For those asking, I've checked with Lian Li and the wireless controller will NOT work with the older TL fans. So no you can't do that. Specs of the build (note these include affiliate links which might earn me a commission at no extra cost to you.) Case - Lian Li O11 Vision Compact - th-cam.com/video/SCxZJtZj8k4/w-d-xo.html Motherboard - Gigabyte Z790 AORUS ELITE AX ICE amzn.to/47oalxf CPU - Intel Core i9-13900K (amzn.to/3QH6uUv) RAM - Crucial DDR5 6000MHz Pro series RAM amzn.to/3UnPS6t NVMe SSD - WD_BLACK SN850X NVMe amzn.to/3Y5DJFB SSDs - Crucial MX500 2TB and Crucial BX500 2TB th-cam.com/video/IOJNybKZ4wk/w-d-xo.html PSU - Corsair RMShift 1000X white (go.corsair.com/1rv9Ra) Corsair PSU Cable kit - go.corsair.com/1rbAq6 GPU - ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX™ 4090 White OC amzn.to/4h33hu1 AIO - Lian Li Hydroshift LCD 360R AIO th-cam.com/video/EhAJlQQMPfE/w-d-xo.html Fans - Lian Li SL Wireless fans th-cam.com/video/0cQ-BFJwz7w/w-d-xo.html Strimers - Lian Li Wireless Stimers th-cam.com/video/nLxwK7jbtFI/w-d-xo.html
I appreciate the thoroughness of your videos. I recently did a build and debated heavily between the Corsair iCUE link fans and these Lian LANs because I wanted to get rid of the hundreds of cables LoL I wound up going with the Corsair fans, mainly because they had higher CFM ( I got the RX series fans, while their RGB isn’t spectacular, I wanted the airflow performance); plus my AIO and Case were Corsair - so why not stick with one brand while I could. I love the look of the Lian Li fans, particularly with that LCD, seen some really great aesthetic builds! I’m happy with the Corsair, but I still appreciate seeing the various types of builds and thorough reviews that you do
@@larrycampbell6133 and I really appreciate the comment. iCue Link is excellent. I personally prefer the aesthetic of Lian Li's fans but they're both great for different reasons
Same here. Struggling which brand to choose. I want corsair for their high CFM and but on the other hand Lian Li offers reverse blade and now this wireless fan.
@@jnthn.x it’s great to have options, but making a decision can sometimes be overwhelming LOL! I really only wound up going Corsair because I already have a ton of Corsair products, might as well have the fans too! But the really high CFM has been a game changer for my build - the RX series is fantastic, even if their RGB is like a B- on the report card, the airflow and cooling temps more than make up for that in my eyes
@Doc_Hollladay it is crazy, insaine really... I mean, the entire point of wifi is to eliminate the usb connections and use a normal psu instead of mobo power. It appears they did that, then removed pwm as well, which pissed me off and fan power and then realized, "Oh crap we need power." Let's add the usb cable back for some reason... how is it an improvement to prefer power from a usb instead of fan, when psu is literally there for the purpose... why drive more power thru the mobo when you do not have to, because your not using signal headers. Lian Li has proven themselves incapable of not regressing hardware and software, this is but one example of cyclical break fix approach... release at all costs basically, not actually taking care of the customer. They have proven themselves to be untrustworthy in software development. Another example, they just update l connect for these new fans, they broken older ones. Lian li fans are knightmares due to software incompetence and over release of every possible permutation of hardware instead of 1 good long lasting product... they want us to buy every little half finished experiment they complete every 6 months, instead of anticipating what we want and providing it. There is no evolution at lian li, only lateral moves, break fix, and abandonment when the costs of maintenance get to high for their marketing lead engineering processes and results. It's very sad to watch, a company that made such great cases. I'll be returning 15 tl lcd screens today... wasted 2 weeks screwing with them.
The LianLi ecosystem inside the case is really flourishing. My current build is ROG GPU and Mobo, everything else LL. Can't wait for LL to get into RAM and other components, best lighting solutions out there. Thanks for the video!
this video saved me some money and a headache, thanks for showing how they work and get plugged in. I think i'll stick with my infinity mirror TL 120's until they work out how to not have multiple motherboard plug ins
I’m so glad I watched your video. I ordered a bunch of these fans plus the strimers when Lian Li announced them yesterday. After watching your videos, these aren’t going to work for me. I only have two chassis fan headers on my motherboard and that won’t be enough for three groups of these fans. I’ll just order some SL Infinity 120 fans instead, and save myself a bunch of cash in the process. Thanks!
@@TheProvokedPrawn I did see that. However, I thought that portion only addressed the need for additional USB headers. I thought that I would still need a fan header as well. I could be mistaken. I’ll watch it again. Edit: Ah, I see now! Well that would work perfectly. Problem solved. Guess I’ll keep my order in. Thanks again for being so thorough.
I've invested in Lian Li ecosystem recently but I regret it and I'm getting rid of it. Apart from O11 Dynamic Evo RGB case, everything else is just awful. Software to control it is probably one of the worst I ever encountered. Hydroshift AIO is probably has one of the loudest AIO pumps even on lowest RPM and the temperatures are worse than some of the slimmer AIO's I had and that's with high quality thermal paste and good mounting. My idle on 13700k was around 37 C, I had 29 C on Deepcool LT 720. Same fan speed set for both. The LCD screen does not work half of the time no matter the updates they roll out to L connect. I had to replace LT LCD fans several times as they arrived dead in the box and those that were not broken, the fluid dynamic bearing on those fans are actually audible even on the low RPM. Design wise, great and great ideas but their quality control is non existent.
I still can see same amount of wires from the previous UNI FAN SL-INF. and fan borders looking cheap plastic .. I honestly dont like these new ones .. THANK YOU FOR THE VIDEO Provoked Prawn! :D
Preparing for an early 2025 build (Ryzen 9000 X3D + Nvidia Geforce 5080 or 5090 build). These are the fans I'm looking to install so this video was very helpful, thanks! One point: you talk about Lian Li L connect 3 software but I was wondering if this would also work with SignalRGB, which is the software I use now. The advantage of SignalRGB is that I can sync my entire setup (keyboard, mouse, fans, motherboard, even external components such as LED strips on my desk) in one smooth way. I would love to see you do a video on SignalRGB and how it works with these fans.
