How the retro gaming scene works: Step one: Spend 1000 hours researching, comparing, purchasing, tweaking and messing around with the hardware. Step 2: Spend 10 hours playing the games.
It really is. By the time you make everything work, you're sick and tired that you just try everything out if they work lol. But personally, the tweaking and messing around is 90% of the fun.
10 hours? i'm impressed, personally I spend 1000 hours setting them up then maybe 2 minutes checking each game works perfectly then the device goes in a drawer never to be seen again.
I am just going to state this....I have been looking for a channel that FINALLY has a color "wheel" comparison chart so I can finally fully see the actual nuances. THANK YOU!!! Please do not change this format!!
So, we have to choose between the RG350M with perfect aluminium case, perfect sticks, perfect screen but not enough powerful ; the RG351P with good plastic case, perfect sticks, enough powerful but shitty screen and the retroid pocket 2 with shitty plastic, shitty sticks but enough powerful and perfect screen. Waiting for a retroid pocket 3, a RG351M or something else seems the best choice. ;) You know what ? I love you guys to have had the patience to have tested all of these stuffs.
This comparison was excellent. You explained the pros and cons of each very well and it made it really easy to narrow it down to whats best for me. Keep it up.
I liked seeing the comparisons, pros and cons of each system, as I was considering all 3 of them at one point. I went with the 351P because I liked the layout of the controls, and I do also like that it uses the Emulation Station interface. I don't really care about playing the high end stuff too much, I mostly wanted something to play the old school handheld games on (GB, Game Gear, etc) so I dug the fact that it had a color that matched my original GBA too :)
Honestly, you are the best retro handheld reviewer out there, you really nail down the little details which are so important to the fan scene. Really looking forward to future content and you will be my go-to TH-cam channel on the subject from henceforth!
I was pretty overwhelmed by the amount of discussion about these devices, the differences, the similarities. And you made it so simple, thank you for this, gonna go with your judgment and start with the 351P. THANK YOU for taking so much time to help folks out on this
@@RetroGameCorps you got me back on board with the retro games, I haven't owned or played a game since PS2, but was missing NES, snes side scroller fun and your help guided me to a affordable system that is great. I wish I had 2 more hands so I could give 4 thumbs up
Ive actually run goldeneye just with sound off if feels fine, sound on, garbage. Kinda sad as the music is a big part of it but I couldn't notice the slow down visually
Super solid reviews man. Just now getting into retro handhelds and you've made narrowing down my choice so so simple. Really appreciate you putting in so much effort for this video. It really helps people like me who get overwhelmed by choices. Keep it up.
I've been researching and when it comes down to it? Ps1 and SNES RPGs are what I will play most. This put the nail in the coffin for me. I'm going with the 350M as the screen ratio throws me off. Thanks for the review, it helped me pick one.
@@markus7166 Super Nintendo RPG's: Rudras treasure (Get a Patched Rom) Lufia 1&2, Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy 4, 5 and 6, Secret of Mana, Paladins Quest, Illusion Of Gaia, Soul Blazer, Breath of Fire 1&2
@@markus7166 Play Station RPGs: Breath of fire 3&4, Xenogears, Tales of Destinry, Final Fantasy Tactics, Suikoden 1 and 2, Lunar both games, Alundra, Star Ocean to name a few
@@Supayone hell yeah bro, it looks like we have the same taste in games, so I’ll definitely check out the ones I haven’t played yet. Appreciate you bro 👌
Good comparison video! I actually ended up getting all three of those though I had decided against the RG351P...funny thing is once I got it the 351P became my favorite quickly. I kept telling myself since I decided against a new PS5 and XBOX this year that I might as well get the retro handhelds for my husband and I.
*From Brazil:* Thank you very much for such wonderful well crafted work - you can't imagine how important tu us from Brazil your reviews are, caz usually we have one shot when buying overseas
Fantastic review. I’ve been mucking around with retro handhelds for years and always wished their was someone providing this type of concise, useful review. The amount of effort you’re putting in really shows. Keep it up and all the best man.
The good thing to see this video after seeing the videos about Retro 2 and 2+ is that your impartiality makes you a trustable-ish source about retro gaming.
This is a great overview. I love all these Chinese handhelds. They keep getting better and better. The ideal unit would combine the Anbernics shell and recessed analog sticks with the versatility of the Retroid Pocket 2’s Android operating system and game streaming.
Another great video, Russ! I find myself favoring the RG351P over my other handhelds for the same reason -- streamlined seamless experience that is easily updateable and customizable as well. I usually grab it, or one of my Raspberry Pi powered handhelds so I can jump right in and play.
@@abdelll9737 Check out Russ's RG351P file transfer guide here: retrogamecorps.com/2020/10/13/rg351p-file-transfer-guide/ On which platform / emulator are you attempting to play Mortal Kombat 2?
