I agree the Milwaukee cases are the hardest to get bits out of onlybgood thing is if you drop it out of a truck and 60 plus with case open the buts will still be in the case sleeves even if it case shatters lol @Man Caver Tools
@@AntonioClaudioMichael amazing the amount of people who don’t know the name for the square headed screws. The Robertson has been around for a very long time but yet people still say the square one. A bit like people calling the Torx the star version lol.
Having used both torx and robertson i prefer torx still. Ordered a 5lb box of 3" deck screws on home depots site cuz they dont have em in stock in the USA. Wanted to see what they were all about, better than philips but i have more cam out with the robertson and almost never have cam out with torx
Picked up my ryobi bits yesterday..... Thanks Man caver Tools guy. lol. At least they lasted long enough to put together my tv stand that took 3 hours to put together.
He tells us the only bits not to get are the Ryobi bits, and what do you do? Go out and get the Ryobi? That's great! Haha I agree with Dave (And Chaka Gillis)...Ryobi (bits) are garbage. You're best off staying away from them because they're junk!
@@El_Diablo_LI except I bought them the day before this video to put together a tv stand. For the most part they won’t be used for mission critical jobs. Just odds and ends.
I haven't bought Phillips head screws in decades. The only use for a Phillips head bit is when it's needed to service something that comes assembled with them. A Robertson head bit will not strip nearly as readily as a Phillips. I buy the Robertsons in packs of 30. I couldn't afford the cost of Phillips needed for the same work volume.
Well I have a random assortment of ryobi bits and generally don't have issues with them. I have Dewalt as well. Leaning more towards the Dewalt kits now as they seem to have a better assortment of other items in them. At the end of the day, I don't rely on any to pay the bills so I'm happy with what I have. They are meant to wear out so if I know I'm doing to use alot of screws, I buy the box of Dewalt. But I guess I'm lucky with the Ryobi thus far.
I typically use PH2, Torx 25, and occasionally a Roberston 2. So lately I've been looking at bit cases a little differently. Most cases on average contain less of the 3 main I use and a load of other niche bits. So when I consider the price for the box I am usually paying 15-20 bucks for less than 10 bits... thats not my idea of value. Would be great if someone started a custom bit box company where I can select what I want and pay accordingly.
I have started to just order the bits in bulk that I need and use old cases for them. Montana brand sells 20 piece cases of 1 inch PH2, SQ2, and T25. I have full rows of T25 and PH2 in an old Makita Gold case. I've started to use a lot of Simpson Strong Tie 316SS fasteners (live very near the ocean so I really need some corrosion resistance) and those jerks use a ton of T20 and even T15 heads on their screws. Like come on guys, I have all of these damn T25s, Montana Brand doesn't even sell T15s, while they have T20s, not in bulk. But HD sells 3 packs of Makita XPS bits, so I also have a bunch of those in that same old MG case. All that said, a 3 pack of Makita XPS 2 inch bits will last for a long-ass time.
I do like the Makita bits, but don't like the latch for the case. I actually like the Milwaukee cases, as they are easy open/close. Though, I do hate how hard the bits are to get out. I 3D printed some bit holders, which are working just a bit better and allowed me to do some customization of the holders to work with some specific bits.
I've had good luck with Milwaukee personally. But then again, I take the time to make sure that I'm aligning the bit on the same axis as the driver (this is operator error not tool). Most people have already got their booger picker clinching the ugga dugga trigger before aligning the tool and or smash the trigger to much to allow the bit/attachment correctly orient and engage it. That said, as you referenced @ProjectFarm did like the Makita bits and said they held up pretty good.
I like the inside of the Dewalt cases but the edges on the outside snag on pockets and tools inide my tool bag when shoving them in. Switched to the Milwaukee and found the smooth and beveled exterior of the case makes them much easier to slide into my tool bag. Bits are difficult to remove at first.
My favorite bits on the Milwaukee ones. But I agree the cases suck for getting the bits out. What I did was just take them all out and got a packout small parts organizers and separated them by bit styles. Much easier. Just open the packout and grab the bit I need.
