Small Phones are Dead and We Killed Them
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 พ.ค. 2024
- More of a rant than anything. Small phones are dead and we all killed them
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For someone with tiny raccoon like fingers, I will keep my 13 mini going until it turns to dust.
THE GREATEST TECHNICIAN (with the smallest hands) THATS EVER LIVED
Same here with my 12 mini, love that thing and didn‘t even realize Apple discontinued the mini iPhones
Who would have thought that the greatest technician that ever lived watch the greatest reviewer that ever lived
You have 2 hands. Problem solved
But that lightning connector is gonna haunt us
Marques is the type of person who builds a custom coffin for a phone just to make a statement.
We saw that coffin review earlier
Edit: Sorry I thought you were talking about the big red coffin
@@852rm You did naat!?
@@852rm it was about the big one, not the small one if I remember correctly.
@@ashish_sunnyhe has a video reviewing random things
@@ashish_sunny i guess he's talking about the small one...
4:37 maybe if the 12/13 mini weren't also competing with the SE series, then it'd sell better as the cheapest iPhone
SEs are a market beast for second hand cheap phoned
the next iphone SE should be the mini size. This will help differentiate between the regular iPhone models while satisfying the community who wants smaller phones. I think the trend towards bigger and bigger tablet-like phones is very bad.
The irony is that it’s really hard to find these phones on the secondary market because people are desperate to keep them
Despite what the market seems to do, I hear from a lot of people, that they can't find new, small phones.
I would say, 80% of women I know, want a small phone.
I know a few guys, mostly the ones who do labor intensive jobs, they want a small phone what fits into their pockets.
In my view, the perfect formfactor was the LG/Google Nexus 5.
I had this phone twice and loved it.
@@GoalSquad666100% this!
We didn't know about the Zenfone until a year after my wife bought the S21. She has hated the size of the phone since she bought it, but didn't know of any of the good alternatives. She would desperately go back in time and get a Zenfone instead. But it just doesn't make sense for her to upgrade to the Zenfone at this point, since we just spent nearly $1000 on the S21 and it still works perfectly fine.
I also think there's a correlation between people who get small phones and people who don't upgrade their phone very much.
Came here to say the same thing
yeah, i had the 12 mini and only just upgraded to an s24, but if i was less of a power user i could happily have made it to 6 years
@@hvrbros8730im gonna keep my 12 mini for as long as possible
I’m still using my iphone SE
This is why the Zenfone failed. It's pretty much the same size as the S23/Pixel 8/iPhone 15, but those offer 5 more years of software support. Asus is just a hardware manufacturer. They profit from people buying a phone every year.
Marques: I’d like to order a coffin. (1.5 X 0.75) feet
Coffin shop: But for what?
Marques: It’s complicated
baby coffin lol
@@petervansan1054 lol?
@@petervansan1054babies are not that small, maybe fetus
coffin shop: but for what?
marques: for the dead. 🤷🏻♂️
Marques: "You wouldn't get it"
As a woman with small hands, I did not ask for larger screens. My favorite phone I've ever had was a 5" screen with a slide out keyboard that I had in 2011.
THANK YOU, my tiny hands are clumsy and if the phone is too big, I'll just end up dropping it...
The weird thing is that they invented foldable displays and didn't use them to reduce phone sizes. Instead these phones have the size of a small tablet when they are opened.
Except they did. Samsung Galaxy Z Flip and the new Motorola Razr are the big-name ones that act like flip phones instead of tablets.
Innovations ✨ 🗿
I love my flip 5. So smol
Have you even seen modern flip phones, such as the ones Samsung makes?
Marques got an excuse to use the coffin (casket) again lol
@@Tiger10002 stop playing
Stop playing games and get a job to support your family@@Tiger10002
@@Tiger10002 What good does this message do on someone else's videos? I see you make videos, why don't you make a video asking for support from your viewers- not someone else's.
@@Tiger10002 nobody cares
😂
"Reachable from corner to corner and doesn't require huge pockets".
That's what I really miss. 😢
I don't. Small phones are dumb and everyone knows that. Good riddance.
@@beardsntools
ok
@@beardsntoolsSpeak for yourself, I love my IPhone 12 Mini despite it's compromises, will continue to use it until Apple doesn't support it anymore.
@@beardsntools that's YOUR opinion. Many people actually like the idea of a phone that can be fully used with one hand and can fit COMFORTABLY in a front pocket. For probably the last 6 or more years I've had to buy pants with a side pocket just so I don't have to put my phone in my front pocket.
@@beardsntoolsGood riddance that people with different preferences don't have options?
I really like that there is no background music in this video. Great work!
Yes, because everyone hates music????
@@vicepresidentmikepence889If you want to listen to music, go and listen to music.
This brings back old (and fond) memories of Sony Xperia Z compact lines. Was using them for several consecutive years, upgrading from one compact to the next, and they were great! And yes, as someone with relatively small hands phones nowadays are just so big and heavy some days you can just feel it on your wrists and joints 😭
What did you upgrade to after the XZ1 Compact?
mu favourites too!
@@MegaXtc11 the Z3 Compact (in green - I remember this vividly as the color XD )
@@georginebianca7540 I think you might have those twisted around. The XZ1 Compact was released several years after the Z3 Compact.
I'm proud to be one of the 5%. It's not that we have tiny hands. It's that our hands didn't get any bigger since 2014
Lol peak hand was reached
As someone who has an iPad, laptop and TV I see no point in having a giant phone. Very inconvenient for me during daily use and I'm a male with average size hands.
