole series. Some years ago Italian archaeologists stumbled onto and dug up the battlefield of Himera. I hope that you can do a series of videos on this topic.
Don't forget Baal Hamon, Tanit, post partum birth control. . .and more. I'm very interested in Carthage, and eagerly await your next installment, whatever it's gonna be about.
New subscriber here. I just love your proper grammar and the fact that you made the effort to edit your own video and correct where you missed saying ‘have’ before saying ‘been’ was pretty great.
This is a great and very informative video. Being a Hebrew speaker and hearing you say Malk which is too similar to Melech (מלך) and Shofet which is the same exact word, meaning, and pronunciation (שופט-judge). It's somewhat funny to hear how similar the two languages are.
The Golden Age of Solomon was the Age of Tyre and all the Canaanite languages. In the Assyrian Period Aramaic displaced all these, bar Punic and liturgical Hebrew: hence Ezekiel 28 laments Tyre as a former "guardian cherub...on the holy mount of God". Aristotle, c350BC, noted Carthaginians still called themselves Canaani (meaning the same as Greek 'Phoenician' - Purple People).
@@differous01 Thanks for the information I didn't know before. I knew Hebrew was a Phoenician-based language that was later mixed with Aramic, but I didn't understand how similar the languages really were. Also, it's quite interesting Carthaginians called themselves Canaani. Because of their historical connection to Rome, I tend to forget how close they were and that they are among the Canaanite people.
Worth noting that "Malka" in Hebrew means queen. close resemblance to the Carthaginian word for their highest office, "Malk". Also as you said, it was founded by a woman. If we believe the origin story in any capacity, there could be a relation here. Also, "shofet" means judge in Hebrew too. Interesting video!
MLK (without vowels) means “king” in Canaanite, the ancestral language of Hebrew and Phoenician (Punic is just a late dialect of Phoenician). If you know how to read Biblical Hebrew, it is not difficult to read Phoenician and Punic. (Prob. about the same of Spanish and Italian at most, if not closer.)
Thank you so much for making a video about Carthage. Yet, I have a few points to it. Aristotle writes that the Court of 104 was actually independent body from the senate. One of the works of the court 104 was for example judging unsuccesful military commanders in chief (which was a independent position - Rab Mahanet). Another point I have is that Polybios of Megalopolis writes that Romans really started considering taking over Sicily after the succesfull Siege of Agrigentum. Romans also (from what I ever found) never said no to Mamertines. They dedlocked the senate on this matter form quite a while. Carthaginians also, while being a garison in Messana, neogatiated peace between the Mamertines and Syracuse. Situation changed, when Romans finally agreed to help Mamertines. Mamertines expelled carthaginian garison, invited the Romans, Carthage allied with Syracuse.....and war started. Thank you for mentioning the treaties between Carthage and Rome (last being struck 8 years before the First Punic War). This is often overlooked aspect of Cartho-Roman relationship. Thank you so much for making this video.
1 year ago OverSimplified made 2 videos about the battles between Rome and Carthage. Part 3 has not come out yet, so seeing this for me is like a part 2.5 while I wait for part 3. I love these history videos.
Hiya Metatron sir!!!! I am unsure whether you've done it, but can we get a video on the ancient Gauls and their struggles with the SPQR? I'll forever be a teensy bit mad about how they treated tribal people in the vicinity of Rome. Thank you and much love!!!!
As a North African, I want to thank you very much for telling the truth about the skin color of our ancestors, thank you for not supporting the lies of black Africans
Its Americans that have no history, black Americans are obssesed with Egypt and WT Americans are obssesed with Vikings when neither of them have any connection with the latter.
As you are studying brazilian portuguese, make a video about frogpoisoned arrows and other weapons from ancient Brazil, for example, used by Arariboia's army in Rio de Janeiro Battle. Please. Excelent video! Regards from Brazil..
Is it just me or does the Carthaginian Senate sound almost identical to the Council system used by the Republic of Venice (with the Doge being the Malk, the Council of Ten taking decisions over the Grand Council, etc.)?
Carthage has always fascinated me. Unlike Hellenic powers that gave up after 1, 2 or even 3 battles against Rome, the Punics were able to stand toe to toe against Rome in it's youthful prime, and pump out just as many men as Rome did into the meat grinder. This is not even including the Mediterranean's greatest General, Hannibal Barca who is just as interesting and just as great as Alexander the Great. Go team Carthage, the only true rival to the Roman Republic!