The Hitis are expensive because of the brand name. A Montana Brand set that includes 4 nut drivers costs $24. That Kobalt set looks a LOT like MB hardware, and since they're a contract manufacturer, they might make them. Really wish someone would sell a good empty customizable case. Bosch advertises kind of like they do, but you have to buy bits with the inserts, you can't get empty inserts. And then you end up spending more than if you just bought a set and trashed everything in it.
lol! I bough a Ryobi 70 pice kit due to the price (20-30$ sale if i recall), forget that. I ended up having some older random bits, dewalt that came with a kit, and bosch and on one project because I used multiple tools I was using all the bits in diff tools and i started avoiding the tool with ryobi bit or swapping them (the fit was horrible on screws). I also broke a ryobi drill bit first time i used it repairing a computer chair. I went and got a old set and i mean like 30-40 years old from the garage and finished the job with no issues.
Go to home depot or hf and grab the rolling magnet and roll it up and down your grass toll you find it only 20 or so bucks it's ment for picking up tons of nails and metal on ground on the jobsite might help ya find ya bit David @Man Caver Tools
I have dewalt max fit and max torque I have Milwaukee and makita gold and makita xps I love them all but my most favorite is the makita xps @Man Caver Tools
Makita XPS is my favorite as well. Love watching the stream last week. I watched up a few days after the stream ended. I want to try to join next Sunday
Huge Ryobi cordless tool fan but couldn’t agree more about their bits (and blades for that matter). Complete junk. Just wish I realized that before I bought their 300 piece kit. But at least I got it 50% off. I really like the Milwaukee case. It’s hard getting the bits out but I like knowing they are never going to fall out on their hands own even if dropped. The ability to move rows of bit around and add more rows is a nice feature as well.
I have found my DeWalt bits are better than my Milwaukee bits for fit. I wish I could find some Makita Gold around here, because those are the best, even better than the Makita XPS bits.
I echo your thoughts exactly. The Makita xps bits are the best by a country mile and the Ryobi bits are a joke. Ryobi should be embarrassed to sell those things.
I never had problems with bits , only the cheapest broke .Bits are comsumer goods so you shouldnt spend 90$ on them. The only bits i disliked were Milwaukee Shockwave PZ2 because they have a pretty loose fit
Its your favorite because it cost the most.. Ive watched all your videos and ive seen you break the shit out of makita bits and what do you grab ? Ryobi in videos what like 20 to 140 everything you had was ryobi and you absolutely loved everything ryobi thats what brought me to this channel years ago.. But I see a trend when you started buying into other brands hilti quickly became you#1. makita bits are actually not as tough as Milwaukee project farm proved that they are not the best 🙄 that is your preference. I remember that one video you said uh like 700 times I remember when you used to have your Newports In frame lol basically 😂 ive watched you transform over the years ive watched you contradict yourself in so many videos 📹 🤣 you've changed and it probably was for the best because lets face it how long can you make videos on just ryobi lol with all that said much love and respect absolutely love the channel and will continue watching until you stop producing them. And yes ryobi bits are trash 🗑 but makita are not the toughest
XPS bits rule. DeWalt cases are really nice and seems Flex (Chervon) makes them. Bosch are hit or miss, but over rated. ChinaWaukee are Meh. Dewalts hold up ok and their drill bits are awesome. ....here come the fangurl tear replies....LOL.
Bosch extra hard are very good bits, at 50 cent a piece can hold 60-70% of some 3 USD impact heavy duty one. But there is no kit I like. I use a grey Bosch kit that is flater so I can place other staff above, but the bits inside are mediocre S2 steel, and when one get bad I replace it with Bosch extra hard, Wera , Wera impact 1 USD a piece, Felo, Makita, Hilti, Festool, etc.
@@loochan325 Some good option are out there for sure, but when it comes to performance & price, the XPS are hard to beat. They also offer a plethora of options and are readily available at some outlets and many online shops. www.makitatools.com/products/impactxps
I think Project Farm channel would dispute your findings on bit quality/durability . . . just sayin' $90 for a bit kit? Are you NUTZ? Nut setters aren't that expensive.
Im sorry but if you are gonna make silly claims that Makita XPS are the best driver bits you can buy i might have to unsubscribe. Reality check, besides Hilti (which comes out of the Wera factory) these are all cheap bits from China or Taiwan and not made or designed by any of the brands, its all bought off the shelf.
