This is how I anneal my brass
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- I anneal my brass after every firing... Consistency is key.
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Thanx Erik
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1.068 is the world record at 1000.
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Following all your advice from almost a year ago, my groups have tightened up so much, that my other buddies are wanting me to reload their ammo..... I tell them to watch your videos, and not second guess it. I've had more than a few one hole 5 shot groups at 125 yards, since following you. 200 is the furthest we can shoot at the current range. Looking forward to moving further out and learning more. We are recreational shooters, but I still thank you for all you do
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I love this guy! Educated and not afraid to speak his mind even if the masses are clueless. Very informative! I'm just about getting into reloading so it's amazing to learn these things from him.
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Finally, someone explained it in a way that I can understand.it.
I have been reloading for 50 years, and have learned more in the past month than the frist 50 years.
I don't have an annealing machine yet, I use a drill and socket so this video takes a LOT of my worry out of annealing. Thanks again, EC.
That's exactly what i do! Us poor folk 😂
Same here
I do the water on turn table. Saw it on a video and made it with a barbaque motor. Basicly the same as the socket. Just keeps the case head cool.
Check out Elfster’s Rifles and Reloading channel on TH-cam, he has recently reviewed an Annealing machine he designed that won’t break the bank . It should be affordable for many reloaders .
Drill and torch works for me as I don’t load 100’s at a time. Drill and torch I have in my shop, no need to blow more cash.
I started annealing for my 7 mag. I watched closely with new cases while fire forming. I then annealed the brass just like this. Did a fl resize at .002 and used a bushing die and had neck tension at .002. What happened next was lower es and sd. My groups were consistent. This stuff works and I really see the results at 700+ yards
I have noticed, including in this video, that when the flame changes color, pull it from the heat. The flame bouncing off the brass will change to a orange flame.
I have verified this with 750⁰ F templac.
Thanks!
I went back and saw what you mean about the color change.......will apply that to my Giraud annealer and see if it helps. I have two diff templacs I should be using but I'm an old fart and get impatient and/or forgetful.
I was taught the same, as soon as flame starts turning orange it's done.
Very simple and consistent
Yep, did it way back in the 60s when I was into shooting paper a lot. Consistency in every little part is the answer.
This video is exactly what I needed for annealing; I've always been so worried that if I go like 1 second too long then my brass is ruined because "they" say the window for annealing vs overdoing brass is so small. Thank you! You're videos are excellent!
Annealing brass is a step that is super easy to do (and do adequately) and hard to perfect. I think way too many people put way too much thought into it. The purpose is to extend brass life and eliminate work hardening.
Sure, the goal is for consistent neck tension thus higher accuracy, but time under heat per brass lot is more important than getting to an exact temperature within .5*. Without measuring the temperature perfectly in every case, all we're doing is eyeballing anyway.
First time I met Mr. Cortina, he was installing a Barndominium at Demo HQ. I then watched his high-quality camera work of the same build site (:D) and watched some of his videos of past builds his company has done. While watching some reloading channels this week, this one pops up as a suggested video. Lo and behold, I had no idea Erik was such an accomplished marksman. Glad to have found my way to the right channel Erik.
1:30 ... Yes Erik.... Yes it does... and there is in fact, a very significant change in neck tension...😎
I made an induction annealer. It anneals 308 in 2-4 seconds depending on manufacturer (winchester is the lowest time at 2.4 seconds). At 2.6 seconds, my annealer makes the 308 case a puddle. Nice to see the flame method isn't so quick to destroy. \
WOW So much has changed, but I get the same results. I'm very old school . Started annealing back in the early 70's. You have some very nice equipment. I stand my brass in a tray, full of water to about half way up the brass. I use a needle tip just like you. I point the flame vertically down the middle of the neck, heat till red orange, then tip it over in the water. It works really well for me, and I haven't spent a lot of money. When is started with 7TCU, I lost about 85% of my brass. After annealing, I only lost 4 or 5%. WELL DONE.
Weather someone thinks your doing it right or wrong that really don't matter, the point of this is to show how you do it and to share your knowledge on your video's. And if it works for you then thats all that matters. I learn alot from your video's thank you
Question i got a browning 28 nosler xbolt lr hunter. im reloading my own hunting ammo ELD-X 175gr. I prep my brass accordingly and im loading minimum powder load 77gr of h1000 and .007 of the lands 3127 fps using nosler brass and got my groups where i want. the bullets all touching each other on target, but i got a problem when i shoot my bolt sticks. Can you tell me what im doing wrong plz
@@josephhcondo7281 I'm not Eric. I would suggest checking how your stock is mating with your barrel. Sounds like maybe your barrel isn't free-floated. When you put the rifle on the sticks, you're getting uneven pressure on the stock causing it to make contact with the barrel. Put a dollar bill between your barrel and stock. Place it on your sticks and see if you can move the dollar freely.
