BBC Ideas: The misdiagnosis that sent me to psychiatric hospital
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- When Hannah Farrell lost her ability to speak and function, doctors thought she was mentally ill, but her symptoms, in fact, had a physical cause.
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I knew before she even said it. This happened to my mum. The exact. Same. Thing. This was in the 80s. All this tells me is that absolutely zero effort has been made to reduce this happening.
A very similar thing happened to my dad in the 2000s. He had a rare form of cancer that was missed by doctors as they thought it was in his head. Wish doctors could be trained on rarer illnesses and not send people away and dismiss them when they don't recognise their symptoms
There was a case in Norway that someone had severe b12 deficiency. It took them ages to bother to run something that basic bloodwork. By then? She was also mentally ill due to the "treatment".
B12 deficiency is a surprisingly common cause, and it's easily exacerbated by gut issues like chrons and celiac. Happened to me too but fortunately my GP knew what was up
@@DZrache Yup, she had chrons. If you (or others) should be curious "Tone, mangelt vitamin B12-ble diagnostiert som shizofren" and googletranslate it is a decent start. It is a very well documented case, in a country that prides itself for having good health care (and most of the time, we are decent, also with mental health)... I can only imagine how common these things are in countries that are worse off than us.
This type of thing is soo much more common than people think... It's horrible. I'm really not sure anymore it's psychology was a good idea, overall...
Oh, that’’s a known thing. We know that quite a few people with dementia and even schizophrenia are completely cured with b vitamins.
It is common that doctors do not listen to women. Sexism is the inherent in the history and study of medicine.
If your doctor asks "are you stressed?", IT'S A TRAP! Say no, or say "not more than the average person".
my response is "are you???"
the way they really refuse to engage their brains is disgustingly lazy, being sassy actually snaps them out of that autopilot daze. and when you make them laugh, they might be inspired to do their whole job, so it's helpful to have a 3 min set ready
I'm an RN. With a competent physician this isn't a dangerous question. It's actually very useful and can serve as an indication for a multitude of things. The better way to assess is asking, "Are you more stressed than usual?" "What does stress look like for you?" "How do you deal with stress?" Then you rule out a bunch of stuff before resorting to a diagnosis of mental illness. Her GP was an incompetent moron and it terrifies me hearing about that experience. She should have had so much more testing done much earlier than she did.
@@ashlynkmiles idk, I see a lot of otherwise competent physicians become somewhat useless bc they are def not on charge of the way medicine is practiced anymore. due to managed care & ins companies, they've got 15 mins to be late, listen to your crisis, then make a guess. and your health care provider might not give you access to the same dr next time, a practice def known to worsen patient outcomes at the same time it drives up costs. smash the managed care industry, it's bad for everyone except the profiteers calling the shots. Medicare should be fighting this shit bc they waste a FUCKTON of tax dollars on subpar "care" at every opportunity
If you say "no" they can just choose to not believe you. In my experience, if a doctor is already leaning towards a psychosomatic basis, it's already over. Don't argue, just find a different doctor. They don't know and no amount of arguing will motivate them to find your answer.
@@ashlynkmilesI disagree. Stressed is a greenlight for gaslighting. Most people have problems and are stressed not vice versa. Stress is a cause of illness in the minds of lazy doctors or psychopathic ones. Stress does not cause physical problems but physical problems cause stress. Stress causing illness is so 1990s. The reason why nurses ask about stress is that illness causes stress which is then uncomfortable
It's bizarre that there was not even an attempt to look for an underlying cause before she was sent to a mental hospital. The GP should have sent her to a neurologist for tests before prescribing antidepressants.
Me over here weird ocular migraines and thunderclap headaches for a decade with my GP telling me I’m imagining it and I had to tell her to take me off of combiner oral contraceptive when I felt like ice as getting minor clots in my legs (excruciating pain and numbness). My migraines cause stroke like symptoms. I have cervical instability as well causing tingling down my arms but she refuses to refer me to a neurologist
A decade or so ago I went to the gp with pains in the small of my back around my kidneys. They were very painful and making it hard to sleep. He said they’d probably clear up by themselves in a week or two. When they didn’t I went back and he fobbed me off again. When I went back a third time he asked me what I hoped to achieve by having soo many doctors appointments. I could tell by his tone and body language he was implying I was making it all up for attention or something. Anyway I told him I just wanted the pain to stop and demanded some kind of investigation. He grudgingly sent me for an ultrasound of my kidneys and who the heck could have guessed I had kidney stones 🙄. But despite such obvious symptoms of a common condition he was clearly convinced I was a hypochondriac. If I’d had something more unusual and harder to diagnose like this woman I’m sure he’d have straight up told me I was crazy to my face like they did with her
@@WhichDoctor1 I am so sorry. It’s the way they phrased it to you as well, so condescending. My autism support worker used the exact same words what do you hope to achieve when I reported my landlord for toxic mould causing anaphylaxis. They ended up being orders to make improvements by the ombudsman before I died of aspergillosis
@@WhichDoctor1I lost a kidney because my doctor dismissed my kidney pain.
Yeah if you've lost the ability to talk - that's not depression!
Female patient
Doctors: it's either periods, pregnancy or mental illness
You forgot menopause
'anxiety' dont worry its very common, HAVE SOME SSRIS.
not you just saying what doctors will say lol.
How come no one says it's your family?
Or of course Wright
So let me get this straight: she came in feeling feverish and fatigued, then lost the ability to speak, and a GP - a GP, not a specialist - decided she needed antidepressants and was mentally ill? Then they found an actual lesion on her brain, and they still stuck to the mental illness diagnosis? Good grief.
It's horrifying how common it is for women to be diagnosed with mental illness, stress, or overweight for all kinds of ills that have nothing to do with those things.
Appalling.
Yep, GP’s need better training everywhere so it seems. My friend here in NZ was told she had mastitis by a female doctor mind you…she had breast cancer.
all mental illness is brain disease...just most of the time we don't figure out what causes it
😂😂😂 true
I remember I nearly died from being misdiagnosed three times. Got diagnosed with anorexia and that “it’s what teenage girls are doing”. I had type one diabetes.
Oh my God. I hope you are ok/better now.
20 years of being misdiagnosed, it took ONE Doctor to actually listen to me and run proper tests for Lupus SLE. All those years wasted and getting sicker…
So sorry that happened to you but why didn't you speak up sooner???? Objective tests should always be the FIRST STEP!
Did you watch the video or even read the comment properly? They speak up but still got misdiagnosed Multiple times.
