Fascintating instruction. Some things mentioned here that indicate a profound understanding of body dynamic and swing fundamentals. Thank you for putting this up.
Hi Chris, I find your lessons/explanations easy to relate to and have had a positive influence on my golf. I would appreciate a video on correct head path during a swing in relation to the sighting of the golf ball post swing as this is a variable event for me. Thank you in anticipation Garry R
Hi Chris, that's a really good video, one of the best ones I've seen that explain over the top which I'm prone to most of the time. I'll be keep a particular close eye on the wrist movement which is probably my biggest downfall. Keep up the good work.
After having a massive meltdown with golf and having lessons has put me back quite a bit, I decided to watch your videos. I love how you explain things, it helps me to get to grips with what I was taught as there’s only so much you can absorb in 30 mins. Just need to shift this dreaded flu as there’s no chance I can play at the moment! Keep up the good work
Finally found my fundamental problem with consistency due to this vid! Managed to play decent golf on occasion with lots of driving range, but always over the top returned and I was kind of desperate. I make all 3 mistakes, but especially the lead wrist extension. Now for the fix...I am unable to get my wrist flexed during my swing especially long irons and woods. The only way I can do it is to flex at address and keep that wrist position in the swing. The other way is to extremely relax my left wrist, but that leads to shots all over the place. Only trying for a week, but would appreciate some tips or drills that help getting this engrained.
What'z up Chris? Hope all is swell with you and your fambam and friendz. Love the crease in your pants, they demand attention and lookz very classy and sharp man. What a breakdown of the over- the-top move, the misdiagnosis of over-the-top from all levelz of golferz and the panacea. Where to focus and references pointz you can see and identify quickly by studying your wrist, elbow and shoulders. A golf buddy text me today at 8:30 a.m. PST raving about your video is the best over-the-top he has seen. AC is up to his chin in golf, I mean he resides on youtube searching for recipe to play better golf. Chris you have a unique engineering mind that dozenz of golferz say this guy teaching prowess is no nonsense and is crystal clear in his approach, fix, lessons and instructionz on achieving your objective in the quest to play better golf. Thankz for sharing your theater of the mind conceptz with the golfing universe. I'm just stating the factz Chris. 👍 👏 👏 👏 Bravo! Bravo!
Excellent lesson simply explained from someone who is constantly swinging over the top. Left pulls biggest problem. Bet all these 3 are wrong with me when I check. Keep up the good work.
Awesome lesson Chris...if I may add, there is an even more insidious move that players in my handicap level seem to make--certainly I do and I'm trying to get rid of it--the slightly out-to-in swing path. I never knew I had this path, I always thought I had the classical hoola-hoop perfect path, but in slow motion I can see my shoulder go out just a tiny bit, and that causes the outside-in path; in turn actually hit a strong draw and Subconsciously aimed quite a bit right of my target. Of course this keeps me from lowering my handicap below an 8 at the moment....If I hook it too much it adds another club to the shot and I can find all kinds of trouble that will ruin a good round. I'm working on this...and I think your 'elbow' issue might be the one that's spoiling me. 2c. Thanks again for this great lesson.
Hi Chris. This is awesome, explains it so well. I have sliced my hole golfing life, now and again have it under control, but never understood how i go wrong. This and your stop slice series will help so much. I look at a few youtube lessons. Shawn Clements advises strong grip, but that confuses me. Is it better in your view to have neutral grip and sort these 3 things out? Thanks.
Hi Alan, having a stronger grip can certainly help, however wouldn’t be by go to solution, I’d try to move towards the movements within this series. If a golfer really struggles to control the face then changing the hold can be an option for sure 👍
Fantastic video! I don't struggle with contact but found it so frustrating to be smoking drives or irons....but left. For me, I found that after watching this video that my upper body was doing too much and that hip movement corrected everything else
Great teaching tip. Best I have seen on You Tube. Even my Club instructor couldn't explain to me this well. Can you tell me the relationship betwee "over the top" and "casting"? are they two different problems?
Thanks and glad you liked the video. Many would think they are the same thing, but casting is often referring to the golfers throwing the club head away from them too early, so an early release. 👍
Thank's Chris, number 2 is me. I am a 4 HC and struggle with a little over the top due to lack of lower body movement. Hit some balls on the range today keeping the belt buckle in front of the sternum and it feels great with good ball flight but its really hard to do is there any other drills you can suggest mate or just keep ingraining that feeling? thanks in advance.
Good points, I'll need to look out for which one I am. Any chance more vids on different types of lies on the course e.g. below feet , above feet etc cheers and keep up the great work.
