COLD STEEL SR1 TANTO vs. SR1 LITE TANTO - KNIVES DESTRUCTION COMPARISON TEST - UNTIL THEY BRAKE
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STEEL: 8Cr14MoV - SR1 LITE
STEEL: CPM S35VN - SR1
EXTREME TESTING COLD STEEL SR1 TANTO POINT
and COLD STEEL SR1 LITEb TANTO
POCKET KNIFE - KNIFE TEST - FIRST IMPRESSION
BRICK TEST, TIP TEST, TORTURE TEST, CAR STABBING
KNFE REVIEW - FIRST LOOK - DESTROYING - UNBOXING
- DEATHBOXING - BREAKING POINT - KNIFE REVIEW
TORTURE TIP TEST
@ufprogear @Clawgearcom @csknives
a cinder block or anything metal shouldnt really be used to test ur fucking folding pocket knife, no matter the steel, basic or super. the things u should test are cutting ability, edge retention, ease of sharpening, folding action open and close, lock strength, ergos, over design. this is dumb af.
this is not "testing" in any sense of how someone actually uses their carry knife. i sincerely hope u spent good money on each of those, i hope u paid double actually
i paid a lot more, i orderd knives for a total of 4000 Euro till now!! Why? BECAUSE I CAN!!
These test aren't dumb.
We get to see which brands and models are overrated and overpriced "mall ninja" gear like Tops and ESEE.
@@TheScotchaholic 1oo % true!!!
@@TheScotchaholic buy proper tools for smashing concrete and car hoods, and u wouldnt have to worry about ur knife. this shit is retarded
JoeX: Knife breaks at 1000 strikes to a rock.
Me: for my next hiking with the family, 999 is the limit
thanks god i have no family!
SR1 lite is amazing!!! Thanks for your time showing us these videos!!🤘🏻🤘🏻
you are welcome!
Joe X the true test of destruction on knives
thanks!
No words to describe this man, superlatives fail.Wonderfullestttt!
thanks a lot!
Hi Joe...love this video comparison between CS SR1 Lite & SR1. I was lucky to make the right choice by buying a CS SR1 Lite which is much cheaper than the more expensive CS SR1... really worth it after watching your comparison video ... you are the best Joe !!! 👍👍👍
thanks a lot, i tried to destroy the SR1 LITE Spear Point yesterday, it survived, will be an epic one!!!
@Just JohnnyOwhhh...so sad . which one bro...SR1 or SR1 Lite?
@Just Johnny My goshh..I didn't think it could be damaged like that... most likely in many knife making you get a knife blade that is not well heat treated... maybe.
I am so glad I got the lite. I really don't care if I have to sharpen a hard use knife more often (it is easy anyways) but I care very much about the maximum strenght of a blade. This knife is a pry bar by design so the lite is the better, logical choice.
i agree!
One test is nothing. I’m a heat treater. Knives are individuals. Try testing 200 and you’ll likely see a reverse decision. One test. Smh You think they crash ONE Mercedes and the DOT accepts their findings. People know nothing about destructive testing. Who cuts rocks, true testing is snapping the action open a MILLION times, cutting paper and nylon fabric with RECORDED cuts equal pressure and why am I wasting my time here
@@tonybranton i don't know, you were writing soo much!!
so i need to test 200 then!!
@@tonybranton
Easy:
Based on the metallurgical composition of both steels, and the proper heat treatment for their respective edge retention capacities, 8cr13mov IS the tougher steel, yet lacks the edge retention of S35VN.
The only way to make S35VN tougher is to greatly reduce the edge retention with a lower HRC via heat treatment, which makes it ridiculous paying more for better steel to have it's edge retention capabilities reduced for toughness in a "premium" version.
Both knives performed outstanding 👏
yes impressive maximus!
Joe the man beast destroyer not one but two knifes hit the heavens , is there nothing this man can't break or snap , hail Joe hail Joe hail Joe, I have the lite version for every day use I love it . Keep them coming Joe.
thanks margaret!
Cant break a 4max scout!
@@bushido7956he did lol
12:27-на скорости 0,25 ,когда 60 кадров/с скорость установлена,есть 2 кадра, где центральная гайка отлетает, гайка именно целая, выглядит как цилиндр с головкой.Я делаю вывод ,что она,скорее всего раскрутилась.Для 100%вывода надо гайку найти и ответную часть тоже, проверить как выглядят на них резьбы.
wow this is a great knife - i could never do anything close to what you done - this certainly passes my expectations - thanks
you are welcome!
The SR1 has now turned into the Tuff Lite with a longer handle.
I would also pick the SR1 Lite. The price is a huge difference. And the edge doesn't chip out as easy.
