I think the reason for the explosion not affecting ganon's upb is that ganon's move doesn't use a flame/explosion effect, instead it has the electric effect, which extends it's hitstun and duration, probably messing with the timing combination of both explosions and the knockback. it also has a different knockback angle from falcon dive... just guessing with the wiki, I can't really know xD
@@captainphoton1693 Yes but also no Electric moves still cause more hitstop than other moves, the frames where both characters are frozen when a character is hit so that the players have mental time to recognize what happened Turns out Ultimate's patch notes confusingly referred to hitstop as hitstun back when it still received updates despite hitstun being a different thing which means electric moves do affect "hitstun" but not the right hitstun, lmao
@@captainphoton1693 Hey sorry to pull you back to this, but yeah I went wiki dwelling for a little bit. In smash 4 exclusively, electricity added exactly +1 frame of hitstun to the attack. This is applied alongside the 1.5x hitlag. Also from this wiki dwelling is the unfortunate knowledge that Electric Wind God Fist isnt even electric. Hate that.
@@sicklysweetdenouement the ewgf fact is fucking baffling. Also yes I already knew all that (except the ewgf, I'm gonna tel my whole bloodline to curse you) but this doesn't aply to smash ultimate. It's pretty old I don't remember what I was even arguing for.
I’m sure you’ve gotten this plenty but it makes me so happy seeing your growth as a content creator! I’ve always watched your videos for the interesting smash bros information but it hit me on this video in particular that I was enjoying your presentation as much as the smash stuff. Cleverly written, cleanly edited, well paced. Great work! I hope you feel proud 😊
For a random PKBeats fact, he happened to appear in a Soundsmith TF2 video uploaded the same day as this one, titled "The Immersive Sniper" as a sniper in the very last clip of the episode.
I'm convinced you and PJiggles are co-operating to release videos around the same time, so that we get in the mood for Smash facts and then have another video to go to for more. :P
13:54 yeah when 2 hitboxes of differing angles hit at the same time the game does an average angle between the two We Robins know that through Arcfire -> Dair sending at a brutal angle for example
I like the idea of calling Lucas’s invincibility tech “Aeolia’s Needle”, since the animation resembles him pulling a needle, and Aeolia’s needle is the first one in Mother 3 to not be pulled by Lucas, it’s pulled by Masked Man
8:04 Here’s a neat little thing you can do to circumvent this. There’s a spirit in the Min-Min dlc, (I believe it’s called Headlock?) Where, it has the ability to increase your size when you have a large enough percent. Try it with that?
Im calling the Lucas Tech PSI Block. It's a reference to a move that Ninten learns in EarthBound Beginnings. It's a PSI move that blocks enemy PSI moves in the game, and here its a PSI move that blocks enemy moves
I wonder if the difference between falcon dive and dark dive has to do with where they hold the explosive. Falcon holds it above and away from the target, so the explosion sends them downwards, while Ganondorf holds it more straight to the side, so the explosion sends them sideways
Your previous “Anti Steve” tech, the Juicy Lucy is actually just as if not more useful against other characters in a team match with Steve as your ally. Scince you can actually co-ordinate with him to set it up.
From what I can gather, the reason Falcon Dive launches at that weird angle whenever a held explosive goes off is due to the animation of the move. You can see that the hand holding the item is higher than the attack's "origin", thus it sends downward. Meanwhile you have Ganondorf's Dark Dive animation, which appears to put both of his hands at roughly the same vertical height, so there wouldn't be any changes to the angle.
So the Up Smash Cancel is actually really similar to a tech found in many other fighting games called 'Kara Cancelling', where you interrupt the start-up of a normal with a special/grab. Usually you want to use either a normal with quick forward movement or invincibility. You can see the idea of cancelling a far-reaching normal into a grab in most street fighter games, as an example.
You can actually Kara Cancel with Ryu and Ken too in this game. Down Smash can be canceled into specials without hitting anything if you do it on certain frames.
@@just-linx8271 So does Terry! Canceling jab 2 into any special is an incredibly common combo tool that you see comp terry do alot. Wiki says that only these 3 bros got access to Kara canceling, and its sick that they implemented this into their kit. Kazuya didnt get it because (to my knowledge, I dont play it) Tekken doesnt really have Kara. It's no kara-buster, but it's still awesome.
