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  • Carthage was Rome's equal, rival and almost her conqueror. In 146 BC Roman general Scipio destroyed the city of Carthage so painstakingly and utterly that not a single building was left standing.
    What did the Romans so fear about the Carthaginians that in the end they would be prompted to the most terrible acts of reprisal in the ancient world? A new archaeological dig by Dr Richard Miles of Cambridge University, penetrates the burned layer of this Roman holocaust and uncovers fresh evidence.
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  • @TimelineChannel
    @TimelineChannel  4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

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    • @mamiamracha353
      @mamiamracha353 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is a close battle that the Prophet Muhammad told us about is the battle of Dabiq, it is an area near the Levant in Palestine, where the battlefield will be between the Romans and Muslims. Romanians, Westerners or Easters, for example, are they currently from Europe, America or Russia, but according to the opinion of scholars and researchers, some agreed that what is meant is uncle from Russia and what proves this blame, they control the Middle East because the Islamic caliphate is not established to defend the Arabs and Muslims

    • @yolamontalvan9502
      @yolamontalvan9502 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It would have been cooled if the host was dressed up as a Roman soldier.

    • @heitoreduardodiasvieira7031
      @heitoreduardodiasvieira7031 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Cornelia Fulmore 5t⁰

    • @michaelsolari7371
      @michaelsolari7371 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      U

    • @michaelsolari7371
      @michaelsolari7371 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Uu

  • @hhattingh
    @hhattingh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +312

    When Rome said something needs to be destroyed they really meant it.

    • @yolamontalvan9502
      @yolamontalvan9502 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Donald Trump, the Death Cult President, is trying to do the same. Unfortunately for him, he’s in the wrong country.

    • @miguelpereira9859
      @miguelpereira9859 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      @@yolamontalvan9502 You're a weirdo

    • @1994CPK
      @1994CPK 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      @@yolamontalvan9502 imagine thinking about trump 24/7. He's your whole life. Rent free

    • @yolamontalvan9502
      @yolamontalvan9502 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      1994CPK - Trump is in the 6 o’clock news every day. Do you watch the news?

    • @1994CPK
      @1994CPK 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@yolamontalvan9502 never cable news, this isn't the 1960s anymore.

  • @ChannelRandomMy
    @ChannelRandomMy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I love how the phrase "Delenda est Carthago" is constantly switched around (i.e. Carthago delenda est) by historians. Everyone agrees Cato said it about one million times, but nobody can agree on what order this 3 word sentence goes in.

    • @reidmartin6209
      @reidmartin6209 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I might be wrong but I think Latin is a highly inflected language so it means the same thing no matter the order
      That being said, true

    • @user-ly4yp8ml2i
      @user-ly4yp8ml2i 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah I've wondered loads of times.

    • @charlesbyrne71
      @charlesbyrne71 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I thought order didn't matter.

  • @malcolmmcintyre100
    @malcolmmcintyre100 6 ปีที่แล้ว +674

    Someone needs to make a film series about the the Punic Wars.

    • @cejka30
      @cejka30 5 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Or Hannibal crossing the alps!

    • @joshlanier8567
      @joshlanier8567 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I think Sean Kingston should do the series. Last i heard he was at war.

    • @hrthrhs
      @hrthrhs 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      There is one. I watched it on youtube a couple years ago. If i come across it I'll holla.

    • @justevil100
      @justevil100 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@hrthrhs Any luck locating it?

    • @uspatriots877
      @uspatriots877 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      There is one

  • @aliencat8556
    @aliencat8556 5 ปีที่แล้ว +484

    Why do you keep showing the statue of Constantine over and over again? He was born 500 years after the Punic wars

    • @raymonddeflaviis9532
      @raymonddeflaviis9532 5 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      He is a millennial SJW. Everything he believes must be taken with a grain of salt.

    • @lonw.7016
      @lonw.7016 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agree>!

    • @Insectoid_
      @Insectoid_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Raymond DeFlaviis um. What

    • @overseer3072
      @overseer3072 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      alien cat 😂

    • @StopFear
      @StopFear 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@raymonddeflaviis9532 Raymond, you are an ignorant cretin

  • @nidhalben5001
    @nidhalben5001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    as a Tunisian I'm proud of my heritage and history , thank you for this

    • @inri247
      @inri247 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Carthage wasn't tunisian wdym

    • @barcak1912
      @barcak1912 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@inri247 a significant part of Ancient Carthage is now in modern day Tunisia

    • @alikechiche9947
      @alikechiche9947 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@inri247Carthage is Tunis 😅

    • @tameredanslederriere
      @tameredanslederriere 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@barcak1912 he is referring to the ethnicity of the people not the geography.. genetically speaking modern day lebanese is the closer you got to the carthaginians!

    • @wankawanka3053
      @wankawanka3053 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@barcak1912 turks have a bunch of ancient greek stuff in their country so that suddenly makes them greek?

  • @snoremans6248
    @snoremans6248 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Hannibal didn´t take Rome because he knew it would be impossible to subdue such a city with the army he had under his command. Even if he entered it the population was simply to big to effectively subdue.

  • @neotheresa
    @neotheresa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    “This isn’t some schmuck in a flak jacket” is the *funniest* thing I’ve ever heard

    • @The_ZeroLine
      @The_ZeroLine 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      When/where was that said?