@@jmgonzales7701 Considering China wasn't unified at the time, just a collection of small states that were constantly warring amongst each other, I highly doubt it
Don't be so sure on that. Rome wasn't unified either as it had not yet conquered Sicily, Carthage, or Greece during this time. A good comparable strength for China to Rome would be State of Qin, which ended up unifying all of China, just as Rome had with all of the Mediterranean. During the Qin conquest of Zhao, the Qin were able to muster a force of 550,000 soldiers into their ranks and were able to defeat a Zhao army of 450,000 at the battle of Changping in 260 B.C. These numbers are huge, but also keep in mind that China holds a very large area of Earth, the states of Qin and Zhao, although small compared to the rest of China, were still huge, wealthy, and powerful enough to expel external threats. I am not going to say who will win, but I can say both the Qin and Roman Republic were very capable people in terms of logistics, warfare, and adaptation. @@filmandfirearms
First time I learned about Carthage as a whole--not just about Hannibal--was also when I realized just how potent the Roman propaganda machine was. Anything that had at least a small grain of truth to it was stretched out and twisted to make the Carthaginians look as bad as possible. They need more recognition. Much more.
Another splendid episode . Well done metatron . Always found Rome fascinating and therefore her enemies are also fascinating . But it just proves how Mediterranean was mixing pot from Greeks to Libyans to Phoenicians to Egyptian to Celts to Berbers to southern Africans . I hope you do more episodes on Carthage .
@@danmitchell1955Southern Africans like my ancestors weren't in Carthage they were too far away deep in the continent. I'm guessing you mean black or Sub Saharan? If so, yes some likey from Central Africa and Western African Sahel region were there. The Phoenician Scarab Corpus signet rings and other art shows that as do human remains. But the majority were Amazigh and Phoenician.
I meant people from below Sahara so that be correct and I did say it be in minority I never said it be great but clearly it being people in closer proximity as they did not cars or airplanes or transport that get them there in hours . It been weeks
@@Jordi_Llopis_i_Torregrosa96 Carthaginians were mostly local north africans. The Levantines Phoenicians were a minority, as you heard from Metatron, they bought the land but were traders and just a few soldiers instead of colonizers.
@ayhamkimo4488 It would need a large immigration to north africa, something that did not happen because Carthage population was not big. Their army was mostly mercenaries, unlike Roman army. Also, not everyone followed the Phoenician culture. This is clear because of the funerals, Phoenician would cremate the dead but still didn't do it because they were locals. Phoenician were not like the greeks who had a bigger population and colonized many places. Phoenicians were traders and if you think most just followed Dido to colonize, you are wrong.
As always, great video! I would love more videos on Carthage in general. Perhaps the Punic wars from the perspective of Carthage? Most videos I have seen covering it focuses mostly on the roman "reaction" (for a lac of a better word) to the conflict.
Older brother: This is my kingdom now. Go play with your dolls or something. Sister: *Founds Carthage* Older brother: ....Well done, sis. I didn't expect that...
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Next time, the besentine empire
Defo make more Carthage vids. Their religion is interesting, as well as the Hannibal stuff. I wonder what the surprising things about Carthage could be?
can you talk about ancient isreal
How often do you think about the Roman Empire
Wasn't Elishat a priestess' title rather, instead of an actual name? I once met such an interpretation.
Carthage(Qart Hadasht) is one of my favourite less publicly examined civilisations. They deserve more time in the spotlight.
Same goes for the Hittites.
@@huskyfaninmass1042Agreed!
I wish that I could wish that they could make an open world survival game where you can explore an entire 3D model of Carthage from the tallest tower to the deepest dungeon.
However, if such a video game WAS ever made, we both know 2 things that will happen.
@@huskyfaninmass1042 Gozer the Gozerian would concur.
Sure but
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Cartago delanda est.
It's just historical fact. Sorry not sorry.
As a Tunisian, I'm gonna tell you how my people view Carthage:
-The Carthaginian Political system, religion and wars against Rome are taught in schools at least in 4 grades. They depict Hannibal as a genius that was very close to defeating the romans
-almost every Tunisian knows Hannibal; he, until recently, was on the 5 Tunisian Dinars banknote. Also, a very famous Tv station is called Hannibal.
-The name "Carthage" is almost everywhere. The most famous attraction park in Tunisia is called Carthage Land, a close second is Hannibal Park.The biggest airport, festival and theatres are also called Carthage.
-Parents generally don't name their children Hannibal or Elissa, but there is a football player on the national team and who also plays for Manchester Utd who's called Hannibal Mejbri
Unfortunately, most Tunisians aren't very fond of History as I am and therefore don't realize the historical significance of many historical sites in Tunisia
Edit1: What I wanna add after watching the video;
-If you ask anyone in Tunisia "do you know who Dido is?" the answer is gonna be "No" 99% of the time. Tunisians and the tunisian education system calls the founder of Carthage Elissa or more accurately "عِلِّيسَى" (copy and paste in Google Translate to hear the pronunciation) as I mentioned before watching the video.
That’s pretty cool
I want one, 5 Tunisian Dinars banknote with Hanibal on.