@@sicklysweetdenouement I know you can chain into specials. You're saying jab 2 for Terry can be kara'd into an input? Doesn't seem that useful because it doesn't step Terry forward enough to give him extra range. You might as well either land it and then normal cancel into an input special or just use the input special by itself. Kara cancels for Ken and Ryu are better because they can do it off of down-Smash, so Kara-ing into a Tatsu makes them fling forward because the game incorrectly thinks they are further forward than they actually are, even more so on Ken. Edit: Alright, so I looked it up, and you are somewhat correct. Terry can Kara-Cancel from d-tilt, f-tilt, u-tilt, and three aerials (which are all but one of Terry's cancelable moves). Jab2 is *not* one of these. You can normal cancel out of it, but you can't Kara Cancel out of it. Not that you'd want to anyway, you might as well just do the input special by itself.
@@just-linx8271 Aight so now I just checked, and now we're both somewhat correct. Jabs 1 and 2 CAN be kara'd, but the combo I was thinking of was people interrupting Jab 3 normally into F or U specials. Jab 3 cant be kara'd, but it doesnt seem to matter since its a true combo anyhow. The only actually real Kara-based combo I can think of now is F-tilt into F-special.
Village's tree changes size in the pot. I dont think the size of the tree changes its damage and knockback output though, but it's really funny to see that the tree stays small even when you break the pot it is trapped in.
Great video, Also, I would like to call the Lucas parry tech, The L Hop (not very creative I know) but hopefully I win cause I want that free breadstick >:)
The Lucas up smash tech is called the Lucas Ooo a piece of candy tech. Because it looks like he found a piece of candy on the ground before he cancels the up smash.
Something that tends to work for Pokemon names is if you're reading the name that's used in English versions of the game, just pronounce it the way an American would be likely to read it. It's usually right because they're usually just English words smashed together. Even the weird-looking ones usually are. Examples: Smear + beagle = Smeargle. Sable + eye = Sableye.
Did you know that to see Kirby’s free fall animation, in warioware once the stage transformation is ending you use Kirby’s up b, right when the stages land turns into the a pit, so Kirby uses up b, but then gets paused by the stage transformation and goes into free fall!
14:07 this combined knockback this is not explosion specific. Ice climbers have it happen often when connecting both hits of fair. it sends at a similarily nasty angle because it's both the spike and the non spike.
If you use Lucas up-b grounded, he has a stern expression. In the air, though, he has a shocked expression, maybe because he’s like: “Wait, I gotta hit myself? Oh crap” or somethin
If I had a nickel for every game I play having a 2-frame reaction to nullify any damage, I’d have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird it happened twice.
For the Lucas tech I think we can call it up smash kara cancelling. It it an advanced tech that can be used in more traditionnal fgc. Basically a kara cancel is when you can cancel the startup of a move by another. Normaly it is implemnted by the devs to allow a player to correct the inputs if you are not frame perfect. For example if for a move you have to press 2 buttons at the same time, there is a chance that the player will not press both of them exacly at the same frame, so what will happen is the game will cancel the startup of the move by the one you wanted. But player quickly found out that some move can have interesting properties on the startup (fowrard momentum, invincibility etc). Example is chun li in street fighter 3 3rd strike where she can cancel the start up of one of her kick whick have a lot of forward momentum into her grab, so she will basically have a huge range grab (and we call it kara throw) What Lucas is doing is exaclty the same thing. Using an intersting property of a move to enhanced another one. There is an incredible video explaining kara cancelling in fighting games: th-cam.com/video/uj1B-a12sPU/w-d-xo.html
Not sure about this one since Kara Cancelling is actually implemented in the game, seperate from interruptibility. Ryu, Ken, and Terry all have it on many of their moves, and Terry in particular pretty much always cancels Jab2 into a special of their choice.
As a lucas main, this is the tip of the iceberg 😼 As an example, Lucas can just kill ZSS (his worst matchup) at 0 if he up b drills into the floor correctly as theres a certain hitbox that just sends zss straight into the blastzone. how fun!
I was eating Triscuits, Cheese, and Salami. I put each of them into little sandwiches. I feel like a kid on the lunch playground, watching cool facts about a video game I like.
