Sombra is my most played hero and is close to one of my best. I seriously just got frustrated coding with her passive and got frustrated with Ashe’s ability so used Sombra to reset Ashe and got a funny thumbnail out of it XD
I actually never played Mirrorwatch so I wouldn’t know lol. As for the roadhog ult, I thought about that but was worried it’d be too much crowd control for a support. Then again, this Gamemode is so unbalanced already I don’t think people would mind xD
@kendelR I have always wondered how many people actually want Sombra removed would you mind doing a poll to see who wants Sombra remove from the game I would do it if I could but I don't have a following please and thank you ❤
People regularly complain about the support abilities that don’t involve healing. Suzu, lamp, antinade, discord, damage boost, etc all get cried about despite being staples in MMOs and MOBAS. FPS players are weak and can’t handle anything that can’t be solved by just shooting lol.
I would say the Mirror watch version of Sombs could work which made her more a support than a dps, while keeping some of her kit like the stealth, hack boosting a players healthpool with overhealth and slightly increasing damage could work (and heals the target if not full health) while her ult does pretty much the same enabling her team more but also locks enemies out of burst damage instead of outright just disabling abilities, like heals for half/quarter damage but also prevents half/quarter as damage reduction damage from happening to the team. and if need be hacking an ally could kick her out of stealth, while translocator puts her back into it while also teleporting her within the locators radius or a set radius near the closest teamate. I like sombs, but she can be a nuisance no matter the composition.
Some of these changes are genuinely pretty original and haven’t been seen in ow before. I’m lowkey tired of them making characters that are just combinations of other heroes, take notes ow devs!
I’ve noticed that for all the support characters, none of them have anything besides healing, even though there are other thing available for team play! Like Ana’s sleep dart, Lucio’s speed, kiriko’s suzu, Juno’s flight. There’s a bunch of other things that make supports useful besides healing. (This is, of course, excluding the things he didn’t change about the original characters, like junkrat’s passive) Cool ideas though! It’s fun to think of OW characters fulfilling a role they weren’t explicitly designed for. Feels like an April fools gamemode lol
ngl 2 things. hanzo needs to be updated because Blizzard brought back his one shot, and the Moira one just feels like he got killed too many times by dps Moiras, so he removed it. and you can add a version of sombra cause her infinite invisible is gone and u don't have a button anymore
25:28 Trove's Chloromancer class. Their ultimate is a big flower that grows out of the ground and heals. Probably not what ur talking about, but its what it reminded me of.
I would have liked to see a 300 hp DPS Doomfist where the only two changes are Metor Strike replaces his block and he can use it like Recall and his ult is just Brig Rally and reverts him back to Overwatch 1 Doomfist for like 10 seconds
The one problem I have with the new supports is that there’s not much utility abilities and just healing, giving more inflated numbers in an already inflated dmg and healing game
I wish Sym was really a support. I feel like she would be easier to balance having them focus on her utility than her utility damage balance. I wouldn’t want healing turrets because Illari already has it and having 3 of them might feel a bit weird. Her beam could both heal and damage, keeping the charge up system. She would have a new passive called shield generator where a small percentage of damage she does is converted into temporary shields for nearby teammates. Also TP has more range and lasts 1 second longer. Let me know what you think about this rework. Also I LOVE the changes you made!!!
Kiriko (Dps) Passive:Assassins technique When kiri is crouched becomes invisible and moves 50% faster Passive:wall climb Swift step:can now teleport to enemies,increases cooldown Protection suzu:changed to dramatic exit,throws a smokescreen which make kiri invisible and 50% faster for 3 seconds Kunai:damage unchanged Kitsune rush:no longer affects allies and no longer increases attack speed,enemies in the foxes path are marked with foxes den debuff Foxes den:slowed by 20% and take double damage from Kiris kunai
The mauga change in the comments balance video is actualy kinda cool. Like. Maybe not as bad close up. Not as strong further. But if we balance the heal of hits, and not damage. I mean he would get the same amount of heal despite the range. And can ont be increase with damage boosts. Maybe that's a way to balance him out. Also other way to balance him out I would love to try. He get his old heal back. Shorter cooldown and longer duration. But he heal 110% from single shots. And 50% from double shots. This way you arnt always trying to get up close. Also change his double fire to shoot 25% faster, but 25% less damage. So that you use amo faster without added damage. wich is a big deal for him. I would love a video where you just try to find the most balanced mauga change. By making a mode where pressing interact in the spawn as mauga switch the mauga version you are using. And there are like 6 idk. And it's just a dumb flawed way of finding the most fun mauga to play with or against. No limits obviously.
