@@houghwhite411 maybe so they could make some sort of money off of it, this is super cool though, you can probably get super creative with all this and make some insane expansion cards
The really nice thing is, they can have the creative minds of those who want to make Expansion cards do their thing and if there is enough demand they can ask for the design and do a first Party Version for it to sell of the webpage. The only sad thing for me personally is that i'm not in the market for a New laptop right now (also a European keyboard would help massively)
To my absolute surprise, HP does! Or did. For older laptops, repair manuals exist, which include fairly detailed schmeatics, maybe not full boardview level, but still pretty detailed. Thing you can find while using HP Part Surfer are pretty amazing. But, when Haswell came, with the last socketable intel mobile CPU being Core i7-4700HQ HP never bothered again. That didn't stop them from whitelisting WiFi and WWAN adapters.
I think this is the most important aspect of Framework's design that people are missing. The third-party peripherals they've created a platform for is so cool, not just for aspiring entrepreneurs, but for STEM and education in CAD and 3D printing.
The one I'm designing should be compatible with any RF receiver simply by removing the RF PCB from the dongle housing and sliding it into the enclosure.
@@ElevatedSystems i couldn't help but think from a user stand point. wouldn't making an enclosure that could fit a pre made dongle fit flush make more sense than heaving to gut and re solder the dongle?
@@ElevatedSystems Why not make a pcb with something equivalent to POGO pins that you can just slide the gutted dongle against since the dongles usually just have the 4 usb pins on the one side and are rarely usb 3.0 spec. then you don't have to accommodate/source thinner USB type A connectors.
pretty cool for an initial prototyping! I really hope Framework will continue to grow and expand into a household name company to support DIY and right to repair instead of buying another new laptop model that costs a lot of money.
@@badjonatan but you don’t have to throw them away. Framework has said you’ll be able to run their MB outside of the case. Whether or not the typical consumer needs a second, slower computer is of question, but I could totally give it to my kids, run it as a server, etc.
@@badjonatan ok yes, that's a valid problem but would a normal consumer of, idk, youtube and excel sheets need the newest hardware I've known people that still runs a 3700 intel cpu from god knows how long what they have is decent for the current times, not bleeding edge by any means tho but would definitely still hold up in 5-10 more years given that the user is not doing heavy work (at which point, a PC would probably be the way to go anyway)
The problem is that this kind of product isn't designed to make a lot of money, so unless the demand is huge, they're sunk. I'll buy one when a Ryzen version exists
When Linus mentioned the idea of someone making their own third-party magsafe connection for this laptop, I was super excited because that was probably one of my favorite features of the old mac books. I might just buy this laptop to support the company (and to eventually have fun with all the third party ports lol) once I get a bit more money saved up. Great video!
As someone who built their own Desktop PC and loves tinkering, I can't help but agree, the idea of being able to build and customize my own laptop has me giddy, especially once they have AMD parts. If I wasn't already in the process of upgrading my (much less flexible) cheap 17 inch HP laptop I'd probably start saving for one of these immediately, as it stands I'll probably wait a couple years to at least give my HP a fair run before turning it into a server or something
This allows us to call out all the crap from traditional companies. It's soooo easy to make a magnetic port, as this video proves. everybody trips over laptop chargers, it's stupid to have the whole thing fly off the table each time. magnetic ports are the biggest no-brainer that apple seems to want to withhold from the public. well now we can just DIY.
@@kvidal88 They aren't withholding it though? They just brought it back on the 14" and 16".... at $2000+ of course. Hyped when the Framework laptop is going to be mainstream with all the 3rd party ports available.
One thing that interests me would be a dual-USB expansion card. It obviously would not have full bandwidth in both slots, but it would be great for devices that don't need the full 10Gbps transfer speed like a USB numpad/mouse. The card definitely has room for at least two type-C slots, even if type-a doesn't work out.
I'm honestly super excited to see what expansion cards third parties come out within a few months' time with proper R&D. For one, there's nothing preventing someone from making a multifunction card - just put a USB hub controller chip on the PCB, and we could possibly have a "Logitech dongle with USB passthrough" card. Now that's something I'd pay good money for.
