Why Was Patrick Mahomes NOT The #1 Draft Pick?

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  • We attempt to understand why on earth did so many teams pass on selecting the elite QB, Patrick Mahomes, in the 2017 NFL Draft.
    Who were the teams that passed on taking Patrick Mahomes?
    What was the logic in the front offices? What did they not see in who can be the next great quarterback that can proceed the GOAT himself, Tom Brady?
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  • @brandoncomer6492
    @brandoncomer6492 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    Lets be real. Most of the armchair analyst “experts” thought the chiefs were reaching for Mahomes at 10

    • @thehalftimeshow
      @thehalftimeshow  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Solid point.

    • @cellgame9
      @cellgame9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He also went to TT not exactly a blue chip school. Plus the Big XII is a very week conference defensively so the biases were not in his favor.

    • @poindextertunes
      @poindextertunes ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@cellgame9 and no one thought his style of play would translate well to the nfl.
      surprise muthafxckahs

    • @tudyvaldez4014
      @tudyvaldez4014 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Im the only person i know that thought he should be nunber 1 overall.

    • @Klinginsmithj
      @Klinginsmithj 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’m one of those people. I was upset that we didn’t pick Watson. Dodged that bullet.

  • @joevorachack3791
    @joevorachack3791 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    Every team passed up on Kurt Warner and Tom Brady. It is not an exact science. As a Chief fan, Thank you Buffalo!

    • @court5231
      @court5231 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ❤️💛

    • @bluepyrotech
      @bluepyrotech ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And Rodgers and brees

    • @johnharris6655
      @johnharris6655 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      2 teams dumped Jim Plunkett.

    • @joshpisarek6948
      @joshpisarek6948 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Your welcome for are 1st.

    • @msp5138
      @msp5138 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In over 100 years of NFL football, you can only come up with 2 names?🤣😂🤣

  • @logisticalnonsense
    @logisticalnonsense ปีที่แล้ว +74

    Trading with the Bills of all teams to get Mahomes so ironic! Never knew thats how it went down😂

    • @jayB733
      @jayB733 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd say it worked out well with us too tho we got tre white later and Allen with there first pick the next year

    • @logisticalnonsense
      @logisticalnonsense ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@jayB733 Ya worked out real great. Bills get those 2 guys and chiefs get 2 superbowls championships / the best player in the league

    • @CharlieRogers50
      @CharlieRogers50 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You never knew that because... you weren't old enough to care about the 2017 draft?

    • @logisticalnonsense
      @logisticalnonsense 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CharlieRogers50 i just didnt follow the draft that close back then. I didnt use to watch college football so i had no idea who anyone was and the picks were irrelevant to me. But now i watch it all

    • @nomarxistspls90
      @nomarxistspls90 หลายเดือนก่อน

      3 superbowls now :)@@logisticalnonsense

  • @richardlong7075
    @richardlong7075 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    He actually didn’t play his senior season at Texas Tech. He entered draft early.

  • @Mik3yLow
    @Mik3yLow ปีที่แล้ว +21

    The #9 pick, John Ross, is now on our team too 😂

  • @shaunzaarrae3727
    @shaunzaarrae3727 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    30 nfl teams would be willing to trade their next 10 first round picks for Mahomes

  • @carol-us4xn
    @carol-us4xn ปีที่แล้ว +21

    The teams that passed on him is still looking from the sidelines in awe. Never judge a nook by its cover. Now that they have witnessed the Mahomes factor, it changes everything.

  • @marshalltaylor5780
    @marshalltaylor5780 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    As a sooner fan I always dreaded going up against Texas tech! The team that usually won the game had at least one defensive stop. But as a life long chiefs fan I freaking love this guy!!

    • @TheRealcdawg22
      @TheRealcdawg22 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm sure you remember the shootout between Mahomes and Baker Mayfield in 2016. 125 points, What a game! I'm from OKC, lifetime Chiefs fan.

  • @tuckerkline4142
    @tuckerkline4142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Imagine Mahomes with a Chicago good defense in the cold with that rocket arm. Would’ve been best nfl team

  • @graceresendes5380
    @graceresendes5380 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Man my life will never be the same

  • @nopeteys2424
    @nopeteys2424 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    9:45 that throw still blows my mind every time i see it. Literally parallel to the ground and he throws it on a rope just above the outstretched finger tips of Devin White and it hits Darell Williams in the face mask. If Williams caught it that would be the greatest TD pass ever thrown i think, at least one of them.

