While winning with the best teammates all the time isn't guaranteed, Messi,for sure would have had more goals,more assists and at least 2 to 3 international trophies by now with Spain!!! Great video and pretty much on point!!!👍
2008: Silva - Torres - Messi Iniesta - Senna - Xavi Capdevila - Puyol - Marchena - Ramos 2010: Villa - Messi - Pedro Iniesta - Busquets - Xavi Capdevila - Puyol - Pique - Ramos 2012/2014: Iniesta - Messi - Silva Alonso - Busquets - Xavi Alba - Ramos - Pique - Arbeloa/Azpilicueta 2016 and onward: more and more likely to see Messi as the #10 in a 4-2-3-1 I went by player availability in the finals, btw. A fit David Villa would start over Silva both in 2008 and 2012.
definitely not winning 2014 or 2018, would've still been clapped by holland/chile, if spain learned from their previous mistakes (which they never do because they're idiots) then maybe in 2018 but this all ignores that messi had his chance to prove he was the greatest in 2014 and failed, fraud
At least Messi made it to a World cup final and was the best player of the tournament, unlike an overrated goal poacher who relies on his teammates to win him international trophies!!! That's a real fraud!!!🤪
@@oscarroca4299 •james, muller, robben, hummels, navas, neuer, kroos were all factually better, it is a disgrace of you to try and say messi even had a campaign as remotely good as them •messi was shit vs belgium/netherlands/germany and average vs swiss, ironically for you mascherano carried messi's WC hopes and was the main reason argentina went to the final •ronaldo's contribution to the euros and nations league was x10 more important than messi's contribution to the 2014 world cup, ronaldo can score a hattrick against spain in the world cup while messi struggles to statpad vs iceland/nigeria frauds really shouldn't ever be compared to ronaldo
@@WILL-vi5gb so contributing 6 out of the 8 goals and creating countless chances didn't warrant him winning the player of the tournament. Ronaldo literally never even played that final dude. And Portugal made it through the next round because of the rules that allowed the 3rd team in the group to qualify (a back door)
@@kamogelomokgwe8543 and 5 of them were statpadded against bosnia, nigeria and iran, was poor throughout the KO stages, why is this not obvious? rules aren't an excuse, messi won the WC best player for statpadding in a shit group and doing nothing in the KO = a better example of luck
The fact that he chose Argentina and won the world cup with them is even more special. Ronaldo faced lesser ranked teams in Europe on an average as compared to Messi in South America so we all can just imagine how many he would have scored if he chose Spain.
Stop comparing to Ronaldo, he wasn’t even mentioned and there isn’t even a debate, it’s annoying how people mention Ronaldo or Messi out of nowhere when the topic isn’t even near close also pepsi needed a sugar daddy FIFA to pay their bills for the World Cup trophy
@@mr.gameandwatchoilpanicove452 Haha.. cry more for your entire life just like your Penaldo will.. World Cup has determined the GOAT!!! Also, if you want to continue to argue.. Please give some evidence of how the World Cup was rigged according to you Penaldo fanboys? Please show some concrete vide evidence just like how Real Madrid's threepeat was a robbery. Also, if you don't have some evidence then stop crying. Haha..
Messi would have won every international trophy available if he played for Spain. Not to mention he would've extended Spain's international dominance into 2018 World Cup as well.
I'm not sure about the 2018 World cup , however he'll fix some of their issues, especially when they kept passing the ball non-stop vs russia without end product, they had 1000 passes? XD
@@ZioLegend now that you mention it , I have my doubts too. But I believe against Russia, the end product would be Leo for sure. And his through balls can split the Russian defence.
@TheWeeaboo lmao single handedly? Fuck di maria aguero right? Do you even know what single handedly means? Check out spain vs portugal 3-3 thats single handedly
Angel wym try again 💀💀💀💀Ronaldo doesn’t have to play for a different country to win . Apparently for u idiots Messi would’ve done better at Spain😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂💀💀😂💀😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂💀😂😂💀💀💀💀😂😂4-0
I dont like to call people ignorants but Any one with human brain knows hes greatest whether he wins wc or not, winning cup is team game, a single player no matter how freaking good he is wont win cup, team wins cup.
Messi is like Federer; Naturally graceful and brilliant. Ronaldo is like Nadal; Less talented than Fed but much more hardworking. So ho do you think will have more GS by the end of their career? I'm pretty sure if you are a sane person you won't bet against Rafa, right? That's how ignorant your first statement is.
@@khalidbinwalid4252 hello !! I am a Messi fan but winning 5 BDOr 5 golden boots 4 UEFA best player can't be achieved just by hard work..u need to be seriously good. He is equally as talented as Messi.
Messi playing for Spain with legends like Xavi, Iniesta, Casillas, Raul, Ramos, Villa, Puyol, Pique, Torres, Fabregas is like an alien team. They definitely would've won World Cup 2010, 2014 and 2018 with Uefa Euro 2008, 2012 and 2016.
Yup, cus just like FCB, he NEEDS Legends to carry him to glory HAHAH. How many goals does messi have in world cup knock out stages again vs Higuain? I'll wait (;
@@ricardosuarez6024 lmao I have never seen Ronaldo carry Portugal to the finals but I do have seen messi carry his team to the finals.I'm not taking about scoring goals he is a playmaker and was given the best player award in 2014
@@utkarshsingh8710 that Award was stolen and you know it HAHA. Stolen from James Rodriguez who gave Colombia an Incredible Run, and after James you had 11 better players on the German Team. Keep being delusional and believing he was actually the best player at the tournament. You delusional fan boy. FIFA makes a lot of money out of stupit people like you 🤣🤣🤣
They already won 2010 WC, and 2008 & 2010 Euros without him tho And 2018 WC? Absolutely not even close. In fact they're not winning anything else with him, you cant tell me they're gonna change from stage groups to WC winners in 2014 just for a man. Never happened, Messi never did it.
Someone In The Dark, u do realize that if Messi played for Spain, he would be playing with the exact same Barcelona players If we got a national team comprised mostly of Real Madrid players and Ronaldo played for them then Ronaldo would be undisputed goat
But then Messi doesn't want Spain. He wanted to play for his nation Argentina more than anything. (I'm only saying it as fact, nothing against the video)
@@kennymichaelalanya7134 Messi said that if he didn't play for Argentina he wouldn't have played for any other team so that wouldn't have happened either if they wanted it, Messi is Argentine not Spanish end of story.
Actually it'd have been a very good decision is Higuain would haven taken France instead of Argentina so Messi would've won a WC & couple Copa Americas at least
I would have preferred if Messi had chosen Mexico. We would have won everything and he would undoubtedly be dubbed the GOAT even by Penaldo's most cocksucking fanboys!
@@Hobie02425 not necessarily spain.but if ronaldo was in some teams that could win the wc.he wouldve done it already.and argentina is not a bad team,its only the recent team
Carried them? Lmfao vs who? Iran bosnia and the might Nigeria? HAHAH, where tf was he vs Belgium, Netherlands and Germany. You're gonna act like u didnt see messi 2 clear chances vs Germany either? You're a delusional Messhit fan clearly upset for Messis failure to show up when he is needed the most
Ricardo Suarez Belgium he created the goal, Netherlands he played well overall. Germany his injury was getting worse and he created a couple chances, next...
