HEATED DEBATE | Was Jesus God on Earth? | Sam Shamoun
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- Heated debate Sam Shamoun VS Hebrew Israelite on the Divinity of Jesus and the Incarnation.
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0:00 Intro
2:30 "Why is Jesus in relation to the Father?"
9:38 Philippians 2.8-9
16:00 "God has a Body"
18:35 Question on Philippians 2.7-8
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Wise in his own eyes....this man epitomizes this. He was literally like arguing with my 8 year old nephew.
The way this guy paused when Sam entered the chat😂😂😂😂
‼️‼️🔥🔥cooking him
Wow...the delusion is strong in this one🤣🤣. He got really excited when Sam showed up thinking he can refute The Assyrian Encyclopedia...tisk tisk
Assyrian, what Turkish? Antichrist is called the Assyrian, where he'll come from and be revealed. Sam is the same race. Iraq Iran Syria and Turkey: Assyrian ethnicity, also the old Assyrian empire, later the ottoman which is again in a weaker form rising again, and Great Tribulation is coming, then the Last Day, the Day of Jesus Christ, the Day of the Lord! The Day Jesus is Revealed coming upon the clouds of Heaven, in great power and glory! To gather the Elect Church to Himself.. our Resurrection and Rapture!
Him saying Sam is scared of me, 1st indicator of pride. Usually Christians are chilled out on this topic, we don't defend the bible. The bible defends itself and we have to point out where exactly it defends itself because people don't know the scripture.
Nicely put. Amen
The concept of bodily form is typically understood within the context of time and space. In physical terms, bodies are composed of matter and exist within the dimensions of space and time. The properties and behaviors of physical forms are governed by the laws of physics, which inherently involve spatial and temporal dimensions.
In philosophical or metaphysical discussions, some might argue that certain aspects of existence, including the essence or soul, could transcend time and space. However, bodily form, as understood in a material sense, is generally considered to be bound by time and space.
So, in the conventional scientific and philosophical understanding, bodily form does not exist outside time and space.
Self declared expert 😂😂 now I know your reliable...
Jesus is Lord God of the Most High. Amen.
The kid is cringe. U can tell how nervous he is by how he talks fast and randomly laughing while speaking. It also makes it hard to understand what he's saying as well.
JESUS is GOD 💕
5:14
And from those who say, “We are Christians,” We took their covenant, but they neglected a portion of what they had been commanded to uphold. So We let hostility and enmity arise between them until the Day of Judgment, and soon GOD will inform them of all they have done.
Sam should have told him. "No, you can't AXE me a question." The guy doesn't know the word ASK apprently. It's not AXE. It's ASK a question, and he's trying to say Sam has comprehension issues? Tell him to go back to kindergarten and learn how to pronounce words correctly and then come back for another spanking by Sam.
AAVE is a corrupting language variety that instills groupthink. The parents, culture, and education system has failed this young men and women.
Love the comments but this one is reaching .. like who care about that. Theres people who use broken English in the states. Weird comment
@@twoods555 Apparently, you like the guy that Sam roasted don't get it. It's not reaching. Now like Sam did to the bozo in the video. I'm going to bbq you. The fact that the bozo in the video *and you apparently* don't get the irony that the guy was trying to say Sam had comprehension issues. And the bozo in the video can't even pronounce simple words in English correctly. SMH go back to school and learn to read and maybe comprehension will come along with it for a ride.
He's shaking 😅😅😅😅😅 while talking
Talking about bodily form, can he explain what happened to Jesus original body on the mountain of transfiguration?
“That’s checkmate!” Oh the pride on this “hebrew”.
Those forced laughs that he makes is a coping mechanism and the slight dissing comments are showing is his stupidity.
If we go by his definition of God having a spirtual Body. Angles are said to be Spirits in Hebrews 1:14 and they have form, but it is a spirtual form. He also said that “it doesn’t necessitate” that God having a spiritual body means that he can not be outside of space and time. It does though, but let’s go with it. That means Angles can also be outside space, time and matter. 🤦🏽♂️
Yes angels can also be outside space and time if God created them that way. Just like how he created certain angels to have the ability to wipe out a whole assyrian army, but also created certain Angels to not be able to fight a single man, he can do whatever he pleases so to say that is stupidity for God to have a body outside of space and time shows you don’t know the Bible nor God. Plus, God is described in the Bible as literally wearing clothes, sitting a on the throne, having hands having hair on his head, but I guess to you that’s just figurative speech.