Honestly I'd love to see all of these concepts realized, even if just as diy projects, by the time my old laptop is weak enough for me to need a Framework laptop it'd be awesome to have a mountain of port options to exactly what I want (and flex on non-modular PCs because I won't be able to resist)
The cool thing here is that framework probably loves the fact that you’ve done this instead of wishing they could charge you $1000 for a new laptop everytime you want a new port
This is the stuff I was dreaming of, when I heard that they publish the exact schematics of these modules. As soon as they add the EU-Iso layouts and post-Covid era demands more mobility again so I can justify the purchase nothing will stop me.
I am pretty sure MagSafe 2 is limited to 85W but i get your point, it would be super nice! Edit: At least from a mechanical perspective I think this is actually possible.
Exactly what my thought was before I remembered that plugging more than one device into one USB port requires additional chip that will handle all signal routing between devices and PC... Which means that there's way more PCB design required in such tight space.
I am fascinated by the Framework laptop and I actually found your channel because of your videos on the product. I would love to see you continue making videos about it. eGPU benchmarks and more DIY expansion cards would be awesome!
Awesome prototyping ! I love how open this system is. Framework might get in legal trouble if they sell a "magsafe" system, but if 3rd parties can make addons like this... That's awesome !
I'm actually very interested in seeing you continue this. Especially for the magsafe power connection. Speaking of alternate expansion cards.... could you do one for a stealth-ed uSD card for security purposes?
Building is building. There's no doubt you're one of the first 100 if not first 10 to construct your own mod framework expansion cards. Hats off, pioneer!
I would definitely love to see you do a video on connecting your eGPU to the Framework Laptop! I have mine on order and currently scheduled for October release and that’s one of the first things I want to try setting it up to as soon as I get it (my Razer Core X with 5700 XT). I actually just SUBBED just so I can keep an eye out for that video in the future!
I'd bet there is going to be some demand for a Serial port module down the road, lots of applications where hardware still use serial ports that would make this laptop a no-brainer upgrade
Awesome to see videos of people creating custom expansion cards, really hoping their marketplace will allow people like yourself to sell these types of cards. Also absolutely want to see eGPU content for framework laptop once thunderbolt 4 certified sounds like a great setup.
Please make sure you shield everything thoroughly, if you decide to make the dongle usb port >usb 2. Otherwise you will have rf problems and random wifi dropouts on 2.4 GHz. Was a big issue when the usb c macbooks first came out.
Honestly seeing a lot of great ideas for expansion options here, hoping in a couple years when I'm ready to grab a Framework laptop that at least some of these will be available, it'd make and already awesome laptop even better
Framework said they're working on it. You need a specific chip to make it work properly, and I think they might be having problems related to the silicon shortage.
Hmm, I wonder if it'd be possible to fit a video DAC in one of those expansion housings so I can get a VGA out going somehow. I suspect not, but that would certainly be a fun experiment.
The beauty of it that 3rd party could create any awesome accessories. But im afraid that will hurt the company because they still a small company but i really hope they succeed and make a better future for laptop
Great video! I'm glad you decided to film and post! Amazing showing of how 'easy' it was to DIY and prototype these pieces, and that you used the laptop you were DIYing to design your parts on a beta release OS. Everything was great all around!
PS; I thought usb 2.0 could do 10W (2Amps) but I guess you learn something everyday. PS2; It was funny seeing an electrical engineer excited to make some sparks and passing up on a tight soldering job :D
This is legit going to be a business. As a lame nerd, could you please stuff an attiny or Arduino nano in there, so that I can have a couple of programmable pins?
If you are able to get both in the same expansion card, it would be amazing! Or maybe get the dongle as part of a "hub" so you can have the mouse connected without losing a port
what would be really cool and useful is if you could combine them, somehow leaving enough room in the (magnetic power) enclosure to fit the mouse dongle, that way you still have three other slots on the laptop
This is awesome!! How difficult would it be to make an expansion card that's just two USB-C ports? I imagine the hardest part would be fitting the soldering and the PCB for the USB hub. Would it work, or would it be too tight a fit?
