The reason why they don't sell is that their phones are simply not available at retail stores and operators, only at Sony shops where a lot less people walk in...
BestBuy has deals with the vendors, and will receive kickback revenue on specific brands. Typically whichever section of the store is dominated by one brand it seems, that's the brand the store is encouraged to sell the most of. So yes...the Samsung phones get almost ALL the glory because it's all tied to the money. Source: I worked at my local BBY for 3 years and we were told firsthand to give preferrential treatment to Samsung, even if the customer wanted a different TV model if possible. @@Worthless.
Sony phones use to be at retail stores. They just didn't sell well so Sony probably stopped paying stores to stock them or stored didn't order them to stock in their stores. If you want a certain phone people are able to order it from where ever they are located.
well its kinda true though innit? its always the samsung or iphone, maybe an odd pixel but i'd rather have a phone that is not popular, have something different xperia 1 OG
And if they actually have to make their exposure big, they will start removing useful things like headphone jack, microSD slot and things like that. If Sony starts removing useful things to win people's hearts, it will be the final nail in the coffin.
not exactly, it's going the LG path kinda even tho LG auto mode is wonderful for it's age V60 from 2020 but they fucked up the marketing so bad that no one was getting them besides LG lovers like I'm. I would love to get an Xperia for me personally but the lack of software support like he mentioned is a killer I can't justify spinning big money for a phone with that kinda support I would rather get myself a Samsung flagship and get an external media player
In my opinion doing that does the exact opposite of winning people over. That move made business sense for Apple because they already have the most loyal customer base of any tech brand ever. You could maybe argue that also applied to Samsung (though even their flagships are getting destroyed by the iPhone in sales, with there now being effectively very little that gives their S phones the edge over the iPhone). For other brands I think it would be way more beneficial to actually offer more features in order to actually pull people away from Samsung and Apple.
Yeah, Xperia 10 V does not have a notification LED anymore. I'm sad. Otherwise, it's a good midranger, if you can find it for under 300 USD / EUR. Not worth paying more, really.
@@walid6329 Fair point but the same could easily be said about Samsung. I can't justify spending $1000 on a phone which has a black hole on the screen, no expandable storage (especially considering the lowest storage option is 128 GB, with a 200 MP camera which takes gigantic pictures which use a lot of space), a weird aspect ratio and no headphone jack
That's not true, there's no part of 'appealing to a large audience' that requires the removal of the headphone jack and sd card. You make it sound like that's something consumers ask for and that's not the case. Those are blatantly anti consumer practices that do not benefit the user in anyway. The goal was to make more money and when apple showed it's possible and how much money you can really make the entire industry followed suit. Just like removing the charger claiming everyone already has a charger when almost no one has the special charger the new device requries.
it pisses me off that carriers are the gatekeepers for what phones are allowed to flourish in the USA. Samsung and Apple are great, but there are so many other great phones out there too. But we can't actually allow global competition, only domestic companies and close allies get to sell phones here. People still believe the Huawei backdoor myths despite there being no evidence in their phones. Do you think its a coincidence they were banned the same year Huawei was overtaking Apple in market share?
Where I live (Chile), Sony doesn't even ship them to anywhere in the continent I think. While I think they would obviously benefit from more aggressive marketing, no marketing (or lack of) changes the fact these phones look stellar, at least to me. I am really looking forward to the phone's price dropping a bit more so I can buy the 1 V
@@SonyEnthusiastSony hasn't sold phones, in the US since they were Sony Erickson. It's just iPhones, Samsung and Motorola. Well Google Pixel also. They can't compete against iPhones.
@@CarlosGarcia-zt3mr are you in the US? Best Buy has sold Sony phones in store up until the Xperia 1 as seen here: th-cam.com/video/DhY-bce3570/w-d-xo.htmlsi=vcrQ-ZcrE6W2xFR- They sell Sony phones online too
Whats funny is I have used most of the foldables, the iphone 15 pro max,the Onplus open,s23 Ultra ect. I keep coming back to the Xperia 1v! I love this phone. It has everything I need. and the size is perfect.
When I wanted to buy my Sony Xperia 1 V I compared it with iPhone 14 Pro Max and Samsung S23 Ultra and Sony was better in every aspect. I understand differences in taste, but believe me, THERE ARE people who prefer Sony phones. The only problem with Sony is that they have fallen behind in marketing.
I have had all the latest Xperia and I'd have a lot to say. The Xperia 1 V is spectacular in every way. I agree with the problem of short update support but this phone takes wonderful photos in auto mode, but it gives the best in manual mode. Xperia 1 IV had overheating problems, it's true, but after 2 patches the problem was completely fixed. I would add that with the Xperia 1 V I get 10 hours of screen use, but not at 120hz. I should give it a try. Sony batteries are formidable because after several years they still last a very long time. They have excellent long-term durability. Photos at night now look beautiful, and the audio from videos I record at concerts or in noisy places is incredibly clear. I conclude by saying that the audio jack, the SD card support, the dual-level shutter button, no punch holes are something that I hope they keep in their phones. And speed and responsiveness, god, it's something you have to try! I hope they improve the marketing and extend the years of support!
So true about the battery life. I recently went back to my old XZ1 Compact due to wanting to try a game with a new account without having to switch accounts on my Galaxy S10e. Now, the Compact is SIX years old now (give or take, depending on how you calculate it), and I bought it new and used it for 3-4 years, after which I had to buy a new phone because I had dropped the Compact too many times and things were giving away and didn't feel stable anymore. So it has spent about 2 years in my drawer, without really being charged as often as it should have been, but to my surprise, the battery was still alive and well after so much time AND had charge to spare, even though not being charged for MANY months! What's more, upon charging it fully, the battery hasn't really given up at all, it keeps the charge very nicely (but I'm only using the phone with wi-fi now, and playing one game which is very battery friendly) but still...it's a phone from 2017, that has been used for 4 years and then lay in a box for 2 years...and still alive and kicking, and kicking quite good actually! It's even speedier and more responsive than my current phone, which is 4 years old! To me, that is simply amazing. But the old compacts aren't being made anymore and the new compacts aren't really compact, nor do they have good performance (looking at you, Xperia 10). But the battery life...oh wow.
The absence of LG in the market is noticeable; in my view, their final releases (Velvet and Wing) were impressive. I would easily use them, but there was a lack of a cohesive mobile ecosystem and software refinement/updates. Sony seems to sacrifice sales to do things their own way, but when their home country prefers iPhones over Xperias, something really needs to be seriously reconsidered.
I have the LG V60...but I got the S22 Ultra back in March 2022...On February 2023 I decided to move back to my old LG v60 for a few reasons... 1. The LG V60 still has better battery life, I get consistent 8-9 hours screen on time. Compared to the s22 Ultra that gives me 5-6 hours, and thats on FHD+ and 60hz setting. 2. I still prefer photos taken on the V60. The S22 Ultra have to much saturation in colors and dont have Ultra Wide Correction. Also shutter lag on the S22 Ultra is anoying and its an expensive phone to have that problem. 3. The V60 still has more powerful speakers compared to the weaker s22 Ultra. 4. I got a 1TB Sandisk Ultra Pro SD card for cheap that I put in my V60. But using the s22 Ultra for about 11 months then jumping back to the V60, I actually like the more natural colors on the V60. And going down from 1440p screen to a 1080p screen isn't really noticeable to me. But now Im back to Sony's camp as of November 2023 , owning previous Z5 Premium and XZ Premium as well...I am a happy owners of an Xperia 1 V 😊
I don't agree with that last part, since as far as I know, Sony's not trying to be mainstream or the #1 phone company in sales. Apple manufactures way more phones than Sony do, it's only natural that way more people will have them, not to mention Apple is way more aggressive with their marketing and mass-appeal pretty much everywhere. Most people don't buy Apple phones for their specs; they buy them because they're Apple
@@AnythingGoesJoJoI about cried when I had to give up on my V60 last week. A true monster phone. I would purchase have another but no security updates. Got a Pixel 8 Pro but would have bought a Sony if they weren't overpriced by about 300 dollars.
Not all phones under the sun needs to be built for the same people with the same aesthetics same apps and same features. I hate when reviewers take a phone, realize it's not a Samsung or an iPhone and immediately come to the conclusion that everyone should get an iPhone instead or maybe a Samsung if you are old, because the cameras, and phones are actually just cameras with a texting feature attached. I'm sure you've all been very successful in college and learned a ton of stuff to do videos on the internet, but imagine someone wants a phone with flagship SoC and does not take photos at all or once in a blue moon. I feel reviewers are extremely biased, and manufacturers found a great loophole to become user-hostile in the name of "progress" based on their biased feedback, and the average user is left without a choice. I currently use an LG V60, old phone, yet to this day there is not a single device that has all the features I use on a daily basis on my V60, hence there is no replacement for me. I use the desktop mode every day. Great, Samsung has that, but I also use software that only runs on Snapdragon, and Samsung is selling only it's Exynos garbage over in the EU and has the gall to sell it more expensive too. So, I could go with Motorola, but their flagship lacks expandable storage, which would be fine if they were to sell 512 GB or 1 TB models, but they don't. Also the headphone jack. Sure, I could embrace the dongle life, but frankly I lived the dongle life back in the Nokia days, and miss me with that sh1t! It's not even about listening music on the go, I can use a pair of wireless beans if there are no alternatives, but a lot of times I need to test some sound equipment and I need something to play music from, do you really want me to carry around a decades old iPod? Phones peaked around a decade ago, currently all you can buy is trash.
Pretty well said, especially the "and phones are actually just cameras with a texting feature attached" part. The person in the video brought up Sony professional cameras and music players, but do the professional cameras have a 4K 120hz display with Snapdragon 8 Gen 2? Can the music player take flagship-grade pictures? Of course not. The idea of a phone is having a wide variety of features in one place. Phones are like a jack of all trades but master of none; not a single smartphone in the entire planet can take the best pictures in the world, or have the best display in the world, or the strongest performance in the world, or the best audio in the world, so I think it's a strange argument to bring up that "if the average point-and-shoot customer won't use Sony phone, and pro camera photographer uses pro camera instead of phone for pictures, who is this phone for?" completely missing that a phone is a phone, not a professional camera nor professional audio player
its not that its just "super niche" its that a lot of parts of it are objectively bad. the auto camera mode is objectively bad, the software support is objectively bad, the software itself is bad, it doesnt have adaptive refresh rate so the battery efficiency is bad, it has overheating problems and the fingerprint sensor is known to fail in many units. if it just had extra enthusiast features there wouldnt be a problem, the problem is all those special features come at a compromise. reviewers dont just hate sony, there are legit criticisms being made and from what i can see, sony doesnt really care to improve these things.
@@moon-pw1bi I like how you gave a much more concise and fair review of the phone than this long video did. Just don't forget the positives: form factor, no notch, SD card slot, dual SIM, extra camera button, and headphone jack.
All of that what you mention in your comment has change the Xperia 1VI has proven that which i have . Their is a new aspect ratio 19.5.9 the camera has been updatet now you only one camera app . And the batterylife is isanly good in this phone the 4 k screen is gone 120 herz refresh rate can go down to 1 herz their is alot of changes in the Xperia 1VI it is a totaly diffrent phone . And also the software support is now longer 3 year of OS updates and 4 years of security updates all of that together is a step in the rigth direction . I think Sony has now understood that they now can sell their phones to a wider audience .@@moon-pw1bi
I am still using Sony XZ2 which I bought in 2018. I remember in December 2022 while at Canada Wonderland at -10 C, I could still take pictures and videos. Battery performance wasn't affected while my husband's samsung drained rapidly 😂.