Dude, you're doing such a great job with these videos. All of them have been insightful, detailed and really well presented as a whole. I have just decided to pick up a RG351P as my christmas gift for myself! Thanks a bunch and cheers from Brazil :)
Ah I love your long videos, what a treat. But yeah, you changed my mind about buying the RP2, and I still thank you for that. I don't think it's a bad device, but you made me realize some things that I would hate to do on my own. Android doesn't scare me because I use it daily and I love tinkering my devices, but there are two aspects that I really value, which is the screen and a good d-pad. So, considering the devices on the market right now, I went with Anbernic's middle child. RP2 was a very promising device, and still is great , but it's not for everyone, especially for those who want pick and play devices and for the picky old folks in the community. And I think the RP team will learn a lot from this experience and will be more prepared for their next launch. I believe the RG351p is what the RG350 was, the beginning of something revolutionary. They already have a friendly software and better hardware, and maybe now with the RG351M they also put a better screen on the M-model. Fingers crossed! But one thing is for sure, their next line of devices is going to be crazy! Btw, congrats on the 4k! ;)
@@erikd6124 For a M model, metal is a must, but a better screen is just an assumption based on the previous device. Wishful thinking basically, we don't know the specs.
Thank you! You're the first person to say they like my long videos, I always feel it's presumptuous of me to ask that much of people's time :). I'd like to keep my videos to around 10 mins but I can never squeeze everything in!
And here I am still holding out for the perfect handheld, I’m starting to think I’m just to picky. But I’d rather buy a near perfect system that I’m going to keep for the long rather than buy one of these practically disposable handhelds. Maybe I should just get a a Vita again. Thanks for the video, good info.
Since the start of quarantine I've dusted off my old GBAsp and grown my game collection. When I ran into the frustration of wanting to play games that were either very expensive, or impossible to find I turned to the emulator community. For me playing emulators on a PC just isn't the same, I want to be able to hold a console in my hands, and take it on the go. Getting into consoles and emulators with next to no background has been tough, a lot of people assume background knowledge that I just don't have. So I wanted to thank you for making a comprehensive guide and comparison video! I now feel a lot more confident in purchasing a new console, without worry that I'm working with out of date or biased info. As a bit of a beginner mainly interested in playing gba games I'm going to buy the RG351P! Thank you!!
My pleasure! I'm in the same boat - I bought my first retro handheld over the summer, mostly due to quarantine boredom. Happy to share my experience with others, and I'm glad that it was helpful for you!
I have the 350m and just got the 351p. I love how much better psx games run on the 351p, as well as having RetroArch shaders and stuff, it’s lighter in the hand, etc. will keep my 350m for turbografx, snes, and nes games
I'm torn down the middle man. torn!! original Gameboy styled retro pocket 2 sitting in my basket, ready to checkout on their official site and a matching bluetooth controller by 8bitdo sitting in another basket elsewhere. I think my minds made up but why, oh why couldn't it have had that glorious menu the RG351P has! I trained as a Graphic Designer and if you had said to me 20 years ago that oneday we would have gaming devices that played the majority of games for most consoles ever made, that's how I would have envisioned the presentation of the selection menu.
I like that the Retroid Pocket 2 (and 2+) feels like a "toy". It reminds me of the Game Boy, like you said. Which I love. I bought the "Retro" colored Pocket 2+ specifically for that nostalgia since it adopts the original DMG Game Boy's colors, and the fact that the plastic reminds me of an old Game Boy, is perfectly fine with me. I don't need my handheld to be metal, or textured. I wouldn't MIND if it was, but again, I quite like how the Retroid feels.
You earned a sub just for this video...well done! I came into it looking for the differences between the 350 & 351, but you sold me on the retroid pocket 2. If I'm going to drop $ for a portable emulation system, I want the most options available so I don't have to carry multiple devices around with a lot of duplication between them. Therefore the play store & steam sold it for me. I also find it ironic that the one with the "best" case has the least variety of gaming options.
Wow! I am stunned at how much time you put into explaining everything. I actually shocked I watched the entire thing! I know what I want now, thanks to you! You earned that subscription! Keep up the good work.
Quick question: for the RG351P, what PSP, N64, DS and DC games are the most playable? What are the most advanced games from these systems that the RG351P can play? Any answers would be greatly appreciated!
The overclock function is implemented by the developers in the emulators themselves. Both the 351ELEC and ArkOS developers are aware of it and so I assume they'll be incorporating it in the future as appropriate.
@@RetroGameCorps Thanks for the quick response. I have the ODROID and the RG351P. I love the former but it is fragile, I really enjoy the latter, in part thanks to your guides.
Nice review. The RG351P is possibly a nice result of strong competition from the RP2. RP2 was right for me because I was already using retroarch on my phone and using it didn't require to learn a whole lot about it's workings. 2020 was the first time these devices became nice enough for me to consider one, and while 2021 might be slow because of the pandemic, the next wave of devices might just be the sweet spot for sub-$150 portable emulation devices, and them taking away double duty from my phone as a gaming device would also make it ok for me to look for more budget oriented phone the next time I have to update.
I just ended up getting a rg280m cause I found one for $45 new. It does everything the 350m does and I think the same 320x480 resolution on the smaller tempered glass screen looks even better.
Should of mentioned the Retroid pocket 2 comes in an awesome assortment of color designs. My shipping took about 2 weeks not 2 months so the supply has gotten better. I've had it a few weeks now and overall happy with it, I actually like the second OS you said you didn't, it comes preloaded with 2k+ games and the store to download more. I don't see a difference between downloading a game or having to install one, you mentioned you should use your own copy of a game but 99% of people using these aren't. Thanks for the comparison video.
