Resuscitating Ford Model A Garage Find - First Drive
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 พ.ย. 2023
- The 1931 Model A we just purchased is super nice, but has some issues we need to address. The car set for a number of years with a bunch of fuel in the tank, causing some sludge to build up inside. Matt and Steve work on cleaning the external fittings on the tank and trying to blow out as much debris as possible. After cleaning what they could reach, they installed a second filter to help catch any particles that get past the bowl. Time to take it for a nice drive!!
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Look at you in an unchopped, unchanneled, and unlowered Model A Ford. What's the world coming to. Love it!!!!
Model A’s just make everyone smile. Nice little Coupe.
When you guys drove away from the shop your grins were priceless as if you stole the car keys from mom’s purse. Classic quote of the day from Matt, “we stalled…oh no…Shit.” Awesome car
I remember watching the old TV show, 'The Walton's,' and they were pretty much spot on with living in the 30's to the 40's, and when they drove their car, it's just like yours, they were getting scared driving at
25 mph and just above, ha haa.
But, they also had dirt roads too. When it rained, those tall skinny wheels would cut through the muck and find a little bit of solid ground. 😮😊😅😂❤
Love it! You guys smiling while driving makes you look like a couple of excited kids. 👍🇺🇸😂😊
What a sweet old car, I hope you sell it on as is to a collector who will love it and look after it.
The cars not original, it's been put back together from other parts, it needs to be hot rodded so it can be driven in modern traffic.
It looks great to me the way it is. Not every car has to be 100 percent original or hot rodded.
What a nice old car. Give Kate and Moon a ride in the rumble seat!
Loved this! Pretty much the way every first run goes with these old gals. "Powered by Steve!" Go Iron Trap! Can't wait to see what's coming next!
There is a cheap pencil shaped filter that goes in the top of the shutoff valve in the tank that will keep sediment in the bottom of the tank from entering the fuel line. They're great in a situation like this. Available from Snyder's, Bratton's model A parts and others.
Well, what a delightful feel-good episode this was... you know it's going to crap out, just not when. And because we love you, we don't want the breakdown far from home. Perfectomundo.
Really liked this episode. Thanks for giving us a bit of knowledge on these. Hope to find one for myself.
Such fun!
Another great video glad to see moon in the background
One of the cleanest buys yet up for sale. Some gremlins to resolve. Should be a good, reliable, drivable car for the right person. No speed demon but a really well maintained old car.
Stock Model A rear axle ratio is 3.78. Third gear is direct drive. 45-50mph is the maximum safe speed for the engine bearings for long periods.
I got rid of those cheap plastic fuel filters, they can melt in an engine fire quicker than the rubber hoses will, and always carry fire extinguisher.
Even with gas in the tank you still manage to run it out of gas. Beautiful car!
That's a sweet beautiful car needs a little more love ❤️
Paul Shinn has a Model A channel and I bet he could get you a buyer in no time.
Or he could advise you on where to advertise it
Matt, I still love this as a Model A as it is now.....I am checking with my son to see if we can come see it next Tuesday( Dec. 5th) if available still. The video was a great preview of this Model A.
Sounds good Paul. Just send us an email to confirm and we’d be happy to show it to you. Irontrapgarage@gmail.com
Actually, 45 mph is not bad when you look at how old and basic the car is. With those skinny wheels/tyres, that's about as much as most sane men would want.
Especially on the roads back in the day!
Suggestion: Get a NAPA 3039 filter for the sediment bowl and put a small magnet on bottom. You'll be surprised how much gunk will collect.
A magnet in the fuel bowl will not help much if at all. Rust (iron oxide) has half as many unpaired electrons (2 vs 4) as metallic iron which makes it barely magnetic. Smaller particles of rust won't stick to the magnet and larger ones would sink to the bottom of the bowl anyway. With a clean tank and gas tank screen installed, the fuel bowl and carburetor screen should be able to keep everything flowing properly. Adding a modern fuel filter in the bowl is unnecessary and having one in-line, so close to the exhaust manifold, increases the chances of vapor lock and heat soak on warm days. Proper maintenance is the key.
Absolutely correct!
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that just happened to me with my new model A so much fun! hahahaha you have to love them cars!
Fun watching the process!