"Messi never had the courage to leave Barcelona" "Messi turned his back on Argentina and sold himself to Spain for easy glory" Even if Messi had 20 ballon d'ors and 5 World Cups, haters would find other stupid argument to diminish him. That's how it is, unfortunately.
I know, haters don't even know how to debate anyways without making themselves look stupid. Especially Madridista's would be the first ones to say something like that to diminish Messi.
@@jakedelhinski3849 dont talk shit man, the madridistas who hate on messi are mostly little kids. iam a madridista and i got deep respect for messi and love to watch him. he is pain in the ass for us since he started to play in the 1st team of barca, but that doesnt make me hate him. the day he ends his career i will have one eye crying and one eye laughing. crying because as a lover of the beautiful game, i will miss this wonderful, genius player, the laughing eye, because he wont score any more goals to my team. football will not be the same. and @dregongora haters gonna hate, you are right. but this happens to all players
@@ManuSlzno Sorry I wasn't indicating all Madridistas, what I mean't by Madridistas I mean't most of them, not all of them and good to see you are not one of them to defame and disrespect Messi.
@@ManuSlzno And you are right football will never ever without a genius player like Lionel Messi. Messi makes football beautiful, even if he leaves I'm still Barcelona fan since 1999 to the day of my death, but I know that without him not just football wouldn't be the same anymore, but also my team Barcelona as well won't be the same. Before Messi, my team were good, but not as great as they were from 2008-2015. The 2 Trebles and Sextuple in 2009 was because of him, without him we might've not have won 2 Trebles and Sextuple.
@@jakedelhinski3849 even though I'm from Madird , I like Messi over Ronaldo . I always want real to win but imma fan of Messi's game. Ronaldo is a great scorer n I liked the Ronaldo in United rather than Madrid where he was just a scorer n nothing more ..
His recent World Cup win probably further proves this video’s point. Messi won the World Cup with a competent coach and young talent. Imagine if he had his Barca teammates in their prime?
@@foa0695 saying individual name doesn't prove anything. Brazil in 2006 was the best team talking about individually, but they didn't win. I'm saying that Argentina is better for many reasons, and yes, I could be wrong but this is my opinion. First of all, Spain didn't play with a 9 (cf) David villa wasnt a 9 he was a winger. Spain in the world cup did 4 goals!!!! Suffering in every match. They were also boring to watch, you may have some tiki taka Mandela effect but they weren't really good. Argentina in the 2022 changed a whole generation with a new generation. They won vs the actual Copa America champion (Brazil) the actual Europe champion (Italy) the second best team in the world cup (Croatia) and the champion of the world cup (France). And don't forget, Argentina has the best player ever in the history of football.
@@SoYouABitch Brazil 2002 was the better Brazil team. In 2006 Ronaldo was well past his best. Ronaldo was Brazil's star. They had a great team. Now if we compare the Spain team vs the Argentina team... Spain was Barcelona and real Madrid combined. They lacked many great forwards although David villa was really good.
Everytime when I watch your videos its like studying statistics in mathematics. Based on realistic and logic. You are really a researcher of football. I like it very much.
If Messi would have chosen Spain, there wouldn't be any doubts, that he is the best player ever... Because the only arguments Messi-haters have, is that he isn't as succesive with his national team as Ronaldo or Pele etc. But if he would have played for spain, he would have 2x, 3x better statistics than Ronaldo...
I couldn't agree more mate.the previous vid "ENDING A DEBATE" I'd to try many times to explain(with logic/statistics)for one blind PENALDO (CR7 fan) that no comparison between the two lol Messi belongs to another planet.
Michael Casimir Ya But 2014 final Messi could have scored and so could’ve Higuaín copa America 2015 Messi was the only one who scored his penalty and in 2016 Vidal missed his penalty too while yes Messi’s miss was bad it wasn’t too bad because it was still even
Another brilliant balanced well prepared vid. 👍I'll add this one to the previous "ENDING A DEBATE" in to it. Messi can't be compared to any simply THE BEST 👌
This is for you Zio Legend. I was wondering if you could do a vid about the REAL RONALDO (the Brazilian) as I believe he's the GREATEST STRIKER EVER graced the game & arguably the purest talent in terms of abilities football ever witnessed. I think the best #9 of all time deserves a thorough vid? 😊
@@juanmoreno267 I see your point bro. France ridiculously stole foreign players but in Leo's case he learned & played whole career in Spain so kinda more acceptable you know.
@@VideoAssistantRafi no like im talking about france getting players from former french colonies if spain would get their players from former spanish colonies spain would be op because they would have messi suarez aguero dybala di mario james cavani godin ederson allisson thiago silva etc etc i can list you a whole nother list of latin american players who are from countries that used to be part of the spanish empire
@@juanmoreno267 I see what you mean but that means there won't be Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay...ect that would be sad actually. But someone like Messi who two third of that Spain golden era squad were his teammates again that? Leo would have fitted in perfectly 👌
If Messi choosed Spain he wouldv been the most complete player in football history and the undisputed goat. But he choosed argentina, his REAL homeland and thats what a great person wouldv done.
Spot on my man its a FACT PS: ignore the "PENALDO" fan there. I mean by just replying "other way around " it tells you how much in denial Cristinao fans are & jealous of Leo as they have no other answer to justify.
Shaik Mohammad Zeeshan, If this was true then Messi would play aswell for Argentina as he does for Barcelona So u can get that dumb idea out of your head
@@justinoppermann3997 First of all, I meant with Xavi and Iniesta, Messi will surely win the world cup, secondly, you act as if messi is shit, he consistently is the top european scorer and assister
@@alialkhamiri6687 Messi is the main man in Barca. Xavi & Iniesta couldn't have achieved what they won at club level without Leo. they both admit it & both with the rest declared alongside Pep as Messi is the greatest of all time. & Leo deserves more. simple
Rasheed Al-Nimr Al-Adab Siz, why?? It’s unfair to put Messi in a national team comprised of Barcelona players If we put Ronaldo in a national team comprised of Real Madrid players then Ronaldo would score 200+ international goals
My man MX, Do more videos, you have potential! for example, in the end of the year make a video about Messi's goals in 2019 ;) or maybe something else you decide !
I really don't like this because Leo fans thought that everything in Barca is about Messi and forget Xavi's creativity and playmaking and Iniesta influences so Here in Spain is where we see clearly that Xavi's and Iniesta are actually the most important Players in Barca.
If Messi had played for Spain rather than Argentina, there is a chance he had received the same amount of trophies that they won without him. It all proves that Messi played in a team consisting of some of the best players in their most dominant period. Yet all these channels exist to promote him, like he is something special.
This would’ve been soo much fun. But Leo wanted to win with his country. And he’s finally done it! I’m sure he will enjoy this more than if he won everything many times with Spain.🙏🐐
We only count smart people like you & I my friend lol. I personally won't care if someone with no logic & football knowledge to even consider his/her opinion.