A neat idea for a gamemode (though you may have already done this before and I missed it) is to ask an AI like ChatGPT to make changes for each hero, whether it be simple balance changes or a complete overhaul to the character and to see what nonsense comes from that.
I feel like Mei could 100% also be a support because of the walls and maybe her ice can be attack and healing like Byron from brawlstars. But her as a tank reminds me of Groot from Marvel Rivals
Mei is already a tank in Heroes of the Storm and fits extremely well there. She’s basically the ideal tank where she isn’t 3 times the size and over double health just to be “tanky”.
I wish I said something different but was too lazy to redo the voice over. I just don’t like how he can one shot some heroes but not others. I just wish it was more consistent with heroes that are super close in hp
I haven't seen the video, I've never seen the channel and I won't because I'm about to sleep but I had to enter the video to give a like and subscribe after seeing sombra being removed in the thumbnail. Keep making good content, I'll finally sleep peacefully, thanks.
I was genuinely really sad when Echo came out because my conspiracy theory had been that “what if she’s a tank and uses her huge wings as shields?” I knew it was probably a pipe dream but it would’ve been so cool…
@@plum8503 I didn’t think it was just going to be “she has a shield so she’s a tank” I just thought that specifically would be a neat part of a tank kit.
God i wish i could make these, i think id give weaver a shotgun of thorns somehow since its called "Thorn volley" or whatever Or just single shot, long reload, with a snipers damage, can make his own vantage point
Both are simple if you know how add projectiles work. I sadly can’t explain it over a youtube comment but can always join either mine or the Overwatch workshop discord for help
A cool idea wpuld have been lucio tank like ball style. High hp and speed keep damage similar since its strong now and have like heal amp be like queen or ball and give temp hp to allies
calling Hanzo useless after he lost 25 health. god I hate how much everyone overexaggerates buffs and nerfs. Hanzo is still a strong pick in game, and it's a good thing he's both more vulnerable and incapable of literal one shots (but lets be honest, 240 damage is still close enough, might as well be a one shot)
Can you make a custom map with genji being able to charge his primary fire button for a few seconds to unleash a single dragon blade attack, sort like Megaman X6 ninja armor, where his charged shot is a blade slash
I can easily do the damage, the visual for the sword swing is hard since I’d need to make one (which won’t look good) or have a dummy bot genji always there and I just dislike doing that. That it is a really cool idea I might try if I can figure it out
Sombra needs to have indefinite invisibility removed, that's a MUST. ALSO, her virus should do less damage. And her hack shouldn't be auto-aim. It should take twice as long to hack and she should have to consistently aim at you. If you escape her crosshairs, the hack should restart from the beginning. Then I'd be satisfied and would stop calling her a cheatcode in character form. Until that happens, she should just be removed. She ruins the entire game.
Moira being 'switched' to the support role is just hilariously slanderous!
I understand ✅
Acknowledged ✅
Understood ✅
And it's most real thing ever 😂
I love how Sombra actually has legit reasons for being disabled in this and it isn't just "because I f*cking hate Sombra"
Sombra is my most played hero and is close to one of my best. I seriously just got frustrated coding with her passive and got frustrated with Ashe’s ability so used Sombra to reset Ashe and got a funny thumbnail out of it XD
@@KendelR good on ya nonetheless for giving proper explanation where others would simply just say "I excluded X heroes because f*ck x heroes"
@@KendelR why couldnt she be a mirrorwatch support?
Should’ve been hammond
@@KendelR her passive only procs on teleport now, so I think you can throw her back in if you can
Removing sombra is the best thing a overwatch workshop has ever done.