To be fair, I think he legally HAS to say that you should provide your own games. Most people that make videos about emulation kinda avoids the topic of obtaining roms, or flat out says you should provide your own from your own physical games. Pretty sure that a video can be demonitized if someone openly supports illegally downloading roms. And this goes even more-so for people that are getting free review units to make videos on.
I had a GPD XD and loved it until the screen shorted, and I'm messing around setting up a Retroid Pocket 2 now. I like the form factor of the Retroid but I miss having enough overhead to be able to run all my preferred Retroarch cores with nice shaders rather than sacrificing quality and using 10+ year old speed hacked emulators just get it to run at all in many cases. Wish someone would just make one of these handhelds at a higher price point and quality or even better, a *good* telescopic controller option for my S10 so I can stop trying to get janky obsolete hardware to impress me a decade too late.
Need advice (again) trying to play a racing game in Atomisware on my RG351P and the steering controls don't seem to work, how do I change the controls or get the game to see the 351's controls?
Hi. This video was exactly what I needed to watch. I currently have a retroflag GPI and although the form factor is cute the pi zero seems a bit slow. I think the rg351p is the one for me but how much of an issue is the screen ratio?
I don't think it's that big of a deal. It used to bother me but now I'm used to it. I can play games in either 3:2 or a smaller 4:3 and they're both fine to me. If you want to see more on it, check out my RG351P Deep Dive Review.
Very nice video! I have a 350M and just got the RP2. I would like to play some Dreamcast games but, most of them play poorly on RP2. I hoped the 351P would play better, but watching your video helped clarify me. I will wait until these handhelds improve a little more. And I share the same opinion about the RP2 controls.
I think that's the perfect approach. We need a bit more horsepower before we see smooth performance. I'm just holding out for Dolphin/Gamecube, then I'll *really* be a happy camper :)
The Retroid Pocket 2 is by far the best, especially now with all the changes like touch screen and it cost under 100 compared to the other 2 be over 120.
I think you’re talking about the Retroid Pocket 2+ my guy. But yeah, I would definitely agree with you. The new cpu along with minor adjustments to the controls sets it much above the Anbernic devices.
I’m still torn on which one to buy. I have spent hours researching and still confused. I want to play NES, SNES, Sega, MAME, and N64 mainly. I would also like the ability to add my own ROMS with ease. The 4:3 ratio with the 480p screen has me curious as I don’t know how important that is to the gameplay?? Do I need a 4:3 ratio to avoid the screen being stretched?? I’m ready to pull the trigger on one of these devices. Thanks for any help
Haha, thanks! Definitely a compromise, unfortunately. I've learned to live with the ratio -- hoping the next generation of devices gets all of these things right in one.
My mom likes some of the older arcade games that were around when she was in college, but she never really has free time unless she's going on a trip and stuck in transit for several hours. Most computer-based emulation stuff is too technical for her, but if I could set up the 351P and give her something portable that's easy to use that might just be the ticket. Thanks for the comparison video!
Hi, NetPlay is definitely possible on the RG351P through RetroArch, I tested it with MashTec a couple weeks ago and we were able to play Super Mario Kart and Streets of Rage together from across the world. You'll need to use the same device, RetroArch core, and game file.
I just received the retroid pocket 2 and you're right , it's not ready to play out of the box. And the rg351 is actually what I was looking for. A device with a simple interface and easy to navigate. looks like I have to save some money to order the rg351p.
Great Video! I have a 350m coming in about two days and I can't wait to play some GBA games and try out some other emulators. The perfect device for me would have been 351p metal, better res and that would have been the god device! I noticed I like small displays after using the Super Mario game and watch. I am all about my visuals so I had to choose the 350m over the 351p, was thinking about picking up both to compare but the 350m seems a bit superior over the 351p.
Haha, thanks! I love that it actually functions as a regular watch, as opposed to the Apple Watch, which I had previously (it kept demanding too much of my attention!).
I have one in the yellow sunburst color. It's so great having a watch that has a good battery life, but still gives me the information I want. Great for longer backpacking trips where I can't charge it for a while.
For me, the ps vita is king (that is if you can find a cheap one). It has flawless ps1 and PSP emulation, retroarch, a powerful homebrew community, a wealth of ports, is easy to jailbreak and has quite a few must-play exclusives. Not to mention the fact that there's a hack that allows you to stream video and audio to a computer. add that with the ability to plug in ps4 and even Xbox controllers (with some tinkering) and you basically have a mini Nintendo switch I got mine last summer and am extremely happy with it. definitely would consider it a frontrunner in any retro handhelds tier list.
Well this has answered so much. I've been narrowing down for weeks and was going to go with the 350p but then spotted the 351p and it just added more questions. I only have one question which I don't remember seeing in your video. When it comes to eventually updating the 351P, is there an app available on Windows to install any updates. Or will it be a case of downloading new firmware and transferring it across?
I put ArkOS on my 351P (super simple process but you need a computer) and it has the option of OTA updates. I believe the stock firmware has to be updated via dropping files onto the SD card. Anbernic has the files on their Discord.