@@VideoAssistantRafi I truly agree.. Adding the Leo,Xavi,Iniesta chemistry to the already strong Spanish squad wouldn't have been able to be matched by other national teams
@@ProtikMitra7 Absolutely. the holy trinity (Messi, Xavi & Iniesta) I'd say you can add on top of Spain's achievement + WC 2014 & Euro 2016. (sorry PENALDO fans but no glory for your man) lol
(Fan bois of Messi & Ronaldo, kindly this read the comment section) I know Cristiano in particular is so glad Leo decided to choose Argentina over Spain.
He doesn't care neither does messi it's just u fan boys that talk about non existent things and " would've " shit the reality is messi is Argentine period
A Shakir yeah thats not the case, Leo would definitely have achieved success in the world cup n euros playing for spain thus winning every possible trophy for both club and country. Simply put there would be no argument, question or unticked box left for Leo, considering hes not slowing down statistically even at the age of 32 he would cement himself as the best player to ever grace the game.
Any way..Messi made a good choice to play for Argentina. I see it like this; it's not only winning trophies that counts but is winning them for YOUR COUNTRY,playing with your country shirt and honouring it is much more better than winning 10 WC's for a country were I wasn'born or have origins. He may have been greatly unlucky but after all he already paid his debt for his country. The important thing is that you are doing it for YOUR COUNTRY,YOUR PEOPLE,And most impontant for YOUR AND THEIR HAPPINESS.I think if he should have chosen Spain for that he would have HIGHLY regeated it,and later how would the Argentines feel to not have such a legend??. Its true,he would have 3 or 4 WCs along with the Euros,but is that what he really wants?? Win trophies for Spain and not for his Motherland?? better to make your country happy and proud even if you played 3 consecutive finals,cos I think nomatter all the criticism Argentines love his so much. He did really a lot. The important thing his making your country happy
2010 Spain squad + Messi would've been the strongest national team in the history. They would practically be Barcelona on national level and we all know how strong Barça was at that time.
Nice video, but i must say something. In this assumption I think we are overlooking a very important thing that is his loyality. His loyality made him who he is today, made him stay at barcelona, made him play for argentina and made him the best player in the world. If we exclude this factor from the start by betraying his country we could easily make the assumption that he might leave Barcelona as well and things would evolve different.
He'd have been more like PENLADO who keeps moving from richest club of each country he played into another with zero loyalty. As I pointed out previously. He left United when the club lost CL final 2009 (ironically to Messi ) lol. Left Real Madrid when he couldn't cope with La Liga & CL as Madrid always demand the BEST just like Barca. & now with Juve nice & easy. let's see where his next destination. PSG if he thinks can score goals. or USA/China with ZERO loyalty. unlike Leo from youth academy at la masia into his 16th season & counting. PURE LEGEND & role model to follow
no he doesnt and i can tell you for a fact because any person who loves their country, is patriotic, would never do something like this. If he wanted to win a WC for *himself* then he would have joined spain. But he wanted to win it for his *country* . Guess not everyone thinks as selfish as you.
If messi had chosen spain they would have still have said he was playing with the best players and also his Barca teammates...so basically we just have to hope that one day CR7 fans will see who's the best without us always trying to prove that messi is indeed the best
There is a videotape of from when Messi was very young and he moved to Barcelona for Football. He was really smitten by Barcelona... but when the interviewer asked him, he immediately retorts by saying that he wants to play only for Argentina. I think Messi was always sure of that and he wanted to win the world cup for Argentina.
Back in 2009 when and I was a kid and just started to watch football I thought .Messi was a Spanish player .Arsene wenger was english .Zlatan was italian
No coach. Now argentina has a coach and also a third world cup lol. Tbh Messi could have won 3 world cups with argentina if they had scaloni or other decent coach all the way in 2010 2014 and 2022.
I said what you were saying about 2018 before your video about it so it was great to see someone agree with me lol, also watching this after acuna is rly good now so it’s funny you rag in him (even though he definitely deserved it), also now argentina is a very good team in the midfield (especially considering Messi is more of a midfielder at this point especially for argentina) and not such a great team up front with only Martinez to finish in the attacking third besides Messi
I like to see a thorough vid about the real Ronaldo. As I personally regard him the GREATEST striker of all time & the most pure talent the game ever witnessed. If Zio Legend shares the same view then please do (video) about Ronaldo Luis Nazario. Thanks
2 years later.... For me he is the second best ever. He could be as good as messi without injuries. That could be a serious debate. R9 was a phenomenon but is forgotten
He would have won 2 world cups not 1 if he picked Spain over Argentina. But he was never going to pick anyone but Argentina. Even if Argentina never had called him up to the first team, he would have waited. Messi has been loyal to Argentina, Barcelona and his wife who he has known since childhood. He doesn't show off his money and goes all over the media and is the best player in football history
I'd even question if he'd have one even mate, think of it, if Messi would have won Euro 2008 with Spain so the Ballon D'or would to handed to him , Not to Cristinao
monjur 1395, u are so biased It’s an unfair comparison to put Messi in a national team comprised of only Barcelona players, If we put Ronaldo on a national team comprised only of Real Madrid players then Ronaldo would score 200+ international goals
For all of the people saying if he chose Spain he would be the greatest of all time...no Its not how many world cups you win...of he joined Spain..there is no doubt he would've won many world cups...but it wouldnt be exciting and as we know world cups doesn't mean that you are the best. If he won world cups in Spain people would've said that xavi , iniesta , busquets , pique , villa , Ramos , morata carried Messi...when Messi won the world cup in Argentina...we knew that Messi carried them to the world cup and he could've 2 world cups in Argentina...if it wasn't for higuain , the only mistakes that Argentina did at the 2014 world cup was not putting aguero instead of higuain.. I still can't imagine Messi not wearing a Argentina international jersey
When I Look at Gaurdiola , I'm like this Man is more than a Manager. People may hate him coz he continuously thrashed their teams but he's a Gem. He was the Reason we won WC of 2010 n Germany who won 2014. Both of these teams worked in the system he created n how they need to approach. As said by Lewandoski , we didn't win UCLs under Pep but He Provided us a great vision of the Game n that's the reason I like Pep. Now Talkin abt Money, in a team like City , gotta spent money coz of not so good academy but again how much did he spend n what's goin to be the profit ? Well. He spent 800M something while currently most players in the city team can be sold for 150M+ . That's the profit he lets u make . Liverpool spent 500M+ on transfers but they need to spend another 400M coz their players r gettin old while most of Liverpool's player except Djik,Mane n Allison's market value decreased after the loss against Atletico . They got fkin Lucky that it was Valverde's Barca n not so good Tottenham who also got lucky with the V.A.R. Gaurdiola's previous season could have been the greatest of all time if V.A.R hadn't fked him up . Funny how People call Messi not so good coz he's in the same team while the same people call Ferguson the Best for staying in a single team all his life . Double standards
Del Bosque isn’t as good as Pep and yes he benefited from a golden generation. But I wouldn’t say he’s overrated. He was already a world class manager before he coached Spain. People tend to forget he’s also a Champions League Winner.