    • @thehalftimeshow
      @thehalftimeshow  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Gotta agree with your take Brendan!

  • @honkerh8r564
    @honkerh8r564 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I'm a Chiefs fan and season ticket holder, and even I wasn't sure Mahomes was ready when he got the starting job. All these teams who passed on him have people on staff who analyze NFL talent and potential for a living, and have done it for decades. Mahomes was very raw and if anyone saw this coming, he would have been an absolute 1st overall pick. But sometimes stars come out of nowhere, and vice versa. So many NFL legends have come from deep in the draft, and so many 1st rounders have been total flops in the NFL. Mahomes might have been one of those flops if he hadn't had the opportunity to develop under Alex Smith. Throw him out there as the starter right away with a shit team, and he may have not been the player he is today.

    • @TheRealcdawg22
      @TheRealcdawg22 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Alex Smith was great for us. He raised the floor of the whole organization. Mahomes is raising the ceiling.

    • @honkerh8r564
      @honkerh8r564 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@TheRealcdawg22 I always said Alex wasn't the problem. He obviously didn't have the arm talent or the ability to improvise Mahomes has, but he had the ability to throw down the field more than they allowed him to. Andy was stuck in that ultra conservative mindset with draws and screens. I think the "game manager" persona was more about the coaching and play calling than Alex's ability as a qb. I think Grbac got more heat in the 90's than he deserved, too. That was Marty ball. Of course, handing the ball to Priest Holmes is a good idea, but Elvis took the blame when the Chiefs couldn't get it done.

    • @thehalftimeshow
      @thehalftimeshow  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That context is absolutely relevant; thank you for contributing that point!

    • @TheRealcdawg22
      @TheRealcdawg22 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Honkerh8r Being a great quarterback takes more than just arm talent. I think Patrick learned all those other things sitting behind a true pro. What further endears Patrick Mahomes to me is that he still credits his development to his time with Alex Smith.

    • @choosecarefully408
      @choosecarefully408 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Funny fact about us humans, males in particular. Multitasking doesn't come naturally to us until somewhere around our 23rd birthday. Until then, the voices screaming in our heads that "you're about to get sacked, _MOVE_ dammit" is too powerful to ignore no matter what any coach says, & while he was put into a game in 2017, Mahomes was born in September '95 & likely that mind-body connection clicked into place & he was ready.
      Peyton Manning is an excellent example of this. While not yet 23, around the mid-way point of his rookie year he simply starts playing like the HOF QB we know even though nothing outside changed. A lot of the bad habits Justin Fields has shown are likely a combo of this & the terrible o-line the Bears have. Zach Wilson literally mentally returns to the friendly memories of the combine.
      More NFL coaches need to be aware of this. Going in before this change takes place can really ruin a QB. I think this has a _LOT_ to do with Sam Darnold's play because he returns to the Bad Habits people build up in their heads when overwhelmed. So NFL games keep repeating the same pressures that caused those habits to form, & even he isn't aware of what he's doing but does it.

  • @bluehorseshoe444
    @bluehorseshoe444 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Saints were waiting for Pat at 11... KC's move was epic

  • @Lancers262
    @Lancers262 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I feel like staff that is in charge of college recruitment have one of the hardest jobs in the NFL. So many teams passed on a lot of talents that became pro bowlers.

  • @TheRussianFloofCat
    @TheRussianFloofCat ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It's easy to say with hindsight that Mahomes should've gotten picked earlier. Its obvious to say now that Mahomes is an amazing player, that's undeniable. But at the time he's seen as a project quarterback, and he was a project quarterback. He had the luxury of sitting behind Alex Smith, another number one overall pick, and learn for a full season. The Chiefs also surrounded him with an great coaching staff to help him develop. I doubt he'd the same caliber of player if he was drafted into a different circumstance.

    • @christian6911
      @christian6911 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He probably wouldn't be as good or as exciting without Andy Reid. The unorthodox style with pat belongs with the unorthodox plays of Andy.

    • @levy3970
      @levy3970 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@christian6911 You guys are idiots,. Name the QB or Coach that developed Marino..unless ur saying Dan is Waaaay more talented to not need developing....You Can't Coach Talent.