@@Polymath1998 yeah, that is a lie because God created everything at the beginning of Genesis 1-2:1-4 (the host in Genesis 2:1-4 are angels as well), because he mentions all the hosts. Those including the angels Nehemiah 9:5-6; Psalm 103:20-21; 148:1-2. There is no evidence that Angels exist outside of creation. Rather God created angels along with the rest of creation. Space, place, time and matter. No need to lie 🤦🏽♂️. So yes the guys still doesn’t know what he is talking about.
This guy on the phone is trying so hard to act like Sam but he is not even close to his stature and brilliance
Hahah Sam wiped the floor with him...And this guy Terry is constantly talking about how he won! Satan carries him, we pray for this guy!
Avery is a side kick, and This Sam guy is the king of insults!
Saying to anyone who disagrees with you (Sam) that they have a demon is a dangerous practice ….cause you could very well blaspheme without realizing it. Humble yourself
Knowledge ceases when you are in Christ
Christ in you is the hope of Glory none of these are in Christ
Let’s not forget we are called to be salt and light. The world will know we are his by our love. We can speak the truth in love without name calling. God bless you all. Also Sam you’re brilliant 👍🏻
Gods Glory is eternal and Christ is the manifestation of God's Glory making hi. GOD
Mr shamounian is quite capable of teaching his opponents, I don't think he's going about it considering the golden rule. He has to be the big brother, speak softly, but carry a big stick. There is just too much chatter. It makes listening a little difficult.
Fully God and Fully man
This entire situation brings to mind Paul's warning to Timothy in 2 Timothy 2:23. I neither see or hear any humility on either side, only pridefulness and name calling. Didn't Jesus say somewhere that one would be in danger of hell fire for calling your brother a fool? What a dishonor the work of our Lord, Jesus Christ. You guys need to clean up your act. Amazing!
Generally, the one refusing to answer and keeps deflecting is the one who automatically loses. When you cant stay on topic it proves you knowledge is lacking
Matt slick or Sam was not embarrassed
That muslim shuffle comment 😂
The force is strong with this one.😂😂.. the brother has a hard time understanding... Sam had to hold his hand every step of the way...thanks Godlogic for this video brother. Take care and God bless the channel, to help and guide all christians and the world to the Lord Jesus Christ...🙏🙏
NO WAY OUT WHEN SAM COORNER YOU
Sam Shamoun is a Monsta it ain't even Halloween!?! Masterful Sam! Blessings through Christ for Sam and his family in Christ Mighty Name Amen!!!!!
The following is from St. Athanasius' "On the Incarnation of the Word:
"There is a paradox in this last statement which we must now examine. The Word was not hedged in by His body, nor did His presence in the body prevent His being present elsewhere as well. When He moved His body He did not cease also to direct the universe by His Mind and might. No. The marvelous truth is, that being the Word, so far from being Himself contained by anything, He actually contained all things Himself. In creation He is present everywhere, yet is distinct in being from it; ordering, directing, giving life to all, containing all, yet is He Himself the Uncontained, existing solely in His Father. As with the whole, so also is it with the part. Existing in a human body, to which He Himself gives life, He is still Source of life to all the universe, present in every part of it, yet outside the whole; and He is revealed both through the works of His body and through His activity in the world. It is, indeed, the function of soul to behold things that are outside the body, but it cannot energize or move them. A man cannot transport things from one place to another, for instance, merely by thinking about them; nor can you or I move the sun and the stars just by sitting at home and looking at them. With the Word of God in His human nature, however, it was otherwise. His body was for Him not a limitation, but an instrument, so that He was both in it and in all things, and outside all things, resting in the Father alone. At one and the same time-this is the wonder-as Man He was living a human life, and as Word He was sustaining the life of the universe, and as Son He was in constant union with the Father. Not even His birth from a virgin, therefore, changed Him in any way, nor was He defiled by being in the body. Rather, He sanctified the body by being in it. For His being in everything does not mean that He shares the nature of everything, only that He gives all things their being and sustains them in it. Just as the sun is not defiled by the contact of its rays with earthly objects, but rather enlightens and purifies them, so He Who made the sun is not defiled by being made known in a body, but rather the body is cleansed and quickened by His indwelling, 'Who did no sin, neither was guile found in His mouth,'" ccel.org/ccel/athanasius/incarnation/incarnation.iv.html.