Totally agree with yuh mate, not to mention even that "Euro 2016" PENALDO fans & the loser himself keep bragging about would have been stripped by Messi's Spain lol
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He would have been the undisputed greatest footballer ever if he chose Spain
only because of spain...
While winning with the best teammates all the time isn't guaranteed, Messi,for sure would have had more goals,more assists and at least 2 to 3 international trophies by now with Spain!!! Great video and pretty much on point!!!👍
He would have been the disloyal greatest footballer ever who knows
@@sagarmane8481 well no, I mean if he chose Spain he would've never played for Argentina.
@@sagarmane8481 Messi came to Spain when he was a child so it wouldn't matter
Then haters would go on and on about how Messi chose Spain over Argentina
True, this settles it.
Emil Tom Manuel haters always have something to say
Emil Tom Manuel maradona would’nt have like Messi for betraying argentina
Ultra wizboii nah Maradona already doesn't like Messi, wouldn't make a difference if Messi played for the Spanish team
Ronaldo at spain would do the same thing and be the undisputed vest though
If messi would have played for Spain, Spain would have been banned from fifa tournaments for being to OP lol..
hahaha
Hahaha
ogpunkbuster they would have gotten sued for running a monopoly
Basically PSG in ligue 1
They would have been nerfed on the 2014 patch
Next: what if valverde never managed barcelona?
Barca would have 3 trebles
Valverde was crucial at the time he was appointed due to lack of players. After that one season, he should've been sacked.
Win champion league
Lord valverde
Real madrid would have not won the champion league 3 timed in a row
They’d literally have played Barcelona’s full attack, full midfield and two defenders😂😂
yep.
Williams? - D.Villa - Messi
Iniesta - Busquets - Xavi
Alba - Ramos - Pique - Carvajal
Casillas / De Gea
HenSt1985 and at 2010 they would have Pedro.
@@caleblim6890 Although at that time Xabi Alonso played as a starter
@@HenSt-gz7qj Silva/Fabregas over Williams and at that time defo Cassilas
2008:
Silva - Torres - Messi
Iniesta - Senna - Xavi
Capdevila - Puyol - Marchena - Ramos
2010:
Villa - Messi - Pedro
Iniesta - Busquets - Xavi
Capdevila - Puyol - Pique - Ramos
2012/2014:
Iniesta - Messi - Silva
Alonso - Busquets - Xavi
Alba - Ramos - Pique - Arbeloa/Azpilicueta
2016 and onward: more and more likely to see Messi as the #10 in a 4-2-3-1
I went by player availability in the finals, btw. A fit David Villa would start over Silva both in 2008 and 2012.
And now Messi has achieved every thing with Argentina and he is a world champion ❤ Maradona is proud 😊
If Messi played for Spain they would have won all 3 world cups along with the euros
definitely not winning 2014 or 2018, would've still been clapped by holland/chile, if spain learned from their previous mistakes (which they never do because they're idiots) then maybe in 2018
but this all ignores that messi had his chance to prove he was the greatest in 2014 and failed, fraud
At least Messi made it to a World cup final and was the best player of the tournament, unlike an overrated goal poacher who relies on his teammates to win him international trophies!!! That's a real fraud!!!🤪
@@oscarroca4299
•james, muller, robben, hummels, navas, neuer, kroos were all factually better, it is a disgrace of you to try and say messi even had a campaign as remotely good as them
•messi was shit vs belgium/netherlands/germany and average vs swiss, ironically for you mascherano carried messi's WC hopes and was the main reason argentina went to the final
•ronaldo's contribution to the euros and nations league was x10 more important than messi's contribution to the 2014 world cup, ronaldo can score a hattrick against spain in the world cup while messi struggles to statpad vs iceland/nigeria
frauds really shouldn't ever be compared to ronaldo
@@WILL-vi5gb so contributing 6 out of the 8 goals and creating countless chances didn't warrant him winning the player of the tournament.
Ronaldo literally never even played that final dude. And Portugal made it through the next round because of the rules that allowed the 3rd team in the group to qualify (a back door)
@@kamogelomokgwe8543
and 5 of them were statpadded against bosnia, nigeria and iran, was poor throughout the KO stages, why is this not obvious?
rules aren't an excuse, messi won the WC best player for statpadding in a shit group and doing nothing in the KO = a better example of luck
The fact that he chose Argentina and won the world cup with them is even more special. Ronaldo faced lesser ranked teams in Europe on an average as compared to Messi in South America so we all can just imagine how many he would have scored if he chose Spain.
Stop comparing to Ronaldo, he wasn’t even mentioned and there isn’t even a debate, it’s annoying how people mention Ronaldo or Messi out of nowhere when the topic isn’t even near close also pepsi needed a sugar daddy FIFA to pay their bills for the World Cup trophy
@@mr.gameandwatchoilpanicove452 Haha.. cry more for your entire life just like your Penaldo will.. World Cup has determined the GOAT!!! Also, if you want to continue to argue.. Please give some evidence of how the World Cup was rigged according to you Penaldo fanboys? Please show some concrete vide evidence just like how Real Madrid's threepeat was a robbery. Also, if you don't have some evidence then stop crying. Haha..
Messi would have won every international trophy available if he played for Spain.
Not to mention he would've extended Spain's international dominance into 2018 World Cup as well.
I'm not sure about the 2018 World cup , however he'll fix some of their issues, especially when they kept passing the ball non-stop vs russia without end product, they had 1000 passes? XD
@@ZioLegend now that you mention it , I have my doubts too.
But I believe against Russia, the end product would be Leo for sure.
And his through balls can split the Russian defence.
@TheWeeaboo I couldn't agree more. spot on
some haters says messi is a b*tch , because he plays he whole life at barca , but if he leaves his country he is a traitor wow
@TheWeeaboo lmao single handedly? Fuck di maria aguero right? Do you even know what single handedly means? Check out spain vs portugal 3-3 thats single handedly
If Messi chose Spain, you would've made a video, "What if Messi chose Argentina?"
Obama Bin Laden Nah
Obama Bin Laden 😂😂😂
HE WOULD ONLY HAVE 6 BALLON’DORS!! OMGGBGUGISGSUSIGH
0 international trophies
@@TheNickKerr ...
There wouldn't be a GOAT Debate......
there would be a disloyalness debate
Ur right ! Ronaldo would still be the goat 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Angel wym try again 💀💀💀💀Ronaldo doesn’t have to play for a different country to win . Apparently for u idiots Messi would’ve done better at Spain😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂💀💀😂💀😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂💀😂😂💀💀💀💀😂😂4-0
@@asseater6828 when was the last time Ronaldo has been in a world cup final with Portugal ? Oh wait he hasn't!! 💀😂😂😂😂
Angel oh wait messi didn’t win it 💀💀💀.
Winning the Copa and World Cup with Argentina has given Messi demi god status.
I dont like to call people ignorants but Any one with human brain knows hes greatest whether he wins wc or not, winning cup is team game, a single player no matter how freaking good he is wont win cup, team wins cup.