Cool
they're still in circulation but are not being printed anymore. Sadly, they replaced Hannibal with a man most Tunisians don't know.@@MFC343
Same with Algeria, you can find some random shops or sportif club with the name numidia xD but I don’t think a lots of people ( except hardcore nationalists or historians) Know about massinissa or Juba II :( or even caesarea mauretania
I'm kind of interested in the history of Carthage before the Punic wars, usually whenever their empire is discussed it's in relation to their rivalry with Rome, but their empire had existed for centuries when Rome first became a problem for them.
It all began with a woman named Dido and a bloke called Aeneas...
@@gre8 Only problem with that is that Aeneas lived 4-600 years before Dido/Elissa.
Carthage was an outpost built by the Phoenicians, a maritime Levantine people, related to the Canaanites and the Israelites. When the Assyrians conquered the Levant, the Israelites and Phoenicians experienced a diaspora where they fled across the mediterranean.
Carthage (New City) was one of those outposts.
@@franohmsford7548 I heard he liked younger women
you can go on over to Invicta, they have few videos about carthage that do not revolve around the punic wars
This place always fascinated me since it’s like an alternative version of Rome. I always wondered what the modern world would look like if Carthage ended up victorious.
They're an "alternative version of Rome" like Russia is an alternative to France and Ancient Egypt is an alternative to Ancient Greece.
There are many what-if scenarios around, but you need to change multiple crucial things to make it so that Carthage vanquishes Rome. Though I really hope Metatron doesn't turn this into an alt-hist channel.
It is always an interesting speculation as to what would have happened if Carthage had beaten Rome. Ironically, even after Rome wiped out the Carthaginians, they realized the value of the city. They rebuilt it and ruled for centuries. So, in a sense, Carthage never really was wiped out.
Importantly, Punic religion, culture, and language weren't wiped out either. Emperor Septimius Severus was a Punic, it is said he spoke Latin with a noticeable Punic accent, and introduced Punic Gods to the Roman pantheon.
@@yazanraouf9604 Can you give a source on that? Why would they ever introduce punic gods? Especially how much Romans detested them.
@@yazanraouf9604 There a papers from 2014 that the Carthaginians practiced ritual child sacrifice, much like their ancestors Phonecians, they worshipped Old Canaanite Gods like Baal who was later referred as the Devil post-christianity. Romans and Greeks detested them in many of their writing.
@@yazanraouf9604 he didnt introduce the Punic gods. He did speak at least some Punic though. Not sure where you heard that from. He was still Roman even if he lived in Roman Africa.
@@CptSquirrel Emperor Septimius Severus was pushing for syncretism (all gods are valid) in order to promote unity to the Empire. So Punic gods would have been included, though they were not the only ones. At least that’s what I gleaned from a quick search of his reign on Google.
*Edit:* the specific definintion of Syncretism is: "the amalgamation or attempted amalgamation of different religions, cultures, or schools of thought."
Certain religions were not view as valid under Septimius Severus, specifically Judaism and Christianity since "I am the Lord thy God, thou shalt not have any other gods before me" doesn't mix well with polytheism
Carthage is underrated as hell
But was it underraided? 🤔
Unlike Rome, Qart Hadasht or Carthage has had a prolific number of cities named after it. Across the mediterranean sea in Spain there's Cartagena, fka Cartago Nova, so New New city and crossing the Atlantic ocean in modern day Colombia, there's Cartagena de Indias, the New New city of the (west) Indies, Where the British Navy met it's largest defeat in history, as well as Cartagena del Chairá, Cártago and other cities named after the Carthaginian capital.
New Carthage was built by the Carthaginians, and sacked by the Romans, which dealt a massive morale blow to the Spanish tribes and convinced many of them to switch sides and fight for the Romans
I would give anything for a well produced series dramatizing the Second Punic war, alternating between the viewpoints of Hannibal and Scipio.
Lindybeige has a graphic novel coming that is in your ballpark.
@@baconghoti I seem to remember he announced that project years ago only for there to be zero updates on it.
@@dragonforks93 it's had updates. The 32nd update was on 25th July 2023 when the first art stage completed. Yes, its running slow, but its still into initial print proof territory and orders can still be placed.
Yes part 2 please
I am in love with Pheonicaians and Carthage history, despite not there being a lot of sources regarding it.
Please continue with this series. Very informative and entertaining. Although there have been several good documentaries of the Punic wars your take is always insightful and highly entertaining. Love your work. Definitely one of my favorite channels.
Great video, Metatron. Fascinating. I really enjoyed this episode. Thank you and the Patreons for your generosity, sharing this video with us, on your main channel. Really appreciate it the kind gesture. Have a good day, Metatron, and the same to everybody. Cheers.
First it was the cathaginians, then it was the Egyptians, then it was the Levantine cultures, then it was Greece, shortly followed by Rome.. now we have entered the strange realm of not only the British, but the irish, Germans and even Nordic 'vikings' are now black.
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It says something about the inferiority complex of the people trying to steal your history. Whats further humorous is that they call your history -ist and within 5 - 7 years are claiming its theirs.