    • @tracyjohnson3394
      @tracyjohnson3394 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That could ALSO be said about TB12, who backed Drew Bledsoe in New England, and Aaron Rodgers, who sat 3 YEARS behind Brett Favre @ Green Bay! Seems to be a formula; like Steve Young sitting behind Joe Montana? Patrick is good company! It's not a new thing, at all. Credit those GMs and coaching staff! Mahomes is off to the fastest start of them all, coming into year 6.

    • @randythompson9400
      @randythompson9400 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tracyjohnson3394 He's now coming into year 8. Year 7 as the starting QB.

  • @cousinyak1803
    @cousinyak1803 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That was a damn good half time show. Almost made me understand the draft.

  • @KCocteau15
    @KCocteau15 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Face it , Reid and Veach know how to read between the lines with talent. They saw the diamond in the rocky exterior that every other coaching staff couldn’t. And they have built a HOF team.

    • @thehalftimeshow
      @thehalftimeshow  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You said it right! They are #1 for that reason.

    • @noaharkjr
      @noaharkjr ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Facts

    • @edjimenez7107
      @edjimenez7107 ปีที่แล้ว

      What people don’t realize is that PM went to the right place. Reid always has a great coaching staff. He probably changes a coach once in a while. That’s due because he lets them take other job opportunities if they want. Patrick is talented. But any QB in the right coaching situation will prosper. Look at the jets.
      That’s my team by the way.
      Coaching staff has never been our virtue. Rex was great. Now Saleh. Our owner is an impatient man.
      Even if had drafted Patrick,
      Josh,Lamar that would mean nothing. Reid is a QB 🧙‍♀️.
      Just keeping it real.
      Easy to speak after.
      But PM and coach Reid
      Marriage made in heaven.
      Working for them.

  • @Milanoprodzzz.58
    @Milanoprodzzz.58 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The funny part is that was the bulls pick and a few years later the bulls are one of his rivals

  • @madisenstubbs
    @madisenstubbs ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I think about this all the time... having seen his intangibles on the field at Tech, it shocked me when he didn't go #1 overall.
    but he ain't worried about it 😂🏆🏆💯

    • @kylehill3883
      @kylehill3883 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because in the Big 12 they don't play defense. He didn't play against the top defenses of the SEC or Big 10.

    • @JordanT3025
      @JordanT3025 ปีที่แล้ว

      He was also very raw mechanically and made poor decisions which plunged his stock.

    • @jxshkt
      @jxshkt ปีที่แล้ว

      He wasn’t a #1 overall talent at Tech. He was great, but so is everyone picked high. His development is unmatched sure, but to say you were shocked he didn’t go #1 just means you’re dumb. There were better at the time prospects in the draft above him. Myles Garrett went first, and even tho mahomes better cause of success, you can’t say Myles Garrett shouldn’t have been taken there cause he’s been a stud too

  • @court5231
    @court5231 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video! Thank you for your hard work! 🙂

  • @logisticalnonsense
    @logisticalnonsense ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Y'all are confused. Patrick is the best of the best because his arm can do anything a coach asks him to do. He would have been elite regardless. Individual success would have been there eventually no matter what but i will say i absolutely agree it takes a good system for a team to win multiple superbowls no matter who the players on the team are.

  • @mattmccullough1093
    @mattmccullough1093 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Andy is a football genius. A lot of people didn't understand when he Is drafted Patrick mahomes. But a lot of people don't understand people who are smart.

  • @derekchristeson5486
    @derekchristeson5486 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The reason Mahomes wasn’t the first pick is his mechanics are not traditional and in college he threw a tons of picks. He was viewed as a project QB with a huge upside. Everyone expected him to be a gun slinger which he really hasn’t been. He also has the luxury of not having to start right away for a terrible team like most 1st over all QBs.

    • @goldenageofdinosaurs7192
      @goldenageofdinosaurs7192 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He didn’t throw a ton of picks in college. His int % was actually quite low. That’s why it never made any sense when they called him a gunslinger. It’s like the scouts & talking heads saw his he played & assumed he threw a lot of picks, but no one actually checked the stats to make sure🤣
      That was the kind of mindset that allowed the Chiefs to jump up & get him at 10.