It is truly astounding that even when Jesus resided in the womb of Mary, he still held all the planets, galaxies, neutrons, protons, electrons, quarks, etc., of the _entire universe_ in their respective places, orbits, positions, etc.
They all use words far beyond their own vocabulary to try and sound intelligent. It’s amusing because they all use the same words but even more amusing considering the amount of simple grammatical errors they commit such as double negatives and, the thorn that will forever be in their side, the inability to conjugate “to be”.
1 Timothy 4:3,4 is the prophecy about such ones.
The irony of them calling the church fathers heresy lmao
The ways of the deceiver in any form, Muslim, Unitarian, Atheist, etc is to avoid the nuances and jump subjects
Hebrew Israelite is lost
YOU SHOULD BE EXCITED ABOUT YOUR GOD
Sam knows very well, when you talk to any group that uses the same terminologies but equivocates on its meaning, you have to literally get them to define everything.
Remember the creator dod not give his mystery a name because he knew you didn't need it
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I love this kind of discussion, but i also don't support people cursing while talking about the nature of the Creator a feat which is impossible by flesh.
I follow all of you but you were all imperial to that fellow.
Sam is so abrasive. He knows a lot,, but his personality is difficult
Yh at times it’s difficult
This guest clown gets a pass, too much barking.
It's based on who's he's talking to. I've seen him very gentle during evangelism.
"FORM" The visible shape or configuration of something!
Damn... the way Sam just came out of no where is just so gansta
For as we know god said he is a spirit he has a spiritual body and he looks like us human beings
He said Sam afraid of him but when Sam showed up he he was like a guy who wearing a skirt 😂😂😂😂
There are some people that are so delsional they should leave some subjects alone as they are not their forte this man is one of them.
Terry huffin on laughing gas and smoking on that shisha 😂😂😂
"visible tons of fire that speaks in tongue languages" wow sounds like the devil 👿👿👿 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Sam just called Jesus a god not God in the highest form
Jesus as prophet prophesied by Moses and Isaiah prophesied Jesus as Son who is Ever lasting father Isaiah 9:6,,So who is Jesus?God and Prophet.
Which heresy is the 'black Hebrew' committing? Monophysitism? Arianism?
The concept of bodily form is typically understood within the context of time and space. In physical terms, bodies are composed of matter and exist within the dimensions of space and time. The properties and behaviors of physical forms are governed by the laws of physics, which inherently involve spatial and temporal dimensions.
In philosophical or metaphysical discussions, some might argue that certain aspects of existence, including the essence or soul, could transcend time and space. However, bodily form, as understood in a material sense, is generally considered to be bound by time and space.
So, in the conventional scientific and philosophical understanding, bodily form does not exist outside time and space.😂😂
Terry said that Jesus is two persons 🤦🏽♂️
THIS MADEN AMERICAN MUSLEM HE DON'T KNOW SAM
😅😂😂😂😂 good job sam !
Terry really show who his father and mother is 😂😂😂😂
1jn 5:20
That guy is an anticrist depicted in 1 Jn ch 2.
What Emmanuel means?
Demons strongly manifested through this jews guy
YEHOVAH THE ALONE YEHOVAH ALONE IS GOD ALONE BY HIMSELF ABOVE ALL IN ALL ETERNALLY
Deuteronomy 6:4 ASV
Hear, O Israel:
Jehovah our God is one Jehovah:
Deuteronomy 4:35,39 ASV
Unto thee it was showed, that thou mightest know that
Jehovah he is God;
there is none else besides him.
[39] Know therefore this day, and lay it to thy heart, that
Jehovah he is God
in heaven above and
upon the earth beneath;
there is none else.