@@yannicmodritscher4646 OP was sharing a personal story regarding themself not the video. I don't know the details regarding their personal situation.
@@yannicmodritscher4646 I hate that anyone goes through this but I tell you what I wouldn't have waited 20 years to get an answer. You just have to know that there is an objective answer out there somewhere and not allow yourself to be dicked around like this by crazy loons that probably shouldn't even be in the business. The internet has been around since the 90s we can find the answers ourselves if need be. My heart goes out to anyone in this situation but after the first few times of being treated like nonsense, if it were me, I'm leaving and never coming back if not reporting them.
The amount of time we allow other people to screw us over is up to us. I'm happy they're in a better way now but it wouldn't have taken me two years much less 20. if this happened back in the 70s or 80s that's a little different because the internet wasn't a resource then however, books were.
I never knew until recently have scandalous a lot of doctors work I didn't realize so many trash people were going into the field but I guess we have to be on our guard because they are. We have to be our own advocate from the first and to the last so we don't lose years or decades of our life to ijdiots.
Ultimately unfortunately it's up to us. We can't be passive and expect a good doctor to come along if they won't. And it sucks living in a for-profit privatized healthcare State like the US but all I can say is if we just wait for a decent doctor to come along we may be waiting a long time. We have to take the reins of our own health.
Too many scammers out there. Clearly there are far too many MDs that don't have the ethics or the competency to be in their field.
@yannicmodritscher4646 I hate that anyone goes through this but I tell you what I wouldn't have waited 20 years to get an answer. You just have to know that there is an objective answer out there somewhere and not allow yourself to be dicked around like this by crazy loons that probably shouldn't even be in the business. The internet has been around since the 90s we can find the answers ourselves if need be. My heart goes out to anyone in this situation but after the first few times of being treated like nonsense, if it were me, I'm leaving and never coming back if not reporting them.
The amount of time we allow other people to screw us over is up to us. I'm happy they're in a better way now but it wouldn't have taken me two years much less 20. if this happened back in the 70s or 80s that's a little different because the internet wasn't a resource then however, books were.
I never knew until recently have scandalous a lot of doctors work I didn't realize so many tr, ash people were going into the field but I guess we have to be on our guard because they are. We have to be our own advocate from the first and to the last so we don't lose years or decades of our life to ijdiots.
Ultimately unfortunately it's up to us. We can't be passive and expect a good doctor to come along if they won't. And it sucks living in a for-profit privatized healthcare State like the US but all I can say is if we just wait for a decent doctor to come along we may be waiting a long time. We have to take the reins of our own health.
Too many scammers out there. Clearly there are far too many MDs that don't have the ethics or the competency to be in their field.
I was told the symptoms of chronic pain, migraine, fatigue, and mobility loss were 'in my head' or 'just depression' for 9 years before I found a doctor who sent me to the hospital for tests. I remember telling one doctor "Of course I'm depressed. I'm in constant pain, losing my ability to walk and do everyday activities, and you keep telling me it's in my head!".
why won't doctors just test!?!? Wtaf!?!
@YourCapybaraAmigo_17yrsago Well, it seems a common belief is that women are oversensitive and attention-seeking. Therefore, any symptoms are, at best, exaggerated, at worst, made up.
What was the diagnosis?
Yes I'm curious too. Did you find the receive a proper diagnosis and are you feeling better now? Hope so. Really sorry you had to deal with this I can only imagine how frustrating and engaging that must have been.
@sparklemotion8377 ME/CFS, since been diagnosed with Fibromyalgia too.
it took me 9 years to get a proper diagnosis of ME/CFS, I was misdiagnosed with several psychiatric conditions and mistreated, i resonate alot with this.
Same, but now I realise that my CFS, POTS and fibromyalgia are a result of hEDS
@@trollsneedhugs im glad you finally have some clarity there.
3 weeks to diagnose? Lucky! Took THREE YEARS of going to every ENT in NYC to finally have a speech therapist from Russia tell me my throat pain was coming from my TMJ disorder. Finally after 11 years of conservative treatments that didn’t work I got surgery.
I'm at 18 years undiagnosed. if my illness was a bébé it would be driving & voting & dodging the draft/student loans rn
but things have been escalating, so maybe I don't have to deal with this much longer. my Dr's gonna love to hear me frame it like that hahaha
exactly!!! I’m here thinking this is one of the best case scenarios for her case in the nhs 😢
I was misdiagnosed as delusional forcibly medicated spent 11 days involuntarily commited because i was treating myself with antibiotics. Turns out i have tuberculosis and am now on antibiotics for many months
I went to a neurosurgeon to have my x-rays read about my neck being out of alignment. that's all I was there for. A few months later, while reading through my patient records to send to my new GP about my neck issue, I found a single entry claiming delusional disorder, entered on the same date as my x-ray consultation. No one at the surgeons office knew how the entry got there , who put it there, or who could take it off. I politely raised hell and started sending letters with carbon copies to other higher ups until someone "figured out" out to remove it from my record. That kinda bull shit ruins people's lives, and I'm glad I noticed it before someone misread it and did harm to me based on nothing. Of course, the next course of action was to schedule planning for neck surgery to correct the condition but heck if I'm gonna let them cut on me if they can't even do data entry correctly and have NO accountability for medical related mistakes.
unfortunately this is typical
@atheistbewildered2987 thank you for commenting and validating my feelings of frustration disappointment and betrayal
All mental illnesses, schizophrenia for example, are not necessarily mistaken for a mental illness because it classifies as that but it, just as well, is a physical illness of the brain. If one starts hallucinating there is something wrong in the brain. I would say that it is a very physical symptom, although there is no cyst or tumor. It makes me sad that mental illnesses aren't seen as a brain disease, because it feels like the illness is not seen as a real illness just like other illnesses.
I really hope that some day mentally ill people can just go to the neurologist and get a treatment like for any other disease, and psychology will be for basically coaching people through tough times, not to talk to people who actually have something wrong with their brain chemistry, who need real help not someone to talk to....
On the contrary, there is no scientific evidence for mental distress, including psychosis, to be a discreet biological illness. The biomedical approach to mental health it the biggest scam of our century.
@@Not_Even_Wrong I am not saying that certain kinds of therapy cant help improving the brain illness. it depends, but it can be a beneficial treatment. Mental illnesses are often a result of a tough life, it just means that a tough life actually causes brain damage
Bartonella can cause schizophrenia
@@puck6380 The ideal would be some sort of combined approach that is "more than the sum of its parts" in that there would be actual science around the precise interaction between more "medical" therapies and psychological therapies and where the results of one could inform the other (e.g. that certain medical therapies might be chosen to _enable_ certain kinds of psychological therapies and/or potentiate them).