  • @MarkusfromH
    @MarkusfromH 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just looked up the 2017 Draft class. So many future Hall of Famers. Mahomes, Miles Garrett, McCaffrey, Kupp, Kamara, T.J.Watt, Marshawn Lattimore, Kittle. And in addition to the future HOFers you had many more talented players like Budda Baker, Rasul Douglas, Chris Godwin, Tre'Davius White, etc. What a Draft class!!!

  • @godagon97
    @godagon97 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Patrick "The Inevitable" Mahomes. 😤❤️💛❤️💛❤️‍🔥

  • @kylehill3883
    @kylehill3883 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Perfect video. Football fans need to understand the QB isn't everything. Look at Super Bowl 55. No tackles = No Touchdowns = No Ring in 2020. People take Mahomes and other great QBs for granted.

  • @penguinrea0088
    @penguinrea0088 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Keep up your fantastic videos, God has Blessed you all

  • @johnbox271
    @johnbox271 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Teams with poor evaluation skills as it relates to QBs, while Reid, Payton and Arians saw what he was and could be... others had no idea. Cleveland had the first pick, and I don't think there are many that would claim the Browns have had much success in evaluating and drafting QBs in recent memory.

  • @gregjohnson7270
    @gregjohnson7270 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for providing the "backstory" of what happened on all of the selections before the Chiefs took Mahomes at #10. I heard that Bret Veach had been following his career at Texas Tech and liked what he saw and decided getting Mahomes would be the focus of that year's draft and it has paid off way beyond expectations and they're not done yet!

  • @jamescampbell9533
    @jamescampbell9533 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Most teams thought that big 12 qbs played gimmick football. They never had to face tough defenses and would be busts in the League.

  • @its_marcel_
    @its_marcel_ ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The chiefs picking mahomes was an absolute blindside hit for EVERYONE!! Even for chiefs fans!! Not a single chiefs fan can say „I Knew they would pick Patrick mahomes“ it was an absolute bombshell nobody could’ve seen that coming.
    I wasn’t even sure if it would work out. I liked him in college but never ever would I have imagined he would explode like he did in KC.

  • @javimarulu4247
    @javimarulu4247 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Ross now is in KC?

  • @danielle3244
    @danielle3244 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    mahomes on 49ers would be so scary

    • @cowboy7170
      @cowboy7170 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Niners also passed up Cooper Cupp and Christian McCaffrey.

  • @thomasaquinas6628
    @thomasaquinas6628 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mahomes was drafted into an offense that was already sick with talent. Tyreek HIll, Travis Kelce, Kareem Hunt, not to mention Albert Wilson and Demarcus Robinson, OL MItchell Scwartz, Eric Fisher and Laurent Duvernay-Tardif, plus Matt Nagy and Big Red - Reid scripts plays no one else can and makes them work. That 2018 team was amazing, and lost a ticket to the SuperBowl by one foot in the neutral zone.

    • @arnulfoalvarez1743
      @arnulfoalvarez1743 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He played the last regular game against Denver when he was a rookie with the second unit and brought them back to a win in the last minutes.

  • @RogueDemagogue
    @RogueDemagogue ปีที่แล้ว +4

    John Ross is now a Chief, lol.

  • @CHIEFHADOUKEN
    @CHIEFHADOUKEN ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Jon Gruden selected Mahomes, Watson and Trubisky to be Top 10. Mahomes was select @10.

  • @derekrau8236
    @derekrau8236 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I will just never get over the Bears draft that year. Obviously Mitch wasn’t as bad as Jamarcus Russell or Ryan Leaf, but damn did that draft destroy the bears for almost a decade.

  • @davidcrime1555
    @davidcrime1555 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Understand, Patrick is the Goat

  • @raleighsanford5111
    @raleighsanford5111 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    One thing I've learned over the years as a casual observer is that players who have a great JR season out of nowhere then go pro, have a high bust potential when drafted high.
    Of all the teams who passed on Mahomes, SF has to be the most frustrated. Their pick that year was a bust and they lost 2 SBs to Mahomes and the Chiefs. It wasn't just the 10 teams mentioned in the video who passed on him, others could have traded up for him like KC did.
    Here is the thing though, any team with Mahomes would be dominant, some would take longer to get there, but any team would get there. I don't blame anyone because you have to see Mahomes in multiple games to get an idea of just how good he is. Everyone is rewriting history to sound like they always knew. He was lightly recruited coming out of HS and Kingsbury didn't see his potential until an injury to Davis Webb got Mahomes on the field. Even then it took 6 games before Kingsbury saw the potential. That is not the story now, but that is the way it happened.

