Imagine a CEO being so knowledgeable about the product that he can point out the most niche things such as routing channels in his product. Its a breath of fresh air. Its helps that he has such a nice case presence.
If you look, right after he says he's built a few thousand of them, Linus has a visible reaction before the cut. Pretty sure Linus was about to ask him "holy shit, you actually work assembly too?!"
Most, small company CEOs own their product. It’s where they started so it makes sense that they know their stuff. If it were a company like Microsoft or Google, I doubt their latest CEOs could tell you a thing or two about their OS or their browser and how it works.
Just the fact that Framework is coming out with a second generation of products and is meaningfully expanding their accessory line is a huge sign of success compared to a lot of other similar startups. Kudos to those folks, I really think their success would be a good thing for the laptop ecosystem.
Yeah how many "modular" or "upgradeable" product lines have companies far bigger and more mature than these guys produced? Basically none of them ever got more than one or two lame modules and "upgradeable" laptops universally NEVER got any upgrades (remember MXM?). But these guys seem to genuinely be making it happens and I love that
Investors are companys biggest enemy... They are the main reason why you have bugs in games, software and hardware... why? Because they see a screen working, you tell them hey its not ready we still need time yada yaa... they still force you to publish/release..
@@ahmadmuraish1144 It's a 2-way street. Investors have to keep the pressure up to make sure something is actually produced. No customer or investor will wait forever if the product gets stuck in development hell.
Plus he gets the team to deliver and knows how to assemble his own products. You don’t get many managers that can do that let alone a CEO at executive level
I agree, I mean obviously this is all promotional. But at least they seem to be aware of what LTT is doing, probably watch their videos and understand the context of it all. Which is pretty rare to see for most companies even, even more for CEO's. With other companies they often seem so out of touch with even their own products.
@@VoicesInDark If Elon can get the title of "Founder" from a lawsuit for just being one of the first investors, that should tell you a "founder" doesn't need to know shit of a product.
@@m_e_nere To be fair, Framework only has roughly two products :) But in this case, isn't the CEO also the founder? Never seen a founder who wasn't excited about their product. :)
Last time I've seen a CEO this close to their product was probably Eric Migicovsky and Pebble. I'm rooting for the Framework team to make the dream work! Also as soon they release the touchscreen + active pen input version, I'm switching to them.
Gotta say how impressive it is that the Framework CEO knew every part of that machine, and how he kept his cool watching Linus touch his baby. You can tell guy seriously loves that machine and cares about it being done right.
Above and beyond Linus investing monitarily, the exposure on the channel is priceless, he would be a fool not to utilize the audience the collaboration offers, that said it was an enjoyable watch.
It's kinda like every massive tech giant.. starts with engineers making stuff thats great to making profits... Hopefully LTT & Framework never go down that road. When engineers (or generaly people passionate about the product) are in charge, companies can make some truely amazing things.. When they sell to investors (privately or going public), that has a tendency to change things over time.
There's a world of difference between CEO of private companies and CEOs of publicly-traded companies... the publicly-traded company ones are basically just figureheads put in place to do the bidding of Goldman Sachs and to collect gigantic paychecks as a signal to investors that the company is doing well. One of the things I like about AMD is that because they spent so long getting almost bankrupted by those "professional" CEOs that eventually they were willing to actually hand the company over to an actual engineer (Dr. Su) in an act of desperation. Since she is a PhD-bearing engineer and business is one of the simplest topics in the universe in comparison, she just had to spend like a weekend learning about business stuff and then was able to immediately reorient the company to actually center around engineering excellence and boom, took off like a rocket. I imagine by now she's probably having to get into knife-fights with bankers to keep out the parasite MBAs who would want to get in and start slashing and burning for tiny short term gains at the expense of long-term corporate survival (those types of CEOs hop from company to company every 3-4 years, so they're fine with cutting a throat that won't bleed out for 10).
Esther did a great job, I hope she gets great feedback from her coworkers and peers, and allows herself to feel more confident doing similar things in future.
I'm not seeing nearly enough love for the cooler master rep. She got on video out of nowhere and kept her cool and did her best to explain everything. Just the fact that she didn't think she would have to talk tells you she was 110% nervous about it.
Do you see any review at LTT comparing any cooler master HSF ? A chart even ! I really wonder what's up - or what isn't - with LTT and cooler master. I mean ... probably noctua has some partnership with LTT that leaves cooler master out. Probably ...
this could be better if they had a steamdeck like case too i know its a small company but think its not that hard to do it if they show something like that probably they will got more investment.
Right! This parent and son chemistry is really fun to watch. Linus also, in my opinion, is really passionate in this kind of Framework topic videos. His demeanor is more lively and entertaining compared to his usual appearance on the other videos. Keep making video like this please.
Man we need more Nirav! He seems like a CEO I'd actually want to work for, someone who really knows his product. Super excited to see Framework continuing to kick ass. They deserve it.
It's settled for me. When my laptop dies, and Framework sells to my country, I'm buying it! This video showed the team excitement, that we already saw previously on the actual product design and care. Bravo! Esther was also awesome, and I praise Coolermaster for this good collab!
I will be too. Framework seems to be the next step in computing. We can forget these large companies such as Dell and HP which sell restricted machines which you cannot customise to fit your own needs.
Probably the same. My cheap $200 Dell Latitude 7490 from eBay is still pretty solid, but in a couple of yearls I'll definitely be replacing it. Hopefully it all works out for them. Looking forward to the 16" model. Having an expandable bay for an external GPU, more drives, or a removable battery is a game changer. Also having six IO ports instead of four gives tons of options.
It's great. Whats missing for me is an expernal power button that you can add somewhere to your monitor. I'm not crawling behind the monitor everytime I want to turn it on.
@@geyoda64 there is someone who made a board you can attach to the input connector so to which you can solder a power button, usb 2.0 and some software controlled leds. Google "Framework Mainboard Power Button Shim"
@@AltonV True, but that was purposely build to be on a monitor, as the whole concept of mini pc's was to have it directly on the monitor. This here from Framework and Cooler Master is a "byproduct" that came to life because you can purposely re-use your old MB, when you're upgrading, to even further support the idea of limiting E-waste. 🙂
I would be happy and fine if they did abandon the first adopters. I know a project like this is super-difficult and complicated, and in the process many things have changed and improved. I am willing to let a company like this off-the-hook because they deserve it. But not the huge established corporations which promise something just to break it shortly after. If anything, I would be happy to see them get a lot of things right and start a "FrameWorks 2.0" platform. And when they are successful ($100 Million valuation) that they can always come back and reward their first adopters with a free laptop or something. Something like that used to be super-common in the 1980s startup scene. But the past 20 Years it's been companies trying to be super competitive in pleasing shareholders.
Esther did a great job dealing with Linus's craziness, showing off the product, and doing great on camera. Even though she is obviously not as comfortable in front of a camera as Linus, she did a fantastic job!
Honestly i dont think she was fased by the camera but by linus, hes so damn rough with everything i love it, but you could see the anxiety building as he messed things up
@@trento7183 100%, love them both, but feels like dave2d is more like a uncle or one of the dad’s friend, you know, gentle. Friendly, knowledgeable and just calm
Props to Nirav (Frameworks CEO), knowledgeable and good on camera and seeing Linux handle your beta version delicate hardware must be hard haha. Props to Esther, definitely sounded like she wasn't aware she'd be on camera at all and possibly not confident in her English but she did great. Framework is the only company that actually seems to take this concept of reparability and upgradability for a mobile device seriously. I hope it takes off like crazy and they'll tackle other market segments.