  • @MrAbzu
    @MrAbzu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +607

    How anyone can talk about Hannibal in Italy without covering the battle of Cannae is beyond me.

    • @tonymullins6627
      @tonymullins6627 5 ปีที่แล้ว +114

      Rome's worse defeat ever, about 60,000 killed (in one day of battle.) Hannibal was a military genius.

    • @keyboarddancers7751
      @keyboarddancers7751 5 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      Best to watch this first: "Hannibal: The Man Who Hated Rome"; it's all there.

    • @jaroslavpenkava5525
      @jaroslavpenkava5525 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Where Is Waldo My favorite, In time when beat Hanibal he been just 23 years old I thing.

    • @samray3297
      @samray3297 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Hannibal was Phoenician, from Carthage.

    • @jaroslavpenkava5525
      @jaroslavpenkava5525 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@samray3297 Scipius Africanus

  • @meweaz3
    @meweaz3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I can't get enough of Timeline on Rome. Well done

  • @arunanand2809
    @arunanand2809 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    You love Carthaginians, you love history and your commentary is excellent. Thanks.

  • @paulvmarks
    @paulvmarks 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    When Carthage failed to take over Sicily it signed its own long term Death Warrant - for without Sicily Carthage would lack population (farming citizen-soldier population). The move from a citizen army (mentioned by Aristotle - in the old days no one could vote in Carthage unless they had first undertaken military service), to a mercenary army that could defeat Rome in battles - but never, in the end, in a war. The Carthaginians had been appalled by their losses in the wars with the Greeks in Sicily - but, by trying to avoid losses (by turning away from a citizen-soldier culture) the Carthaginians made sure that, in the end, their losses would be TOTAL.
    Ironically the Romans themselves turned away from a culture of citizen soldiers - thus signing its own long term Death Warrant.

    • @Charlie-ii5rr
      @Charlie-ii5rr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That may be, but the disasters in the Cimbri wars exposed the weakness of the militia system and led to the Marian reforms.

    • @brohan914
      @brohan914 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Charlie-ii5rr Yup. Professionals will always be superior to citizen-soldiers. They key is keeping the generals loyal...

    • @Cleeon
      @Cleeon 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      But the problems with soldiers who work only as soldiers, their loyalty not always for the motherland or fatherland, but with who pay the salary and guarantee their or their family life, which is general or just who pay them handsomely.

  • @529wes
    @529wes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Timeline left out the influence of the ancient Greek colonies throughout the Mediterranean and their interaction with Rome and Italy as well as the Hellenistic influence on both Rome and Carthage. I was hoping to see a lot more in terms of Carthage's founding and early development.

  • @laurelanne5071
    @laurelanne5071 5 ปีที่แล้ว +495

    LMAO at the people in the comments saying this doc is "biased," that's the whole point -- traditionally we always get the Roman version, which is just as biased. Let the man tell the other side for once

    • @fuzzles9246
      @fuzzles9246 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      yeah well everything this doc said is actually facts, yet people used to Roman version, but there was a roman governor of carthage after the war kinda liked carthage and said it was wrong to erase carthage from history, he revolted against his emperor and took his place, he orderd the reconstruction of carthage and to write down whats known about the original carthage yet the roman version is itselfe biased, but thanks to other civilizations like greece and others confirmed or denied the stories and who kept whats known about carthage. yet history is written by victors .

    • @tadhgknight3484
      @tadhgknight3484 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      FEZZ_HH
      And that governed would’ve had flawed info as well, because to revolt against an emperor (not a republic) he’d had to of done it at least 100 years after Carthage’s erasion

    • @fuzzles9246
      @fuzzles9246 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@tadhgknight3484 Exactly, Erasing something then trying to tell it with another way wont be the same, THEY even tried to rebuild Carthage and wasnt even close to the original one.

    • @lucasstemba
      @lucasstemba 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I don't mind the bias but there are some bits where the bias borders on unfactual. I.e. calling rome imperial when rome was far from an empire and and calling Cato a xenophobe when I have never heard anything to support he cared about race.

    • @laurelanne5071
      @laurelanne5071 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@lucasstemba xenophobia isn't about race, it's hating what is foreign. Imperialism, pure and simple, is invading other territories to profit from them as well as imposing your culture on the occupied areas, and that's what Rome was about since day 1.

  • @spiritualanarchist8162
    @spiritualanarchist8162 2 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    A bit simplistic. Rome as the evil thugs versus Carthago as the noble victim. At the end of the day they were two major powers fighting over the same territory.

    • @Cybernaut551
      @Cybernaut551 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I agree.

    • @parjanyashukla176
      @parjanyashukla176 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Carthage might have been imperialist as well, but Rome was no doubt a ruthless, savage empire. There is no comparison between the two.
      One is able to make this judgement only if you examine the world history in comparison, comparing and contrasting various societies.

