The reason why people were asking for radiant for Golden gun, is the fact that it's the only super that reaches its highest potential with radiant, whereas every other one and done super you can just pop it and it does its max damage, but with Golden gun in order for it to do its max damage it needs to have radiant
Kinda on the same topic (not that its going to be the same caliber of damage) doesn't throwing the smoke on void before shooting mobious buff the damage? (Which cross didn't do) cuz the first shot also applies weaken, buffing the damage of successive shot(s) but if you throw the smoke first it then buffs the damage on all the mobious shots
@@kaicrutcher1313 All you would have to do to see the correct max damage would be to figure out how much a single volley of tether shot does and increase it's damage by 30% and multiply that number by 3. You could easily achieve this by using Tractor to debuff so the first shot does maximum damage, though in those case you'd be sacrificing your heavy and exotic to do this, so in most cases unless you were raiding, and even then, it just wouldn't be worth it.
@kaicrutcher1313 no that's adding a grenade / melee to the super for weaken. If you wanna weaken everything should everything be tested after tractor cannon? Why not? Cuz that's not the super.
I love Cross saying "retiring after this video." He will come back next big change to the sandbox for sure. Give this man a raise for all the work he's doing.
happy to see the maxed out attempt on Silence and Squall, my favorite of the hunter supers by far, seeing it near the top of one shot supers makes me smile
@@lbozo9580I completely agree. I think that most roaming supers at base, need to be doing at least 1.2 million damage. You think that's a lot of damage but it's over a 15 second long super. No one uses roaming supers because even if they do a little bit more damage than one-off supers, you are stuck in them for 15 seconds. Plus most roaming supers you have to be at the feet of the boss in order to use it. And any one-off supers like storms edge, needs to do way more damage than one-off supers that you can use from a distance
And this is the reason why, if I ever use Silence and Squall, I'll gravitate to pure stasis as its fragment, Durance, increases the duration on field. Prismatic loses out on that, and would only play into prismaric for facet of Ruin to combo in ice breaker for ignitions.
I will never understand why Bungie keeps nerfing Celestial and golden gun when its already pathetically weak. And once it gets fixed to not have increased regen, there will never be a reason to ever use it over stat eaters ever again. This damage testing just shows how pathteically weak hunters are in PVE compared to Titans. And all i heard from titans was "Bungie hates us. Nerf hubter melee builds they arent the melee class" And now titans are the single best super damage in the game BY A MILE. And they have the best neutral game ability BY A MILE. Titans have been at the top of the foodchain far more often than any delusional titan mains want to pretend.
Dude, I’m a Titan main and I totally agree that we are really powerful right now, but you are talking total crap titans have been the worst class in game by far for a very very long time, that is why they have had so many buffs recently, and even with said buffs warlocks and hunter are still amazing in all content, all you have to do is look at the player analysis, hunters and warlocks are far more popular in terms of number of players and how long they have been meta, all that’s happening now is hunters crying because they are no longer the be all and end all of end game damage
@samuelbeckley1870 while i would like to say fair enough my tempest strike was not outdamaging your thundercrash with cuirass of the falling star, something that cannot be said for concecration + synthos against gg with celestial or star eaters
Golden gun will continue to be the meta in dps scenarios, the regen on it now is busted and you don’t use celestial for super regen, you use it as essentially a head start in dps.
@@samuelbeckley1870 The recent Buffs have been a result of Titan Players complaining about the Prismatic Kit. Titans have had the best PvE Kit for a long time only suffering when it came to Raid Boss DPS because of the Supers. You can argue that Build variety has been better on other Classes. I can´t remember when Titan was the "worst Class by far" in PvE. Certainly not any time after Hammer Titan became viable years ago and it is still the best Build for Survivability and made Titan the best Class for Solo Content. As I said, Titan only suffered from variety and Boss DPS Supers (except for TCrash era) which doesn´t make it the worst Class when you keep Builds like Hammer Titan. Class Popularity doesn´t tell you anything about how strong the Class is, especially when everyone wanted a Warlock for Well and a Hunter for Golden Gun/Tether. Raid Bosses, where both of these Classes shine, are just a small part of the Game. Yes, all Classes are currently doing well in all Content but that doesn´t excuse overtuning. Your last sentence is just a bs claim.
@atsukana1704 pretty sure he was saying it as getting the x3 synapse (I think that's the name) when amplified. Allowing it to having a much more longer duration than what it has right now due to needing to stack up the first combo rotation.
