So good!!! And regarding 1,000 years in Rev. 20, I often think of Ps. 90:4 "For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday When it is past, and as a watch in the night".
Just a thought: What is all 3 positions are correct? Pre-trib rapture happens then the 7 years of Daniel's 70th week occurs then those pre raptured will come down with the Lord and meet the tribulation saints in the clouds and then the Lord defeats Satan and immediately move into the eternal new haven and new earth... Again just theorizing.
A Millennium Puzzle to solve… Will Christ be conducting funeral services for mortals killed in accidents 500 years after His Second Coming? The “first resurrection” in Rev. chapter 20 is not the first bodily resurrection in the Book of Revelation, because the two witnesses are resurrected from the dead in chapter 11. There are two different types of resurrection in John chapter 5. There is a spiritual resurrection from the dead in John 5:24, and a bodily resurrection from the dead in John 5:28-29. Does your view of the Millennium agree with what Paul said in 2 Thess. 1:7-10, when Paul said Christ returns in "flaming fire" taking vengeance on those who do not obey the Gospel? The fire comes at the end of Rev. chapter 20. Does your view agree with what Peter said in 2 Peter 3:10-13, when Peter said this earth is going to burn and "dissolve" when He comes as a thief on the day of the Lord? The fire comes at the end of Rev. chapter 20. Does your view agree with what Paul said in 2 Tim. 4:1, when Paul said both the living and the dead will be judged at His appearing? The time of the judgment of the dead, with reward for some and destruction for others is found in Rev. 11:18, right after the 7th trumpet, which is the last trumpet in the Bible. (This verse also proves the Book of Rev. is not in chronological order.) The judgment of the dead is also found at the end of Rev. chapter 20. Does your view agree with what Jesus said in Matt. 25:31-46, where He described the judgment of the sheep and goats, which leaves no mortals alive on the planet at the end of the passage? There are also no mortals left alive on the planet at the end of Rev. chapter 19. Does your view agree with Peter in 2 Pet. 2:4, and Jude in Jude 1:6, when they both said wicked angels are already in chains of darkness? Does your view agree with what John recorded in Rev. 9:1-2, when an angel comes down from heaven with a key to unlock the pit, which means the pit was locked before that time? Are there wicked angels already in the pit in Rev. 9:11? John recorded angels already "bound" in Rev. 9:14. The beast "ascends" out of the pit in Rev. chapter 11, which means the beast was in the pit before that time. Take all of the above and compare it to the symbolic language found in Rev. chapter 20, and the fact the Book of Revelation is not in chronological order, and you will have the truth. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Multiple Second Coming Visions in Revelation: (book not in chronological order ) Christ returns one time in the future. However, there are several different visions of His return shown from different perspectives in the Book of Revelation. Christ returns at the end of Revelation chapter 6, with signs in the sun, moon, and stars, as are found in the Olivet Discourse. Those at the end of the chapter are hiding from the wrath of the Lamb. Why would they be hiding if Christ is not present? The "kings", "captains", "might men", "free", and "bond" are also found in chapter 19 at the return of Christ. He returns at the 7th trumpet, which is the last trumpet in the Bible, and the time of the judgment of the dead in Revelation 11:15-18. The beginning of chapter 12 is a history lesson containing the fall of Satan, and the birth and death of Christ, who is the seed promised to crush the head of Satan in Genesis 3:15. The Second Coming is found in the "harvest" of chapter 14, which is related to the parable of the wheat and tares in Matthew chapter 13. He comes as a thief at Armageddon, and we find the greatest earthquake in history in chapter 16. This occurs when the 7th angel pours out his vial. How powerful is an earthquake which moves islands and destroys the mountains? What is happening to the planet? He comes on a horse in chapter 19. Chapter 20? Does He come with the fire, and the judgment of the dead at the end of chapter 20, which agrees with what Paul said in 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10, and 2 Timothy 4:1? (The time of the judgment of the dead is also found in Revelation 11:18.) There are no mortals left alive on the planet at the end of Matthew 25:31-46. Why does an angel come down from heaven with a key to unlock the bottomless pit in Revelation 9:1-2, if the pit was not already locked before that time? Are there wicked angels in the pit in Rev. 9:11? If the beast "ascends" from the pit in Rev. chapter 11, where was the beast before that time? Does your view agree with Peter in 2 Pet. 2:4, and Jude in Jude 1:6, when they both said wicked angels are already in chains of darkness? Revelation 9:14 proves some of the angels were previously bound in some manner. Because the two witnesses were bodily resurrected from the dead in Revelation 11, the "first resurrection" at the beginning of Revelation 20 is not the first bodily resurrection in the book. The principle of "Recapitulation" means there are multiple visions of His return.