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I agree the Milwaukee cases are the hardest to get bits out of onlybgood thing is if you drop it out of a truck and 60 plus with case open the buts will still be in the case sleeves even if it case shatters lol @Man Caver Tools
In canada we use square head for deck screw
Good old trusty robertson
@@AntonioClaudioMichael amazing the amount of people who don’t know the name for the square headed screws. The Robertson has been around for a very long time but yet people still say the square one. A bit like people calling the Torx the star version lol.
Having used both torx and robertson i prefer torx still. Ordered a 5lb box of 3" deck screws on home depots site cuz they dont have em in stock in the USA. Wanted to see what they were all about, better than philips but i have more cam out with the robertson and almost never have cam out with torx
In the US, we use Torx/Star for that.
@@matthewjbauer1990 we do have torx as well but it cost twice as much
Picked up my ryobi bits yesterday..... Thanks Man caver Tools guy. lol. At least they lasted long enough to put together my tv stand that took 3 hours to put together.
😂
He tells us the only bits not to get are the Ryobi bits, and what do you do? Go out and get the Ryobi? That's great! Haha
I agree with Dave (And Chaka Gillis)...Ryobi (bits) are garbage. You're best off staying away from them because they're junk!
@@El_Diablo_LI except I bought them the day before this video to put together a tv stand. For the most part they won’t be used for mission critical jobs. Just odds and ends.
"The only one's I've never used are the square ones". Canadians: "WHAAAA???"
He apparently doesn’t do any electrical work, or he likes stripping terminal screws with a Phillips bits.
I haven't bought Phillips head screws in decades. The only use for a Phillips head bit is when it's needed to service something that comes assembled with them. A Robertson head bit will not strip nearly as readily as a Phillips. I buy the Robertsons in packs of 30. I couldn't afford the cost of Phillips needed for the same work volume.
To Ryobi’s credit, I’ve heard it was them who developed the Shockwave bits and it’s was TTI’s decision to make it exclusive to Milwaukee.
Ouch. That must hurt.
That reminds me of pontiac, the project banshee and the corvette c3
When I get the bits out of the desalt case, it works much better when you angle the bit up first and it will pull right out! Thank you fir this video!
Well I have a random assortment of ryobi bits and generally don't have issues with them. I have Dewalt as well. Leaning more towards the Dewalt kits now as they seem to have a better assortment of other items in them. At the end of the day, I don't rely on any to pay the bills so I'm happy with what I have. They are meant to wear out so if I know I'm doing to use alot of screws, I buy the box of Dewalt. But I guess I'm lucky with the Ryobi thus far.
I typically use PH2, Torx 25, and occasionally a Roberston 2. So lately I've been looking at bit cases a little differently. Most cases on average contain less of the 3 main I use and a load of other niche bits. So when I consider the price for the box I am usually paying 15-20 bucks for less than 10 bits... thats not my idea of value. Would be great if someone started a custom bit box company where I can select what I want and pay accordingly.
I have started to just order the bits in bulk that I need and use old cases for them. Montana brand sells 20 piece cases of 1 inch PH2, SQ2, and T25. I have full rows of T25 and PH2 in an old Makita Gold case.
I've started to use a lot of Simpson Strong Tie 316SS fasteners (live very near the ocean so I really need some corrosion resistance) and those jerks use a ton of T20 and even T15 heads on their screws. Like come on guys, I have all of these damn T25s, Montana Brand doesn't even sell T15s, while they have T20s, not in bulk. But HD sells 3 packs of Makita XPS bits, so I also have a bunch of those in that same old MG case. All that said, a 3 pack of Makita XPS 2 inch bits will last for a long-ass time.
I do like the Makita bits, but don't like the latch for the case. I actually like the Milwaukee cases, as they are easy open/close. Though, I do hate how hard the bits are to get out. I 3D printed some bit holders, which are working just a bit better and allowed me to do some customization of the holders to work with some specific bits.
I've had good luck with Milwaukee personally. But then again, I take the time to make sure that I'm aligning the bit on the same axis as the driver (this is operator error not tool). Most people have already got their booger picker clinching the ugga dugga trigger before aligning the tool and or smash the trigger to much to allow the bit/attachment correctly orient and engage it. That said, as you referenced @ProjectFarm did like the Makita bits and said they held up pretty good.
Milwaukee does that with their cases so if they hit the floor in the open position you don't have bits falling out everywhere.
That’s actually a great idea, Excellent product, ty,
Amen on Milwaukee. Too hard to get bits out.