Hugely informative video. Preparing for an early 2025 build, this is helpful. I spend 50x more time planning and contemplating the right parts than I do building. It's likely going to be an AMD 9000 X3D build with a Nvidia 5080 or 5090. So, these component build breakdowns are great for preparation. Alas, I await CES January 2025 for all the things
@Mister_JJS be careful, I'll never buy a lian li fan again after the TL LCD continuous stream of debacle. Strongly advise staying away from any lian li LCD and seeking guarantees that, if for example your wifi router were to go out, or if you boot to cli instead of windows, or anything like that... that your computer will not overheat since the fan control software is now so entirely dependant on ultra high level protocols like usb and wifi (instead of pwm firmware, low level).
@Mister_JJS keep in mind, each lian li fan can consume up to 3% of your CPU on a 9950x. AND LCD fan is gauranteed to... a wifi lcd fan, I'm just going to assume 30% OF MY CPU will be used since they don't tell me.
As always, nice clear guide! I have a few questions though. Hoping you can answer before I buy these fans for my upcoming build. 1. Does the LConnect software control the fan speed too? You said we can plug the fans directly to the PSU via Sata, so that means the motherboard has no control over them. 2. Will this work with SignalRGB or other software for syncing? I don't want my Rams to get left out. 3. Lastly, if I buy 3 sets of 3-packs, I will get 3 controllers but I only need one right?
I have really appreciated your videos on all these different setups, thanks. I think I'm going to go with SL wireless 140s in a Lian Li 011DE XL. 3 then 6 on top for 420 CPU rad(just going to rely on the fans that come with the rad for a little while.) Then 3 on the side, 3 on the bottom and 2 at the back. I've watched so many videos I've lost my clarity on recommendation for which should intake and which should exhaust so i can pick the normal or reverse blade. Thanks if you have the time.
This is my preference - th-cam.com/video/sVEXd-Wp8FY/w-d-xo.html Intake on the bottom and side, exhaust top and rear. I find side mounted intake rad with push pull is best for cooling the CPU and case.
Call me crazy but, wireless means no cables. I think i missed the point of this new product. When i saw the USB dongle i was hoping we are going to control the fans with that only, thinking fans were bluetooth (or something like that) connected to the dongle while using batteries as power. PS: i love your unboxing knife
@@Rave.- No more pointless than WiFi is wireless, by communicating with your router without connecting a network cable to your PC (and most people don't consider WiFi to be wireless). At the end of the day, one of the points of this controller is to start unifying multiple devices to a single controller (e.g. both SL V3 fans and V3 Strimer cables), instead of having a separate controller for each device.
It is 95% bad and older models are better. Biggest issues: Lian li fans are dependant on windows/lconnect/usb, now wifi... 4 added points of failure and integration complexity not oresent in non proprietary standards. Each lcd will consume 3% cpu on a 9950x in my experience... 15 fans, 50% on my cpu was used... I have to assume wifi would be more. Why design a wifi dongle for this, when my mobo already has wifi? Why use wifi, for 2 foot comes, that's what blue tooth is for? How will having 15 wifi transmitters 6 inches from my audio circuits affect the mobo? Why are they getting power from a usb port still.... why was does it jeep changing with every product... a fundamental principle of wifi design, if your already running a big power cable to the data source, you don't need wifi, just run a tiny single cable too, wifi becomes added costs and points of failure. Why did they break the TL LCDs when they release to support wifi, how much regression and missing QAQC can we expected with the added point of failure, wifi... why the hell do I need a dongle, and why not create a real daisy chained power bus from the psu directly... wifi and power designs should be good, or they should use or extend a standard, not random walk over every possibility guaranteeing incompatibility across everything. Had to return my TL LCDs, had hopes for the wifi line, not impressed... TL without lcds, functionally should be more adequate.
Concept: A+, Execution: D The amount of cable mess you have to contend with seems to be the same if not made worse by lack of hub. This time though you get the added benefit of a gigantic suppository sized dongle sticking out from the back of your computer like an engorged mutant tick lol. Again, the concept is neat, but really....it ends up looking to be more of a headache if you're mixing and matching LCD and non LCD fans....
The controller is the same for both fans, so you only need one. You can wire it internally (I showed that), so that's ok. It's actually less crazy cable wise, than previous ones. unless you tried to mix in other fans of course.
The controller can be installed internally with the included adapter cable, so it's still hidden away. The single wire from the non-LCD fans to "somewhere else", which previously was a thicker cable with a 7-pin proprietary plug, is now a standard PWM connector with a thinner overall wire. And you can either connect these PWM cables to your motherboard headers, or to a single SATA connector that has three PWM ports, included with the controller. For LCD fans, yes, at first glance, it seems there are more wires involved, because you have a separate power and USB data cable for each group of fans... it's a tradeoff, to add the ability to be able to mix and match LCD with non-LCD fans, which has been a feature request since the TL LCD fans were first released.
I’ve also invested a lot in Lian Li fans and AIO. I have two pretty much new AIOs the Galahad LCD II taken out of the system because their horrible software had terrible memory leaks with it. The LConnect software is so bad it causes major stuttering in games. I also had to have the pump header replaced by LL bc it started flickering like a strobe light. Have spent so much money on their fans - which I now connect directly to a non Lian li hub which plugs into Mobo and controlled by Signal RGB. My PC had 10 AL120v2 as well The biggest problem is that they don’t care or don’t do anything about it. They sell the expensive products that are slick with barely any support. I would steer well clear of them
How many fans can you control with one of those things though ? I mean, i will need to control 11. 3 bottom, 3 front, 3 top, 2 back. Maybe even one more. Frankly, having them powered by a SATA plug and daisy chain them just for power but control them wirelessly would be awesome. No cables visible anywhere. Though that might not be a problem if you go "back connect", you will still need to route FAR LESS cables. Using several USB headers might be a problem, though there are a bunch of splitters for those to find, use one header, attach more to those, but, will that work. If you need to draw too much data for one, which i don't expect to be the case, might ruin your plans, or if it doesn't recognise them all. We really need more info on this. Guessing these will be pricey.
You can control upto 8 channels (I.e. groups of devices) with as many as four fans per group. They said it will be 10 channels in future. So the number isn't a problem. Usb can be fixed with a hub, as I showed and used.