In Church history it is to be noted that Clement and Origen of Alexandria were influenced by Greek and Gnostic philosophy. These guys as well as many known Gnostics showed strong opposition to the Apostle John and his book of the Revelation. These heretical teachers used a pagan form of allegorising that defies the language of the Hebrew Scriptures, Augustine in his ignorance of God’s prophetic Sabbatical and Jubilee calendars, proceeded to add and take away from the Hebrew narrative. The book of Revelation is written in parallel to the understanding of Hebrew prophecy, it can not be understood by using a pagan setting to allegorise the millennium reign of Christ, as Revelation 19 and 20 have its references and parallel with Daniel 7. Note that John tells us what the duration of a season and a time is, a thousand years to rule over the nations.
@@bigtobacco1098 Christianity is rooted in Hebrew culture, it can not be blended in paganism and their satanic historic revisionism of history. A-millennialism is not a Christian or Jewish eschatology, in fact it is an antisemitic ideology.
What if we can understand, but only if we are willing to humble ourselves and accept things that seem impossible? What If God does have a people that he has chosen to be enlightened and has called them to help the church but the church as a whole is not willing to accept it? Cognitive dissonance is real and though we want to believe that we can disagree on these things, what if it actually turns out that those who are blind will be lost because they didnt understand things ( wasnt this true of the pharisees?) or will deceive the church? Think of the hetetics, think of dispensationalism or any teaching that is contrary to Scripture. Will God hold them to account who teach things that actually help Satan's plans? Can we go on supporting evil if we know its evil?
The man of sin and son of perdition in 2 Thessalonians 2 is the succession of Popes i.e. the Papacy. Compare the little horn of Daniel 7, also a reference to the Papacy and Mystery Babylon and the great whore of Revelation 17 & 18...all refer to the Papacy, that great pretend church which was "drunk with the blood of the saints". Amillennialism is undoubtedly correct, and dispensationalism undoubtedly very wrong, but never forget that the great Reformers of the 16th and 17th centuries held that the Papacy was the little horn, man of sin and the whore of Revelation. And they were right! P.S. I edit a Christian newspaper in the UK
So good!!!
And regarding 1,000 years in Rev. 20, I often think of Ps. 90:4 "For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday When it is past, and as a watch in the night".
Dr. Sam IS MOST DEF a Storm!! epic achievements .. and so humble..🙏🏻❤️🔥
I'm so glad to hear Dr. Storms explanation!
Just a thought: What is all 3 positions are correct? Pre-trib rapture happens then the 7 years of Daniel's 70th week occurs then those pre raptured will come down with the Lord and meet the tribulation saints in the clouds and then the Lord defeats Satan and immediately move into the eternal new haven and new earth... Again just theorizing.
Its impossible if you understand 1 corinth 15 correctly.
the raptured do not return. this heavens and eath are destroyed.
hi
A Millennium Puzzle to solve… Will Christ be conducting funeral services for mortals killed in accidents 500 years after His Second Coming?
The “first resurrection” in Rev. chapter 20 is not the first bodily resurrection in the Book of Revelation, because the two witnesses are resurrected from the dead in chapter 11. There are two different types of resurrection in John chapter 5. There is a spiritual resurrection from the dead in John 5:24, and a bodily resurrection from the dead in John 5:28-29.
Does your view of the Millennium agree with what Paul said in 2 Thess. 1:7-10, when Paul said Christ returns in "flaming fire" taking vengeance on those who do not obey the Gospel? The fire comes at the end of Rev. chapter 20.
Does your view agree with what Peter said in 2 Peter 3:10-13, when Peter said this earth is going to burn and "dissolve" when He comes as a thief on the day of the Lord? The fire comes at the end of Rev. chapter 20.
Does your view agree with what Paul said in 2 Tim. 4:1, when Paul said both the living and the dead will be judged at His appearing? The time of the judgment of the dead, with reward for some and destruction for others is found in Rev. 11:18, right after the 7th trumpet, which is the last trumpet in the Bible. (This verse also proves the Book of Rev. is not in chronological order.) The judgment of the dead is also found at the end of Rev. chapter 20.
Does your view agree with what Jesus said in Matt. 25:31-46, where He described the judgment of the sheep and goats, which leaves no mortals alive on the planet at the end of the passage? There are also no mortals left alive on the planet at the end of Rev. chapter 19.
Does your view agree with Peter in 2 Pet. 2:4, and Jude in Jude 1:6, when they both said wicked angels are already in chains of darkness?
Does your view agree with what John recorded in Rev. 9:1-2, when an angel comes down from heaven with a key to unlock the pit, which means the pit was locked before that time? Are there wicked angels already in the pit in Rev. 9:11? John recorded angels already "bound" in Rev. 9:14. The beast "ascends" out of the pit in Rev. chapter 11, which means the beast was in the pit before that time.