    • @jonnyanderson8845
      @jonnyanderson8845 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@parjanyashukla176,Rome was remembered as ruthless only because they won all 3 wars, but what would have happened if they had lost? In Carthage, there was children sacrifice for the sake of the harvest, unlike the ancient Rome

  • @darwinqpenaflorida3797
    @darwinqpenaflorida3797 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    In 1996,almost 2,100 years of Punic Wars,a symbolic peace treaty was signed between the mayor of Rome and Tunis where Carthage was under a district jurisdiction marked the end of rivalry of 2 cities even it was changed on the time but also Italy and Tunisia are allies

    • @isaiahcalderon366
      @isaiahcalderon366 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So did Athens and Sparta 2,000+ years after the whole issue

    • @darwinqpenaflorida3797
      @darwinqpenaflorida3797 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@isaiahcalderon366 Yes that same year a peace treaty was signed between the mayors of Athens and Sparta, both in modern day Greece 🇬🇷

  • @therealtoni
    @therealtoni 5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Love , love, love all the history I can find!

    • @daveyhouston
      @daveyhouston 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too

    • @patriciacole8773
      @patriciacole8773 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I like the book “ The Great Controversy “ by e.g. White it’s from a religious perspective but covers before earth to eternity. Covers everything in between. It’s said to be in the White House and distributed widely to politicians and royals and as many people as possible. In my opinion it’s the best information known to mankind.

  • @philtanics1082
    @philtanics1082 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    38:45 Boat named "Hannibal" , that's awesome.

  • @learning.growing.1017
    @learning.growing.1017 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    My 23andme test results line up with everything I've been studying about carthage and the Pheonicians. My last name is Cartagena, and as a Christian, I also learned about the dark practices of the Pheonicians, like Jezebel for example, and can tell that my ancestors may have also dabbled in dark practices. Learning all of this is so eye-opening and refreshing.

    • @bethbartlett5692
      @bethbartlett5692 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You understand that the Roman Emperor Constatine (the guy that established the Religion) and his Priests made edits to the texts and the Roman Religion isn't what Jesus/Yeshua was teaching + he was a Practicing Jew and a Rabbi.
      It takes the History of the era, and an open mind + time to explore.
      Just your choice, to be Religion or to search for what Jesus taught.
      Either way, as long as you have clarity, are positively supported by your beliefs, and realize your self worth, ✓
      Positive is absent of fear.
      Religion and then there's our personal, spiritual, experience and practice. Religion is organized and established by man, your spiritual is your direct link to God, Creator, Source of all.
      Take your time and trust your intuition and logic. Jesus will Guide you to what you seek, just ask and trust.
      😘

    • @98Zai
      @98Zai 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Most of your ancestors lived long before Jesus was born. Whatever happened to your ancestors, they were doing the best the could with whatever tools they had. The reputation they received came from the people who stood to gain from it. People in those times loved to embellish themselves compared to "the others" - savages, barbarians etc. Carthaginians did the same to Rome.

  • @bluesloverz
    @bluesloverz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you, Dr. Miles. You brought the story to life.

  • @cheriefsadeksadek2108
    @cheriefsadeksadek2108 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    4:43 Damn that sounds so cool It makes you sad about Carthage too

    • @cheriefsadeksadek2108
      @cheriefsadeksadek2108 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Dan Dman it was burnt for 18 days they say

    • @rayenderbali1181
      @rayenderbali1181 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      💔💔💔💔💔💔💔

    • @sanahirosplatoon6459
      @sanahirosplatoon6459 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Carthage let itself be destroyed, they were too modern for their own good.

  • @Sybreed1986
    @Sybreed1986 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Love this series & love learning bout Rome, thank you for this documentary, keep it up :)

  • @PeterWalkerHP16c
    @PeterWalkerHP16c 5 ปีที่แล้ว +165

    Each boat was marked
    *ίκεα*

    • @mamamarianovits9029
      @mamamarianovits9029 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Peter Walker
      I have finally reached that part of the presentation.. and I finally understand your comment, which I read as it started.😂

    • @spudwesth
      @spudwesth 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      No.

    • @maverikmiller6746
      @maverikmiller6746 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That joke cracked up me. Thanks man :)

    • @hueym.3950
      @hueym.3950 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Έλα άλλος ένας Έλληνας 🤭😂🇬🇷

    • @mamiamracha353
      @mamiamracha353 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is a close battle that the Prophet Muhammad told us about is the battle of Dabiq, it is an area near the Levant in Palestine, where the battlefield will be between the Romans and Muslims. Romanians, Westerners or Easters, for example, are they currently from Europe, America or Russia, but according to the opinion of scholars and researchers, some agreed that what is meant is uncle from Russia and what proves this blame, they control the Middle East because the Islamic caliphate is not established to defend the Arabs and Muslims

  • @zamzamazawarma928
    @zamzamazawarma928 6 ปีที่แล้ว +173

    The Carthaginians were hated by the Greeks long before the Romans entered the scene. The Punic were seen as an evil race. Some of it comes from their (occasional) human sacrifices, which both the Romans and the Greeks had in disgust, but there's more. For example, sentencing your best general to crucifixion just because he's too popular with his mercenary troops after a victorious campaign in the name of Carthage. It happened more than once. Even the great Hannibal, he went to exile not because of the Romans but because the Carthaginian senate really were a crazy ungrateful untrustworthy bunch.
    Now that I think of it, I know of another crazy bunch like that: the Venitians. These merchant people just don't play by the rules.
    (I have great admiration for Carthage, I just like to play the devil's advocate.)