Im 6ft tall and have monstrous hands. But I preferred the mini due to needing to do less hand movements
yea, tiny hand or not, having a phone that my hand can hold comfortably is godsent
My hands are huge, but my pockets ain't. So I got an Xcover 5.
As a current 13 mini user, I’m sad. They should bring them back every like 5 years or something so once our current ones get really old and start dying we can get a new one.
No, they should release a mini version every year.
@@Rodrifuuu From a business perspective, it simply isn't profitable enough to keep it going for large smartphone manufacturers. I honestly don't mind it if they went with that idea.
or they should finally build one to last
crApple doesn`t want you to keep anything for 5 years lol
i wish i got one when they were sold, i can't buy a used one because the scammers where i leave
This channel influenced me to buy the S10e in 2019-2020 and I still use it to this day. Its only drawback is the battery that I may change at some point and the fact that it may stop getting security updates in the next couple of years.
A nearly perfect phone.
or maybe because phone batteries degrade. though they are called non replacable you could totally get them replaced if you really want to keep using it.
I bought that one too! What a great “fun” phone!!
Now I’m using 15 pro max lol
I am still using my S10e that I bought 3 years ago. The phone is awesome and just the right size. Hope more phones like this will come out again in the future. I really don't need a giant phablet.
I kind of miss my old Sony Xperia Z1 compact, I could use the entire 4.3" screen with one hand. Going from that to the S7 was a noticeable change. I also remember when we used to mock people for using "phablets".
Apple, Samsung, and Google, should release a mini like every 3-4 generations. And make it publicly known ahead of time that that's what they're doing.
Then it should actually sell enough to make financial sense and still provide the niche market an option.
Alternatively... they could NOT do that and drive us into settling on a bigger phone with chunkier profit margins... :(
they don't do small smartphone anymore cuz we consume less content in it and they want us to consume as much as possible (only rugged phone can have small size since it's not their goal to have customer consume as much as possible)
@@DERRPANZER size of phone correlates to amount of content we consume?
@@andy.robinson when we have smaller phone we tend to consume content on another devices that have bigger screen (PC TV etc) but on bigger phone we will less likely use another devices to consume content
No one buy small phones, why would they do that?
the mini coffin ⚰️ 💀
They make them that size for a reason.... Damn, it went dark quickly
Mini Coffee Wood Edition
@@joaooliveirarochababies?
@@Tiger10002 Please, report him for spam
it's so cute though
Marcus, I wish you would also review earbuds sometimes. I always watch your videos esp. of mobile phones. I was looking for a TWS earbuds (something not as costly as airpods pro 2 but maybe similarly good enough) and I couldn't find your review vids on earbuds at all
Im just happy to still be here in 2024 with Marques. Mobile tech has come such a long way. I remember in 2018 watching him predicting mobile and being so accurate to that technology and here we are…
Finally found another use for that coffin 😂😂
I'd ask why he kept it but I guess there's not much of a market for "slightly used" coffins.
@@siraaron4462Undertaker might have some
😂😂😂
☠️
Yeah I assumed he sent it back to the company or something. Cool to see it again.
RIP -FISKER- SMALL PHONES
rip😟
lol
did your mom work for Fisker? @@Tiger10002
😂😂😂😅 stop that
Fisker should make phones
That's why I really loved the Google pixel folds size it's good for using one handed when you want to look at something real quick or send a message and then you can open it open for the bigger screen when you are not moving around so much
Can someone tell the name of the intro song in this video?
Thanks!!
Still rocking the 13 mini and won't 'upgrade' until its dead dead.
Watching this video on it and I replaced the battery 1 week ago after 2 years of usage
You are smart with your small hands😂😊
man said that like that phone not just 2 measly years old lol
@@Pouimatiomhow long the new battery last now?
I think this here is why the sales look bad. The people who like small phones are more practical and don't buy new phones as often. I still use an s10e just fine.
As a 13 Mini user, it pains me that we'll never get great small phones ever again... 🙁
Same. I love my 13 mini!
It's supported through 2028. You'll be fine.
Same I am a mini user and I am sad
Me three! I wonder if it would’ve been more successful if they made a "Pro Mini" with higher specs… guess we’ll never know 🫡
Wait till Apple makes a flip phone. I have a Samsung galaxy Z flip 4 and I absolutely love the small size when folded. I have a little mini pouch for it on my belt
3:37 Wow the transition ❤
5:35 crazy foreshadowing for the video you made after this one about if bad reviews kill companies
I’m a 6 foot 3 man with large hands and won’t give up my 13 mini until there’s a same size replacement. It’s still a gem.
I’m a 6’3” man with tiny little lady hands out of which they’ll have to pry my iPhone 12 mini. Did we just become best friends?
Is there any room for a 6.1 guy with hisbeloved iPhone 13 mini😅
13 Mini is the best phone Apple has ever made.
Just stick a new chip and camera in there and give us the same damn thing. It's perfect.
@@sahidulislamrajan491 just barely 😅
Hopefully they come out with a new SE that will keep the IPhone 13 mini body with upgraded specs
Small phone lover here - I can’t help but wonder if the problem is they’re bringing out new small phones *every year* - I know my journey has been iPhone 5s, original iPhone SE, iPhone 7 for a month or two, and I’m now on the SE 2020. I don’t need all of the bells and whistles, so upgrades are more “when necessary” than “when the next shiny thing comes out”.