Deuteronomy 10:17 ASV
For
Jehovah your God,
he is
God of gods, and
Lord of lords,
the great God,
the mighty, and
the terrible,
who regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward.
1 Samuel 2:2 ASV
There is none holy as Jehovah;
For
there is none besides thee,
Neither is there any rock like our God.
Nehemiah 9:6 ASV
THOU ART JEHOVAH, EVEN THOU ALONE;
thou hast made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their host, the earth and all things that are thereon, the seas and all that is in them, and thou preservest them all; and
THE HOST OF HEAVEN WORSHIPPETH THEE.
2 Kings 19:15,19 ASV
And Hezekiah prayed before Jehovah, and said, O JEHOVAH, the God of Israel, that sittest above the cherubim,
THOU ART THE GOD, EVEN THOU ALONE,
of all the kingdoms of the earth; thou hast made heaven and earth. [19] Now therefore, O Jehovah our God, save thou us, I beseech thee, out of his hand, that all the kingdoms of the earth may know that
THOU JEHOVAH ART GOD ALONE.
Isaiah 37:15-16,20 ASV
And Hezekiah prayed unto Jehovah, saying, [16] O JEHOVAH OF HOSTS, the God of Israel, that sittest above the cherubim,
THOU ART THE GOD, EVEN THOU ALONE,
of all the kingdoms of the earth; thou hast made heaven and earth.
[20] Now therefore, O JEHOVAH OUR GOD, save us from his hand, that all the kingdoms of the earth may know that
THOU ART JEHOVAH, EVEN THOU ONLY.
Psalm 86:8-11 ASV
There is none like unto thee among the gods, O LORD; Neither are there any works like unto thy works.
[9] All nations whom thou hast made shall come and worship before thee, O LORD;
And they shall glorify thy name. [10] For thou art great, and doest wondrous things:
THOU ART GOD ALONE.
[11] Teach me thy way, O JEHOVAH; I will walk in thy truth: Unite my heart to fear thy name.
Exodus 15:2-3,11,18 ASV
Jehovah is my strength and song, And he is become my salvation:
This is
my God, and I will praise him;
My father's God, and I will exalt him.
[3] Jehovah is a man of war: Jehovah is his name.
[11] Who is like unto thee, O Jehovah, among the gods? Who is like thee, glorious in holiness, Fearful in praises, doing wonders?
[18] Jehovah shall reign for ever and ever.
Psalm 82:1,6-7 ASV
God standeth in the congregation of God;
He judgeth among the gods.
[6] I said, Ye are gods, And all of you sons of the Most High.
[7] Nevertheless ye shall die like men, And fall like one of the princes.
Psalm 83:18 ASV
That they may know that thou alone, whose name is Jehovah, Art the Most High over all the earth.
Psalm 97:1,7,9 ASV
Jehovah reigneth; let the earth rejoice; Let the multitude of isles be glad.
[7] Let all them be put to shame that serve graven images, That boast themselves of idols: Worship him, all ye gods.
[9] For thou, Jehovah, art most high above all the earth:
Thou art exalted far above all gods.
Psalm 96:4-5,8-10 ASV
For great is Jehovah, and greatly to be praised:
He is to be feared above all gods.
[5] For all the gods of the peoples are idols; But Jehovah made the heavens.
[8] Ascribe unto Jehovah the glory due unto his name: Bring an offering, and come into his courts.
[9] Oh worship Jehovah in holy array: Tremble before him, all the earth.
[10] Say among the nations,
Jehovah reigneth:
The world also is established that it cannot be moved: He will judge the peoples with equity.
Isaiah 40:8-10 ASV
The grass withereth, the flower fadeth; but the word of our God shall stand forever.
[9] O thou that tellest good tidings to Zion, get thee up on a high mountain; O thou that tellest good tidings to Jerusalem, lift up thy voice with strength; lift it up, be not afraid;
say unto the cities of Judah,
Behold, your God!
[10] Behold, the Lord Jehovah will come as a mighty one, and his arm will rule for him:
Behold, his reward is with him, and his recompense before him.
Psalm 95:3,6-8 ASV
For
Jehovah is
a great God, And
a great King
above all gods.