Lucas up smash tech is called Upsmash Parry to Destroy Other Gamers
whats Upsmash Parry to Destroy Other Gamers?
UPDOG
@@nerdyfalco408 nothing much how about you
WHERE BREAD STICK???????
what’s updog
Lucas Upsmash Cancel Air Strike
Or “LUCAS” for short
L in lucas stands for lucas
@@darkduckpl9620Yeah, I main LUCAS
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This is what I wanted to see
I'll call Lucas's invincible upsmash cancel "Motherly Hug" because his mom is protecting him.
Blessed 🌻💞
Fitting but also sad 😢
@@MishKoz yeah 😔
but she's dead
@@Wakem84yes... that's the point... Hinawa protects Lucas throughout his adventure, have you not played the game?-
we should call the Lucas tech the "noooo you can't hit meeeee i'm just a little guyyyy" trick
I guess you didn’t notice that it was abbreviated to ASSHAT
@@KLightning18 He said we could name the one with the Up Smash
@@GreenDog3 yeah didn’t watch to that point yet
3:13 "ASSHAT" You are SO creative, PKBeats
Ass hat
Came here for ASSHAT tech
Melee Yoshi called he wants his parry back
Nuh uh, LOW TIER!
And the extra 4 frames
Whomp whomp
5:34 Call that the PK Parry.
As a Lucas main, I approve
As a Pichu main, i approve
As an Inkling main, I approve
As a Mii brawler main (i am not joking), i approve
As a Corrin main, I approve.
The new Lucas tech should be called Hastily Inputted Nullification of an Airward Weighty Attack, or HINAWA.
That's messed up-
That’s so fucked, you’re so fucked up.
I don't get it
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I get it now
@@JER3M1AH221 explain.
@@itscznben8728 Hinawa is his mother's name. She's dead.
I think we should call the Up Smash tech:
Lucas's
Invincible
Grounded
Movement
Attack
☠️
"who the hell is up smash"
But it's not grounded, though. LIAMA?
LIGMA😂😂😂
So sad that Porky Minch died of Lucas's Invincible Grounded Movement Attack...
5:40
call it the
Lucas
Up-smash
Cancel
Aerial
Shield
or LUCAS for short
The Lucas Lucas tech
Apparently the upsmash is called PK SMASH GEYSER so why not Geyser Parry? or PK parry if you are boring
I’d probably call it Geyser Parry or Geyser Tech
Oh, you could call it PK Power Shield after the Earthbound PSI tecnhique of the same name!
Stuff like that is why Lucas is so fun to watch. A tech-heavy character that’s not too op in any regard
New Lucas tech can be called (Ground aerial yield safety)
GAYS
I might have to main Lucas again 🤑
8:25 that seriously jumpscared me so much harder than you believe what the hell man
I think the reason for the explosion not affecting ganon's upb is that ganon's move doesn't use a flame/explosion effect, instead it has the electric effect, which extends it's hitstun and duration, probably messing with the timing combination of both explosions and the knockback. it also has a different knockback angle from falcon dive... just guessing with the wiki, I can't really know xD
The electric effect increasing hit stun isn't a thing in ultimate... Right?
@@captainphoton1693 Yes but also no
Electric moves still cause more hitstop than other moves, the frames where both characters are frozen when a character is hit so that the players have mental time to recognize what happened
Turns out Ultimate's patch notes confusingly referred to hitstop as hitstun back when it still received updates despite hitstun being a different thing which means electric moves do affect "hitstun" but not the right hitstun, lmao
@@user-jw2it4qf2r so I'm right with the comon language. XD.
I know it has more hitstop. But in older games it also gave more histun.
@@captainphoton1693 Hey sorry to pull you back to this, but yeah I went wiki dwelling for a little bit. In smash 4 exclusively, electricity added exactly +1 frame of hitstun to the attack. This is applied alongside the 1.5x hitlag.
Also from this wiki dwelling is the unfortunate knowledge that Electric Wind God Fist isnt even electric. Hate that.
@@sicklysweetdenouement the ewgf fact is fucking baffling.
Also yes I already knew all that (except the ewgf, I'm gonna tel my whole bloodline to curse you) but this doesn't aply to smash ultimate. It's pretty old I don't remember what I was even arguing for.