Great comparison for those handhelds. I have an RP2 and I love it ! I do have to say one thing the delivery time has got better as Retroid are now shipping the devices a lot quicker. Their shipping dates are updated more frequently so the delivery time has shortened. Mine took 6 weeks and that was only due to the chip shortage that affected China. Retroid must be ok now as they are shipping more frequently.
That's good to hear. I have heard some horror stories even recently, but it's nice that they are getting better. They're in a tough spot between chip suppliers and customer expectations, so I don't fault them for struggling to keep up. It's a good problem to have!
Great videos. I have a PoketGo V1 but the reset button will not work anymore. I opened it up and everything seems fine. Any ideas? The problem is when I'm playing a game I can no longer leave the game to go to the system interface. Perhaps there is another way do this without using the reset button? Thanks for all your help!!
Hi, unfortunately I don't have a PocketGo so I'm not sure how to help with its interface. I would recommend you try the Retro Game Handhelds discord, they have a channel for that device and can probably help you out. Here is the link: discord.com/invite/SHq4ssp
How the retro gaming scene works: Step one: Spend 1000 hours researching, comparing, purchasing, tweaking and messing around with the hardware. Step 2: Spend 10 hours playing the games.
It really is. By the time you make everything work, you're sick and tired that you just try everything out if they work lol. But personally, the tweaking and messing around is 90% of the fun.
@@raindrainxi Isn't it though? I love playing around with the systems. Sometimes I wish I spent more time on the games, but that's only half the fun.
10 hours? i'm impressed, personally I spend 1000 hours setting them up then maybe 2 minutes checking each game works perfectly then the device goes in a drawer never to be seen again.
Yup.
I felt this comment in my soul. I just got my RG280v, and I still keep watching these videos.
Whoa. Your diagram game is ON POINT. That deserves a subscription.
My man trying to play on 2 consoles at once for the comparison, respect.
Haha, the sacrifices I make in the pursuit of art :)
Getting myself back into the handheld scene after a long time and this was helpful. I'm really enjoying your videos!
Glad to help!
I am just going to state this....I have been looking for a channel that FINALLY has a color "wheel" comparison chart so I can finally fully see the actual nuances. THANK YOU!!! Please do not change this format!!
He changed it. 😅😅😅
You are the best reviewer I have ever found. Lots of love goes out to you. You are very helpfully and informative
Thank you so much 🙂
@@RetroGameCorps weird emoji choice
What other reviewer uses Venn diagram as part of his review methodology? Bloody brilliant if you ask me.
His studio setup is nice also.
Seriously, this is the best review for anything...ever lol
Excellent work. You can't ask for a better guide on these things
Much appreciated!
One of the best TH-cam stumbles ever for me. Very well spoken and a very in depth and informative review. My problem: I'm torn which one to buy!
So, we have to choose between the RG350M with perfect aluminium case, perfect sticks, perfect screen but not enough powerful ; the RG351P with good plastic case, perfect sticks, enough powerful but shitty screen and the retroid pocket 2 with shitty plastic, shitty sticks but enough powerful and perfect screen. Waiting for a retroid pocket 3, a RG351M or something else seems the best choice. ;)
You know what ? I love you guys to have had the patience to have tested all of these stuffs.
RG351M is already out, but still 320*480
This is exactly my problem. Why can't one of these devices just give us everything we want?
@@aidemalo So... I just have to wait for a hypothetical RG352M with metal case, perfect sticks, enough power and a 480x640 screen. XD
@@PestusKrokenstein sadly yes. I'm on the edge of getting the retroid pocket 2 and rg350m
You're right! Personally I'll get used to the "shitty" controls for the full array of systems lol!
This comparison was excellent. You explained the pros and cons of each very well and it made it really easy to narrow it down to whats best for me. Keep it up.
33:10
"You're gonna spend the majority of your time going through the user interface"
That's a big mood because I never play the games
I really appreciate you take a second or two breather between sections. Really makes the content more pleasant, and shows the thought went into it.
Thanks so much for the video!
I'm DYINGG for Anbernic to release a 351p with a 640x480 display.
Haha, you and me both!
I keep checking this channel and all the sites Russ frequents to see when an RG351* with 4:3 gets released! lol
I'd say they're saving that for a metal 351M if they continue the model trend
@@linnyunt metal with the display upgrade, insane
I concur with you and comments below metal version with bigger 4:3 screen.
I liked seeing the comparisons, pros and cons of each system, as I was considering all 3 of them at one point. I went with the 351P because I liked the layout of the controls, and I do also like that it uses the Emulation Station interface. I don't really care about playing the high end stuff too much, I mostly wanted something to play the old school handheld games on (GB, Game Gear, etc) so I dug the fact that it had a color that matched my original GBA too :)
That's a good point, people love that purple RG351P! Personally, the white analog sticks vs gray buttons drive me crazy, so I haven't bought one :)
@@RetroGameCorps does retroid pocket 2 support diablo 2?
You saved me hours of research and I could get straight to buying and having endorphine kicks :D
Haha, awesome!
Wow, I'm stunned at how comprehensive this review was. Way to kickass mate!
Much appreciated!
Honestly, you are the best retro handheld reviewer out there, you really nail down the little details which are so important to the fan scene. Really looking forward to future content and you will be my go-to TH-cam channel on the subject from henceforth!
Wow, thanks so much!