I am using a Sony (previously Sony Ericsson) phone for about 20+ years, my last one Xperia 1 III purchased a week after they came out in Japan a bit over 2 and a half years ago. I like the phones because yes they have always had to have everything available software and hardware, they are durable and since ages ago i never had to worry if my phone gets wet or even dropped during rain, taking a shower with, or even go across the river with it while submersed in water. That security is what attracts me the most despite all the bells and whistles they have. Their sales can also be redirected to Sony shrinking the availability across the world, and the availability across the size of people's pockets as well. While Sony had their phones available across all the markets in different price groups, for different people 20 years ago, now they barely release a few phones and they are all in the top half or trying to compete on the top of the flagship space. This is one of the things i dont like. Another thing is, they seem to have adjusted their views to the Japanese life and companies, so every year there is a new phone, 2 years later the phone stops being sold, 3 years later they can't even repair it. Maybe luckily the resemblance of the Xperia 1's may have brought better repairability, however 5 years ago when i came to Japan i purchased XZ premium, 2 years later being unable to replace it they gave me Xperia 1 (the first model) as a replacement. Their warranty services offered by providers make the phones in Japan 20-40% more expensive than elsewhere in the world, despite being a Japanese company...... I do love my 1III though, it is still as snappy and seamless as the first day it arrived despite being over 2 and a half years old, but i don't like the bloated camera apps and functions, they really should have added an AIO camera app that does it all by few simple clicks. Also missing the compact phones, sad they didnt dig that and use it out of the Japanese minimalistic point of view...
Auto-nada. The screen, the headphone jack, the SD card slot, the dual SIM, the camera apps and audio recording, the shutter button, I love it all. I bought the 1V as a camera, not as a phone.
And this is an excellent camera at best is shooting RAW. I can leave my work gear at home when traveling and just carry this tiny pocket camera. It produces very stunning images. I whole heartedly disagree with the commenter in the video. He makes a lot of points for himself, and that's it. People aren't buying these phones because there's no exposure to them at all. For me, it's the perfect pocket camera with an SD card slot, and a headphone jack when I want some decent sounding music to listen to. When I want a decent video camera, I place the device in a cage and connect the mic to the headphone jack.
The main reason that why people aren't buying a sony phone is just Sony doesn't advertise their products very well. I've bought a Sony 5 V 2 months ago in Tokyo. I was in doubt if I should buy an iphone 15 but my choice was Sony. At first I thought Iphone 15 has a better shape but after some days of usage I realized Sony 5 V has easy to use shape (I can use it with one hand only, Iphone is wider and it is hard to hold and tap with one hand). But most important point is Sony 5 V has a great charge specs. In a normal usage (let's say 1 hour social media, 30 min gaming, 10-15 phone calls) phone is alive for 2 days and a half day. Usually at 3th day I charge it when I come home. But if I use more intense then it takes 2 days to get battery off. Only with charge feature Sony 5 V can be bought. Camera has a auto mode by the way. But in night shots Iphone is better, Sony needs adjustment for night shots. Processing speed is also good. I put an iphone 15 and Sony 5 V side by side and click on apps, yes iphone is mostly faster but it has very few advantage to Sony. So I don't regret.
In my country (Indonesia) there are 2 reasons, 1. Back then when the phones were available, the after sales service were so poor, almost all spare parts weren't available so they had to be brought from Japan and took so long. 2. Sony decided not to sell mobile product in our country due to our local law to have some percentage of local parts inside the phone, whether software or hardware.
1:15 the latest generation (xperia 1 V) have sadly removed the notification LED In general its the sales and marketing which determines how much or how little customers get the phone. The vast majority of people buying phones aren't really going to care about the UI aesthetics or how many years of software updates the phone will get. They just care about what's available in the stores they visit and generally what's available there is mostly iphone and perhaps 1-2 big android brands. I mean heck if the UI and software updates were such critical features for consumers, brands like poco and redmi would have flopped years ago. LG is the best example of a brand that actually made fairly good phones but totally botched their sales/marketing to the point where they exited the smartphone market after years of sales declined.
you are Very, Very wrong in thinking that most people buying a new phone don't care about the UI Aesthetics or the software support... The Vast majority of people place those 2 things very high on the wants list....Sony's lackluster UI and customization is one of the main reasons i am hesitant on getting the 1 mark V over the S23 Ultra...not to mention the possible bugs the sony phone might have
@@BETNCORT That depends on what "vast majority" means to you. The vast majority of people that you see online who actively participate in tech forums, or at least tech-literate enough to look up reviews and hardware/software comparisons? Yes, they would care about build quality, user experience, and long-term support. The vast majority of people *in the real world*? We're talking about people who may buy gadgets just because someone they like owns them (even if it's from an advert), people who don't care enough to research the options they have, and simply buy phones that look the best or are used/recommended by friends; and people who don't know what Android is, let alone which version of it they're using ("What do you mean it's not called Samsung!?"). Since you are under this video, you obviously belong to the first crowd, and so it makes sense you worry about Sony's support for the Xperia line. But no, "most people" will more likely just buy the phone they've seen most often in adverts, whatever recommended to them in stores, or even simply the cheapest. They might complain down the line... but the software becomes what they're used to, they'll simply put up with it lest they have to relearn how to navigate a new phone, especially since OEM ROMs may be look and function wildly different from each other. Hell, they might even opt out of major updates because they're scared of big UI changes, like the jump between A11 and A12! I do not think visibility is all Sony needed to boost sales, as even the most clueless will be immediately turned away by the price tags alone-but your view of the vast majority's tech literacy is overly optimistic if not a little misguided.
@@notit7282 i get what you are saying...and i am part of the fringe phone market....but there is too many negatives that Sony needs to step up on to really compete to be honest....i'm leaning towards an s24 ultra....unless sony makes the 1 mark 6 to be Very good
Sony designers 10/10, the design and form factor is just what I'm looking for. Sony marketing and sales 1/10, clueless. If they provided proper compatibility with US carriers and 3-4 years of updates...oh and a cable I'd buy one in a NY second.
They don't market their phones, they are available 5-6 months after launch, and they aren't available in carrier stores where most people get their phones from. I love Sony but they're not taking advantage of the opportunity afforded to them since superphone manufacturers like Huawei are officially banned in the US. Also they give their best sensors to other players like Apple, Samsung, etc.
XPERIA phones have better sensors than Apple, Samsung, etc. But Sony doesn't do software AI artificial photo processing, and that is why to our eye photos are better on Apple, Samsung, etc.
2 years of OS updates kinda kills these phones for me no matter how good they are and considering how much they be asking for i made the right decision in getting a S22 ultra instead
The only probs i have with my Xperia are overheating for no reason, no software update (stuck in Android 11), subtle lags, lack of accessories.. that's about it.. as a phone and a manual camera (which is why I bought it) it's really good.. the best camera I've used tbh.. i love shooting manual.. auto modes in almost every other phone has AI and HDR which ruins most photos and videos.. samsung has too much saturation, apple has too much yellowness, Google is contrasty, Xiaomi is basically an oil painting, OnePlus, oppo Vivo, nothing all the same just with a bit of boosted colors.. Sony is the closest to a dslr/mirrorless camera you can get as of now.
I was once a fan of Sony Ericsson and Sony phones (and even Ericsson, the older GSM/analog models). I loved the cameras so much as they produce natural-looking photos. However, in the later years, when they removed the name "Ericsson," I kept on having battery problems. It happened several times. I felt like l was not getting the value of paying premium devices as the batteries fail in just about a year. Sadly, I switched to a different brand then.
Guys...... It's just GOOGLE simplicity + SONY prosumerish abilities + JAPANESE preference for more ports and utilitarian features that died out in Android 9...(I'm here for it)
when there not readily available on US carriers what does sony expect and only can buy them out right. not many people have 1000 to spend upfront on a phone
Amazing DACs to power the 3.5? Not really. I saw an audiophile video and the test results were pretty bad. I wish they did something like LG used to do with their quad DAC setup.
I think 1IV is worth it just because of it's display. Watching videos on it is something different compared to Samsung or iPhone. Its one of those things you gotta see it to believe it. I wasn't expecting that honestly. I have S22 Ultra and I have 14 Pro Max and when watching Disney movie side by side Xperia 1 IV gives you the creamiest image out of the three. It doesn't oversaturate, it doesn't sharpen, it doesn't boost contrast into oblivion like Samsung does. When it comes to cameras I can say Photo Pro app is overloaded with unnecessary features that you will never adjust more than once or twice. Basically, you can play with ISO, shutter speed, metering and HDR and that's about it. Second, video recording on Video Pro is out of this world if you are familiar with Gain, shutter speed, framerates, white balance etc. CinemaPro on the other hand is kind of useless. Anyway it took me few hours to experiment with different settings in all three apps and I can say that now I have everything covered. I use BASIC mode for burst shooting in SDR and for 4k video recording in SDR with stabilization on. I use PhotoPro in P mode for taking regular photos by only fiddling with exposure and HDR. I use VideoPro app for filming high quality 4k 25fps HLG video with 1/50 shutter with no stabilization and all I do is adjust Gain and white balance before I shoot.
Looks like I'm in the wrong because I own a 1 mk iv and love it. Yea the update cycle is terrible but they've kept the features i value most like the headphone jack and expandable storage.
I don't get "software support" rants. Have you ever used a device on its last year of support ? Bugs, lags, all sort of weird behavior - and all that is supposed to help ? What's the point of having latest Android if you don't get latest features, and loose performance ? It's Android, it never mandates latest version to use apps. Yes, I get it - you want updates in general. For a current gen phone - of course, I get it. But for old devices - sometimes it's better to avoid updates at all !
I own a 1V and I wouldn't change it for any other phone in the world. I am sick and tired of people complaining about Xperia cameras eventho they are amazing even in auto mode or as they say basic mode and all you need to do is press the shutter button and will lunch to camera straight way quicker then any other smart phone and also everything is simple and straight forward not as reviewers say. Also for Pete's sake did you guys see how long is the latest iPhone name is and people still complain about the naming 😂
Yeah. I think it's just a trend to say that. There are videos that actually show photos it takes next to Samsung or Apple, and often times the Xperia looks better. Or they're so close to the same that it just relies on personal taste. Yet every general reviewer reports otherwise. I think they're just making stuff up to avoid having to do actual work -- "Everyone else says iPhone takes the best photos, so I'll just say this phone isn't as good at photos and people will believe me". The Xperia line has actual problems that are never even covered in these reviews. It's best to find forums or reviews by people who actually own the phone so you can set a realistic expectation rather than just "iphone and samsung better" that every reviewer gives.
Came from pixel 6 pro to Xperia pro-I. Couldn't be happier. In use, Xperia's rock. For me, I love photography and I love having a Sony camera in my pocket without the need to always take out a big camera with me. Also for me the user experience was way, way better than the buggy pixel 6 pro. The Pro-I is better in every way but it should be at almost twice the price!
It's very easy: Sony doesn't sell Xperias because they don't market them. I never see any commercials on the telly here in The Netherlands for Xperia, but I do see plenty of ads for Samsung, iPhone and Pixel. It's almost like Sony believes their phones will sell themselves, or that they just don't care enough about their smartphone division. I've been a long time Sony Xperia user, but it's a fact that Sony keeps lagging behind on the competition and it seems like they've been stuck in the past for a long time now. Sony is becoming the next LG.
What Sony should do instead : - Camera : Focus more on Auto shooting - Software : Make it support longer, work on the experience to make it more friendly
I tried the Xperia 1 IV last year and I had massive overheating issues during the first month after launch in the US. The camera shots I got from either basic or pro modes were hit or miss. My carrier didn’t formally support the phone so my voicemail experience got degraded to calling in pressing numbers to hear / manage my voicemails. I ended up having to settle in a variety of areas which made the whole experience feel like a downgrade. That said I would consider buying one again if some things improved.
Gotta wait for updates. Even my 1 v i got a couple days ago overheadrd in the camera app right out the box rven 1 update later fixed it and now on android 14, it runs even cooler. Only when charging it gets warm
They did major software updates and I barely have heating issues anymore unless I'm recording 4K 120FPS; however, the new I V is supposed to be leaps and bounds better than the I IV. I'm waiting for the I VI to see if I still want to stick with Sony or switch brands.