The HW they offer, so the specs, are top notch, better than Lenovo's T14 series - if the built quality is good it's also an absolute bargain - they could sell for 20% more easily and justify it that u don't need to buy a while new laptop next time and save $ buy just replacing the Mainboard - I really hope they don't get a buy-out and then killed off " for safety reasons"
That happens when you're a real startup founder. You start a company to do something you know how to achieve, at least roughly. Instead of just getting investors money and hope people you hire in the future will figure it all out.
I feel like these framework laptops are a big middle finger to large tech companies that restrict our ability to repair and modify the products we buy from them. I like it.
I really hope they become widespread, at least as a hip premium option to ultrabooks. I hope some day these are sold worldwide and not only in developed countries.
IDK but I always supposed that when someone is CEO, he ought to know every thing his company does bcs he like... Build it and stuff. Am I naive and stupid?
@@WryNose yes, sadly so. Chieve Executive Officer (CEO) isnt "Founder". Companies with a board sometimes change through CEO's like i change my underwear: maybe once a year. There are even companies BUYING a certain CEO in hopes of him getting it back on its feet.
The dynamic of linus ripping apart his computer like a monkey while nirav stands there in horror is priceless, I hope to see more videos involving this paring in the future. You can tell how badly nirav wants to do the upgrade himself. Its giving a strong "for tinkerers by tinkerers" vibe.
I actually agree with their choice to not include wifi and audio stuff. If you have a compatible bit from elsewhere or if you’re taking a full laptop and desktop-ifying it (not keeping the laptop working) that reduces e-waste. I think they should say what you will need in addition to a motherboard when buying it so that someone isn’t blindsided.
You may not even need it. A lot of people probably have some old USB sound card lying around that came with some headphones or phone or who knows what. I know I’ve accumulated several over the years, and even the ones from like 15 years ago still do the basic job of USB in, 3.5mm out.
I agree, you might have busted up your screen and your repurposing the working parts into a desktop or headless machine. Or if your making a homeassistant server or similar, you don't need audio on it at all, and you'd want the 2.5GbE NIC instead of a WiFi NIC anyway.
So do I. There will be bigger chance of those who don't need them and it would just produce more potential e-waste if it is included in the default package.
Yeah. Just a little warning pop up or something should be just fine. Giving people exactly what they may want and nothing extra that may go in the bin is the aim fo the entire operation. So it is a good decision
You did great Ester! That was a lot of pressure to be put under all of a sudden but you did a great job. Love the framework guys and gals, always nice to hear from the people actually making the product.
More to the point, we need AFFORDABLE replacement parts for laptops. Do you also remember the prices of MXM GPU's back then? Horribly overpriced for not a good increase in performance (it was either cheaper or would cost the same to just get a brand new laptop with modern dGPU). Personally, I use mostly 17" laptops. I like the bigger size and the power it can provide... and because I like portability and doing content creation/productivity on the go, I don't mind lugging a bigger laptop with me (its not that heavy).
All of Linus's Framework videos are seriously the best marketing Framework could possibly ask for. The number of new laptops they're gonna sell after this video is probably pretty significant.
I think Framework is making the right call with not including anything with at least the base Cooler Master case. Less waste from things people don't need, but it'd be a good idea to be able to add some modules to their case purchase as packages (if they don't already)
@@Will-sc3hw this, but also, for upgrading the case (like in the video), you’ll likely already those modules, and there’s no reason to pay for another one
@@aarond309 Yes and no. If you’re going the full upgrade path that Linus is showing - you have those modules but you still want/need them for your laptop. So additional modules will be necessary if you need that functionality in your re-deployment of the old board.
You can always buy more modules if you want them, but if they're added by default and not wanted they would be waste, which I understand is against the philosophy of the whole project.
@@phyphor Seems to me that the solution would be to include some modules, but allow the user to select which ones they need included when they order it.
Love how the CEO has SO MUCH knowledge about each and every aspect of the product even down to how the fan pipes are different between each board, what the debugging lights do, etc. That's impossible for someone who doesn't have passion for what he does ❤ Shows how CEOs need not be all business-ey all the time.
As a CEO (and also maybe the founder) of startup, they usually manages almost everything, till company get big enough and more specialized person come in to manage each part of business process. He maybe eventually will change his position to more suitable for his capabilities/passion when the times come. Like how LTT now. Linus step aside his position as CEO so he can focus on what he can do the best and let CEO manage the business
if the ceo is also the founder then yes they ave to be into the business field no matter what it's in like 80% other than that the founder is rich and really rarely duinno about something and jumping for pure hype normally wealthy investors will buy small business better than founding from 0
I absolutely adore the concept, the CEO, and the results they've shown so far. Hits all my wishes for reuse, smart design, and great user experience. I hope and pray they keep growing until I can buy one!
Framework really is changing the game regarding upgradable PCs. But yeah, Linus’ previous attempt at upgrading the GPU of his laptop seemed like it was painful for the employees.
I believe you meant CPU, but mainboard/logic board wouldbe more accurate. They're not doing anything new, they just haven't abandoned it after 1-2 generations, which shouldn't be amazing but is
Honestly, if they maintained their current ethos in designing a printer, I'd buy that in a heartbeat, as well as one for my mom and one for each of my closest friends. I would honestly throw my money at them for it.
OK, I was skeptical. Beyond skeptical. I said it was a solution looking for a problem. I was wrong. Being able to swap out and turn the old "computer" into a new computer is a game changer. Excellent stuff.
@@wojtek-33 My thought is enterprises. Companies can move an employee’s machine into a less-damaged shell or upgrade their existing shell without throwing away the existing one. Even it timespan of less than 5yr mere repairability is worth it.
@@wojtek-33 for me a key consideration is that I don't necessarily need to be the one reusing this. I have plenty of family members that would be happy with something like an Intel NUC and this would work for them as a primary PC in the cooler master case. Plus 11th gen Intel running Linux is a lot more powerful for running stuff that people would often push to a raspberry pi.
@@wojtek-33 thought about repair ability?. What if your usb-c breaks?. Internal display cable goes out etc etc.. with this its an easy swap. Its so much more then just upgrade a mainboard.
I totally understand why you invested in this company. Not only is their product just fantastic, but the entire team seem to be lovely and really good on camera. Nice!
Watching the saga of Framework unfold since their announcement has been everything I hoped it would be! If they continue this extraordinary user-friendly/focused design philosophy, they will have customers for life.
Wow, in the current landscape of laptops with soldered in SSD, RAM and crippled ports, this is the first one that genuinely makes me want to upgrade (from my late 2017 Spectre x360)
Using the framework coolmaster thing with a projector to be a home theater would be a sick way to use it. So much power and versatility in a thin and light package
I bet the 3D printing community is going to go nuts over the coolermaster case with it's built in brackets (if they haven't already just been designing motherboard cases already)
@@whocares3132 lol that's sooooo much better than what other laptops have, which is either nothing, or some repair worker's video on how to take the machine apart. Also, when I took my laptop apart to change out the horrible stock thermal paste, the thermal putty that was supposed to be on the VRAM and VRM + chokes weren't even applied properly, with some of them not have any on them at all, and some having way too much applied. I had to fix all of that...
actually with linus doing it yolo style, it can trigger framework's ux team to be creative with their design so their product can actually be foolproof someday
@@ydna yeah acrylic gets oxidized over time, and high temperature speed up the process (the oxidation also changes the color of the acrylic to yellow or pale brown)
This was so much fun. I love these interactions. Cool and passionate people enjoying themselves with what they do best. Oh, and Linus as well. He's allright.