Instantly subscribed. Very well explained through visuals, charts and numbers. I can't believe I didn't find this channel until now.
Congratulations, great review, you speak about all the aspects, nice and clear.
I appreciate that!
I was pretty overwhelmed by the amount of discussion about these devices, the differences, the similarities. And you made it so simple, thank you for this, gonna go with your judgment and start with the 351P. THANK YOU for taking so much time to help folks out on this
Glad I could help!
@@RetroGameCorps you got me back on board with the retro games, I haven't owned or played a game since PS2, but was missing NES, snes side scroller fun and your help guided me to a affordable system that is great. I wish I had 2 more hands so I could give 4 thumbs up
Ive actually run goldeneye just with sound off if feels fine, sound on, garbage. Kinda sad as the music is a big part of it but I couldn't notice the slow down visually
Killed it again, Russ. Really appreciate your dedication! Always look for your videos first when I log onto TH-cam
Thanks for saying that, Nik!
I just learned about these hand held emulators from another one of your videos, now I feel like a kid in a candy store researching one to get.
Same
Super solid reviews man. Just now getting into retro handhelds and you've made narrowing down my choice so so simple. Really appreciate you putting in so much effort for this video. It really helps people like me who get overwhelmed by choices. Keep it up.
Thanks for watching!
I've been researching and when it comes down to it? Ps1 and SNES RPGs are what I will play most. This put the nail in the coffin for me. I'm going with the 350M as the screen ratio throws me off. Thanks for the review, it helped me pick one.
Do you have any RPGs in particular that you recommend? I'm a huge RPG fan and I'd really appreciate any good recommendations you may have
@@markus7166 Super Nintendo RPG's: Rudras treasure (Get a Patched Rom) Lufia 1&2, Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy 4, 5 and 6, Secret of Mana, Paladins Quest, Illusion Of Gaia, Soul Blazer, Breath of Fire 1&2
@@markus7166 Play Station RPGs: Breath of fire 3&4, Xenogears, Tales of Destinry, Final Fantasy Tactics, Suikoden 1 and 2, Lunar both games, Alundra, Star Ocean to name a few
@@Supayone hell yeah bro, it looks like we have the same taste in games, so I’ll definitely check out the ones I haven’t played yet. Appreciate you bro 👌
Best review between these consoles I have seen/could find and the one I am most interested in wasn't even on my radar. Thanks for the video!
My pleasure, enjoy!
I just purchased an RG351P, pretty stoked. Imma go over all of your guides.
Good comparison video! I actually ended up getting all three of those though I had decided against the RG351P...funny thing is once I got it the 351P became my favorite quickly. I kept telling myself since I decided against a new PS5 and XBOX this year that I might as well get the retro handhelds for my husband and I.
*From Brazil:* Thank you very much for such wonderful well crafted work - you can't imagine how important tu us from Brazil your reviews are, caz usually we have one shot when buying overseas
Fantastic review. I’ve been mucking around with retro handhelds for years and always wished their was someone providing this type of concise, useful review. The amount of effort you’re putting in really shows. Keep it up and all the best man.
Thank you so much! It is a lot of work, but I love reading comments like this to know that it's worth it :)
The good thing to see this video after seeing the videos about Retro 2 and 2+ is that your impartiality makes you a trustable-ish source about retro gaming.
This is a great overview. I love all these Chinese handhelds. They keep getting better and better.
The ideal unit would combine the Anbernics shell and recessed analog sticks with the versatility of the Retroid Pocket 2’s Android operating system and game streaming.
Another great video, Russ! I find myself favoring the RG351P over my other handhelds for the same reason -- streamlined seamless experience that is easily updateable and customizable as well. I usually grab it, or one of my Raspberry Pi powered handhelds so I can jump right in and play.
How do you add games? And is mortal kombat 2 playable on your device? Cause I experience slowdown.
@@abdelll9737 Check out Russ's RG351P file transfer guide here: retrogamecorps.com/2020/10/13/rg351p-file-transfer-guide/
On which platform / emulator are you attempting to play Mortal Kombat 2?
Dude, you're doing such a great job with these videos. All of them have been insightful, detailed and really well presented as a whole. I have just decided to pick up a RG351P as my christmas gift for myself! Thanks a bunch and cheers from Brazil :)
Thanks so much! You're going to love the RG351P :)
Ah I love your long videos, what a treat.
But yeah, you changed my mind about buying the RP2, and I still thank you for that. I don't think it's a bad device, but you made me realize some things that I would hate to do on my own. Android doesn't scare me because I use it daily and I love tinkering my devices, but there are two aspects that I really value, which is the screen and a good d-pad.
So, considering the devices on the market right now, I went with Anbernic's middle child.
RP2 was a very promising device, and still is great , but it's not for everyone, especially for those who want pick and play devices and for the picky old folks in the community.
And I think the RP team will learn a lot from this experience and will be more prepared for their next launch.
I believe the RG351p is what the RG350 was, the beginning of something revolutionary. They already have a friendly software and better hardware, and maybe now with the RG351M they also put a better screen on the M-model. Fingers crossed!
But one thing is for sure, their next line of devices is going to be crazy!
Btw, congrats on the 4k! ;)
Will there be a rg351m?
@@erikd6124 The rumors are strong :D
@@xl_9 and it might have a 4;3 640 screen? Or just a metal body and the rest remains the same?