Maybe if a phone maker just did a new mini phone every 3-4 years, it would see higher sales?
They did it too small which is good for "mini" lovers but it was TOO small for anyone to really consider it for that price. Now when they bump iPhone 16 size a little bigger mini would be a cool choice but it won't happen now.
Maybe the sales guys are responsible too. For larger profits they push the normal phones more than mini ones
have you heard of the jelly 2 by unihertz?
@@davidmeier1004the idea is great but 3" is actually too small for me, if they introduced a 4" phone I would gladly buy it
@@unicestwiacznoworodkow7 look at their upcoming tank mini
my favourite size handsets were the Sony Xperia Z1Compact and then the Z3Compacts. I would point out that some of us need a bigger screen with a bigger typeface ! (currently using to the Samsung S24U with stylus!)
Exactly the same path, now on the thin Xperia 5 II and it's slightly too tall but very pleasant..i wish they'd loose 1cm in length.
The fact that you did build a mini coffin for one video is amazing! lol
This video feels like an actual funeral to me.
Small flagships will always be near and dear to my heart.
The world was cruel to you, minis...
You'll be missed, dearly...
I could just cry rn...
Speaking on the iPhone 12/13 mini not selling well; one thing I can add is that a lot of carriers wouldn’t recommend and even sometimes (like what happened to me) *discourage* and *lie* about availability of those phones to sell the more expensive and available models. So I, someone who actually asked for that product, wasn't able to buy it due to phone stores and companies not selling the darned thing. Very disappointing that small phones are going away.
very true, I live in a "iPhone dominate" country & have never seen a Mini & when I asked my mom who wishes her phone was smaller (13 Pro), I told her about the Mini's & she didn't know they existed.
Yep. Apple probably wanted it to sell well. The carriers did not. Less money for APple isn't much of an issue but through carriers means less money for carriers too and they don't have to worry about silly things like honesty about the products they sell, like Apple or Samsung do.
That's true. They make more money and big phones consume more data as well. That's what carriers like.
Small iphone isn't popular at all outside tech enthusiasts crowd. Glad it's gone.
I’m only 4’9” and they tried to talk me out of the 13 mini because it’s “too small” when it was actually the perfect size for me
Fascinating! love all the Daft Punk stuff! Even got a helmet there! 😎👍🏻 I just switched from the S10 to the Galaxy S24 Ultra, and the size is pretty noticeable. I still have my old iPhone 4s here and that was quite a small but great phone! They sure have been getting bigger! 😅
When the iPhone 12 was initially unveiled during the keynote my friend said the face she made at 3:22 was “We agreed on two suitcases! Not a third!” 🤣 anytime I see that clip I die laughing
Still sticking to my iphone 12 mini and waiting for a good option.
I'll go trough several battery changes before I'll buy one of those phablets.
EXACTLY!
Going to upgrade my SE 1st Gen to a gently used iPhone mini 12 in Red… just hoping it is available on eBay though.
12 Mini is an amazing phone.
Amen 🙏
What if your phone breaks before then?
Looking at my iPhone 12 mini on my desk, with a tear on my face. "You're all alone now buddy. Please be resilient, I need you"
“He is not alone…”
- my iPhone 13 mini
I just bought a used 13 mini that still has AppleCare and I'm happy you can buy yearly AppleCare now, so I'm gonna keep mine until it is too slow to be functional. I figure another three or four years at least.
Hey Marques, get someone to remake the sidekick with modern screen, processor, and camera. We want the same form factor with the track ball (along with touch screen) with some cool exclusive software things that make it fun.
The funny thing is that I use a Zenfone myself and sometimes miss my bigger smartphone that I had before. It was just way too big for me in my pocket, but it was still nice to work with it.
And I say that as someone who likes small smartphones.
I also think that the flip phones will not prevail, but the fold phones that allow you to have an 8 inch display.
My brother is a small phone guy. He even replaced the battery in his old iPhone SE to keep it going longer. He had a 12 mini and went ahead and upgraded to a 13 mini before it was too late to buy them anymore. I'm guessing he'll keep this thing going for as long as possible.
I've never wanted a small phone but I don't like the size creep on everything in general. I think the 5.8" iPhone X was as big as I'd like a phone to be but then they had to push it up to 6.1" with the 12 pro for some reason.
tell your brother to get a nokia.. having a small phone and an iphone is essentially like a feature phone lol
@@beardsntools If that were true the iphone would have never taken off to begin with. Small smartphones are perfectly capable, not everyone wants a small tablet in their pocket.
Yep, I think X and Xs had perfect size! Maybe even better than 12 and 13 minis
im doing the same thing with a galaxy s10e ive replaced the screen 3x times
Personally, the iPhone “Mini” lineup is one of the best form factor you could ask for a phone. Heck you can even text with ease using one hand!
It was perfect
I have a mini what are you on about it sucks typing with that thing especially when you are having a debate in a group chat
@@AlphaCat7 I used to have the same problem with my 12 mini but then i discovered slide to type that actually helps a lot. You could try it out too
They did an awful job marketing the minis. Most people I’ve seen who use them irl falls in love with them and wishes they still made them.
Yep. I haven’t loved a phone as much as I loved my 12 mini. I usually upgrade every year, but if the 13 mini had 120hz, I’d still be using it. 60hz is what made me go back to Pro models.
It feels like it depends on what you use your phone for. I work as a consultant (developer) and before I ended up sitting 100% at the same client I had a much longer commute to the office.