@Darius-_ 'steal Egytpian glory' huh? European anthropologists you say? I'm not sure what you mean by 'European' or anything else you've said, but if I'm to assume my response is as follows:
The realm we inhabit was thriving, high culture, high tech, high quality of life etc, then one day that stopped, in it's place was cataclysm Flintstones land. The realm carried on this way, until, a race of people who - by developing a post cataclysmic cultural custom of ceremonial banishment of all the young men - managed to spread throughout the navigable realm. All along the way they found primitive people, they mated with their women, creating hybrid races all over the place.
The only people who can claim ancient Egytpian glory is the ancient Egytpians, however if the modern peoples closest related are allowed to have said 'glory, again.. whatever that means, than Europeans are those people. Those males I spoke of would've looked tall, grey/blue eyed, etc not anything else..
The video said the true, that Rome and Carthage had many immigrants and trader from diferents places. The were a minority and only stayed at the capital and trading places or as mercenaries.
@@dangerousdiscourse Now you are just trolling. There are DNA tests and studies on mummies from Egypt. They are all Arab like.
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I would really appreciate a series about the Punic Wars from the Metatron. Please, I feel like it's needed.
Great video! It is good to see Carthage receiving more atention and transmiting more information besides Hannibal and the punic wars. I'll be waiting for the next episodes.
That moment at 13:41 when i realized all the bible verses about squandering and burying your "talents" were actually about "Talentini", the silver currency.....
Thank you Metatron, the channel is bringing my interpretation and appreciation of the bible in whole new perspective. A perspective ripe with context and literal translation.
I spent some time in Sardinia and while there, I would visit the various archeological sites like nuraghe, pozzo sacre and tomba dei giganti. One time, a tour guide was stating that many of the nuraghe sites had been built over by the Carthaginians and the way that they could tell was that the nuraghe had circular walls, but if the walls were straight, the Carthaginians had built there afterward.
Please, do a part 2! I would love to not only see a multi-part series on Carthage, but on the Phoenicians in general. There is a fascinating history to other Phoenician cities, like Tyre (from which Dido is said to have fled) and Sidon, too.
I liked very much this episode, the punic wars is a topic I'm very interested about. I find it interesting not only the events that lead to the wars themselves, but also the other events that "shape", if you will, the roman empire as we know it. I believe you did an incredible job on your research, what surprised me the most was Dido's actual name. One other thing I find it interesting, on a historical linguistic point of view, is the word "Punic" and the spanish city "Barcelona". Its fascinating how words like these are in our every-day language and still eco those periods of time. In me, it resonates the fights and struggles of the thousands of men from both sides on a conquest of who gets the Mediterranean sea.
Carthage is such an amazing topic to talk about. From their connection to the sea, through the commerce and all the way up to Hannibal. I recommend the album 'The Immortal Wars' by Ex Deo, a concept album about Hannibal
Carthage has always been an enigma to me, so i would definitely like to see how you cover this.
Great job as always metatronos🎉
This episode was INSANELY cool! It felt wordly and semi-mysterious with the smooth background music. Kudos to you Metatron on starting this series. I can't wait to see you delve even deeper into the Carthaginians, for they lasted much longer than we might've first assumed in ancient history.
For anyone interested, Schwerpunkt made exceptional videos on Carthaginian warfare
The 2nd recommendation for that channel this evening!
I would love to learn more about Carthage! In your next video, please throw some light on its civilization, especially aspects of everyday life and its controversial religious practices. Congratulations, Metatron! 🎉
"...controversial religious practices" - translation: Infant sacrifice. That is not to say I know either way, whether they actually did or not. In 2010 a team out of U of Pittsburgh reportedly found that nearly 20% of the supposed sacrifices were children who died prenatally and were probably stillborn. Thus putting an end to the idea that these offerings had been overtly sacrificed. But then supposedly in 2014 they decided to ignore that evidence, because there would certainly be more stillbirths and perinatal deaths than would account for the few numbers of offerings found. It doesn't seem to consider that perhaps it was very expensive or limited to an elite/privileged class that could have their children considered an offering worthy of the gods' attention.
Metatron, now you HAVE to do an episode about Hannibal The Great, one of the greatest military leaders. Lake Trasimene, Cannae etc. Epic battles.
I first learned of the Carthaginians from the original Age of Empires in the 90s. AoE2 is probably more nostalgic for me, but the main thing I remember from AoE1 was the Carthage campaign in the demo and struggling against Rome in my first RTS game 😂
I'm in the middle of designing a miniature range of Carthaginians (STLs) these sorts of videos are so helpful! Please keep them coming!!
I’ve heard about Carthage my whole life but this is the most I’ve ever known about them. Thanks much.
Their ships are really strong in Civ 5.
Nah man, it's all about the Byzantium Dromon.
They are basically the worst civilisation in the game.
@@Crimea_Riverphoenician cothon buildings make all ships within a friendly sea tile full heal in one turn, if the dromon cant kill a phonician ship in one turn it will just heal
It's only a game.