It's not that the audience likes seeing you taken down a peg, it's that we enjoy you being on our level. Even since your NCIX days it was felt more like you were one of us, rather than 'just a host' doing a job. :)
you can actually tell this CEO has seen a lot of feedback about how things go can get messed up. and that gives me a lot of confidence that they can actually make repairable devices work long term
That's my biggest concern: After a couple of years, old boards are "outdated" and you can't buy cases for them anymore. Then you might have to buy a complete new system.
Most frustrating thing about laptops in my experience has always been how quickly they fall behind without the ability to truly upgrade. So this is really nice to see.
Something like this absolutely should be the new legal standard for products. As someone who likes to tinker and upgrade my own stuff, this is so much better than fighting with some proprietary BS you can't get parts for.
This just got me even more excited about buying one. Seeing the team there and just watching the interaction between Linus and Nirav shows that Nirav is a pretty down to earth guy who is really excited about what he is doing. Who knows what the future holds when the company gets bigger, but right now I want to be part of it.
of all tech investments i've seen, this is probably the most exciting! it's great seeing updates and exclusives, and the CEO of Framework genuinely knows his stuff, which obviously helps. his team seem great too :D
The CEO of Framework gives such great vibes! Would love to see him again the next time something big is coming to Framework! Kudos to the team, and the coolermaster case for the motherboard is sleek! So happy for all of this!
I always loved the Framework concept, but adopted a "wait and see" approach. Seeing more of the little details, and actually seeing this upgrade happen for real, I'm honestly really impressed. And that case is sick to boot. Seeing the modules with labels is awesome.
I bought a 12th gen framework to replace my 10 year old toshiba with a 3rd gen i7 earlier this year. It is actually everything I hoped it would be. No regrets.
Nirav. Your doing a good job with your product. The way your showing care for it as you don't want him to break it is a great example of the amount of work and care you have put into the laptop
The team and the ceo are just awesome. My next laptop will so be a framework. The price is good and i just love the concept that you can build your own laptop yourself. Not even to replace the parts down the line just great. This is a company and a cause i want to support.
This was so much fun - just as all the other Framework videos. You can really tell that everyone involved is absolutely excited and passionate about it.
PLEASE do more videos with Framework; such a fun video & it's super nice to have Linus be almost a sort of check & balance to Framework (the company). If I purchase a laptop it will 100% be a Framework laptop, & almost purely because Linus & the LTT staff have shown what a great company they actually are.
Damn, I don't think I've been this excited by anything in tech in the last couple of years as right now. I really hope Framework stays on the right path and continues to improve
I am very happy Nirav is here guiding Linus. Because as much as I enjoyed Linus's 11th-12th gen Framework update video, I did feel his no-instructions yolo approach did make it look more difficult than it actually is, which I think may have done Framework a bit of a disservice
I was thinking this exact same thing, I also think when reviewers bjy and showcase the laptop as a self reparable device, it tunes some people out, you don't have to do it yourself - for people who are total noobs. They can just go to the service centre and get it done.
To bad it's far less profitable (otherwise they would already do it). We have to force them, because our economic system is fundamentally incapable of sustainability :(
The most impressive thing about the CEO, isn't that he knows the hardware and keeps cool, it's that he was able to realise in a tense situation that Linus wouldn't be able to login with his pin. To be able to focus on presenting, listening to Linus, and still give thought to it is super impressive.
I'm rooting for this company with all my heart! I love modular laptops I like PCs but I never have the money nor the stability to own them I have a Lenovo thinkpad now and I'm looking forward for this company to grow even bigger
For 10 ten years watching linus. I've just love how Linus's partners try to make Linus not screw everything on his own videos up but usually fail and it make his video so alive and make me love it. It's great guys, please try harder next time or just let Anthony do it.
Framework is really making me wish I needed a new laptop. Too bad I got mine before they started. Hopefully enough people see them and keep supporting them.
@@qtsssim Nothing is stopping you from buying a mainboard + case, but they are significantly more expensive than a regular pc, longer lead times and less availability. Just get a NUC at that point, since that is essentially what you're converting the old laptop main boards to
I love these framework laptops and the fact they specifically design their boards to be repurposed into a desktop unit. More brands need to adopt this mindset
Other way around: A chassis was built to house the board. Plenty of boards, past and present, can be run similarly. A neater trick would be to repurpose the internal VGA connector.
Wow what a video, hardware CEO really knowing its product, very entertaining video too. Quality content. Now with that CM case, super excited for FW reusability.
thats like what steve jobs said about a great company. That people knows what they’re doing is in charged, when the company expands the marketing people take charge and you see the quality fails.
I love that external case in collab with cooler master, so cool to be able to reuse parts as a computer that thin! The CEO and team are so cool and I am seriously rooting for their success. you can just feel their passion for their products and belief in this for the future
A framework printer would be amazing! The current printer market is aimed at predatorial marketing tactics, where every ink cartridge is super expensive and proprietary to a single printer. Having framework's philosophy applied to one would be just what is needed in this printer scene
Everyone talking about how they love the fact that the CEO knows everything about the product - of course he does. Framework is a small tiny underdog, the CEO wears many, many hats. He said it himself that he's built thousands of units himself. Possibly a huge amount of pre-production and prototype units with a small lean team. All big companies start like that. It's a sign of a very involved and invested CEO.
This was great. Very informative, good news in general, and the Framework team was fantastic on camera! You did good too, Linus, at making that poor guy sweat. 🙂
@@Gay-is-_-trash Scam?!? Jesus Christ man, anyone who knows _anything_ at all about the laptop OEM space can recognize just how _INCREDIBLE_ an effort this is. Plus they let someone do a messy live demo in the middle of the Computex floor _months_ before the product ships. Anyone who reads this, this guy is the epitome of haterdom. Proceed to ignore the shit out of him like I'm going to from now on.
@@Gay-is-_-trash scam? Source? Or just a shill for other brands? Edit: looking at your comment history, you're going to every AMD related video and talking trash. You're an Intel ultra fanboy. I'm sorry you feel like that. As an active user of both sides, they're both fantastic in their own ways.
Love to see Framework's concept being expanded to a true modern ubiquitous computing standard! Excited for the 16 for GPU acceleration, and excited to start attaching Framework computers to all my screens!!!!
I guess this video was a win for framework and Nirav. He really knows everything about the product and I love it. I can absolutely feel the part about the hard work and the process of building credibility.
I wish we could get more Nirav more often. His presence is excellent and the way he can throw those metaphorical punches back and forth with Linus is super funny. Perhaps a regular-ish LTTxFramework segment should be brainstormed if it hasn't already.
Best collab of all time. Love their banter and the actual laptop is insanely cool. I'm still waiting for the right moment, but my next laptop will almost certainly be a Framework laptop.
Nirav and team thank you for a great product. I built one for my wife last year. Loaded it and haven't hear of one peep of it being a problem. Bravo. She is a tough user and usually crushes things in software or hardware bugs. Like our chrome book that crashed. Keep up the good work
We definitely need more of this. I have like 6 laptops that i cannot use and it's just e-waste at this point. Imagine being able to use the old boards as a server or something. I sincerely hope this company succeeds and I can order it from the Philippines in the future.
An official framework surface touch / tablet would be an amazing addition. As someone who uses their laptop keyboard only when traveling, I'm just waiting for the touchscreens to arrive before making the plunge. With the VESA mount , even the cooler master can be a portable AIO. Can't wait to see where framework takes this.