Back then I had a phone that was around 4" and I carried a Nexus 7 with me to view TV-shows and movies while commuting. These days, even more so after the pandemic when I'm now working from home, I don't commute much anywhere. I watch my content on a computer monitor or on the TV.
I have a Pixel 4a and I love it. It is the perfect size (actually, it might be just a smidge too big) for what I use my phone for. And that is making calls, checking the mail and, the few times i do commute somewhere, read some work related articles. Unless I can find something with a similarly sized screen I will just keep rocking this phone until the battery dies.
As someone who's been thinking of buying a phone for 2 years, waiting for a small one to come out, it's greatly comforting to see someone as influential as you publicising this topic through a separate video.
This was really needed.
My phone is seven now, and I've relented to getting a giant Nothing 2(a).
RIP small phones.
I got the Sony Xperia 10 IV. Not the smallest, but at least narrow, so I can hold it in one hand. But I cannot reach the top of the screen :/
I am part of the niche that wants small phones, I have an iPhone 13 mini and I'd instantly go to a SE (1st gen) sized phone if it was revamped with new specs.
Why do you like small size better ?
Im not judging just curious
The problem is physics - can't have the exact same functionality in a smaller phone without compromise. Apple were able to get away with it for the first SE phone being a 6S in a smaller factor minus 3D Touch. However with ever evolving technological and user requirements and optimisations being built in, the new SE lineup will be gimped even more in a smaller form factor unless the size is increased, but that brings another issue regarding a higher price. The SE is meant to be much lower priced to differentiate from the flagship models but a price too close to the 15 will kill the sales before the phone is even released.
@@heylliottI'm part of that niche too, for me, it's way easier to grab with one hand, you can easily tap messages with one finger, same for scrolling, my thumb can reach the other side of the screen and like 80% of it is accessible without readjusting my grip on it (I'm using a zenphone 8 with a bumper case).My hands are a bit larger than the average but my fingers are shorter so I can't use a lot of phones one handed now that screens have gotten so big.
I don't need to have a bigger screen cause it is to me more problems, more surface that could break. + Making bigger phones without adding a headphone jack is just useless to me... I'll stick to the zenphone brand but not higher than the 10 or simply stop buying smartphones if I can't stay with these small screens.
same
Already there! SE for life!
As a woman of a smaller frame, this makes me so sad😭
It feels like most modern phones are just designed to give me hand cramps, and I was so happy after I got my Asus, and I was planning on buying future models when this one would eventually die, but it seems like I just gotta rely on my smartphone less
Try the Samsung Galaxy S series! The Galaxy S24 is basically the same size as the Zenfone, and Samsung has kept the length of the phones between 5.5 and 5.99 inches basically for the last 4 or 5 phones they have released. Heck, the S24 is smaller than the S20!
Only Recommendation I can think of is the Sony Xperia 5 Series and even then there is the yearly scare that they will kill it some day
@luisenriqueperezperez3193 i think zen phone is way smaller.. also iphone 15 is almost same size of s24
@@PAshish-dh5fknope, look phonearena it's the same Samsung just have a better display that goes to the edge
@@v.kut7307 yeah... Also iphone 15 too...
You forgot the S24 and Pixel 8, they're surprisingly small. Regular-sized iPhones (not the huge Plus/Pro Max ones) may count too.
At this point, lower 6 inches (like 6 to 6.4) is the new sweet spot. In-between minis and pocket tablets.
imma agree for that , any phone which is bigger than 6.2 inches it ain't worth for me though cause my hands are medium sized and i want a phone which is comfortable to hold
Sweet spot for who? I have a pro max and I’d like it to be a bit bigger even. But then I’m a fairly large person
@@johnk6757 Sweet spot for most people...
Love size of my S23
I prefer large phones, but I do think that people who want a small phone should be able to get one. It's why I feel the flip style foldables are more interesting than the tablet style ones.
The problem with phones I'm dealing with is that I've been having to adapt from Samsung switching the side buttons on the S7 and Note 10+ from left to the right on the S22 Ultra. It's weird using my middle finger to hit the volume and power buttons. They also swapped what side the stylus is on.. I'm ambidextrous, but I don't think I'd ever choose to use a stylus with my left hand, but trying to grab the stylus with my right hand, with it being on the left side of the phone, is awkward.
As a 13 Mini user, I’m so sad to see small phones go. I will keep my Mini going until another small phone takes its place (which I hope will happen).
I wonder how much market there is for me to make one 🙃
Would be interested to know how many people would buy one.
12 mini here and you are absolutely correct
Waiting it out... Hopefully the 13 Mini holds on for over 5 years.
I think you will have to wait as long as I'm waiting for the physical keyboard phone.
if apple makes another i'll buy in a heartbeat
Getting a 13 mini over a bigger phone was the best decision. Going to keep it as long as it lasts
Asus last year : Small and beautiful
This year: Big and ugly
Just like me when I grew up
But it's sales will be higher than the mini phones.
@@Tatsuki09 lol nice one
@@rishirajsaikia1323No, it won't. Now it will fight with Galaxy S series etc. Even the ROG will outsell it.
iknoww rightt. Previous zenfones' design were iconic you could immediately tell it was zenfone by the size and design. Now they look like just another big ass phone
I went from a many years old iPhone 6s to a Zenfone 9 about a year ago, it was still bigger than I liked ( especially thickness ) but still nice to use compared to 'usual' size phones. Having the higher speccs more than made up for it and I'm still happy with it today but it makes me sad to know that there's probably not going to be a clear update for a while if ever.