That's absolutely doable, but you'd need a custom pcb to make a 2 port usb hub fit the enclosure. Also, its likely each port would have reduced capabilities over the laptops built in port. Like, it probably couldn't handle 60W charging over these ports, but high baudwidth connections for external drives or displays would be viable, as well as more common usb device hookups. Depends on how complex the circuits are for bidirectional variable voltage power delivery.
This has to be one of the most important videos for Framework's future: not only did you create your own mods, but possibly you've inspired many out there to do the same and experiment! Soooo awesome
You might want to print the final result out of petg because it has similar properties to abs but it is Easter to print and it doesn't require an enclosure 9r have strong fumes. Those pieces should also be close enough to not require a chamber.
Really interesting video! Love the framework laptop, might get one but I’ll wait till they release a new version since I just got a new laptop less than 2 years ago. A couple of ideas/thoughts on the expansions: for the mouse dongle, is there something that stops you from removing the whole usb part and just soldering the pcb directly on the Type C connector? That might save some space! And for the magnetic Type C adapter, is it rated for the full 100W the laptop can take? Seems a little flimsy for that but I could be wrong, some testing would be interesting to see!
Hey Sorry to bother you but, could you take measurements of the motherboard? In particular, position of screwholes, diameter of screwholes, height, etc? I've heard they designed it to work well outside the laptop, so I'm thinking of modelling a case for it that'll be ready by the time they start to sell them standalone. Thanks in advance
some shots of you soldering through the magnifier would have been nice, instead of the over the shoulder cam work and no close ups of the work after completion??
After working on an expansion card, what do you think are the limits of this? I wanted to see splitters for the USB c ports but the card seems too small for that. Its already super cool we can do this
Allowing customizability like that goes a long way. Just for people who want to tinker, that's justification for getting the laptop. You're gonna get people plugging in those old Micro Machine keyboards with the flames, but because it's funny.
Instead of individual bits(or use this as an extension) you should try different kits that include a bunch of ports that are useful for different things like a charging station, one with like 2 or 3 video ouputs/USB 3 for gaming, or one for video ingestion so high speed thunderbolt ports and different SD card readers. Wanna go from workstation to couch? Unhook everything in your laptop in one go, pop in a different dongle and go
You production quality and editing is much higher than your subsciber count shows - keep doing DIY stuff like this, I really enjoyed my first visit here. Subscribed :)
why use 2 expansion bays? with a custom pcb and if you were willing to solder the rf dongle (logi unifying would be best) i believe you could make this one module
nice, good to see people already having fun with the flexibility of this awesome new take on laptops, this is exactly the kind of stuff that will make this successful!
I think the size of those expansion cards is just wrong. to small to fit in multiple connectors, to big for a single one. I think they should connect the 2 slots, so that you can insert double sized cards.
@@ElevatedSystems Make it occupy both bays on one side with a small fan and heatsink in one of them? It wouldn't be flush with the chassis, but it would be securely attached at least.
Hey! Great work. It would be good to have an expansion module with a pushable knob/wheel for editing and modelling. Thinking further, maybe using both slots to get a bigger/firmer like control surface and adding an extra slot to extend the chain.
Great video. Ethernet port and also it would be interesting to see serial db9 port that goes to a Cisco Router. Yes modern day cables use a regular USB-A but it would be interesting to see it work.
Would love to see more Expansion module videos like this one! Stupid suggestions: A fingerprint reader A Zigbee radio for smart home control RGB led module for "GAMING!" Cup holder module with internal heater NFC reader/writer Headphone jack Wireless charging (maybe stretching it a bit...)
I think it will be super interesting to see all the cool and weird 3rd party dongles for this, just imagining a dongle with a movable fan, one of those small cameras you can connect to your phone 🤣 or maybe something more useful like a fingerprint reader or card reader.
That's so cool, the first Framework video I've seen that isn't about the laptop and instead about the _expansion_ card. Love me a MagSafe proof of concept.