@@Usiraata i wouldn't do it if I were you. Cameras will be the same almost, apart from the tele module; speakers will be a bit better; screen will be brighter and have 120hz, but that's about it. It heats up randomly and during heavy gaming/tasks like Genshin Impact, or photo/video editing, and that would be fine really, but the heat is unbearable sometimes, and the throttle is quite noticeable. Plus, being a failed SoC as the 888 is, is also less battery efficient than the 865 used in your Mark II. So, long story short: if you weren't an Xperia user, or had a way older Xperia: yeah, sure, as long as you got prepared for some heat sometimes. But since you have a similar device, that is way more efficient and isn't really missing any crucial feature: don't buy the 1 III. I would decide to spend a little bit more on a 1 V if I were you, since that model is a giant leap regarding features (in almost every single one of them). I hope this answer was as useful as it was long lol. Cheers.
@@tiagomachado5360 extremely thankful for your comments, I would not be happy with a phone which is heating, hence I will take your advice and not switch over. Ill wait up for the 1V then.
3:46 It's funny to think that in order for a Sony camera-focused smartphone to sell, it requires a very specific set of circumstances on behalf of a potential buyer. 1. Person must have an interest in cameras, photography and/or videography 2. Person needs a new phone 3. Person either does not own any cameras, or needs a very specific kind of camera with a criteria that just so happens to match the featureset of an Xperia phone 4. Budget does not allow for separate camera and phone purchase. I just happen to be one of those potential buyers. Unfortunately, I can only get grey-market imports of their phones because Sony has since pulled out their Xperia from where I live.
Just ordered 1V and here for looking to justify my purchase lol. I like how the phones look, look forward to hopefully better ergonomics and miss the headphone jack and Android. Also while being overpriced at least they offer more actual features for the same price as some other competitors. Now if only Sony offered more software updates...
SONY is the only choice. Honestly, please list out what you need in a phone. 1. SD. 256GB iphone, for me, ran out of memory in three months. I was mad on backing up, because they don't let you put photos easily into PC Instead they give you another expensive way, icloud, a long term liability. Why Apple list price based on 128GB, 256GB, 512GB? Why people are paying huge amount on icloud? Because iphone never has SD slot!!!!! That means what? SD slot worth more than $500 US therefore, SD slot is a must. Samsung was good. I had a few of Samsungs Cutting the SD slot is clearly deal breaker I will never buy Samsung again unless they add back SD slot. 2. backdoor and fingerprint Today, I use phones to handle money, so the phone must be safe and convenience. I pay bills by fingerprint. Everybody put on a mask these years that made face ID useless. Accessing online banking, putting card information....requires a phone without backdoor. Sony, apart from Apple, is one of few brands that I can really trust. 3. a perfect flat screen. iphone notch/ island is still ugly after 6 years after iphone X was launched. Samsung curve screens never let you place a protector properly on it. Only Sony offer the flat perfect 4K screen for you. I filtered. Sony is the only phone. BTW, Ryan fail to give a real deal breaker not to buy Sony. "Nobody using Sony" just made my Sony xperia 1 unique. I am so happy with Sony.
I was a Sony believer during many years and still have a Sony Xperia Z5 compact and I love it, even if it has many drawbacks and is now having real problems due to its old age. The first thing that I did when I decided that I needed to upgrade was to look for the last sony phone models. However, I was really disappointed when I saw these new phones. My priorities with a phone are comfort and usability, and performance in a second place, comfort in my hand and in my pocket also, so I always look for compact phones, and Sony was great with that in the old times. I don't need the super cameras and super displays, if I want to see a film I will see it in my computer, in a bigger screen or I will go to the cinema, I don't use my phone for that. and I don't want to have a television screen in my pocket. Is a pity that they stopped doing compact phones, the nearest that I find in the market are the iphone 13 mini, but I'm not an ios fan, and the samsung 23, but I still don't like them as I liked the old compact Sony phones.
Xperia XZ1 compact was the last phone like this. sadly the phone you're looking for does not exist in todays market. The Xperia 5 is the closest thing to what you're looking for. I've made that switch, but it's still a little too big. The Xperia 5 IV is 1mm smaller than MkIII or Mk5. But they're difficult to find. I've been looking for one allday since my 5 III might be dead.
I still use my Sony Xperia Z5 (2015) as the only phone I've got. Works flawlessly, the battery lasts up to two full days with moderate usage, and the camera is pretty good. The only problem is it got run over by time and modern apps that are probably optimized differently and are dropping support for Android 6.1. I'm considering buying Xperia 5 V now.
Same I was thinking of buying one but for me that is way too short as I usually keep a phone for 4-5 years. I know Samsung does 5 years security updates now. I guess though Motorola, HTC don't have long security updates too which is disappointing for me.
I don't think the lack of a Sony-specific software skin is the problem-my old Pixel running Android 11 still offers a great experience! I think, as you said, the biggest issue is the lack of good point-and-shoot software for their cameras that make the (genuinely excellent) hardware seem lackluster to people who aren't professional photographers.
Had Xperia 1 Mark 3. Good phone until it broke after 3 months and Sony did nothing to fix it. Worst costumer support i ever had.. And oh! 2 years softare support for 1400$...
Had some Sony Xperia in the past. But they are priced very high and I am not a big fan of the 21:9 display format. Just bought a Motorola Edge 40 Neo. Good pricing and got the features I want. I think the japanese managment who run the Xperia division dont realy understand the consumer market anymore.
The only thing they got wrong is pricing. The Edge 40 Neo is just every other smart phone out there. Seriously, all phones are basically the same these days, you might as well have a Samsung, there's little to no difference. At least Xperia keeps unique features like SD, Audio jack, no notch, a good form factor/aspect ratio, and very little bloat. If they swapped to the 'consumer market', they'd go out of business because there's no reason to be buying any android phone other than Samsung or Pixel. I'm not even sure why you decided to get a Motorola Edge. If Samsung or Apple went with a 21:9 display, everyone would be raving about it and it would become the new standard for all phones.
I'm still using the XPERIA XZ1 for about 7 years now. It is still working and I really love how quality and long lasting sony phones are. I'm looking for a new phone to upgrade but goddamn, sony phones are expensive. I am torn between the 5V or Samsung S23+. The latter is cheaper and have similar specs, but I used a samsung (note 2) before my sony and it is full of bloatwares. Is it still the same for current samsung phones?
My XZ2 Compact is the most comfortable phone to hold. I still have it, but the battery needs replacing. I love that it is supported by LineageOS so it is still getting updates 6 years later.
I love the way you narrate. That, combined with your leisurely pace and soft sound track, make your reviews so vibe and relaxing to watch. It's informative, educational, and feels authentic and unhurried. I feel like I have room to enjoy a drink slowly while watching, and don't have the fast paced urgency or anxiety with faster paced videos. I just love the format. Never let anyone tell you that you need to change. Everybody else is doing the same thing. You do you.
Back on the 5 ii after 18 months on a company provided iPhone. Camera is not as consistent especially with foliage and high contrasta scenarios. Also the fingerprint sensor stops working after a while and a reboot is required (very common issues with the later xperia phones). It is very hard to for them to compete because the sales are too low to have the budget for r&d or great hardware. The economy of scale plays a huge role here.
All my life I have been using Sony. Infact , my last Sony was stolen in August 2022. I was forced to buy Nokia (it's a stupid phone it doesn't hv any of Sony's features) if only Sony companies will bring it to Nigeria, I'll do anything to have Sony seriously. Bcos it will always be the best phone ever.
I think another reason is, there is no subliminal hard sale in the form of youtube and hardly any advertising. Most typical people don't care about the PASM settings snd what they do. The sensor technology in these alone are worth the extra money along with coated lenses preventing fringing. I owned 3 lg phones which were great besides the G6. The V range were always out my range of affordability and now they are obselete besides third-party hong kong markets. My hope is that they update their pro-i with a better implementation. Again that will be too expensive for general users. Although creators having 2 1-inch sensors at their disposals means they have a great compact solution in their pocket. Nothing Apple has ever produced has made me want to devote my resources to them. With Android you can swap brand and UI without too many incinveniences.
Sony Xperia 1 has most of the features that I would like a in a smartphone except with 1 IV had an overheating issue due to 8 Gen 1, then 1 V removed the notification LED knowing Android 14 would come out with a flashing notification. Wishlist. 3 years Android OS Updates, 4 years of security patches to that of Google/Samsung/Nothing Proper 5G Bands included Option to change the Screen Resolution from 4k to 1440 or even 1080 LTPO Display Start selling to Cell Phone providers so they can increase their market share. Release the phone much earlier (this year alone was an improvement) Keep everything that was in Xperia V and put it in Xperia 1 VI w/ Notification LED Give U.S more options than just 256gb SKU
I've had a Xperia XA1 dual since 2018 that I got new for $250 and it's still going strong and I love it ! Has 23mp front camera . Eventually i'll be looking for a phone with 5G
I agree, I've had mostly Sony xperia phones and the cameras aren't suitable for the purpose, which is point and shoot. In manual mode they can take good photos but phones need to take good photos quickly and automatically, there's no time for posing when you're out and about or have kids.
Watched this on my Xperia 5 III. I got it because I wanted a headphone jack and a phone narrow enough to use with one hand, in addition to avoiding overprocessesed pics and learning photography controls more. I agree that the software support is bad for the price. My next phone may be a non-Sony because they stopped selling the Xperia 5 in the US, and the 1 is too large and has worse battery life than the 5. If they continued a US version, my next phone probably would have been an Xperia 5 VI.
I had that same phone and it was great (with a case, it was too slippery otherwise). Unfortunately, I dropped it and it stopped getting cell signal :( premium phones are too heavy and break themselves with their weight. Didn't even crack the screen or the back which is crazy.
Update: The I VI isn't sold in the US either. It may work, but with some missing bands and some headaches that aren't worth it to me. I've moved on to the Asus Zenfone 10. Only had it a few months but so far it has way fewer headaches than my Sony did, which had to be sent into warranty repair twice and non-warranty repair once for a failed screen and fingerprint sensor. Between my bad hardware experiences and the fact that Sony is no longer offering US variants, I've moved on. The Zenfone's photos are horribly overprocessed, but still okay for snapshots. Otherwise, so far, so good.
I probably wouldn't buy one due to the fact you're stuck with a 21:9 aspect ratio and a fragile fingerprint reader but I'd probably buy one because despite that it's still gonna be better than anything else
So..this means..buy xperia 1 phones! Watching this from 1 mark ii after 3 yrs and the phone is flawless! Camera's outstanding till now to take specific shots that no ordinary user can if u know your way with the settings. Shooting the moon for example. Would love to buy the v but seriously dont need to.
Sony makes phones that I would buy because they do not look like they are made for children like sparkly tinted Samsung or Chinese phones, looks are great, they are aluminium with edgegs, sharp, great. I would buy Sony phone if they made them in proper size so you can watch TH-cam full screen and read full lines of text. I would buy Sony phone if they got 10€ or better behind 3.5mm jack, I would buy Sony phone because it got SDcard slot... but... 10€ dac in any Samsung USB-port will sound better then any Sony 3.5mm socket, I get MicroSD-car to Samsung phone and I see full size webpage with Samsung phone, I see full size youtube video with Samsung, but I hate how large Samsung phones are, they do not fit in to your pocket and Sony is too long. I have 65" Sony OLED tv, Sony AV-reciever, Sony 4K player, why would I ever want to watch movie with phone? Loose that aspect ratio, it is stupid. I will buy Samsung A54 and I hate how heavy thick and large it is, I hate it's rounded chassi and plastic, but S-serries do not have SD-card slot and both of them look like they are for chieldren.
Their software sucks big time. Even the camera is not good in real life usage. They are good only on paper… their camera is pathetic compared to phones of that price.
I caught a used xperia 5m3 for 120 EUR and it is a big candidate to replace my redmi note 10 pro. Especially for that price. My wanted specs: - lighter -> 168g - telelens - more RAM (usefull for my postprocessing in Termux) Now I am testing the phone and change the original Image to lineageOS. And try to adopt all my Apps to the Sony. Some things are not so good in the first View: Shared SD/SIM Slot ;( The photo button is nice but a pure touch button would have been better. The form factor is not ideal for people who write a lot. The Xiaomi was already narrower than my old phone but the Sony is a lot narrower again. If you spend 2 hours on it editing a blog, it will wear on your fingers. ;) Even if it doesn't end up being my Camino AIO Phone, it's currently the best everyday camera I have with me.
