My Recycling bin on my PC is renamed to Toxic Landfill because I'm not letting Windows propagate me into thinking such an amazing species as us, is a virus
a memory test usually is designed to test if a memory chip could hold static data and if changing a memory cell does not change data in the adjacent cells, etc. To accomplish that a program tries to store bit patterns into memory and checks if those have been stored correctly. Then it moves data around checking if nothing else is changing, etc, etc. I hope you got the idea. Love your videos, btw. Keep up great work!
Polaris doesn't have memory(MVDD) and memory controller (MVDDCI) temp sensors. They only have gpu edge and gpu hotspot temps afaik and I've fixed a lot of these XFX carda. In 99% of cases, the mosfets fail or burn.
19:38 ... always the same... people get Professional at their job, then don't feel like doing it no more, then we suffer because we pay top dollars for amateurs/begginers/rookies/greenhorns...ect... while pros are tired of their jobs. NOT ALL, but most. Just putting that out there. Thx man !
The Rx580 was just a refresh of the Rx480 , same architecture, same amount of compute units, TMUs, ROPs , same everything. The only difference was a slight bump in clocks resulting in about a 5% performance increase and a TDP increase from 150W to 185W. That might explain why Superposition reports it as 480, for all intents and purposes it is just an overclocked 480.
Pretty much the R9 390x, RX480, RX580, RX590... as long as similar VRAM amounts I know the 480 you could get either 4 or 8G VRAM. all performed similar.
You need a 'reference clocks ' 480 (blower) sorta card to get down to 150 watts, or undervolt a good silicon lottery example at slightly higher clocks. . 1120 baseclock -1266 'boostclock' is reference.. The rx 4000 gpu chips started out as a laptop design. The rx 580's were sold with physically bigger coolers. Past 'reference' Mhz they ALL hit the exponential power wall problem (who would sell a desktop gpu chip clocked further below that issue?) - a 10% frequency increase requires a 10% V bump, = 20% more watts and only results in 5% more frames per second. They get thirsty past reference clocks. Fast. I run an rx 480 nitro I bought new (still fine for star trek online) and I clocked it as far as 1380 Mhz.. Running benchmarks the noise was a joke, the watts was around 220 .. for fxck all. Tweaking the vram improved minimums by 20%. I dont remember a 'reference clocks' or blower style rx 580. I know there are specs at ~ 1340 Mhz but the cherry picked 580 gpu chip cards were running 1400+Mhz . 230 watts. . It says something about global foundries (even with the bigger metal coolers) there are so many of the cards still running.. (it also says something about radeon, because of the RX 590, you will likely get driver and software updates for another year or so on a 2016 rx 480.)
I found the MSI and XFX versions were very rugged. I mined on those 470s and 580s for 4 years. I sold them to someone else when mining profits petered out. They are still working today. The only thing ever changed on them was the fans, a rear heat sink added with thermal pads to the rear plate. "It's Tandy Tough!"
Speaking of RX 580. I have an MSI GAMING X 8GB card that is being retired at the end of the week. Worth cleaning up, replacing paste and pads and reselling?
Oh, it works ;) Playing some Cyberpunk. New parts don't arrive till tomorrow. Just curious if this card is even in demand anymore. It is capable. Just starting to lag for the "latest" titles.
By the way, love the videos. I just got into trace repair. Working on repairing old consoles and other electronics. Maybe I'll get into repairing GFX cards at some point. Dunno.
Reboot so HKEY\LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet gets backed up. It's only then, that Windows adds new driver to Last Known Good Configuration. Until then, Windows will drop any driver that hangs on boot.
Something that may help you speed things up and be easier for you is to Install 2 different windows partitions on separate hard drives, then have your boot drive for your linux testing programs and have grub with linux show linux testing OS and then the 2 separate windows partition that have AMD and nvidia drivers already installed so you don't have to do anything else. Also in linux, when typing commands and dealing with files, bash has the auto complete function by hitting tab to finish the command out or file you're looking for out. You may have already known about it but just noticed.. Cheers!!