IRL they had the best Navy in the Med. Dudes were going all over the Atlantic. And where the best traders.
And if you really wanna spaz out. There is an amount of evidence greater than 0 showing them/their ancestors mining in North America. Which is how the bronze age was able to happen
Can you do the Anglia and Celts next? I know the most requested will be either the Franks/Gauls but doing some of the less talked about enemies first would be cooler
Can't wait for more Metatron! This is without a doubt the most fascinating period of history for me.
Thank you for the wonderful video. For some reason there is a general lack of videos on the Phoenicians and Canaanites in general, so this was a very wonderful treat!
Just bonus commentary from a Lebanese person 😊:
-The Romans were losing until they realized how to achieve Phoenician maritime technology
-The story of Aeneas meeting Elissar/Dido is really cool when looking at how Rome was doomed because of a curse from it's very conception
- In Lebanon we still carry our ancestors stories of Dido and we actually call her Elissar (modern day Elishat)
- This one is a nitpick so dont have to bother reading it lol, the Phoencians are the ancestors of the Lebanese, and we are very proud of our ancient civilization, so it would be nice have mentioned specifically which country they originated
Why does someone need to specifically mention your country in a video that isn't about your country?
Can't you feel proud of your heritage without someone on social media causing it?
Actually it's pretty stunnig that rome was able to win the first punic war after they drowned there fleet two or three times because of a storm. They really wasn't good at the beginning at naval war😂😂😂
@@MichaelLewis-fx8eq it's not even related to their country. Carthaginians were 99% berbers
Hi Hassuna, now this next treat will keep you occupied for hours: th-cam.com/video/6dbdVhVSat8/w-d-xo.html
Yeah, I always thought Lebanese from trade city states of Tyre, Sidon etc. were ancestors of Phoenicians. No idea about Jews being included there too
Yes! A series on Carthage is much appreciated. When discussing the government of Carthage, I believe Aristotle also gave insight on its assembly, which he peculiarly thought to be the best system of statehood put to practice he knew of - A. believed the the strenths and weaknesses of monarchy, republic and aristocracy were checked and balanced with each other harmoniously in that Punic metropolis.
Loved the video. I am a roleplayer and I have done a few alternative history campaigns in which Carthage wins the Punic wars. I loved how the Carthage history was including more of European people and cultures. Yes Rome had so many different cultures in it, but it was absorbing conquered people, unlike Carthage.
Great video!! Just wanted to add to what you said about Greek influence. Don’t under estimate the cultural and military influence of Cyrene and Cyrenaica in general. Would love to see a video about this often forgotten and under looked Greek state btw! And of course, would love to see more about Carthage. -Laz
I am very interested in learning more about Carthage, from the origins to the end. Please make more videos. Thank you.
super interested about carthage. Only recently(about a couple months ago) did I realize/learn that these are actually the descendants (in part) of the Phoenicians, a people I already actually knew about, but was never told of the connection or relation between the two. Crazy stuff, I am a longtime history buff (main interest in Russian history due to heritage), but this is a complete novelty to me, so I love hearing about it.
Excellent!! Yes please continue to explore and explain the Mediterranean region. As a Spaniard, I would love to see you do a deep dive into the history of the Iberian peninsula. Going through the Visigoth period.
Carthage was one of my favorate civs to play in the civilization series!
Very interresting. The historical unbalance in telling the history of for example Rome vs Carthago is enourmus. Everybody learned a lot of the history of Rome, but Carthago is mainly reduced to a fotnote or just a name in history, so great that you add pieces to the puzzle. I hope you will make more of Carthago but why not a series of all former enemies/competition of Rome. It is also a way to better understand Rome.
Personally Julius Caesar is one of my heroes. Not that I like him as a person but he is so interresting in multiple ways. Starting of as a ”poor” noble, putting a lot on one card economically, argueing with Cicero in courts, and later convincing his troops by Rubicon (Caesar must have also been great in rethorics at the level of Cicero). His religious career as pontifex maximus etc. His diaries over Gallia as some of the first diaries as well as the importance from describing a bit of their culture. His obvious political greatnes mentioning his calender as an example, military skill obvious, and his feeling for the publictheater wearing his purple cloac. He is in many way a great charachter, even he obviously missed out on the poplitical anger against him in the end. I read Adrian Goldsworthys book about him long ago and got fascinated by the man and the time.
I just watched "Fall of Civilizations" Episode on Carthage - Empire of the Phoenicians a few days ago. It's very interesting and a historical warning against the decay of loyalty that goes along with any "melting pot"-experiments and against a libertarian state were money really equals power 1:1.
Fascinating. I look forward to a few more episodes on this subject. Can you also mention some sources?
concerning the Punic language and it similarity with Hebrew, I've read somewhere that Septimus Severus could still speak Punic as he had Punic ancestry and when he visited Jerusalem around 200 AD he was able to understand Hebrew and communicate with some locals.