Anti Steve tech 🔥
He doesn’t need to get banned now because of these videos
@@Xachpro5475smash players when the counterplay to a character is to be creative (the can't turn their brain off so the character is broken)
I’m sure you’ve gotten this plenty but it makes me so happy seeing your growth as a content creator! I’ve always watched your videos for the interesting smash bros information but it hit me on this video in particular that I was enjoying your presentation as much as the smash stuff. Cleverly written, cleanly edited, well paced. Great work! I hope you feel proud 😊
For a random PKBeats fact, he happened to appear in a Soundsmith TF2 video uploaded the same day as this one, titled "The Immersive Sniper" as a sniper in the very last clip of the episode.
4:08 hey Smash players this is a Kara cancel! A lot of people use this term wrong but this is actually a pretty good example of it
How About, "Absolutely Safe Parry"?
As someone who played Mother 3 I approve
5:34 i declare that the superguard
I'm convinced you and PJiggles are co-operating to release videos around the same time, so that we get in the mood for Smash facts and then have another video to go to for more. :P
5:34 I think Lucas Throughcas
This is the best one by far, other than Updog
I'll call this the IJSMPT
Short for the I Just Shat My Pants Tech
“PK Counter” is a real PSI move in Mother 3. Since you’ll often input an attack after going invincible, it can be considered a counter of sorts.
13:54 yeah when 2 hitboxes of differing angles hit at the same time the game does an average angle between the two
We Robins know that through Arcfire -> Dair sending at a brutal angle for example
All 3 of you.
1:04
PK: you've got a lot of options for a punish.
Ness: Ok (calls in an airstrike)
I like the idea of calling Lucas’s invincibility tech “Aeolia’s Needle”, since the animation resembles him pulling a needle, and Aeolia’s needle is the first one in Mother 3 to not be pulled by Lucas, it’s pulled by Masked Man
8:04
Here’s a neat little thing you can do to circumvent this.
There’s a spirit in the Min-Min dlc, (I believe it’s called Headlock?)
Where, it has the ability to increase your size when you have a large enough percent.
Try it with that?
I LOVE that you're still doing SSBU vids! 😃
Im calling the Lucas Tech PSI Block. It's a reference to a move that Ninten learns in EarthBound Beginnings. It's a PSI move that blocks enemy PSI moves in the game, and here its a PSI move that blocks enemy moves
“ASSHAT” is PKBeat’s equivalent to “POOP” from SpongeBob
i think the tech should be called the psi burst parry, makes sense and sounds cool enough i think, and has a fun abbreviation of pbp
I wonder if the difference between falcon dive and dark dive has to do with where they hold the explosive. Falcon holds it above and away from the target, so the explosion sends them downwards, while Ganondorf holds it more straight to the side, so the explosion sends them sideways
Thank you for labeling the music you use🫡
Your previous “Anti Steve” tech, the Juicy Lucy is actually just as if not more useful against other characters in a team match with Steve as your ally. Scince you can actually co-ordinate with him to set it up.
The jokes and editing in this were top notch~! Got me laughing real hard multiple times~ ^w^💛
Both a new PJiggles and a PKBeats video on the same day? What a treat!
Fun fact: Lucas' upsmash is the only move in the game with both invincibility and intangibility.
The "Why do I hear boss music?.." tech. That is what the lucas tech should be called XD
From what I can gather, the reason Falcon Dive launches at that weird angle whenever a held explosive goes off is due to the animation of the move. You can see that the hand holding the item is higher than the attack's "origin", thus it sends downward. Meanwhile you have Ganondorf's Dark Dive animation, which appears to put both of his hands at roughly the same vertical height, so there wouldn't be any changes to the angle.
Just a reminder that Electric Wind God Fist is a 2 frame window
The same as this Lucas tech
And since Kazuya players can input it consistantly....
For Smash 6 Sakurai will secretly hire you in order to test the game make sure you no longer have weird bugs to talk about.
The food I am eating right now is pizza with stuffed crust!
So the Up Smash Cancel is actually really similar to a tech found in many other fighting games called 'Kara Cancelling', where you interrupt the start-up of a normal with a special/grab. Usually you want to use either a normal with quick forward movement or invincibility. You can see the idea of cancelling a far-reaching normal into a grab in most street fighter games, as an example.