    • @hamilcarbarca946
      @hamilcarbarca946 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      That is the romain misinformation ! for greeks you should read politics written by aristotle chapter 8. Carthaginians had war with greeks but olso treaties

    • @marypoppins2044
      @marypoppins2044 5 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      "Occasional" human sacrifices? What about the 20,000 clay jars of burnt infants left behind in Carthage? Carthage was destroyed, but the Phoenicians had cities all over the Mediterranean coastlines. Then the Phoenician alphabet (modified) was in Rome. Then the Phoenician survivors fled to Venice and Genoa. Before they were known as Phoenicians, they lived in present-day Lebanon and we're called Caanites. Same folks, still no better behaved.

    • @isismccain915
      @isismccain915 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      One of the nastiest things the Venetians ever did was pitching in on the capture of Constantinople in 1204 in what was supposed to be the 4th Crusade.
      They sacked & pillaged Constantinople of anything of value, much of it going to Venice where those golden horses (still on display in Venice) were given to the "dogie".......one of the biggest traitors ever to Western Civilization, right behind the No. 1 traitor.......big Nick Ducas of Byzantium (1071 AD).

    • @2serveand2protect
      @2serveand2protect 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ..."fides punica"...

    • @XtoCee
      @XtoCee 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It seems as if every foreign nation disliked the Phoenicians. The Ancient Israelites despised them, conquered them in Canaan (which was modern-day Israel/Palestine) and founded Israel.

  • @duanemcclure8324
    @duanemcclure8324 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thanks for the upload! I never really knew the history behind this. When it was mentioned in Gladiator, I never understood what it was about. Now I get it!

  • @NathanHarrison7
    @NathanHarrison7 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Absolutely wonderful. Now only if all history lessons could be this informative and entertaining.

  • @undeadnightorc
    @undeadnightorc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    A 15 year campaign in Rome. That's literally enough time for boys to grow up to become soldiers, more than enough time to create entire new armies consisting of a new generation of soldiers. Hannibal's own soldiers would have started to hit middle-age at the end of the Italian campaign. There was no way Hannibal was ever going to defeat Rome by himself after that length of time.

    • @randomhistoryfan5749
      @randomhistoryfan5749 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thats right, technically after cannae, Hannibal suffered heavy losses and he calculated that even if hen tried sieging Rome another army would be assembled to end him for good. His men were very low on morale and exhausted, Rome just kept on sending armies, sadly even if we would make excuses, Carthage and Hannibal could not have winned the 2nd punic war.

    • @hydrolito
      @hydrolito 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      England and France had a war that lasted 116 years although called 100 year war.

    • @user-ly4yp8ml2i
      @user-ly4yp8ml2i 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@hydrolito😂❤

  • @perlefisker
    @perlefisker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for this.
    Very well-produced, indeed.

  • @karenotte5420
    @karenotte5420 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I appreciate you and your passion and love for history thank you for doing this for us

  • @KittyKat6931
    @KittyKat6931 7 ปีที่แล้ว +306

    As a Tunisian, it warms my heart to find such beautiful documentaries acknowledging the greatness of the Carthaginian civilisation. Great upload, you got yourselves a new subscriber! :)

    • @maxyakov273
      @maxyakov273 7 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      It was great! But weren't they completely eradicated? If so, what is your connection to them?

    • @JoshuaAntonioLouisJacques
      @JoshuaAntonioLouisJacques 7 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      there is no connection....as usual trying to take credit for the real civilizations that preceeded them for eg persia,egypt etc

    • @triarii11
      @triarii11 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Tunisia's cool, of what I know.....Wisconsin USA.

    • @Alpha-xt6ow
      @Alpha-xt6ow 7 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      maxyakov she is more connected to them than you can ever be.

    • @KittyKat6931
      @KittyKat6931 7 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      maxyakov If you paid attention to the documentary, it said that around 50,000 of them were spared and were enslaved by the romans. In any case, even if I'm not a direct descendant of the Carthaginians, they are still a big part of our history.
      JALJ3011 Wow, I never knew you were the official authority on "real civilizations".. I do believe historians and archeologists wouldn't be bothered studying a "fake civilization" now, would they? But I wonder how this "taking credit" you're talking about happens, even though the civilizations you mentioned took place year and miles away from the Carthage/Rome incident. Remember, we're talking about the west Mediterranean here.

  • @jdb47games
    @jdb47games 5 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    The current senate house was built a century after the Punic wars, so it is wrong to claim Cato spoke from those benches.

    • @davebox588
      @davebox588 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes, I think that's the Curia Julia that was started during Caesar's dictator years but not completed until after his death in 44 BCE. The previous one was nearly on the same spot though.

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    @LeviUlysses-mp5wg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +74

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    • @thathistoryiscoolguy
      @thathistoryiscoolguy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Imagine if morgz mad this video

    • @tonycunha1847
      @tonycunha1847 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I pay for TH-cam. Cheap money. I barely watch TV though so I may have a different opinion than many on here.

    • @carlosmedina9708
      @carlosmedina9708 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fast forward rewinde & walaaas

  • @Jack_Stafford
    @Jack_Stafford 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Would it not have made sense for Carthage to see the writing on the wall, pledge allegiance to Rome and become a prosperous city-state within the Roman Empire? They could have kept their culture that way while also assimilating the best parts of Roman sophistication.
    No context at all is provided, I don't believe Rome would invest that much money and manpower to destroy a large city on another continent for no reason at all.