As per usual a good vlog. Personally I would to see more than everything aimed at the slicer ie tricky lies, above feet, below feet, above feet downhill etc
Thanks Jack, always tricky as most instructional videos are aimed at the average golfer, and the miss to the right is the most common. Certainly do cover other subject too though 👍
I accept that the average golfer slices the ball but even they have tricky lies etc. I played a different club last Sunday that was extremely hilly and although I don't have a problem with tricky lies in general I found that without local knowledge it was hard to estimate slope difference until I had played several holes. ie some holes had up to 30yd difference re slope. I guess my point was really that everyone seems to go on the slice bandwagon (albeit not to your degree of explanation and solution) and to a natural drawer of the ball it gets repetitive.
Thanks Jack, yeah it is hard as we have to try and produce content that appeals to a variety of golfers and cover a variety of topics. With that being our goal it means that if I produce 20 videos there may only be a small number of those that appeal to you, but hopefully the ones that do can help 👍👍
I really lay it off, due to tennis forehand habits. Seems like reason two is due to reason one; body is rotating like that to square laid off position. The struggle for me is to get into proper left wrist position; once that is in place, then to learn to move the body correctly. Have to share this with my instructor who is trying fix this, but his way is to tell me to get steeper and not so flat. He doesn't focus on left wrist, and keeping the bow and not letting it get laid off.
This might be a stupid question. But external rotation on the trail arm is that forearm rotation? I know I should not forem rotate in the first part of back swing since that sucks the club below or under plan and behind you (bound for OTT). But is there any forearm rotation later on in the backswing? Let's say just past P6 . I sometime feel a slight rotation setting at the top. Am I right in feeling so? Does that actually happen?
i dont understand the open club face explanation, the fault at 1.36 (flat right wrist and bent left wrist actually closes the club face), then it changes at 2.21. I am totally confused. I believe bending his right wrist (which he says is the correction) actually opens the club face
I can't get the concept of starting with the hips going forward. If I try and think of getting my right shoulder going down would that work instead. I play golf right-handed. Most of my problems is where I am coming down too steep or im pushing my tee shots way right.
The number one thing to fix over the top is to teach people to teach people to keep your left arm passive at top your right arm only activates at your hips ,if you activate your left at the top it pushes your right shoulder out causes over the top
Chris I think you missed #1. People trying to hit the ball rather than send the club head and ball down the fairway., Really like the elbow advice as well. When I do that, I cannot hit it left so good for fairway finder.
Over the top swing happened due to the player keen to get maximun speed for the club but because the driver has a long shaft so its must swing from out to in to avoid the club head impacts the ground behind the ball....what to say..if the player know it just a moderate sweeping action...hurmm.
Interesting but you forget it's the Mellon or your head forward that's causing OTT you show it happening in your video but make no mention of it still 2 out 3 ain't bad 👍
😂, 2 out of 3?? I’m sure you watched the video and noted that point 2 was about adding right side bend from the top? This movement controls the head position.... so whilst 2 out of 3 ain’t bad, 3 out of 3 is better 👍👍
A little disappointing that this professional would leave out taking the club back on an inside line and opening the face with wrist rotation as a huge cause for over the top swings. Perhaps this leads to any of the 3 issues mentioned, but if corrected with a one piece straight back take away, this one swing change would help so many over the top swingers.
Thanks for commenting, in my experience changing the first move away very rarely if ever fixes the over the top, agreed it can be a factor, but seem plenty of golfers whip it back on the inside and not come over the top. 👍👍
It is because you try too hard to reach target...the golf course designer also has bad intention when they put green 165 metre pass the water hazard when they know the average golfer just reaching 160 metre with the driver pass the water or pond.
There's an imaginary rotational axis running straight through the middle of ur eyes and out the back of yer head(just sit there a moment and rock yer pate left and right). Rotate yor eyes COUNTER CLOCKWISE at address so that as you downswing thine eyes rotate clockwise back to level when u reach impact. If ya start eyes level or God forbid rotated clockwise your head rotation reaches its rotational limit and yur head jerks over the left shoulder - and where the head does so goes the ball. Jack Nicklaus was said to begin or trigger his backswing by swiveling his chin to the left. He was really rotating counter clockwise about middle of the eye axis. Set up to a ball some time an deliberately rock your head CLOCKWISE and you will pretty much jerk to left most every time. There was a really good reason Nicklaus did this EVERY time. Always had trouble with pronouns.
there is one reason and one reason alone....your over swinging...overswinging the club gets you completely out of position....shorten your swing aka watch John Rahm its a simple fucking fix
Six years later, this is a great video. I can’t wait to hit the range.😊
Excellent explanation of over the top faults and fixes
The best slice curing tips great video!!