100% agree.
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truth has been spoken
@rizzlernah bro now that’s just skill issue lmfao
@rizzler Skill issue
Ramattra's passive should allow him heal his teammates by giving headpats
MISSED OPPORTUNITY. I can’t believe I replaced head pats with a mercy beam
Crazy Diamond!?!?!?
accept it, you clicked on the video because he removed sombra
I’m a sombra main
👍
Bingo
no
YES YES YES
I love how this is probably how Mirrorwatch Ana and Widow would play.
Also, maybe Roadhog's ult should do more knockback and less damage?
I actually never played Mirrorwatch so I wouldn’t know lol. As for the roadhog ult, I thought about that but was worried it’d be too much crowd control for a support. Then again, this Gamemode is so unbalanced already I don’t think people would mind xD
not really, mirrorwatch widow had a shield instead of a venom mine, and kept her one shot
@@dixinormus8522 I just think it's funny how they swapped roles, but obviously they couldn't swap roles in the actual mirrorwatch mode.
1:17 Bro just described the normal Ana strat
One thing i learned in this video. Bastion has a different hello animation while in configuration mode.
Same, and it's his old healing arm
31 minutes of KendelR is splendiferous.
Nox!
:0 the junkrat fanboy, Nox himself showed up so this video truly must worth it
Didn't think I was gonna find you in the wild lol shouldn't you be working on a R34 tier list bro?
>Sombra removed
Sold.
Should’ve been ball
@milqshakez balls rules
sombra being removed is the best part
@kendelR I have always wondered how many people actually want Sombra removed would you mind doing a poll to see who wants Sombra remove from the game I would do it if I could but I don't have a following please and thank you ❤
@callumfinigan5366 I would be a resounding he's
Everytime a sopbra is in a game I get unreasonably annoyed, even if I haven't seen them yet
@@Void-y6j ahhhh the schizophrenia
Removing ball wouldve been better
@@milqshakez nah
Ball is fine
I’m a little disappointed how a lot of the supports don’t have support abilities beyond healing
Yeah, I should’ve added more stuff but it just took a lot of time making the healing part, that I got burnt out and didn’t add more
People regularly complain about the support abilities that don’t involve healing. Suzu, lamp, antinade, discord, damage boost, etc all get cried about despite being staples in MMOs and MOBAS.
FPS players are weak and can’t handle anything that can’t be solved by just shooting lol.
25:24 pvz garden warfare sunflower has an ability that places down a potted sunflower that shoots healing suns that you can pick up if you go near it
Hanzo is my favorite cosmetic in Overwatch 2
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6:30 Introduciiiing... TOKI THE HEALING NUKE
Moria staying in support role is peak overwatch humor
12:38 KENDELR my guy, you're free to appropriate whatever ideas I spit out out there. Crediting is more than enough :D
Nice lol. I don’t know how badly it’d conflict with the Gamemode tho
I would say the Mirror watch version of Sombs could work which made her more a support than a dps, while keeping some of her kit like the stealth, hack boosting a players healthpool with overhealth and slightly increasing damage could work (and heals the target if not full health) while her ult does pretty much the same enabling her team more but also locks enemies out of burst damage instead of outright just disabling abilities, like heals for half/quarter damage but also prevents half/quarter as damage reduction damage from happening to the team.
and if need be hacking an ally could kick her out of stealth, while translocator puts her back into it while also teleporting her within the locators radius or a set radius near the closest teamate.
I like sombs, but she can be a nuisance no matter the composition.
I really should’ve played the mirrorwatch Gamemode lol
@@KendelR I think they're bringing it back soon!
@@KendelRI was thinking about that lmao, I know I was probably for the bit but I would love to see something like the mirrorwatch sombra
Some of these changes are genuinely pretty original and haven’t been seen in ow before. I’m lowkey tired of them making characters that are just combinations of other heroes, take notes ow devs!