Haha! I recently bought a Detroit built 31 Fordor here in the UK and had to chuckle seeing you experienced Hot Rodders experiencing all the same issues I have recently had plus some extra ones like a cracked manifold, then a faulty Coil! Oh what fun!
Thanks Straught Ahead ✌😎
Next to burnt rear end lube I think old gas that has turned to varnish is one of the nastiest smells you can com across for auto fluids.
Good vid the car's black paint looked great .
Sediment bowl is nice..but Add a filter will help save a few walks . I've learned..
I had a problem in and old fuel tank about 50 years ago that had a few mall chunks of foam rubber in it and some time one would get against the fuel tank outlet and it would just stop running . Most of the time that would happen when the tank was almost empty . I never did get all of it out and when I sold it I told the buyer i always kept it above a 1/4 tank . Back then there was nobody making reproduction tanks like we have now .
I usually rinse the the tank with gas and run it into a gerry can 6 or 8 times before i fill the carb with rust.
Imo a video series of period add ons juice brakes. Maybe a flathead V8 updated trans etc. But that's my opinion.
The, “SPM,” was working well here, “Smiles Per Mile,” until, it ran out, lol.
Absolutely, it was fun watching the drive. The engine sounds like a beautiful sowing machine and it ain't no rocket but it's zippy.
The PPM, push per mile was working well also
Hey Steve,
Has working with Matt and Mike givin you the early model car bug? Or has it inoculated you from getting it?
And what is your favorite muscle car?
What's YOUR Iron Trap?
That strainer is actually a spark arrestor!
Looking so clean, glad to see how you cleared out the gas tank, and installed the fuel bowl filter.
The shut off should inside the car and the fuel bowl mounted flush to the cowl.
This is 31 with no shut-off in car but rather on the firewall
How about a gallon of vinegar and a couple gallons of water for a couple of days. Seems to work really good on removing rust on loose parts.
If I had the money I'd buy that car as is !
That would be a great car to do the Seattle Speed Shop banger hop-ups to!
Nice car
I've been a subscriber for probably 4 or 5 years. I just happened to check and TH-cam unsubscribed to me you may want to tell the rest of your subscribers to check their subscription crazy.. Love your videos!!
Oh that’s odd! Welcome back!
Molasses in the fuel filter bowl, yum, taste good.
You fixed it.
I think the reason it can idle so low is due to the weight of the fly wheel keeping it rotating. Just my limited knowledge. Question, were you double clutching? The car seems to shift nice.
Yep I was double clutching. It did shift nice!
Properly tuned you should be able to just get it to tick over, put it in 1st gear and get out and walk beside it. I would remove that second filter.
My grandmother had a 1930 Model A which my father an his older brother would ‘borrow’ at night and run it as fast as possible down the Chicago Turnpike. My dad said 50 mph was top speed until they discovered that by removing the wood floorboards the go pedal could be pressed down another 1/2” getting them up to 55 mph! He said it could get scary watching the pavement go by. Is that early budget hotrodding? This must have been around 1935 or so.
An I thought I was silly. But this fuel filter was really put the wrong way round. Been there done it and learned from it.
That's an odd place for the fuel bowl, right above the hot exhaust manifold!
Always carry a tool bag, prevents embarrassing push home's.
Put a 16 inch pace of 3/8s wire rope in a drill down in the tank and it can clean a lot of that rust out and that paper one is in wrong way and please keep the old girl just like she is
How do you control the cable once it goes around the baffle?
Let her rip
Boys, that 2nd fuel filter to catch the finer crud is a good idea but I think you put it in back to front... ah yes, 8:05 you caught it 😀
If the inside of that tank looks like the strainer you're in for trouble. 😮
Cool car, but you should probably build a mk1
the gas filter is on backworks the arrows on the side said it
In those old cars they're gravity fed fuel ! So if you are going up hill the fuel in tank runs away from the outlet ! My uncle had one to go up hill he would back it up the hill to keep gas going to the engine !
I have modern saddle tanks in my old pickup. The outlets for these are at the front so a low fuel level makes uphill driving interesting. Stupid design
I was hoping you guys were going to hop up the 4 banger.
if the speedo is wrong, it's probably because the final drive ratio has been changed via the differential. or possibly the transmission. the speedometer's source of input will reveal which. there are, of cource, free "speedometer" apps for your phone that will show you what's what WRT speed.