@@slingshotnerd The point is to give a greater super extension than normal if you're amplified, thus making it actually have direct subclass verb synergy. Not that its hard to get 3 stacks already.
And to not have ass hit registration/horrible lunge. I don't understand Bungie's obsession with having most, if not all melee based supers have some kind of annoying lunge. The lunge shouldn't apply if something is already THAT close to you. Spectral Blades would be much better if you could actually consistently hit anything with it.
@@dushbig5628 It would be a little over 500k but thats about it. Cross only lunged once away from the boss in the second attempt which translates to maybe 2-3 possible hits in the time. And 500k is really bad compared to other hunter supers and especially in cimparison to his titan video where the worst super was still almost 700k. Better hitreg would overall make the super feel better, but not actually perform much better
Blight ranger is the only time id be ok if friendly fire existed. Imagine your teammates dumping their full load into you (pause) and you reflect it towards the boss with the dmg buff from blight ranger....would be dope asf
5:25 Cross I think what they were saying about raijus harness was that the extra damage was jolt damage. So if you just threw a nade that jolts it would be the same damage, so you could put on a different exotic (like star eaters) for a higher total damage.
@@yadeel8281 How is that being fair? You are acting like people that play Hunter have a distinct personality. It is either everyone that prioritizes their own Class or people just want to have balanced Classes, especially when many of us play all Classes and that is why we really notice the difference. I am sick of these BS claims.
@@fettuccine9896 THIS! I just don't understand in a game where most play all classes and constantly complain about the actual DPS class being too strong in DPS scenarios is mental with the actual DPS class being weak in almost every other aspect it just never made any sense to me
It's funny how titan mains complain about needing their "personality" since hunters r taking their "melee class" thing but I've never heard anyone talking about hunters class thing, "assassins?" Like in destiny what is that? How the only sneaky like assassin is probably void and stasis for shuriken and maybe solar with the knives but other than that it's more of a ability instead of class thing other than that warlocks and titans r now doing more dmg than hunters which is crazy I thought high super dps was a "hunter" class thing but ig not
Yeah, I felt that way with previous damage testing that put Golden Gun below a lot of the oneshot supers from the other classes. "Well, it's ranged, so it should do less damage!" Sure, but you also have to land the hit to do any damage. There have been so many times I miss the crit spot, or even just miss entirely, with Golden Gun and it feels awful. Especially when you're using Nighthawk. And as for flavor, I wish Bungie would give some sort of backstab powered melee to the Nightstalker. The smoke bomb that weakens just doesn't cut it for me.
Once they've got it in a good spot balance-wise in pvp I'd frankly love to see Storm's Edge get a pve buff. I personally feel its already there after the nerf, but, that might be biased for my love of using it. I feel like if they can make it actually good at fitting the weird middle-ground between a roaming super and a one-off super it'd be pretty fun. Like they could absolutely make its cooldown way faster in pve without affecting pvp and get it to a point thats like, slower than a roaming super like arc staff but faster than most one-offs like gathering storm or something. Then make a good exotic to pair with it, a raiju / shards of galanor / etc equivalent, maybe make it apply jolt as part of the exotic (could be cool/flashy if it applied a jolt aoe after the teleport but before the attack) and get some on-kill regen looping or something.
They need to add what they did to titan barricade to blight ranger where it forces everything to focus on you then they need to remove the stun effect that staggers them and stops damaging you. It still won't be the best but it would make the concept they're shooting for a lot better.
Hunters getting nerfed over and over has really turned me away from the game lately. ITL was one of my favorite content drops because it gave me onslaught and I would grind for hours on end. Now, onslaught is back and I just don't feel like playing. Instead of making a variety of things stronger for other classes, they just keep nerfing Hunters more and more. It's the antithesis of fun. Anyway, I know that nobody cares about my feelings for the game, but even though TFS was better than Lightfall videos like this one explain why expansions sell less and less as time goes on
Blight Ranger during the Corrupted Puppeteer boss might actually go nuts because of how add dense it is with all the clones shooting the shit out of you AND you can move out of the lighting while in it.
well damage wise still kinda meh but that bossfight is so tough solo that it becomes a pretty safe option if you wanna do hunter solo and like not be invisible
Hinters are meant to be the glass cannons of destiny and the fact their supers are hitting so poorly, even with exotics like star eaters and celestial is pretty piss poor. I knew they had been nerfed but this is ridiculous. Reason why i just refuse to ppay hunter anymore is in part largely to the last round of nerfs it got and this proves it was a good call.