@@TheProvokedPrawn Yeah, wasn't really concerned for the hub, the works with most things, if it doesn't it's usually because of the hardware and or software and how that was designed, not because of what the header can handle data wise. And later in the video i did indeed see it could handle quite a bit, so that is indeed very cool. Now the Lian Li fan SKU number is getting quite high, i wonder when they will have the wireless infinity mirror variant.
The amount of fan headers that are unused on my motherboard, i can see standard fans working out but once you start adding groups of rgb lcd fans then this honestly just starts falling apart especially when motherboards have like 2 usb headers at a time and even more so if the standard fans aren't getting enough power. An extra investment will have to be to buy extra usb headers to compensate for those lcd fans.
I am feeling a hard pass for these fans, I initially considered this as an option to clean my cables and neaten things up because I have in total 10 Lian Li LCD fans with 2 its controllers + the corsair hub controller and because of this I have frequent issues where the LCD's fan RPM stat is bugged out and sticks to 0RPM(fans still spin though). I am assuming this is because too many USBs and the PC is getting somehow "confused". But it looks like this wireless fans have the same number of cables connected to the original LCD fans so I don't see much difference in terms of using less cables and being tidy.
I always like to see new things, it is a good option but not sold on these. Still more interested in Zero cable format. Trying to talk to Asus to add the 600 power port of the btf Mobos to all motherboards and not only the BTF ones.
for fans i found icue link to probably be the cleanest and most cable clutter less solution right now in the market. lian li always LOVES complicating their products
If using a set of SL wireless LCD 120mm fans with, say, two sets of SL140v2 fans(since you want them to look the same, and Lian Li hasnt released a 140mm version yet), how would that wire up to the motherboard? I'm assuming SL wireless hub and possibly the standard SL hub for the non-wireless fans, but does that cause any issue in L-Connect, or with management? Would it be better to plug the non-wireless fans directly into the mobo or a hub?
If i get 10 wireless lian li fans and a 24pin wireless strimmer and Lian Li Strimer Wireless 12+4 pin PW16-121W. Would one controller support all of that or would i need two?
Anyone else see the wire in the “Wireless fans” title?😂 great advertisement for non wireless but somehow wireless fans. Cool looking fans though. Do they perform better than the SL’s? 120/140 infinity mirror ones??
A lot of talking about wires for something with wireless in the name. I think that the standard non LCD fans are an upgrade, but adding the LCD doesn’t seem worth the hassle, I’d rather just buy a standalone display for the inside of my pc
Darn, besides the wireless aspect, is there really a difference? I got 15 in my NV9. 8 are TL lcd 6 are the regular TL. Seeing the USB port being needed, maybe I don't need these.
you don't "need" the Lian Li PSU. you can use others. If you're worried about USB ports, use something like this th-cam.com/video/d8vELbWWaCQ/w-d-xo.html
@TheProvokedPrawn Thankyou I did order the lian li edge in the end I just like the organisation of it. I've just bought the Aorus elite x870 wifi ice. I have a question do I use pcie B C or D as my second pcie slot. A is occupied with my OS pcie.
I have a question, so I have a asus x670e crosshair extreme, and I want to buy 10 lian li lcd wiressless fans will that be any trouble in the sense of it being able to work?
I was looking to buy a single lcd fan for a rear fan but the wired lcd fan requires a controller to use, so I ended up returning it. For these wireless fans, if I buy a single pack lcd will I have everything I need in the box to use in my pc, granted I have an open cha fan and usb slot?
Do you know if you can run wireless and wired fans and sync together? I am considering getting these fans in the 140mm varient but they dont seem to do them in 140mm reverse flow lcd which i am after
No USB-C and no 140mm fan seems like a few points off for effort. Thank you for the video! This will make it into my new 2025 build but Lian Li if you are reading this make a 420mm LCD AIO!
@@Vextroboomin considering new boards are coming with a lot more USB-C ports it would just make sense to start moving to the new standards in 2025. I would just plug it into the header anyway.
@@unitymind still, you have to consider older motherboards that might not have as many usbc, their simply aren’t enough usbc ports to justify wasting one on rgb when theirs plenty of other devices that can take advantage, if you really wanted just get an usb a to c adapter lel
Lain Li, the wireless fans that arnt wireless and in fact more of a mess than previously where you really do only have 1 cable to plug into 1 controller, including the LCD fans, these just control the RGB wirelessly, the rest is a mess.
Yes....10 fans to one controller and one sata cable for tl lcd along with regular ones. You still need Sata cable especially if you are going to use white lighting. All this products does is save one controller from the strimmers.
Don't like the Lian Li quality. Got the non wireless LCD fans some time ago and the damn connection wire kept popping out as the cables were in a small corner. Tried to push in harder in and then the litte hook broke. Lian Li doesn't even sell those cables seperatly. Thermaltake Swafans are far better in every way with there magnetic connectors. Sure you don't have the LCD, but for the price Lian Li costs you don't get the build quality.