[6] Oh come, let us worship and bow down; Let us kneel before Jehovah our Maker: [7] For he is our God, And we are the people of his pasture, and the sheep of his hand. To-day, oh that ye would hear his voice! [8] Harden not your heart, as at Meribah, As in the day of Massah in the wilderness;
Psalm 94:12 ASV
Blessed is the man whom thou chastenest, O Jehovah, And teachest out of thy law;
Psalm 93:1-2,5 ASV
Jehovah reigneth;
he is clothed with majesty; Jehovah is clothed with strength; he hath girded himself therewith: The world also is established, that it cannot be moved. [2] Thy throne is established of old: Thou art from everlasting.
[5] Thy testimonies are very sure: Holiness becometh thy house, O Jehovah, for evermore.
Psalm 92:8 ASV
But thou, O Jehovah, art on high for evermore.
Psalm 90:1-3 ASV
Lord, thou hast been our dwelling-place In all generations. [2] Before the mountains were brought forth, Or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, Even
from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.
[3] Thou turnest man to destruction, And sayest,
Return, ye children of men.
Isaiah 45:5-6,16,21-25 ASV
I am Jehovah, and
there is none else;
besides me there is no God.
I will gird thee, though thou hast not known me; [6] that they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that
there is none besides me:
I am Jehovah, and
there is none else.
[16] They shall be put to shame, yea, confounded, all of them; they shall go into confusion together that are makers of idols.
[21] Declare ye, and bring it forth; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath showed this from ancient time? who hath declared it of old? have not
I, Jehovah? and
there is no God else besides me,
a just God and
a Saviour;
there is none besides me.
[22] Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth;
for
I am God, and there is none else.
[23] By myself have I sworn,
the word is gone forth from my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return,
that
unto me
every knee shall bow,
every tongue shall swear.
[24] Only in Jehovah, it is said of me, is righteousness and strength; even to him shall men come; and all they that were incensed against him shall be put to shame.
[25] In Jehovah shall all the seed of Israel be justified, and shall glory.
Deuteronomy 32:39-40 ASV
See now that
I, even I, am he, And
there is no god with me:
I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal; And there is none that can deliver out of my hand. [40] For I lift up my hand to heaven, And say, As
I live for ever,
Isaiah 43:10-11 ASV
Ye are my witnesses, saith Jehovah, and my servant whom I have chosen; that ye may know and believe me, and understand that
I am he:
before me there was no God formed,
neither shall there be after me.
[11] I, even I, am Jehovah; and besides me there is no saviour.
Hosea 13:4 ASV
Yet
I am Jehovah thy God from the land of Egypt; and
thou shalt know no god but me,
and
besides me there is no saviour.
Jeremiah 10:10 ASV
But
JEHOVAH IS THE TRUE GOD;
HE IS THE LIVING GOD, and
AN EVERLASTING KING:
at his wrath the earth trembleth, and the nations are not able to abide his indignation.
Isaiah 33:22 ASV
For
JEHOVAH IS OUR JUDGE,
JEHOVAH IS OUR LAWGIVER,
JEHOVAH IS OUR KING;
HE WILL SAVE US.
Isaiah 48:12,17-18 ASV
Hearken unto me, O Jacob, and Israel my called:
I am he;
I AM THE FIRST, I ALSO AM THE LAST.
[17] Thus saith Jehovah, thy Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel: I am Jehovah thy God, who teacheth thee to profit, who leadeth thee by the way that thou shouldest go. [18] Oh that thou hadst hearkened to my commandments! then had thy peace been as a river, and thy righteousness as the waves of the sea:
This is so Sad . The non chosen whom has no road to Damascus is now saying GOD chose a non lay priest nor prophet to speak as one with GOD the Father. Please
Ask this modern sperm and egg of creation to prove which Apostle chose him to become an apprentice? Who is young man’s Ananias? Did Elijah come down an place any cloak around him?
17:10 sam ended him.
Ethiopian wad way behind of COMPRIHANTION TO WAY BEHIND..PROBLEM READING 📚 COMPRIHATION BLIND SPOT 😮HOPE HE GROW 😮
As a trinitarian, i don't agree with Sam that God the Father isn't physical. God doesn't require time or space to have a physical body of His caliber. I may not be able word this sense that I have of this concept.