I’m just hoping he doesn’t add apotheosis veil ability spam into the damage and act as if it’s part of the damage of the super which defo shouldn’t count. also from what I know rn titans have the highest one and done (thunder crash) and highest roaming (glacial quake and even the shield one rn due to the accidental buff). I know those roaming supers are very specific for the encounters they work in and even thunder crash has encounters it doesn’t work in although axes are basically the same damage as nova so they are doing insanely well with super dps
@@RandomGuy-ci9nt hunters rule PvP and are cry babies in pve although the guy who commented on the video is correct about the super thing cus titans are just op rn so I’m not insulting him
Classic meme when the WORST titan super was still better than the halfway point of the hunter supers lmao. Good thing we nerfed hunters though. Titans NEEDED to be the meta in EVERY activity.
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As far as identity goes Warlocks/Titans have always been utility, while Hunter has always been the selfish damage class. So Hunters suddenly outclassing everyone else with Celestial/Still Hunt made sense to me. Then it was nerfed, and Hunter didn't really have anything to stand out. I get that we all want to feel powerful, but we should also be okay with some classes shining in certain scenarios.
After seeing the Titan video, its very obvious Hunter damage needs a buff. Behemoth is wildly out of band damage wise, and prismatic warlock can do some nutty shit
Behemoth is completely fine, because you can't use it for any ranged bosses and it's solely reliant on a big boss breaking all the crystals. And honestly all classes with their roaming supers need to be doing close to behemoth level damage. Roman supers need to be the highest damaging abilities in the game, because you have to stay in them for the 15 seconds you have the super.
@ThePackman627 I agree there. My point is behemoth is, all things being equal, wildly more powerful than other roaming supers, especially supers that are only useful for grounded enemies.
I kinda had an idea for this. What if they brought back mask of the third man, adds 1 more charge + refunds a charge when you kill 3 or more enemies. Melee kills fund storm's edge. Would be cool but bungie is completely out of creativity
I am using spectral blades on my invis omnioculus hunter right now.... its working rly well to clean up waves of strong ads and as a bonus oh shit button. Rly like it now with the cooldown.
When you're testing something like Blight Ranger that reflects damage and you don't want your enemy to flinch, stop reflecting the damage at his face if you're not getting any sort of precision damage
If titan supers do more dps than hunter supers on average than what’s the hunters identity then. If bungie doesn’t fix this by the time Destiny rising comes out I may never come back.
@ no that’s void hunter, as that’s what Cayde said for the reveal of nightstalker And even that super is supposed to enhance dps, there’s no longer an identity for hunters if there not the highest dps, that’s why there survivability was always so bad to make up for there large damage but now there’s no point in running the class.
@@traviszane5334 hunters entire identity was highest single target DPS. Titans are now the highest damage class and has the most survivability (or at least really close with warlocks.
Some supers are meant for multiple targets, others are meant for single targets. The problem is, we’ve become so powerful that our weapons and abilities can easily nuke rooms of adds with ease, essentially doing what roaming supers should do, but way better. If players aren’t using roaming supers, then that means there isn’t a need for it. Outside of “fun” factors, I think this issue with roaming supers will continue to be a thing because of power creep. I mean, I guess Bungie could go overkill and just make these supers completely busted, but then that just feeds in to this power creep problem.
Cross why are you not dodging during arc staff with raiden flux and lethal current im sure it increases the speed of arc staff and procs lethal current
For me ever since eps 1 after final shape season, blad barrage feels bugged or nerfed 14:10 it fire less blads then it use to, but i do love it with young ahamkara spine rotation, it does a lot more damage with ignitions
case and point why i stopped playing the game. Hunters suck right now so bad to the point I have only played titan for contest dungeon day and haven't touched it since then. I think I'm done until the next raid drops/D3
While i doubt it would move the needle much, golden gun deadshot should be able to apply at least 50 scorch on hit so you can get an ignition (and therefore an extra shot) every 2 shots on beefy targets. Just over 300k damage for a super with star-eater is pitiful. I know it's meant for ad clear, but still.
The problem is he wasn't close enough to consistently proc raijus harness honestly is only good for the constant super regen and niche-ly enough for the first vespers boss
With the nerf of storms edge, its harder to use it in pve specially using it in boss rooms in onslaught salvation, every activation just fumbles and no whirling procs. Don't get me wrong i love the super, but nerf really hurt it.