Let's start with price tag and what the buyer is getting for the $1200? 1. Only 2 major OS updates onto 2 years window. 2. SoC throttles because of missing adequate cooling chamber. 3. There's literally no way to find repair spare parts, especially batteries. 4. Finger scanner is dead after software support is done, from my experience I felt that. 5. Because you are Japanese doesn't mean all products you produce are high quality.
At the moment I am thinking about replacing my almost 6-year-old Huawei P20 (I used it for 5 years) with Sony Xperia 5 V, so I found this video. Well, it seems to me that Sony has very poor post-sales support. In first place I want to point at software updates. Hey, they committed themselves for a two-year software updates and three years of security patches. The model is already on market for few months so that means it's not a really two years now. And the phone is quite pricey to expect so short period of support. On other hand, before Huawei, I used to own some Xperia phones, I was fan of their products and my Sony Z3 Compact Tablet is still working like the first day. Although it runs on Android 6.0 :) But for sure, it gives an obsolete feeling when used. I see similar UI design on Xperia 5 V in this video, ah! Another thing, I can't buy it in my country! So, I need to order it online from some UK or US shops. So, I am not sure. The camera performance is important to me as well as software support. Maybe, for that price, the better solution would be Huawei, Pixel or Samsung?
I bought a Sony 5 iv yesterday for 600€. I bought it because of the features for the price, but I wouldn't buy it if I didn't have plans for rooting my phone at some point, when the updates stop. An older phone with this little support isn't worth buying if you don't plan on doing that
I used a Samsung not long ago. The UI hasn't changed from the original One UI, settings aren't organized the way I naturally think it should, etc. And I spent a year and a half with a 13 Pro. I tried to like this phone so much, but couldn't. The UI felt boring after a few months (updates didn't improve anything, not that I hoped it to), it's unorganized, and the picture quality was so bad that I took less and less pictures than ever before. Then came the 1 V. And I've never thought a phone could be this good. I have an APS C camera as I like to take pictures. Now I can do the same, with my phone. And even better, its video capabilities are so good that I now use it as my main video tool. Battery life is great and just got better with A14, audio is simply the best you can get on a smartphone, and everything just works. To be fair, the 1 IV was not the best of the range (I was looking for one but decided to wait for the Mk V because of the 8 Gen 1). And Sony said that 1 V sales are good, that should mean something.
I am a Xperia 1 II user, I also have every generation of Samsung from S10 Plus onwards. The selfie on Xperia 1 II is very bad, the IV is better and considering buying that one. I like the light weight, the fast UI and video stabilization. My only real complaints are the front camera, the screen could be a tiny bit bigger maybe, the price is also too high
I forgot to add, as someone else's commet just reminded me, I heard that the next top of the range Sony smartphone is not going to be called a phone, but a camera with a phone app ! Quite right, a phone is now a phone, but the photo & videos keep getting better & better. How many people have a small pocket sized camera any more, very few.
You have no clue dawg, the phone doesn't support AT&T which is a huge deal in the USA. Also has a bunch if random issues that no one has seen on another phone like notifications not lighting up screen and yes I know there's like 10 different settings to check it just didn't work and I couldn't use my Sim card so they're basically useless as a phone ... Talk to people who used them instead of assuming
I got a brand new 1 mk iv for 54000 yen, or about 370 usd. I originally bought this phone because of the headphone jack, notification LED, SD card slot, etc, but I found myself really loving the camera. I have an iPhone 12 which I still ocationally use for quick photos, and I wish that Sony would include a basic auto camera more like what's on the iPhone, but when I have the time I like to play around with the camera settings which just gives me phenomenal results. This is fine by me because I rarely take a photo of myself or people in general, mainly landscapes. The software update situation is a bummer, but hey I got this phone for less than 400 bucks so I can't complain.
because not many people know the quality of the Xperia phone with camera shutter, SD card and iconic LED notification. one more thing, there are too many Sony applications regarding cameras, I think the best option is to combine their camera applications both photo and video into one.
How about software updates? How long will sony support them? You probably right . Sony has always been struggling with their software support & intergrating their hardware & software Kind of suprise that sony did not improve their software experience
I used to love sony xperia for the no-fuss stark utilitatian UI but like you say, UX things have moved on. I'll always remember though, the Jony phone was a meme with senior Apple folk for a reason
The main dealbreaker for me is the tall format. If I use the phone with one hand (which I prefer) I just can't hold it and also reach the top part of the screen (and many apps put important features there, so you HAVE to be able to reach it). In one video, I even saw someone holding the phone and they had to change their grip on the phone quite a bit just to be able to reach the top part of the screen. The width is okay, even great, but the tallness...I really would prefer a more normal format. Also, I think the Xperia 1 and 5 are too expensive, so I would want the Xperia 10 instead, but that one uses a middle class CPU with very laggy performance. So since I don't want a tall phone that also lags even in the regular menus, I skip on buying Sony phones, which is sad since I have generally liked their performance and design in the past, but that was when they had true compact phones. For a long while, Sony had a really good standing with people that looked for compact phones, but after a while Sony gave up the compact phone focus and those who wanted smaller phones were quite disappointed in that. I still hope the Xperia 10 VI (6) could offer something more. I could maybe consider buying it if it had a better CPU and no lag. And if they shrink the format and give up that super-tall, super-thin screen, then yes...I will almost positively buy the Xperia 10 VI. I'll hold out a bit longer, but I'll soon have to buy a new phone, due to 3G being taken out of the coverage equation and 5G entering the scene, but my current phone doesn't support 5G and the battery on my current phone also isn't that great, so...I just have to get a new phone, and soon. And Galaxy S24 just wasn't what I wanted, for several reasons.
I've had Sony phones for a long ass time. XZS, XZ1 Compact, XZ2 Compact, Xperia 5, Xperia 5 III. I buy it for the compact size, front facing speakers, headphone jack, 1080P screen and no holes or notch bullshit. Tho they've gotten bigger and bigger, I feel like Sony's design still have the most amount of common sense, which is really hard to find these days. (except for XZ2 Compact, that thing was trash) I used a HTC One before Sony, since they were the first one to have front facing speakers. Common sense: 1.There's absolutely no need for a phone to have more than 1080P display, it's plenty sharp. My computer screen was 1080P not so long ago. VR cardboard is an edge case, and the only justifiable usage. 2. Don't do something stupid with the screen either, hole punch, notch and screen that rolls over the edge. I'm not saying screen to body ratio is none sense, but those ideas are just dumb, it causes soo much headache for a percentage or two. we already have plenty thin bezels. 3. Front facing speakers, how the fk does any phone not have them? it faces the front because you will be in front of the phone. 2 Speakers because people have 2 ears. They're also symmetrical so the design will be great, you can also utilize the top speaker for calling, lower speaker hole to put the mic inside. 4. Headphone jack?? Do I have to explain this? 5. Screen size. I know that size of the phone is up to personal preference. But at the moment, there are no other compact options out there. I personally like a phone where I could reach everything on the touch screen with just one hand. But sadly even Sony is moving away from that. The newer Xperia 5 are too big. Despite all their flaws, I will keep buying them. They are the closest thing to perfection, even tho they've decided to move away from it every generation. Now for the flaws: 1.They tried to take away the headphone jack with XZ2 Compact, I got rid of that phone immediately. 2.Since the new naming scheme, Xperia1,5,10. They've set up the finger print sensor to trigger on touch, instead of triggering when I actually press the power button. It's always unlock the screen when I didnt intend to, or when I take out of the pocket it registered too many failed unclocks and I have to use the PIN. This almost made me switch to another phone. But after shopping around, a better choice does not exist, not even close. 3. Sony still won't allow people to swap the back and menu button. This is in stock Android FFS!!! They removed it just to annoy people. The perfect phone was XZ1 Compact, nothing has ever come anywhere close. I'll keep buying Sony phones and huffing copium hoping they'll make another XZ1 Compact with modern hardware.
i have a sony xperia 5ii. i love it although its deffinitly not perfect (but which phone is perfect?). i will be rocking this thing for at least another year and then ill probably buy a 5 or 1 again. i do see sony make good steps also but yes indeed conviniance should be better. one thing i hate is that it cant just make single shots with the physical shutter button when i have the burst mode enabled. pls sony just make 1 sec delay in this. and also i hate it that i cant make videos with all lenses at ones. like making a video and then swithcing to selfie video in 1 video. would be just amazing. for the rest sony is amazing. the 21:9 screen is amazing. the splitscreen is amazing. battery life is amazing.
I use an Xperia 1V. I am definitely a person. That's singular of people. I've been taking photos for pleasure since 1962. I own the Xperia for Photography Pro, the camera-like interface, and the shutter button.
They're reliability is crap and the after market is limited availability and extremely over priced! On, and the problems you spend half the price of the phone fixing just come back again!
Exactly. And Sony can't update their phones for shit when Google, Samsung, and Apple are updating loads of phones constantly, with very long commitments to continue doing so. As someone who has had Xperias, including the Xperia 1 III, f*** Sony.
My Xperia Experience is that the camera is not very good, 1. Exposure measurement depending on focus type, wide, spit etc same for all, which is wrong, I pointed this out on the A6500 and sony fixed that, not on the Xperia as of yet. 2. Bit Depth in accurate, highlights and lows do not render even on HDR mode, try editing pushing or pulling just 5 stops and you will see clealy data loss, if you know your stuff you will know what I am talking about, you shouls have at least 7 stops for bit depth. 3. Custom file header, makes it hard to accurately colour profile, as it changes on every shot, again pros always set colour on site with grey or colour card & this device cannot give accurate colours, it relies on AI rendering, to test use device with zero connect to inet, Bluetooth or wifi & you will see how bad it really is. Trust this helps
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Apologies, guys. Title was a typo 😅
Don't worry, great video though Ryan😄
They’re too skinny. I wanted one because it’s the only phone that is 4K. But it’s too skinny.
The reason why they don't sell is that their phones are simply not available at retail stores and operators, only at Sony shops where a lot less people walk in...
Your statement more straight to the point than this video
BestBuy has deals with the vendors, and will receive kickback revenue on specific brands. Typically whichever section of the store is dominated by one brand it seems, that's the brand the store is encouraged to sell the most of. So yes...the Samsung phones get almost ALL the glory because it's all tied to the money.
Source: I worked at my local BBY for 3 years and we were told firsthand to give preferrential treatment to Samsung, even if the customer wanted a different TV model if possible. @@Worthless.
amazon?? xd
Sony phones use to be at retail stores. They just didn't sell well so Sony probably stopped paying stores to stock them or stored didn't order them to stock in their stores. If you want a certain phone people are able to order it from where ever they are located.
Not in Europe, they're available at many shops where I live.
"When was the last time you saw someone using a Sony phone?"
Me watching on a Sony phone: 😭😭😭😭
Me on a 1 III lmao
well its kinda true though innit? its always the samsung or iphone, maybe an odd pixel but i'd rather have a phone that is not popular, have something different xperia 1 OG
Me on a 5 III lmao
You and 2 people 😂
@@ThousandBlade how's the 5 iii, I heard It's one of the best modern xperias out there?
And if they actually have to make their exposure big, they will start removing useful things like headphone jack, microSD slot and things like that. If Sony starts removing useful things to win people's hearts, it will be the final nail in the coffin.
not exactly, it's going the LG path kinda even tho LG auto mode is wonderful for it's age V60 from 2020 but they fucked up the marketing so bad that no one was getting them besides LG lovers like I'm.
I would love to get an Xperia for me personally but the lack of software support like he mentioned is a killer I can't justify spinning big money for a phone with that kinda support I would rather get myself a Samsung flagship and get an external media player
In my opinion doing that does the exact opposite of winning people over. That move made business sense for Apple because they already have the most loyal customer base of any tech brand ever. You could maybe argue that also applied to Samsung (though even their flagships are getting destroyed by the iPhone in sales, with there now being effectively very little that gives their S phones the edge over the iPhone).
For other brands I think it would be way more beneficial to actually offer more features in order to actually pull people away from Samsung and Apple.