Good idea. Can we agree that it costs you at least one workday (8h, lets be socialists!:P) to find out how to set up that system[1]? Lets be generous and assume 5m for reinstalling the needed graphics driver suite (empty test systems are fast at installing and rebooting, as we have seen ourselves!). So practically it is equal to set up a second system or switch drivers (480 minutes / 5 minutes = 96 times) around 100 times. Hmmm ... And now you have two systems. New graphic cards come to market, tests are updated, operating systems want to be updated. Who does maintain the second system? And why only two ("dual")? With NVidia there are several driver suites alone (consumer RTX, older generations Gxx, professional cards, A.I. accelerators, you get it). There are other manufacturers than AMD and NVIDIA ... so who does maintain all of those systems? Do the calculations, then your idea doesn't look that good and is debatable, or? My apologies for being a spoilsport:P But reality and especially math+business is a b*tch! [1] I'm working with Linux since 1995, before Unix and CP/M ... Yeah this is anecdotal evidence and can just mean that I am bad at setting up multi-boot systems ... ,BUT if you are doing this for the first time, ONE day is a generous estimation. Also that you most likely make things worse, a.k.a. erasing something or making the whole system unbootable than that magically everything goes great. Or?:) Be honest! Edit: Just an addition. Testing-systems are really unproblematic to boot from USB stick(In the meaning of every graphics driver related system on ONE separate stick), which are fast nowadays. There is no need for big data. If you wanna get fancy?: SSDs in a switchable/hotswap tray. The problem with operating system/software maintenance stays! Really, The reason I avoid dual-booting production-critical (or repair) systems like the devil holy water is that they are so fragile. Don't tell me that grub updates always run smoothly ... or that you not have to be an expert and often RTFM with some updates. That is time intensive! Or worse: WINDOZE is known for effing up bootsectors, boot-orders, dual boot setups, etc. like a boss. That is OUT OF OUR CONTROL! I don't want that to happen ... I want instead to begin with the work and don't mess around with the system.
@@dieSpinnt I've been with linux since 1991, I look for efficiencies wherever I can. If the test rig is not on the internet, who cares about updating, or you can update on an off day. You're acting like he's gong to daily driver both OSes at the same time. It takes more than 5 min to do clean installs of AMD and NVIDIA drivers, you aren't pulling my leg on that one. Anyways, you comment noted and while you raise good points, you shoot the entire thing down with extra garbage that can be eliminated in order to prove your point (socialist much?)
@@northwestrepair If you could be so kind, do you happen to know how nVidia (PCI-E) VBIOS are packed? I can't locate the bitmap font, prob because it has been compressed. I don't want to change clocks, volts, or fans, just swap font from CP437 to CP866. Thank you.
Nice work its fun to look ur videos. Real pro there fixing stuff , but in linux hit tab and computer autofill rest example pico mem and tab write memfa etc handy and much faster to use =) good job still keep it nice and eat much candy =)
i love the job your doing it look so easy for you but for me i anderstand juste a bit but not like your doing but dang dude i love it so much keep the good job
The memory chips didn’t fail because of the stacked pads either the person didn’t have the right thickness or was having problems with it and put slightly thicker pads to put more pressure on the memory chips, hoping to get the GPU working again but the stack pads as long as they were the right thickness nothing wrong with that. I personally wouldn’t do it but in a bind, I would do it to test then change at a later date. The only way possible that the memory chip stacked pads on it for a long time it will create enough pressure to short out the BGA, that’s a well-known fact. But if too much pressure was on the VRAM chips more likely the card would not boot or give out errors.
If you even slightly too many pads, you will bow the card. The cooler still clamps with the same amount of pressure, forcing the board down. But the built up pads doesn't let the rest of the board bottom out. Leading to a curved pcb. Rarely does anyone who stacks pads know the actual clearance numbers. Plastic feeler gauges are cheap and usually help.
I also have a rx580 8gb it's been good for 3years but now at full load it reaches up to 85 degrees, other than removing dust from the heatsink and fans i haven't done any maintenance on it, i'm planning on reapplying thermal paste and changing thermal pads, what brands are good?
How can I get in touch with you I have 2 EVGA 980ti cards I would like to see about getting repaired or at least getting one working card between the two.
Is furmark a bit less demanding? My xfx 580 plays around 70 to 80 when in games with 85% fan speed. You would burn your hand if you kept it on the backplate for more than 2 seconds and the glass side panel gets pretty toasty so it's no thermal interface issue i assume. Are these temps normal? What can i do to improve the temps?
First off, is the card bought new or used? If it was used there's a chance that different sized thermal pads were installed, hence the heatsink not making proper contact with the GPU core. If it was new, you'd probably need to re-paste the GPU core.
I love watching your videos but please block the sun when you stream. It is throwing the contrast out to lunch and is hard to view. Keep streaming I have learned a lot
Hi. I build computers and happened to have few broken GPU. Are you interested on them? I’ll ship them to you. You make a repair video and you can keep them. I’m giving heads up. They are the ones you hate. AMD. Let me know. I love your videos and the way you describe everything in your videos. Thanks.
yeah why not. Ill do my best but make no promises. If there is nothing to fix, there is nothing to make video about if you know what i mean. You can contact me by following links in the description. Thanks !