Love the 'magsafe' connection very interested for a full bandwidth one. The wireless dongle is cool, but most of the wifi cards are BT too so why the dongle to connect even? Free up one of the slots.
A few reasons, bluetooth mice have noticeable lag, bluetooth uses much more power then an rf receiver, and to a lesser extent bluetooth has some security vulnerabilities.
I legitimately don't know if it's possible but I'm pretty sure it should be (maybe my guess is they wouldn't be full speed of course) I want a module with 2 usb ports
I was a bit disappointed in the single 3.5mm headphone jack as a single module. Couldn't it be a dual module with a headphone jack and a USB C jack (like a mini hub)?
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Definitely interested in a thunderbolt eGPU test
Saw someone make a video about it working but not with many tests. The board is thunderbolt supported as is the cpu and the ports
yes, definitely more interested in that.
Imma sub to see that
Agreed.
I think linus tech tips mention it's working(the thunderbolt) but framework never mention tb support because of tb certification i guess(?)
dude, i didnt know they were actually providing cad and board references for expension cards. this just blew my mind. like, who does that...
They offer the repair manual and schematics to shops, why wouldn't they provide mere expansion card design?
@@houghwhite411 maybe so they could make some sort of money off of it, this is super cool though, you can probably get super creative with all this and make some insane expansion cards
The really nice thing is, they can have the creative minds of those who want to make Expansion cards do their thing and if there is enough demand they can ask for the design and do a first Party Version for it to sell of the webpage.
The only sad thing for me personally is that i'm not in the market for a New laptop right now (also a European keyboard would help massively)
To my absolute surprise, HP does! Or did. For older laptops, repair manuals exist, which include fairly detailed schmeatics, maybe not full boardview level, but still pretty detailed. Thing you can find while using HP Part Surfer are pretty amazing. But, when Haswell came, with the last socketable intel mobile CPU being Core i7-4700HQ HP never bothered again.
That didn't stop them from whitelisting WiFi and WWAN adapters.
Arduino does 😄
I love how framework makes this possible. This is the laptop we should've had a long, long time ago.
I think this is the most important aspect of Framework's design that people are missing. The third-party peripherals they've created a platform for is so cool, not just for aspiring entrepreneurs, but for STEM and education in CAD and 3D printing.
The logitech unifying receiver was one of the most requested add-ins when the Framework was still an upcoming concept. Nice video!
The one I'm designing should be compatible with any RF receiver simply by removing the RF PCB from the dongle housing and sliding it into the enclosure.
@@ElevatedSystems sick
@@ElevatedSystems i couldn't help but think from a user stand point. wouldn't making an enclosure that could fit a pre made dongle fit flush make more sense than heaving to gut and re solder the dongle?
@@RoraighPrice yep would make more sense. But I'm not sure if dongles are always same size
@@ElevatedSystems Why not make a pcb with something equivalent to POGO pins that you can just slide the gutted dongle against since the dongles usually just have the 4 usb pins on the one side and are rarely usb 3.0 spec. then you don't have to accommodate/source thinner USB type A connectors.
pretty cool for an initial prototyping! I really hope Framework will continue to grow and expand into a household name company to support DIY and right to repair instead of buying another new laptop model that costs a lot of money.
Totally agree
@@badjonatan but you don’t have to throw them away. Framework has said you’ll be able to run their MB outside of the case. Whether or not the typical consumer needs a second, slower computer is of question, but I could totally give it to my kids, run it as a server, etc.
@@badjonatan ok yes, that's a valid problem but
would a normal consumer of, idk, youtube and excel sheets need the newest hardware
I've known people that still runs a 3700 intel cpu from god knows how long
what they have is decent for the current times, not bleeding edge by any means tho
but would definitely still hold up in 5-10 more years given that the user is not doing heavy work
(at which point, a PC would probably be the way to go anyway)
@@badjonatan a £50-30% saving is still pretty good!