Take all of the above and compare it to the symbolic language found in Rev. chapter 20, and the fact the Book of Revelation is not in chronological order, and you will have the truth.
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Multiple Second Coming Visions in Revelation: (book not in chronological order )
Christ returns one time in the future. However, there are several different visions of His return shown from different perspectives in the Book of Revelation.
Christ returns at the end of Revelation chapter 6, with signs in the sun, moon, and stars, as are found in the Olivet Discourse.
Those at the end of the chapter are hiding from the wrath of the Lamb.
Why would they be hiding if Christ is not present?
The "kings", "captains", "might men", "free", and "bond" are also found in chapter 19 at the return of Christ.
He returns at the 7th trumpet, which is the last trumpet in the Bible, and the time of the judgment of the dead in Revelation 11:15-18.
The beginning of chapter 12 is a history lesson containing the fall of Satan, and the birth and death of Christ, who is the seed promised to crush the head of Satan in Genesis 3:15.
The Second Coming is found in the "harvest" of chapter 14, which is related to the parable of the wheat and tares in Matthew chapter 13.
He comes as a thief at Armageddon, and we find the greatest earthquake in history in chapter 16. This occurs when the 7th angel pours out his vial. How powerful is an earthquake which moves islands and destroys the mountains? What is happening to the planet?
He comes on a horse in chapter 19.
Chapter 20?
Does He come with the fire, and the judgment of the dead at the end of chapter 20, which agrees with what Paul said in 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10, and 2 Timothy 4:1?
(The time of the judgment of the dead is also found in Revelation 11:18.)
There are no mortals left alive on the planet at the end of Matthew 25:31-46.
Why does an angel come down from heaven with a key to unlock the bottomless pit in Revelation 9:1-2, if the pit was not already locked before that time? Are there wicked angels in the pit in Rev. 9:11? If the beast "ascends" from the pit in Rev. chapter 11, where was the beast before that time?
Does your view agree with Peter in 2 Pet. 2:4, and Jude in Jude 1:6, when they both said wicked angels are already in chains of darkness?
Revelation 9:14 proves some of the angels were previously bound in some manner.
Because the two witnesses were bodily resurrected from the dead in Revelation 11, the "first resurrection" at the beginning of Revelation 20 is not the first bodily resurrection in the book.
The principle of "Recapitulation" means there are multiple visions of His return.
spirits are not resurrected, only bodies.
Interesting post.
In Church history it is to be noted that Clement and Origen of Alexandria were influenced by Greek and Gnostic philosophy. These guys as well as many known Gnostics showed strong opposition to the Apostle John and his book of the Revelation. These heretical teachers used a pagan form of allegorising that defies the language of the Hebrew Scriptures, Augustine in his ignorance of God’s prophetic Sabbatical and Jubilee calendars, proceeded to add and take away from the Hebrew narrative.
The book of Revelation is written in parallel to the understanding of Hebrew prophecy, it can not be understood by using a pagan setting to allegorise the millennium reign of Christ, as Revelation 19 and 20 have its references and parallel with Daniel 7. Note that John tells us what the duration of a season and a time is, a thousand years to rule over the nations.
One return not 3
Amillenialism does not = allegorization.
Thousand... does christ reign over only a thousand cattle ??? Exactly ?? Is a thousand literal every time in scripture ??
@@bigtobacco1098 Christianity is rooted in Hebrew culture, it can not be blended in paganism and their satanic historic revisionism of history. A-millennialism is not a Christian or Jewish eschatology, in fact it is an antisemitic ideology.
What if we can understand, but only if we are willing to humble ourselves and accept things that seem impossible? What If God does have a people that he has chosen to be enlightened and has called them to help the church but the church as a whole is not willing to accept it? Cognitive dissonance is real and though we want to believe that we can disagree on these things, what if it actually turns out that those who are blind will be lost because they didnt understand things ( wasnt this true of the pharisees?) or will deceive the church? Think of the hetetics, think of dispensationalism or any teaching that is contrary to Scripture. Will God hold them to account who teach things that actually help Satan's plans? Can we go on supporting evil if we know its evil?
The pharisees added to God's word.
The man of sin and son of perdition in 2 Thessalonians 2 is the succession of Popes i.e. the Papacy. Compare the little horn of Daniel 7, also a reference to the Papacy and Mystery Babylon and the great whore of Revelation 17 & 18...all refer to the Papacy, that great pretend church which was "drunk with the blood of the saints". Amillennialism is undoubtedly correct, and dispensationalism undoubtedly very wrong, but never forget that the great Reformers of the 16th and 17th centuries held that the Papacy was the little horn, man of sin and the whore of Revelation. And they were right!
P.S. I edit a Christian newspaper in the UK
the ac is not the pope. we do not know who he is.