Yet another card saved from the landfill. Love your work and keep it up. Love from Norway
Thanks again!
I do like landfill, but it is good that the card can be used for someone
My Recycling bin on my PC is renamed to Toxic Landfill because I'm not letting Windows propagate me into thinking such an amazing species as us, is a virus
a memory test usually is designed to test if a memory chip could hold static data and if changing a memory cell does not change data in the adjacent cells, etc.
To accomplish that a program tries to store bit patterns into memory and checks if those have been stored correctly. Then it moves data around checking if nothing else is changing, etc, etc.
I hope you got the idea. Love your videos, btw. Keep up great work!
Polaris doesn't have memory(MVDD) and memory controller (MVDDCI) temp sensors.
They only have gpu edge and gpu hotspot temps afaik and I've fixed a lot of these XFX carda.
In 99% of cases, the mosfets fail or burn.
19:38 ... always the same... people get Professional at their job, then don't feel like doing it no more, then we suffer because we pay top dollars for amateurs/begginers/rookies/greenhorns...ect... while pros are tired of their jobs. NOT ALL, but most. Just putting that out there.
Thx man !
The Rx580 was just a refresh of the Rx480 , same architecture, same amount of compute units, TMUs, ROPs , same everything. The only difference was a slight bump in clocks resulting in about a 5% performance increase and a TDP increase from 150W to 185W. That might explain why Superposition reports it as 480, for all intents and purposes it is just an overclocked 480.
Pretty much the R9 390x, RX480, RX580, RX590... as long as similar VRAM amounts I know the 480 you could get either 4 or 8G VRAM. all performed similar.
590 is when amd was going to a new node. Again same core.
@@rartolak And more power.
4gb vram to 8gb vram
You need a 'reference clocks ' 480 (blower) sorta card to get down to 150 watts, or undervolt a good silicon lottery example at slightly higher clocks.
. 1120 baseclock -1266 'boostclock' is reference..
The rx 4000 gpu chips started out as a laptop design.
The rx 580's were sold with physically bigger coolers.
Past 'reference' Mhz they ALL hit the exponential power wall problem
(who would sell a desktop gpu chip clocked further below that issue?)
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a 10% frequency increase requires a 10% V bump, = 20% more watts and only results in 5% more frames per second.
They get thirsty past reference clocks. Fast.
I run an rx 480 nitro I bought new (still fine for star trek online) and I clocked it as far as 1380 Mhz..
Running benchmarks the noise was a joke, the watts was around 220 ..
for fxck all.
Tweaking the vram improved minimums by 20%.
I dont remember a 'reference clocks' or blower style rx 580.
I know there are specs at ~ 1340 Mhz but the cherry picked 580 gpu chip cards were running 1400+Mhz .
230 watts. .
It says something about global foundries (even with the bigger metal coolers) there are so many of the cards still running..
(it also says something about radeon, because of the RX 590, you will likely get driver and software updates for another year or so on a 2016 rx 480.)
Love your work man, greetings from NZ!
Awesome, thank you!
Nicely done. Thanks for the upload.
Thank you too!
Always fun to watch you work, thank you for putting these together.
No core, no video. LOL. Hey, its about the process that's entertaining!
Love these long videos , thanks for your amazing work !
Damn straight you should never work for free! Keep up the great work..
Thanks for sharing with us!
i think the first one would be cool just as wall art
Commenting a comment because this channel is worth commenting.
yeah, thanks !
A lot faster than the GTX670 that I'm using currently in my old mac pro. Nice.
Old or not, I still like the 580s.
I found the MSI and XFX versions were very rugged. I mined on those 470s and 580s for 4 years. I sold them to someone else when mining profits petered out. They are still working today. The only thing ever changed on them was the fans, a rear heat sink added with thermal pads to the rear plate. "It's Tandy Tough!"
i love watching these, they make my brain relax and process
All your videos are educative
Invaluable resource of knowledge right here, Free learning while He's earning, I like it a lot.
later same day video was posted:
10+ ppl recognized this card as their own.
:D
Thank you for all your hard work.
Cheers m8.
Wow that's some technical repairs!
Speaking of RX 580. I have an MSI GAMING X 8GB card that is being retired at the end of the week. Worth cleaning up, replacing paste and pads and reselling?
If it works
Oh, it works ;) Playing some Cyberpunk. New parts don't arrive till tomorrow. Just curious if this card is even in demand anymore. It is capable. Just starting to lag for the "latest" titles.