I love the framework concept and I will definitely continue to watch this company develop. I hope to have a badass framework laptop with upgradable gpu/cpu's! someday soon!
This makes a lot of sense if they provide support comparable to Lenovo or Dell for their business customers. Imagine the low maintenance and upgradation costs. Especially during the 3-4 year corporate laptop replacement cycle. They would just need to replace the motherboard and BOOM, its new again.
@@frozenfire72 also we have laptops with French and international layout. So we have many spare laptops with both layouts. With framework, we would need less laptops, just spare keyboards (then we could have more exotic ones too)
This is amazing. I looked into the forums and stuff, and really love the community around Framework! In fact, I’ve just preordered my AMD 7840U Framework laptop in Australia! Comes in Q4!
21:07 Yes! I would love a printer that: doesn't use color ink when printing black and white, let's me print black and white without color ink, actually works for more than a month, and has reasonable prices for ink cartridges!
I've had one for a bit more than a year now, and I can recommend them - knowing that you can isolate damage to individual parts and significantly reduce your repair effort is really satisfying.
Imagine a CEO being so knowledgeable about the product that he can point out the most niche things such as routing channels in his product. Its a breath of fresh air. Its helps that he has such a nice case presence.
If you look, right after he says he's built a few thousand of them, Linus has a visible reaction before the cut. Pretty sure Linus was about to ask him "holy shit, you actually work assembly too?!"
like lisa su ?, jensen ? almost all tech ceo know their product
Most, small company CEOs own their product. It’s where they started so it makes sense that they know their stuff. If it were a company like Microsoft or Google, I doubt their latest CEOs could tell you a thing or two about their OS or their browser and how it works.
@@wahdangun they know, but something niche like routing channels? nope.
@@wahdangun I can honestly say... Nope to that. You'd be surprised. It's actually scary really.
Just the fact that Framework is coming out with a second generation of products and is meaningfully expanding their accessory line is a huge sign of success compared to a lot of other similar startups. Kudos to those folks, I really think their success would be a good thing for the laptop ecosystem.
And it's having a collaboration with other brand, big brand in this industry like cooler master
Yeah, i was very sceptical considering the fate of similar modular phone companies
Yeah how many "modular" or "upgradeable" product lines have companies far bigger and more mature than these guys produced? Basically none of them ever got more than one or two lame modules and "upgradeable" laptops universally NEVER got any upgrades (remember MXM?). But these guys seem to genuinely be making it happens and I love that
man I love the CEO of Framework. He seem so chill and can actually throw punches back at Linus. It's really enjoyable to see!
Investors are companys biggest enemy... They are the main reason why you have bugs in games, software and hardware... why?
Because they see a screen working, you tell them hey its not ready we still need time yada yaa... they still force you to publish/release..
@@ahmadmuraish1144 It's a 2-way street. Investors have to keep the pressure up to make sure something is actually produced. No customer or investor will wait forever if the product gets stuck in development hell.
Plus he gets the team to deliver and knows how to assemble his own products. You don’t get many managers that can do that let alone a CEO at executive level
I agree, I mean obviously this is all promotional. But at least they seem to be aware of what LTT is doing, probably watch their videos and understand the context of it all. Which is pretty rare to see for most companies even, even more for CEO's.
With other companies they often seem so out of touch with even their own products.
I actually met him while he was filming this video, very chill dude and explains stuff clearly. got a selfie with him too lol
I think the thing I love most about this - The CEO knows EVERYTHING about the laptop, every light, screw, and fixing. That's really cool to see!
He is also the founder, so would expect him to know everything. The company is also ~40 people. At that size, you still can know everything.
he said in the video that he build few thousand of them 5'52
A CEO that ISN'T a bigwig in an office somewhere completely disconnected from the company and it's products
@@VoicesInDark If Elon can get the title of "Founder" from a lawsuit for just being one of the first investors, that should tell you a "founder" doesn't need to know shit of a product.
@@G.Padilla man a laptop company of 40 people aint comparable to someone having 4+ companies with 1000s of employees
I like how he's not just the CEO, he actually understands his company's product and is genuinely excited about it!
Weird to think a lot of CEOs are lacking in the department
@@m_e_nere To be fair, Framework only has roughly two products :)
But in this case, isn't the CEO also the founder? Never seen a founder who wasn't excited about their product. :)
Last time I've seen a CEO this close to their product was probably Eric Migicovsky and Pebble. I'm rooting for the Framework team to make the dream work! Also as soon they release the touchscreen + active pen input version, I'm switching to them.
@@RandomUser2401 You may dislike them, but many (myself included) would enjoy at least one more.
@@RandomUser2401 You came here, to this comment to say that? You're starving for attention huh?
Gotta say how impressive it is that the Framework CEO knew every part of that machine, and how he kept his cool watching Linus touch his baby. You can tell guy seriously loves that machine and cares about it being done right.
he also has pretty darn good screen presence for someone who is clearly not a presenter type person.
Above and beyond Linus investing monitarily, the exposure on the channel is priceless, he would be a fool not to utilize the audience the collaboration offers, that said it was an enjoyable watch.
It's kinda like every massive tech giant.. starts with engineers making stuff thats great to making profits... Hopefully LTT & Framework never go down that road.
When engineers (or generaly people passionate about the product) are in charge, companies can make some truely amazing things..
When they sell to investors (privately or going public), that has a tendency to change things over time.
@@si2foo To get to that CEO position he needed a bit of charisma too.
There's a world of difference between CEO of private companies and CEOs of publicly-traded companies... the publicly-traded company ones are basically just figureheads put in place to do the bidding of Goldman Sachs and to collect gigantic paychecks as a signal to investors that the company is doing well. One of the things I like about AMD is that because they spent so long getting almost bankrupted by those "professional" CEOs that eventually they were willing to actually hand the company over to an actual engineer (Dr. Su) in an act of desperation. Since she is a PhD-bearing engineer and business is one of the simplest topics in the universe in comparison, she just had to spend like a weekend learning about business stuff and then was able to immediately reorient the company to actually center around engineering excellence and boom, took off like a rocket. I imagine by now she's probably having to get into knife-fights with bankers to keep out the parasite MBAs who would want to get in and start slashing and burning for tiny short term gains at the expense of long-term corporate survival (those types of CEOs hop from company to company every 3-4 years, so they're fine with cutting a throat that won't bleed out for 10).
Esther did a great job, I hope she gets great feedback from her coworkers and peers, and allows herself to feel more confident doing similar things in future.
She really did you can tell she got more comfortable as time went on which is pretty normal. Happy she did so well
was gonna say the same thing. like the parent comment so linus / she sees it
What is a world exclusive
she is not going to fuck you dude
Dont know who esther is
I'm not seeing nearly enough love for the cooler master rep. She got on video out of nowhere and kept her cool and did her best to explain everything. Just the fact that she didn't think she would have to talk tells you she was 110% nervous about it.
Do you see any review at LTT comparing any cooler master HSF ? A chart even ! I really wonder what's up - or what isn't - with LTT and cooler master. I mean ... probably noctua has some partnership with LTT that leaves cooler master out. Probably ...
She doesn't represent cooler master. She's on product design team of framework.
Why Coolermaster and not Coolermiss? :P
@@alpine9214 The feminine of master is mistress.
I am a little bit in love maybe
This whole concept fills me with joy. Upgrading a LAPTOP??? Changing its PLATFORM??? We need MORE of this!!!
this could be better if they had a steamdeck like case too i know its a small company but think its not that hard to do it if they show something like that probably they will got more investment.