Thanks. I spend quite awhile looking at comments and making my own ideas while also avoiding making something already done before if possible
I’ve noticed that for all the support characters, none of them have anything besides healing, even though there are other thing available for team play! Like Ana’s sleep dart, Lucio’s speed, kiriko’s suzu, Juno’s flight. There’s a bunch of other things that make supports useful besides healing. (This is, of course, excluding the things he didn’t change about the original characters, like junkrat’s passive)
Cool ideas though! It’s fun to think of OW characters fulfilling a role they weren’t explicitly designed for. Feels like an April fools gamemode lol
I like it but u feel for the support you could give them more ultity than just healing
True. I just had trouble adding stuff due to bugs I didn’t know how to fix
The moment he showed sombra removed i died
Stay blessed with her removed. 😌
If you died, wouldn’t that mean you’re Sombra
"a lot of the supports perform really well in the dps role" well yeah no shit since most of the supports are just dps heroes with barely nerfed damage
You're expressing your "frustrations" in the wrong place: this is literally just a person that makes silly workshop modes
@@inlandthempire.6932He's not even wrong tho
Well, ya’ll said you didn’t want “no aim, no brain” healbots so now you’ve got dps that heal. Accept your fate.
yeah? well what do you want us to do when a stupid sombra or jq run it down and both the dps also the tank doing gwad knows what{
@@blissthelioness1180so based actually LOL
After removing sombra you are now my favorite Kendal
Lol
I had a dream a while ago where there was like 3 new tanks and one of them was just a big Ashe
I love making stuff like this in the workshop, and I gotta say, the urge to just remove sombra is real
ngl 2 things. hanzo needs to be updated because Blizzard brought back his one shot, and the Moira one just feels like he got killed too many times by dps Moiras, so he removed it. and you can add a version of sombra cause her infinite invisible is gone and u don't have a button anymore
All the support changes are just healing a metric fuckton. I think other ways of supporting would have been cool!
Wish I added more support non-healing abilities too
I laughed in satisfaction when I saw the Sombra removal on the thumbnail😂😂😂 Best thing to ever happen in Overwatch
Sombra removed = peak gameplay
25:28
Trove's Chloromancer class. Their ultimate is a big flower that grows out of the ground and heals. Probably not what ur talking about, but its what it reminded me of.
Reaper would be cooler if his shotguns healed his entire team, like his lifesteal would work for the ENTIRE team
I thought about that but I didn’t want it to be too similar Brig inspire
Sombra removed would be the greatest development in Overwatch history.
Doomfist: they called me a madman
ammo steal is actually a really interesting idea
So... Sigma's shield is now a smaller version of Marvel Rivals' Magneto ult
that's what i was thinking too 🤣
Wait really lol? I’ve not gotten access to marvel rivals so I wouldn’t knoe
@@KendelR basically Magneto's ult absorbs damage and forms a giant magnetic ball with as much damage as much was absorbed
12:07 this makes me really wish juno was a dps 😭
I would have liked to see a 300 hp DPS Doomfist where the only two changes are Metor Strike replaces his block and he can use it like Recall and his ult is just Brig Rally and reverts him back to Overwatch 1 Doomfist for like 10 seconds
Removal of Sombra? Sign me up. Also W Bastion changes.
Funny thing about mei having a tank kit is that they made her a tank in HotS with a wildly different tool kit.
Giving Juno a nuclear bomb is crazy
-> Sees sombra removed
-> Sub and like before even watching the video
1 second in, moving Sombra to the remove role, was a brilliant choice.
I clicked because sombra had been removed 😭
The one problem I have with the new supports is that there’s not much utility abilities and just healing, giving more inflated numbers in an already inflated dmg and healing game
I wish Sym was really a support. I feel like she would be easier to balance having them focus on her utility than her utility damage balance.
I wouldn’t want healing turrets because Illari already has it and having 3 of them might feel a bit weird. Her beam could both heal and damage, keeping the charge up system. She would have a new passive called shield generator where a small percentage of damage she does is converted into temporary shields for nearby teammates. Also TP has more range and lasts 1 second longer. Let me know what you think about this rework.
Also I LOVE the changes you made!!!