i don't see the point in even calling this wireless if it uses more wires than their competitor's wired option lol Lian-Li's uni fans have always been a mixed bag when it came to "simplifying" things. i think their fans are better than Corsair for the most part, but their execution is just piss poor when it comes to avoiding cable clutter. also their LCD fans are pretty pointless tbh, why would to need to put an LCD on a cooling fan? this honestly has no practical use whatsoever and its just for bragging rights at this point. Corsair really nailed it with their icue link system, their pricing is just a bit steep and their fan portfolio is just kinda weird, you would expect the QX fans to be the best performing ones being the top of their lineup, but it is the RX fans which are at the bottom of their lineup that are actually their best fans in terms of performance lol
Ive just bought all the icue link system and i can safely say unless your spending big bucks and using the QX version fans (£125 for x3 but worse than rx120s) the rest of the icue link fans are kinda crappy RGB (eg. rx120) for the money, the lian li sl-inf are soo much better for value and also look better and perform as good...just a shame theres a few more wires... Im kind of tempted to send all this icue link stuff back and go with lian li sl-infinity 120 instead as these rx120s Purley for looks 😅
@@BlazedReefer when i reconfigured my case with new fans (i was using Noctua's A14-IndustrialPPC fans) i initially wanted to go with Lian-Li's Uni Infinity mirror sl140's because i thought they looked cool and their performance was also pretty good, but then after some research my biggest issue with the Lian-Li stuff is that if you're going with 120mm then you're pretty much set because they provide anything you need in the box (the controller and wires etc.), but if you're going with the 140mm version you are SOL and have to buy additional equipment separately (the multiple controllers and wires etc.) since they only sell the 140mm versions individually and not in special packs. another issue i had with Lian-Li's Uni equipment is that its a big bunch of wires for what they claim to be "seamless single cable" approach, i think Corsair really nailed it with their ICUE LINK ecosystem tbh. as for the fans performance, yes the Lian-Li fans do perform quite a bit better than the corsair QX's, in both RGB modes and visual aesthetics in general, but when it comes to performance, in the end the biggest difference you would see between fans is at most a 3c degree difference, which for all of the additional cable clutter that Lian-Li's approach brings i'd just stick with ICUE LINK if i already have it. in the end these are just fans, and if you have a good case with ample airflow then it doesn't really make you HAVE to get the best performing fans. in my case, right now i've been using only QX140 fans instead of the older Noctua fans i had (i have 3 140mm's in the front for intake, 3 140mm's in the top for my AIO rad set as exhaust and a single 140mm in the back for exhaust) and from my own personal experience after running this configuration with QX140's in the past 4 months i honestly only see a marginal 2-3 degrees c difference (as in the QX fans make my PC run a little bit hotter). but this can accumulate to multiple reasons, such as it was actually a little bit chillier before i switched to the QX140 fans, now its a little bit warmer etc. either way, for a 2-3 degrees difference? it honestly really does not matter what types of fans you use lol so in that regard, at least with my case (C700M) and in my opinion for aesthetics the QX140 are much cleaner looking than the UNI INF SL140's, and of course ICUE LINK is a far superior system to Lian-Li's UNI system. in the end tbh (and as long as you have a GOOD performing case), it all really comes down to which fans you think look better, and which sacrifices you are willing to make to use them (PRICE vs Cable and controller Clutter etc.)
@@HoLDoN4Sec for the price id still say lian li wins, lian li are cheaper the the RX and twice as cheap as the QX so that alone is a huge factor, it's a no brainer if buying a new pc build go with lian over Corsair and get visually better and performance matched for half the price... worth having an extra 2/3 wires (that you dont see) for half the price and better quality,, and the sl inf 120/140 v1s look sooooo much better than the rx or QX infact they look better than ANY Corsair fans! ...i cant even be debating that lol it just does... They run cooler, look visually better, have more RGB, have backwards versions available, are cheaper to buy, and perform better.. win win in my opinion.. only thing corsair icue link has going for it is less wires...but at double the cost and worse performance.
@@BlazedReefer you are forgetting something, Lian Li is definitely the best option for 120mm, and they even have special starter packs for their 120mm fans to get you easy going into their UNI ecosystem. but their 140mm fans are a completely different story, since they don't have starter packs for their 140mm fans you have to get your fan controller from somewhere else which sucks. if you also want to use their striker wires you need another completely different controller for that as well. Lian Li's UNI offerings, especially for 140mm is a mess. also keep in mind that most people that opt for Corsair's QX fans don't really care about the cost (i mean, these are 50$ fans) and just favor looks over performance. as for build quality, i will have to disagree with you, Lian Li's fans are kinda cheaply made and hollow compared to any other fan i'm aware of, and the RX fans do have superior build quality to Lian Li's fan, at least that is what i noticed from my experience comparing the SLIN140 to the RX140's, the SLIN140's felt kinda cheaply made while the RX140 felt solid. neither of which by the way get even remotely to as well made as any Noctua fan i have here, in comparison both of them feel like shit in terms of build quality but i digress
I will never ever buy something from Lian Li again the TL-LCD Fan is the worst piece of crab i ever put into my System not even a year in 2 out of 7 are dead 3 are noisy and don´t get me started on L-Connect 3 this Software is a crime against humanity
For those asking, I've checked with Lian Li and the wireless controller will NOT work with the older TL fans. So no you can't do that.
Specs of the build (note these include affiliate links which might earn me a commission at no extra cost to you.)
Case - Lian Li O11 Vision Compact - th-cam.com/video/SCxZJtZj8k4/w-d-xo.html
Motherboard - Gigabyte Z790 AORUS ELITE AX ICE amzn.to/47oalxf
CPU - Intel Core i9-13900K (amzn.to/3QH6uUv)
RAM - Crucial DDR5 6000MHz Pro series RAM amzn.to/3UnPS6t
NVMe SSD - WD_BLACK SN850X NVMe amzn.to/3Y5DJFB
SSDs - Crucial MX500 2TB and Crucial BX500 2TB th-cam.com/video/IOJNybKZ4wk/w-d-xo.html
PSU - Corsair RMShift 1000X white (go.corsair.com/1rv9Ra)
Corsair PSU Cable kit - go.corsair.com/1rbAq6
GPU - ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX™ 4090 White OC amzn.to/4h33hu1
AIO - Lian Li Hydroshift LCD 360R AIO th-cam.com/video/EhAJlQQMPfE/w-d-xo.html
Fans - Lian Li SL Wireless fans th-cam.com/video/0cQ-BFJwz7w/w-d-xo.html
Strimers - Lian Li Wireless Stimers th-cam.com/video/nLxwK7jbtFI/w-d-xo.html
I appreciate the thoroughness of your videos.
I recently did a build and debated heavily between the Corsair iCUE link fans and these Lian LANs because I wanted to get rid of the hundreds of cables LoL
I wound up going with the Corsair fans, mainly because they had higher CFM ( I got the RX series fans, while their RGB isn’t spectacular, I wanted the airflow performance); plus my AIO and Case were Corsair - so why not stick with one brand while I could.
I love the look of the Lian Li fans, particularly with that LCD, seen some really great aesthetic builds! I’m happy with the Corsair, but I still appreciate seeing the various types of builds and thorough reviews that you do
@@larrycampbell6133 and I really appreciate the comment. iCue Link is excellent. I personally prefer the aesthetic of Lian Li's fans but they're both great for different reasons
Same here. Struggling which brand to choose. I want corsair for their high CFM and but on the other hand Lian Li offers reverse blade and now this wireless fan.