Diagnosing womens physical illness as mental goes back 2000 years. It's common daily practise where FND functional neurological disorder, MUS medically unexplained symptoms, stress, anxiety, depression, psychosis are thrown left and right.
Women goes more to the doctor, yet they die at a larger rate of cancers and heart disease that aren't picked up earlier, meanwhile they're told "you go to the doctor too much cause you're anxious".
For years I had several symptoms deemed as 'classic anxiety symptoms' by doctors who hadn't ran any physical testing, they admitted me to the psych ward and at the hospital they were obliged to do physical scans, turned out it was a stage of precancer that would have ended up killing me.
Imagine we move our perspecive from that of 2000 years ago
edit:To clarify, hysteria = wandering womb/blaming physical illness as mental is 2000 years old and thriving. Men too are misdiagnosed indeed, and it's largely those who suffer from illnesses that affect mainly women. It's terrible and medicine needs to progress from doing well intended harm here
This doesn't just happen to women. This is a problem with the garbage medical industry and doctors that are incompetent, corrupt, and complacent.
Women do not die at a higher rate from cancer or heart disease when compared to men. This is well known.
I’m so sorry, and also glad you got a proper diagnoses later. I hope your cancer is gone forever.
Yes. From my own experience I'm very suspicious that "Functional Neurological Disorder" has just become a euphemism for _"We don't know what this is because we don't have the scanning technology to identify it."_
@shadeslayer512 It doesn't just happen to women but a it does happen more to women than men.
In poor countries like mine, not sure if the doctors will re-study her diagnosis...she will probably stay in the mental facility (sad but true)
Very few doctors recognised that kind of ailment, especially when you are poor
I live in a wealthy country, and doctors don't want to help here either.
The vast majority of people being treated for mental illness have physiological and metabolic causes especially psychotic disorders. Relational and trauma caused mental illness such as personality disorders is not the same. Most people with depression and anxiety are also suffering inflammation, deficiency or infection that has gone undiagnosed. We are still in the dark ages and infancy of psychiatry.
check out brain saver by medical medium for more info along these lines
Food, minerals, protein and nutrients.
Should be no1.
Awful she was misdiagnosed 😮🎉
Totally agree
It took 35 years to get a diagnosis for Mast Cell Activation Syndrome. Over that time, I saw about 100 different male docs. (That's all there was, no women docs.) They ALL said I was "an hysterical woman. There was nothing wrong with me". One doc stuck his head in the room and immediately dismissed me without even speaking to me. His nurses told me to see another doc. I found a women doc with a PhD in Immunology & a MD. She listened, did tests and had a diagnosis of MCAS in 1 WEEK! after 35 years of men telling me I was just crazy. How long before men will accept that MD does not stand for Medical Deity?
I will not see a male doc again.
I don't know how long it will take them to understand that. what I do know from more than one personal experience is that male docs can do similar to us males. A few samples: telling me that I have covid when tests said no covid and it turned out to be adverse reaction to a new antibiotic; telling me that a rash in center of my chest (for over A Year!) must be an allergic reaction to soap, change soap and it will go away, when it turned out to be a fungus infection. And then there were 27 years of Psychiatrists in thousand dollar suits telling me I was bipolar until some community health guy in jeans and a polo shirt said in 2009, you aren't bipolar, never have been, you are autistic, here's why ..." A while after that I stopped the psych meds cold turkey and guess what ... the psych problems which periodically landed me as psych inpatient evaporated to not return.
My stepdaughter was diagnosed with schizophrenia after starting to exhibit unusual behaviours and symptoms. Later, after her speech became slurred she was re-examined and two tumours were discovered in her brain. They were surgically removed but more grew back over the following couple of years. Unfortunately nothing more could be done, and we lost her. I have since discovered that it is not uncommon for misdiagnoses of this kind, in cases where the brain is malfunctioning due to an actual physical abnormality of some kind.
Oh dear. Sorry that she was eventually lost.
So sorry to hear that
My son had similar problems. Developing severe neurological symptoms clearly triggered by phyical causes. Found in no book, did not really fit any description. There were tiny signs in the MRT "which were certainly too small to be of significance" - given the fact that had been permanently "tired" and "depressed" even before, this was deemed "mental illness" with "psychogenic seizures".
Several months and doctors and a stay in the psychiatric ward later, it turned out that he had Post-COVID (ME/CFS-like), with the very rare case of the central nervous system being affected. The post-COVID-clinic where we went to diagnosis said that every single of the handful of patients with these symptoms had had the same, half of them had the "tiny" change in the MRT scan no one really could interpret, and all of them had been told they were mentally ill, developing psychogenic seizures because of stress or depression or whatever, since "seizures like this have not yet been described anywhere."
Same with Post-COVID in general... I'll never forget our pediatrician telling me that, "Well, Post-COVID is very rare. I've never heard about or have seen anyone who has it" when asked if the permanetly being tired and exhausted could be that. "I am sure he does not have it." To which I asked that if he had never seen any patient, how could he tell me what it looked like and whether my son had it or not?"
That gave him some food for thought.
She is so lucky that the doctors explored alternative causes of her symptoms. Most psychiatrists won’t give their patients that grace.
Most psychiatrists are morons
You have zero sources to back that wild statement up 😂😂 theyll investigate whatever you ask them to with rare exceptions... which you can ask for another opinion, or they're Supervisor.
You must be thinking of another country... A non-westernized country
Psychiatrists are interested in making and keeping people sick. You can only heal from distress while meeting and feeling it face to face, with all your being. Psychiatrists, instead, diagnose distress as illness, sabotaging the path to healing, while providing drugs that chemically disconnects you from feeling.
Not really- most first time psychosis especially female, sudden and catatonia. This is a red alarm and we often order bloods including NMDA immunoglobulin and brain scan. But any first time sudden psychosis will get a brain scan at least- UK psychiatry trainee.
Not in the US. Never heard of that happening.
The extra bit at the end about FND is still a bit excessively focused on psychological, IMO. Risk factors like epilepsy, MS, migraine aura, frequent physical injury are also present for FNDs and no less important; but they move against the narrative that it's a purely 'mind -> body' condition and not 'mind body', where the mind and the brain are not distinct entities.