You can actually Kara Cancel with Ryu and Ken too in this game. Down Smash can be canceled into specials without hitting anything if you do it on certain frames.
@@just-linx8271 So does Terry! Canceling jab 2 into any special is an incredibly common combo tool that you see comp terry do alot.
Wiki says that only these 3 bros got access to Kara canceling, and its sick that they implemented this into their kit. Kazuya didnt get it because (to my knowledge, I dont play it) Tekken doesnt really have Kara.
It's no kara-buster, but it's still awesome.
@@sicklysweetdenouement I know you can chain into specials. You're saying jab 2 for Terry can be kara'd into an input? Doesn't seem that useful because it doesn't step Terry forward enough to give him extra range. You might as well either land it and then normal cancel into an input special or just use the input special by itself.
Kara cancels for Ken and Ryu are better because they can do it off of down-Smash, so Kara-ing into a Tatsu makes them fling forward because the game incorrectly thinks they are further forward than they actually are, even more so on Ken.
Edit:
Alright, so I looked it up, and you are somewhat correct. Terry can Kara-Cancel from d-tilt, f-tilt, u-tilt, and three aerials (which are all but one of Terry's cancelable moves).
Jab2 is *not* one of these. You can normal cancel out of it, but you can't Kara Cancel out of it. Not that you'd want to anyway, you might as well just do the input special by itself.
@@just-linx8271 Aight so now I just checked, and now we're both somewhat correct. Jabs 1 and 2 CAN be kara'd, but the combo I was thinking of was people interrupting Jab 3 normally into F or U specials.
Jab 3 cant be kara'd, but it doesnt seem to matter since its a true combo anyhow.
The only actually real Kara-based combo I can think of now is F-tilt into F-special.
I must believe this is what Blucas went for when he kept up smashing with Lucas in tourney
Serious answer for the Lucas tech name: Smash Parry Aerial (SPAir)
Now that is the kind of tech I can get behind.
Village's tree changes size in the pot. I dont think the size of the tree changes its damage and knockback output though, but it's really funny to see that the tree stays small even when you break the pot it is trapped in.
1:08 wtf ahhaha
the
Parrying with
Upsmash for
Safe
Shields without
Yielding
manuver, classic
Also, we could call Lucas’ tech “Apocalypse Armor”, because
***SPOILERS***
Lucas’ needle pulling causes the apocalypse in his game. :3
I think that a good name for Lucas' tech would be "invincibility cancel", I think it just fits
Lucas tech should be called. Tanking Child. Like the Flying Child from brawl. But here he is tanking a move.
I watched this video while doing the dishes while I waited for the water to boil for some pasta
We should call it the out of Nowhere strat
7:28 As a Pokemon nerd, I apologize in place of colleague's behavior.
9:00 you can probably use the Critical Super Giant spirit to get the size change in the pot. Might be a bit more manageable than just. Hocus pocus
Did you just merge the Random Smash Wiki Trivia with the main series? I like that, as I'm an editor of the wiki as well!
15:01 I’m eating water 🥛
I believe the Lucas tech has been a thing for some time now. I remember seeing it in an Esam video a few years back.
Great video, Also, I would like to call the Lucas parry tech, The L Hop (not very creative I know) but hopefully I win cause I want that free breadstick >:)
I just finished my pon-de-rings :)) highly recommend anyone who comes to Japan to try it
The Lucas up smash tech is called the Lucas Ooo a piece of candy tech. Because it looks like he found a piece of candy on the ground before he cancels the up smash.
Having a Burger and some Fries right now. I love watching a good video while eating some good food.
I have been preachinng that Lucas is and anti steve, and it comes to life
Something that tends to work for Pokemon names is if you're reading the name that's used in English versions of the game, just pronounce it the way an American would be likely to read it. It's usually right because they're usually just English words smashed together. Even the weird-looking ones usually are. Examples: Smear + beagle = Smeargle. Sable + eye = Sableye.