@@jnthn.x it’s great to have options, but making a decision can sometimes be overwhelming LOL! I really only wound up going Corsair because I already have a ton of Corsair products, might as well have the fans too! But the really high CFM has been a game changer for my build - the RX series is fantastic, even if their RGB is like a B- on the report card, the airflow and cooling temps more than make up for that in my eyes
Man Lian Li you have a lot of wires for wireless lol. Thanks for the video!!!😊
You’re welcome 😊
@Doc_Hollladay it is crazy, insaine really... I mean, the entire point of wifi is to eliminate the usb connections and use a normal psu instead of mobo power. It appears they did that, then removed pwm as well, which pissed me off and fan power and then realized, "Oh crap we need power." Let's add the usb cable back for some reason... how is it an improvement to prefer power from a usb instead of fan, when psu is literally there for the purpose... why drive more power thru the mobo when you do not have to, because your not using signal headers.
Lian Li has proven themselves incapable of not regressing hardware and software, this is but one example of cyclical break fix approach... release at all costs basically, not actually taking care of the customer.
They have proven themselves to be untrustworthy in software development. Another example, they just update l connect for these new fans, they broken older ones.
Lian li fans are knightmares due to software incompetence and over release of every possible permutation of hardware instead of 1 good long lasting product... they want us to buy every little half finished experiment they complete every 6 months, instead of anticipating what we want and providing it. There is no evolution at lian li, only lateral moves, break fix, and abandonment when the costs of maintenance get to high for their marketing lead engineering processes and results.
It's very sad to watch, a company that made such great cases.
I'll be returning 15 tl lcd screens today... wasted 2 weeks screwing with them.
well because its wireless rgb the minimum i would need is 3 cables for me
@@pcrecomedations watch out. 1 gauge on these screens consumes 3% cpu.
The LianLi ecosystem inside the case is really flourishing. My current build is ROG GPU and Mobo, everything else LL. Can't wait for LL to get into RAM and other components, best lighting solutions out there. Thanks for the video!
That'd be crazy
this video saved me some money and a headache, thanks for showing how they work and get plugged in. I think i'll stick with my infinity mirror TL 120's until they work out how to not have multiple motherboard plug ins
I’m so glad I watched your video. I ordered a bunch of these fans plus the strimers when Lian Li announced them yesterday. After watching your videos, these aren’t going to work for me. I only have two chassis fan headers on my motherboard and that won’t be enough for three groups of these fans. I’ll just order some SL Infinity 120 fans instead, and save myself a bunch of cash in the process. Thanks!
Did you miss the part about the sata power connection you can use instead? Check the timestamps
@@TheProvokedPrawn I did see that. However, I thought that portion only addressed the need for additional USB headers. I thought that I would still need a fan header as well. I could be mistaken. I’ll watch it again.
Edit: Ah, I see now! Well that would work perfectly. Problem solved. Guess I’ll keep my order in. Thanks again for being so thorough.
@@MisterDoItNice 👍
All these Lian fans and Strimers pair very well with Lian Li Edge PSU, I find all the extra USB ports on the PSU very handy.
Yes
Agree!
I've invested in Lian Li ecosystem recently but I regret it and I'm getting rid of it. Apart from O11 Dynamic Evo RGB case, everything else is just awful. Software to control it is probably one of the worst I ever encountered. Hydroshift AIO is probably has one of the loudest AIO pumps even on lowest RPM and the temperatures are worse than some of the slimmer AIO's I had and that's with high quality thermal paste and good mounting. My idle on 13700k was around 37 C, I had 29 C on Deepcool LT 720. Same fan speed set for both. The LCD screen does not work half of the time no matter the updates they roll out to L connect. I had to replace LT LCD fans several times as they arrived dead in the box and those that were not broken, the fluid dynamic bearing on those fans are actually audible even on the low RPM. Design wise, great and great ideas but their quality control is non existent.
I still can see same amount of wires from the previous UNI FAN SL-INF. and fan borders looking cheap plastic .. I honestly dont like these new ones ..
THANK YOU FOR THE VIDEO Provoked Prawn! :D
Preparing for an early 2025 build (Ryzen 9000 X3D + Nvidia Geforce 5080 or 5090 build). These are the fans I'm looking to install so this video was very helpful, thanks! One point: you talk about Lian Li L connect 3 software but I was wondering if this would also work with SignalRGB, which is the software I use now. The advantage of SignalRGB is that I can sync my entire setup (keyboard, mouse, fans, motherboard, even external components such as LED strips on my desk) in one smooth way. I would love to see you do a video on SignalRGB and how it works with these fans.
I didn't try it but should have I expect it would be a problem with the screens
Hugely informative video. Preparing for an early 2025 build, this is helpful. I spend 50x more time planning and contemplating the right parts than I do building. It's likely going to be an AMD 9000 X3D build with a Nvidia 5080 or 5090. So, these component build breakdowns are great for preparation. Alas, I await CES January 2025 for all the things
Great to hear!
@Mister_JJS be careful, I'll never buy a lian li fan again after the TL LCD continuous stream of debacle. Strongly advise staying away from any lian li LCD and seeking guarantees that, if for example your wifi router were to go out, or if you boot to cli instead of windows, or anything like that... that your computer will not overheat since the fan control software is now so entirely dependant on ultra high level protocols like usb and wifi (instead of pwm firmware, low level).
@Mister_JJS keep in mind, each lian li fan can consume up to 3% of your CPU on a 9950x. AND LCD fan is gauranteed to... a wifi lcd fan, I'm just going to assume 30% OF MY CPU will be used since they don't tell me.
@@gunslingorgunslingorsadf8150 Solid advice.
Bruh do not spend that much on a 5090 2,000 is way to damn much
As always, nice clear guide! I have a few questions though. Hoping you can answer before I buy these fans for my upcoming build.
1. Does the LConnect software control the fan speed too? You said we can plug the fans directly to the PSU via Sata, so that means the motherboard has no control over them.
2. Will this work with SignalRGB or other software for syncing? I don't want my Rams to get left out.
3. Lastly, if I buy 3 sets of 3-packs, I will get 3 controllers but I only need one right?
1. Yes
2. I don't know
3. Correct
I have really appreciated your videos on all these different setups, thanks. I think I'm going to go with SL wireless 140s in a Lian Li 011DE XL. 3 then 6 on top for 420 CPU rad(just going to rely on the fans that come with the rad for a little while.) Then 3 on the side, 3 on the bottom and 2 at the back. I've watched so many videos I've lost my clarity on recommendation for which should intake and which should exhaust so i can pick the normal or reverse blade. Thanks if you have the time.
This is my preference - th-cam.com/video/sVEXd-Wp8FY/w-d-xo.html
Intake on the bottom and side, exhaust top and rear. I find side mounted intake rad with push pull is best for cooling the CPU and case.