The incompetency from primary care is utterly terrifying…
Truth. In November an Urgent Care doctor kept insisting I had Covid after 3 tests came back negative; I went elsewhere and it turned out to be adverse reaction to antibiotic recently started.
It's more terrifying when you get that from specialists. I had two abnormal MRI brain scans dismissed by a specialist. But now after treatment the scan is normal.
Read "Brain on Fire." Susannah Cahalan is an American writer and author, known for writing the memoir Brain on Fire: My Month of Madness, about her hospitalization with a rare auto-immune disease, anti-NMDA receptor encephalitis.
"I lost my ability to speak, so my GP prescribed antidepressants and sent me home." JFC. Where did this doctor go to school?
This makes me a bit frustrated and glad which is strange. I’ve been diagnosed with FND there is very little help so I treated myself. It’s a trauma response with the most drastic being a flop response where the Dorsal Vagal nerve shuts down the body into hypo freeze and prepares for death. We need more research into dissociative states. My neurologist couldn’t even describe dissociation to me even though she had diagnosed me with dissociative seizures. Which is not accurate as I had no seizure symptoms, no brain scans, just a ‘when the brain stops the body working we call it FND’. That’s it. Talk to trauma researchers, you will see that Dissociative disorders, PTSD, autistic shutdown/catatonia and FND are all the same spectrum of nervous system response to varying levels of distress. If I can work this out without a medical degree and 90% heal myself it’s not rocket science.
Thank you for this information
Exactly! Common sense and very logical!
I developed 'medically unexplained' movement issues days after I was given SSRI drugs. I had gone to the doctor because I had trouble staying asleep because I felt like I was choking and I'd wake up again and the doctor said it seemed to be psychosomatic... Well it turns out the choking feeling did have a physical cause it was layngopharengeal reflux also known as silent reflux and that was why...but I stayed unwell from the stress of having an extreme reaction from the SSRI medication for like 3 years until I felt normal again mentally as well as physically... the actual effects of the drug took a year and a half to go away for some reason
I have autistic shutdowns when things get really bad and it makes so muvh sense that it is on the same spectrum as dissasociation
@@orangesnowflake3769yeah, ssri’s are nasty. They have a super long half life. Glad you’re doing better now!
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Dr. House would've figured it out sooner.
Definitely Lupus
I wish that bastard was real.
Was dx with conversion disorder but actually have a potassium disorder that causes paralysis. Had 5 neurologists misdiagnose me. Some of them laughed at me. Totally incompetent
You should have gone to a psychiatrist who would have done blood tests or arranged medical work up. Neurologists are the worst offenders. There is no such thing as conversion disorder - it doesnt happen in animals and it doesnt happen in humans.
I wet my bed until I was 15.
Doctors diagnosis: Psychological. Solution: Punishments until I would understand I have to stop.
Solution in the end: Hormones that my body didn't produce.
I had my tonsils removed and the surgeon decided to also remove some polyps in my nose. Since then I have had hard time breathing and a runny nose that makes it hard for me to breath.
Diagnosis for 20 years: Tics / in my head.
Actual diagnosis: Severe scaring from surgery
I couldn't have sex without it being very painful for 6 years.
Diagnosis: Being tense, not in love with your partner/Psychological
Actual diagnosis: Caused by progesteron IUD
Had the worst migraines giving me mobility issues, making me close to blind and ofc horrible headaches for days every month.
Diagnosis: Stress, psychological
Actual diagnosis: Hormon over sensitivity and Caffeine over sensitivity.
Had a stroke at 26.
Diagnosis: It's nothing. Go home and sleep.
Actual diagnosis: Stroke.
Too bad you have encountered so many psychopaths
@@atheistbewildered2987 they weren't psychopaths.
This sounds a lot like my experiences but with different conditions.
And I forgot: When I got severe PTSD after getting sent home with a stroke and being in the middle of a terror attacks in the same week.
Diagnosis for over 6 years: You are immature and oversensitive.
Diagnosis when I met my countrys PTSD specialist: One of the clearest and worst cases of PTSD she ever saw.
I felt tearful watching this. I'm not me anymore. It's been like living in a weird horror film. After years I've been given the vague suggestion that I might have fibromyalgia, whatever that is, and left to get on with it. And yes, I've been told on numerous occasions that I am mentally ill. Anyone would be if they had struggled with my symptoms for years.
😢 relatable going through it dear
This reminds me of the book & film Brain on Fire. It was really scary to watch & thank goodness a doctor did find out the problem. Thank goodness for these wonderful doctors instead of the ones who brush off symptoms especially in woman to just anxiety. I’m guessing more women will suffer from this because our immune systems are stronger than mens but the downside to that is it turns against us. I have several autoimmune diseases & they are a real pain.
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FND isn’t really a ‘processing problem’ I the brain in many cases labelled that way. It’s just that we don’t fully explain the physiology yet. I agree that duality is unreal. The fact this girl received immunotherapy is key. Most people with ‘FND’ aren’t offered that, which we will look back as primitive one day. Politicians and the FWP are significantly involved in the creation of these labels which impact benefits and can lead to medical neglect. Hence why we have several young women unable to eat with me/cfs in uk hospitals who refuse to give them feeding tubes they need. These young women often die.
Really appreciate this story being shared, and fully agree the false dichotomy of physical vs mental illness needs fixing, fast.
Yeah. There's no psyche, all is physical and all symptoms are real. I've been visited by the Lizard people just yesterday and they told me that.
I became like that from living in a water damaged rental complex with high levels toxic mold mycotoxins
0:57 sounds like something is up with her brain
1:22 oh, a cyst
1:47 once again somatic illnesses are misdiagnosed as psychiatric disorders because medical practitioners are lazy and only live in their own speciality.
Horrifically typical and common
3:54 GPs, EDs, and Psychiatrists
4:52 Can we please just accept that brain phuqing up is due to actual physiological neuroanatomy.
Stress hormones can screw up brain function - who knew?!
Me. But would the ED and psychiatric doctors listen? No, because they're rather arrogant, especially in this electorate.
Turns out, along with acute trauma events, there was a raging UTI
UTIs are more commonly a cause of psychosis than doctors will admit. In my 20s i had constant UTIs. I was put in the mental hospital a lot, and each time i had to be treated for severe UTI. When the UTIs cleared up, i stopped being admitted to the mental hospital. I have not had mental problems now for 15 years. The only exception was when i was on high dose steroids and had a hallucination. I stopped the steroids and it did not recurr.