    • @seraphx26
      @seraphx26 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      After two wars against Carthage the Romans realized the necessity of it's destruction, Rome had come to view it as an existential threat that could not be tolerated.
      How long after the scenario that you propose would it take for Carthage to rebuild and once again seize an opportunity to challenge Rome? there was room for only one dominant power in the mediterranean.

  • @batbrain7295
    @batbrain7295 4 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    And now let us switch over to the history experts in the comment section:

  • @ccole5386
    @ccole5386 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What a wonderful channel and series of programs. I love the host as well, excellent voice and cadence.

  • @bobzdar9442
    @bobzdar9442 6 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    That was great. Thank you. Your prononciation is also really good for my English practice.

    • @kevin6293
      @kevin6293 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The English don’t speak English correctly. Learn from north Americans.

    • @lucnilis6622
      @lucnilis6622 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@kevin6293 lmaooooooo

    • @godfreybett1370
      @godfreybett1370 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kevin6293 😂😂😂

  • @echelonanglo2226
    @echelonanglo2226 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Lol this guy tells history this way:
    "Carthage were minding their business happily making money of their trade routes and singing along in camp fires, while suddenly, a greedy, violent evil monster without scruples rose up to steal and kill them all...a monster named...Rome!"

    • @D0wnshift
      @D0wnshift 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Pretty much.

    • @johnjobs3027
      @johnjobs3027 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Another young white indoctrinated to loath western civilization and prop up any inferior culture or society as the greatest in history. It wasn't history, but rather cheerleading.

    • @matiusbond6052
      @matiusbond6052 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      YES ROME WAS A MONSTER

    • @echelonanglo2226
      @echelonanglo2226 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@matiusbond6052 just like any other civilization at the time by today standards...they were just better at it than the rest

    • @selena9527
      @selena9527 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rome is monster cuz it ruined the all city and architects of carthage

  • @johnsimpson4009
    @johnsimpson4009 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really enjoyed this ... Very well done 👍

  • @charjl96
    @charjl96 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I didn't know Robert Webb presented history docs

  • @gmcmurr0
    @gmcmurr0 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great documentary, Jez!

  • @kfernandes268
    @kfernandes268 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Superb video. Thank you..I've always wondered what was the true story.
    Well presented.

  • @RC-zr7lp
    @RC-zr7lp 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    "Carthage was the tutor who's feet Rome learned the art of Empire. So powerful it stood in the way of Rome's greatness." 5:50.
    Chills. Love this documentary!

  • @k1er4n544
    @k1er4n544 7 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    yet another great upload thanks again :)

  • @Earthspirit1147
    @Earthspirit1147 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fascinating. Lots of detail I've heard nowhere else.
    I'll watch P1 and P2 more than once.

  • @stevecarte8520
    @stevecarte8520 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely fantastic documentary. Thank you

  • @johndizo3551
    @johndizo3551 5 ปีที่แล้ว +297

    Carthage still so salty

    • @WorkerBeesUnite
      @WorkerBeesUnite 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      I know. To this day you still can't even talk to one of them about it wink face

    • @ReasonAboveEverything
      @ReasonAboveEverything 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      golden shadow Well, from heavenly wealthy might that dominated the mediterranea to erased among civilisations. What would you expect.

    • @abrahamgarza537
      @abrahamgarza537 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      🤣😂

    • @daveyhouston
      @daveyhouston 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And peppery too but I prefer mustard

    • @mjhmab
      @mjhmab 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I live in Carthage now and sometimes i think how would this place would be if they beat the romans .

  • @goodoldblighty7481
    @goodoldblighty7481 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Let this be a lesson for all empires,the elites are nearly always responsible for their empires downfall.

    • @genericname1366
      @genericname1366 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Bernie Sanders.

    • @thorthegodofthunder9150
      @thorthegodofthunder9150 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@genericname1366 Mhm yup, Sanders is definitely the elite and Jeff Bezos isn't. Absolutely.

  • @BopWalk
    @BopWalk ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is why I treasure my Carthaginian coins. History of an Empire seen as an ultimate alternative history empire is very significant.

  • @DarkGlass824
    @DarkGlass824 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    220 ships in just 45 days!?!?! That's incredible!

  • @KeithShuler
    @KeithShuler 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great program I just wish it was longer.

  • @johnnunya5428
    @johnnunya5428 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I can't stop thinking of That Mitchell and Webb Look. He is constantly walking at the camera!

    • @Ligerpride
      @Ligerpride 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha. Brilliant. Watch the football!!

  • @alexandrem9326
    @alexandrem9326 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great work!

  • @clivedavies6794
    @clivedavies6794 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really really good luv it, more please.

  • @BattlestarDamocles
    @BattlestarDamocles 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I love this doc, thank you!

  • @jameshanson4048
    @jameshanson4048 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Another Great video of the day! Imagine if the Senate had sent the seige equipment, Hannibal ordered?

  • @mhintrepid
    @mhintrepid 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    A much-needed perspective beyond the warped historical version of the "victors" The forgotten stories of the vanquished must be heard if we are to understand humanity. This is a superb documentary.

  • @Pulsonar
    @Pulsonar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Hannibal at Cannae?? I was staggered that for a presenter eager to tell the Carthaginian story he barely mentioned Hannibal’s incredible military supremacy in winning all battles in Europe including his total annihilation of the Romans at Cannae! It was arguably the most brilliant, and bloody victory by any military leader in the ancient world and ranks up there with Alexs victory against Darius at Guagemala and against Porus at Hydaspes. Hannibal’s only defeat was at Zama, supported by the treachery of his own people.