The problem is that this kind of product isn't designed to make a lot of money, so unless the demand is huge, they're sunk. I'll buy one when a Ryzen version exists
When Linus mentioned the idea of someone making their own third-party magsafe connection for this laptop, I was super excited because that was probably one of my favorite features of the old mac books. I might just buy this laptop to support the company (and to eventually have fun with all the third party ports lol) once I get a bit more money saved up. Great video!
As someone who built their own Desktop PC and loves tinkering, I can't help but agree, the idea of being able to build and customize my own laptop has me giddy, especially once they have AMD parts.
If I wasn't already in the process of upgrading my (much less flexible) cheap 17 inch HP laptop I'd probably start saving for one of these immediately, as it stands I'll probably wait a couple years to at least give my HP a fair run before turning it into a server or something
This allows us to call out all the crap from traditional companies. It's soooo easy to make a magnetic port, as this video proves. everybody trips over laptop chargers, it's stupid to have the whole thing fly off the table each time. magnetic ports are the biggest no-brainer that apple seems to want to withhold from the public. well now we can just DIY.
@@kvidal88 They aren't withholding it though? They just brought it back on the 14" and 16".... at $2000+ of course. Hyped when the Framework laptop is going to be mainstream with all the 3rd party ports available.
could probably be worth picking an 11th gen intel model now since they have been discounted following the 12 gen intel framework launch
One thing that interests me would be a dual-USB expansion card. It obviously would not have full bandwidth in both slots, but it would be great for devices that don't need the full 10Gbps transfer speed like a USB numpad/mouse. The card definitely has room for at least two type-C slots, even if type-a doesn't work out.
A type C splitter / hub card makes so much sense, I'm surprised it's not an official option.
I'm honestly super excited to see what expansion cards third parties come out within a few months' time with proper R&D. For one, there's nothing preventing someone from making a multifunction card - just put a USB hub controller chip on the PCB, and we could possibly have a "Logitech dongle with USB passthrough" card. Now that's something I'd pay good money for.
Imagine the horror of "Apple original Magsafe Port - Expansion Card for Framework"
A full-size SD card reader would also be cool. 🙂 Just an amazing DIY field. 👌
Get a small enough PCB and you could have an internal RF receiver, two USB-C ports, and _maybe_ an SD card reader. That'd be sick!
Honestly I'd love to see all of these concepts realized, even if just as diy projects, by the time my old laptop is weak enough for me to need a Framework laptop it'd be awesome to have a mountain of port options to exactly what I want (and flex on non-modular PCs because I won't be able to resist)
The cool thing here is that framework probably loves the fact that you’ve done this instead of wishing they could charge you $1000 for a new laptop everytime you want a new port
Because unlike a lot of companies, their marketing team isn't made up of greedy corporate idiots
This is the stuff I was dreaming of, when I heard that they publish the exact schematics of these modules. As soon as they add the EU-Iso layouts and post-Covid era demands more mobility again so I can justify the purchase nothing will stop me.
If you ever print the PCBs that allow 100w MagSafe charging, I’d love one of them - or the design so I can have my own printed. :P
I am pretty sure MagSafe 2 is limited to 85W but i get your point, it would be super nice!
Edit: At least from a mechanical perspective I think this is actually possible.
Magsafe's coil is quite wide, you could use a smaller one, but power transfered would lower as well
@@riccardo1796 They meant the macbook version of magsafe, not the wireless one.
@@riccardo1796 the original magsafe not the iphone one
@@PhilfreezeCH Yes MagSafe 2 is 85W, the one magnetic power solution I'm using is 100W and smaller.
I would really like to see a video on the E-GPU setup. That's exactly the use case I need to validate before I buy a Framework laptop.
Looked like there was enough space to combine these two into one. That'd make it so much more efficient use of these expansion.
Exactly what my thought was before I remembered that plugging more than one device into one USB port requires additional chip that will handle all signal routing between devices and PC... Which means that there's way more PCB design required in such tight space.
@@spakeschannel a solution, though a lot of work, might actually be to design the pcb itself. Someone is almost certainly gonna do that at some point
@@samuvisser
You just need a $10 USB7216C chip
@@spakeschannel Especially in his use case, he also needs advanced power routing.