Wow. Well done for putting in all that work to recover so much. I'm sorry it was made more difficult by the misdiagnosis.
so much emphasis from doctors on somatic symptoms caused by psychological issues but not vice versa.. 🤷🏻
So sad for Hannah ...THANK GOODNESS she found out what was gong on .
I suffered the borderline disorder for over 23 years.
With so much anxiety Not until I came across psilocybin mushrooms treatmentPsilocybin treatment actually saved my life honestly. 6 years totally clean.
Never thought I would be saying this about mushrooms
Can you help with the reliable source I would really appreciate it. Many people talk about mushrooms and psychedelics but nobody talks about where to get them. Very hard to get a reliable source here in Australia. Really need!
The shroom experience stands as my most remarkable journey, an awe-inspiring encounter that left an indelible mark of amazement.
Is he on instagram?
Microdosing helped me get out of the pit of my worst depressive episode, a three year long episode, enough to start working on my mental health.
Can dr.porass send to me in UK?
I had post concussion syndrome and they tried to give me antipsychotics for psychosis. They wouldn’t believe and I had to fight to get a consultant psychiatrist whom was on my side. My doctor was absolutely useless.
Same here and I actually took the drugs. Lost the ability to sleep for a few weeks before I got off them
@@1fareast14 😮 I’m so glad I didn’t give into them. The pressure they put me under was awful and I very nearly gave into them and took the dam things. I’m glad things turned out for you in the end as those drugs will kill you quickly and make you proper mentally ill.
@timwoodger7896 I'm not so down on them. I have a family member who needed them to get out of mental health episodes. As for pressure, it should be on the doctors to make you better. Not much they can do for pcs, unless you think that the likes of concussionfx can be helpful. If it does, hope your insurance covers it.
Yes, psychiatrists know the difference
Doctors are paid by ssris etc companies
Ahh bless this poor lady … hope she has fully recovered xx
I’ve had stress enough, undiagnosed autism and ADHD until 40, cripes. I’m slowly improving the fatigue I’ve had for five years since age 38 and the back problem that began as a teenager (abc chiropractor finally stabilising things, cranio-sacral some too, and somatic practise to unfreeze the nervous system, all back and forth, and slow). The bleakest thoughts make my head jerk to the side and it’s been dismissed along with mixing up words cos they’re related rather than random like a more serious thing would cause. GPs have been fairly good overall otherwise, but ignorance and lack of funding can be ruinous.
To go straight to psychiatry especially when someone’s had a fever, that’s a disgrace beyond, and being a young woman isn’t a sign saying “break your oath doc, first do me harm”.
The sooner we get how very connected things are, the better.
Great to see this issue getting more attention! There have been so many advancements in medicine but in many cases practice is so far behind updated knowledge from research.
Happened to me as well. I had hypoglycemia episodes and they thought it was panic attacks and dissociation. This was mistaken for years and they gave me all kind of meds. I was sleepy a lot bc of my problem and they thought I was depressed... Eventually I developed paradoxical reactions to meds and they still were trying to give me more denying it and I was save by my mother. She removed all the meds and I immediately changed and stopped smoking, I got the right diagnosis and then I got my life back but they destroyed years of my life when I was a teen.
What is it called? I have similar symptoms
@@Timayy I had hyperinsulinemia and insuline resistance!
@@padmeasmr is this diabetes? How did u treat it?
@@Timayy no, it's not! It's the opposite but on the long run if you don't cure it you can become diabetic. I had to take a pill when I ate for a time, then be careful with the quantity and type of sugar I eat and do some exercise everyday. With time you can improve symptoms and tolerance to glucose but I'm not sure you can heal.
@@padmeasmr tysm, any idea how they tested this and confirmed it?
Something like this happened to me. My GP took it seriously. It was the specialists who dismissed abnormal scans and told me it was just stress. I'm only getting better now that I'm on treatment for the physical problem. I've paid a heavy price over many years for being dismissed like that. So I have no time for all this mind body talk from doctors who actually don't understand what they're dealing with. I used to be a doctor myself before I got sick, so I'm not totally ignorant.
I came in with stomach ache. Told the doctor my symptoms and he asked me if I had financial issues or was depressed. 😔 I told him to please run all the tests… he did in the end and found out I had E. coli bacteria from my dog. Since then, I stopped going to male doctors and only use a private paid service with a great female physician.
I have ME/CFS
Myalgic Encephalitis is so incredibly difficult to get a diagnosis.
The psychiatrist that I saw for year had me doing Graded Exercise Therapy and I often worry that the harm it did can never be undone.
excellent video.
The NHS do tend to try to put everything under the mental health category if they can. It's extremely rare that people with actual mental health problems get better with NHS care so it's not like they can diagnose you and when it doesn't help think they're wrong. Plus the drug companies for SSRIs and stuff like that give massive backhanders. I was stuck under the mental health service for nearly 30 years because they misdiagnosed my autism as a child & I didn't learn about autism until I was middle aged. I had to find out about it myself & put myself through the assessment before they admitted they'd made a mistake & let me go. The 30 years of mistreatment had massive affects on my health, not just because I wasn't getting any of the treatment I actually needed, but because I was being medically gaslit getting drugs and treatment I didn't need & punished for symptoms of autism. The SSRIs caused me seizures and I got punished for that too. Lets just say I didn't clap for the NHS during lockdown. They ruined my life & the closest I got to an apology is "oopsie"
I was misdiagnosed as having BPD/EUPD, and that diagnosis stuck for over 10 years until they figured out that I have autism. I'll bet there are lots of women like this. Women with autism are massively undiagnosed because it presents differently in women than it does in men. It doesn't help that NHS services are hugely underfunded, and so the clinician can't spend time with the patients to make a proper diagnosis or administer treatment once diagnosis is made.
@@Miss-Anne-Thrope I'm so sorry that happened to you. Unfortunately yeh there are. Us two is two too many. You've hit the nail on the head with the reasons why.
I was dignosed adhd dyslexic dyspraxia epilepsy as a kid then by adult nhs put me under the adult team for my adhd they said i have bipolar bpd and more i faught after being locked in phyc wards corectly dignosed in the pandemic adhd epilepsy dyspraxia dyslexia asd and now complex truma ur not alone im 35 in August
@@Miss-Anne-Thropesame
@@PixelTheExtraTerrestrial I wish I was mate. That's awful & I'm so sorry that happened to you. They really aren't nice to us in psyche wards are they? & If you try to explain what you're actually going through they get so angry while they disagree.