I'd like to propose the name "Threading the Needle" for this Lucas tech because yes
That Lucas tech was mentioned on a Reddit post 4 years ago. For something so cool I'm surprised I haven't heard of it until now 😲
Lucas Tech:
The
Hyper
Epic
Hilariously
Useful
Bait
Did you know that to see Kirby’s free fall animation, in warioware once the stage transformation is ending you use Kirby’s up b, right when the stages land turns into the a pit, so Kirby uses up b, but then gets paused by the stage transformation and goes into free fall!
14:07 this combined knockback this is not explosion specific. Ice climbers have it happen often when connecting both hits of fair. it sends at a similarily nasty angle because it's both the spike and the non spike.
iirc it can be seen in some ultimate prerelease footage
15:00 I just ate a cookie brownie from dominoes and I’m about to eat a day old Chick-fil-A cool wrap
Lucas parrying an attack while becoming intangible and then attacking his opponent from a different direction?
PK Wavedancing.
Steve doesn’t need to get banned now because of these videos
1:08 How to punish- learn a combo or bomb them, either works
If you use Lucas up-b grounded, he has a stern expression. In the air, though, he has a shocked expression, maybe because he’s like: “Wait, I gotta hit myself? Oh crap” or somethin
In Stamina mode, Sephiroth's wing is triggered when his stamina reaches 7/20 or less.
Anyone ever eat a tuna salad sandwich with chocolate chips and mini marshmallows?
Like from Captain Underpants 3?
Yes dont recommend
Lucas tech should be called love tap
Since the Lucas attack comes from his mind. We call the tech immaculate head
Epic Awesome Really Tricky Hard But Overall Uhh… Nice Downair
or EARTHBOUND
Call the Lucas up Smash Tech "The Reason Aolia Understimated My Aftereffects" or "Trauma" for short.
Lucas mains after watching the Lucas tech:
I N T E R E S T I N G
In other words, Lucas becomes sundowner
He embraced his inner child
If I had a nickel for every game I play having a 2-frame reaction to nullify any damage, I’d have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird it happened twice.
Lucas up smash tech should be called "Up-vincibility Cancel"
Meat with noodles and pizza.
It’s Lucas’s signature move: Armor Magic On Normal Ground Up Smash
For the Lucas tech I think we can call it up smash kara cancelling. It it an advanced tech that can be used in more traditionnal fgc. Basically a kara cancel is when you can cancel the startup of a move by another.
Normaly it is implemnted by the devs to allow a player to correct the inputs if you are not frame perfect. For example if for a move you have to press 2 buttons at the same time, there is a chance that the player will not press both of them exacly at the same frame, so what will happen is the game will cancel the startup of the move by the one you wanted.
But player quickly found out that some move can have interesting properties on the startup (fowrard momentum, invincibility etc).
Example is chun li in street fighter 3 3rd strike where she can cancel the start up of one of her kick whick have a lot of forward momentum into her grab, so she will basically have a huge range grab (and we call it kara throw)
What Lucas is doing is exaclty the same thing. Using an intersting property of a move to enhanced another one.
There is an incredible video explaining kara cancelling in fighting games:
th-cam.com/video/uj1B-a12sPU/w-d-xo.html
Not sure about this one since Kara Cancelling is actually implemented in the game, seperate from interruptibility. Ryu, Ken, and Terry all have it on many of their moves, and Terry in particular pretty much always cancels Jab2 into a special of their choice.
YOOO, Gonna use that ASSHAT strat on Steve every day of the week
im eating some kind of flavored corn cracker
As a lucas main, this is the tip of the iceberg 😼
As an example, Lucas can just kill ZSS (his worst matchup) at 0 if he up b drills into the floor correctly as theres a certain hitbox that just sends zss straight into the blastzone. how fun!
Buttered Toast
the steve anvil tech spell ASSHAT when abbreviated
4:56 What happened to Ridley…😂😂😂 also we can call that the Get Yeeted At The Town😂
The anti-Steve tech should be called the Wile E Coyote (or just Wily), because it involves a falling anvil.
I LOVE YOUR ACRONYM FOR THE STEVE TECHNIQUE 🥴
Lucas is a good kid who is not to be underestimated.
I was eating Triscuits, Cheese, and Salami. I put each of them into little sandwiches. I feel like a kid on the lunch playground, watching cool facts about a video game I like.
What kind of cheese?