Edge retention is not an issue. A few passes along a ceramic rod or sandpaper, stone / whatever/ anything / jeans with stropping compound and you're good to go.
I am a bit amazed by the 1 hit breaks on the brick with the Junglas and the BK9. Those are tough blades, they held up fine when chopping the car. Maybe the brick is a just too much for them. Many of these Becker's and Junglas' have done lots of chopping of thick branches without issues. Batoning also. Guess the stone is too much for these blades.
The American Tanto tip is still s h i t for stabbing purpose. The BK9 and Junglas were better at that for sure.
The American Tanto point is strong. But so is a cold chisel. Or a pointed chisel.
The Tri-Ad Lock is excellent. Very good quality.
Maybe tape a piece of cardboard on the glove/hand. Protects the hand and saves you from buying too many gloves.
yes, i need more new gloves, thats a fact! cheers my friend!!
@@joex
Or ones that offer better hand protection.
They do exist.
Then again, you do like the blood spraying around a bit I think.
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@@Ve-suviusthe tanto point penetrates extremely well for me just put more strength into it you got this !
@@TheRealB1gA
Good that it works for you.
I avoid it 😉.
@@TheRealB1gA
I did a lot of tests myself. But the squarish Tanto tip has definitely the drag compared to knife tips that have a smooth transition/line.
Mind you, for example the Courage 320 and 311 of Steel Will knives have such a narrow tanto tip that these will be effective at penetration...
From Murray Carter's book '101 Knife Designs'.
Those Ridiculous Tanto Points
I know this is going to step on a lot of people’s toes, but it needs to
be said: tanto points are useless. Hear me out − I know you will
agree with me once you read my explanation. And please remember,
my goal here is to educate on practical knife design, and not to
disrespect the makers of exotic blades.
Despite what you have been told, tanto points do not make a point
any stronger for piercing. Any strength that is in the point comes
from the thickness of the metal right behind the tip of the blade, and
is not dependent on the blade profile. What you have not been told by
the tanto point salesman though, is that the very same tanto point
will impede good piercing because of the extra drag produced by the
protrusion of the square point.
Furthermore, we have established that the function of utility knives
with blades less than four inches is slicing, with some superficial
piercing required from time to time. As slicing knives, short blades
are mostly limited by their blade length. A tanto point blade further
limits the slicing ability by dividing a short blade into two smaller
blades, divided by an angle. You have just cut the slicing power of a
small knife in two! What’s more, because the second angled tanto
edge sticks out from the blade profile, in use it is the first part to go
dull. (Go ahead, check your tanto knives that have seen a few hours
of use. You will see a shiny spot right on that corner when held edge
up in a good source of light!) So now, when you try to make a slicing
cut, you are leading the cut with a dull edge.
Now this third point is painfully obvious to any tanto blade owner
Now this third point is painfully obvious to any tanto blade owner
who ever tried to sharpen his knife; tanto blades are difficult to
sharpen. It really is as difficult as sharpening two small blades at one
time.
But, you say, if the tanto point isn’t functional, then why is it
featured on the world’s most famous blade of all time, the Japanese
Samurai sword? Well, I’m glad you asked. The kissaki, or tanto point,
became popular during times of relative peace within feudal Japan,
when Katana were admired more for their intrinsic beauty than for
their practicality in battle. These sword points were costly to
manufacture, costly to have sharpened and polished and would
render a sword useless once the hardened steel was sharpened away. I
assure you that many swords in Japan that actually saw continuous
use in battles had curved tips (like the reground folding knife picture
here). Some of these swords have survived to be included in
museums, but many of these desirable blades were used up over
decades until they were no longer useful, then probably re-forged into
new tools. Again, I’ll mention that the common tendency is for the
less useful blades to survive in pristine condition and make it into
museums. Remember what the most prestigious Japanese Temple
carpenters (Miya Daiku) say, that the best blades get used up and
never make it to the second-hand store.
So why, pray tell, are these blades so popular? The answer lies in
successful marketing that capitalizes on consumer’s desire for the new
and exotic. The cutlery industry as a whole was in a funk back in the
beginning of the 1980s. Manufacturers were offering the same knife
models that they had for decades and, frankly, consumers were
hungry for something new. The new company Cold Steel, under the
leadership of pioneer Lynn Thompson, introduced the American
version of the Japanese tanto, and they sold like hot cakes. You may
wonder just how many of those knives were ever used on a day-today basis. Based on my understanding of practical cutlery, I’d say
very few. But that didn’t matter to the millions of customers who
bought them. The same phenomenon occurred with other exotic
blades, such as the flat-backed (incorrect design) chisel grind blades,
the karambit knives, radically recurved blades, the Tom Brown
Tracker (pound for pound, the most useless knife that can’t even be
improved by regrinding) and recently, knives with radically bent
handles in relation to the angle of the blade. Successful marketing
does not equate with successful, practical knives!