Yeah, Xperia 10 V does not have a notification LED anymore. I'm sad. Otherwise, it's a good midranger, if you can find it for under 300 USD / EUR. Not worth paying more, really.
@@walid6329 Fair point but the same could easily be said about Samsung. I can't justify spending $1000 on a phone which has a black hole on the screen, no expandable storage (especially considering the lowest storage option is 128 GB, with a 200 MP camera which takes gigantic pictures which use a lot of space), a weird aspect ratio and no headphone jack
That's not true, there's no part of 'appealing to a large audience' that requires the removal of the headphone jack and sd card. You make it sound like that's something consumers ask for and that's not the case. Those are blatantly anti consumer practices that do not benefit the user in anyway. The goal was to make more money and when apple showed it's possible and how much money you can really make the entire industry followed suit. Just like removing the charger claiming everyone already has a charger when almost no one has the special charger the new device requries.
These phones don't sell in the US because Sony doesn't try to sell them here. You can't find them in the carrier stores, and they rarely advertise.
it pisses me off that carriers are the gatekeepers for what phones are allowed to flourish in the USA.
Samsung and Apple are great, but there are so many other great phones out there too. But we can't actually allow global competition, only domestic companies and close allies get to sell phones here.
People still believe the Huawei backdoor myths despite there being no evidence in their phones. Do you think its a coincidence they were banned the same year Huawei was overtaking Apple in market share?
I'm in the US, and I have 23+ Sony phones in my collection
Where I live (Chile), Sony doesn't even ship them to anywhere in the continent I think. While I think they would obviously benefit from more aggressive marketing, no marketing (or lack of) changes the fact these phones look stellar, at least to me. I am really looking forward to the phone's price dropping a bit more so I can buy the 1 V
@@SonyEnthusiastSony hasn't sold phones, in the US since they were Sony Erickson. It's just iPhones, Samsung and Motorola. Well Google Pixel also. They can't compete against iPhones.
@@CarlosGarcia-zt3mr are you in the US? Best Buy has sold Sony phones in store up until the Xperia 1 as seen here: th-cam.com/video/DhY-bce3570/w-d-xo.htmlsi=vcrQ-ZcrE6W2xFR-
They sell Sony phones online too
Whats funny is I have used most of the foldables, the iphone 15 pro max,the Onplus open,s23 Ultra ect. I keep coming back to the Xperia 1v! I love this phone. It has everything I need. and the size is perfect.
When i bought s24u i regret not buying xperia 1 v instead
S24u way better you made the right choice@@The_Geek_World
When I wanted to buy my Sony Xperia 1 V I compared it with iPhone 14 Pro Max and Samsung S23 Ultra and Sony was better in every aspect. I understand differences in taste, but believe me, THERE ARE people who prefer Sony phones. The only problem with Sony is that they have fallen behind in marketing.
I have had all the latest Xperia and I'd have a lot to say. The Xperia 1 V is spectacular in every way. I agree with the problem of short update support but this phone takes wonderful photos in auto mode, but it gives the best in manual mode. Xperia 1 IV had overheating problems, it's true, but after 2 patches the problem was completely fixed. I would add that with the Xperia 1 V I get 10 hours of screen use, but not at 120hz. I should give it a try. Sony batteries are formidable because after several years they still last a very long time. They have excellent long-term durability. Photos at night now look beautiful, and the audio from videos I record at concerts or in noisy places is incredibly clear. I conclude by saying that the audio jack, the SD card support, the dual-level shutter button, no punch holes are something that I hope they keep in their phones. And speed and responsiveness, god, it's something you have to try! I hope they improve the marketing and extend the years of support!
yeah my tipo still turns on xD
The software and UI needs to be drastically improved. It's 2024 and the software has 2018 feels
yes sadly@@iTROLLxTHExTROLLZ
So true about the battery life. I recently went back to my old XZ1 Compact due to wanting to try a game with a new account without having to switch accounts on my Galaxy S10e. Now, the Compact is SIX years old now (give or take, depending on how you calculate it), and I bought it new and used it for 3-4 years, after which I had to buy a new phone because I had dropped the Compact too many times and things were giving away and didn't feel stable anymore. So it has spent about 2 years in my drawer, without really being charged as often as it should have been, but to my surprise, the battery was still alive and well after so much time AND had charge to spare, even though not being charged for MANY months! What's more, upon charging it fully, the battery hasn't really given up at all, it keeps the charge very nicely (but I'm only using the phone with wi-fi now, and playing one game which is very battery friendly) but still...it's a phone from 2017, that has been used for 4 years and then lay in a box for 2 years...and still alive and kicking, and kicking quite good actually! It's even speedier and more responsive than my current phone, which is 4 years old! To me, that is simply amazing. But the old compacts aren't being made anymore and the new compacts aren't really compact, nor do they have good performance (looking at you, Xperia 10). But the battery life...oh wow.
Absolutely. These phones are everything a smart phone should be. The battery life is inspiring.
The absence of LG in the market is noticeable; in my view, their final releases (Velvet and Wing) were impressive. I would easily use them, but there was a lack of a cohesive mobile ecosystem and software refinement/updates. Sony seems to sacrifice sales to do things their own way, but when their home country prefers iPhones over Xperias, something really needs to be seriously reconsidered.
I have the LG V60...but I got the S22 Ultra back in March 2022...On February 2023 I decided to move back to my old LG v60 for a few reasons...
1. The LG V60 still has better battery life, I get consistent 8-9 hours screen on time. Compared to the s22 Ultra that gives me 5-6 hours, and thats on FHD+ and 60hz setting.
2. I still prefer photos taken on the V60. The S22 Ultra have to much saturation in colors and dont have Ultra Wide Correction. Also shutter lag on the S22 Ultra is anoying and its an expensive phone to have that problem.
3. The V60 still has more powerful speakers compared to the weaker s22 Ultra.
4. I got a 1TB Sandisk Ultra Pro SD card for cheap that I put in my V60.
But using the s22 Ultra for about 11 months then jumping back to the V60, I actually like the more natural colors on the V60. And going down from 1440p screen to a 1080p screen isn't really noticeable to me.
But now Im back to Sony's camp as of November 2023 , owning previous Z5 Premium and XZ Premium as well...I am a happy owners of an Xperia 1 V 😊
I don't agree with that last part, since as far as I know, Sony's not trying to be mainstream or the #1 phone company in sales. Apple manufactures way more phones than Sony do, it's only natural that way more people will have them, not to mention Apple is way more aggressive with their marketing and mass-appeal pretty much everywhere. Most people don't buy Apple phones for their specs; they buy them because they're Apple
@@AnythingGoesJoJoI about cried when I had to give up on my V60 last week. A true monster phone. I would purchase have another but no security updates.
Got a Pixel 8 Pro but would have bought a Sony if they weren't overpriced by about 300 dollars.
Not all phones under the sun needs to be built for the same people with the same aesthetics same apps and same features. I hate when reviewers take a phone, realize it's not a Samsung or an iPhone and immediately come to the conclusion that everyone should get an iPhone instead or maybe a Samsung if you are old, because the cameras, and phones are actually just cameras with a texting feature attached. I'm sure you've all been very successful in college and learned a ton of stuff to do videos on the internet, but imagine someone wants a phone with flagship SoC and does not take photos at all or once in a blue moon. I feel reviewers are extremely biased, and manufacturers found a great loophole to become user-hostile in the name of "progress" based on their biased feedback, and the average user is left without a choice.
I currently use an LG V60, old phone, yet to this day there is not a single device that has all the features I use on a daily basis on my V60, hence there is no replacement for me. I use the desktop mode every day. Great, Samsung has that, but I also use software that only runs on Snapdragon, and Samsung is selling only it's Exynos garbage over in the EU and has the gall to sell it more expensive too. So, I could go with Motorola, but their flagship lacks expandable storage, which would be fine if they were to sell 512 GB or 1 TB models, but they don't. Also the headphone jack. Sure, I could embrace the dongle life, but frankly I lived the dongle life back in the Nokia days, and miss me with that sh1t! It's not even about listening music on the go, I can use a pair of wireless beans if there are no alternatives, but a lot of times I need to test some sound equipment and I need something to play music from, do you really want me to carry around a decades old iPod? Phones peaked around a decade ago, currently all you can buy is trash.
Pretty well said, especially the "and phones are actually just cameras with a texting feature attached" part. The person in the video brought up Sony professional cameras and music players, but do the professional cameras have a 4K 120hz display with Snapdragon 8 Gen 2? Can the music player take flagship-grade pictures? Of course not. The idea of a phone is having a wide variety of features in one place. Phones are like a jack of all trades but master of none; not a single smartphone in the entire planet can take the best pictures in the world, or have the best display in the world, or the strongest performance in the world, or the best audio in the world, so I think it's a strange argument to bring up that "if the average point-and-shoot customer won't use Sony phone, and pro camera photographer uses pro camera instead of phone for pictures, who is this phone for?" completely missing that a phone is a phone, not a professional camera nor professional audio player
It's not trash babaloo of course
its not that its just "super niche" its that a lot of parts of it are objectively bad. the auto camera mode is objectively bad, the software support is objectively bad, the software itself is bad, it doesnt have adaptive refresh rate so the battery efficiency is bad, it has overheating problems and the fingerprint sensor is known to fail in many units.
if it just had extra enthusiast features there wouldnt be a problem, the problem is all those special features come at a compromise. reviewers dont just hate sony, there are legit criticisms being made and from what i can see, sony doesnt really care to improve these things.
@@moon-pw1bi I like how you gave a much more concise and fair review of the phone than this long video did. Just don't forget the positives: form factor, no notch, SD card slot, dual SIM, extra camera button, and headphone jack.
All of that what you mention in your comment has change the Xperia 1VI has proven that which i have . Their is a new aspect ratio 19.5.9 the camera has been updatet now you only one camera app . And the batterylife is isanly good in this phone the 4 k screen is gone 120 herz refresh rate can go down to 1 herz their is alot of changes in the Xperia 1VI it is a totaly diffrent phone . And also the software support is now longer 3 year of OS updates and 4 years of security updates all of that together is a step in the rigth direction . I think Sony has now understood that they now can sell their phones to a wider audience .@@moon-pw1bi
I am still using Sony XZ2 which I bought in 2018. I remember in December 2022 while at Canada Wonderland at -10 C, I could still take pictures and videos. Battery performance wasn't affected while my husband's samsung drained rapidly 😂.
Similar story here XZ2 compact. Only upgrading to get a newer camera and new Android.
I am using a Sony (previously Sony Ericsson) phone for about 20+ years, my last one Xperia 1 III purchased a week after they came out in Japan a bit over 2 and a half years ago. I like the phones because yes they have always had to have everything available software and hardware, they are durable and since ages ago i never had to worry if my phone gets wet or even dropped during rain, taking a shower with, or even go across the river with it while submersed in water. That security is what attracts me the most despite all the bells and whistles they have.
Their sales can also be redirected to Sony shrinking the availability across the world, and the availability across the size of people's pockets as well. While Sony had their phones available across all the markets in different price groups, for different people 20 years ago, now they barely release a few phones and they are all in the top half or trying to compete on the top of the flagship space. This is one of the things i dont like. Another thing is, they seem to have adjusted their views to the Japanese life and companies, so every year there is a new phone, 2 years later the phone stops being sold, 3 years later they can't even repair it. Maybe luckily the resemblance of the Xperia 1's may have brought better repairability, however 5 years ago when i came to Japan i purchased XZ premium, 2 years later being unable to replace it they gave me Xperia 1 (the first model) as a replacement. Their warranty services offered by providers make the phones in Japan 20-40% more expensive than elsewhere in the world, despite being a Japanese company......
I do love my 1III though, it is still as snappy and seamless as the first day it arrived despite being over 2 and a half years old, but i don't like the bloated camera apps and functions, they really should have added an AIO camera app that does it all by few simple clicks. Also missing the compact phones, sad they didnt dig that and use it out of the Japanese minimalistic point of view...
Auto-nada. The screen, the headphone jack, the SD card slot, the dual SIM, the camera apps and audio recording, the shutter button, I love it all. I bought the 1V as a camera, not as a phone.