@@tyaty I don't think the USB7216C supports full USB-C PD but I'm working on solutions. More to come.
Awesome! I'd like the mag-safe to become practical and possible to be sold (with 60W+ ofc).
I am fascinated by the Framework laptop and I actually found your channel because of your videos on the product. I would love to see you continue making videos about it. eGPU benchmarks and more DIY expansion cards would be awesome!
This is so good! Projects like this will make or break the Framework concept.
Awesome prototyping ! I love how open this system is. Framework might get in legal trouble if they sell a "magsafe" system, but if 3rd parties can make addons like this... That's awesome !
They don’t have to call it that lmao
I'm actually very interested in seeing you continue this. Especially for the magsafe power connection. Speaking of alternate expansion cards.... could you do one for a stealth-ed uSD card for security purposes?
yeaaaaaa% useful for airport!!!!!!!
Could be one with the SD slot from the top, so it's covered when plugged in.. It could still have USB port on the outside for extra stealth
@@uiopuiop3472 Could you explain to me why is it useful for airport as someone who never travelled?
That's a laptop how it should be! Expandable, repairable, customizable, and it works, I'm impressed Framework!!!
Building is building. There's no doubt you're one of the first 100 if not first 10 to construct your own mod framework expansion cards. Hats off, pioneer!
These videos are very cool, my next laptop will definitly be a framework once my current one wears out.
I haven't watch the whole video yet but I respect the start so much I'm subscribing
I would definitely love to see you do a video on connecting your eGPU to the Framework Laptop! I have mine on order and currently scheduled for October release and that’s one of the first things I want to try setting it up to as soon as I get it (my Razer Core X with 5700 XT). I actually just SUBBED just so I can keep an eye out for that video in the future!
I'd bet there is going to be some demand for a Serial port module down the road, lots of applications where hardware still use serial ports that would make this laptop a no-brainer upgrade
Please continue this series.
This is so sick! I've got a framework on order and I'm so excited. Great builds!
Awesome to see videos of people creating custom expansion cards, really hoping their marketplace will allow people like yourself to sell these types of cards.
Also absolutely want to see eGPU content for framework laptop once thunderbolt 4 certified sounds like a great setup.
Please make sure you shield everything thoroughly, if you decide to make the dongle usb port >usb 2. Otherwise you will have rf problems and random wifi dropouts on 2.4 GHz. Was a big issue when the usb c macbooks first came out.
I like how the modular system is inspiring people to modify,
Really cool content, and great marketing for framework. I'm probably buying this as soon as they ship to Europe
This is awesome! Love to see this kind of testing! Now, a USB-C splitter would be nice. An extra port from the 4 max you can have would be great.
Honestly seeing a lot of great ideas for expansion options here, hoping in a couple years when I'm ready to grab a Framework laptop that at least some of these will be available, it'd make and already awesome laptop even better
Framework said they're working on it. You need a specific chip to make it work properly, and I think they might be having problems related to the silicon shortage.
Its so cool that you actually can do this.
Hmm, I wonder if it'd be possible to fit a video DAC in one of those expansion housings so I can get a VGA out going somehow. I suspect not, but that would certainly be a fun experiment.
The beauty of it that 3rd party could create any awesome accessories.
But im afraid that will hurt the company because they still a small company but i really hope they succeed and make a better future for laptop
Great video! I'm glad you decided to film and post!
Amazing showing of how 'easy' it was to DIY and prototype these pieces, and that you used the laptop you were DIYing to design your parts on a beta release OS. Everything was great all around!
PS; I thought usb 2.0 could do 10W (2Amps) but I guess you learn something everyday.
PS2; It was funny seeing an electrical engineer excited to make some sparks and passing up on a tight soldering job :D
This is legit going to be a business.
As a lame nerd, could you please stuff an attiny or Arduino nano in there, so that I can have a couple of programmable pins?
If you are able to get both in the same expansion card, it would be amazing! Or maybe get the dongle as part of a "hub" so you can have the mouse connected without losing a port
this is amazing, great work. framework definitely is what laptop should be .