Now, before you take me for a prude, let me say that I love
capitalism and the free market. If you want to buy exotic knives, good
on you and good for the economy. Now at least you won’t be under
the impression that you are buying a practical knife.
Good side-by-side demonstration!
thanks!
Looks like the pin failed on the Lite..
You could combine the good blade with G10 handle.. 😂
could be possible!
Капот уже броневой стал от ударов)) пора менять) спасибо за отличный формат контента! Вседа знаешь что ждать от ножа, особенно если ты фанат cold steel))
thanks, i guess!
I was thinking on get the Sr1 lite...as always say, you don't have to buy a fancy blade to do the job...Cold Steel takes whatever cheap steel and transform it in super steel...now I'm sure I want one of them
the SR1 lites are awesome, u can not go wront with them!
Simultaneous progress
It ’s very interesting.
It will be helpful
it will for sure!
Joe you got me wanting an sr1 lite tanto.
you need one!!!!
Thank you for work, Joe. God bless you and Germany.
thanks!"
Salut Joe, merci pour cette très bonne vidéo
gracias!
I was wondering if we'd ever see a pivot shear off.
EDIT: Did the pivot shear off? Or did the screw just release itself? It's possible that nothing failed at all on the SR-1 Lite and it just needed maintenance.
could be the case, that it just need a service, but i am not home, so i can't check right now, i will ma ke a short video about the "screw",if i can find it!!!
Agree. Seems unless the pivot broke, or the screw backed out, even a failed lock wouldn’t let the blade actually separate from the knife intact like it did.
These tests just might make me have to rethink 8Cr13MoV.
Awesome tests Joe!
Great collection of videos 👍👌😎
thanks my friend Alex!
@@joex Welcome my friend Joe ))
Another one,Joe is a knife killer 🤣✌🏻
thanks i think i am!
I owned the SR1 Tanto before the lite came out. I absolutely trust it
cool!
ещё ни разу так не переживал за ножи🤣🤣🤣🤣
thanks!
SR1 LITE is the one I picked. Thick cheaper steel. Not as chippy and you wont feel bad abusing it
awesome!
Thank you for the video. I just went forward for a sr1 lite because of your video
cool, nice to hear!
Now this is a fuckin torture test!
yeah"
My neighbor's think I'm remodeling the house with all the pounding. LOL👍👍👍👍👍
hahah, best sound there is, despite a woman...
I puckered HARD at the 12:00 mark. That was close! So, the lock failed and almost cut you, but then it locked back up for dozens more strikes?
it did good the blade!
I bought both to complement my Fällkniven F1 and A1 fixed blades.
cool!
They're both pretty badass. The only 2 reasons to buy expensive knives instead of these are aesthetics and weight. 6 ounces and a bit ugly, but theyre killer!
they are!
Man, you are breathtaking!
thanks, this is why i wear a gasmask!
Good test and review, thanks.
u are welcome!
These tests are even scary
a bit maybe!
The budget 8cr14 steel might be tougher and softer than s35vn. Good to know the blade won't break so easily for how cheap it is.
yeah, it did good!
Thanks ok ok ok ok ok
ok!
Glad I have the Lite! Aus10 is tougher than s35vn!💪💪💪
Sorry, 8cr13mov…
it is 8cr14....
@@joex It’s 8cr13mov, Joe! A tough steel, for a stainless!😀
AUS 10 dulls quickly for me. Seems soft.
@@kengaroo120 ok1
No siempre lo caro significa que vale más....en este caso me gusta más la rotura de la versión lite la hoja sigue intacta ha sido solo por el eje.
entender!
Great comparisson!
Do you ever dream about breaking knives at night?
no, i dream about chicks on d...!
Good job.
thanks!
Very nice test ❤
thanks!
Excellent
thanks
real content
thanks!
Bought the recon and recon 1 tanto because of your videos JOE X... Hilarious how pissy the haters can be. Wish you were in the states I'd buy you a knife to test once in awhile!
cool, thanks for your comment!! living in the USA would be awesome!! cheers!
I got 2 4max scouts thanks to Joe😂...and no need for a fixed blade anymore😂
I wish you would test the edge retention on more conventional cutting task like rope/cardboard/rubber/paper 1st before the torture test, for us average joes who don’t have a tactical/outdoor/survival use for a folder. Either way I’m a fan.
Does anyone know a channel that test the edge retention on more conventional cutting task?
my channel is the ONLY channel you need!