I have a hard time with this, I dated a very troubled girl who was in and out of hospitals since 2013 for self mutilation and suicide attempts. About two years ago she somehow got her diagnosis changed to having ADHD and I remember just feeling appalled given her extensive medical records. To me it almost feels like negligence
Neurodevelopmental disorders are often overlooked as the root cause
@@atheistbewildered2987 she was very different from anyone I know who has adhd. She was obsessive, always talking about needing control, over scheduled every aspect of her life, always concerned about her goal weight and had huge outbursts when things didn’t go exactly as she planned. She always said it came from not being able to control her thoughts. I just pray she actually gets the help she needs
People with neurodevelopmental disorders often have a higher rate of mental illnesses. She probably didn’t get her diagnosis ‘changed’ as such, just another explanation for some of her issues. I have severe OCD, Tourette syndrome, and ADHD. They are all genetically related.
@@Laurap01 it was just frustrating to me because they started replacing medications she had taken for years with adderall. I’m sure it’s just as you said and it’s all under control so thank you for sharing and helping me to understand
It’s exactly what it is; it’s sad tho that these women don’t have strong advocates unfortunately it’s what they need to be taken seriously
I had several dermatologists tell me psoriasis isn't painful until I eventually got one that understood it can be. I was there to treat an electrical burn and eventually it became an immune disorder I need treatments to control. I could not believe how misdiagnosed I was by several dermatologists in Boston where I expected good doctors. A lead dermatologist had to intervene and gave me treatments that saved life. But the fact the very first dermatologist tried to convince me it was nothng serious and I was just an angry white man was just unbelievable.
Thanks!
My niece had anxiety, depression and different body pains. The doctors told her she needed a psychiatrist, so she went. Even ended up in the psychiatric ward for 3 days. Turned out it was POTS. Because the heart is beating so fast 160-180 at times, she was filled with feelings of anxiety. The inability to get help triggered the depression. All pains were related to her nervous system gone crazy. She ended up on IVs given 2+ bags of saline fluids several times a month. After 12 months on POTS medication, physical therapy, message therapy specific to POTS and IV therapy, it was finally controlled. She has flare ups and her doctors are all POTS specialists in their specific specialties. It required a high risk Obstetrician and Maternalist for her 2 pregnancies. But it was not a psychiatric problem. It will be a lifetime condition that is incurable. But it is manageable.
I have anemia that should be treated with vitamin b12 and I take metformin that further depletes b12 levels so my dr prescribed b12 supplements and suggested a specific type and brand. This was methylated cobalamin and methylated folate and p5p. I started having all of these bizarre symptoms that didn't make sense and I told her continuously that I didn't feel good and that something was wrong. I went to every chiropractor, faith healer and medium in the area trying to figure it out. No luck. I was sick to my stomach 4-6 hours per day. I couldn't be far from a bathroom. I was experiencing extreme depression and extreme anxiety. I couldn't sleep. I was hypersensitive. My dr started prescribing more meds and more psych meds for the anxiety. I told her I wanted to die. Come to find out, due to my own research, it was the b12/b6 supplement and xylitol and I'm an over methylator. I had to figure this out on my own.
> I went to every chiropractor, faith healer and medium
Worthless individuals, but I understand your desperation.
What do you mean, did you lower your b12/b6 or get another source
Watching the BBC sent me to a psychiatric hospital 😅
Then also, plenty of people end up in the nuthouse when all they had was a thyroid crisis - entirely physical, in other words.
Sounds like my story i also was diagn mentally ill it was thyroid to
@@JenniferMunro-xn2zs My friend who has thyroid problems says you can get into inky black depression and crazy anxiety, and even had dark thoughts about hurting people. Did any of that happen to you, Jennifer?
I had a brain haemorrhage that was misdiagnosed as schizophrenia, I spent 15 months in a "world-renowned" psychiatric hospital in London where I was denied painkillers for my headaches as they were classed as delusions. I was forced to take powerful antipsychotics against my will in the psychiatric hospital. When I was finally discharged I stopped taking the antipsychotics and then developed severe withdrawal psychosis. The withdrawal psychotics symptoms have lasted over a decade
It's a miracle they were even able to discover it after three weeks. Susannah Cahalan experienced the same thing, as told in her book Brain on Fire, but iirc it took them far longer. At the time the research was still new and not known to many doctors and she was lucky to have a doctor involved in the research able to attend to her.
My mom got Akathesia for a year, which was so terrible and I was on support groups on Facebook and so many people said that when they went to the hospital, they were given antipsychotic drugs or sent to the mental health ward of the hospital and it made things so much worse. I wish they would actually listen to people.
Sadly for most people, some doctors just aren't as interested in searching more, just go the "common" way and tend to overlook the symptoms. I personally think that being a medical student myself (since last year), has influenced a lot in reaching my correct diagnosis.
It would be interesting to know if this is way more common than we think.
3 years ago I told the doctor that I was feeling weak and didn't have the strenght to wake up. Was told that I had severe depression and they prescribed antidepressants (I left them because it didn't felt right) and recently, after MY insistence for more exams, it results that I have an autoinmune disease.
I know that it isn't a diagnose that most people want, but for me to receive this news wasn't that bad. I finally have a clue about what was and is happening to me, that it isn't all in my head and which correct treatment I should seek.
My uncle (15) went to the doctor with disorganised speech and fatique. His doctor send him home and ordered him to go to bed in a dark room becauße he thought he had a nervous breakdown. Three days later he died. It was an inflammation of the brain. My grandparents never recovered from that.
Oh dear.
Same sort of thing happened to me too. I was extremely fatigued and having stomach pain/bloody diarrhea. Only thing my GP did was this.. tested me for pregnancy even though I told her I wasn’t pregnant. Did some blood tests.. only thing on my bloodwork was that my vitamin D, iron, and b12 was low. She said to take a multivitamin and come back in six months. I came back repeatedly (3-4 times) saying that my symptoms were getting worse, but she did nothing except more blood work and pregnancy tests. She prescribed me antidepressants. Everyone was telling me that I was just stressed from my college classes. I got to the point where I fell on the floor after I was taking a shower one evening and I could not move. I had a fever of 103. I went to the doctor again and they prescribed me antibiotics. I got way worse after taking those and I thought I was going to die.. I was unable to move or eat or drink. My parents took me to the emergency room and it turns out I had mononucleosis and my liver was failing because of the antibiotics they gave me. Apparently with mono, you aren’t supposed to have antibiotics or it can cause liver issues. It took me two months to get better from that but I still felt extremely tired and was still having bloody diarrhea. I went to the doctor again, and was told that everything looked normal on my blood tests. I was tired of everything, so I went to a gastroenterologist and they did blood tests/stool sample. Everything was normal there. My doctor wanted to do a colonoscopy to see what was going on, and finally we got somewhere. They found colitis in my colon and gastritis in my stomach, and it’s looking like I have Crohn’s disease. Even then though, people are telling me that it’s just stress and everything will get better if I could just relax. I am not really a stressed individual.. I’m not sure why the medical industry is like this.