@@erikd6124 For a M model, metal is a must, but a better screen is just an assumption based on the previous device. Wishful thinking basically, we don't know the specs.
Thank you! You're the first person to say they like my long videos, I always feel it's presumptuous of me to ask that much of people's time :). I'd like to keep my videos to around 10 mins but I can never squeeze everything in!
And here I am still holding out for the perfect handheld, I’m starting to think I’m just to picky. But I’d rather buy a near perfect system that I’m going to keep for the long rather than buy one of these practically disposable handhelds. Maybe I should just get a a Vita again. Thanks for the video, good info.
Can the Vita play Gamecube, PS2 and Wii? Can any handheld play PS3?
Unless you're going for a steamdeck style device you'll have to settle for streaming those emus.
Really excellent video. Alot of care and generosity in your summary and presentation of the relevant information.
Subscribed! Thanks for the effort in coming out with these videos. 👌🏼
Welcome!
Since the start of quarantine I've dusted off my old GBAsp and grown my game collection. When I ran into the frustration of wanting to play games that were either very expensive, or impossible to find I turned to the emulator community. For me playing emulators on a PC just isn't the same, I want to be able to hold a console in my hands, and take it on the go.
Getting into consoles and emulators with next to no background has been tough, a lot of people assume background knowledge that I just don't have. So I wanted to thank you for making a comprehensive guide and comparison video! I now feel a lot more confident in purchasing a new console, without worry that I'm working with out of date or biased info.
As a bit of a beginner mainly interested in playing gba games I'm going to buy the RG351P!
Thank you!!
My pleasure! I'm in the same boat - I bought my first retro handheld over the summer, mostly due to quarantine boredom. Happy to share my experience with others, and I'm glad that it was helpful for you!
I have the 350m and just got the 351p. I love how much better psx games run on the 351p, as well as having RetroArch shaders and stuff, it’s lighter in the hand, etc. will keep my 350m for turbografx, snes, and nes games
Thanks for giving me all the info I need to go for a 351P… and I’ll be upgrading the battery asap
I'm torn down the middle man. torn!! original Gameboy styled retro pocket 2 sitting in my basket, ready to checkout on their official site and a matching bluetooth controller by 8bitdo sitting in another basket elsewhere. I think my minds made up but why, oh why couldn't it have had that glorious menu the RG351P has! I trained as a Graphic Designer and if you had said to me 20 years ago that oneday we would have gaming devices that played the majority of games for most consoles ever made, that's how I would have envisioned the presentation of the selection menu.
I just want one that can play Paper Mario and Banjo Tooie well.
Is that too much to ask??
Haha, I think you're better off waiting until the next generation!
Paper Mario seems to work well on the RP2.
The banjos... not so much.
Check out powkiddy x18 or x15.
Don't ever get a powkiddy!!!!!
I like that the Retroid Pocket 2 (and 2+) feels like a "toy". It reminds me of the Game Boy, like you said. Which I love. I bought the "Retro" colored Pocket 2+ specifically for that nostalgia since it adopts the original DMG Game Boy's colors, and the fact that the plastic reminds me of an old Game Boy, is perfectly fine with me. I don't need my handheld to be metal, or textured. I wouldn't MIND if it was, but again, I quite like how the Retroid feels.
Excellent, easy-to-follow, info & review, thank you.
My pleasure!
yo this was really well done, good job bro and thank you
Thanks for watching!
You earned a sub just for this video...well done! I came into it looking for the differences between the 350 & 351, but you sold me on the retroid pocket 2. If I'm going to drop $ for a portable emulation system, I want the most options available so I don't have to carry multiple devices around with a lot of duplication between them. Therefore the play store & steam sold it for me. I also find it ironic that the one with the "best" case has the least variety of gaming options.
Wow! I am stunned at how much time you put into explaining everything. I actually shocked I watched the entire thing! I know what I want now, thanks to you! You earned that subscription! Keep up the good work.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Quick question: for the RG351P, what PSP, N64, DS and DC games are the most playable? What are the most advanced games from these systems that the RG351P can play? Any answers would be greatly appreciated!
In my case and for PSP, i play Persona 3 Portable, Megaman X Hunter, Valkyrie C. II and anything in 2D with no major issues
Also breath of fire 3 run at full speed without frameskipping, a lot of rpg from psp running very well on rg351p
Thank you for the video. Where can I find a procedure to overclock the RG351P? Cheers.
The overclock function is implemented by the developers in the emulators themselves. Both the 351ELEC and ArkOS developers are aware of it and so I assume they'll be incorporating it in the future as appropriate.
@@RetroGameCorps Thanks for the quick response. I have the ODROID and the RG351P. I love the former but it is fragile, I really enjoy the latter, in part thanks to your guides.
Keep this level of quality up and you'll be raking in the subscribers over the next few months
I appreciate that! It's taking me longer and longer to put these videos together but I'm having a lot fo fun along the way :)
Very informative video and helped me to choose the rg351p over the rp2.