I got curious about small handsets recently, and just bought a used Pixel 4a as a "proof-of-concept". I think I love it. Thinking I might want to upgrade to something soon with better specs, etc, that's also custom ROM-able... Well, I ended up here this morning. Looks like I'm outta luck...
As a Galaxy S23 user,having a phone that is somewhat usable one-handed,lightweight, and pocketable is something I'll miss the more rare these types of phones become.
Yep. I think that S23 is better and smaller than the zenphone so I don't understand mb statement
@viviviontheway what he means is as years have gone on phone sizes have increased to the point where screen sizes above 6" have become the norm. Making the majority of people not even consider the smaller alternatives leading to them being rarer and rarer with each generation. We've become so used to large screens that we forget even the iPhone 6 with a 4.7" screen was considered "big".
@@SuperAJTV. Thought the topic was about the rip of phones sized like zenphone...
@@viviviontheway due to the fact that display sizes have increased over the years...
It’s totally usable one-handed when you activate one-handed mode
I had the 12 mini and then upgraded to the 13 mini and still have it to this day. I'll keep it around for a couple more years
do you see any real difference between these two phones?
@@RapManCZI had both, the 13 mini has a much better battery. Other than that, no difference.
Same
True. That's why I bought a iPhone se as my 15 Promax's backup, instead its tiny size, I also like its LCD display when I have to use it at midnight.🧐
I have finally seen a video where MKBHD did not say peace at the end and it's this one!
Been using my iPhone SE (original 2016) until its last breath.
Next week I'm getting a 13 mini and intend to hold on to it until the heat death of the universe.
Hope your SE lasts for a little while! mine's been bugging more and more with crashes (problem connecting cpu and peripherals) lately, but it's been with me since 2017.
SE 2020 version. Never understood the need for big phones. They are heavier, cause hand/wrist pain, easier to get stolen. 4.7 inches is the sweet spot
why not get the se 2022? Any reason?
@@rick1901 no oled, bigger, smaller screen, (bezels), weaker camera etc. ..The 13 mini is kind of perfect, at least for me. Had the SE2020 before and never liked it.
i see, for me the SE was already considerably smaller than my previous phone, and I liked the retro feeling of the physical home button. On top of that the SE was a lot cheaper for me. Specs like the camera i don't really care for, just extras. Oled is nice tho!@@imresomodi4961
Well, the “regular” Galaxy S model is actually a pretty small phone comparatively but sells fairly well. The Zenfone is nice but historically it has been been hampered by lack of support for some US frequency bands and a relatively short software support period.
Can't speak for the frequency band issue as I don't live in the US, but the lack of software support is absolutely the anchor that's dragging Zenfone down. For some reason, my family is pro-Zenfone so I've used everything from the old budget Zenfones to flagships and they all have one common denominator: poor OS updates. Generally speaking, I love Zenfone software. It's super light and very close to AOSP, but their support absolutely sucks. Even when they do release an OS update, it's usually buggy as shit and won't get fixes for a few months.
I bought a galaxy s23 after my galaxy s10e died thinking it was a small phone, it isn't
It is not comfortable to use with one hand, it doesn't compare to my s10e
@@JulesJunktrust me it isn't about small hands. Even my fairly bigger hands now thank me for using s23, I could feel discomfort with 6.5 inch phones
Samsung scres it over too, woulda gotten the s24 but opted for the + just because of the storage
they're already starting to bump the size from 6.1 to 6.2 from the s23 to s24
Something on phones that was sprinkled throughout I'd say mainly the mid 2010's was front facing speakers and I was and still am all for it. It's one of the best things phone manufacturers came up with in my opinion and it's a shame it's basically gone away (with the exception of most "gaming" phones). I had the Razer Phone 1 & 2 and those giant speakers were something else and an absolute welcome edition. I wish that feature was more prevalent now because it makes sense to me to upgrade phones in their entirety including the built in speakers on a phone and front facing is the way to go for sure
I remember I wanted the 12 mini but I wasnt really needing an upgrade at the time, even still today I wish I had just done it since I dont use my 15 pro that much. Small phones used to require immense R&D, creating thinking, and software optimization to have a great experience but today thats just brute forced by superb processors and giant batteries.
I am from Croatia and the year the 12 mini droped I started collage. I saw at least 10 of the mini iPhones in every class I had. People absolutely loved them.
you saw mini iPhones cuz they were cheaper and students can't afford big ones....
@@sidtalks2885 then that is the market they should try to become leaders of na. But they didn't strategize it such
the small iPhone is trash
@@SirPadelot🧢
@@SirPadelot You'll see many in these comments saying otherwise, and lamenting it's discontinuation. I upgraded to the mini from a Pro Max, couldn't be happier with it - unless it was a newer mini.
I remember getting actual shit from friends when I was the first to get the og galaxy note. “What are you doing with that tv in your pocket” 😂😂😂
I also made fun of a coworker for getting that. Now I have a Note 20 Ultra 😂
Yeah. People use to make fun of me too. I've always loved the Note. But I would always tell them, small screen is going to be history one day. I'm talking about iPhone 3 and 4 time.
I make fun of them now because they all use a big phone.
But I think Samsung Galaxy S size phones are going to get popular again within the next 10 years.
Also worth Note-ing (see what I did there) that phone screen sizes have steadily crept up across the board. The Galaxy S24, for example, has a bigger screen than the original Note. In fact, back in those days it may have been considered a phablet.