St Augustine of Hippo (died AD 430), who was from North Africa, mentions that the country people of his day spoke "Punic" but called themselves "Canaanite" (which is of course what Phoenicians called themselves): Unde interrogati rustici nostri, quid sint, Punice respondentes: Chanani "For which reason our rustics, when asked what they are, [and] replying in Punic ‘Chanani’"
and people from Malta off the Sicily coast understand arabic related to hebrew. perhaps there's a connection there too
@@randomness_dictates_everything not easily but if I remember it was from a Jewish source (not Flavius Josephus for once! 😁)
I've been enamored with Carthage ever since I first heard of them less than a year ago. It's such a fascinating ancient civilization that most people know nothing about, but they seem to be gaining a lot of attention.
P.S. You can definitely see some Hebrew connections in their language. "Malk" is similar to "Malekh", which means king. Shofet is also similar to the Hebrew Shophetim, which means judges.
Actually it is more close to the Arabic word "Malik" which means king. The "kh" sound at the end of the word Malekh makes it more distant than the Arabic counterpart.
Were you born yesterday? Rome and Carthage are connected. The Punic wars made Rome
Actually I can tell you as a native Hebrew speaker, "Shofet" is not only similar to the corresponding Hebrew word it is the exact same word, "Shoftim" (or the way you wrote it "Shophetim") is the plural form of the singular form "Shofet" in Hebrew, so no difference, even the pronunciation is exactly how Raffi pronounced it.
@@litmeisteryou can see he has an american education, even worse probably a "christian" one, so basically fairy tales, but in general what american public schools teach about antiquity is miniscule, and the world history in general.
I'm from europe, we learn history chronologically, so yeah fifth grade is basically just antiquity, sixth the middle ages, seventh rennaisance and early modern age, so there comes the america in our curiculum, last year is modern age after the industrial revolution, so world wars, revolutions, decolonisation and so on, at least it was so some 35-40 years ago when i was in school, but yeah we learnt about the carthage and sumerians alike two years earlier than we learnt jefferson, luisiana or portugese empire in brasil.
But yeah besides rome itself carthage and macedonian empire are two most important parts, even greek-persian wars weren't that high on the list.
@@dannyboy-vtc5741 Did they teach you to be an ignorant bigot in your European schools, or did you learn that all on your own?
I am quite interested in learning more about other empires and political bodies from this period in history. Looking forward to an episode two on Carthege.
I would love to see an interview/discussion between Metatron and Mike Duncan about all things Rome.
I have to say Metatron, you've done it again. Great video and I'm eagerly awaiting to watch the whole series. Some years ago Italian archaeologists stumbled onto and dug up the battlefield of Himera. I hope that you can do a series of videos on this topic.
Can you do one on the Dacians? Would be interested in your perspective
I've been hoping you'd do a video about the Phoenicians and Carthage. This is fantastic.
Don't forget Baal Hamon, Tanit, post partum birth control. . .and more. I'm very interested in Carthage, and eagerly await your next installment, whatever it's gonna be about.
New subscriber here. I just love your proper grammar and the fact that you made the effort to edit your own video and correct where you missed saying ‘have’ before saying ‘been’ was pretty great.
Do the Hellenistic states next, or do all three separate. Antigonid macedon would be awesome
Yes! A series please. Generally speaking, you could make a series on any topic that is discussed on your channel.^^
Perfect timing!😂
I was just thinking of the Roman Empire.
Dziękujemy.
This is a great and very informative video.
Being a Hebrew speaker and hearing you say Malk which is too similar to Melech (מלך) and Shofet which is the same exact word, meaning, and pronunciation (שופט-judge). It's somewhat funny to hear how similar the two languages are.
The Golden Age of Solomon was the Age of Tyre and all the Canaanite languages. In the Assyrian Period Aramaic displaced all these, bar Punic and liturgical Hebrew: hence Ezekiel 28 laments Tyre as a former "guardian cherub...on the holy mount of God". Aristotle, c350BC, noted Carthaginians still called themselves Canaani (meaning the same as Greek 'Phoenician' - Purple People).
@@differous01 Thanks for the information I didn't know before.
I knew Hebrew was a Phoenician-based language that was later mixed with Aramic, but I didn't understand how similar the languages really were.
Also, it's quite interesting Carthaginians called themselves Canaani.
Because of their historical connection to Rome, I tend to forget how close they were and that they are among the Canaanite people.
purple people because of the techellet snail which produced purple dye?@@differous01
Have just very recently discovered this fascinating civilization. Please, we would love to see more!
Loved this episode and hope to see more on the enemies of Rome. Carthage, Gual, Germania, and even the eastern regions. Then later Huns and goths.
Wow amazing ! Will the Metatron ever do Romans vs Parthians ?
I can't wait for the next episode, thank you for the education that you provide us!