It's either the stock making contact, or the shooter being inconsistent. Not the same cheek weld, leaning too far in or too far back. Too much to one side.... etc.
This is an excellent video. I love how you simplify reloading and dispel some of the commonly held myths. So many others try to make it into “rocket science”. So much for the sales of Tempilaq
I learned about annealing a couple years ago, I don't shoot thousands so I use the salt bath method. I can see an extension in the life of my brass since i started to anneal. I too wondered about over doing the process. This helps a bunch. Thanks again for helping all of us out here.
Can you show the difference between quenching and air cooling?
Also show over annealing - when the brass becomes butter soft
Thank you for taking the time to do this video Erik !
😂Your mind went straight into the Gutter 😂 "If it get harder every time you work it" 🤣🤣
Thanks for a great video Erik. Can't wait to see the difference.
Loved it, I appreciate you taking the time.
top video 👍. i am looking forward to the comparison flame annealer to AMP induction annealer 🍀🍀
Thank you Erik, you answered my questions on the subject of annealing.
What a kick ass setup! Really cool video man!
Gracias amigo! I built a DIY annealer and now I feel 100% confident I'm doing it right and getting consistent results.
You are hilarious you held your composure much better than I would have talking about annealing good for you brother
Love your workshop bro!
On fire!!!! Finally dropping some vids!!!!
Gets hard every time you work it!!! Dude you awesome, love it!
Thanks EC, that's what I was looking for because I don't have an automatic table either.
This is the clearest, best demonstration / explanation I have ever seen on the topic of annealing
THANK YOU
Erik's solid plus. Hope you've been availing yourself of all his videos. I do, repeatedly and long term. And he can even build a Barndominium for you!!!
Hi Erik
Just to let you know I just finished listening to you on the Australian hunting podcast , thank you for giving us your time and experience. Steve from Australia.
Nice “Show and tell”, Eric! Thanks.
Thankyou Eric. The best video I've seen yet. A picture is worth a thousand words.
Thank you! For the video and the outtakes!
This helped me out very much! I justloaded some brass that I was told in other videos that said that I over did it, but yet I had good neck tension.
Thanks Erik for your awesome video.
You are a excellent teacher. You explain it very well that even a beginner can understand why and how.
Awesome info, keep them videos coming 👍
I grabbed a Annealeez this spring and have been terrified to anneal my Lapua brass... of all the videos I have watch and all the shooters I talked to... this demo gives me comfort..... I was definitely was over thinking this👍👍
Thanks Boss, really excellent information showing annealing of brass.
Good stuff Erik thank you Steve from Australia.
Well done sir! Enjoying your content 👍
I just found your channel. Thank you for all these informative videos. That seating set up that shows pressure is really trick.
Great discussion on annealing! For those of us that are not into PRS and load mostly for hunting; we still benefit from this good information. For us annealing is mostly done to extend brass life. The old rule was to anneal every 3 or 4th firing. However we quickly discovered that doing it more frequently often improved accuracy. Thanks for the info on over annealing as this always seems to be of concern.
Thank you for sharing!
You did a great job explaining the why and what in this video. 👍
Great video. Thanks for sharing
Great video again Erik. You've also eased a concern of mine. I made my own induction annealer (fun project) and have been very wary of how long to heat the brass for (edging more on the side of under rather than over) - looks like I really shouldn't worry as much.
The best explanation I’ve listened to thanks for sharing your thoughts on Annealing 🇦🇺🇦🇺 good to see you you smile and laugh 😂 as did i
Thank you for the lesson on re-setting brass....;)
Thanks for posting!
Thank you for sharing!!!!! Need to start annealing my rifle brass.
Excelent video. 1 thought. There is a theory that over annealing will burn some of the ingredients in the brass making it weaker & dangerous. I think this video may have dispelled that theory. Great experiment Erik. Rock on Bro.
Remember this is a sample size of one. That theory may be true(er) with some brands and not so much with others.
My annealing machine works also with a torch flame. I've never seen this kind of issues. Maybe it can happen if you heat the brass too long ?
@@rdsii64 The theory is when its red hot its burning zinc out of the brass, That theory is false as the only way to burn out the zinc is to basically turn the brass case into liquid form!
Thanks for the demonstration. Very effective presentation!! You gave me the info I needed.
Really useful video. Thank you Erik
Great vid. Just started messing with annealing. Thanks much for all vids. Do what I can to catch them.
Very nice job explaining the process. Now i have to try it for myself and compare results , Thanks again .
thanks for the information. I ended up getting an EP 2.0 annealer and i REALLY like it! ready to anneal out of the box & easy to switch from cartridge to cartridge without swapping out any parts and switches over in seconds.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and making easy to understand!