I use and really like the Wurth kit 105 piece but it is expensive. It has a nice metal case and closed cell foam to hold the bits tightly in place
I have the makita 60 piece set always use it I have Milwaukee brand new sets I haven’t touched
We are milwaukee and ryobi fans and we 100% agree the ryobi drill driver set is a big waste of money! Ryobi needs to fix that!!
Howdy mr Dave y’all is wise beyond your years thanks for the informative vid have a happy 4th
I agree with you about the waste of money for Ryobi bits.😫
I think Vince at VCG said that the Milwaukee shockwave bits were originally developed by Ryobi. But they were so good they sell them as the Milwaukee.
yeah, I saw that too.
I like the inside of the Dewalt cases but the edges on the outside snag on pockets and tools inide my tool bag when shoving them in. Switched to the Milwaukee and found the smooth and beveled exterior of the case makes them much easier to slide into my tool bag. Bits are difficult to remove at first.
Great video bro! I concur, Ryobi bit sets are just about the worst I’ve ever tried. I use DeWalt or Milwaukee. I’d like to try Flex also.
I think the Bosch custom cases are the best cases made. Open easy, close easy, bits come in and out easy. I put my preferred bits in the Bosch case.
My favorite bits on the Milwaukee ones. But I agree the cases suck for getting the bits out. What I did was just take them all out and got a packout small parts organizers and separated them by bit styles. Much easier. Just open the packout and grab the bit I need.
Love the Dewalt bits
The Hitis are expensive because of the brand name. A Montana Brand set that includes 4 nut drivers costs $24. That Kobalt set looks a LOT like MB hardware, and since they're a contract manufacturer, they might make them.
Really wish someone would sell a good empty customizable case. Bosch advertises kind of like they do, but you have to buy bits with the inserts, you can't get empty inserts. And then you end up spending more than if you just bought a set and trashed everything in it.
Love the DeWalt cases
Just do what I do. Put the makita bits in the dewalt cases lol.
Project farm did a test too.
Have you tried the bosch bits dave? @Man Caver Tools
You obviously did not watch the video.
I have not and I need to get some along with craftsman
lol! I bough a Ryobi 70 pice kit due to the price (20-30$ sale if i recall), forget that. I ended up having some older random bits, dewalt that came with a kit, and bosch and on one project because I used multiple tools I was using all the bits in diff tools and i started avoiding the tool with ryobi bit or swapping them (the fit was horrible on screws). I also broke a ryobi drill bit first time i used it repairing a computer chair. I went and got a old set and i mean like 30-40 years old from the garage and finished the job with no issues.
Go to home depot or hf and grab the rolling magnet and roll it up and down your grass toll you find it only 20 or so bucks it's ment for picking up tons of nails and metal on ground on the jobsite might help ya find ya bit David @Man Caver Tools
I agree with you 100% Ryobi is cheap everyone has their own bit set they like dewalt is good for me so is bosch
That is absolutely untrue. The only people that loose bits don't take care of their tools while working they throw and go as we like to put it.
I have dewalt max fit and max torque I have Milwaukee and makita gold and makita xps I love them all but my most favorite is the makita xps @Man Caver Tools
Makita XPS is my favorite as well. Love watching the stream last week. I watched up a few days after the stream ended. I want to try to join next Sunday
@@ManCaverTools what stream are you referring to
I have a case in my toolchest marked "Junk drill bits"... it's a Ryobi kit and used some used Dewalts. Ryobi bits suck.
Ryobi Deal Finders has Ridgid bit sets
You should check out Flex's driver bit set. VCG Construction says it's good and I want to hear your opinion on them
Huge Ryobi cordless tool fan but couldn’t agree more about their bits (and blades for that matter). Complete junk. Just wish I realized that before I bought their 300 piece kit. But at least I got it 50% off.
I really like the Milwaukee case. It’s hard getting the bits out but I like knowing they are never going to fall out on their hands own even if dropped. The ability to move rows of bit around and add more rows is a nice feature as well.
Guess I’m lucky I haven’t lost any of my bits
I have found my DeWalt bits are better than my Milwaukee bits for fit. I wish I could find some Makita Gold around here, because those are the best, even better than the Makita XPS bits.
Git afterm' David!!! Great video!!