By the way, love the videos. I just got into trace repair. Working on repairing old consoles and other electronics. Maybe I'll get into repairing GFX cards at some point. Dunno.
Reboot so HKEY\LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet gets backed up. It's only then, that Windows adds new driver to Last Known Good Configuration. Until then, Windows will drop any driver that hangs on boot.
Something that may help you speed things up and be easier for you is to Install 2 different windows partitions on separate hard drives, then have your boot drive for your linux testing programs and have grub with linux show linux testing OS and then the 2 separate windows partition that have AMD and nvidia drivers already installed so you don't have to do anything else.
Also in linux, when typing commands and dealing with files, bash has the auto complete function by hitting tab to finish the command out or file you're looking for out. You may have already known about it but just noticed.. Cheers!!
Mind if I save your profile picture it's making me LOL
@@nicekeyboardalan6972 go ahead, its all yours
you can save it if you want to
Good idea. Can we agree that it costs you at least one workday (8h, lets be socialists!:P) to find out how to set up that system[1]? Lets be generous and assume 5m for reinstalling the needed graphics driver suite (empty test systems are fast at installing and rebooting, as we have seen ourselves!). So practically it is equal to set up a second system or switch drivers (480 minutes / 5 minutes = 96 times) around 100 times. Hmmm ... And now you have two systems. New graphic cards come to market, tests are updated, operating systems want to be updated. Who does maintain the second system? And why only two ("dual")? With NVidia there are several driver suites alone (consumer RTX, older generations Gxx, professional cards, A.I. accelerators, you get it). There are other manufacturers than AMD and NVIDIA ... so who does maintain all of those systems? Do the calculations, then your idea doesn't look that good and is debatable, or?
My apologies for being a spoilsport:P But reality and especially math+business is a b*tch!
[1] I'm working with Linux since 1995, before Unix and CP/M ... Yeah this is anecdotal evidence and can just mean that I am bad at setting up multi-boot systems ... ,BUT if you are doing this for the first time, ONE day is a generous estimation. Also that you most likely make things worse, a.k.a. erasing something or making the whole system unbootable than that magically everything goes great. Or?:) Be honest!
Edit: Just an addition. Testing-systems are really unproblematic to boot from USB stick(In the meaning of every graphics driver related system on ONE separate stick), which are fast nowadays. There is no need for big data. If you wanna get fancy?: SSDs in a switchable/hotswap tray. The problem with operating system/software maintenance stays!
Really, The reason I avoid dual-booting production-critical (or repair) systems like the devil holy water is that they are so fragile. Don't tell me that grub updates always run smoothly ... or that you not have to be an expert and often RTFM with some updates. That is time intensive! Or worse: WINDOZE is known for effing up bootsectors, boot-orders, dual boot setups, etc. like a boss. That is OUT OF OUR CONTROL! I don't want that to happen ... I want instead to begin with the work and don't mess around with the system.
@@dieSpinnt I've been with linux since 1991, I look for efficiencies wherever I can. If the test rig is not on the internet, who cares about updating, or you can update on an off day. You're acting like he's gong to daily driver both OSes at the same time. It takes more than 5 min to do clean installs of AMD and NVIDIA drivers, you aren't pulling my leg on that one. Anyways, you comment noted and while you raise good points, you shoot the entire thing down with extra garbage that can be eliminated in order to prove your point (socialist much?)
@@ChrisFaulkner Thanks, Lori.
wonderful video , you best repair video cards shop
It says 470/480 because 580 is pretty much re-leased 480
Vietnam with love
nice to see you do work .
Thanks 👍
awaiting intel arc repair :-) NorthwestClinic ;-)
I wish!
For the first GPU maybe the core with broken memory channel is from that PCB? One removed memory chip kinda hintin at that
AMD cards are always good for something. Just pop the fans out, and you now have a set of cup holders. 😁
That's a good idea!
@@northwestrepair If you could be so kind, do you happen to know how nVidia (PCI-E) VBIOS are packed? I can't locate the bitmap font, prob because it has been compressed. I don't want to change clocks, volts, or fans, just swap font from CP437 to CP866. Thank you.
Nice work its fun to look ur videos. Real pro there fixing stuff , but in linux hit tab and computer autofill rest example pico mem and tab write memfa etc handy and much faster to use =) good job still keep it nice and eat much candy =)
Could you please share the memory testing software for AMD?
modbios.ru/files/Tserver/Tserver_by_modbios_v1.0.9.zip
I'm surprised that you did not make new core from few billions of MOS-FET transistors and other parts :-)
Very controlled. Almost Intentional 😮
Man. The image of your microscope i much better, are you using the anti glare light????
yeah the one i made ?