I just f*cking love framework’s laptop
Great video! Thanks for sharing your expertise.
Tbis thing feels a lot like a fully powerful Raspberry Pi.
I love it.
what would be really cool and useful is if you could combine them, somehow leaving enough room in the (magnetic power) enclosure to fit the mouse dongle, that way you still have three other slots on the laptop
I'm a simple man, I see Framework, I upvote.
Woah now that is freakishly cool. Always hated having little stubs sticking out of my laptop, haha.
I would love another video like that! Subbed just for that :D
Thank you for the great video!
This video was awesome!
That was pretty cool! Got me subscribed
Yeah... compartments and mounts... "eyes up the hot glue" that's what I would do o.o
oh right... of course he used it eventually... :D
Great framework videos. Earned a sub - and hope you do more framework stuff! I get mine on Wednesday.
would love more card design
Is there a follow up to this? Would be really exciting to see the final version of the expansion card with printed pcb. 🙏
This is awesome!! How difficult would it be to make an expansion card that's just two USB-C ports? I imagine the hardest part would be fitting the soldering and the PCB for the USB hub. Would it work, or would it be too tight a fit?
That's absolutely doable, but you'd need a custom pcb to make a 2 port usb hub fit the enclosure. Also, its likely each port would have reduced capabilities over the laptops built in port.
Like, it probably couldn't handle 60W charging over these ports, but high baudwidth connections for external drives or displays would be viable, as well as more common usb device hookups. Depends on how complex the circuits are for bidirectional variable voltage power delivery.
I need more of this
This has to be one of the most important videos for Framework's future: not only did you create your own mods, but possibly you've inspired many out there to do the same and experiment! Soooo awesome
You might want to print the final result out of petg because it has similar properties to abs but it is Easter to print and it doesn't require an enclosure 9r have strong fumes. Those pieces should also be close enough to not require a chamber.
I love how in the LTT video featuring this laptop Linus talked about someone doing exactly this mod, this is awesome!
This was great!
I need this laptop. Like, I really need it
Pretty cool. I wish i had friends who i could share this video.
Really interesting video! Love the framework laptop, might get one but I’ll wait till they release a new version since I just got a new laptop less than 2 years ago. A couple of ideas/thoughts on the expansions: for the mouse dongle, is there something that stops you from removing the whole usb part and just soldering the pcb directly on the Type C connector? That might save some space! And for the magnetic Type C adapter, is it rated for the full 100W the laptop can take? Seems a little flimsy for that but I could be wrong, some testing would be interesting to see!
I'm including the USB-A port so the card can be universal and accept any RF dongle. Also the final magnetic charger will have the full 100W PD.
Those Ryobi tools in background reminds me to check up on Aging wheels to see what's new there 😁
Does Framework have an m.2 NVME (PCI-E 4x, gen 3 or higher) slot? I plan to use an egpu with it.
Also love your videos man.
Yep, support M.2 Gen 4. Even has the label in the DIY kit.
Hey
Sorry to bother you but, could you take measurements of the motherboard? In particular, position of screwholes, diameter of screwholes, height, etc?
I've heard they designed it to work well outside the laptop, so I'm thinking of modelling a case for it that'll be ready by the time they start to sell them standalone. Thanks in advance
If you haven't heard the recent news, Framework posted the CAD files to a 3D printable case for their mainboard with the measurements
some shots of you soldering through the magnifier would have been nice, instead of the over the shoulder cam work
and no close ups of the work after completion??
yes please another one of these
After working on an expansion card, what do you think are the limits of this? I wanted to see splitters for the USB c ports but the card seems too small for that. Its already super cool we can do this
Allowing customizability like that goes a long way. Just for people who want to tinker, that's justification for getting the laptop. You're gonna get people plugging in those old Micro Machine keyboards with the flames, but because it's funny.
Really hope they add a cellular modem option/add-on.
Instead of individual bits(or use this as an extension) you should try different kits that include a bunch of ports that are useful for different things like a charging station, one with like 2 or 3 video ouputs/USB 3 for gaming, or one for video ingestion so high speed thunderbolt ports and different SD card readers.