Fascintating instruction. Some things mentioned here that indicate a profound understanding of body dynamic and swing fundamentals. Thank you for putting this up.
Hi Chris,
I find your lessons/explanations easy to relate to and have had a positive influence on my golf. I would appreciate a video on correct head path during a swing in relation to the sighting of the golf ball post swing as this is a variable event for me.
Thank you in anticipation
Garry R
Great lesson. Amazing clarity in your explanation. Thank you.
Your second lesson is my exact problem and you've helped me discover it. Thank you so much.
Thanks Nick 👍
Couldn’t agree more. Eye opening tip
Hi Chris, that's a really good video, one of the best ones I've seen that explain over the top which I'm prone to most of the time. I'll be keep a particular close eye on the wrist movement which is probably my biggest downfall.
Keep up the good work.
Thanks Darren, glad you enjoyed the video and hope it helps 👍
After having a massive meltdown with golf and having lessons has put me back quite a bit, I decided to watch your videos. I love how you explain things, it helps me to get to grips with what I was taught as there’s only so much you can absorb in 30 mins. Just need to shift this dreaded flu as there’s no chance I can play at the moment! Keep up the good work
Thanks Lew and hope the videos help
Belt ahead of sternum is a lovely visual. Cheers Chris!
Finally found my fundamental problem with consistency due to this vid! Managed to play decent golf on occasion with lots of driving range, but always over the top returned and I was kind of desperate. I make all 3 mistakes, but especially the lead wrist extension. Now for the fix...I am unable to get my wrist flexed during my swing especially long irons and woods. The only way I can do it is to flex at address and keep that wrist position in the swing. The other way is to extremely relax my left wrist, but that leads to shots all over the place. Only trying for a week, but would appreciate some tips or drills that help getting this engrained.
Love the elbow explanation! I think it is one of my big problems! Thanks!
Thanks Mike 👍
Great vid, definitely my hips that i struggle with. Keep up the top content.
Thanks Ryan
The wrist bend was my fault. Never seen anyone explain this. Top vid sorted my slice out within 2 shots. 👍🏻👍🏻
Absolutely fabulous video, Chris. Thank you very much!
What'z up Chris? Hope all is swell with you and your fambam and friendz.
Love the crease in your pants, they demand attention and lookz very classy and sharp man.
What a breakdown of the over- the-top move, the misdiagnosis of over-the-top from all levelz of golferz and the panacea.
Where to focus and references pointz you can see and identify quickly by studying your wrist, elbow and shoulders.
A golf buddy text me today at 8:30 a.m. PST raving about your video is the best over-the-top he has seen. AC is up to his chin in golf, I mean he resides on youtube searching for recipe to play better golf.
Chris you have a unique engineering mind that dozenz of golferz say this guy teaching prowess is no nonsense and is crystal clear in his approach, fix, lessons and instructionz on achieving your objective in the quest to play better golf.
Thankz for sharing your theater of the mind conceptz with the golfing universe.
I'm just stating the factz Chris. 👍 👏 👏 👏
Bravo! Bravo!
Just excellent world class instruction
Excellent lesson simply explained from someone who is constantly swinging over the top. Left pulls biggest problem. Bet all these 3 are wrong with me when I check. Keep up the good work.
Thanks John appreciate the comments 👍
Awesome lesson Chris...if I may add, there is an even more insidious move that players in my handicap level seem to make--certainly I do and I'm trying to get rid of it--the slightly out-to-in swing path. I never knew I had this path, I always thought I had the classical hoola-hoop perfect path, but in slow motion I can see my shoulder go out just a tiny bit, and that causes the outside-in path; in turn actually hit a strong draw and Subconsciously aimed quite a bit right of my target. Of course this keeps me from lowering my handicap below an 8 at the moment....If I hook it too much it adds another club to the shot and I can find all kinds of trouble that will ruin a good round. I'm working on this...and I think your 'elbow' issue might be the one that's spoiling me. 2c. Thanks again for this great lesson.
Hi Chris. This is awesome, explains it so well. I have sliced my hole golfing life, now and again have it under control, but never understood how i go wrong. This and your stop slice series will help so much. I look at a few youtube lessons. Shawn Clements advises strong grip, but that confuses me. Is it better in your view to have neutral grip and sort these 3 things out? Thanks.