I’m not a trinitarian but I do agree with you that God doesn’t require time or space to have a body, as Paul says in 1 Corinthians the glory of celestial bodies is not the same are terrestrial bodies. So the way in which terrestrial bodies (human) are limited is not the same as celestial bodies ( god/angels etc ). God is describe throughout the Bible as having a body, sitting on throne while Christ and various angels litterally walk up to him to talk or even take stuff out of his hands, he is described as having clothes on, having hair, having feet, back, a face , hands and even a complexion ( Rev 4 ) ( Daniel 7 ) so to say God doesnt have a body because he’s a spirit is asinine because angels are spirits and they have various bodies, and we spirits and we have bodies so why is out of the realm of having a body when were made in his image?
Im sorry this is bad teaching... Trinitarians make stuff as they go i hear so many different things from them ... Its ridiculous paul say its many diversities of operations but its the same God... How we get three out of one ? When You cant Limit God to three! Jesus Christ is the Father .. the Son of Mary took the title and powers of the spirit Jesus of nazeruth was filled with the Holy Ghost not a person. It is written things thay are seen a temporary but those that are not seen are eternal... The invisible was in the visible . That why Jesus says i do nothing of myself but the father that dwell in me does the works.
If Muslims didn’t burn down the last remnants of ancient knowledge at the library Alexandria in Egypt, The Great library of Constantinople the Buddhist and Hindu library of South and Central Asia but instead learned from them, their ummah wouldn’t still be stuck in jahilliyya.
The Christian and Jews sailed around and rediscovered ancient knowledge applied and experimented, creating all the modern disciplines in all the sciences, ended the slave trade, invented the steam and internal combustion engines, kicked off the Industrial Revolution and built the modern high tech information/AI/Robotic age and planning manned missions mars.
Jesus is God
As much as I agree with Shamoun, they were being unfair to the Israelite.
In what way were they unfair
Please don't have that Avery or Terry guy back on!
Hilarious 😂The Dunning Kruger Is Strong With This 1😆
😂😂😂😂beautiful 👍🏾👍🏾💯
Terry.. Terry... Terry.... relax😅😂😂
What bodily form was Melchizedek who had no father or mother and a king of Salem and has no beginning or end?
@crypoocollege2481 Melchizedek was a normal human being born of a father an mother just like any other human that was born with the exception of Adam and Eve and only Jesus who didn't have an human biological father but he had atleast a biological mother(Mary) so Melchizedek was no difference to all of us!!
@@ChevyNova632bigblockchevy: That is correct! All humans have a father and mother.
Just a point though. Mary could not be called a biological mother of Jesus because she didn't contribute anything except the womb environment for Jesus.
God transformed an angel into a human form, placing his son in the womb of Mary. Galatians 4:4. Philippians 2:7 would help understand this.
Mary was an imperfect human being. If Jesus inherited any gene from her. Jesus wouldn't have been perfect.
@@tongakhan230 Goodnight my sister in the faith how are you? Sorry for my late back response to you comment you send me yesterday (where I live it is now *1:06 am* June 28th) Thanks for understanding my comment about the literal understandings of Melchizedek's obvious genealogy which alot of so-called Bible readers actually believes that because the Scriptures describes his lack of genealogy information means that he literally had non!!!
But then you also went on to explain something to me that is not true that Mary is and cannot be called Jesus' *biological mother* based on the premise that biological is connected to passing on genes...!!
No offcourse the term *biological* is a modern terminology to describe one's actually direct father and one's birth mother and by extension your actual siblings(if your not the only child) but offcourse not because that modern terminology wasn't and existed back then doesn't mean it can't be applied to explain what it was and is still is to be understood!!