Apparently all that counts to people these days is who won the most trophies and has the most goals 💔
Plus messi has best player trophy in two international tournaments
low IQ fan
@Shh Shh
you can't even spell 'surprised' and you have the audacity to try and call me low IQ?
True but if he took the reigns as the leader of Argentina by giving the orders Im pretty sure Agentina can win other than messi they have divala
If football was like tennis Messi would've won 100 Grand Slams
Idiots don't seem to understand that football is a teamsport
Messi is like Federer; Naturally graceful and brilliant.
Ronaldo is like Nadal; Less talented than Fed but much more hardworking.
So ho do you think will have more GS by the end of their career? I'm pretty sure if you are a sane person you won't bet against Rafa, right?
That's how ignorant your first statement is.
@@khalidbinwalid4252 hello !! I am a Messi fan but winning 5 BDOr 5 golden boots 4 UEFA best player can't be achieved just by hard work..u need to be seriously good. He is equally as talented as Messi.
Pawan Pillai exactly so the best player should be the player with both the best individual talent and the best ability to integrate with the team
true.
England 2002 was a joke, expected them to win the WC but.....
Yeah thats why Individual awards dont make up a full story and his video about how Messi is the best ever is based on that so yeah
Messi playing for Spain with legends like Xavi, Iniesta, Casillas, Raul, Ramos, Villa, Puyol, Pique, Torres, Fabregas is like an alien team. They definitely would've won World Cup 2010, 2014 and 2018 with Uefa Euro 2008, 2012 and 2016.
Yup, cus just like FCB, he NEEDS Legends to carry him to glory HAHAH. How many goals does messi have in world cup knock out stages again vs Higuain? I'll wait (;
@@ricardosuarez6024 lmao I have never seen Ronaldo carry Portugal to the finals but I do have seen messi carry his team to the finals.I'm not taking about scoring goals he is a playmaker and was given the best player award in 2014
@@ricardosuarez6024 ok..
@@utkarshsingh8710 that Award was stolen and you know it HAHA. Stolen from James Rodriguez who gave Colombia an Incredible Run, and after James you had 11 better players on the German Team. Keep being delusional and believing he was actually the best player at the tournament. You delusional fan boy. FIFA makes a lot of money out of stupit people like you 🤣🤣🤣
They already won 2010 WC, and 2008 & 2010 Euros without him tho
And 2018 WC? Absolutely not even close. In fact they're not winning anything else with him, you cant tell me they're gonna change from stage groups to WC winners in 2014 just for a man.
Never happened, Messi never did it.
Even without Spain MESSI GOAT
Flurest CR7 is
He has better skills and can play in different teams and still be good unlike Messi who can only play good with Barca
@@ehanbhairakdar1330 lol
@@ehanbhairakdar1330 "DIFfErenT sKIlLS" you're a dumbass
@@ehanbhairakdar1330 has he been good. Dya remember Quaziregella or whatever he outscored penaldo 😂
If he'd chosen Spain...well, there would be no discussion to be had about his G.O.A.T status anymore. Great job, bro!
Someone In The Dark, u do realize that if Messi played for Spain, he would be playing with the exact same Barcelona players
If we got a national team comprised mostly of Real Madrid players and Ronaldo played for them then Ronaldo would be undisputed goat
@@agnikaineverdies7646 haha😂
@@agnikaineverdies7646 yeah but Ronaldo couldn't play for Spain while messi could as his ancestors are Spanish while ronaldos are serbian/gypsy
@@zeqirzeqiri1216 his ancestors were italian not Spanish
But then Messi doesn't want Spain. He wanted to play for his nation Argentina more than anything.
(I'm only saying it as fact, nothing against the video)
His parent who reject for messi to play on spain,if im not mistaken poor choise for me
It was never a matter of choosing for him. He wanted to play for Argentina or nothing, end of the story.
In an alternative world, Messi playing for Spain would've become the Undisputed GOAT 🐐 with 2 world cup titles and 2 Euros..
@@kennymichaelalanya7134 Messi said that if he didn't play for Argentina he wouldn't have played for any other team so that wouldn't have happened either if they wanted it, Messi is Argentine not Spanish end of story.
@@DrWalletGone Messi refused to play for Spain, not his father 😂
Argentina, Spain and Mexico are my favourite nations for Football
Would been very good decision from Messi to take Spain
Actually it'd have been a very good decision is Higuain would haven taken France instead of Argentina so Messi would've won a WC & couple Copa Americas at least
Mine is France, England and Belgium
@@ohiamswd ikr higuain fucked uo Argentina so many times it unbelievable
Argentina could've won in 2014 though also and messi couldve had a world cup with argentina
I would have preferred if Messi had chosen Mexico. We would have won everything and he would undoubtedly be dubbed the GOAT even by Penaldo's most cocksucking fanboys!
He would have more goals compare to ronaldo in international level
@Rehaan Aamir ronaldo needs space and relies on counterattacks to score goals. I don't think he would've done much in Spain
@@Hobie02425 not necessarily spain.but if ronaldo was in some teams that could win the wc.he wouldve done it already.and argentina is not a bad team,its only the recent team
if ronaldo was in brazil he wouldve 10 times more that of messi.messis 50% int. goals are from friendlies.how can you say that😂
@@bruv4934 if messi in brazil neymar messi coutinho firmino togeather😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂now speak
@@fredericsoupa7884 Ronaldo's style would do just fine for Spain
This channel is a treasure.everytime he upload's it's a classic jewel.
Messi did not reach the final WITH Argentina in 2014 he carried them to the final
Then Higuain opened his magic
Carried them? Lmfao vs who? Iran bosnia and the might Nigeria? HAHAH, where tf was he vs Belgium, Netherlands and Germany.
You're gonna act like u didnt see messi 2 clear chances vs Germany either? You're a delusional Messhit fan clearly upset for Messis failure to show up when he is needed the most
@Arithmetic go cry about MesShit having 0 world cups and blaming Higuain HAHAHAHAH 😂😂😂😂😂
Ricardo Suarez Belgium he created the goal, Netherlands he played well overall. Germany his injury was getting worse and he created a couple chances, next...
TTCompanion 17 nope, he’s deldued
1) Would've won all the WC's n Euro's from 2010 till 2020! Let's add UEFA Nations League too!
2) Would've ended the 🐐 debate forever!
I agree & I'd add from 2008 Euro mate (Spain already were a winning side) Leo already 21 by that time & already 3 years playing international matches.
@@ohiamswd True!
Nations league is a friendly competition
Lol how delusional are u 2014 Spain was trash bo team was besting Germany idk about the rest
Shakuri In 2014 Spain brought players in that didn’t fit their style (Diego Costa, Santi Cazorla)
"Messi never had the courage to leave Barcelona"
"Messi turned his back on Argentina and sold himself to Spain for easy glory"
Even if Messi had 20 ballon d'ors and 5 World Cups, haters would find other stupid argument to diminish him. That's how it is, unfortunately.
I know, haters don't even know how to debate anyways without making themselves look stupid. Especially Madridista's would be the first ones to say something like that to diminish Messi.