And this is an excellent camera at best is shooting RAW. I can leave my work gear at home when traveling and just carry this tiny pocket camera. It produces very stunning images. I whole heartedly disagree with the commenter in the video. He makes a lot of points for himself, and that's it. People aren't buying these phones because there's no exposure to them at all. For me, it's the perfect pocket camera with an SD card slot, and a headphone jack when I want some decent sounding music to listen to. When I want a decent video camera, I place the device in a cage and connect the mic to the headphone jack.
The main reason that why people aren't buying a sony phone is just Sony doesn't advertise their products very well. I've bought a Sony 5 V 2 months ago in Tokyo. I was in doubt if I should buy an iphone 15 but my choice was Sony. At first I thought Iphone 15 has a better shape but after some days of usage I realized Sony 5 V has easy to use shape (I can use it with one hand only, Iphone is wider and it is hard to hold and tap with one hand). But most important point is Sony 5 V has a great charge specs. In a normal usage (let's say 1 hour social media, 30 min gaming, 10-15 phone calls) phone is alive for 2 days and a half day. Usually at 3th day I charge it when I come home. But if I use more intense then it takes 2 days to get battery off. Only with charge feature Sony 5 V can be bought. Camera has a auto mode by the way. But in night shots Iphone is better, Sony needs adjustment for night shots. Processing speed is also good. I put an iphone 15 and Sony 5 V side by side and click on apps, yes iphone is mostly faster but it has very few advantage to Sony. So I don't regret.
In my country (Indonesia) there are 2 reasons,
1.
Back then when the phones were available, the after sales service were so poor, almost all spare parts weren't available so they had to be brought from Japan and took so long.
2.
Sony decided not to sell mobile product in our country due to our local law to have some percentage of local parts inside the phone, whether software or hardware.
1:15 the latest generation (xperia 1 V) have sadly removed the notification LED
In general its the sales and marketing which determines how much or how little customers get the phone. The vast majority of people buying phones aren't really going to care about the UI aesthetics or how many years of software updates the phone will get. They just care about what's available in the stores they visit and generally what's available there is mostly iphone and perhaps 1-2 big android brands. I mean heck if the UI and software updates were such critical features for consumers, brands like poco and redmi would have flopped years ago.
LG is the best example of a brand that actually made fairly good phones but totally botched their sales/marketing to the point where they exited the smartphone market after years of sales declined.
you are Very, Very wrong in thinking that most people buying a new phone don't care about the UI Aesthetics or the software support... The Vast majority of people place those 2 things very high on the wants list....Sony's lackluster UI and customization is one of the main reasons i am hesitant on getting the 1 mark V over the S23 Ultra...not to mention the possible bugs the sony phone might have
@@BETNCORT That depends on what "vast majority" means to you.
The vast majority of people that you see online who actively participate in tech forums, or at least tech-literate enough to look up reviews and hardware/software comparisons? Yes, they would care about build quality, user experience, and long-term support.
The vast majority of people *in the real world*? We're talking about people who may buy gadgets just because someone they like owns them (even if it's from an advert), people who don't care enough to research the options they have, and simply buy phones that look the best or are used/recommended by friends; and people who don't know what Android is, let alone which version of it they're using ("What do you mean it's not called Samsung!?").
Since you are under this video, you obviously belong to the first crowd, and so it makes sense you worry about Sony's support for the Xperia line. But no, "most people" will more likely just buy the phone they've seen most often in adverts, whatever recommended to them in stores, or even simply the cheapest. They might complain down the line... but the software becomes what they're used to, they'll simply put up with it lest they have to relearn how to navigate a new phone, especially since OEM ROMs may be look and function wildly different from each other. Hell, they might even opt out of major updates because they're scared of big UI changes, like the jump between A11 and A12!
I do not think visibility is all Sony needed to boost sales, as even the most clueless will be immediately turned away by the price tags alone-but your view of the vast majority's tech literacy is overly optimistic if not a little misguided.
@@notit7282 i get what you are saying...and i am part of the fringe phone market....but there is too many negatives that Sony needs to step up on to really compete to be honest....i'm leaning towards an s24 ultra....unless sony makes the 1 mark 6 to be Very good
Sony designers 10/10, the design and form factor is just what I'm looking for. Sony marketing and sales 1/10, clueless. If they provided proper compatibility with US carriers and 3-4 years of updates...oh and a cable I'd buy one in a NY second.
1:13 notification led? Where is that??
Another issue is there’s no where to go and just buy one. I don’t know of anywhere to go and see it and buy it.
They don't market their phones, they are available 5-6 months after launch, and they aren't available in carrier stores where most people get their phones from. I love Sony but they're not taking advantage of the opportunity afforded to them since superphone manufacturers like Huawei are officially banned in the US. Also they give their best sensors to other players like Apple, Samsung, etc.
XPERIA phones have better sensors than Apple, Samsung, etc. But Sony doesn't do software AI artificial photo processing, and that is why to our eye photos are better on Apple, Samsung, etc.
Im getting it next, the biggest reason why people don't buy them is because you don't get them for free or with heavy discounts with carrier trade-ins
2 years of OS updates kinda kills these phones for me no matter how good they are and considering how much they be asking for i made the right decision in getting a S22 ultra instead
I got the S24 Ultra and the speakers and dolby atmos for headphones where horrible should have not upgraded
We can only hope for official releases of LineageOS for them after the 2 year mark.
I love my Sony. Completely worth it. I just wish the flashlight was brighter. And I miss photosphere from my old pixel
Ikr the flash is pure garbage
I go to the Sony Canada website and there are zero phones listed. There is my reason to not consider a Sony phone even thou I desire it.
The only probs i have with my Xperia are overheating for no reason, no software update (stuck in Android 11), subtle lags, lack of accessories.. that's about it.. as a phone and a manual camera (which is why I bought it) it's really good.. the best camera I've used tbh.. i love shooting manual.. auto modes in almost every other phone has AI and HDR which ruins most photos and videos.. samsung has too much saturation, apple has too much yellowness, Google is contrasty, Xiaomi is basically an oil painting, OnePlus, oppo Vivo, nothing all the same just with a bit of boosted colors.. Sony is the closest to a dslr/mirrorless camera you can get as of now.
And no, you can't flash a custom rom cos there's not any roms available
The Xperia 1V fortunately doesn't have the random overheating anymore
@@RR-lb6mr good to know, but sadly xz3, 1i, 1 ii, all suffer from it.. planning to upgrade to 1 iii or 1 iv next.
@@noobmaster12311 III and 1 IV will randomly overheat.
@@noobmaster12311 III owner here, it overheats. Just get a 1 V. But ofc if the price is good, then the 1 III and the 1IV are worthy upgrades.
I was once a fan of Sony Ericsson and Sony phones (and even Ericsson, the older GSM/analog models). I loved the cameras so much as they produce natural-looking photos. However, in the later years, when they removed the name "Ericsson," I kept on having battery problems. It happened several times. I felt like l was not getting the value of paying premium devices as the batteries fail in just about a year. Sadly, I switched to a different brand then.
Guys...... It's just GOOGLE simplicity + SONY prosumerish abilities + JAPANESE preference for more ports and utilitarian features that died out in Android 9...(I'm here for it)
when there not readily available on US carriers what does sony expect and only can buy them out right. not many people have 1000 to spend upfront on a phone
Sony phones are excellent! AND lots of people are not buying them. Both those things can be true at the same time.
Amazing DACs to power the 3.5? Not really. I saw an audiophile video and the test results were pretty bad. I wish they did something like LG used to do with their quad DAC setup.
I think 1IV is worth it just because of it's display. Watching videos on it is something different compared to Samsung or iPhone. Its one of those things you gotta see it to believe it. I wasn't expecting that honestly. I have S22 Ultra and I have 14 Pro Max and when watching Disney movie side by side Xperia 1 IV gives you the creamiest image out of the three. It doesn't oversaturate, it doesn't sharpen, it doesn't boost contrast into oblivion like Samsung does. When it comes to cameras I can say Photo Pro app is overloaded with unnecessary features that you will never adjust more than once or twice. Basically, you can play with ISO, shutter speed, metering and HDR and that's about it. Second, video recording on Video Pro is out of this world if you are familiar with Gain, shutter speed, framerates, white balance etc. CinemaPro on the other hand is kind of useless. Anyway it took me few hours to experiment with different settings in all three apps and I can say that now I have everything covered. I use BASIC mode for burst shooting in SDR and for 4k video recording in SDR with stabilization on. I use PhotoPro in P mode for taking regular photos by only fiddling with exposure and HDR. I use VideoPro app for filming high quality 4k 25fps HLG video with 1/50 shutter with no stabilization and all I do is adjust Gain and white balance before I shoot.
Looks like I'm in the wrong because I own a 1 mk iv and love it. Yea the update cycle is terrible but they've kept the features i value most like the headphone jack and expandable storage.
Web browsing with Chrome and daily use are great on my Sony Xperia 1 V
I don't get "software support" rants. Have you ever used a device on its last year of support ? Bugs, lags, all sort of weird behavior - and all that is supposed to help ?
What's the point of having latest Android if you don't get latest features, and loose performance ? It's Android, it never mandates latest version to use apps.
Yes, I get it - you want updates in general. For a current gen phone - of course, I get it. But for old devices - sometimes it's better to avoid updates at all !
I own a 1V and I wouldn't change it for any other phone in the world.
I am sick and tired of people complaining about Xperia cameras eventho they are amazing even in auto mode or as they say basic mode and all you need to do is press the shutter button and will lunch to camera straight way quicker then any other smart phone and also everything is simple and straight forward not as reviewers say.
Also for Pete's sake did you guys see how long is the latest iPhone name is and people still complain about the naming 😂
Yeah. I think it's just a trend to say that. There are videos that actually show photos it takes next to Samsung or Apple, and often times the Xperia looks better. Or they're so close to the same that it just relies on personal taste. Yet every general reviewer reports otherwise. I think they're just making stuff up to avoid having to do actual work -- "Everyone else says iPhone takes the best photos, so I'll just say this phone isn't as good at photos and people will believe me".
The Xperia line has actual problems that are never even covered in these reviews. It's best to find forums or reviews by people who actually own the phone so you can set a realistic expectation rather than just "iphone and samsung better" that every reviewer gives.
Came from pixel 6 pro to Xperia pro-I. Couldn't be happier. In use, Xperia's rock. For me, I love photography and I love having a Sony camera in my pocket without the need to always take out a big camera with me. Also for me the user experience was way, way better than the buggy pixel 6 pro. The Pro-I is better in every way but it should be at almost twice the price!
It's very easy: Sony doesn't sell Xperias because they don't market them. I never see any commercials on the telly here in The Netherlands for Xperia, but I do see plenty of ads for Samsung, iPhone and Pixel. It's almost like Sony believes their phones will sell themselves, or that they just don't care enough about their smartphone division. I've been a long time Sony Xperia user, but it's a fact that Sony keeps lagging behind on the competition and it seems like they've been stuck in the past for a long time now. Sony is becoming the next LG.
What Sony should do instead :
- Camera : Focus more on Auto shooting
- Software : Make it support longer, work on the experience to make it more friendly
I tried the Xperia 1 IV last year and I had massive overheating issues during the first month after launch in the US. The camera shots I got from either basic or pro modes were hit or miss. My carrier didn’t formally support the phone so my voicemail experience got degraded to calling in pressing numbers to hear / manage my voicemails. I ended up having to settle in a variety of areas which made the whole experience feel like a downgrade.
That said I would consider buying one again if some things improved.
A lot improved! From thermals to photo quality
Gotta wait for updates. Even my 1 v i got a couple days ago overheadrd in the camera app right out the box rven 1 update later fixed it and now on android 14, it runs even cooler. Only when charging it gets warm
They did major software updates and I barely have heating issues anymore unless I'm recording 4K 120FPS; however, the new I V is supposed to be leaps and bounds better than the I IV. I'm waiting for the I VI to see if I still want to stick with Sony or switch brands.
I'm Using one and loving it every day
Nice, which one?