Mary's contribution of being chosen by our God Jehovah to be the mother of His son to be born to a virgin doesn't take away the fact that she was Jesus' biological mother my sister because at the end of the day Jehovah did utilize her egg and had was to transform Jesus' life force into a little cell or sperm to connect with her egg so that he will be born as natural human being but he was protected by His(Jehovah's) His Spirit(the most powerful force that exist) that shielded Mary's *imperfections* as a descendant of sinful Adam hence why Jesus could of and did born as a *perfect son of God* that's why in Luke's account it is said that Holy Spirit would *overshadowed her* (obviously from the time of conception to the time when he was born) *Luke* 1:35 for the 9 months she would of carried her son Jesus!!
So all of this has nothing to do with Mary not being Jesus' biological mother because at the end of the day she was actually his *birth mother* just like *e.g.* how Ismael (Abraham's biological FIRSTBORN son) although he was actually Sahah's *LEGAL* son but his surrogate mother Hagar was still his actual *biological...mother* !!!
And yes Mary also besides her womb as you correctly said that she contributed she also contributed to the fact that as a descendant David through his son Nathan she gave Jesus that natural descendency of being born a natural born descended of David also "accordinding to the flesh" *Romans* 1:2
So hopes you understand my comment clearly and if you have any reservations on it feel free to say what it is!!🤗
@@ChevyNova632bigblockchevy : Chosen humans are transformed into spirit beings. Philippians 3:20,21.
Jesus was the other was round. No sperm or ova was involved in Jesus' birth.
Into what developed form Jesus was transfered into Mary's womb is not given. Neither if Mary had to wait 9 months.
Using any part of Mary other than her womb environment would have passed imperfect genes onto Jesus.
In which case Jesus couldn't have been perfect.
Think it over.
@tongakhan230 goodmorning again my sister in the faith I am now getting a chance to respond back to your comment in good faith,but it is you who needs to *rethink* over some of the things you are saying here!!
Now the transforming part that you mentions here I absolutely agrees with when it comes to humans transforming into spirit creatures *e.g.* 144,000. anointed brothers and sisters they are *transformed* from their original state of humans to their *new* state of being spirit creatures,but using them as an example was not needed in this topic(and again I am saying in all good spirit my sister🙂) now you mentioned about what I said about Jesus being a sperm mating with his mother's egg🥚and you discarded it as being not true as being involved in Jesus' birth, now I just wanna make it clear as day that when I said what I said about the sperm part I was *not being DOGMATIC* and insisting that is was definitely that,but I was just looking at things in a *LOGICAL....* way as the most probable way Jehovah may of *transfer* Jesus' life force meaning his information details about him into a sperm that He(Jehovah) has designed His fleshly creatures(both humans and animals) to procreate which afterall didn't he create with Adam the ability to produce perfect uncontaminated sperms to mate with Eve's perfect uncontaminated egg to produce only perfect uncontaminated children/offsprings? So then why couldn't He(Jehovah) also transfer Jesus' life force into a perfect uncontaminated sperm although Mary's egg would of been imperfect and *contaminated...* by her forefather ancestor Adam seeing that she was a descendant of him who was imperfect, that is why I pointed out to you from the Scriptures in *Luke* 1:35 which says "In answer the angel said to her:"Holy spirit will come upon you, *and power of the Most High will OVERSHADOW....you.* And for that reason the one who is born *will be called holy God's Son."* So this means that although if Jesus was transformed into a sperm(not being DOGMATIC here just saying)it was Jehovah's most powerful force His Holy Spirit is what ensured that Mary's imperfections was *not* transfered to that sperm by passing it onto her unborn developing child in her womb...with God's active force nothing is impossible for Him to do!! So it was not only Mary womb that was used for the birth of her firstborn son as you said it was also most *Logically* her egg was obviously involved too which as the Scriptures shows it may of taken it's course for 9 months, which by the way is what standed out the most to me in your comment when you said "Neither if Mary had to wait for 9 months" my question is my sister how did you arrive at that to say such a thing when the Scriptures supports that Mary would of been pregnant🤰with Jesus for about 9 months as *Luke's* account clearly shows? Can you explain your stance on that please!!!🙏
Another angry "true Hebrew". Surprise.
The only one with comprehension issues is the one who is the great debater 😅😂😅. Sam is so patient with this potato 🥔
Not knowing who is panel don’t bark… Sam destroyed him like a cockroach 😂😂😂
Shamon have a demos it can tell 😂
U have horrible grammar and u can't spell. U can cope all u like about that kid getting steamrolled by Sam but it's not gonna help u.