Thank you for this! I think I will go Montech King 95 Pro and an Arctic 360 and save a lot of money!
Call me crazy but, wireless means no cables. I think i missed the point of this new product. When i saw the USB dongle i was hoping we are going to control the fans with that only, thinking fans were bluetooth (or something like that) connected to the dongle while using batteries as power.
PS: i love your unboxing knife
wireless means the transmitter is wireless
@@TheProvokedPrawn which is, sadly, pretty pointless.
@@Rave.- No more pointless than WiFi is wireless, by communicating with your router without connecting a network cable to your PC (and most people don't consider WiFi to be wireless).
At the end of the day, one of the points of this controller is to start unifying multiple devices to a single controller (e.g. both SL V3 fans and V3 Strimer cables), instead of having a separate controller for each device.
@MrDosArcade I understand the intent. For now though, I'll have to echo another comment's sentiment:
A+ idea, D execution
It is 95% bad and older models are better. Biggest issues:
Lian li fans are dependant on windows/lconnect/usb, now wifi... 4 added points of failure and integration complexity not oresent in non proprietary standards.
Each lcd will consume 3% cpu on a 9950x in my experience... 15 fans, 50% on my cpu was used... I have to assume wifi would be more.
Why design a wifi dongle for this, when my mobo already has wifi? Why use wifi, for 2 foot comes, that's what blue tooth is for? How will having 15 wifi transmitters 6 inches from my audio circuits affect the mobo? Why are they getting power from a usb port still.... why was does it jeep changing with every product... a fundamental principle of wifi design, if your already running a big power cable to the data source, you don't need wifi, just run a tiny single cable too, wifi becomes added costs and points of failure. Why did they break the TL LCDs when they release to support wifi, how much regression and missing QAQC can we expected with the added point of failure, wifi... why the hell do I need a dongle, and why not create a real daisy chained power bus from the psu directly... wifi and power designs should be good, or they should use or extend a standard, not random walk over every possibility guaranteeing incompatibility across everything.
Had to return my TL LCDs, had hopes for the wifi line, not impressed... TL without lcds, functionally should be more adequate.
Was waiting for this thank you!
Hope it helps!
Great setup guide as always. 👍🏻
Thank you. 🙏🏻
Thanks
@@TheProvokedPrawn 🤩
Another quality video! I'm thinking to use Lian Li for my next build. What is the RGB software like?
Thanks for watching. That depends on who you ask. I like it and have no dramas.
@@TheProvokedPrawn My pleasure and no worries. I'm running Corsair ICUE and it can be quite moody!
As a corsair girl I must say im almost considering these.
They are nice
Cheaper than the rx120
nice informative video thanks. are those wireless lcd fans available for purchase ? i dont see any where they are available !!!!!!
Overclockers, NewEgg or Caseking are the best bet
Thank you, they look very nice, do you know when are they going to be available in UK?
Now from Overclockers - tidd.ly/3NtCYjp
Thank you!
Hmm I’d say if these new fans aren’t on par performance per noise the Corsair link set up might still be cleaner, when iCue works.
Concept: A+, Execution: D The amount of cable mess you have to contend with seems to be the same if not made worse by lack of hub. This time though you get the added benefit of a gigantic suppository sized dongle sticking out from the back of your computer like an engorged mutant tick lol. Again, the concept is neat, but really....it ends up looking to be more of a headache if you're mixing and matching LCD and non LCD fans....
The controller is the same for both fans, so you only need one. You can wire it internally (I showed that), so that's ok. It's actually less crazy cable wise, than previous ones. unless you tried to mix in other fans of course.
The controller can be installed internally with the included adapter cable, so it's still hidden away.
The single wire from the non-LCD fans to "somewhere else", which previously was a thicker cable with a 7-pin proprietary plug, is now a standard PWM connector with a thinner overall wire. And you can either connect these PWM cables to your motherboard headers, or to a single SATA connector that has three PWM ports, included with the controller.
For LCD fans, yes, at first glance, it seems there are more wires involved, because you have a separate power and USB data cable for each group of fans... it's a tradeoff, to add the ability to be able to mix and match LCD with non-LCD fans, which has been a feature request since the TL LCD fans were first released.
Guy didn't watch the video
How much cpu % does an lcd fan use?
are those new fans brighter than SL Unifans?
They look awesome, have you tried them on SignalRGB? If they work, is the sides mirrored or perled?
I haven't. Sorry I didn't think of it
@@TheProvokedPrawn no worries, if you ever gonna make another video on them, you could try the mb sync mode? Thx
@@HardDBR I'll try to remember!
I’ve also invested a lot in Lian Li fans and AIO. I have two pretty much new AIOs the Galahad LCD II taken out of the system because their horrible software had terrible memory leaks with it. The LConnect software is so bad it causes major stuttering in games. I also had to have the pump header replaced by LL bc it started flickering like a strobe light. Have spent so much money on their fans - which I now connect directly to a non Lian li hub which plugs into Mobo and controlled by Signal RGB. My PC had 10 AL120v2 as well
The biggest problem is that they don’t care or don’t do anything about it. They sell the expensive products that are slick with barely any support. I would steer well clear of them
How many fans can you control with one of those things though ?
I mean, i will need to control 11. 3 bottom, 3 front, 3 top, 2 back. Maybe even one more.
Frankly, having them powered by a SATA plug and daisy chain them just for power but control them wirelessly would be awesome. No cables visible anywhere. Though that might not be a problem if you go "back connect", you will still need to route FAR LESS cables.
Using several USB headers might be a problem, though there are a bunch of splitters for those to find, use one header, attach more to those, but, will that work. If you need to draw too much data for one, which i don't expect to be the case, might ruin your plans, or if it doesn't recognise them all. We really need more info on this.
Guessing these will be pricey.
You can control upto 8 channels (I.e. groups of devices) with as many as four fans per group. They said it will be 10 channels in future. So the number isn't a problem. Usb can be fixed with a hub, as I showed and used.
@@TheProvokedPrawn Yeah, wasn't really concerned for the hub, the works with most things, if it doesn't it's usually because of the hardware and or software and how that was designed, not because of what the header can handle data wise.
And later in the video i did indeed see it could handle quite a bit, so that is indeed very cool.
Now the Lian Li fan SKU number is getting quite high, i wonder when they will have the wireless infinity mirror variant.