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This guy looks like a Hunter, acts like a Titan, but mains a Warlock..
Truly a Destiny player of all time..
Plays titan better half of the time anyways lol
The reason why people were asking for radiant for Golden gun, is the fact that it's the only super that reaches its highest potential with radiant, whereas every other one and done super you can just pop it and it does its max damage, but with Golden gun in order for it to do its max damage it needs to have radiant
Same with blade barrage, idk why he insisted radiant doesnt help, it literally adds more projectiles
It literally says in the description "Benefits from Radiant", I don't know how you could miss it
Kinda on the same topic (not that its going to be the same caliber of damage) doesn't throwing the smoke on void before shooting mobious buff the damage? (Which cross didn't do) cuz the first shot also applies weaken, buffing the damage of successive shot(s) but if you throw the smoke first it then buffs the damage on all the mobious shots
@@kaicrutcher1313 All you would have to do to see the correct max damage would be to figure out how much a single volley of tether shot does and increase it's damage by 30% and multiply that number by 3. You could easily achieve this by using Tractor to debuff so the first shot does maximum damage, though in those case you'd be sacrificing your heavy and exotic to do this, so in most cases unless you were raiding, and even then, it just wouldn't be worth it.
@kaicrutcher1313 no that's adding a grenade / melee to the super for weaken. If you wanna weaken everything should everything be tested after tractor cannon? Why not? Cuz that's not the super.
I love Cross saying "retiring after this video." He will come back next big change to the sandbox for sure. Give this man a raise for all the work he's doing.
Damage testing videos from you are high key my favorite form of entertainment
Bungie: Due to hunter supers under performing, we are nerfing stompees.
@@markjordan7412 seems fair tbh
This is so sad, nerf bubble more
happy to see the maxed out attempt on Silence and Squall, my favorite of the hunter supers by far, seeing it near the top of one shot supers makes me smile
So funny how spectral blades have gotten so many buffs yet its still so bad 😂
@@DaToby98 just give us katana with a big sword swing hit box fr
I said it on the Titan video and I'll say it again here: Bungie needs to make supers feel super.
The fuck does that even mean tho? Half of the supers in the game are broken rn
@@ekkaar he means pretty easily that supers should feel more powerful, when I use a super it should do alot more than a measly like 600k damage
@@lbozo9580 most supers that do 600k are one off supers used in a dps rotation. Nice try tho (ignore spectral blades)
@@lbozo9580I completely agree. I think that most roaming supers at base, need to be doing at least 1.2 million damage. You think that's a lot of damage but it's over a 15 second long super. No one uses roaming supers because even if they do a little bit more damage than one-off supers, you are stuck in them for 15 seconds.
Plus most roaming supers you have to be at the feet of the boss in order to use it.
And any one-off supers like storms edge, needs to do way more damage than one-off supers that you can use from a distance
It’s just bad when I can use all three of my weapons and get a dramatically higher dmg output than one of my supers lmao.
And this is the reason why, if I ever use Silence and Squall, I'll gravitate to pure stasis as its fragment, Durance, increases the duration on field. Prismatic loses out on that, and would only play into prismaric for facet of Ruin to combo in ice breaker for ignitions.
Ruin buffs the range of Ignitions but not the damage, so I'm pretty sure you can run pure Stasis with Icebreaker and get better damage.
@blackfang0815 just goes to show how little I play PvE, lol.
I will never understand why Bungie keeps nerfing Celestial and golden gun when its already pathetically weak. And once it gets fixed to not have increased regen, there will never be a reason to ever use it over stat eaters ever again. This damage testing just shows how pathteically weak hunters are in PVE compared to Titans.
And all i heard from titans was "Bungie hates us. Nerf hubter melee builds they arent the melee class"
And now titans are the single best super damage in the game BY A MILE. And they have the best neutral game ability BY A MILE.
Titans have been at the top of the foodchain far more often than any delusional titan mains want to pretend.
They need the help, they aren't smart enough to buildcraft properly.
Dude, I’m a Titan main and I totally agree that we are really powerful right now, but you are talking total crap titans have been the worst class in game by far for a very very long time, that is why they have had so many buffs recently, and even with said buffs warlocks and hunter are still amazing in all content, all you have to do is look at the player analysis, hunters and warlocks are far more popular in terms of number of players and how long they have been meta, all that’s happening now is hunters crying because they are no longer the be all and end all of end game damage
@samuelbeckley1870 while i would like to say fair enough my tempest strike was not outdamaging your thundercrash with cuirass of the falling star, something that cannot be said for concecration + synthos against gg with celestial or star eaters
Golden gun will continue to be the meta in dps scenarios, the regen on it now is busted and you don’t use celestial for super regen, you use it as essentially a head start in dps.