I like Sym as a Dps already so I wouldn’t change her, but if we had this version of Sym, I wouldn’t mind either
Missed opportunity to make Roadhog a DPS, since they were testing it during Overwatch 2 Beta
Kiriko (Dps)
Passive:Assassins technique
When kiri is crouched becomes invisible and moves 50% faster
Passive:wall climb
Swift step:can now teleport to enemies,increases cooldown
Protection suzu:changed to dramatic exit,throws a smokescreen which make kiri invisible and 50% faster for 3 seconds
Kunai:damage unchanged
Kitsune rush:no longer affects allies and no longer increases attack speed,enemies in the foxes path are marked with foxes den debuff
Foxes den:slowed by 20% and take double damage from Kiris kunai
*that just sounds like sombra without hacks. You want sombra without hacks*
@@Jahito_EBTsounds good!
The mauga change in the comments balance video is actualy kinda cool. Like. Maybe not as bad close up. Not as strong further.
But if we balance the heal of hits, and not damage. I mean he would get the same amount of heal despite the range. And can ont be increase with damage boosts.
Maybe that's a way to balance him out.
Also other way to balance him out I would love to try. He get his old heal back. Shorter cooldown and longer duration. But he heal 110% from single shots. And 50% from double shots. This way you arnt always trying to get up close.
Also change his double fire to shoot 25% faster, but 25% less damage. So that you use amo faster without added damage. wich is a big deal for him.
I would love a video where you just try to find the most balanced mauga change. By making a mode where pressing interact in the spawn as mauga switch the mauga version you are using. And there are like 6 idk. And it's just a dumb flawed way of finding the most fun mauga to play with or against. No limits obviously.
So the supports being dps and dps being tank is a normal overwatch game
Heroes that became suppors could have some more utillity, istead of just healing shit lol
should have made moiras healing a flamethrower
You know what, that would’ve been cool. I got zero clue how you’d detect that in the workshop besides launching small temporary projectiles but still
Moira being moved to support made me laugh
An invisible (wo)man sleeping in you bed, who are you gonna call?
27:57 "Venom Vaccine" is just the wrong name for that ability, because "Vernon Antidote" was right there... 👀
I had a different name for it but stuttered and said the wrong thing lol. I forgot what I called it but your name does make more sense
this comment is confusing me
Seeing my boy doom back on dps. Im here for it.
The mercy changes really remind me of willow from paladins, it looks so fun
A neat idea for a gamemode (though you may have already done this before and I missed it) is to ask an AI like ChatGPT to make changes for each hero, whether it be simple balance changes or a complete overhaul to the character and to see what nonsense comes from that.
Question during the doom showcase you said you can import what ever doom rework you like into this custom how do you do that?
I feel like Mei could 100% also be a support because of the walls and maybe her ice can be attack and healing like Byron from brawlstars. But her as a tank reminds me of Groot from Marvel Rivals
Mei is already a tank in Heroes of the Storm and fits extremely well there. She’s basically the ideal tank where she isn’t 3 times the size and over double health just to be “tanky”.
I love that bigget torb is just everage size
Before watching this I'd have told you a "sniper tank" would be impossible, but you kinda pulled it off with this version of ashe
Ashe doesnt really snipe in this Gamemode. I’ve turned Roadhog into a sniper and it works if you can hit shots
"hanzo cant do anything anymore" after they just buffed him inadvertently by reducing a bunch of heroes hp to 225 again lol
I wish I said something different but was too lazy to redo the voice over. I just don’t like how he can one shot some heroes but not others. I just wish it was more consistent with heroes that are super close in hp
i’m surprised there isn’t anyone talking about junkrat, i think there should be some type of hero SIMILAR to what his kit is here!!
Weaver as hitscan is crazy
31:18 he just like me fr fr
I think it would be hella dope if Lucio could bounce on heads and get a team kill with a pogo stick 😭🙏🙏
Gonna give this to my grandchildren and tell them it was overwatch 2
This Gamemode is my favorite one I’ve made
I love these! But I do wish that most of the healers don’t just heal, but do other buffs.
Should’ve made it so lucio does damage over time to enemies inside the range of crossfade
I haven't seen the video, I've never seen the channel and I won't because I'm about to sleep but I had to enter the video to give a like and subscribe after seeing sombra being removed in the thumbnail.