@@gabiballetje Infinity are my fave and I'm surprised they've neglected them tbh
The 20 dollar knock offs of those fans are pretty good
The amount of fan headers that are unused on my motherboard, i can see standard fans working out but once you start adding groups of rgb lcd fans then this honestly just starts falling apart especially when motherboards have like 2 usb headers at a time and even more so if the standard fans aren't getting enough power. An extra investment will have to be to buy extra usb headers to compensate for those lcd fans.
Yeah like the Corsair USB hub I recommended 🤣
I am feeling a hard pass for these fans, I initially considered this as an option to clean my cables and neaten things up because I have in total 10 Lian Li LCD fans with 2 its controllers + the corsair hub controller and because of this I have frequent issues where the LCD's fan RPM stat is bugged out and sticks to 0RPM(fans still spin though). I am assuming this is because too many USBs and the PC is getting somehow "confused". But it looks like this wireless fans have the same number of cables connected to the original LCD fans so I don't see much difference in terms of using less cables and being tidy.
I always like to see new things, it is a good option but not sold on these. Still more interested in Zero cable format. Trying to talk to Asus to add the 600 power port of the btf Mobos to all motherboards and not only the BTF ones.
for fans i found icue link to probably be the cleanest and most cable clutter less solution right now in the market.
lian li always LOVES complicating their products
If using a set of SL wireless LCD 120mm fans with, say, two sets of SL140v2 fans(since you want them to look the same, and Lian Li hasnt released a 140mm version yet), how would that wire up to the motherboard? I'm assuming SL wireless hub and possibly the standard SL hub for the non-wireless fans, but does that cause any issue in L-Connect, or with management? Would it be better to plug the non-wireless fans directly into the mobo or a hub?
To be honest I had very wild expectations about the word "wireless" 😅 basically if you already have the TL LCD version there is no need to upgrade 🤝
Possibly not
Do they have a 140mm version for these fans?
If you have the Edge PSU, can you just plug in the cables to it?
If i get 10 wireless lian li fans and a 24pin wireless strimmer and Lian Li Strimer Wireless 12+4 pin PW16-121W. Would one controller support all of that or would i need two?
Where can I buy them I cannot find them on Amazon
Are these and the wireless strimer cables not for sale yet as each link takes me to the older controller versions.
NewEgg, Caseking and Overclockers are your best bet. Search Lian Li Wireless.
Up to how many fans can a single wireless rgb stick power? Thanks
It's not based on fans, it's based on groups. They said up to 10
Thank you.
Are these new wireless versions of the lcd fans? or can u use the "old" ones with the wifi dongle and the cables?
You cannot use the dongle with the old fans
Wonder if these white fans go yellow over time with accumulation of dust and repeated wiping with wet cloth, etc...
Nope.
@@diogopadrao4118yellowing plastic is generally not an issue these days, in all but the cheapest plastics
Is there any performance difference between the wireless and non-wireless version other than that feature?
I haven't tested that I'm afraid
I can’t find any websites that sell these…every store only sells TL LCD’s … I don’t want them infinity mirror lcd ones
Are these available in 140?
Seems like Lian Li's PSU with USB hub is the best way to use these?
Totally... especially if you're running a build with multiple groups that use at least 1x LCD fan
I already have the TL and TL LCD versions, could I just use this new PWM cable and the external USB?
Seriously doubt it.
Anyone else see the wire in the “Wireless fans” title?😂 great advertisement for non wireless but somehow wireless fans. Cool looking fans though. Do they perform better than the SL’s? 120/140 infinity mirror ones??
A lot of talking about wires for something with wireless in the name. I think that the standard non LCD fans are an upgrade, but adding the LCD doesn’t seem worth the hassle, I’d rather just buy a standalone display for the inside of my pc
DOES THIS WORK ON MY LCD FAND I ALREADY BOUGHT?
No
Nope
Darn, besides the wireless aspect, is there really a difference? I got 15 in my NV9. 8 are TL lcd 6 are the regular TL. Seeing the USB port being needed, maybe I don't need these.
Can i use my previous ATX power supply with the 011 vision compact case or do i need to buy the lian li psu?
you don't "need" the Lian Li PSU. you can use others. If you're worried about USB ports, use something like this th-cam.com/video/d8vELbWWaCQ/w-d-xo.html
@TheProvokedPrawn
Thankyou I did order the lian li edge in the end I just like the organisation of it. I've just bought the Aorus elite x870 wifi ice. I have a question do I use pcie B C or D as my second pcie slot. A is occupied with my OS pcie.
just curious do u need those 3 fans at bottom if using air cpu cooler ?
Your GPU still needs air
Internal usb to external usb adapter
I have a question, so I have a asus x670e crosshair extreme, and I want to buy 10 lian li lcd wiressless fans will that be any trouble in the sense of it being able to work?
I was looking to buy a single lcd fan for a rear fan but the wired lcd fan requires a controller to use, so I ended up returning it. For these wireless fans, if I buy a single pack lcd will I have everything I need in the box to use in my pc, granted I have an open cha fan and usb slot?
You don't get the wireless controller with a single pack. And I'm not sure it works without it as I've not tried just one fan.
Nice
Do you know if you can run wireless and wired fans and sync together? I am considering getting these fans in the 140mm varient but they dont seem to do them in 140mm reverse flow lcd which i am after
I don't know unfortunately
hope there will be 14 inch so
14 inch?
@@TheProvokedPrawn sorry, cm, i was disorientated
No USB-C and no 140mm fan seems like a few points off for effort. Thank you for the video! This will make it into my new 2025 build but Lian Li if you are reading this make a 420mm LCD AIO!
usbc would be stupid, i doubt they need more than usb 2.0 to run
@@Vextroboomin considering new boards are coming with a lot more USB-C ports it would just make sense to start moving to the new standards in 2025. I would just plug it into the header anyway.
@@unitymind still, you have to consider older motherboards that might not have as many usbc, their simply aren’t enough usbc ports to justify wasting one on rgb when theirs plenty of other devices that can take advantage, if you really wanted just get an usb a to c adapter lel
Are these actually available as of yet?
Links in the description but Overclockers, Newegg and Case king are the best bets
Lain Li, the wireless fans that arnt wireless and in fact more of a mess than previously where you really do only have 1 cable to plug into 1 controller, including the LCD fans, these just control the RGB wirelessly, the rest is a mess.