Why not the expect show up his face live like Sam instead of coward hahahah 😂😂😂😂😂
Lost respect for god logic on this one.... should have controlled sam, that dude let sam talk
So the so called Israelite didn’t need “controlling”? Stop it lol he got smoked.
They have turned the word of God into another Trinity social club, and if you happen not to subscribe to this unscriptural teaching then you will be ridiculed and kicked out of their club.
I strongly doubt Avery and Sam give a damn about ur opinion or respect.
@@blackhaze8233 they would if they were real christians.... unlike you
Down girl 😂
My age got corrupted by listening to this Hebrew guy. Uhhg uhh uhhhhgg ahhh 👶
God is suppose to be immutable right? If Jesus was lower than the angels then he was not always Almighty God. No equality with his God and Father. His God who is the Highest is always Almighty. (Luke 1:32). Jehovah is His Name. (Psalm 83:18)
Jesus said so clearly iam a prophet did not say iam Devine ov God
He's is God
Go research. Stop being. Simple.
How can a Son of God be God at ANY time?
The Bible is clear. God SENT his son from heaven to become the human Messiah. Galatians 4:4.
To be SENT by God, Jesus would have had to be an ANGEL, as there are only angels who are there WITH God for God to SEND.
Sons of God ARE the ANGELS. Job 1:6.
Jesus is called a son of God. Never illogically, God.
Your wrong. Jesus is not an angel. There are many angels. But there is only one Jesus. Don’t twist the Bible. John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
@@ashs5710 : ONLY begotten Son is a unique Angel. Ref John 3:16.
ALL the ANGELS are called God's SONS (Job 1:6).
Why is Jesus called God's SON?
(Galatians 4:4) But when the full limit of the time arrived, God SENT HIS SON, who was born of a woman and who was under law,
Not A son. But a specific son.
@@tongakhan230 stop twisting the bible. I’ve never heard someone butcher it as bad as you. You just contradict yourself with your own comment
@@ashs5710 : People who mangle selected scriptures are those who try to make a Son of God into God. Defying logic and scripture.
If Jesus was not an angel, whom did God send from heaven to become Jesus?
@@tongakhan230I just referenced John. His only begotten son. Jesus is still god in the flesh. You need to read and understand scripture not twist.
JC was no God , period .
Jesus Christ IS GOD.
Period.
@@michaelmclean5581 Prove it , when JC cried , My Lord why have you forsaken me .
@@mnoorbhai
Easy
Separation from God the Father because Jesus bore the sin of the world at that point on the cross.
Sin is separation from God the Father, because God the Father is so holy and just the penalty for sin has to be paid and Jesus paid the debt that every one of us could not pay including separation( My God my God, why have you forsaken me?)from God the Father because of SIN
John 14:6
Jesus said to him, “ I am the way, and the truth, and the life.”
These are claims only made by God! Your false al lah claims to be the truth and the life…. Same claims Jesus makes!!
Jesus IS GOD.
Jesus on earth was just a man. However, he had been a god. Having been an angel with God in heaven. Angels are mighty beings. They term god refers to such. Psalms 82:1.
@@tongakhan230another heretic. Jesus is God Almighty.
Sam said Moran and he called to other people demons but he is the one demon 😂😂😂😂
Yeah I know mohammad was a demon and allah his servant haha
A laughing clown 🤡 is a laughing Fool👺
Hindu Godmen claim to be God on earth but God is not like his creation is part of earth or neither can he be seen on earth
I CAN END THIS COMEDY WITH THE SINCERE ANSWER TO ONE QUESTION but before let’s establish the Christian theological position on JESUS , so Jesus according to Christian’s is god in a triune divine confine specifically the 2nd person In the triune god head the Co equal SON OF GOD who thdn anoints himself as his own messiah sent to the people of Israel FIRST if there are NO disagreements THEN NOW The Question : WHO INVENTED ANTISEMITISM quick simple question for a QUICK and simple answer ?!!???
Is that mo!on muslim?
17:10 sam ended him.
17:10 sam ended him.