I don't know why the industry is like that. At times I will blame it on their generalized innate pride and arrogance, which might not be true, or maybe it is ...
Because they don’t care, it’s a moneymaker for them, people go into medicine for prestige and money and status. In many post communist countries they actually care to look after patients and help people. In U.K. 70% of doctors come from private school sectors. So u get why they look down on the population.
This sort of thing happens far too frequently!!! I have a complicated health history and I’ve had mental health issues but the two aren’t mutually exclusive although many doctors think they apparently are >.
20 years of managing my symptoms because my gp said no way I had gall stones. After my sister had her gall bladder removed( as two of my brothers had too) I insisted on a scan. The radiologist couldn't believe how many stones were there and how big.
Gall bladder removed and I can finally eat a normal meal in one sitting.
I’m a physician associate in the US. My first reaction before finishing the video (I’m at 0:57) is she needs neurological evaluation and brain imaging asap to make sure it’s not something affecting her brain be it infection, tumor, stroke, etc. Let’s see if I’m right.
1:41 I was right… that’s really disappointing that a GP missed this and the red flag symptoms didn’t prompt the correct course of action.
Kraepelin wrote about a concept called "autointoxication". It's not the same, but it is a distant ancestor of modern autoimmune and metabolic disorders.
Autointoxication, my mind did a b-line to ABS, or auto-brewery syndrome (also less formally called alcohol belly syndrome). Basically your gut makes you drunk, when you havent even looked at booze.
as soon as she mentioned the earlier symptoms i called it, i still remember the movie called "brain on fire" with chloe grace moretz
I am a mental health nurse. You must always rule out a physical. Cause before diagnosing a mental illness.
I wish the man had mentioned that often fnd is the harm done by psychose pils depression pils anxiety pils , sleeping 💊 . They destroy the brain and body
Exactly what I was thinking.
Yes. Antipsychotics gave me diagnosed cortico-subcortical brain atrophy, as well as other serious physical and neurological issues that appear in the prospect.
And they gave me those due to a misdiagnosis.
My grandson suddenly developed epilepsy a couple of years back. It's not a psychiatric condition but he gets better treatment in Psychiatric Intensive Care because they use less drugs. That's two different approaches to the same condition, in different wards of the same hospital. It's simply because the psychiatric nurses have been trained to restrain people without using more drugs to put the patient into a coma for a week, as they do in general intensive care. Those drugs have a horrendous impact on the mind and body. He was very frail and lost chunks of his memory that he can't recover. Totally disrupted his teenage years.
You know what also destroys the brain and body? Severe mental illness. These pills can be life saving.
Not at all surprising. In America right now doctors are prescribing antipsychotic drugs like candy to anyone with chronic pain without even bothering to find a reason?! People you have the right to say NOPE! Keep looking and be an advocate for yourself!
My brother was abusive for 5 years before he was diagnosed with cancer. We even had him in family therapy
Completely agreed
The film and book, Brain on Fire, written by Susannah Cahalan, details this exact experience too.
A very similar thing happened to my dad in the 2000s. He had a rare form of cancer that was missed by doctors as they thought it was in his head. I wish doctors could be trained on rarer illnesses and not send people away and dismiss them when they don't recognise their symptoms
FND should be diagnosis of exclusion. Why did they go other way around? Having aphasia and not do any brain imaging is a gross error.
Never been so glad to not be able to get a G.P appointment. Or that most Psychiatric hospitals are now closed in Australia 🙄
oooof im going down this road atm, bloods coming back normal but ive bleedng under the skin but doctors keep on telling me that it would show up on bloodwork if anything was there, had covid twice im type 1 diabetic but doctors keep talking about my mental health, this has been going on for 2 years sure im going crazy banging my head against brickwall
I was put into a psychosis ward here in Finland with a heart infarct
This actually happened to me too. I had an undiagnosed medical condition that caused me to go unconscious & lose control of my bodily functions. I was taken to the ER w/ these unconscious spells, & instead of treating me or giving any medical care, they put me in a psych ward, suicide watch. I found out Years later I have an autoimmune disorder called pots. I'm really sorry you had to go thru this Hanna😭. Dr's are Very Quick to dismiss Women w/ mental illness when there is Always a medical condition attached to the symptoms. Even if a patient needs psych intervention in the form of meds, it would be nice if Dr's would look into the Root Illness as well; bc psych drugs Don't assist w/ physical illness. Thanks you so much for sharing this, I hope you're doing Amazing today❤️
I'm currently in hospital awaiting an urgent OP for a hysterectomy as i have a 17cm growth on one of my ovaries and my belly is so swollen i look pregnant.
I already have over a liter of fluid removed from my right llung as well. I had to call an ambulance as pain got so bad i almost passed out. For the past year my GP diagnosed my complaints as menopause belly, constipation or bloat... No scans, not even a blood test. And now I'm sitting here with a possible death sentence at 57yro... so i well believe what happened to her. Im not in UK but in Ireland. Edit: my constant exhaustion was diagnosed as "get used to it, you are getting older".
How are you doing now? I'm sorry the doctors didn't take you serious. 😢 Hope the surgery went well and you're feeling better 🙏🏻🌼
@tabby73 still in hospital, exactly 4 weeks today. Hysterectomy was done and sent in for biopsy, still waiting for results. I would be waiting at home but the fluid under the right lung came back...
@@dementedopossum8148 The fluid under your lung is hopefully also sent for testing? Don't give up hope. The GP let you down but now you are doing whats needed and are in better care. I wish you well! I wish for your test results to be good news. The uncertainty must be hard. 🙏🏻 Update if you feel like it. Do you have family/friends with you?
@tabby73 I got results from histology regarding fluid and growth. Fluid has no cancer cells but growth has. Endometrial cancer. But surgeon and oncologist think they got it on time. I'm still in hospital (5 weeks today) and tomorrow the treatment team is meeting to discuss how to proceed from here.