@@logicthought24 i suspect modern auto manufacturers intentionally error on the high side due to liability issues.
and with the advent of radial tires and their incompatibility, size-wise, with bias ply tires, it only exacerbates accuracy issues WRT speedometers.
What happened to the shutoff valve that is in the car? Normally the glass bowl is right up against the firewall and a steel gas line goes to the carburetor. Paul Shinn has the part number of a Wix fuel filter that goes in the glass bowl.
niceeee
paper fuel filters are made for fuel pumps, gravity needs screen type..
My model a over here in pgh does the same popping from the carb and losses all power...I've kinda narrowed it down to running lean and have to open the gav up a bit.. although i can't confirm 💯.. did you find any other issues that could say other wise? This also happens to me after a nice half hour drive or so. Carb has been rebuilt multiple times.
What a great car! I know you said she was not too good cosmetically, but does that really matter?
You don't want to push it past 45 mph.
ever had one of them triple a moments?
The new style gas filter is on backwards Steve it’s a honest mistake
re: stinky - been working on the fuel system on the Catalina for the past couple weeks. We know Stinky! He's a good friend now. 😂
edit - your aftermarket fuel filter is backwards. Large end to carb. Ask me why I have that memorized.
45 mph is reasonable, they didn't usually go over 60.
Maiden flight...needs more inspection...take tools -- and a few extra filters...lol
Maiden flight is solo. Helper guy waits for the call. Rescues you with another vehicle and tools
Did Steve clean the carb float bowl?
Do you put a lead additive in the new fuel.
I have found that the filter you were using does not work well on gravity systems
Could you check the speed with your phone?
That is what you get for all the comments about how well it idles and runs. 😁
Ahh! That plastic fuel filter so near the exhaust manifold is frightening. It’ll melt and then . . .
Also, isn’t it dangerous to vacuum a fuel tank? Any fumes could be ignited by the shop vac?
Yes sir they can. We were replacing the fuel sender unit on my brothers 70 Chevrolet blazer and of course had the tank out. well we got the bright ide of vacuuming out the tank and the shop vac that my brother had was old and the electric motor sparked at the brush connections when it ran. Of course the discharge from the motor blew air across for cooling and when we fired it up we had a flame thrower. It sort of melted the plastic around the top and of course we shut the thing off and covered the top to kill the flames. The shop vac was an old used one and my brother had actually cut the top out of the motor in order to lubricate the upper bearing on the motor so it was not so much of a loss and it still worked. Oh well we live and learn. Of course that gas in that tank was really old if it stank as bad as Matt said it did and that old gas is hard to light off. I have a John Deere tractor with the same gravity feed setup and there was quite a lot of trash in the tank and when it clogged up the tractor would run just as this car did when it clogged up. Also some other posts recommended not using the paper filter. I use the glass bowl and have my tractor setup so that I can clear the clog in the fuel tank when it happens as well.
Isn’t there a way you can set your iPhone to tell how fast your car is going?
They were made to do 35 . How are the brakes at 50 ?
Model As will do 45 to 50. Over that beats the bearings. The brakes should slide the wheels. Thats as good as you can get.
Dude!!! Hot rod it!!! You can go to any car museum in the country and see model A's!!! Did you sell the green one!!??✌️
Your in line filter is backwards.
Nice.
#STAYSAFE
#PHILLYPHILLY
A plastic filter in a engine compartment you know that's a No-No metal only
It was to just catch any major debris and it was removed after a few times running it.
What is the silver thing on the running board? A boot scraper?
Step plate
Wander what the price gouge will be if he sell it
The going rate for a running driving shiny model a coupe that’s been restored. Not sure how that’s a price gouge!
F**k that cut up that original car and make it cool
At 19:10 into this video you have the perfect opportunity to push start the car but you didn't even try. You guys aren't too bright, are you?
not getting fuel..why bother...
@@arthurwarman6161 you should have cleared or replaced the lines beforehand.
It had a blocked fuel system.. so it won’t “push start” but we’re the ones that aren’t too bright?
Also, it has a crank. Low battery is rarely a real problem.
It has spark. Do you live in a world where pushing a car makes gravity pull fuel stronger? Think before you type, Einstein.