Me too, 1 III owner here, planning to buy the 1 V next
@@tiagomachado5360 hows the heating issue, i have a 1 mark II but I'm afraid to shift to Mark III, can you please let me know your thoughts
@@Usiraata i wouldn't do it if I were you. Cameras will be the same almost, apart from the tele module; speakers will be a bit better; screen will be brighter and have 120hz, but that's about it. It heats up randomly and during heavy gaming/tasks like Genshin Impact, or photo/video editing, and that would be fine really, but the heat is unbearable sometimes, and the throttle is quite noticeable. Plus, being a failed SoC as the 888 is, is also less battery efficient than the 865 used in your Mark II. So, long story short: if you weren't an Xperia user, or had a way older Xperia: yeah, sure, as long as you got prepared for some heat sometimes. But since you have a similar device, that is way more efficient and isn't really missing any crucial feature: don't buy the 1 III. I would decide to spend a little bit more on a 1 V if I were you, since that model is a giant leap regarding features (in almost every single one of them). I hope this answer was as useful as it was long lol. Cheers.
@@tiagomachado5360 extremely thankful for your comments, I would not be happy with a phone which is heating, hence I will take your advice and not switch over.
Ill wait up for the 1V then.
Funny thing is the sales of Sony mobiles has increased past 2 years
3:46
It's funny to think that in order for a Sony camera-focused smartphone to sell, it requires a very specific set of circumstances on behalf of a potential buyer.
1. Person must have an interest in cameras, photography and/or videography
2. Person needs a new phone
3. Person either does not own any cameras, or needs a very specific kind of camera with a criteria that just so happens to match the featureset of an Xperia phone
4. Budget does not allow for separate camera and phone purchase.
I just happen to be one of those potential buyers. Unfortunately, I can only get grey-market imports of their phones because Sony has since pulled out their Xperia from where I live.
Just ordered 1V and here for looking to justify my purchase lol. I like how the phones look, look forward to hopefully better ergonomics and miss the headphone jack and Android. Also while being overpriced at least they offer more actual features for the same price as some other competitors. Now if only Sony offered more software updates...
The lack of decent lighting & quality in this video is very telling!
SONY is the only choice.
Honestly, please list out what you need in a phone.
1.
SD.
256GB iphone, for me, ran out of memory in three months.
I was mad on backing up, because they don't let you put photos easily into PC
Instead they give you another expensive way, icloud, a long term liability.
Why Apple list price based on 128GB, 256GB, 512GB?
Why people are paying huge amount on icloud?
Because iphone never has SD slot!!!!!
That means what? SD slot worth more than $500 US
therefore, SD slot is a must.
Samsung was good. I had a few of Samsungs
Cutting the SD slot is clearly deal breaker
I will never buy Samsung again unless they add back SD slot.
2.
backdoor and fingerprint
Today, I use phones to handle money, so the phone must be safe and convenience.
I pay bills by fingerprint. Everybody put on a mask these years that made face ID useless.
Accessing online banking, putting card information....requires a phone without backdoor.
Sony, apart from Apple, is one of few brands that I can really trust.
3.
a perfect flat screen.
iphone notch/ island is still ugly after 6 years after iphone X was launched.
Samsung curve screens never let you place a protector properly on it.
Only Sony offer the flat perfect 4K screen for you.
I filtered. Sony is the only phone.
BTW, Ryan fail to give a real deal breaker not to buy Sony.
"Nobody using Sony" just made my Sony xperia 1 unique.
I am so happy with Sony.
I was a Sony believer during many years and still have a Sony Xperia Z5 compact and I love it, even if it has many drawbacks and is now having real problems due to its old age. The first thing that I did when I decided that I needed to upgrade was to look for the last sony phone models. However, I was really disappointed when I saw these new phones. My priorities with a phone are comfort and usability, and performance in a second place, comfort in my hand and in my pocket also, so I always look for compact phones, and Sony was great with that in the old times. I don't need the super cameras and super displays, if I want to see a film I will see it in my computer, in a bigger screen or I will go to the cinema, I don't use my phone for that. and I don't want to have a television screen in my pocket. Is a pity that they stopped doing compact phones, the nearest that I find in the market are the iphone 13 mini, but I'm not an ios fan, and the samsung 23, but I still don't like them as I liked the old compact Sony phones.
they make the 5 series which are about 6inches in size with top specs and 1080p res display
Xperia XZ1 compact was the last phone like this. sadly the phone you're looking for does not exist in todays market.
The Xperia 5 is the closest thing to what you're looking for. I've made that switch, but it's still a little too big.
The Xperia 5 IV is 1mm smaller than MkIII or Mk5. But they're difficult to find. I've been looking for one allday since my 5 III might be dead.
I still use my Sony Xperia Z5 (2015) as the only phone I've got. Works flawlessly, the battery lasts up to two full days with moderate usage, and the camera is pretty good. The only problem is it got run over by time and modern apps that are probably optimized differently and are dropping support for Android 6.1. I'm considering buying Xperia 5 V now.
2 years of Android updates and 3 years of security updates is unacceptable at the prices they charge. I'd buy one if they supported them longer.
Same here
Same I was thinking of buying one but for me that is way too short as I usually keep a phone for 4-5 years. I know Samsung does 5 years security updates now. I guess though Motorola, HTC don't have long security updates too which is disappointing for me.
I don't think the lack of a Sony-specific software skin is the problem-my old Pixel running Android 11 still offers a great experience! I think, as you said, the biggest issue is the lack of good point-and-shoot software for their cameras that make the (genuinely excellent) hardware seem lackluster to people who aren't professional photographers.
Had Xperia 1 Mark 3. Good phone until it broke after 3 months and Sony did nothing to fix it. Worst costumer support i ever had.. And oh! 2 years softare support for 1400$...
less software support & heating issues what prevents me from buying any Sony phones
Had some Sony Xperia in the past. But they are priced very high and I am not a big fan of the 21:9 display format. Just bought a Motorola Edge 40 Neo. Good pricing and got the features I want.
I think the japanese managment who run the Xperia division dont realy understand the consumer market anymore.
The only thing they got wrong is pricing. The Edge 40 Neo is just every other smart phone out there. Seriously, all phones are basically the same these days, you might as well have a Samsung, there's little to no difference. At least Xperia keeps unique features like SD, Audio jack, no notch, a good form factor/aspect ratio, and very little bloat. If they swapped to the 'consumer market', they'd go out of business because there's no reason to be buying any android phone other than Samsung or Pixel. I'm not even sure why you decided to get a Motorola Edge. If Samsung or Apple went with a 21:9 display, everyone would be raving about it and it would become the new standard for all phones.
I'm still using the XPERIA XZ1 for about 7 years now. It is still working and I really love how quality and long lasting sony phones are. I'm looking for a new phone to upgrade but goddamn, sony phones are expensive. I am torn between the 5V or Samsung S23+. The latter is cheaper and have similar specs, but I used a samsung (note 2) before my sony and it is full of bloatwares. Is it still the same for current samsung phones?
Yes, in fact Samsung has even more bloatware now.
@@pixels_per_inch does it take up alot of space?
My XZ2 Compact is the most comfortable phone to hold. I still have it, but the battery needs replacing. I love that it is supported by LineageOS so it is still getting updates 6 years later.
Should i buy a used unit just for photo and video purpose?
I love the way you narrate. That, combined with your leisurely pace and soft sound track, make your reviews so vibe and relaxing to watch. It's informative, educational, and feels authentic and unhurried. I feel like I have room to enjoy a drink slowly while watching, and don't have the fast paced urgency or anxiety with faster paced videos. I just love the format. Never let anyone tell you that you need to change. Everybody else is doing the same thing. You do you.
Back on the 5 ii after 18 months on a company provided iPhone. Camera is not as consistent especially with foliage and high contrasta scenarios. Also the fingerprint sensor stops working after a while and a reboot is required (very common issues with the later xperia phones). It is very hard to for them to compete because the sales are too low to have the budget for r&d or great hardware. The economy of scale plays a huge role here.
I want 1 but no retail in Canada sells it and they dont got the band for 5G
All my life I have been using Sony. Infact , my last Sony was stolen in August 2022. I was forced to buy Nokia (it's a stupid phone it doesn't hv any of Sony's features) if only Sony companies will bring it to Nigeria, I'll do anything to have Sony seriously. Bcos it will always be the best phone ever.
The truth is outside of Apple, Samsung & Google the marketing for other phones are pretty bad 🤷🏾♂️ no one knows about them.
I think another reason is, there is no subliminal hard sale in the form of youtube and hardly any advertising.
Most typical people don't care about the PASM settings snd what they do. The sensor technology in these alone are worth the extra money along with coated lenses preventing fringing.
I owned 3 lg phones which were great besides the G6. The V range were always out my range of affordability and now they are obselete besides third-party hong kong markets.
My hope is that they update their pro-i with a better implementation. Again that will be too expensive for general users. Although creators having 2 1-inch sensors at their disposals means they have a great compact solution in their pocket.
Nothing Apple has ever produced has made me want to devote my resources to them. With Android you can swap brand and UI without too many incinveniences.
stupid sony updates policies... they should at least give us 4 year updates support..
Sony Xperia 1 has most of the features that I would like a in a smartphone except with 1 IV had an overheating issue due to 8 Gen 1, then 1 V removed the notification LED knowing Android 14 would come out with a flashing notification.
Wishlist.
3 years Android OS Updates, 4 years of security patches to that of Google/Samsung/Nothing
Proper 5G Bands included
Option to change the Screen Resolution from 4k to 1440 or even 1080
LTPO Display
Start selling to Cell Phone providers so they can increase their market share.
Release the phone much earlier (this year alone was an improvement)
Keep everything that was in Xperia V and put it in Xperia 1 VI w/ Notification LED
Give U.S more options than just 256gb SKU
I've had a Xperia XA1 dual since 2018 that I got new for $250 and it's still going strong and I love it ! Has 23mp front camera . Eventually i'll be looking for a phone with 5G
Sony and LG should've paid youtubers in order to succeed in sales.
What kind of headphones are you using during the video?
I agree, I've had mostly Sony xperia phones and the cameras aren't suitable for the purpose, which is point and shoot. In manual mode they can take good photos but phones need to take good photos quickly and automatically, there's no time for posing when you're out and about or have kids.
How many years of software update? Their target audience?
Watched this on my Xperia 5 III. I got it because I wanted a headphone jack and a phone narrow enough to use with one hand, in addition to avoiding overprocessesed pics and learning photography controls more.
I agree that the software support is bad for the price. My next phone may be a non-Sony because they stopped selling the Xperia 5 in the US, and the 1 is too large and has worse battery life than the 5.
If they continued a US version, my next phone probably would have been an Xperia 5 VI.
got the same phone here, it's perfect for me so i'll probably put a custom rom on it to keep it updated
I had that same phone and it was great (with a case, it was too slippery otherwise). Unfortunately, I dropped it and it stopped getting cell signal :( premium phones are too heavy and break themselves with their weight. Didn't even crack the screen or the back which is crazy.
Update: The I VI isn't sold in the US either. It may work, but with some missing bands and some headaches that aren't worth it to me. I've moved on to the Asus Zenfone 10. Only had it a few months but so far it has way fewer headaches than my Sony did, which had to be sent into warranty repair twice and non-warranty repair once for a failed screen and fingerprint sensor.
Between my bad hardware experiences and the fact that Sony is no longer offering US variants, I've moved on. The Zenfone's photos are horribly overprocessed, but still okay for snapshots. Otherwise, so far, so good.
Because it's expensive. I love Sony, currently using 1 mk ii.
Watching this on my Sony Xperia 1
I probably wouldn't buy one due to the fact you're stuck with a 21:9 aspect ratio and a fragile fingerprint reader but I'd probably buy one because despite that it's still gonna be better than anything else
Poor marketing from Sony. I always love the Flagship design of Xperia phones.
So..this means..buy xperia 1 phones!
Watching this from 1 mark ii after 3 yrs and the phone is flawless!
Camera's outstanding till now to take specific shots that no ordinary user can if u know your way with the settings. Shooting the moon for example.
Would love to buy the v but seriously dont need to.
I really can't find them ever on stock anywhere and the software kinda feels lacky.