@@jakedelhinski3849 dont talk shit man, the madridistas who hate on messi are mostly little kids. iam a madridista and i got deep respect for messi and love to watch him. he is pain in the ass for us since he started to play in the 1st team of barca, but that doesnt make me hate him. the day he ends his career i will have one eye crying and one eye laughing. crying because as a lover of the beautiful game, i will miss this wonderful, genius player, the laughing eye, because he wont score any more goals to my team. football will not be the same.
and @dregongora haters gonna hate, you are right. but this happens to all players
@@ManuSlzno Sorry I wasn't indicating all Madridistas, what I mean't by Madridistas I mean't most of them, not all of them and good to see you are not one of them to defame and disrespect Messi.
@@ManuSlzno And you are right football will never ever without a genius player like Lionel Messi. Messi makes football beautiful, even if he leaves I'm still Barcelona fan since 1999 to the day of my death, but I know that without him not just football wouldn't be the same anymore, but also my team Barcelona as well won't be the same. Before Messi, my team were good, but not as great as they were from 2008-2015. The 2 Trebles and Sextuple in 2009 was because of him, without him we might've not have won 2 Trebles and Sextuple.
@@jakedelhinski3849 even though I'm from Madird , I like Messi over Ronaldo . I always want real to win but imma fan of Messi's game. Ronaldo is a great scorer n I liked the Ronaldo in United rather than Madrid where he was just a scorer n nothing more ..
His recent World Cup win probably further proves this video’s point. Messi won the World Cup with a competent coach and young talent. Imagine if he had his Barca teammates in their prime?
Spain 2010 aint better than this Argentina
@@SoYouABitch what? you are joking!
Puyol Ramos Iniesta Xavi Villa Torres Xabi Alonso Alba Pique Casillas Busquets Fabregas Silva
@@foa0695 saying individual name doesn't prove anything. Brazil in 2006 was the best team talking about individually, but they didn't win. I'm saying that Argentina is better for many reasons, and yes, I could be wrong but this is my opinion. First of all, Spain didn't play with a 9 (cf) David villa wasnt a 9 he was a winger.
Spain in the world cup did 4 goals!!!! Suffering in every match. They were also boring to watch, you may have some tiki taka Mandela effect but they weren't really good.
Argentina in the 2022 changed a whole generation with a new generation. They won vs the actual Copa America champion (Brazil) the actual Europe champion (Italy) the second best team in the world cup (Croatia) and the champion of the world cup (France). And don't forget, Argentina has the best player ever in the history of football.
@@critiqueeverything3297 Brazil 2002 Argentina 2022 Germany 2014 and France 2018 are better imo
@@SoYouABitch Brazil 2002 was the better Brazil team. In 2006 Ronaldo was well past his best. Ronaldo was Brazil's star. They had a great team.
Now if we compare the Spain team vs the Argentina team... Spain was Barcelona and real Madrid combined. They lacked many great forwards although David villa was really good.
Everytime when I watch your videos its like studying statistics in mathematics. Based on realistic and logic.
You are really a researcher of football.
I like it very much.
If Messi would have chosen Spain,
there wouldn't be any doubts, that he is the best player ever...
Because the only arguments Messi-haters have, is that he isn't as succesive with his national team as Ronaldo or Pele etc.
But if he would have played for spain, he would have 2x, 3x better statistics than Ronaldo...
I couldn't agree more mate.the previous vid "ENDING A DEBATE" I'd to try many times to explain(with logic/statistics)for one blind PENALDO (CR7 fan) that no comparison between the two lol Messi belongs to another planet.
messi fans relying on ifs to debate whose better in 2019, sad decline
WILL no, even with Argentina, he STILL is better
WILL This season Messi played better than Ronaldo
Michael Casimir Ya But 2014 final Messi could have scored and so could’ve Higuaín copa America 2015 Messi was the only one who scored his penalty and in 2016 Vidal missed his penalty too while yes Messi’s miss was bad it wasn’t too bad because it was still even
He could’ve been able to save Spain from their miserable WC run in 2014. Hell, Spain could’ve probably won it again in 2014.
In a few words Guardiola was the real winner of the 2010 fifa WC
Respect for guardiola
He is a manager who nourish barcelona and spain..
Hahahahadahadada
2014 WC too
Agree n even in the WC of 2014 , J Used Gaurdiola's game plan.
Fav Cruyff!
Another brilliant balanced well prepared vid. 👍I'll add this one to the previous "ENDING A DEBATE" in to it. Messi can't be compared to any simply THE BEST 👌
This is for you Zio Legend. I was wondering if you could do a vid about the REAL RONALDO (the Brazilian) as I believe he's the GREATEST STRIKER EVER graced the game & arguably the purest talent in terms of abilities football ever witnessed. I think the best #9 of all time deserves a thorough vid? 😊
This makes me so sad bro, Messi could have been officially the Goat. Hands down, only if he played for Spain 😭.
For me he's the goat. I think if have played for Spain would have been unfair to football. He'd have won 3-4 international trophies. Easy
@@VideoAssistantRafi you know what wouldt truly be unfair if spain did the same thing france does
@@juanmoreno267 I see your point bro. France ridiculously stole foreign players but in Leo's case he learned & played whole career in Spain so kinda more acceptable you know.
@@VideoAssistantRafi no like im talking about france getting players from former french colonies if spain would get their players from former spanish colonies spain would be op because they would have messi suarez aguero dybala di mario james cavani godin ederson allisson thiago silva etc etc i can list you a whole nother list of latin american players who are from countries that used to be part of the spanish empire
@@juanmoreno267 I see what you mean but that means there won't be Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay...ect that would be sad actually. But someone like Messi who two third of that Spain golden era squad were his teammates again that? Leo would have fitted in perfectly 👌
He about to win it with Argentina
This aged well
@@arhum3064 it was aging well until Mbappe tried to ruin it but still failed
@@namedclaiming821 its wasn't just mbappe it was Gonzalo Montiel handball and lack of energy in final minutes
@@namedclaiming821 they still one W
@@commando1092 at least he redeems him self at the end
If Messi choosed Spain he wouldv been the most complete player in football history and the undisputed goat. But he choosed argentina, his REAL homeland and thats what a great person wouldv done.
He was offered the chance to play for Spain but he refused saying he always wanted to play for Argentina
Ronaldo relies on teammates whereas teammates rely on Messi
other way around
Spot on my man its a FACT
PS: ignore the "PENALDO" fan there. I mean by just replying "other way around
" it tells you how much in denial Cristinao fans are & jealous of Leo as they have no other answer to justify.
@@ohiamswd what happened to pessi in copa 2019 why couldn't he do all alone. Piss off
Shaik Mohammad Zeeshan, If this was true then Messi would play aswell for Argentina as he does for Barcelona
So u can get that dumb idea out of your head
@@WILL-vi5gb blinded fool
Messi was amazing with Xavi and Iniesta, If messi played for spain, then he defo would have won the world cup
Yeah.
They did without him.
Messi needs Xavi and Iniesta to win big trophies like UCL.