    • @lddcavalry
      @lddcavalry 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pulsonar This wasn’t written by a historian.

    • @morgothvikramaditya4977
      @morgothvikramaditya4977 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Porus didn’t lose to Alexander, that is a lie

    • @Pulsonar
      @Pulsonar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Morgoth The Real MVP Alexanders Macedonian army and Indian allies defeated King Porus in 326 BC at the Hydapses River. This is not propaganda it is fact, recorded in the Anabasis by some of the most famous historians in antiquity. Alexander was tested to the max and was nearly killed it that engagement, the closest he came to defeat in over a decade of conquest across Asia.

    • @giantgrowth4204
      @giantgrowth4204 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      His calvary was godlike

    • @cantbanme792
      @cantbanme792 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      there was a whole documentary on it, this one is about the fall.

  • @TheAto2000
    @TheAto2000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I read about this when I was a kid(I was a fan of ancient Roman history), but forgot about it after all these nearly thirty years. It's an unfortunate part of history, and I still wonder why the Carthaginians deserved this punishment.

    • @user-ly4yp8ml2i
      @user-ly4yp8ml2i 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      According to historian Tristan Erwin in The Cults of Moloch and Baal--no I can't spoil it for you. But he gives the reason with lots of Roman references. Very interesting.

  • @patb5266
    @patb5266 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nice, Phillip Glass as part of soundtrack!!

  • @numberslettersass
    @numberslettersass 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are correct IMO. Great information and presentation.

  • @perrycomeau2627
    @perrycomeau2627 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Dr. Miles.

  • @Jaegertiger
    @Jaegertiger 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    D E V A S T A T E = Destroy to the uttermost.... this is the operative word that Rome deployed against the Carthaginians in order to annihilate them and assure that they would NEVER rebuild / re-populate Carthage. Not only did Rome destroy all of Carthage's buildings, but they sowed the soil with salt so Carthage could NOT grow any crops. Rome accomplished its survival purpose as demonstrated by the fact that there was never a 4th Punic War.... objective undeniably fulfilled.

  • @reynoldgreenleaf6368
    @reynoldgreenleaf6368 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Interesting documentary, but it should be noted that Carthaginian civilization did not disappear with the destruction of Carthage itself. Many Punic cities survived long after the bloodshed and prospered under Roman rule while maintaining much of the culture of their Phoenician ancestors.

    • @sscxcc8053
      @sscxcc8053 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly this is clear misinformation!

    • @tt3p9
      @tt3p9 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes it wasn't a genocidal attack to exterminate all Carthaginians.

    • @bilelmliki8475
      @bilelmliki8475 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We still breathing and we are here the carthaginians 🇹🇳🇹🇳

    • @Hborn
      @Hborn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How much was a slave there

  • @JJmetaphysics
    @JJmetaphysics 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love you timeline !

  • @4comment0nly76
    @4comment0nly76 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is all overstated

  • @arzuarzu2903
    @arzuarzu2903 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    They needed photon cannons and Protoss Carriers to defend the city.

  • @thatonecraftywitch1001
    @thatonecraftywitch1001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great documentary so far, very informative but can we talk about why no one has noticed that this narrator is absolutely gorgeous and his voice goes through my ears like liquid silk? I could listen to him talk forever. Can i have him? To read me old literature until i fall asleep every night?

  • @mitchmichaelcoburn1577
    @mitchmichaelcoburn1577 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant stuff.

  • @t.7721
    @t.7721 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love you Timeline

  • @Vicky-cq4lc
    @Vicky-cq4lc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Ads breaker....Forward till the end before play the video....
    Will only have 1 ads than playback the video....

    • @bobbiec6074
      @bobbiec6074 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Legend!

    • @dave9401
      @dave9401 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Do you mean click the replay button or move the time scroll back to the start? If this works youve saved me from many frustrations.

    • @Vicky-cq4lc
      @Vicky-cq4lc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dave9401 yup....
      Bt u'll get 1 add at the end....
      Hope it works well for u....

    • @kevin6293
      @kevin6293 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      # Vicky, that wasn’t a yes or no question, lol.

    • @Vicky-cq4lc
      @Vicky-cq4lc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kevin6293 🙁

  • @romandarius6041
    @romandarius6041 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Let me explain this Italian Style: You hit us, we hit back!

    • @TheCipheric
      @TheCipheric 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Roman Darius didn’t see that style in world wars 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @wankawanka3053
      @wankawanka3053 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Didn't work so well in ww2 for you

    • @romandarius6041
      @romandarius6041 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wankawanka3053 , Britain Won, right?
      So explain this: 1. Britain is still paying off the debt of World War 2. 2. Britain has lost all of their colonies! 3. Britain is now being colonized. (In 50 years, the British White People will be a minority in their own country, they are being replaced!)

  • @loupiscanis9449
    @loupiscanis9449 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you .

  • @Eazy-ERyder
    @Eazy-ERyder ปีที่แล้ว

    I love these!