@@edussantoz9034 they need to focus their development efforts or else they wouldn't finish them in time.
I didn't even know there was such a thing until I saw this video. I'm getting one!
I agree. This is the blueprint for success.
You want more of that? Oh you'll get it.. at a price.
Nirav is a boss and it was hilarious watching how visually uncomfortable he was with Linus just doing a full senderino on his life's work.
Yeah he was clearly under tension when the system was booting :D
...do you watch Jimmy Broadbent by any chance?
boss? paid actor?
Nirav Patel seems like a really nice guy, the dynamic between him and Linus is great.
When two passionate tech heads are together, the bond is awesome 😅
Right! This parent and son chemistry is really fun to watch. Linus also, in my opinion, is really passionate in this kind of Framework topic videos. His demeanor is more lively and entertaining compared to his usual appearance on the other videos.
Keep making video like this please.
yeah, they seem like really good friends lol, i love it
Patel's are cute
@@rohitanshukhilar1904 knew a Patel once. She had some major Indian Mother energy. Fun as hell though. Laughed every time I greeted her in Hindi lol
Man we need more Nirav! He seems like a CEO I'd actually want to work for, someone who really knows his product. Super excited to see Framework continuing to kick ass. They deserve it.
Nirav has clearly built a great team too.
Esther nailed it with both the design of the case & having amazing presence alongside Linus.
The chemistry between the two of them is great.
Kudos to the lady as well. She did well without being prepared.
She was great!
@@lordadamfirst and suuuuper cute. What is does she does as an Industrial Design ? Did she designed that case ?
AMD is junk trash
She was the best part of the video.
When she takes over the case from linis to put the base of the case is gold... Linus met his rival
It's settled for me. When my laptop dies, and Framework sells to my country, I'm buying it!
This video showed the team excitement, that we already saw previously on the actual product design and care. Bravo!
Esther was also awesome, and I praise Coolermaster for this good collab!
I will be too. Framework seems to be the next step in computing. We can forget these large companies such as Dell and HP which sell restricted machines which you cannot customise to fit your own needs.
Same here
Loved her accent.👍
@R Hamlet so its weird to compliment people?
Probably the same. My cheap $200 Dell Latitude 7490 from eBay is still pretty solid, but in a couple of yearls I'll definitely be replacing it.
Hopefully it all works out for them.
Looking forward to the 16" model. Having an expandable bay for an external GPU, more drives, or a removable battery is a game changer.
Also having six IO ports instead of four gives tons of options.
The desktop case supporting VESA mounts is massive. They've effectively entered the all in one market with just developing a new PC case.
My nuc came with a bracket for attaching it to a vesa mount
It's great. Whats missing for me is an expernal power button that you can add somewhere to your monitor. I'm not crawling behind the monitor everytime I want to turn it on.
@@geyoda64 there is someone who made a board you can attach to the input connector so to which you can solder a power button, usb 2.0 and some software controlled leds.
Google "Framework Mainboard Power Button Shim"
@@AltonV True, but that was purposely build to be on a monitor, as the whole concept of mini pc's was to have it directly on the monitor. This here from Framework and Cooler Master is a "byproduct" that came to life because you can purposely re-use your old MB, when you're upgrading, to even further support the idea of limiting E-waste. 🙂
@@ReaperSilently no it wasn't purposely built to be on a monitor, they just included the option for it to be.
This is a skull canyon to be precise
I like how Esther went from not wanting to be on camera to handling Linus like a pro in no time.
@qtsssim no, it's about just naturally becoming god at something you didn't even know was possible.
Linus is used to having beautiful Asian women bossing him around 😂
women have a way around children
gotem
@@guaiqueritech yea I have a feeling linus's wife isn't too happy about his interaction with her... lol
@@tra-viskaiser8737 nah they seem to have enough mutual trust to allow their partner to... interact with people they may find attractive.
Its crazy to think how much the laptop space has changed with AMD efficiency and can continue to change with Frameworks upgradability.
AMD is junk
@@Gay-is-_-trash cry more
@@Gay-is-_-trash I didn't realize your mom's name is AMD
dude i got an r5 5500u and it easily beats my mate's i7 1135g7 while being 25% cheaper, it's nuts and battery life has been amazing
@@StemLG Nobody believes you.
This is sick, I’m glad this didn’t abandon first adopters like other manufacturers always do!
I would be happy and fine if they did abandon the first adopters. I know a project like this is super-difficult and complicated, and in the process many things have changed and improved. I am willing to let a company like this off-the-hook because they deserve it.
But not the huge established corporations which promise something just to break it shortly after.
If anything, I would be happy to see them get a lot of things right and start a "FrameWorks 2.0" platform. And when they are successful ($100 Million valuation) that they can always come back and reward their first adopters with a free laptop or something. Something like that used to be super-common in the 1980s startup scene. But the past 20 Years it's been companies trying to be super competitive in pleasing shareholders.
@@ekinteko I think their 2.0 platform would be the 16 inch model.
@@ekinteko Shareholders should not have the same power as the customers that keep companies alive long-term. Like straight up
The Framework guy seems genuinely nice, and the collab with Cooler Master is such a smart thing to do.
Because that is the CEO of Framework himself.
Esther did a great job dealing with Linus's craziness, showing off the product, and doing great on camera. Even though she is obviously not as comfortable in front of a camera as Linus, she did a fantastic job!
Honestly i dont think she was fased by the camera but by linus, hes so damn rough with everything i love it, but you could see the anxiety building as he messed things up
@@perfor5376 She would probably be more comfortable with Dave2D
@@trento7183 100%, love them both, but feels like dave2d is more like a uncle or one of the dad’s friend, you know, gentle. Friendly, knowledgeable and just calm
Props to Nirav (Frameworks CEO), knowledgeable and good on camera and seeing Linux handle your beta version delicate hardware must be hard haha.
Props to Esther, definitely sounded like she wasn't aware she'd be on camera at all and possibly not confident in her English but she did great.
Framework is the only company that actually seems to take this concept of reparability and upgradability for a mobile device seriously. I hope it takes off like crazy and they'll tackle other market segments.
Corporations are already planning on how to make them NOT take off like crazy.
@@SIGJNFof course they are and i hate that honestly
I love the idea that your laptop parts can be upgraded and then use the older parts for a server.
The HW they offer, so the specs, are top notch, better than Lenovo's T14 series - if the built quality is good it's also an absolute bargain - they could sell for 20% more easily and justify it that u don't need to buy a while new laptop next time and save $ buy just replacing the Mainboard - I really hope they don't get a buy-out and then killed off " for safety reasons"
@Garrus Vakarian Smert, and reeally pretty.
The thing i love the most is a CEO who knows hows their product works to an insane detail. I am excited for my laptop to come in the second batch.
That happens when you're a real startup founder. You start a company to do something you know how to achieve, at least roughly. Instead of just getting investors money and hope people you hire in the future will figure it all out.
@@li_tsz_fung He said it himself, "I've built thousands of them"
If often starts like that.....
@@cederian thats crazy hahaha sooo exited to see future with the company
For sure. In fact if you look at Frameworks repair and upgrade guides, the vast majority of them are written by the CEO himself.
I feel like these framework laptops are a big middle finger to large tech companies that restrict our ability to repair and modify the products we buy from them. I like it.
those spare screws were especially middle fingers to them
Bet you’re lookin’ at Apple huh
@@darkside6450 Not just Apple. HP are one of those culprits. Locking down wifi cards to what they sell.