He is the best ! I learned so much from Eric
Alright, I’m here. Thank you again SO MUCH! I appreciate this so much
Thank you Erik for taking the time to share your knowledge and experience,. I learn a lot each time I watch one of your videos.
They are always very well presented and insightful. Keep up the very good work!
I can't wait to see what you learn about the AMP annealer. In the past I tried some flame annealing. About a year ago, I invested in an AMP annealer, and used it all summer. I was very happy with the results. I want to see what your tests show. It will be very interesting. Keep up the good work.
I love my AMP annealer
Eric excellent video, the Uk loves your videos to
Great demonstration, Erik. I think you can add immeasurably to this by showing seating force improvements thru annealing as compared to un annealed brass with up to 10 cycles on it. That would prove conclusively that annealing brass has value, and how often it should be done to maintain good consistent neck tension.
Thanks. You answer the main question i was looking for. Thanks . So i am doing it right. Awesome video.
I have learned a lot from watching your videos. And now add another to the list...the more you work it, the harder it gets. Hahaha. Great video and keep up the great information!
Thank you for this video.
Nice video
Great info
That got me cracking up at 1:38😂😂👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼good video! Thank you!
Thanks for clearing that up for me. I’ve always worried about over heating and weakening case head, Webb, and body. Now I know that I should add another second to my timer.
Me: watching all your videos, learning how to load the most accurate freedom seeds possible.
Also Me: Dumping 25 grains of Varget into .556 range brass, topped with the cheapest bullets I can find...
Eh, 556/223 for me is all range or hubting rounds. Dont load much for accuracy for that round. Now, 270 on the other hand....
great video!
Thanks for the help.
Thank you for the video
Awesome!!! Thanks
.. Erik Thank you so much for your Loading Videos . I now know what im doing , Save so much time loading after watching your videos and enjoy shooting my rifle because i now understand the direction to make it shoot small .. Going to a 1000 meter range soon .
Different bottles... ❤️❤️❤️
There’s also a reason why one side of the “V” is longer when you see geese flying!
Thanks for your info and explanations and of course for sharing :) Good stuff :)
Thank You Erik, this is how I do my brass ow, and it seems to work great!
Great information thanks
Eric, Induction annealing! Annealing made perfect. AMP works great. You cant do it wrong.
Hopefully your proven wrong in the test. 2 grand is a new rifle.
Great video! I annealed some brass after watching this with my home made set up that's pretty crude. Used a stationary propane bottle and a variable speed drill with a 5" 3/8" drill bit. Slid the 45/70 cases over the drill bit and rotated the brass into the flame until a light orange color. About 9 seconds and allowed them to air cool. By the way the caseslid right off by tilting down a little and letting them fall into a wooden box. I was afraid to do this in faer of over heating until watching your video. I am anxious to get to the range and watch your next video!
Thanks,
Frank
Thanks. Buddy I have never annealed but since brass is getting hard to find going to start
Love the humor!!! To funny.
Well done!!!!!! Enough said. 😃👍
Thanks, good info!
Erik, thanks so much for the video of how you do annealing. It all makes sense to me. I'll be looking forward to what you learn by using the Amp Annealer. I'm developing my own DIY induction annealer. I was concerned about over annealing. You've adequately demonstrated temperatures slightly over 750 deg F wont ruin the cartridge. Makes me feel more confident mine will work adequately. BTW, I'm using 750 def F Tempilaq to determine when the brass has reached that temp.
Good video. Glad to see you pull that Machinists Handbook out. That has all the info about metals that you will ever need. And nice to see you air cooling instead of water qwenching.
I thought water quench was a necessary part of the annealing process for brass and helped to achieve the necessary hardness. Can anyone clarify?
@@Denvertubester the brass cools so quickly there is no chance of residual heat causing any problems.
We did a similar experiment. We were die forming .30-06 military brass into 7mm Mauser. We trimmed the fired 06' cases on a lathe, de-burred them, annealed, formed, full length sizd, trimmed and tumbled them.. We found that around 14 seconds gave us a good form with no negative effects. We did 200 for a customer and have reloaded each case 4 times since without issue (annealed each at 4 seconds each time since).
Thank you sir.
Thanks great information. I am still using the drill and socket . I have always wondered about the temperature for the brass.
Making the what I thought was so complex look so simple! NICE
Metallurgy guys biting their tongues lol. Congrats again 2023 champ!
I have the same annealer, I use a 20lb bottle, and a hose splitter with two hoses connected to the same bottle. And then use zip ties to tie the two hoses together for my location. That way I don’t have to worry about two separate bottles, and how full each bottle is and if one will run out before the other.
This is the first video I have watched on annealing. 1min 50 seconds in I'm LMAO. Hilarious! (It gets harder every time you work it) LMAO