@@samuelbeckley1870 The recent Buffs have been a result of Titan Players complaining about the Prismatic Kit. Titans have had the best PvE Kit for a long time only suffering when it came to Raid Boss DPS because of the Supers. You can argue that Build variety has been better on other Classes.
I can´t remember when Titan was the "worst Class by far" in PvE. Certainly not any time after Hammer Titan became viable years ago and it is still the best Build for Survivability and made Titan the best Class for Solo Content. As I said, Titan only suffered from variety and Boss DPS Supers (except for TCrash era) which doesn´t make it the worst Class when you keep Builds like Hammer Titan.
Class Popularity doesn´t tell you anything about how strong the Class is, especially when everyone wanted a Warlock for Well and a Hunter for Golden Gun/Tether. Raid Bosses, where both of these Classes shine, are just a small part of the Game.
Yes, all Classes are currently doing well in all Content but that doesn´t excuse overtuning.
Your last sentence is just a bs claim.
With radiant flux they should give you max stacks if you pop super while amplified.
It doesn’t stack?
@@atsukana1704 it stacks to 3
@atsukana1704 pretty sure he was saying it as getting the x3 synapse (I think that's the name) when amplified.
Allowing it to having a much more longer duration than what it has right now due to needing to stack up the first combo rotation.
Or you could just spam attack to get x3 in 1 freaking second
@@slingshotnerd The point is to give a greater super extension than normal if you're amplified, thus making it actually have direct subclass verb synergy. Not that its hard to get 3 stacks already.
Blight ranger doing more than star eater with gathering storm hurts my brain.
Edit: spectral needs to apply volatile on light hits, holy hell.
And to not have ass hit registration/horrible lunge. I don't understand Bungie's obsession with having most, if not all melee based supers have some kind of annoying lunge. The lunge shouldn't apply if something is already THAT close to you. Spectral Blades would be much better if you could actually consistently hit anything with it.
@@dushbig5628 It would be a little over 500k but thats about it. Cross only lunged once away from the boss in the second attempt which translates to maybe 2-3 possible hits in the time. And 500k is really bad compared to other hunter supers and especially in cimparison to his titan video where the worst super was still almost 700k. Better hitreg would overall make the super feel better, but not actually perform much better
Hunters need help compared to other classes supers
Blight ranger is the only time id be ok if friendly fire existed. Imagine your teammates dumping their full load into you (pause) and you reflect it towards the boss with the dmg buff from blight ranger....would be dope asf
There was a brief period of time in Witch Queen where that exact strat was meta.
5:25 Cross I think what they were saying about raijus harness was that the extra damage was jolt damage. So if you just threw a nade that jolts it would be the same damage, so you could put on a different exotic (like star eaters) for a higher total damage.
Not quite. They were talking about the jolting shockwave that comes out from you. It does a bit (like 50,000 if I recall)
Damn now I see why hunters want a titan nerf 🤣🤣
Well yeah. If we ask for a buff, it will be nerfed within a month.
@@LI_MIGI Tbf hunters want everything nerfed but themselves, especially those of the PvP variety
@@yadeel8281 I don’t want to nerf anything, I just want my class to feel good 😭
@@yadeel8281 How is that being fair? You are acting like people that play Hunter have a distinct personality. It is either everyone that prioritizes their own Class or people just want to have balanced Classes, especially when many of us play all Classes and that is why we really notice the difference. I am sick of these BS claims.
@@yadeel8281PvP in destiny 2 isn’t real PvP that’s a joke of a mode, nothings balanced correctly
I can’t tell you how much I love you giving your chat sh1t when they start acting up. It’s THE best entertainment.
19:01 the mythical dad sneeze
Arc staff being viable is wild, what a time to be alive
Amen, and I was an arcstrider main during the early D2 days.
Been waiting for arc staff to make a return love that it's good now
Based on your numbers, Bungie has successfully made the Hunter useless...
Still gonna use it anyways
I mean, objectively hunter supers are depressing compared to the other 2 lol.
Gotta love it when the dps class is pathetic
@@fettuccine9896 THIS! I just don't understand in a game where most play all classes and constantly complain about the actual DPS class being too strong in DPS scenarios is mental with the actual DPS class being weak in almost every other aspect it just never made any sense to me
Wish prismatic hunter had arc staff lol
Same!