Keep making good content, I'll finally sleep peacefully, thanks.
Lmao
I was genuinely really sad when Echo came out because my conspiracy theory had been that “what if she’s a tank and uses her huge wings as shields?” I knew it was probably a pipe dream but it would’ve been so cool…
I mean with that logic you could call Genji a tank with his deflect, but that's honestly true Genji best tank.
@@plum8503 I didn’t think it was just going to be “she has a shield so she’s a tank” I just thought that specifically would be a neat part of a tank kit.
@@pidgeonpatrol861 that makes more sense yea
i feel like sombra without her stealth would be just fine
If only passives were smooth to disable
@@KendelR fr
I saw Sombra "removed" and I clicked the video. Automatically
God i wish i could make these, i think id give weaver a shotgun of thorns somehow since its called "Thorn volley" or whatever
Or just single shot, long reload, with a snipers damage, can make his own vantage point
Both are simple if you know how add projectiles work. I sadly can’t explain it over a youtube comment but can always join either mine or the Overwatch workshop discord for help
@KendelR oh? Well thats good to know, ill actually look into it a bit more, thank you
Junker Queen would have been a Support, just for the lolz.
Sombra removed is the best thing for ow. They need to stop trying to make her work and flush her down the toilet for good.
Giving Hog anti is so freaking ironic
A cool idea wpuld have been lucio tank like ball style. High hp and speed keep damage similar since its strong now and have like heal amp be like queen or ball and give temp hp to allies
There’s some opportunities I missed out on
The rein clips will be legendary
As a sombra main, yeah, this is the correct choice actually
Tall mommy Brigitte
As a Lucio main thank you for giving him the buffs that blizzard are too scared to give him
lol. The boop buff increase was fun to play with
As a very healing oriented moira... this feels op. Like I'm aware it's meant as a joke but no lie I can keep my team alive like this way easier lmao
You should make liveweavers needles make people explode if they get shot enough like in halo
That’s cool. Maybe if he gets a kill the target explodes and a chain reaction happens
13:19 should’ve made suzu a bomb
There was already like 3 grenades so had to try something different and someone wanted a suzu speed boost so I did
@@KendelR ahh okay, i gotchu
As a Moira main, I am actually really disappointed not to see a DPS conversion of her. I get the joke, just makes me sad.
Darn. I played this version of Moira and I actually didn’t mind it and people didn’t get mad at Moira. Sorry for joke changing her
calling Hanzo useless after he lost 25 health. god I hate how much everyone overexaggerates buffs and nerfs. Hanzo is still a strong pick in game, and it's a good thing he's both more vulnerable and incapable of literal one shots (but lets be honest, 240 damage is still close enough, might as well be a one shot)
finally Bastion as a tank!! I always thought of him as that role even tho he's a DPS in the actual game
It ended up being fun playing him too
We need more super unbalanced everything type of games, I find them a lot of fun ngl
This Gamemode was great when we played it today
Better hero balance than from current official ow2 balance team
27:57 "Venom Vaccine"
It should've been called The Antidote, xD
Both my mains are bugged
This entire channel feels like Sigma's fever dreams
shabungaloo bullying simulator
Ramattra be like “Crazy Diamond!!!”
Can you make a custom map with genji being able to charge his primary fire button for a few seconds to unleash a single dragon blade attack, sort like Megaman X6 ninja armor, where his charged shot is a blade slash
I can easily do the damage, the visual for the sword swing is hard since I’d need to make one (which won’t look good) or have a dummy bot genji always there and I just dislike doing that. That it is a really cool idea I might try if I can figure it out
What if doom does more dmg to single targets so if the team is grouped up he just doesnt 1 punch man them all
Woah is that me in the video?
Hellothere
Sombra needs to have indefinite invisibility removed, that's a MUST.
ALSO, her virus should do less damage.
And her hack shouldn't be auto-aim. It should take twice as long to hack and she should have to consistently aim at you. If you escape her crosshairs, the hack should restart from the beginning.
Then I'd be satisfied and would stop calling her a cheatcode in character form. Until that happens, she should just be removed. She ruins the entire game.