@@dementedopossum8148 better news than what was feared! Now you have a good chance to fight it and beat it. I'm glad for you they found it early enough that treatment can be effective. I hope you're feeling well 🌼💚 Will you go home soon?
I always understood you always check for medical causes before a mental health issue is diagnosed
Br extremely careful when dealing with the mental health team, especially in the UK, the hospitals are ghastly. Seek help at your own peril.
Oh my God I know just how she feels, I too was sent to a psychiatric hospital!
I have FND. It truly sucks.
They still don’t know really exactly what’s happening and what happened to me. I had a weird seizure like tick like reaction that I couldn’t control (no drugs or alcohol) nothing like that and I wondered if I had (after LOADS of personal research) to work out what happened and why I’ve never fully recovered and keep regressing back and forth up and down and have become like, well like all the negative aspects of autism (for me imo) have just gone much worse for me to function well and manage well and can’t work anymore.. the blood test said I don’t have it but… I have a complete absent ovemp reaction on the left side and now another thing and, I got tested at a brain centre and I have retained reflexes and loadsss of brain damage but they don’t diagnose- my GP told me to get on private health insurance but that takes a year or 2 to get into hospital, she wishes I could just be put into hospital until they work it out but here in Australia, they only otherwise take you in, in an emergency, everything else is waiting waiting & moree waiting . Saw a neurologist who was terrible…. Left there $500+ poorer cos all she came up with is that I had been dissociating and my GP couldn’t believe her and said if she only saw half the stuff I have on file she’d know better but I don’t want to go back.. it just sucks - I lost ALLLL my abilities just like her and on my own at home but also with lorazepam and then clonazepam I slowly regained some abilities back and some functioning. But the psych NEVER WILL AND NEVER DOES give me enough to be fully recovered. So I had to research like a maniac to FINALLY find what I think will FINALLY help me cos he won’t medicate me properly and there’s just nowhere near enough specialists in QLD Brisbane Australia, to know how to treat me or exactly what’s wrong, I definitely have a peripheral vestibular disorder and proprioception is off and I’m on and off verbal and non and same with all my abilities, not linear ever..
I WONDER if I have MS and rheumatoid arthritis- I have soooo many symptoms with so many things like organs and joints, dizziness, weakness, gastrointestinal- flare ups of each.
I am currently doing photobiomodulation therapy, which, MAY VERY WELL, heal WHATEVER this is, as it heals brain damage and heals SO MANY THINGS.
Please send me your well wishes if you actually read this far. I definitely look crazy writing all this I’m sure 😅😂😂
Lastly , I know I can get more tests for day MS or even the spinal tap to check if I do have NMDA Encephalitis.. but hhhh I’m so over tests now. I get shutdowns and/or overload (other way around) everywhere I go and everyone I talk too so, it’s just too much - I’m just placing all my hopes on this new therapy . Thanks for reading 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌
You lost me at "flu-like symptoms so was prescribed an anti-depressant".
That’s America
@@atheistbewildered2987 Which is a very interesting thing to declare about an event which happened in Dublin, Ireland.
@@atheistbewildered2987that’s world wide unfortunately
It's like the movie Brain on Fire. Scary!
gps don’t need to know more about encephalitis, but they absolutely should know when to send a pt for mri and neurology!!! wtf
biggest fear i literally , just to be sure, eliminated that ever possibly being a reality hahaha because wtf. the thought that someone could have you institutionalized based on their opinion of your behavior is fucking crazyyyyyyyy
truly horrifying. especially when you realise their misdiagnosis is killing you by putting you on the wrong medicines and depriving the correct diagnosis and medicines. modern medicine is always limited due to the human decision making process. maybe we might benefit from smarter systems for diagnosis.
However, it does sound as if the psychiatrists didn't just park her on anti-psychotics but did further investigations which eventually lead to the correct diagnosis. So good mental health care also involves looking at a person's physical health too.
They would drug you automatically because they can tell you were high when you wrote this comment
That is literally psychiatry
@@aeh323actually it's the first thing that is supposed to be done. You're not supposed to be able to diagnose someone with a psychosomatic disorder unless you've ruled out all physical causes first. Psychosomatic disorders are the VERY last thing you can diagnose.Her gp didn't give her an MRI, nor even send her to neurologist! They just jumped to conclusions immediately that she was mentally ill with zero proof. And then they interned her. and put her on psychology's worst and most dangerous medicines. Mental health diagnosis is not supposed to be based on assumptions but on science and her Dr. Did not do their due diligence. I'm a bit fed up with dr.s everywhere not bothering to follow basic diagnostic guidelines. Basically today, if a woman comes in with vague or what the doctor considers to be strange symptoms they will before anything else be told to meditate, do yoga destress, take an antidepressant or lose weight without any other medical examination. it's a real problem. We've never really abandoned the hysterical woman model of medicine that dates to the 19th century!
I was told it's psychosomatic, but i know that i can trust my intuition that something is wrong with my body. It's frustating not being understood and believed. Often they don't bother to make more tests
Is this the same as "brain on fire" Movie/book?
It took me 7 years to get diagnosed with me/cfs
Same for my son, at 15, always a poor student, he smiles a joint and put himself in the physch ward to get out of exams, I told him if he didn't come home with me.... It took us lawyers to get hosp and gouv off our backs, he's now a nurse, it was all a money maker for them!
Brain on fire, movie on Netflix, reminds me of this, almost identical.
My GP told me and wrote in my notes..." gallic temperament " ..when I had bad period pains and was upset. Guess what, I had endometriosis.
There are top doctors in UK who do this regularly M.E. is treated as Psychosomatic when in reality it is pathophysiological. These same top Doctors ignore NICE guidelines on M.E. which were introduced by caring and much more medically professional then they are.
My life was put at risk by being misdiagnosed by an arrogant orthopedic doctor who dismissed my intermittent severe left-side back pain as "too lazy to exercise". So I exercised more but the pain only got worse. This went on for a year. Then while having an ultrasound for another issue it was discovered that my left kidney was enlarged. An MRI found that I had a grapefruit sized angiomyolipoma on my left kidney. The specialist/surgeon who subsequently removed it (plus what was left of my destroyed kidney) said if it had burst, which they often do, I would have bled out internally.
Yeah I lost trust in doctors there ngl
Sorry consultant psychiatrist here, routine bloods are always done but this is a very rare presentation so would usually take a while to work out unless there are some clear flags.
I started in 1998 and this wasn’t even testable then, it’s a relatively newly discovered syndrome and not commonly looked for initially (again as it’s very rare)
This makes me so angry 😡😡😡