Same thing with my note 2, note 4, and now my fold 5! 🙄😒🫥
Brooooooo. The OG note was a fat phone for its time lmao. i think we can still call it fat today. i loved it. my mum thought i was going over the top when i got it. called it unnecessary and showing off 😭
When I went from the 6 to 7 plus it felt larger. Going firm the 7 plus to the 13 PM felt like a massive upgrade but didn’t feel unnaturally massive.
I hope a smaller company comes along and makes the smaller phones as there is clearly a small market for it and it’s nice for those people to have a new phone when they choose to upgrade.
One of the many reasons i love the front screen on the pixel fold, its such a nice size :)
Crazy thing is that the mini iPhones had LARGER screens than the largest "Plus" iPhones from two years prior!
Um.... in what universe is the iphone xs max screen at 6.46 inches not bigger than the mini at 5.4 bro?
@@sprockkets
Despite being wrong on the number of years, he did say “Plus”, not “Max”, though he’s still technically wrong. iPhone 6+ through 8+ had 5.5” screens. Still bigger than the Mini’s 5.4” screen, but still crazy how close they are.
@@SirSethery
the bezels are doing the magic.
I bought my GF 2.gen SE and I bought her after two years of horrible battery 13 mini
That phone has bigger screen and still is smaller than 2.gen SE.
@@SirSetheryfair point thank you. But also the iPhone 8 Plus was sold until 2020 (although 256gb was discontinued in 2019.
But yeah, what I was trying to say was how close they were. Thanks for getting that across more clearly :)
@JoshuaVarghese just want clarification that's all
I love my 5.4” iphone 13 mini so much I bought a backup one when I heard they were gonna stop making them 😖. Usually I’d be itching for an upgrade but I’m sticking with my small phones until the wheels come off.
I'm still rocking my Pixel 6 but I'll probably buy a Zenphone 10 sometime this year if I can still get one. I looked hard at the Razr+ but I don't think it would hold up as a daily driver.
I agree as a 13 mini user, the battery life sucks and it’s the only thing that makes this phone annoying to daily use. I’m thinking of changing to the z flip cause it last longer and probably will only use the outside screen more than the inside screen for media content and Spotify, so it’s a great replacement and a great small phone in that regard even tho it’s not consider a “small phone” and more of a gimmick phone.
I just recently discovered my old Nokia 5800 XpressMusic, turned it on and browsed my music for some 20-30 minutes.
After some minutes I was already accustomed to the small screen.
I then put it back and turned on my Pixel 4a, which is considered compact.
I thought the damn thing was far too huge.
If people were forced to use smaller screen phones - they would get used to it very fast.
I still have a Samsung Galaxy A3 (first gen) with a 4.5" screen and sometimes I pick it up and use it for a few hours. After that my (in today's standards) compact Xiaomi Mi 9 SE with its 5.97" screen feels so big 😅.
Keep that treasure, im still diehard Xpress Music, ttpod and lcgbox fans..
As a small phone user (zenfone 9), its an awesome device to use on the go.
When I'm at home I have a laptop/computer for big screen viewing, and even then the smaller phone is easier to hold while reclining.
Please send one to India, we're just bored of gigantic brick all over 6.6 inches pathetic portability in pocket...
The iPhone SE is about the right size phone in width and height for me. Imagine if it was the same without the bezels. The mini was too small I couldn’t type properly lol
I remember seeing that phone when I was in my last year of uni and I was looking forward to getting to the point that my first flagship would be that Asus phone...
I'm thinking about moving to the Pixel 8 from the Pixel 6 to downsize....might even go for the 8a if it's even smaller...miss my Pixel4.😢
8:33 I really like how he use that casket from the casket review video
Proud 13 mini owner here. Bought just 1 year ago. I love all aspects except on the camera there is no 2x or 3x optical zoom.
I think I should change to iPhone mini...
I just finally found a 13 mini in mint condition and upgraded from a 12 mini 1 month ago. Loving the 13 mini even more. So so right in every way.
yes come on man iphone 13 mini man i love it and would never change it until it doesnt support latest ios updates
Typing this from my 13 Mini. Yes, perfect size! But I got it when they came out so the battery is getting wonky.
13 mini user here too!
That ending was unexpected and totally brilliant 😂
Thank you for making this video. We nee a 5.5 inch Samsung with flagship Qualcomm
I'm using an Iphone 13 mini for work and was pleasantly surprised by its "small" size compared to 90% of phones out there, it feels really nice to have a phone that you can actually use with only one hand + the light weight and less occupied space is very welcome.
I know it's a small market, but someone should still occupy that space. I was actually interested in the Zenphones because of the size.
Things have gotten crazy, that I'm seriously considering getting a dumb phone for its form factor, but guess what, Nokia feature phones have bloated physically too.
RIP small phones (flagship or not)
Honor 8, Asus Zenfome 5, S10e all have served me well.
I remember that 4.7" were the standard and more than 5 inches was a big phone. I miss those years!
Those phones had gigantic bezels. The iPhone 15 has 6.1" an is literally just barely bigger than a Galaxy S5 with 5.1"
I miss those years but not those phones, they were slow and awful
Then why didn't you buy a mini phone this generation? You are the reason behind your complaints.
No, thank God it got bigger than 5 inches and more advanced. 5.8-6.4 inches are the best sizes with 6.1 being optimum.