@@northwestrepair yep..
0:02 Very Bright light you got there
35:16 I was Dying😂
i love the job your doing it look so easy for you but for me i anderstand juste a bit but not like your doing but dang dude i love it so much keep the good job
nice mystery repair
The memory chips didn’t fail because of the stacked pads either the person didn’t have the right thickness or was having problems with it and put slightly thicker pads to put more pressure on the memory chips, hoping to get the GPU working again but the stack pads as long as they were the right thickness nothing wrong with that. I personally wouldn’t do it but in a bind, I would do it to test then change at a later date.
The only way possible that the memory chip stacked pads on it for a long time it will create enough pressure to short out the BGA, that’s a well-known fact. But if too much pressure was on the VRAM chips more likely the card would not boot or give out errors.
If you even slightly too many pads, you will bow the card. The cooler still clamps with the same amount of pressure, forcing the board down. But the built up pads doesn't let the rest of the board bottom out. Leading to a curved pcb. Rarely does anyone who stacks pads know the actual clearance numbers. Plastic feeler gauges are cheap and usually help.
Remember that night we were drinking 😂
Hi all,
What software is being used to test the memory on the GPU and where can I download it?
thats why its a risk to buy second hand and from amazon where amazon isnt the seller
I also have a rx580 8gb it's been good for 3years but now at full load it reaches up to 85 degrees, other than removing dust from the heatsink and fans i haven't done any maintenance on it, i'm planning on reapplying thermal paste and changing thermal pads, what brands are good?
Probably flashed from 480 to 580
I'd buy that 2080ti shroud off you if it would fit a 2080ti hydrocopper
(the same one you got from me for repair).
i love u
thanx for helpfull vedio
It seems like your light source is constantly moving.
If the D channel isn't working the ladies are not going to be happy. Don't lose performance.
Why was gpu clock in the 11-1200's. It should be 1400 at least. its not much i know but...
I wish I didn't hate AMD GPUs. I would have more money in my pocket but wouldn't be as productive.
My 580 has the same thing with temps, so it's unlikely a hack
I have the 4080, hopefully it lasts as long as your 580mate
hmmm these are pretty cheap nowadays, that a repair isn't worth it
Hello dude, how are you doing!? Hope you are ok...
ill live
i need help on 2 evga 2080ti
tells me you dont repair now?
trying to learn and build the same tools you have
Yes it does.
Where can i download this gigabyte graphics card test software in your video?
Discord
Where i can get the software that you used to trobleshot the vram ?
Discord
How can I get in touch with you I have 2 EVGA 980ti cards I would like to see about getting repaired or at least getting one working card between the two.
900 cards not worth shipping, let alone fixing
An RX580 is really an RX480
Is furmark a bit less demanding? My xfx 580 plays around 70 to 80 when in games with 85% fan speed. You would burn your hand if you kept it on the backplate for more than 2 seconds and the glass side panel gets pretty toasty so it's no thermal interface issue i assume. Are these temps normal? What can i do to improve the temps?
Furmark less demanding than what ?
First off, is the card bought new or used? If it was used there's a chance that different sized thermal pads were installed, hence the heatsink not making proper contact with the GPU core. If it was new, you'd probably need to re-paste the GPU core.
❤
Beautiful light just saying
You don't live in WA anymore? I always figured you lived in Oregon
No I moved
I love watching your videos but please block the sun when you stream. It is throwing the contrast out to lunch and is hard to view. Keep streaming I have learned a lot
It's the best way to get vitamin D from your screen though
Is the short gone?
Clean your b⚽️llz with brake cleaner. It only stings for a little while. 😁
I really like your voice
sound is to low today
Hi. I build computers and happened to have few broken GPU. Are you interested on them? I’ll ship them to you. You make a repair video and you can keep them. I’m giving heads up. They are the ones you hate. AMD. Let me know. I love your videos and the way you describe everything in your videos. Thanks.
yeah why not.
Ill do my best but make no promises.
If there is nothing to fix, there is nothing to make video about if you know what i mean.
You can contact me by following links in the description. Thanks !
@@northwestrepair I will. I know you’re honest guy and if a video worth to be made you’ll make it definitely. Thanks for the reply.
Close your blind. We can't see much depending where the card is...
can i send you 3 1080s 8gs so you can make them 11 gbs or higher
Why not heat the balls with the mask plate on as everybody else?
Big fat like AS a comment. :p
Repair and sent me the card
added the 100th like :D
Thumbs up for the thumbs down mate! :)
Much appreciated
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