@@joex lol true
I got the original tanto
cool!
That car has good ventilation! Lol!
best car i ever destroyed!
These tests prove that the cheap, lite versions of knives is as good and better than those knives that cost twice as much.
i agree!!
👍
yes!
Woq❤
这个测试看着特别治愈
thanks!
I’m disappointed in the lock on the sr1. I expected more from there custom lock from cold steel, still love the knife though I prefer the clip point version better
ok
mir gefällt deine neue sr1 elektriker messer version
ok!!
Someday when you get enough viewers/sponsors, please review masks, gloves etc, since you wear them while performing some pretty intense stuff!
good idea!!
Looks like on the Lite the failure was Loctite - screw vibrated loose.
yeah, could be!
OMG...you guys are going ApeShit on those knives...And it's exactly what the Consumers need to see...and based off this brutalization to KnifeKind I made a decision that saved me money.
awesome my friend! i am here for a reason after all!!!
Cheaper looks better- looks repairable.
yes, agree!
Did you try to install the sr1 lite blade in the sr1 handle? Then whack the shit out of the lite blade...again 😁👍
nope!
I really hope some spyderco fan boy will watch this video :)
haha!!
Spyderco fanboys aren't concerned with hard use anything - just the latest edge retention and corrosion resistance capabilities. Spyderco fanboys are steel junkies/snobs.
Cold Steel fanboys are hardcore users and abusers of their CS products.
Do you see any Medford, Strider, or Microtech hard use, test, and abuse videos being made? Of course not. Those are expensive safe queen mall ninja blades.
@@TheScotchaholic wait for my spyderco video!!!
@@joex
Should be very revealing! Lol
Time for a BK-2 yet? 🤩
soon!
This video can be used to attract birds to your window
good idea! but we have so many here!
Hi, thank you for the great video. I did a test of these two knives - a more "common or practical test" if you will, and in standard performance, the S35VN version is (for me and my friend, who I invited to the test because two opinions are better than just one), better in standard use, but compare what I get for the money, the Lite version is something I can clearly recommend over the original SR 1. Have a great time. FM
thanks a lot! cheers!
Where's the test video?
@@TheScotchaholic th-cam.com/video/3YyT6KgRUnA/w-d-xo.html and SR 1 Lite Clip point (only) th-cam.com/video/UVqB0YGbBDg/w-d-xo.html FM
new mask ?!
no, just washed!
If you can dodge a wrench you can dodge a ball
true!
@@joex seriously though thank you for this video. That’s a lot of work to help a lot of men make a decision. An important decision in my book.
@@ManafterYahsownheart thanks!
Someone remix this into a sick beat!
that would be freaking fantastic!
What ER folder can handle it?
everything dies!
@@joex Thank you for honest tests and CS for honest knives.
@@rihsatqvert4561 thanks, no one lives 4ever!
I've been waiting for this let's see how she does
pretty good, i would say!
Yes definitely would get the lite before I buy the sr1 at least the blade stayed in one piece they have a new one they just did a stress test on the engage i believe is the name of it that thing held 730 pounds!!!!! It has their new atlas lock on it looks like it would be a good contender for your stress tests 🤣🤣 will make sure the name is correct
@@joex yes it is called the engage 3.5 inch svn35 blade
@@joex also did you know you benchmade infidel fixed blade is hrc 62 i would love to see you abuse that knife if you haven't already
@@brandonpausta2206 no not yet!
That's what happens when you do dumb shit to knives. They break.
exactly!
He must be a rich man. This little bastard costs 244 dollars. And he just breaks it for a laugh!
But it did hold up brilliantly 👏🏻
What had to be done, had to be done...
The Lite model is only $40.00
I refuse to adorn my pocket with Chinese garbage steel
#metoo!!!
How did the garbage steel outlast the more premium steel?
TheScotchaholic it can’t keep an edge, ud be better off with a railroad spike
@@demo2952
If edge holding is my biggest concern, I'll spend under $90 for a Kershaw Link with a 20cv blade, (which is better than S35VN) and another $20 for a dedicated prybar.
TheScotchaholic you go buy your budget cold steel. I prefer upgraded materials. Mr. Joe X really punishes a blade but who would chop a cinder block with it in real life?
This is the most precise, scientifically performed tests I've seen since the atomic bomb...
awesome, i will get my PHD in Sience soon!
I just ordered a SR1lite tanto today...instead of the SR1. Which one if you had a choice???
@@desertsun1000 lite!
@@desertsun1000 SR1 lite Tanto as well!
Someone needs to test the SR1 on Let's Go Brandon 😆
He's called "the destroyer"... should be called " the ruiner"! Lol. As almost nothing survives his "tests".
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