@@MahaXad HP also for printers, firmware update that if you use non original ink/toners, printer doesn’t work.
I really hope they become widespread, at least as a hip premium option to ultrabooks. I hope some day these are sold worldwide and not only in developed countries.
you guys are like siblings fighting!
love it!
And to Nirav - hats off to a CEO who actually knows the stuff he is selling so thoroughly.
It is awesome to see a tech CEO who ACTUALLY knows the ins and outs of their own products!
Wholeheartedly agreed!
nah not that pfp
IDK but I always supposed that when someone is CEO, he ought to know every thing his company does bcs he like... Build it and stuff. Am I naive and stupid?
@@WryNose yes, sadly so. Chieve Executive Officer (CEO) isnt "Founder". Companies with a board sometimes change through CEO's like i change my underwear: maybe once a year. There are even companies BUYING a certain CEO in hopes of him getting it back on its feet.
@@WryNose CEOs are usually just the guys who are good at business. They don't know technical stuff, they hire other people for that.
The dynamic of linus ripping apart his computer like a monkey while nirav stands there in horror is priceless, I hope to see more videos involving this paring in the future. You can tell how badly nirav wants to do the upgrade himself. Its giving a strong "for tinkerers by tinkerers" vibe.
I was actually a little disappointed that Linus didn't drop the motherboard and break it!
I actually agree with their choice to not include wifi and audio stuff. If you have a compatible bit from elsewhere or if you’re taking a full laptop and desktop-ifying it (not keeping the laptop working) that reduces e-waste. I think they should say what you will need in addition to a motherboard when buying it so that someone isn’t blindsided.
You may not even need it. A lot of people probably have some old USB sound card lying around that came with some headphones or phone or who knows what. I know I’ve accumulated several over the years, and even the ones from like 15 years ago still do the basic job of USB in, 3.5mm out.
I agree, you might have busted up your screen and your repurposing the working parts into a desktop or headless machine. Or if your making a homeassistant server or similar, you don't need audio on it at all, and you'd want the 2.5GbE NIC instead of a WiFi NIC anyway.
So do I. There will be bigger chance of those who don't need them and it would just produce more potential e-waste if it is included in the default package.
Yeah. Just a little warning pop up or something should be just fine.
Giving people exactly what they may want and nothing extra that may go in the bin is the aim fo the entire operation. So it is a good decision
Yup, I would just add a Hidiz S9pro (2.5mm or 3.5mm audio) or a SoundBlaster for a box like that.
You did great Ester!
That was a lot of pressure to be put under all of a sudden but you did a great job.
Love the framework guys and gals, always nice to hear from the people actually making the product.
I really hope this becomes popular and sticks around. We need our modularity back on laptops
Sure! Until some Trillion dollars buy it for a Billion dollars and kill it.
Agreed! I miss the old days of being able to add and remove things from laptops and other devices.
Even more so than that Alienware Area 51m laptop.
More to the point, we need AFFORDABLE replacement parts for laptops.
Do you also remember the prices of MXM GPU's back then?
Horribly overpriced for not a good increase in performance (it was either cheaper or would cost the same to just get a brand new laptop with modern dGPU).
Personally, I use mostly 17" laptops. I like the bigger size and the power it can provide... and because I like portability and doing content creation/productivity on the go, I don't mind lugging a bigger laptop with me (its not that heavy).
Well, not gonna happen if they're only selling on one side of the world.
All of Linus's Framework videos are seriously the best marketing Framework could possibly ask for. The number of new laptops they're gonna sell after this video is probably pretty significant.
Yep. I had heard whispers of FW but after seeing a few of the LTT videos I was all in and ordered one.
I'm eyeing one of those laptops!!!
if i had a better paying job, i'd buy a laptop, it honestly is the best one imo because of its upgradability and access to replacement parts
I can only fully agree with you
Only thing I am waiting for is time to check all the specs later on
I think Framework is making the right call with not including anything with at least the base Cooler Master case. Less waste from things people don't need, but it'd be a good idea to be able to add some modules to their case purchase as packages (if they don't already)
Exactly, for server use we don't need wifi or audio
@@Will-sc3hw this, but also, for upgrading the case (like in the video), you’ll likely already those modules, and there’s no reason to pay for another one
@@aarond309 Yes and no. If you’re going the full upgrade path that Linus is showing - you have those modules but you still want/need them for your laptop. So additional modules will be necessary if you need that functionality in your re-deployment of the old board.
You can always buy more modules if you want them, but if they're added by default and not wanted they would be waste, which I understand is against the philosophy of the whole project.
@@phyphor Seems to me that the solution would be to include some modules, but allow the user to select which ones they need included when they order it.
Love how the CEO has SO MUCH knowledge about each and every aspect of the product even down to how the fan pipes are different between each board, what the debugging lights do, etc. That's impossible for someone who doesn't have passion for what he does ❤
Shows how CEOs need not be all business-ey all the time.
As a CEO (and also maybe the founder) of startup, they usually manages almost everything, till company get big enough and more specialized person come in to manage each part of business process. He maybe eventually will change his position to more suitable for his capabilities/passion when the times come. Like how LTT now. Linus step aside his position as CEO
so he can focus on what he can do the best and let CEO manage the business
if the ceo is also the founder then yes they ave to be into the business field no matter what it's in like 80% other than that the founder is rich and really rarely duinno about something and jumping for pure hype normally wealthy investors will buy small business better than founding from 0
I absolutely adore the concept, the CEO, and the results they've shown so far. Hits all my wishes for reuse, smart design, and great user experience. I hope and pray they keep growing until I can buy one!
Framework really is changing the game regarding upgradable PCs. But yeah, Linus’ previous attempt at upgrading the GPU of his laptop seemed like it was painful for the employees.
I believe you meant CPU, but mainboard/logic board wouldbe more accurate.
They're not doing anything new, they just haven't abandoned it after 1-2 generations, which shouldn't be amazing but is
he upgraded the whole MOBO not just a GPU, new cup, everything.
@@daniwalmsley611 oooo a pessimistic viewpoint
AMD is junk, garbage
I bet that AMD chip gave him a virus
F*cking stop with the pride sht. It's disgusting
I'm wondering if HP, Dell or Lenovo's CEOs are able to even upgrade their SSDs. Framework's CEO knows everything about his creation. Mad respect.
It's also is basically 2 CEO's bantering which each other that are passionate about products
They are not paid to know that and they serve industries far beyond little gamer laptops lol
@@England91 does Linus even count as a CEO at this point?
@@leonro yes, because he steps down in a month
What we do know for sure is that Apple's CEO can't upgrade the SSD in his MacBook, because it's glued together, and the SSD cannot be accessed.
Honestly, if they maintained their current ethos in designing a printer, I'd buy that in a heartbeat, as well as one for my mom and one for each of my closest friends. I would honestly throw my money at them for it.
for printer its hard bcs the big ink hold their own patents and dont sell module/parts like amd/skhynic and co.
@@fltfathin100% agree. my hp printer was cheaper than the ink 💀
@@fltfathintrue. Even the chinese still cant make their own printer i wonder why
Considering what HP's been doing with their Printers, they should be forced to stop making printers and give their patents and other crap to Framework
OK, I was skeptical. Beyond skeptical. I said it was a solution looking for a problem. I was wrong. Being able to swap out and turn the old "computer" into a new computer is a game changer. Excellent stuff.
Raspberry pie? Eat your heart out!