Hi Alan, having a stronger grip can certainly help, however wouldn’t be by go to solution, I’d try to move towards the movements within this series. If a golfer really struggles to control the face then changing the hold can be an option for sure 👍
Fantastic video! I don't struggle with contact but found it so frustrating to be smoking drives or irons....but left. For me, I found that after watching this video that my upper body was doing too much and that hip movement corrected everything else
Thanks Simon glad the video helped 👍
another quality video. after slow motion video of my swing i could see it was hip rotation causing the issue. now to work on it :)
Great Analysis well done… Thanks !
Excellent concise video. Thanks
Nice vid as always Chris, any drills for getting the trail elbow lower?
Struggled with this for years but never quite understood the mechanics.....it's like a Eureka moment.👍
Thank you sir. I'm in construction work. My muscle memory is gone. This helps. Thanks again.
Great teaching tip. Best I have seen on You Tube. Even my Club instructor couldn't explain to me this well. Can you tell me the relationship betwee "over the top" and "casting"? are they two different problems?
Thanks and glad you liked the video. Many would think they are the same thing, but casting is often referring to the golfers throwing the club head away from them too early, so an early release. 👍
Awesome vid. Love the bit about the trail elbow needing to be lower than the lead elbow.
Thanks John, hope it helps 👍
ChrisRyanGolf Hi I to. Have this trouble #3. Any recommended drill for curing? Thanks!!
Excellent teaching
Great explanation
After countless videos and drills this made the light bulb go off. Short sweet and to the point
Excellent video Chris !
Great work Chris
Thanks Chris. Great explanations & diagnosis.
Thanks
Thank's Chris, number 2 is me. I am a 4 HC and struggle with a little over the top due to lack of lower body movement. Hit some balls on the range today keeping the belt buckle in front of the sternum and it feels great with good ball flight but its really hard to do is there any other drills you can suggest mate or just keep ingraining that feeling? thanks in advance.
Excellent video
Good points, I'll need to look out for which one I am. Any chance more vids on different types of lies on the course e.g. below feet , above feet etc cheers and keep up the great work.
Thanks Tony, and yes I have a series planned later in the year covering different situations out on the golf course 👍
ChrisRyanGolf- Thanks Chris will look forward to it. Cheers
This is a perfect explanation
Nice lesson
GREAT VIDEO CHRIS
Thanks Joe
As per usual a good vlog.
Personally I would to see more than everything aimed at the slicer ie tricky lies, above feet, below feet, above feet downhill etc
Thanks Jack, always tricky as most instructional videos are aimed at the average golfer, and the miss to the right is the most common. Certainly do cover other subject too though 👍
I accept that the average golfer slices the ball but even they have tricky lies etc.
I played a different club last Sunday that was extremely hilly and although I don't have a problem with tricky lies in general I found that without local knowledge it was hard to estimate slope difference until I had played several holes. ie some holes had up to 30yd difference re slope.
I guess my point was really that everyone seems to go on the slice bandwagon (albeit not to your degree of explanation and solution) and to a natural drawer of the ball it gets repetitive.
Thanks Jack, yeah it is hard as we have to try and produce content that appeals to a variety of golfers and cover a variety of topics. With that being our goal it means that if I produce 20 videos there may only be a small number of those that appeal to you, but hopefully the ones that do can help 👍👍
I really lay it off, due to tennis forehand habits. Seems like reason two is due to reason one; body is rotating like that to square laid off position. The struggle for me is to get into proper left wrist position; once that is in place, then to learn to move the body correctly. Have to share this with my instructor who is trying fix this, but his way is to tell me to get steeper and not so flat. He doesn't focus on left wrist, and keeping the bow and not letting it get laid off.
Excellent thanks
Great job. Well explained!
Nice video Chris
Thanks 👍
You're the man
The tutorials .. Are Awesome help Thank's Chris
Thanks Luke 👍
This might be a stupid question. But external rotation on the trail arm is that forearm rotation? I know I should not forem rotate in the first part of back swing since that sucks the club below or under plan and behind you (bound for OTT). But is there any forearm rotation later on in the backswing? Let's say just past P6 . I sometime feel a slight rotation setting at the top. Am I right in feeling so? Does that actually happen?
100 view squad keep up the great work mate
Great golf coach for sure 👍
Thanks 👍
Superb, thanks.
i dont understand the open club face explanation, the fault at 1.36 (flat right wrist and bent left wrist actually closes the club face), then it changes at 2.21. I am totally confused. I believe bending his right wrist (which he says is the correction) actually opens the club face
tku so clear explaination
Great video
I come over the top more due to hip rotation and a lower lead elbow. How do I practice getting my lead elbow lower?