Wish it had Blade Barrage tbh
Grappling around with arc staff would be so damn fun sadly we got storms edge which is probably the shittiest pve super
@ Its not the worst certainly like using it with SES but yeah Staff and Barrage would just be utter Chefs kiss in Pris
right instead we only get the pvp only super in prismatic for arc which sucks
It's funny how titan mains complain about needing their "personality" since hunters r taking their "melee class" thing but I've never heard anyone talking about hunters class thing, "assassins?" Like in destiny what is that? How the only sneaky like assassin is probably void and stasis for shuriken and maybe solar with the knives but other than that it's more of a ability instead of class thing other than that warlocks and titans r now doing more dmg than hunters which is crazy I thought high super dps was a "hunter" class thing but ig not
Been saying this for a min lol
Ninjas and cowboys
A Hunter's identity is dying and being a massive edgelord for the sake of dying and being a massive edgelord.
Yeah, I felt that way with previous damage testing that put Golden Gun below a lot of the oneshot supers from the other classes. "Well, it's ranged, so it should do less damage!" Sure, but you also have to land the hit to do any damage. There have been so many times I miss the crit spot, or even just miss entirely, with Golden Gun and it feels awful. Especially when you're using Nighthawk.
And as for flavor, I wish Bungie would give some sort of backstab powered melee to the Nightstalker. The smoke bomb that weakens just doesn't cut it for me.
The whole point is titans only have one identity in the game. Hunters and warlocks can express it through many different ways.
Once they've got it in a good spot balance-wise in pvp I'd frankly love to see Storm's Edge get a pve buff. I personally feel its already there after the nerf, but, that might be biased for my love of using it.
I feel like if they can make it actually good at fitting the weird middle-ground between a roaming super and a one-off super it'd be pretty fun.
Like they could absolutely make its cooldown way faster in pve without affecting pvp and get it to a point thats like, slower than a roaming super like arc staff but faster than most one-offs like gathering storm or something.
Then make a good exotic to pair with it, a raiju / shards of galanor / etc equivalent, maybe make it apply jolt as part of the exotic (could be cool/flashy if it applied a jolt aoe after the teleport but before the attack) and get some on-kill regen looping or something.
Hunters had Celestial and Stillhunt and it got nerfed due to complaints. Now look at them.
The editors should separate the roaming supers from the one-offs, blueberries are gonna have a field day with this in LFG
Raiju's technically doesnt buff the actual super damage itself, but it does cause an explosion on cast that added a little bit.
Exactly, just a bit of extra damage on cast, provided you're nearby enough
They need to add what they did to titan barricade to blight ranger where it forces everything to focus on you then they need to remove the stun effect that staggers them and stops damaging you. It still won't be the best but it would make the concept they're shooting for a lot better.
Hunters getting nerfed over and over has really turned me away from the game lately. ITL was one of my favorite content drops because it gave me onslaught and I would grind for hours on end. Now, onslaught is back and I just don't feel like playing. Instead of making a variety of things stronger for other classes, they just keep nerfing Hunters more and more. It's the antithesis of fun. Anyway, I know that nobody cares about my feelings for the game, but even though TFS was better than Lightfall videos like this one explain why expansions sell less and less as time goes on
How weak do you want hunters to be? Budgie: yes.
Titan one and done super: 1000000dmg..hunters: 400k yay
Blight Ranger during the Corrupted Puppeteer boss might actually go nuts because of how add dense it is with all the clones shooting the shit out of you AND you can move out of the lighting while in it.
well damage wise still kinda meh but that bossfight is so tough solo that it becomes a pretty safe option if you wanna do hunter solo and like not be invisible
I'd love to see a video on best combinations for overall damage rotation. Like what super and weapon combinations are absolute peak damage per class.
I heard you can stack Stareater and Raiden flux, was hoping aztecross would test this.
aztecross when you're doing these tests set your frames at 60FPS, the lower frames you have the less Desyncing happens on the bosses
The hunter exotic class item with star eaters and ghalanor is so good with buff to roaming supers ✨️
Raijjus harness was wrongly tested, it makes an explosion around YOURSELF so in order to buff the total damage you need to use it CQQ with the boss
You should've cancelled blight ranger super on the end to tack on some extra damage when standing near greg.
Raiden Flux is absolutely amazing now. I used it in the Arms Dealer GM and ended with 235 kills with 88 orbs printed.