They dont need Messi
@@justinoppermann3997 First of all, I meant with Xavi and Iniesta, Messi will surely win the world cup, secondly, you act as if messi is shit, he consistently is the top european scorer and assister
@@alialkhamiri6687 Messi is the main man in Barca. Xavi & Iniesta couldn't have achieved what they won at club level without Leo. they both admit it & both with the rest declared alongside Pep as Messi is the greatest of all time. & Leo deserves more. simple
@@justinoppermann3997 well how is it going with juventus ronaldo relied on ramos for 2 of his champions leagues trophies
@@juanmoreno267
Ramos won the 2 UCLs were CR7 scored 33 goals?
Ok.
little did they know, messi wins the copa america and world cup
Perhaps the GOAT debate would have been over a long time ago, although he came so close with Argentina in 2014.
Rasheed Al-Nimr Al-Adab Siz, why??
It’s unfair to put Messi in a national team comprised of Barcelona players
If we put Ronaldo in a national team comprised of Real Madrid players then Ronaldo would score 200+ international goals
@@agnikaineverdies7646 Nope, Ronaldo is not as good as Messi, no one has been and no one is.
Best football channel on TH-cam. Insane work! ❤️
Thanks alot Maguire !
@@ZioLegend No prob. Keep it up 😎
He almost won the 2014 World Cup all by himself so I mean with Spain....
Yeah I think you get it...
Not all by Himself, you don't win a WC by yourself, but ofc he was mvp in 2014.
Spain lost in group stages in 2014, and probably would still have.
He never needed Spain….
World Cup and Copa America in the bag
Great video zio love the consistency with the uploads!
My man MX, Do more videos, you have potential!
for example, in the end of the year make a video about Messi's goals in 2019 ;) or maybe something else you decide !
Damn you make really gud video
Thanks Graffica :D
I really don't like this because Leo fans thought that everything in Barca is about Messi and forget Xavi's creativity and playmaking and Iniesta influences so Here in Spain is where we see clearly that Xavi's and Iniesta are actually the most important Players in Barca.
I swear I'm gonna go back in time and make Messi choose Spain
no need now
this channel needs more attention honestly you seem to put a lot of work into your videos dude i hope it pays off 🤝
This channel is severely underrated it hurts my heart
I watched today,realised messi would hav e double digit ballond'or for lol😂
Exelent video way more different from the rest. 🕵👍🏅⚽
You are a true zio LEGEND after this vid I subscribed straight away wow you are truly amazing
Great video as always
If Messi had played for Spain rather than Argentina, there is a chance he had received the same amount of trophies that they won without him. It all proves that Messi played in a team consisting of some of the best players in their most dominant period. Yet all these channels exist to promote him, like he is something special.
This would’ve been soo much fun. But Leo wanted to win with his country. And he’s finally done it! I’m sure he will enjoy this more than if he won everything many times with Spain.🙏🐐
And he’s done it again haha
Like ur channel i like it so much.i think this is the real football analysis ive ever lostened to.
If I was him I would choose Spain over argentina
Imagine how akward would be Messi and Ramos on the same balneary
Well, they play in psg both now HAHA
@@shiba2561 lmaoo fr
People would have still downplayed his influence the same way they down play his influence in Barcelona. "hE DepEnDs On InIeStA and XavI"
We only count smart people like you & I my friend lol. I personally won't care if someone with no logic & football knowledge to even consider his/her opinion.
Xavi and Iniesta did win all of those tournaments without Messi tho :P
@@ProtikMitra7 we're saying they (Xavi & Iniesta) would have achieved more with Messi added to the national team.
@@VideoAssistantRafi I truly agree.. Adding the Leo,Xavi,Iniesta chemistry to the already strong Spanish squad wouldn't have been able to be matched by other national teams
@@ProtikMitra7 Absolutely. the holy trinity (Messi, Xavi & Iniesta) I'd say you can add on top of Spain's achievement + WC 2014 & Euro 2016. (sorry PENALDO fans but no glory for your man) lol
And now he has achieved everything with Argentina
GOAT
(Fan bois of Messi & Ronaldo, kindly this read the comment section)
I know Cristiano in particular is so glad Leo decided to choose Argentina over Spain.
Knowledge is Power 《Ignorance is Bliss》 for ur name being knowledge is power ur pretty fucken stupid
I am a Troll It's a joke, calm down
He doesn't care neither does messi it's just u fan boys that talk about non existent things and " would've " shit the reality is messi is Argentine period
HELLO THERE yeah check the teams hes scored against before writing your comment, btw did you even watch the video?
A Shakir yeah thats not the case, Leo would definitely have achieved success in the world cup n euros playing for spain thus winning every possible trophy for both club and country. Simply put there would be no argument, question or unticked box left for Leo, considering hes not slowing down statistically even at the age of 32 he would cement himself as the best player to ever grace the game.
2 WC and 2 or 3 Euros for sure
Any way..Messi made a good choice to play for Argentina. I see it like this; it's not only winning trophies that counts but is winning them for YOUR COUNTRY,playing with your country shirt and honouring it is much more better than winning 10 WC's for a country were I wasn'born or have origins. He may have been greatly unlucky but after all he already paid his debt for his country. The important thing is that you are doing it for YOUR COUNTRY,YOUR PEOPLE,And most impontant for YOUR AND THEIR HAPPINESS.I think if he should have chosen Spain for that he would have HIGHLY regeated it,and later how would the Argentines feel to not have such a legend??. Its true,he would have 3 or 4 WCs along with the Euros,but is that what he really wants?? Win trophies for Spain and not for his Motherland?? better to make your country happy and proud even if you played 3 consecutive finals,cos I think nomatter all the criticism Argentines love his so much. He did really a lot. The important thing his making your country happy
Completely agreed
This guy's analysis is really good...
He is a man with analysis dexterity.
I love your analysis ,u are so right
I was already a fan of the channel but that Jojo Reference just sold me even more
ah, a fellow joestar!
For me the 5 goats are R9 , Ronaldinho, Messi, Zidane, maradona any one of these as your goat, im happy
R9 Messi Maradona Cristiano Iniesta
2010 Spain squad + Messi would've been the strongest national team in the history. They would practically be Barcelona on national level and we all know how strong Barça was at that time.
Nice video, but i must say something. In this assumption I think we are overlooking a very important thing that is his loyality. His loyality made him who he is today, made him stay at barcelona, made him play for argentina and made him the best player in the world. If we exclude this factor from the start by betraying his country we could easily make the assumption that he might leave Barcelona as well and things would evolve different.
He'd have been more like PENLADO who keeps moving from richest club of each country he played into another with zero loyalty. As I pointed out previously. He left United when the club lost CL final 2009 (ironically to Messi ) lol.
Left Real Madrid when he couldn't cope with La Liga & CL as Madrid always demand the BEST just like Barca.
& now with Juve nice & easy. let's see where his next destination. PSG if he thinks can score goals. or USA/China with ZERO loyalty. unlike Leo from youth academy at la masia into his 16th season & counting. PURE LEGEND & role model to follow
If I ever meet the genie, this'll be my third wish.