@@Raja995mh33 larger bezels = more ergonomic, actually designed for humans, landscape mode is actually usable, no accidental touches
Watching from my ZF9. Yeah, I ain't gonna be getting the 11 or anything that size whenever I upgrade, that's for sure.
I wonder why so many people don't get smaller phones. It's not like I have small hands, I can comfortably play octaves on the piano. But the zf9 feels comfortable, beyond that just isn't. And so many people I know complain about their bigger devices, but didn't just avoid those issues by getting something smaller. Drives me nuts cause them doing that is why I have no good options anymore!
My Xiaomi Mi 9 SE was the best phone I had, great hardware overall, amazing size, really light and comfortable. Lastes for years, unfortunately stopped getting updates. Really wish some brand would make something like that phone again
Galaxy S24 and iPhone 15 are now the most compact phones....
6 inch or bigger is already too much.
@olivierthebat my s23 is almost identical to the zenphone tho , cause it has slimmer bezels!
@@olivierthebatno it's not. Don't just look at the plain screen size. A 15 Pro Max is literally the same size as the Zenfone 10. And that is considered compact
yeah...6.1'' with low bezels is perfect to hold anything less or more doesn't feel good
@@olivierthebat S24 and Iphone 15 are basically similar in size wtih Zenfone 9. Check out GSMArena for measurements
it honestly baffles my why the majority would rather carry around a pocket tablet.
It's a social status thing more than likely
Better Hardware with better battery life. If I could get the same hardware and same level of battery life from a compact phone, I would buy it in a heart beat.
Because I have big hands. Because I can navigate maps better when driving. Because I'm a power user and like to flick through my phone quickly, and doing that on a small screen is difficult when your hands are cramped into a smaller place. Because more content fits on my screen with less scrolling. Because movies and videos are on larger display so myself and others can easier watch whatevers on my phone.
Want more?
better battery life? maybe
better hardware? no
I’ve got the iPhone mini 13 and I know its battery is less than the other iPhone 13 models but it’s still got more than enough battery for what I use it for. Plus its small size means great to carry while I run!
I use a phone by the name of Doogee, I like the Rugged line they have.
It's a bit big, thick and heavy but I can get over that with it's full to charge time from 15% in about 45mim. It has never overheated, (I live in Vegas) and I like the night vision for nighttime hikes. The battery also seems to last 2 days or more with heavy use.
I got the one for gaming because it has better sound quality and can be used like a speaker.
They recently came out with a mini I'm considering as an extra to have on hand.
Most of the rugged phones they offer are under $400 the most expensive one I've seen was under $700.
I'm seriously curious about _why_ people prefer larger phones
the current screen format going bigger makes sense for sideways use on things like gaming to leave room for interfaces and use both thumbs, but most apps force vertical position and people seem to prefer that too, meaning a single thumb can't make use of all that screen - which doesn't make sense since the appeal of vertical format is requiring only one hand
I still remember the days of saving for an S10e cause i loved how it looked and felt in the hand, so compact. Truly end of an era.
I had that phone and it was glorious
I still have that phone. Still works great. SD card, headphone jack, Samsung DEX.. I am highly tempted to buy a spare one.
@@ShutterKnackAnd they managed both wireless and reverse wireless charging on it. Mind blowing. Still rocking one.
@@ShutterKnack just don't, Asus Zenfone 11on horizon see what's in store
My last phone was S10e and my current phone is Zenfone 10. Inlove both.
This is a similar thing to car manufacturers discontinuing most of the Sadans and pushing SUVs. Why always big with these people?
Oh, that's because the government put strict and ever-increasing economy and emissions regulations on cars and imposed heavy penalties for violating the rules (the CAFE Standards), but not so much for trucks which are often used for commercial purposes. Carmakers don't like risking getting massive fines, so they responded by making nearly every car something that could be classified as a light truck, like crossovers, SUVs, and minivans. Now 80% of all cars sold are "light trucks." It's one of many plans to save the planet that had the opposite affect.
It's because corporations in late stage capitalism don't want to supply us with the products we actually need. Instead they manufacture demand for wasteful overly big products.
They're size queens
@@carstenpfundt😮😅 😳🫣
The car issue is beyond car makers hands, they just work with a legal loophole that let's them make big cars. The small car/truck thing is a 1970s tariff issue and 30 years later a EV push/environmental law gone wrong. You can import a small vehicle but it has to be 25 years or older lol.
Which phone should I buy in 2024? I have used note series since the note 5. But I just dont like them becoming huge. I use the s pen a lot. But willing to compromise for a more pocketable phone. My last phone was a fold 5 and even though I really like it, i cannot put up with the sheer size and weight of it. Do you have sugeestions for me?
Nice review, man
as an iphone mini owner, people always were asking me why I had such an "old" phone.
dimension is the most recognizable design advance in iphone aestethic and this is what I think killed it.
100% not having the pro name
The 12 mini isn't even that old. Do these people expect you to upgrade every 2 years or some shit?
@@person.w9780 carrier contracts are on 2 years so most of the people upgrade every 2 years if they bought over the carrier package
i have the 13 mini and 0 people have asked me that question. who are these judgmental people in your life lol
@@person.w9780no, they expect you to buy every new thing apple puts out the moment it comes out lol
I think one aspect of it is that people like me, who want smaller phones, also don't have a lot of interest in getting a new phone until their current one stops working
This is exactly what I was thinking. I'm not trying to use my phone to replace my laptop, my phone is a distant second device. I don't care about being "bold" and "showy" with my phone, so I don't need it to be big and so I'm also not someone who will want to get the latest one every year or 2. I've got the zenfone 8 and apart from battery life I just can't think of a reason to replace it.