  • @melissajackson79
    @melissajackson79 5 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    You missed a few key details, after his first major victory, one of Hannable's allies insisted that he head right for Rome, use that victory to it's fullest and take Rome while its stunned and demoralized. Hannibal knew his limitations and that Rome had a huge wall around it, it was heavily fortified. When Rome finally defeated Hannibal they did not want to just kill him, Rome had a habit of parading their enemies through the streets and torturing them long before they kill them.

    • @gregoryglass9040
      @gregoryglass9040 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They didn't kill him

    • @Bazooka_Sharks
      @Bazooka_Sharks 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      He committed suicide before the romans could take care of him

    • @zimbabwean8719
      @zimbabwean8719 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Bazooka_Sharks where did he say they killed him?

    • @robertgiles9124
      @robertgiles9124 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Bazooka_Sharks No thry didn't ...He got away... FAKE NEWS there Joe.

    • @robertgiles9124
      @robertgiles9124 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Actually they often made Allies of those they defeated. You need to study more...it was a looooong Empire with many Leaders and results and "habits". .

  • @williammaddock9179
    @williammaddock9179 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You talk about murdered Carthaginians, but you don't mention that before that Carthage tried to wipe out and MURDER all of Rome.

  • @Duskyberry
    @Duskyberry 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very well presented thank you, I enjoyed this documentary.

  • @ChannelRandomMy
    @ChannelRandomMy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was pretty luke warm about this guy until he bellowed "Delenda est Carthago, Carthage must be destroyed" with the echo, I felt that. 32:33 if you want to hear it again.

  • @kippesnikkel5217
    @kippesnikkel5217 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Fire with fire. Carthage basically did a slaughter in Spain. They were conquering and destroying several Iberian tribes. One of those tribes were trade partners to the Roman republic and war followed. Hannibal showed the world Rome was mortal. Hannibal killed more people then the Romans did in Carthage. Two major wars and 1 smaller one and not to forget Hannibal aided the Seleucids in war against Rome. They destroyed the city. Which is a very normal choice for a republic of that strength and in that time.

    • @jason4275
      @jason4275 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      They were both equally evil empires.

  • @awlkdural5396
    @awlkdural5396 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hello, can you please tell me the name of the song at 4:40? Thank you!

  • @oussamax_1976
    @oussamax_1976 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i was in carthage the other day having a breakfast in the punic art cafe that it had a great view of carthags bay and i was imagining the invasion of the romans and the years of siege it was a mixed feeling of sadness and fantasy.....

  • @brianlane6891
    @brianlane6891 7 ปีที่แล้ว +135

    There is so many historical inaccuracies here...
    Most important -
    (1) by the time of the 1st Punic conflict, there is no reason to believe that anybody considered Rome an upstart. It had already defeated Greek armies on the battlefield and conquered Greek cities in Italy.
    (2) Sicily has its own history. The Romans never agreed to let it be if the Carthaginians would let Italy be. Sicily was contested by the Carthaginians, the Greeks and the native Sicilians. The complication came about when disbanded Roman and Italian soldiers formed an enterprise to own a Sicilian city and succeeded introducing a 4th faction into the conflict and providing Rome with an excuse to intervene in Sicily (because they feared that Carthage was going to win Sicily).
    (3) Historians provide none of his ignorant and wholly made up 'fear and greed' motives. They simply state that the Roman state 'feared' or, more so, 'believed' that it was Carthage's intention to surround Rome and isolate them. Either Rome fought to prevent the encirclement in Siciliy or Rome would have a harder fight at some later point. Polybius is the most credible source on the matter... just read.
    (4) Exterminating cities was not as profound in that era. He should have been more clear that many cities received the treatment that Carthage got instead of making this seem unprecedented.
    I think people need to know that they are being lied to by a presenter that is either ignorant or dishonest. Don't take this seriously, it appears to only be entertainment.

    • @kekistanikekfrog7051
      @kekistanikekfrog7051 6 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Marc Otac Agreed and so many modern historians will LIE in order to push the Marxist world view. Don't fall for it!!!

    • @ricksanchez9288
      @ricksanchez9288 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Marc Otac Exactly! Well said.

    • @HoboTango
      @HoboTango 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Its like that for every single documentary. Ask any historian what documentary show they watch. Their answers will be none.

    • @chucknorris5788
      @chucknorris5788 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Cite some sources on all that please. I suggest you read Mary Beard's books and publications.

    • @dfinlen
      @dfinlen 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I appreciate your well thought-out and detailed commentary. Most of these documentaries are dramatized to pull in more viewers. No one would listen to, we have evidence along these lines and oyher evidence possibly that there's also x y and z. A fair discussion of the understanding does not make for good TV. Someone that is truly interested might stay to the official presentations at conferences and the research papers presented. I appreciate the intent of the documentary to interest and hold the viewer. Regardless you have added value to my understanding, thankyou.

  • @CarlosMendez003
    @CarlosMendez003 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thank god for TH-cam where I can binge on stories of history and great civilizations from the past. I thought I was biggest history buff but looks like there are a lot of us out there. I've been watching a lot of documentaries on the Roman empire, American Revolution, French Revolution, Russian Revolution, Dark Ages, WWI and WWII (I like to jump around). I haven't even started on Greece, Egypt, and other ancient civilizations. So much to watch, so little time!! haha

  • @Irish16King
    @Irish16King 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video. This guys voice sounds just like that guy from the peep show. If you know you know

  • @kinkane5566
    @kinkane5566 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great educational and entertaining work here, thank you for posting this

  • @horsepower523
    @horsepower523 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hannibal really took the meaning of "holding a grudge" to a whole new level when he marched with elephants from Spain all the way to Rome. That looks like a massive hike if you just look at the distance on a map, imagine how long and arduous it was in real life. And the ironic part of it is that in the end, after all that effort, Hannibal still didn't achieve anything significant in terms of inflicting any serious damage on Rome's power.