Appreciate your testing Cross!!
14:44 oh hell naw editors you're evil for including this ☠️
I think for Blight Ranger, you need to cancel the super at the end to get the extra burst damage explosion as described.
Yep!
Hinters are meant to be the glass cannons of destiny and the fact their supers are hitting so poorly, even with exotics like star eaters and celestial is pretty piss poor. I knew they had been nerfed but this is ridiculous. Reason why i just refuse to ppay hunter anymore is in part largely to the last round of nerfs it got and this proves it was a good call.
Arcstrider main since 2018, what a fun super
Imo Hunter supers suck in comparison to titans(damage wise)... Let's wait for warlocks now
I’m just hoping he doesn’t add apotheosis veil ability spam into the damage and act as if it’s part of the damage of the super which defo shouldn’t count. also from what I know rn titans have the highest one and done (thunder crash) and highest roaming (glacial quake and even the shield one rn due to the accidental buff). I know those roaming supers are very specific for the encounters they work in and even thunder crash has encounters it doesn’t work in although axes are basically the same damage as nova so they are doing insanely well with super dps
What do you expect from hunters, all they do is roll around on the ground.
@223ndog
That's pvp tho?
@@RandomGuy-ci9nt hunters rule PvP and are cry babies in pve although the guy who commented on the video is correct about the super thing cus titans are just op rn so I’m not insulting him
Classic meme when the WORST titan super was still better than the halfway point of the hunter supers lmao. Good thing we nerfed hunters though. Titans NEEDED to be the meta in EVERY activity.
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As far as identity goes Warlocks/Titans have always been utility, while Hunter has always been the selfish damage class. So Hunters suddenly outclassing everyone else with Celestial/Still Hunt made sense to me. Then it was nerfed, and Hunter didn't really have anything to stand out. I get that we all want to feel powerful, but we should also be okay with some classes shining in certain scenarios.
didn't realize how cheeks hunter supers rlly are lol
After seeing the Titan video, its very obvious Hunter damage needs a buff. Behemoth is wildly out of band damage wise, and prismatic warlock can do some nutty shit
Behemoth is completely fine, because you can't use it for any ranged bosses and it's solely reliant on a big boss breaking all the crystals.
And honestly all classes with their roaming supers need to be doing close to behemoth level damage. Roman supers need to be the highest damaging abilities in the game, because you have to stay in them for the 15 seconds you have the super.
@ThePackman627 I agree there. My point is behemoth is, all things being equal, wildly more powerful than other roaming supers, especially supers that are only useful for grounded enemies.
8:02 Got me speechless here
That Raiju Garhering Storm doing such low damage surprised me.
If golden gun marksman is a roaming super, I feel like storms edge should be as well(need that super regen bungo)
New dps strat. Well + blight ranger to block damage and reflect while everyones behind your doing actual dps lol
They need to make an exotic for storms edge that gives it an extra charge ( like Orpheus for void tether
I kinda had an idea for this. What if they brought back mask of the third man, adds 1 more charge + refunds a charge when you kill 3 or more enemies. Melee kills fund storm's edge. Would be cool but bungie is completely out of creativity
Spectral Blades needs to either be overhauled with its hit registration or taken away entirely 😂
@@nottyler6776 why do i see u on every cross video
@ lol I am a channel member. And I keep up with Destiny 2 through his videos so. 😂
Blight ranger needs to agro ads like bubble and shield do now for it to be of any use in general play tbh
Still won’t see use lol, nobody is using their super for something like that ESPECIALLY when something like unbreakable exists. Just purely useless.
Yeah, great suggestion! Also throw in free amplified.
I am using spectral blades on my invis omnioculus hunter right now.... its working rly well to clean up waves of strong ads and as a bonus oh shit button. Rly like it now with the cooldown.
Not 1 biotic enhancement consecration doing more than golden gun….. god I love being a titan
When you're testing something like Blight Ranger that reflects damage and you don't want your enemy to flinch, stop reflecting the damage at his face if you're not getting any sort of precision damage
9:55 Did... Did he forget that he has to cancel the super with Blight Ranger for the extra damage at the end?
Y’all gotta relax. Dude is not a Hunter main. Hop in chat when he does these
Roger’s harness 2:59
If titan supers do more dps than hunter supers on average than what’s the hunters identity then. If bungie doesn’t fix this by the time Destiny rising comes out I may never come back.