@@wojtek-33 My thought is enterprises. Companies can move an employee’s machine into a less-damaged shell or upgrade their existing shell without throwing away the existing one. Even it timespan of less than 5yr mere repairability is worth it.
@@wojtek-33 A lot of companies would love stuff like this. For a personal user i think it depends on where you are from a lot and also your use case.
@@wojtek-33 for me a key consideration is that I don't necessarily need to be the one reusing this. I have plenty of family members that would be happy with something like an Intel NUC and this would work for them as a primary PC in the cooler master case.
Plus 11th gen Intel running Linux is a lot more powerful for running stuff that people would often push to a raspberry pi.
@@wojtek-33 thought about repair ability?. What if your usb-c breaks?. Internal display cable goes out etc etc.. with this its an easy swap. Its so much more then just upgrade a mainboard.
I totally understand why you invested in this company. Not only is their product just fantastic, but the entire team seem to be lovely and really good on camera. Nice!
Yes, he totally knew that before...
Watching the saga of Framework unfold since their announcement has been everything I hoped it would be! If they continue this extraordinary user-friendly/focused design philosophy, they will have customers for life.
Wow, in the current landscape of laptops with soldered in SSD, RAM and crippled ports, this is the first one that genuinely makes me want to upgrade (from my late 2017 Spectre x360)
Plus the industry does things like glued batteries and screens etc. Everything on the framework is modular really by comparison.
Using the framework coolmaster thing with a projector to be a home theater would be a sick way to use it. So much power and versatility in a thin and light package
I bet the 3D printing community is going to go nuts over the coolermaster case with it's built in brackets (if they haven't already just been designing motherboard cases already)
I mean at that point just use an android tv box
@@madmanmax120 Framework themselves provides a model to print your own case
@JohnWalz97 the thing is that all of those android tv boxes from china are full of malware and spyware
@@JohnWalz97 android tv box?
didnt they said few weeks ago, they are not safe?
Linus working as hard as he can to prove Framework is "foolproof"
it is not foolprof they have sequential instructions in their website you will have to follow it.
@@whocares3132 lol that's sooooo much better than what other laptops have, which is either nothing, or some repair worker's video on how to take the machine apart.
Also, when I took my laptop apart to change out the horrible stock thermal paste, the thermal putty that was supposed to be on the VRAM and VRM + chokes weren't even applied properly, with some of them not have any on them at all, and some having way too much applied. I had to fix all of that...
actually with linus doing it yolo style, it can trigger framework's ux team to be creative with their design so their product can actually be foolproof someday
I love that they made the top of the case translucent. We should bring back more see-through electronics.
We should bring back the option to have one or the other. Is there any gaming desktop that doesn't have a glass window?
only minor problem is that cast acrylic is kinda fragile, it gets brittle after a few years. Just have to be a little more careful with that stuff.
My clear purple Game Boy still looks good!
@@ydna yeah acrylic gets oxidized over time, and high temperature speed up the process (the oxidation also changes the color of the acrylic to yellow or pale brown)
Brings back memories of older days, but still looks cool. With the right material, I don't see why not
This was so much fun. I love these interactions. Cool and passionate people enjoying themselves with what they do best. Oh, and Linus as well. He's allright.
It's not that the audience likes seeing you taken down a peg, it's that we enjoy you being on our level. Even since your NCIX days it was felt more like you were one of us, rather than 'just a host' doing a job. :)
Linus is a stakeholder (part owner) of Framework. It's a friendly video but he's definitely not a "regular guy" here lol.
This comment deserves more attention!
Nirav has clearly been taking notes from DBrand on how to foster a memorable working relationship with Linus
1000000% this. It’s because Linus makes it feel like he’s one of the regular pc builders is why this channel is so amazing.
No we never felt that. Only the weirdest of nerds.
you can actually tell this CEO has seen a lot of feedback about how things go can get messed up. and that gives me a lot of confidence that they can actually make repairable devices work long term
That's my biggest concern: After a couple of years, old boards are "outdated" and you can't buy cases for them anymore. Then you might have to buy a complete new system.
i absolutely love this! both the relationship and the idea of framework. this live showcase is fantastic! I want more FRAMEWORK!
That Framework team supporting him was awesome
We need more Framework videos, their products are amazing, and Nirav is mopping the floor with every other CEO.
Every other CEO: ✍️know your product ✅.✍️don’t be a sociopath❌.
Most frustrating thing about laptops in my experience has always been how quickly they fall behind without the ability to truly upgrade. So this is really nice to see.
Something like this absolutely should be the new legal standard for products. As someone who likes to tinker and upgrade my own stuff, this is so much better than fighting with some proprietary BS you can't get parts for.
This just got me even more excited about buying one. Seeing the team there and just watching the interaction between Linus and Nirav shows that Nirav is a pretty down to earth guy who is really excited about what he is doing. Who knows what the future holds when the company gets bigger, but right now I want to be part of it.
Props to Esther! She did great! Hell, the whole team did great!
of all tech investments i've seen, this is probably the most exciting! it's great seeing updates and exclusives, and the CEO of Framework genuinely knows his stuff, which obviously helps. his team seem great too :D
The CEO of Framework gives such great vibes! Would love to see him again the next time something big is coming to Framework! Kudos to the team, and the coolermaster case for the motherboard is sleek! So happy for all of this!
CEO had me dying, the stress and joy in his face. He was amazing!
I always loved the Framework concept, but adopted a "wait and see" approach. Seeing more of the little details, and actually seeing this upgrade happen for real, I'm honestly really impressed.
And that case is sick to boot. Seeing the modules with labels is awesome.
I'm running Debian on a 12th gen Framework. Couldn't be happier. The forums took care of a few odd compatibility issues.
Get one!
I bought a 12th gen framework to replace my 10 year old toshiba with a 3rd gen i7 earlier this year. It is actually everything I hoped it would be. No regrets.
Same here! 🎉
Running pop!_OS on an 11th gen Framework, and it's been a wonderful experience! Can't wait to try out AMD and the 16".
Nirav. Your doing a good job with your product. The way your showing care for it as you don't want him to break it is a great example of the amount of work and care you have put into the laptop
The team and the ceo are just awesome. My next laptop will so be a framework. The price is good and i just love the concept that you can build your own laptop yourself. Not even to replace the parts down the line just great. This is a company and a cause i want to support.
That framework/coolermaster case thing is an insanely cool idea!
It all just makes sense, and I love it!
Other than some spacing, you can also stack them up to mark a farm.
This was so much fun - just as all the other Framework videos. You can really tell that everyone involved is absolutely excited and passionate about it.
PLEASE do more videos with Framework; such a fun video & it's super nice to have Linus be almost a sort of check & balance to Framework (the company). If I purchase a laptop it will 100% be a Framework laptop, & almost purely because Linus & the LTT staff have shown what a great company they actually are.
Damn, I don't think I've been this excited by anything in tech in the last couple of years as right now. I really hope Framework stays on the right path and continues to improve
I am very happy Nirav is here guiding Linus. Because as much as I enjoyed Linus's 11th-12th gen Framework update video, I did feel his no-instructions yolo approach did make it look more difficult than it actually is, which I think may have done Framework a bit of a disservice
I was thinking this exact same thing, I also think when reviewers bjy and showcase the laptop as a self reparable device, it tunes some people out, you don't have to do it yourself - for people who are total noobs. They can just go to the service centre and get it done.
This is incredible. This must become the future all companies strive to reach in terms of repairability and modularity..