Glad I could help!
just watch more rp2 vidéos ;-)
Nice review. The RG351P is possibly a nice result of strong competition from the RP2. RP2 was right for me because I was already using retroarch on my phone and using it didn't require to learn a whole lot about it's workings. 2020 was the first time these devices became nice enough for me to consider one, and while 2021 might be slow because of the pandemic, the next wave of devices might just be the sweet spot for sub-$150 portable emulation devices, and them taking away double duty from my phone as a gaming device would also make it ok for me to look for more budget oriented phone the next time I have to update.
Great comparison review. The obvious conclusion is to wait for something better to arrive that isn't flawed in at least one major way.
A prudent choice!
I just ended up getting a rg280m cause I found one for $45 new.
It does everything the 350m does and I think the same 320x480 resolution on the smaller tempered glass screen looks even better.
Should of mentioned the Retroid pocket 2 comes in an awesome assortment of color designs. My shipping took about 2 weeks not 2 months so the supply has gotten better. I've had it a few weeks now and overall happy with it, I actually like the second OS you said you didn't, it comes preloaded with 2k+ games and the store to download more. I don't see a difference between downloading a game or having to install one, you mentioned you should use your own copy of a game but 99% of people using these aren't. Thanks for the comparison video.
To be fair, I think he legally HAS to say that you should provide your own games. Most people that make videos about emulation kinda avoids the topic of obtaining roms, or flat out says you should provide your own from your own physical games.
Pretty sure that a video can be demonitized if someone openly supports illegally downloading roms.
And this goes even more-so for people that are getting free review units to make videos on.
GPD XD Plus for me. Returned the 350M and loving this much more
It definitely has a good amount of processing power, but that form factor is a little off-putting to me. Is it comfortable to hold?
No issues for me, same feeling as the 3DS
Not really worth saying, it also costs over twice the price so they are not competing products.
I had a GPD XD and loved it until the screen shorted, and I'm messing around setting up a Retroid Pocket 2 now. I like the form factor of the Retroid but I miss having enough overhead to be able to run all my preferred Retroarch cores with nice shaders rather than sacrificing quality and using 10+ year old speed hacked emulators just get it to run at all in many cases. Wish someone would just make one of these handhelds at a higher price point and quality or even better, a *good* telescopic controller option for my S10 so I can stop trying to get janky obsolete hardware to impress me a decade too late.
Nice comparisons! Very thorough.
Glad it was helpful!
I can tell I have seen all your videos and I would love to buy a handheld designed by you dude!!
This was a great review/comparison of these systems.
Awesome comparison! Just what I was looking for, many thanks! Absolutely recommendable
Glad it was helpful!
Need advice (again)
trying to play a racing game in Atomisware on my RG351P and the steering controls don't seem to work, how do I change the controls or get the game to see the 351's controls?
This was the video that made me decide on getting the RG351M :)
Excellent breakdown of the three consoles, you didn't leave any aspect untouched.
Hi. This video was exactly what I needed to watch. I currently have a retroflag GPI and although the form factor is cute the pi zero seems a bit slow.
I think the rg351p is the one for me but how much of an issue is the screen ratio?
I don't think it's that big of a deal. It used to bother me but now I'm used to it. I can play games in either 3:2 or a smaller 4:3 and they're both fine to me. If you want to see more on it, check out my RG351P Deep Dive Review.
the colour of that retroid pocket 2 is mesmerizing
Haha, I agree. When I ordered there were only a few options (yellow, blue, and pink), but even now with new colors available I still prefer my yellow!
Wonderful review. Thank you for all the info and breakdowns, subscription Earned!
Thanks for coming along!
Thanks to your video, I can finally make my decision on which of these consoles to buy. I will go with your favorite, RG351P.
Very nice video! I have a 350M and just got the RP2. I would like to play some Dreamcast games but, most of them play poorly on RP2. I hoped the 351P would play better, but watching your video helped clarify me. I will wait until these handhelds improve a little more. And I share the same opinion about the RP2 controls.
I think that's the perfect approach. We need a bit more horsepower before we see smooth performance. I'm just holding out for Dolphin/Gamecube, then I'll *really* be a happy camper :)
The Retroid Pocket 2 is by far the best, especially now with all the changes like touch screen and it cost under 100 compared to the other 2 be over 120.
I think you’re talking about the Retroid Pocket 2+ my guy. But yeah, I would definitely agree with you. The new cpu along with minor adjustments to the controls sets it much above the Anbernic devices.
Is there any on-device file management on the 350m or the 351p? Can you delete the roms you don't have physical copies of on the device?
I’m still torn on which one to buy. I have spent hours researching and still confused. I want to play NES, SNES, Sega, MAME, and N64 mainly. I would also like the ability to add my own ROMS with ease. The 4:3 ratio with the 480p screen has me curious as I don’t know how important that is to the gameplay?? Do I need a 4:3 ratio to avoid the screen being stretched?? I’m ready to pull the trigger on one of these devices. Thanks for any help
great analysis an comparison good job! Subscribed
Welcome aboard!
So seeing that this video was a year ago, can you do a recent video to your 3 favorites and why? Thanks
I'd love to see a modded new 3ds / 2dsxl thrown into the mix for your comparisons as that is an extremely good handheld for emulation etc.
I gotta give this a subscribe. Very in-depth
Thanks for joining the team!
Really helped. Subscribed. Thanks!
Thanks for the sub!
Great video, very good observations. Well informed and presented. 👌🏻 subbed.