I think practical people are the ones that want small phones, and such people are also more likely to use laptops or desktops as a primary device instead of their phone and thus don't need the latest qualcom processor, are more likely to use a real camera instead of buying the newest phone for its cameras, and so on.
Disagree. There is literally no correlation between people that have small hands/wants a smaller phone and people who don't upgrade often. I would almost say that the contrary's true because women have smaller hands and they normally like to have the latest stuff to be up with the trends.
You just happen to have your preferences, they aren't related
@@rodolfo3268 I don't see any comments about small hands.
I do agree with the hypothesis mentioned above. There are pragmatics and fashion victims, the pragmatics stick with their phones for at least 5 years.
@@rodolfo3268 people who use there phones for everything regardless of hand size usually lean towards a big phone, because they can be more productive and movies, videos, tiktock ect look better. where as people who only use there computers for everything.......and only use there phones on there lunch break at work usually go for smaller phones.
I will use my 13 mini until it's too slow to be practical for anything. I'm so mad Apple got rid of it. I firmly believe it's because it cost them a little bit more to make the smaller phone, the same way as before smart phones, it used to be the small phones that were more expensive. At least in Canada, Apple didn't really advertise the mini and I can't tell you how many people have complained about the size of phones and I showed him mine and they're blown away. They don't know it exists.
I was 100% going to always buy the mini, until when sitting side by side, the spec differences made it not make sense to buy the small one. "You got the 13? but your camera didn't get upgraded (as much), what's the point?" IMHO the bump in specs/lack of innovations in spaces other than specs killed the small iPhones.
Much like how Unihertz keeps the physical keyboard devices alive, they also make compact devices. Check em out.
I’m glad I convinced an older man he should purchase the 13 mini he preferred over the standard 14. He wasn’t sure if he wanted to buy a new last gen phone, but preferred the small size. I was quite pleased to tell him they both had the same chip and would likely have the same length of support.
There is a _slight_ chip difference - base 14 and 14 Plus have the same SOC as the 13 Pro and 13 Pro Max, which differs from the 13 mini and 13 in terms of +1 GPU core and 6GB vs 4GB Ram. But this won't matter to him at all :) - or to me. Do I want more GPU? Yes. Do I want more RAM? Yes. Do I want a phone again requiring two-handed operation? No. (Large models I've had from new include 6 Plus, 7 Plus, (X doesn't count so much as large, had that too) 12 Pro Max.)
I hate big phones. Small powerful smartphones are just perfect for pocket and easy to use.
phones have really illustrated the idea that people don't choose the best thing but often something lesser. It's also a bit of a tragedy that by definition, the highest level exceptional things will always be fewer in number and harder to find among a sea of mediocre stuff. Genius is always underappreciated. I might see about buying a zenfone 10 though.
Yes, and, one more large factor you didn't include (I think the defining reason): The problem of carrier's monopolistic tied selling of the phone, the connection and the financing. They have waaaay too much control, they really don't bother cratering to anything other than the main stream popular market. I've always been a small phone type but I still have hope they will come back. I also expect disco to come back too. Yes, I'm old.
My generation (xennial) grew up with both analog and digital stuff. The thing I loved about tech advancement is the ability to make things smaller, more efficient, portable, and can do more stuff. Taking "small" out of the equation is disappointing. There was nothing cooler than a small phone in ur pocket. Now we have to walk around with bricks. If I want a big screen to watch / play / read books stuff, there is an ipad, a tablet .. even a laptop..
On the other hand, everyone wants to call someone (the least used function in a phone nowadays), watch a movie, read a book, play a game, etc. All-in-one devices need a bigger screen. Well there is always my laptop for that stuff.
But that's just me :)
As a millennial I still carry on a tablet, a phone and my iPod Classic. I tried the all-in-one-device life and honestly I don't get how people can enjoy that. The only reasons I have an iPhone Pro Max are the cameras and the fact tha twith my gigantic thumbs it's more comfortable for writing messages...but it lives 80% of time in a backpack or on my desk...I literally can't use it as much as many people do without my hands hurting and my eyes drying...
I honestly really like the all in one device concept. It's so much easier than dragging a tablet and a laptop with me everywhere.
What is a xennial
Gen Z doesn't know how to use laptops. Seriously. Ask them what a file or a folder or even a program is. They will look at you like you are deranged.
Agreed I don't need a phone to do everything. I prefer using my laptop to watch stuff like movies or online videos or play games. I mainly use my phone for simple tasks like texting and calling or doing internet searches while I'm out and about.
I miss when a 5.5 inch screen was considered large. When I had my Oneplus One, that's as far as I wanted to go and I still stand by that. It's tough trying to find anything now that's both compact and uses a headphone jack
I was about to roast you for wanting a phone that doesn't exist but I'm still waiting for my notch/holepunch-less phone with a headphone jack...
Sony Xperia 5 mark V? 🙂
Just forget about the jack already
👍🏻 The Sony has it
@@Alessandro-K333
Dude. first off the Sony is 6,1 not 5,5. second of all it uses 21:9 aspect ratio.
It might have a headphone jack but it’s missing all the other stuff.
for a small hands like I have, i swap from iphone6s to 6.5inch. I can say that it's not that comfortable to hold, but I got used to it after a year.
next phone should be between 5.2-6.1inch
Hey mark! S23 FE or Pixel 7?