  • @carlcushmanhybels8159
    @carlcushmanhybels8159 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I learned a lot, Thanks. Liking underdogs, I've always had a special liking for Carthage (but didn't know much about it, except Hannibal's elephants and the Phoenicians). And liked Troy, another underdog.... i liked here the first Scipio's wisdom: That Rome needed Carthage to keep it sharp, and to inspire improvements.

    • @jl9211
      @jl9211 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Rome was the underdog. Rome didn't even control all of Italy, Carthage had lands all over the Mediterranean. The Romans won Spain because the local tribes joined them against Carthage, and their army was a militia as opposed to mercenaries.

    • @carlcushmanhybels8159
      @carlcushmanhybels8159 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Thelondonbadger Watch the video or otherwise... E.g., the video and other investigations show that Rome produced BS anti-Carthage propaganda to self-justify Roman genocide against Carthage. Such as: the false story Carthaginians killed their babies and cooked them. Truth is Carthage was simply the main rival to Rome.

  • @magnuschristianssen8999
    @magnuschristianssen8999 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The Romans rebuilt Carthage as a colony and she eventaully became famous as a home of Christianity's most powerful bishops until (ironically) the Bishop of Rome superceeded the Bishop of Carthage. Check it. Carthage didn't just vanish.....she was moved and the city was renamed Tunis by the Arabs.

    • @hannibalbarca1801
      @hannibalbarca1801 ปีที่แล้ว

      Carthage vanished when Muslims destroyed the city after conquest in the 7th Century

    • @wankawanka3053
      @wankawanka3053 ปีที่แล้ว

      It ain't carthage without the Carthaginians

  • @donnie4393
    @donnie4393 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Romans gave Carthage a choice of surrender. That no harm would fall upon them. But of course Carthage refused and the slaughter began...

  • @dimitriosfromgreece4227
    @dimitriosfromgreece4227 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    THANKS FOR THE VIDEO ,, LOVE FROM SWEDEN ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @johnnymcblaze
    @johnnymcblaze 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Rome knew it's time was at an end, and its leaders saw that Carthage was becoming everything rome had failed to be. Their anger and jealousy now echo through the ages. And the lesson still stands today.

  • @yaboyed5779
    @yaboyed5779 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Tell me this dude hates Rome without telling me he does

  • @hannaheikkila3479
    @hannaheikkila3479 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Beautiful Tunisia 😍

  • @mouhamedslimeni7837
    @mouhamedslimeni7837 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you Sir for this documentary
    I think it's would be interested to contact Mr. Karim Mokhtar he has many truth about Carthage

  • @treblebat
    @treblebat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Why does the song at 4:43 hit so different?

  • @phaedrus000
    @phaedrus000 6 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    When did Robert Webb start narrating documentaries?

    • @termeownator
      @termeownator 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      phaedrus000 Ha dude I was just thinking the same thing. Sounds exactly like him. I was imagining some weird hybrid of jez and Mark that had jez's voice and Mark's penchant for history... and this fella's face I guess

    • @BreadWinner330
      @BreadWinner330 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      lol exactly

    • @marcokite
      @marcokite 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      exactly what i thought, they must be related

    • @billybragg2729
      @billybragg2729 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha..Dammit.. went through comments after implying same thing.

    • @liamsymes1
      @liamsymes1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Mate i was looking for this comment 😂 he even sounds like him

  • @bop1886
    @bop1886 5 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    wow avicii is such a great presenter

    • @anhedonianepiphany5588
      @anhedonianepiphany5588 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      _Who?!?_

    • @frenchartantiquesparis424
      @frenchartantiquesparis424 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      LOL.

    • @robertfulton5033
      @robertfulton5033 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You think so?? I thought he was awful and seemed full of hate for people who lived almost a few thousands of years ago. This video was completely one sided and bizarrely ignored the attacks, killing and destruction of the Roman mainland by the Carthaginian army.

    • @LifeAdviceSite
      @LifeAdviceSite 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Robert Fulton he said in the beginning that the history was written by the victors (Rome), and he wanted to tell the story of Carthage, so that's what he did.

    • @robertfulton5033
      @robertfulton5033 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@LifeAdviceSite Yeah but he completely ignores the terrible misdeeds of Carthaginian empire building while accusing the Romans of the very same thing. It's bizarre and completely biased history. Sure, tell the story of Carthage but don't pretend they were something that they were not, because they were certainly no more virtuous in their political life and military conduct than the Romans were. And it's a blatant lie to say they were.

  • @stellaercolani3810
    @stellaercolani3810 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just fascinating...

  • @robertjeal587
    @robertjeal587 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    35:26 "As he unfurled his toga, out dropped ripe, juicy figs."

  • @BListHistory
    @BListHistory 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    19:57 that's a lot of boats

  • @inchworm9311
    @inchworm9311 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    4:41 does anyone know the name of this music?
    It is awesome