Intriguing, informative, entertaining and well-illustrated as always, Metatron, along with your excellent research and fair delivery. Grazie!
Yesss carthage! Been waiting for this. Reminds me of all those years spend on Rome Total War
Hope you can discuss more about Carthage especially their battles against Rome
Worth noting that "Malka" in Hebrew means queen. close resemblance to the Carthaginian word for their highest office, "Malk". Also as you said, it was founded by a woman. If we believe the origin story in any capacity, there could be a relation here. Also, "shofet" means judge in Hebrew too. Interesting video!
Carthaginians were white
@@jmgonzales7701 And Jews aren't?
MLK (without vowels) means “king” in Canaanite, the ancestral language of Hebrew and Phoenician (Punic is just a late dialect of Phoenician). If you know how to read Biblical Hebrew, it is not difficult to read Phoenician and Punic. (Prob. about the same of Spanish and Italian at most, if not closer.)
@@filmandfirearms never said jews arent white. They are white too.
@@jmgonzales7701
Carthaginians were Semites.
I very much enjoyed this episode! I'd love to have more.
Yes! We need more episodes about carthage!
Thank you so much for making a video about Carthage. Yet, I have a few points to it.
Aristotle writes that the Court of 104 was actually independent body from the senate. One of the works of the court 104 was for example judging unsuccesful military commanders in chief (which was a independent position - Rab Mahanet).
Another point I have is that Polybios of Megalopolis writes that Romans really started considering taking over Sicily after the succesfull Siege of Agrigentum. Romans also (from what I ever found) never said no to Mamertines. They dedlocked the senate on this matter form quite a while. Carthaginians also, while being a garison in Messana, neogatiated peace between the Mamertines and Syracuse. Situation changed, when Romans finally agreed to help Mamertines. Mamertines expelled carthaginian garison, invited the Romans, Carthage allied with Syracuse.....and war started.
Thank you for mentioning the treaties between Carthage and Rome (last being struck 8 years before the First Punic War). This is often overlooked aspect of Cartho-Roman relationship. Thank you so much for making this video.
Why did my mind immediately go to Patton's monologue in the ancient ruins? 😂😂😂
Because you have good taste in movies -- so did mine.
@@Darius-_ Watch Patton.
1 year ago OverSimplified made 2 videos about the battles between Rome and Carthage.
Part 3 has not come out yet, so seeing this for me is like a part 2.5 while I wait for part 3.
I love these history videos.
Metatron, will you ever make a video about the Varangian guard?
The more you do on Carthage the better my Vampire the Masquerade Antiquity campaign will be!
Thanks buddy!
Here before Jada Pinkett Smith.
We wuz tha reel Karthugonions
You must think about blks all day
Hiya Metatron sir!!!! I am unsure whether you've done it, but can we get a video on the ancient Gauls and their struggles with the SPQR? I'll forever be a teensy bit mad about how they treated tribal people in the vicinity of Rome. Thank you and much love!!!!
As a North African, I want to thank you very much for telling the truth about the skin color of our ancestors, thank you for not supporting the lies of black Africans
It’s not even sub-Saharan Africans, it’s mostly African Americans I’d say
Black *Americans* rather, no? Africans, i do believe, would know their history quite well.
Its Americans that have no history, black Americans are obssesed with Egypt and WT Americans are obssesed with Vikings when neither of them have any connection with the latter.
They lie most of the time, and a large portion of them, if not moat, have an adultery fettish. It's disgusting!
It would be americans who think like this because they only learn USA geography at school.
Are you making part 2? I found this very interesting.. i want to know more about the Carthigians, please. Can't wait to learn more
According to Hollywood, Nordicist Romans whith British accents fought Afrocentrist Carthagineans from Benin 😂
As you are studying brazilian portuguese, make a video about frogpoisoned arrows and other weapons from ancient Brazil, for example, used by Arariboia's army in Rio de Janeiro Battle. Please.
Excelent video! Regards from Brazil..
Is it just me or does the Carthaginian Senate sound almost identical to the Council system used by the Republic of Venice (with the Doge being the Malk, the Council of Ten taking decisions over the Grand Council, etc.)?
Elon Musk should fund a documentary about the last doge.
Highly recommend Paul Coopers fall of civilisation podcast as it is incredibly well researched
I would love a 20 episodes série about Carthago
Can`t wait for it to continue!
BBC says they were blacks and Romans were black too
BBC are clowns
For those interested in naval battles and the like, Drachinifel has a video out on the naval battles between Rome and Carthage.
Carthage has always fascinated me. Unlike Hellenic powers that gave up after 1, 2 or even 3 battles against Rome, the Punics were able to stand toe to toe against Rome in it's youthful prime, and pump out just as many men as Rome did into the meat grinder. This is not even including the Mediterranean's greatest General, Hannibal Barca who is just as interesting and just as great as Alexander the Great.