Wanna go from workstation to couch? Unhook everything in your laptop in one go, pop in a different dongle and go
omg, your chanell is so underrated
You production quality and editing is much higher than your subsciber count shows - keep doing DIY stuff like this, I really enjoyed my first visit here. Subscribed :)
why use 2 expansion bays? with a custom pcb and if you were willing to solder the rf dongle (logi unifying would be best) i believe you could make this one module
I wonder why there are no RF antennas in any laptop - Bluetooth is built-in
How self sustaining of the Framework laptop. It's letting you design expansion cards for it.
nice, good to see people already having fun with the flexibility of this awesome new take on laptops, this is exactly the kind of stuff that will make this successful!
I think the size of those expansion cards is just wrong. to small to fit in multiple connectors, to big for a single one. I think they should connect the 2 slots, so that you can insert double sized cards.
A capture card module based on a mini magewell card would be super cool
Keeping a capture card that condensed cool might be an issue.
@@ElevatedSystems Make it occupy both bays on one side with a small fan and heatsink in one of them?
It wouldn't be flush with the chassis, but it would be securely attached at least.
Expansion card that can take a LiPo for things like a quadcopter and turn it into extra battery life :D
Hey! Great work. It would be good to have an expansion module with a pushable knob/wheel for editing and modelling. Thinking further, maybe using both slots to get a bigger/firmer like control surface and adding an extra slot to extend the chain.
Very cool, would love a magnetic charger for any laptop i get!
Great video. Ethernet port and also it would be interesting to see serial db9 port that goes to a Cisco Router. Yes modern day cables use a regular USB-A but it would be interesting to see it work.
It would be cool to try the wireless mouse one but still pass through the USB port
Would love to see more Expansion module videos like this one!
Stupid suggestions:
A fingerprint reader
A Zigbee radio for smart home control
RGB led module for "GAMING!"
Cup holder module with internal heater
NFC reader/writer
Headphone jack
Wireless charging (maybe stretching it a bit...)
The notebook already has a fingerprint reader and a headphone jack
Yes, please do an eGPU video!
I think LInus from LTT would love to get your finished magsafe module :)
7:05 You need to use the CC1 and CC2 pins if you want to negotiate anything other than 5V, so the USB 2.0 connector won't work for that
Exactly. The final PCB design will support full 100w PD.
@@ElevatedSystems naturally the final will, I'd love to see a video when it's done. Just came across this channel, and this was awesome
I think it will be super interesting to see all the cool and weird 3rd party dongles for this, just imagining a dongle with a movable fan, one of those small cameras you can connect to your phone 🤣 or maybe something more useful like a fingerprint reader or card reader.
This is so cool, I hope a great addon community builds around the framework laptop!
Hi, I'm here to say there's overwhelming demand.
That's so cool, the first Framework video I've seen that isn't about the laptop and instead about the _expansion_ card. Love me a MagSafe proof of concept.
a usb c hub would be cool 2 port one care or usb c and audio in the same slot
I hope you uploaded the STLs to Thingaverse!
this was dope. do more. i wanna see ridiculous framework mods.
Interested in seeing SIM card expansion and see it will work or not.
Love the 'magsafe' connection very interested for a full bandwidth one.
The wireless dongle is cool, but most of the wifi cards are BT too so why the dongle to connect even? Free up one of the slots.
A few reasons, bluetooth mice have noticeable lag, bluetooth uses much more power then an rf receiver, and to a lesser extent bluetooth has some security vulnerabilities.
Instant sub!
framefork should do one.
I legitimately don't know if it's possible but I'm pretty sure it should be (maybe my guess is they wouldn't be full speed of course) I want a module with 2 usb ports
you use a mac-book for your work so why did you got a framework (windows/linux based) Laptop at all
I don't own a MacBook. My wife and daughter have Mac's. I've been waiting for the Framework since I heard about it back in February.
I was a bit disappointed in the single 3.5mm headphone jack as a single module. Couldn't it be a dual module with a headphone jack and a USB C jack (like a mini hub)?