I can't get the concept of starting with the hips going forward. If I try and think of getting my right shoulder going down would that work instead. I play golf right-handed. Most of my problems is where I am coming down too steep or im pushing my tee shots way right.
great video !!!
A great lesson!!!
Thanks 👍
What if the last part of swing is flipping at the ball right hand pushing through ball left wrist breaking and elbow Backing up and not rotating
Could another cause be not turning your shoulders enough on the backswing ?
Great tips! Nice way of explaining it! Great job. Keep posting tips! Nice slice, by the way! Just kidding!
Nice course!
Thanks Mark, the course at Las Colinas is awesome 👍👍
Chris, good stuff. Does this apply to irons as well?
Over the top swing happened because the golfers think direct attack using the upper body is more powerful rather than sweep attack using a lower body.
The number one thing to fix over the top is to teach people to teach people to keep your left arm passive at top your right arm only activates at your hips ,if you activate your left at the top it pushes your right shoulder out causes over the top
Bingo 😵 that’s most my struggle
i love how in the beginning he’s not facing the front face camera
thank you for this...;easy to understand and I think I found my fault, thank you
Thanks
Can you have all 3?
You can yes
Chris I think you missed #1. People trying to hit the ball rather than send the club head and ball down the fairway., Really like the elbow advice as well. When I do that, I cannot hit it left so good for fairway finder.
Thanks Robert
This does seem to be good advice
Over the top swing happened due to the player keen to get maximun speed for the club but because the driver has a long shaft so its must swing from out to in to avoid the club head impacts the ground behind the ball....what to say..if the player know it just a moderate sweeping action...hurmm.
I think I do all three of these things in my swing.
Interesting but you forget it's the Mellon or your head forward that's causing OTT you show it happening in your video but make no mention of it still 2 out 3 ain't bad 👍
😂, 2 out of 3?? I’m sure you watched the video and noted that point 2 was about adding right side bend from the top? This movement controls the head position.... so whilst 2 out of 3 ain’t bad, 3 out of 3 is better 👍👍
@@ChrisRyanGolf could of kept it simple ?
All 3 for me i would guess
Aye! Add in some early extension for good measure.
You didnt say how to stop external rotation of the right elbow ??
Thats like describing the water to someone who's drowning 🤔
Why is my left hip sore
Hey, unfortunately that is almost impossible to answer, may be medical, physical etc
A little disappointing that this professional would leave out taking the club back on an inside line and opening the face with wrist rotation as a huge cause for over the top swings. Perhaps this leads to any of the 3 issues mentioned, but if corrected with a one piece straight back take away, this one swing change would help so many over the top swingers.
Thanks for commenting, in my experience changing the first move away very rarely if ever fixes the over the top, agreed it can be a factor, but seem plenty of golfers whip it back on the inside and not come over the top. 👍👍
That ball def. went to the right with that wind... lol
just in time, last series has me finding middle of face, but not middle of fairway.
Thanks hope it helps 👍👍
It is because you try too hard to reach target...the golf course designer also has bad intention when they put green 165 metre pass the water hazard when they know the average golfer just reaching 160 metre with the driver pass the water or pond.
be nice if I could hear it better ..especially when he turns his head back ..volume TO LOW
There's an imaginary rotational axis running straight through the middle of ur eyes and out the back of yer head(just sit there a moment and rock yer pate left and right). Rotate yor eyes COUNTER CLOCKWISE at address so that as you downswing thine eyes rotate clockwise back to level when u reach impact. If ya start eyes level or God forbid rotated clockwise your head rotation reaches its rotational limit and yur head jerks over the left shoulder - and where the head does so goes the ball. Jack Nicklaus was said to begin or trigger his backswing by swiveling his chin to the left. He was really rotating counter clockwise about middle of the eye axis. Set up to a ball some time an deliberately rock your head CLOCKWISE and you will pretty much jerk to left most every time. There was a really good reason Nicklaus did this EVERY time. Always had trouble with pronouns.
I'm all 3 🙄
Ha, well at least you know what to work on Darren 👍👍
all three lol
Hold the tray, spill the tray, mental image.
there is one reason and one reason alone....your over swinging...overswinging the club gets you completely out of position....shorten your swing aka watch John Rahm its a simple fucking fix
Unfortunately so many things wrong with this statement! The most common combination I see is a short backswing an over the top move 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
Don’t cover that great hair.
Excellent explanation!!! Thank you