Go team Carthage, the only true rival to the Roman Republic!
do you think china would have beaten rome
@@jmgonzales7701 Considering China wasn't unified at the time, just a collection of small states that were constantly warring amongst each other, I highly doubt it
Don't be so sure on that. Rome wasn't unified either as it had not yet conquered Sicily, Carthage, or Greece during this time. A good comparable strength for China to Rome would be State of Qin, which ended up unifying all of China, just as Rome had with all of the Mediterranean.
During the Qin conquest of Zhao, the Qin were able to muster a force of 550,000 soldiers into their ranks and were able to defeat a Zhao army of 450,000 at the battle of Changping in 260 B.C. These numbers are huge, but also keep in mind that China holds a very large area of Earth, the states of Qin and Zhao, although small compared to the rest of China, were still huge, wealthy, and powerful enough to expel external threats.
I am not going to say who will win, but I can say both the Qin and Roman Republic were very capable people in terms of logistics, warfare, and adaptation. @@filmandfirearms
@@filmandfirearms the germanic groups were not a unified states but they beat rome not only that they got rome too.
This was an absolute treat to watch. Thank you
First time I learned about Carthage as a whole--not just about Hannibal--was also when I realized just how potent the Roman propaganda machine was. Anything that had at least a small grain of truth to it was stretched out and twisted to make the Carthaginians look as bad as possible. They need more recognition. Much more.
I mean, they did practice child sacrifice, but I guess that's okay.
@@Sdroalaun They did. And that was the only thing they were known for because of that.
can you please do a video on phoenicians/canaanites?
Another splendid episode . Well done metatron . Always found Rome fascinating and therefore her enemies are also fascinating . But it just proves how Mediterranean was mixing pot from Greeks to Libyans to Phoenicians to Egyptian to Celts to Berbers to southern Africans . I hope you do more episodes on Carthage .
Small minority lived there. I never said massive amounts purely that it was mixing pot which it was . Prove me wrong . If this is not correct
except north africans were white
What stupid response . I never said North African were black . I said it mixing pot . They’re black libyians but a minority !
@@danmitchell1955Southern Africans like my ancestors weren't in Carthage they were too far away deep in the continent. I'm guessing you mean black or Sub Saharan? If so, yes some likey from Central Africa and Western African Sahel region were there. The Phoenician Scarab Corpus signet rings and other art shows that as do human remains. But the majority were Amazigh and Phoenician.
I meant people from below Sahara so that be correct and I did say it be in minority I never said it be great but clearly it being people in closer proximity as they did not cars or airplanes or transport that get them there in hours . It been weeks
You are among the top 5 on TH-cam in regards to faithfulness to history
As a Carthaginian, I approve this message. 👍
Carthago delenda est!!!
@@Jordi_Llopis_i_Torregrosa96 I’m not Tunisian
@@Jordi_Llopis_i_Torregrosa96 Carthaginians were mostly local north africans. The Levantines Phoenicians were a minority, as you heard from Metatron, they bought the land but were traders and just a few soldiers instead of colonizers.
@@Jordi_Llopis_i_Torregrosa96 nigga thinks that about 500 people from the Levant were basically carthage.
@ayhamkimo4488 It would need a large immigration to north africa, something that did not happen because Carthage population was not big. Their army was mostly mercenaries, unlike Roman army.
Also, not everyone followed the Phoenician culture. This is clear because of the funerals, Phoenician would cremate the dead but still didn't do it because they were locals. Phoenician were not like the greeks who had a bigger population and colonized many places. Phoenicians were traders and if you think most just followed Dido to colonize, you are wrong.
Metatron,
thank you for your dedication to historical accuracy, learning, and celebration of history in all its travails and glory
How about doing an alternate history about what if Carthage won the Punic Wars and conquered Rome?
Difficult. They had a different policy, a melting pot rather than an expanding empire. They would have had a much lesser influence on later times.
@@ThePerfectRedpolicies are fluid. Rome was a republic before it was an empire.
Did you see Cody's What if Rome never existed?
@@tomzhouschannel968no. Is it on youtube?
@@ctam79I think the channel is called Alternatehistoryhub, but that might be their second channel 👍🏻
Man, it never ceases to amaze me how entertaining you can be while teaching history, kudos.
I would love more episodes like this
I wonder how often Metatron thinks about the Roman Empire
As always, great video! I would love more videos on Carthage in general. Perhaps the Punic wars from the perspective of Carthage? Most videos I have seen covering it focuses mostly on the roman "reaction" (for a lac of a better word) to the conflict.
Even the Ancient Greeks recognized that the Carthaginians had developed a form of democracy.
Nice video and history simplified yet detailed.
But can you also tackle the topic of roman identity? Who is a roman on certain period of time?
Older brother: This is my kingdom now. Go play with your dolls or something.
Sister: *Founds Carthage*
Older brother: ....Well done, sis. I didn't expect that...
Yes!!! More episodes. I studied all this at school, but you make it more accessible. Please make the entire series.