Great vid man
I echo your thoughts exactly. The Makita xps bits are the best by a country mile and the Ryobi bits are a joke. Ryobi should be embarrassed to sell those things.
I found a new hilti ph2 on the floor at my jobsite
Score!
The best drill bits dewalt hands down
I don't think I've heard anyone praise Ryobi bits. Bosch, Dewalt, Milwaukee yes. But not Ryobi.
17/64 drill bit will fix the Milwaukee cases for being so tight
Bosch sets literally go from 29 to 19 to 9.99 in lowes....I keep copping dude... price is right and the drop is tight. Can't go wrong with Bosch baby
Great info 👍
I never had problems with bits , only the cheapest broke .Bits are comsumer goods so you shouldnt spend 90$ on them. The only bits i disliked were Milwaukee Shockwave PZ2 because they have a pretty loose fit
Don't forget about hart and wiha bits. my wife said the cases should be magnetic.
My favorite is makita and wiha then Milwaukee, dewalt.
Project Farm tested a bunch of bits, and DeWalt and Makita came out on top. Wiha tools are great, but their bits did not do so well.
I saw his testing. I’m in the trades and it’s just my preference for the work I do. Everyone has a preference.
so in conclusion buy the dewalt one for the case buy the makita for the bits
No wiha? 😏
lol
Dewalt is the best bits!
Its your favorite because it cost the most.. Ive watched all your videos and ive seen you break the shit out of makita bits and what do you grab ? Ryobi in videos what like 20 to 140 everything you had was ryobi and you absolutely loved everything ryobi thats what brought me to this channel years ago.. But I see a trend when you started buying into other brands hilti quickly became you#1. makita bits are actually not as tough as Milwaukee project farm proved that they are not the best 🙄 that is your preference. I remember that one video you said uh like 700 times I remember when you used to have your Newports In frame lol basically 😂 ive watched you transform over the years ive watched you contradict yourself in so many videos 📹 🤣 you've changed and it probably was for the best because lets face it how long can you make videos on just ryobi lol with all that said much love and respect absolutely love the channel and will continue watching until you stop producing them. And yes ryobi bits are trash 🗑 but makita are not the toughest
Project farm tested the old Makita gold bits.
Not the new XPS bits that just came out last year.
The XPS bits are far better.
why do you think I even care about what you just typed? its called evolution bro. stop being a millennial
Bits go the same place the 10mm sockets go. To Narnia. lol
Use magnets in your tool belts like i do mines
I can't stand Milwaukee bits....the case iS stiff af and then whenever you finally get your bit out? It's snaps 🤣 Makita and Bosch baby
XPS bits rule. DeWalt cases are really nice and seems Flex (Chervon) makes them. Bosch are hit or miss, but over rated. ChinaWaukee are Meh. Dewalts hold up ok and their drill bits are awesome. ....here come the fangurl tear replies....LOL.
Bosch extra hard are very good bits, at 50 cent a piece can hold 60-70% of some 3 USD impact heavy duty one. But there is no kit I like. I use a grey Bosch kit that is flater so I can place other staff above, but the bits inside are mediocre S2 steel, and when one get bad I replace it with Bosch extra hard, Wera , Wera impact 1 USD a piece, Felo, Makita, Hilti, Festool, etc.
@@loochan325 Some good option are out there for sure, but when it comes to performance & price, the XPS are hard to beat. They also offer a plethora of options and are readily available at some outlets and many online shops. www.makitatools.com/products/impactxps
👍🏻🍩🍦☕☕☕🍕
Crescent APEX?
I think Project Farm channel would dispute your findings on bit quality/durability . . . just sayin'
$90 for a bit kit? Are you NUTZ? Nut setters aren't that expensive.
the ones you get at Home Depot or lowes aren't expensive.
@@lilbeanie5078 not by my assessment
No Wera Tool-Check PLUS? Do yourself a favor.
I thank you for viewing truth
Im sorry but if you are gonna make silly claims that Makita XPS are the best driver bits you can buy i might have to unsubscribe. Reality check, besides Hilti (which comes out of the Wera factory) these are all cheap bits from China or Taiwan and not made or designed by any of the brands, its all bought off the shelf.
The makita are not the best…. Pure junk
Man , all Ryobi products are garbage not only bits )))
Dave? Have a bunch of the dewalt attachable cases love them Milwaukee cases are huge for what you get in them @Man Caver Tools