Welcome aboard!
Great video man. You're all over Reddit too. I have the RP2 and RG351M but I want an RG351P super bad. Only thing is the 3:2 ratio!
Haha, thanks! Definitely a compromise, unfortunately. I've learned to live with the ratio -- hoping the next generation of devices gets all of these things right in one.
Great video! I've bought my rp2 on sep 8th, and still waiting T.T
Oh man, sorry to hear that. That is a loooong wait!
Wow. That’s longer than it took for me. I’m in South Africa. Ordered mid September and got it mid November
You’ve found another subscriber. Great job on the videos.
Welcome aboard!
My mom likes some of the older arcade games that were around when she was in college, but she never really has free time unless she's going on a trip and stuck in transit for several hours. Most computer-based emulation stuff is too technical for her, but if I could set up the 351P and give her something portable that's easy to use that might just be the ticket. Thanks for the comparison video!
I have one word for your comparison and it is comprehensive.
Haha, thank you!
Great comparison video.
Thanks!
One question. What about netplay / coop between the devices? I have an RG351P and want to get another for that.
Hi, NetPlay is definitely possible on the RG351P through RetroArch, I tested it with MashTec a couple weeks ago and we were able to play Super Mario Kart and Streets of Rage together from across the world. You'll need to use the same device, RetroArch core, and game file.
I just received the retroid pocket 2 and you're right , it's not ready to play out of the box.
And the rg351 is actually what I was looking for. A device with a simple interface and easy to navigate.
looks like I have to save some money to order the rg351p.
What’s the Mario game playing in the RG350M during 27:00?
Mario Rpg, the OG paper mario, great game!
One of my all-time favorite SNES games :)
Maybe a bit late to respond to the video, but is it possible to play Contra, Battle City, TMNT Tournament Fighters, Mario, etc... on the RG351P?
Thanks for this!! Awesome video.
My pleasure!
Wow, thank you for such a thorough and thoughtful comparison.
My pleasure!
What about powkiddy x15 and x18? They're also like $100 and more powerful than all 3, and actually have a touch screen.
great job with this comparison. earned a sub
Great Video! I have a 350m coming in about two days and I can't wait to play some GBA games and try out some other emulators. The perfect device for me would have been 351p metal, better res and that would have been the god device! I noticed I like small displays after using the Super Mario game and watch. I am all about my visuals so I had to choose the 350m over the 351p, was thinking about picking up both to compare but the 350m seems a bit superior over the 351p.
does the 350m do NDS and PSP?
Thank you for all the videos. Also as a Garmin employee and fellow Instinct owner, Nice watch! lol
Haha, thanks! I love that it actually functions as a regular watch, as opposed to the Apple Watch, which I had previously (it kept demanding too much of my attention!).
I have one in the yellow sunburst color.
It's so great having a watch that has a good battery life, but still gives me the information I want.
Great for longer backpacking trips where I can't charge it for a while.
For me, the ps vita is king (that is if you can find a cheap one). It has flawless ps1 and PSP emulation, retroarch, a powerful homebrew community, a wealth of ports, is easy to jailbreak and has quite a few must-play exclusives.
Not to mention the fact that there's a hack that allows you to stream video and audio to a computer. add that with the ability to plug in ps4 and even Xbox controllers (with some tinkering) and you basically have a mini Nintendo switch
I got mine last summer and am extremely happy with it. definitely would consider it a frontrunner in any retro handhelds tier list.
Incredible video with full of information, thanks! In my opinion, the best handheld gaming console has not been released yet :D
Great full coverage sir. You’re awesome!
Thank you kindly!
Well this has answered so much. I've been narrowing down for weeks and was going to go with the 350p but then spotted the 351p and it just added more questions.
I only have one question which I don't remember seeing in your video. When it comes to eventually updating the 351P, is there an app available on Windows to install any updates. Or will it be a case of downloading new firmware and transferring it across?
I put ArkOS on my 351P (super simple process but you need a computer) and it has the option of OTA updates. I believe the stock firmware has to be updated via dropping files onto the SD card. Anbernic has the files on their Discord.
Great comparison for those handhelds. I have an RP2 and I love it ! I do have to say one thing the delivery time has got better as Retroid are now shipping the devices a lot quicker. Their shipping dates are updated more frequently so the delivery time has shortened. Mine took 6 weeks and that was only due to the chip shortage that affected China. Retroid must be ok now as they are shipping more frequently.
That's good to hear. I have heard some horror stories even recently, but it's nice that they are getting better. They're in a tough spot between chip suppliers and customer expectations, so I don't fault them for struggling to keep up. It's a good problem to have!
Excellent review, thank you. I will try to play Manx TT Superbike on Sega Saturn when my RG351P arrives ⭐️
Great videos. I have a PoketGo V1 but the reset button will not work anymore. I opened it up and everything seems fine. Any ideas? The problem is when I'm playing a game I can no longer leave the game to go to the system interface. Perhaps there is another way do this without using the reset button? Thanks for all your help!!
Hi, unfortunately I don't have a PocketGo so I'm not sure how to help with its interface. I would recommend you try the Retro Game Handhelds discord, they have a channel for that device and can probably help you out. Here is the link: discord.com/invite/SHq4ssp