Hunter identity was never being high damage. It has always been scouts and assassin's going invisible and taking out an enemy before they know it
@ no that’s void hunter, as that’s what Cayde said for the reveal of nightstalker And even that super is supposed to enhance dps, there’s no longer an identity for hunters if there not the highest dps, that’s why there survivability was always so bad to make up for there large damage but now there’s no point in running the class.
hunter dps got lost
@@traviszane5334 hunters entire identity was highest single target DPS. Titans are now the highest damage class and has the most survivability (or at least really close with warlocks.
I’m betting on spectral blade 🤞
How much time it takes to do the 800k vs the 1.2 mil with radient flux matters.
I think arc compounding works with the moth build as well so it's just doing crazy damage rn.
Aztecross having some choice fashion with hunters
10:25 for single targets. For multiple it’s kvostov
I had around the same celestial super regen with my revision zero with vorpal on light burst
Some supers are meant for multiple targets, others are meant for single targets.
The problem is, we’ve become so powerful that our weapons and abilities can easily nuke rooms of adds with ease, essentially doing what roaming supers should do, but way better. If players aren’t using roaming supers, then that means there isn’t a need for it. Outside of “fun” factors, I think this issue with roaming supers will continue to be a thing because of power creep. I mean, I guess Bungie could go overkill and just make these supers completely busted, but then that just feeds in to this power creep problem.
Cross why are you not dodging during arc staff with raiden flux and lethal current im sure it increases the speed of arc staff and procs lethal current
Bungie needs to improve the hit registration for spectral blades as well as the titan strand super
Really wish you would take full advantage of blight ranger and cancel at the boss' feet when the super is about to end.
I don't understand why Bungie game devs doesn't buff the damage for Stasis in a season dedicated specifically for it. And that goes for the 3 classes
Behemoth does NOT need a damage buff lmao
Silently anticipating the warlock testing.
For me ever since eps 1 after final shape season, blad barrage feels bugged or nerfed 14:10 it fire less blads then it use to, but i do love it with young ahamkara spine rotation, it does a lot more damage with ignitions
Odd that Radiant buffs reflect damage on Blight Ranger. What a strange exotic
Yeah, makes me wonder if weapon surges work too.
case and point why i stopped playing the game. Hunters suck right now so bad to the point I have only played titan for contest dungeon day and haven't touched it since then. I think I'm done until the next raid drops/D3
While i doubt it would move the needle much, golden gun deadshot should be able to apply at least 50 scorch on hit so you can get an ignition (and therefore an extra shot) every 2 shots on beefy targets. Just over 300k damage for a super with star-eater is pitiful. I know it's meant for ad clear, but still.
did they rework raijus harness? i dont remeber it doing that
Raiju’s harness doesn’t buff damage, its damage increased because got struck by lightning bolts on cast. Don’t be doubting us hunter mains 😂
Spectral Blades + that one chest piece that buffs it?
How much extra damage do you get in prismatic?
I think if Bungie wants more people to use 6 shot Goldie in pve, lucky pants should work with the super
Still can't beat Blade Barrage's activation sound. One of my favorites
Idk if im more disappointed in how Golden Gun performed or should be happy Arc Hunter is doing good damage
I am waiting for warlock as warlock main
golden gun regen isnt the W people think it is compared to Titans overhaul chonk
The problem is he wasn't close enough to consistently proc raijus harness honestly is only good for the constant super regen and niche-ly enough for the first vespers boss
I wonder if you canceled blight ranger before phase ended
Did they nerf blade barrage this episode? I used to main it and it shredded
17:50 "you missed half the super" man he wasn't hitting 1M even if he hit all of it.
Man, at this point, make spectral blade the FASTEST super.
raiju's gives the jolting storm around you so you have to be above them for extra damage
Cross still refusing to test the detonation damage for blight ranger irks me.
But benefitting from buffs is news to me lol
They should leave celestial alone. It requires a decent amount of damage to regenerate. Seems fine.
“Wow, really? I was expecting more.” Cross starting to sound like my ex.
Hunters had 1 moment of shine vs the witness with still hunt and now everything is cooked.
Because of the recent glitch with titans sentinel shield we decided to further nerf Hunters
I would've suggest a funny bet
Star eater spectral
vs
Triton vice glaive melee spam (maybe with Winterbite, just feeling quirky)
With the nerf of storms edge, its harder to use it in pve specially using it in boss rooms in onslaught salvation, every activation just fumbles and no whirling procs. Don't get me wrong i love the super, but nerf really hurt it.