Yes....10 fans to one controller and one sata cable for tl lcd along with regular ones. You still need Sata cable especially if you are going to use white lighting. All this products does is save one controller from the strimmers.
no infinity-lcd yet?
How would that work?
@@TheProvokedPrawn infinity-mirrors on the side like the old TL LCD
Don't like the Lian Li quality. Got the non wireless LCD fans some time ago and the damn connection wire kept popping out as the cables were in a small corner. Tried to push in harder in and then the litte hook broke. Lian Li doesn't even sell those cables seperatly. Thermaltake Swafans are far better in every way with there magnetic connectors. Sure you don't have the LCD, but for the price Lian Li costs you don't get the build quality.
a wireless but not wireless fans.
"Wireless"
Yup. 2.4Ghz
i don't see the point in even calling this wireless if it uses more wires than their competitor's wired option lol
Lian-Li's uni fans have always been a mixed bag when it came to "simplifying" things.
i think their fans are better than Corsair for the most part, but their execution is just piss poor when it comes to avoiding cable clutter.
also their LCD fans are pretty pointless tbh, why would to need to put an LCD on a cooling fan? this honestly has no practical use whatsoever and its just for bragging rights at this point.
Corsair really nailed it with their icue link system, their pricing is just a bit steep and their fan portfolio is just kinda weird, you would expect the QX fans to be the best performing ones being the top of their lineup, but it is the RX fans which are at the bottom of their lineup that are actually their best fans in terms of performance lol
Ive just bought all the icue link system and i can safely say unless your spending big bucks and using the QX version fans (£125 for x3 but worse than rx120s) the rest of the icue link fans are kinda crappy RGB (eg. rx120) for the money, the lian li sl-inf are soo much better for value and also look better and perform as good...just a shame theres a few more wires... Im kind of tempted to send all this icue link stuff back and go with lian li sl-infinity 120 instead as these rx120s Purley for looks 😅
@@BlazedReefer
when i reconfigured my case with new fans (i was using Noctua's A14-IndustrialPPC fans) i initially wanted to go with Lian-Li's Uni Infinity mirror sl140's because i thought they looked cool and their performance was also pretty good, but then after some research my biggest issue with the Lian-Li stuff is that if you're going with 120mm then you're pretty much set because they provide anything you need in the box (the controller and wires etc.), but if you're going with the 140mm version you are SOL and have to buy additional equipment separately (the multiple controllers and wires etc.) since they only sell the 140mm versions individually and not in special packs.
another issue i had with Lian-Li's Uni equipment is that its a big bunch of wires for what they claim to be "seamless single cable" approach, i think Corsair really nailed it with their ICUE LINK ecosystem tbh.
as for the fans performance, yes the Lian-Li fans do perform quite a bit better than the corsair QX's, in both RGB modes and visual aesthetics in general, but when it comes to performance, in the end the biggest difference you would see between fans is at most a 3c degree difference, which for all of the additional cable clutter that Lian-Li's approach brings i'd just stick with ICUE LINK if i already have it.
in the end these are just fans, and if you have a good case with ample airflow then it doesn't really make you HAVE to get the best performing fans.
in my case, right now i've been using only QX140 fans instead of the older Noctua fans i had (i have 3 140mm's in the front for intake, 3 140mm's in the top for my AIO rad set as exhaust and a single 140mm in the back for exhaust) and from my own personal experience after running this configuration with QX140's in the past 4 months i honestly only see a marginal 2-3 degrees c difference (as in the QX fans make my PC run a little bit hotter).
but this can accumulate to multiple reasons, such as it was actually a little bit chillier before i switched to the QX140 fans, now its a little bit warmer etc.
either way, for a 2-3 degrees difference? it honestly really does not matter what types of fans you use lol
so in that regard, at least with my case (C700M) and in my opinion for aesthetics the QX140 are much cleaner looking than the UNI INF SL140's, and of course ICUE LINK is a far superior system to Lian-Li's UNI system.
in the end tbh (and as long as you have a GOOD performing case), it all really comes down to which fans you think look better, and which sacrifices you are willing to make to use them (PRICE vs Cable and controller Clutter etc.)
@@HoLDoN4Sec for the price id still say lian li wins, lian li are cheaper the the RX and twice as cheap as the QX so that alone is a huge factor, it's a no brainer if buying a new pc build go with lian over Corsair and get visually better and performance matched for half the price... worth having an extra 2/3 wires (that you dont see) for half the price and better quality,, and the sl inf 120/140 v1s look sooooo much better than the rx or QX infact they look better than ANY Corsair fans! ...i cant even be debating that lol it just does... They run cooler, look visually better, have more RGB, have backwards versions available, are cheaper to buy, and perform better.. win win in my opinion.. only thing corsair icue link has going for it is less wires...but at double the cost and worse performance.
@@BlazedReefer you are forgetting something, Lian Li is definitely the best option for 120mm, and they even have special starter packs for their 120mm fans to get you easy going into their UNI ecosystem.
but their 140mm fans are a completely different story, since they don't have starter packs for their 140mm fans you have to get your fan controller from somewhere else which sucks.
if you also want to use their striker wires you need another completely different controller for that as well.
Lian Li's UNI offerings, especially for 140mm is a mess.
also keep in mind that most people that opt for Corsair's QX fans don't really care about the cost (i mean, these are 50$ fans) and just favor looks over performance.
as for build quality, i will have to disagree with you, Lian Li's fans are kinda cheaply made and hollow compared to any other fan i'm aware of, and the RX fans do have superior build quality to Lian Li's fan, at least that is what i noticed from my experience comparing the SLIN140 to the RX140's, the SLIN140's felt kinda cheaply made while the RX140 felt solid.
neither of which by the way get even remotely to as well made as any Noctua fan i have here, in comparison both of them feel like shit in terms of build quality but i digress
Why couldn't they just make them infinity fans like everyone really wanted. I'll not be buying these for that very reason.
Infinity are the best
its very lame you can control screen with wireless. pass.
I will never ever buy something from Lian Li again the TL-LCD Fan is the worst piece of crab i ever put into my System not even a year in 2 out of 7 are dead 3 are noisy and don´t get me started on L-Connect 3 this Software is a crime against humanity
Oh no. Sorry to hear it. I hope Lian Li support helped you
@@TheProvokedPrawn I have to say the RMA was unproblematic but It left a bad taste in my mouth
i think this is unnecessary
What?
do they have a wireless version for the non LCD?