To bad it's far less profitable (otherwise they would already do it). We have to force them, because our economic system is fundamentally incapable of sustainability :(
The most impressive thing about the CEO, isn't that he knows the hardware and keeps cool, it's that he was able to realise in a tense situation that Linus wouldn't be able to login with his pin. To be able to focus on presenting, listening to Linus, and still give thought to it is super impressive.
Just maintainer PvP MLB non not to
I'm rooting for this company with all my heart!
I love modular laptops
I like PCs but I never have the money nor the stability to own them
I have a Lenovo thinkpad now and I'm looking forward for this company to grow even bigger
For 10 ten years watching linus. I've just love how Linus's partners try to make Linus not screw everything on his own videos up but usually fail and it make his video so alive and make me love it. It's great guys, please try harder next time or just let Anthony do it.
*Emily
@@zeyaadpetersen659 no its anthony
@@BonzaELTesto No, it's Emily now, and we will respect her decisions
@@Ash-qp2yw he
This video shows how far the big manufacturers are behind the innovation curve.
Love the rapport between them too!
The chemistry of Linus and the Framework's CEO is something that I wasn't expecting
This might be my favorite LTT video ever. The Coolermaster and Framework folks were all great.
Framework is really making me wish I needed a new laptop. Too bad I got mine before they started. Hopefully enough people see them and keep supporting them.
Framework has so much potential It'll be great to see them go very mainstream.
They're already quite mainstream. Even some of my friends who aren't super techy are planning to have a Framework laptop as their next laptop.
Love frameworks dedication to keeping their electronics out of the landfill.
I love the fact that you can keep the old components and turn them into a spare computer. This feature sold me on this as my next laptop.
@@qtsssim Nothing is stopping you from buying a mainboard + case, but they are significantly more expensive than a regular pc, longer lead times and less availability.
Just get a NUC at that point, since that is essentially what you're converting the old laptop main boards to
I love these framework laptops and the fact they specifically design their boards to be repurposed into a desktop unit. More brands need to adopt this mindset
Other way around: A chassis was built to house the board. Plenty of boards, past and present, can be run similarly.
A neater trick would be to repurpose the internal VGA connector.
Wow what a video, hardware CEO really knowing its product, very entertaining video too. Quality content. Now with that CM case, super excited for FW reusability.
thats like what steve jobs said about a great company. That people knows what they’re doing is in charged, when the company expands the marketing people take charge and you see the quality fails.
I'm rooting for stuff like this to succeed SO MUCH.
I love that external case in collab with cooler master, so cool to be able to reuse parts as a computer that thin! The CEO and team are so cool and I am seriously rooting for their success. you can just feel their passion for their products and belief in this for the future
The framework team has that different kind of synergy, I love them so much
Love my 5th generation unit. Use it daily. Excellent work Framework team, and thank you Linus for your investment.
A framework printer would be amazing! The current printer market is aimed at predatorial marketing tactics, where every ink cartridge is super expensive and proprietary to a single printer. Having framework's philosophy applied to one would be just what is needed in this printer scene
Everyone talking about how they love the fact that the CEO knows everything about the product - of course he does. Framework is a small tiny underdog, the CEO wears many, many hats. He said it himself that he's built thousands of units himself. Possibly a huge amount of pre-production and prototype units with a small lean team. All big companies start like that. It's a sign of a very involved and invested CEO.
This was great. Very informative, good news in general, and the Framework team was fantastic on camera!
You did good too, Linus, at making that poor guy sweat. 🙂
Finally some competition in the laptop space
This scam will die out soon. They will lose their base as the issues with this form factor come out
@@Gay-is-_-trash Scam?!? Jesus Christ man, anyone who knows _anything_ at all about the laptop OEM space can recognize just how _INCREDIBLE_ an effort this is. Plus they let someone do a messy live demo in the middle of the Computex floor _months_ before the product ships.
Anyone who reads this, this guy is the epitome of haterdom. Proceed to ignore the shit out of him like I'm going to from now on.
@@Gay-is-_-trash Can you elaborate what are the issues with it? Even if there are issues its definitely harsh to call it scam
@@Gay-is-_-trash scam? Source? Or just a shill for other brands?
Edit: looking at your comment history, you're going to every AMD related video and talking trash. You're an Intel ultra fanboy. I'm sorry you feel like that. As an active user of both sides, they're both fantastic in their own ways.
@@james1234168 I was about to say the same. This guy is the reason why shadow bans exist. Just another troll
Love to see Framework's concept being expanded to a true modern ubiquitous computing standard! Excited for the 16 for GPU acceleration, and excited to start attaching Framework computers to all my screens!!!!
I guess this video was a win for framework and Nirav. He really knows everything about the product and I love it. I can absolutely feel the part about the hard work and the process of building credibility.
I wish we could get more Nirav more often. His presence is excellent and the way he can throw those metaphorical punches back and forth with Linus is super funny.
Perhaps a regular-ish LTTxFramework segment should be brainstormed if it hasn't already.
At least monthly "what's new at Framework" event would be nice
Framework would profit so much from this honestly 😂
Best collab of all time. Love their banter and the actual laptop is insanely cool. I'm still waiting for the right moment, but my next laptop will almost certainly be a Framework laptop.
PUT IN THE WORK, PUT IN THE HOURS, AND TAKE BACK WHATS OURS, 13:37
Nirav and team thank you for a great product. I built one for my wife last year. Loaded it and haven't hear of one peep of it being a problem. Bravo. She is a tough user and usually crushes things in software or hardware bugs. Like our chrome book that crashed.
Keep up the good work
We definitely need more of this. I have like 6 laptops that i cannot use and it's just e-waste at this point. Imagine being able to use the old boards as a server or something. I sincerely hope this company succeeds and I can order it from the Philippines in the future.
An official framework surface touch / tablet would be an amazing addition. As someone who uses their laptop keyboard only when traveling, I'm just waiting for the touchscreens to arrive before making the plunge.
With the VESA mount , even the cooler master can be a portable AIO. Can't wait to see where framework takes this.
I'd love a 2 in 1 with pen support.
The cooler master's framework desktop case thing's execution is amazing! I love the clear front and the subtle labels
The clear front reminds me of the see-through gameboy cases that sparked my interest in tech.
I love the framework concept and I will definitely continue to watch this company develop. I hope to have a badass framework laptop with upgradable gpu/cpu's! someday soon!
My company is considering framework laptops instead of Dell after I showed them, they want to try and see how support and spare part would work.
This makes a lot of sense if they provide support comparable to Lenovo or Dell for their business customers.
Imagine the low maintenance and upgradation costs. Especially during the 3-4 year corporate laptop replacement cycle.
They would just need to replace the motherboard and BOOM, its new again.
@@frozenfire72 also we have laptops with French and international layout. So we have many spare laptops with both layouts. With framework, we would need less laptops, just spare keyboards (then we could have more exotic ones too)
@@Arvi89 Damn! Framework really needs to push their marketing towards corporates. There's a goldmine of opportunities here.
This is amazing. I looked into the forums and stuff, and really love the community around Framework! In fact, I’ve just preordered my AMD 7840U Framework laptop in Australia! Comes in Q4!
Reusing the old main board is awesome. It would be cool if they offered something that functions like a blade server chassis.
21:07 Yes! I would love a printer that: doesn't use color ink when printing black and white, let's me print black and white without color ink, actually works for more than a month, and has reasonable prices for ink cartridges!
Man, framework laptops seem amazing...and seems like it's run by awesome people..need more framework Collab videos
I've had one for a bit more than a year now, and I can recommend them - knowing that you can isolate damage to individual parts and significantly reduce your repair effort is really satisfying.