Only If messi played for spain, I still think of this sometimes and that makes me sad, maybe messi thinks about it aswell..
no he doesnt and i can tell you for a fact because any person who loves their country, is patriotic, would never do something like this. If he wanted to win a WC for *himself* then he would have joined spain. But he wanted to win it for his *country* . Guess not everyone thinks as selfish as you.
Exelent your commentary, I wish you a good success in everythings
Underrated channel
If messi had chosen spain they would have still have said he was playing with the best players and also his Barca teammates...so basically we just have to hope that one day CR7 fans will see who's the best without us always trying to prove that messi is indeed the best
*Then Ramos and Messi would have been teammates....*
@@aritradey6274 wow thanks for replying after 2 years! I remembered about this comment 😁
There is a videotape of from when Messi was very young and he moved to Barcelona for Football. He was really smitten by Barcelona... but when the interviewer asked him, he immediately retorts by saying that he wants to play only for Argentina. I think Messi was always sure of that and he wanted to win the world cup for Argentina.
The Indiana Jones reference is AWESOME.. and Appropriate since Messi Is the Holy Grail of Football..
Back in 2009 when and I was a kid and just started to watch football I thought
.Messi was a Spanish player
.Arsene wenger was english
.Zlatan was italian
Messi is a Spanish (speaking) player, so technically you're not wrong jaja
@@Alex19781986 Arsene is English speaking manager.
Zlatan is an italian speaking player.
In Argentina Messi had Aguero, Di Maria, Dibala, Higuaine and Mascherano. Those are some top tier players and he still did fukall...
9 Coaches/12 years. Sadly this is not fifa ultimate team.
No coach. Now argentina has a coach and also a third world cup lol.
Tbh Messi could have won 3 world cups with argentina if they had scaloni or other decent coach all the way in 2010 2014 and 2022.
If Messi played for Spain then there would be no competition. That would have been a total domination.
I said what you were saying about 2018 before your video about it so it was great to see someone agree with me lol, also watching this after acuna is rly good now so it’s funny you rag in him (even though he definitely deserved it), also now argentina is a very good team in the midfield (especially considering Messi is more of a midfielder at this point especially for argentina) and not such a great team up front with only Martinez to finish in the attacking third besides Messi
I like to see a thorough vid about the real Ronaldo. As I personally regard him the GREATEST striker of all time & the most pure talent the game ever witnessed. If Zio Legend shares the same view then please do (video) about Ronaldo Luis Nazario. Thanks
2 years later....
For me he is the second best ever. He could be as good as messi without injuries. That could be a serious debate. R9 was a phenomenon but is forgotten
It makes me mad he hasnt won a wc, he really does deserve won but even without it everyone should see that he is
at last he won , bro
He would have won 2 world cups not 1 if he picked Spain over Argentina. But he was never going to pick anyone but Argentina. Even if Argentina never had called him up to the first team, he would have waited. Messi has been loyal to Argentina, Barcelona and his wife who he has known since childhood. He doesn't show off his money and goes all over the media and is the best player in football history
You are the best football analyser
He would have won a World Cup and the European Cup with Spain and he would have won the Ballon do’r every year.
Once if he had chosen to play for Spain. The Football team Spain would've been the god of Football ended Brazil
Messi with spain and ronaldo with brazil wouldve been the fight of the century...god (Messi) vs his best creation (Ronaldo)
Why would CR7 play for Brazil ?
Ronaldo fanboys and their dreams 😅
"best creation" lmao, they way you guys hype up Ronaldo is ridiculous. He ain't that good bro.
@@sirswearsalot1813 exactly
Nicely done sir
If messi played for spain, CR7 would not have won more than 2 Ballon D'Or. no disrespect
I'd even question if he'd have one even mate, think of it, if Messi would have won Euro 2008 with Spain so the Ballon D'or would to handed to him , Not to Cristinao
@@ohiamswd
Maybe spain would have chocked
monjur 1395, u are so biased
It’s an unfair comparison to put Messi in a national team comprised of only Barcelona players,
If we put Ronaldo on a national team comprised only of Real Madrid players then Ronaldo would score 200+ international goals
Icardi would actually play for Argentina 😂
For all of the people saying if he chose Spain he would be the greatest of all time...no
Its not how many world cups you win...of he joined Spain..there is no doubt he would've won many world cups...but it wouldnt be exciting and as we know world cups doesn't mean that you are the best.
If he won world cups in Spain people would've said that xavi , iniesta , busquets , pique , villa , Ramos , morata carried Messi...when Messi won the world cup in Argentina...we knew that Messi carried them to the world cup and he could've 2 world cups in Argentina...if it wasn't for higuain , the only mistakes that Argentina did at the 2014 world cup was not putting aguero instead of higuain..
I still can't imagine Messi not wearing a Argentina international jersey
When I Look at Gaurdiola , I'm like this Man is more than a Manager. People may hate him coz he continuously thrashed their teams but he's a Gem. He was the Reason we won WC of 2010 n Germany who won 2014. Both of these teams worked in the system he created n how they need to approach. As said by Lewandoski , we didn't win UCLs under Pep but He Provided us a great vision of the Game n that's the reason I like Pep. Now Talkin abt Money, in a team like City , gotta spent money coz of not so good academy but again how much did he spend n what's goin to be the profit ? Well. He spent 800M something while currently most players in the city team can be sold for 150M+ . That's the profit he lets u make . Liverpool spent 500M+ on transfers but they need to spend another 400M coz their players r gettin old while most of Liverpool's player except Djik,Mane n Allison's market value decreased after the loss against Atletico . They got fkin Lucky that it was Valverde's Barca n not so good Tottenham who also got lucky with the V.A.R. Gaurdiola's previous season could have been the greatest of all time if V.A.R hadn't fked him up . Funny how People call Messi not so good coz he's in the same team while the same people call Ferguson the Best for staying in a single team all his life . Double standards
He's also of Spanish ancestry
Well he kinda basically did play with Spain on Barca xavi and insieta best cms on the Spain team David villa , puyol pique lol
Del Bosque isn’t as good as Pep and yes he benefited from a golden generation. But I wouldn’t say he’s overrated. He was already a world class manager before he coached Spain. People tend to forget he’s also a Champions League Winner.
If Messi chooses Spain, the whole Messi vs Ronaldo debate would of looked like the LeBron vs Carmelo Anthony debate
1:19 is that a jojo reference?!
My eyes don't tend to lie
He would’ve been good for Italy as well
Italy from 2010 to current times has been shite except in this recent euro
If Messi chose Spain over Argentina then Spain would have won 3Euros and 3Worldcup and till now Ronaldo didn't win any Ballon d'or.
Totally agree with yuh mate, not to mention even that "Euro 2016" PENALDO fans & the loser himself keep bragging about would have been stripped by Messi's Spain lol
The squad would basically be Real Madrid and Barcelona players + Messi.
He can achieve international trophies if the defence and midfield is strong
Imagine Ronaldo playing for Germany hahaha...
he won't get a chance to touch the ball 😂😂
@@eggsandballssir ? your comment is shit
@@eggsandballssir Didn't he have great chemistry with Ozil and Kroos?