Do they support esim?? What happens if I have one physical Sim and SD card and want to add another esim line while traveling??
Sony makes phones that I would buy because they do not look like they are made for children like sparkly tinted Samsung or Chinese phones, looks are great, they are aluminium with edgegs, sharp, great. I would buy Sony phone if they made them in proper size so you can watch TH-cam full screen and read full lines of text. I would buy Sony phone if they got 10€ or better behind 3.5mm jack, I would buy Sony phone because it got SDcard slot... but... 10€ dac in any Samsung USB-port will sound better then any Sony 3.5mm socket, I get MicroSD-car to Samsung phone and I see full size webpage with Samsung phone, I see full size youtube video with Samsung, but I hate how large Samsung phones are, they do not fit in to your pocket and Sony is too long. I have 65" Sony OLED tv, Sony AV-reciever, Sony 4K player, why would I ever want to watch movie with phone? Loose that aspect ratio, it is stupid. I will buy Samsung A54 and I hate how heavy thick and large it is, I hate it's rounded chassi and plastic, but S-serries do not have SD-card slot and both of them look like they are for chieldren.
I own an Xperia 5 gen 1, the fingerprint reader was not great from day 1 and now (3 years later) it's completely dead.
Their software sucks big time. Even the camera is not good in real life usage. They are good only on paper… their camera is pathetic compared to phones of that price.
I caught a used xperia 5m3 for 120 EUR and it is a big candidate to replace my redmi note 10 pro. Especially for that price.
My wanted specs:
- lighter -> 168g
- telelens
- more RAM (usefull for my postprocessing in Termux)
Now I am testing the phone and change the original Image to lineageOS.
And try to adopt all my Apps to the Sony.
Some things are not so good in the first View:
Shared SD/SIM Slot ;(
The photo button is nice but a pure touch button would have been better. The form factor is not ideal for people who write a lot. The Xiaomi was already narrower than my old phone but the Sony is a lot narrower again. If you spend 2 hours on it editing a blog, it will wear on your fingers. ;)
Even if it doesn't end up being my Camino AIO Phone, it's currently the best everyday camera I have with me.
In Singapore, it cost $1900++. The Xperia 5 cost $1500++ and the Xperia 10 is between $500 to $600++.
Let's start with price tag and what the buyer is getting for the $1200?
1. Only 2 major OS updates onto 2 years window.
2. SoC throttles because of missing adequate cooling chamber.
3. There's literally no way to find repair spare parts, especially batteries.
4. Finger scanner is dead after software support is done, from my experience I felt that.
5. Because you are Japanese doesn't mean all products you produce are high quality.
At the moment I am thinking about replacing my almost 6-year-old Huawei P20 (I used it for 5 years) with Sony Xperia 5 V, so I found this video.
Well, it seems to me that Sony has very poor post-sales support. In first place I want to point at software updates. Hey, they committed themselves for a two-year software updates and three years of security patches. The model is already on market for few months so that means it's not a really two years now. And the phone is quite pricey to expect so short period of support.
On other hand, before Huawei, I used to own some Xperia phones, I was fan of their products and my Sony Z3 Compact Tablet is still working like the first day. Although it runs on Android 6.0 :) But for sure, it gives an obsolete feeling when used. I see similar UI design on Xperia 5 V in this video, ah!
Another thing, I can't buy it in my country! So, I need to order it online from some UK or US shops.
So, I am not sure. The camera performance is important to me as well as software support. Maybe, for that price, the better solution would be Huawei, Pixel or Samsung?
because i couldn't afford it unfortunately
I bought a Sony 5 iv yesterday for 600€. I bought it because of the features for the price, but I wouldn't buy it if I didn't have plans for rooting my phone at some point, when the updates stop. An older phone with this little support isn't worth buying if you don't plan on doing that
I used a Samsung not long ago. The UI hasn't changed from the original One UI, settings aren't organized the way I naturally think it should, etc.
And I spent a year and a half with a 13 Pro. I tried to like this phone so much, but couldn't. The UI felt boring after a few months (updates didn't improve anything, not that I hoped it to), it's unorganized, and the picture quality was so bad that I took less and less pictures than ever before.
Then came the 1 V. And I've never thought a phone could be this good.
I have an APS C camera as I like to take pictures. Now I can do the same, with my phone. And even better, its video capabilities are so good that I now use it as my main video tool.
Battery life is great and just got better with A14, audio is simply the best you can get on a smartphone, and everything just works.
To be fair, the 1 IV was not the best of the range (I was looking for one but decided to wait for the Mk V because of the 8 Gen 1). And Sony said that 1 V sales are good, that should mean something.
Please help me
Pixel 8 / sony 5v or xiaomi 13t? Battery is important for me but the 5v sucks when it comes to updates..
I am a Xperia 1 II user, I also have every generation of Samsung from S10 Plus onwards. The selfie on Xperia 1 II is very bad, the IV is better and considering buying that one. I like the light weight, the fast UI and video stabilization. My only real complaints are the front camera, the screen could be a tiny bit bigger maybe, the price is also too high
I forgot to add, as someone else's commet just reminded me, I heard that the next top of the range Sony smartphone is not going to be called a phone, but a camera with a phone app !
Quite right, a phone is now a phone, but the photo & videos keep getting better & better. How many people have a small pocket sized camera any more, very few.
You have no clue dawg, the phone doesn't support AT&T which is a huge deal in the USA. Also has a bunch if random issues that no one has seen on another phone like notifications not lighting up screen and yes I know there's like 10 different settings to check it just didn't work and I couldn't use my Sim card so they're basically useless as a phone ... Talk to people who used them instead of assuming
I got a brand new 1 mk iv for 54000 yen, or about 370 usd. I originally bought this phone because of the headphone jack, notification LED, SD card slot, etc, but I found myself really loving the camera. I have an iPhone 12 which I still ocationally use for quick photos, and I wish that Sony would include a basic auto camera more like what's on the iPhone, but when I have the time I like to play around with the camera settings which just gives me phenomenal results. This is fine by me because I rarely take a photo of myself or people in general, mainly landscapes. The software update situation is a bummer, but hey I got this phone for less than 400 bucks so I can't complain.
because not many people know the quality of the Xperia phone with camera shutter, SD card and iconic LED notification. one more thing, there are too many Sony applications regarding cameras, I think the best option is to combine their camera applications both photo and video into one.
How about software updates? How long will sony support them?
You probably right . Sony has always been struggling with their software support & intergrating their hardware & software
Kind of suprise that sony did not improve their software experience
I used to love sony xperia for the no-fuss stark utilitatian UI but like you say, UX things have moved on. I'll always remember though, the Jony phone was a meme with senior Apple folk for a reason
The main dealbreaker for me is the tall format. If I use the phone with one hand (which I prefer) I just can't hold it and also reach the top part of the screen (and many apps put important features there, so you HAVE to be able to reach it). In one video, I even saw someone holding the phone and they had to change their grip on the phone quite a bit just to be able to reach the top part of the screen. The width is okay, even great, but the tallness...I really would prefer a more normal format. Also, I think the Xperia 1 and 5 are too expensive, so I would want the Xperia 10 instead, but that one uses a middle class CPU with very laggy performance. So since I don't want a tall phone that also lags even in the regular menus, I skip on buying Sony phones, which is sad since I have generally liked their performance and design in the past, but that was when they had true compact phones. For a long while, Sony had a really good standing with people that looked for compact phones, but after a while Sony gave up the compact phone focus and those who wanted smaller phones were quite disappointed in that.
I still hope the Xperia 10 VI (6) could offer something more. I could maybe consider buying it if it had a better CPU and no lag. And if they shrink the format and give up that super-tall, super-thin screen, then yes...I will almost positively buy the Xperia 10 VI. I'll hold out a bit longer, but I'll soon have to buy a new phone, due to 3G being taken out of the coverage equation and 5G entering the scene, but my current phone doesn't support 5G and the battery on my current phone also isn't that great, so...I just have to get a new phone, and soon. And Galaxy S24 just wasn't what I wanted, for several reasons.
I've had Sony phones for a long ass time. XZS, XZ1 Compact, XZ2 Compact, Xperia 5, Xperia 5 III.
I buy it for the compact size, front facing speakers, headphone jack, 1080P screen and no holes or notch bullshit.
Tho they've gotten bigger and bigger, I feel like Sony's design still have the most amount of common sense, which is really hard to find these days. (except for XZ2 Compact, that thing was trash)
I used a HTC One before Sony, since they were the first one to have front facing speakers.
Common sense:
1.There's absolutely no need for a phone to have more than 1080P display, it's plenty sharp. My computer screen was 1080P not so long ago.
VR cardboard is an edge case, and the only justifiable usage.
2. Don't do something stupid with the screen either, hole punch, notch and screen that rolls over the edge. I'm not saying screen to body ratio is none sense, but those ideas are just dumb, it causes soo much headache for a percentage or two. we already have plenty thin bezels.
3. Front facing speakers, how the fk does any phone not have them? it faces the front because you will be in front of the phone. 2 Speakers because people have 2 ears. They're also symmetrical so the design will be great, you can also utilize the top speaker for calling, lower speaker hole to put the mic inside.
4. Headphone jack?? Do I have to explain this?
5. Screen size. I know that size of the phone is up to personal preference. But at the moment, there are no other compact options out there. I personally like a phone where I could reach everything on the touch screen with just one hand. But sadly even Sony is moving away from that. The newer Xperia 5 are too big.
Despite all their flaws, I will keep buying them. They are the closest thing to perfection, even tho they've decided to move away from it every generation.
Now for the flaws:
1.They tried to take away the headphone jack with XZ2 Compact, I got rid of that phone immediately.
2.Since the new naming scheme, Xperia1,5,10. They've set up the finger print sensor to trigger on touch, instead of triggering when I actually press the power button.
It's always unlock the screen when I didnt intend to, or when I take out of the pocket it registered too many failed unclocks and I have to use the PIN. This almost made me switch to another phone. But after shopping around, a better choice does not exist, not even close.
3. Sony still won't allow people to swap the back and menu button. This is in stock Android FFS!!! They removed it just to annoy people.
The perfect phone was XZ1 Compact, nothing has ever come anywhere close.
I'll keep buying Sony phones and huffing copium hoping they'll make another XZ1 Compact with modern hardware.
i have a sony xperia 5ii. i love it although its deffinitly not perfect (but which phone is perfect?). i will be rocking this thing for at least another year and then ill probably buy a 5 or 1 again. i do see sony make good steps also but yes indeed conviniance should be better. one thing i hate is that it cant just make single shots with the physical shutter button when i have the burst mode enabled. pls sony just make 1 sec delay in this. and also i hate it that i cant make videos with all lenses at ones. like making a video and then swithcing to selfie video in 1 video. would be just amazing. for the rest sony is amazing. the 21:9 screen is amazing. the splitscreen is amazing. battery life is amazing.
I use an Xperia 1V. I am definitely a person. That's singular of people. I've been taking photos for pleasure since 1962. I own the Xperia for Photography Pro, the camera-like interface, and the shutter button.
They're reliability is crap and the after market is limited availability and extremely over priced!
On, and the problems you spend half the price of the phone fixing just come back again!
Exactly. And Sony can't update their phones for shit when Google, Samsung, and Apple are updating loads of phones constantly, with very long commitments to continue doing so. As someone who has had Xperias, including the Xperia 1 III, f*** Sony.
I would buy the latest 1 V phone, but, the lack of reasonable duration software support makes them look very poor value.
My Xperia Experience is that the camera is not very good,
1. Exposure measurement depending on focus type, wide, spit etc same for all, which is wrong, I pointed this out on the A6500 and sony fixed that, not on the Xperia as of yet.
2. Bit Depth in accurate, highlights and lows do not render even on HDR mode, try editing pushing or pulling just 5 stops and you will see clealy data loss, if you know your stuff you will know what I am talking about, you shouls have at least 7 stops for bit depth.
3. Custom file header, makes it hard to accurately colour profile, as it changes on every shot, again pros always set colour on site with grey or colour card & this device cannot give accurate colours, it relies on AI rendering, to test use device with zero connect to inet, Bluetooth or wifi & you will see how bad it really is.
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