  • @Bork19
    @Bork19 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I honestly don’t blame teams for missing on pat, he struggled with accuracy/consistency, had poor mechanics, and his team didn’t win in college. Teams value a qb that wins and questions leadership, character and work ethic when they don’t (cutler and Jeff George come to mind)
    The horrible miss in that draft was watson; duel threat qb, all the tools, and an obvious winner (he was successful in Houston with a hc/gm that made his job harder. Him being a terrible human didn’t show itself till later.

    • @arnulfoalvarez1743
      @arnulfoalvarez1743 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      His team didn’t win in college due to their terrible defense, and hardly any support on the offensive side.

  • @kjhgfdsd76654
    @kjhgfdsd76654 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The absurdity of both the Browns and Jets is mind boggling, considering who they had at QB at the time.

    • @thehalftimeshow
      @thehalftimeshow  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Totally!! There was huge favor bestowed on Pat for those teams passing on him.

    • @JordanT3025
      @JordanT3025 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The browns picked Baker that draft with the #1 pick. Which baker won the heisman so it wasn’t absurd to take him at 1.

    • @kjhgfdsd76654
      @kjhgfdsd76654 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JordanT3025 Baker was drafted the following year in 2018. This was 2017

    • @JordanT3025
      @JordanT3025 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kjhgfdsd76654 your right I thought it was the same draft they took Garrett in 2017.

    • @dchenkin02
      @dchenkin02 ปีที่แล้ว

      Myles Garrett has developed into a future hall of famer as a defensive end. Not absurd to take the player least likely to be a bust with the first pick.

  • @wheelhouse15
    @wheelhouse15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When you see these retrospectives It almost seems like scouting and drafting is an inexact science.🤔 This is why I always get a kick out of seeing the analysts rate the draft picks in near real-time, you can never know how a college player will do in the NFL until they actually play in the NFL. I really do think we see a lot more of these QB misses because there seems to be a huge bias towards drafting defensive players these days.

  • @codywaterman3612
    @codywaterman3612 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video

    • @thehalftimeshow
      @thehalftimeshow  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for watching!

  • @Mik3yLow
    @Mik3yLow ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video! New sub 😊

    • @thehalftimeshow
      @thehalftimeshow  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! @Michael D

  • @craigschultz9266
    @craigschultz9266 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The reason is because I wasn't done coaching him to the heights he has risen too at this point in his career!!

  • @timc5943
    @timc5943 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    NINERS NOTE! Niners were bottom of the league in both offense & defense. So drafting a QB with the 2nd pick was risky AND
    Kyle had just come from Washington and the possibility of adding Kirk Cousins on the free-agent market, along with an evaluation of the roster, ultimately steered the 49ers towards Thomas.

    • @thehalftimeshow
      @thehalftimeshow  ปีที่แล้ว

      You must be a 49ers fan? We appreciate that context!

    • @BobectorGamesBobector
      @BobectorGamesBobector ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm not mad we skipped on Mahomes. Sure it sucks missed out on a player of that caliber. But at that time the niners were near bottom of the league. Mahomes would have been thrusted to start right away instead of sitting behind Alex for a year. Who knows if he would be as good without Reid. I'm just glad the niners are a good team even without picking mahomes

  • @tedlee2861
    @tedlee2861 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I jumped for jot that year. We picked him. Was praying he was still on. That board. Roll chiefs. Roll😆🏈👈👍

  • @dog-thebackwardgod
    @dog-thebackwardgod ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You pronounced Kelce correctly! You're the only one, besides me. Nicely done

    • @jenniferaceste8823
      @jenniferaceste8823 ปีที่แล้ว

      Travis himself said it can be pronounced either way.

    • @dog-thebackwardgod
      @dog-thebackwardgod ปีที่แล้ว

      @jennifer aceste AFTER he said the correct pronunciation is "kels". He was trying to be nice.

    • @jenniferaceste8823
      @jenniferaceste8823 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dog-thebackwardgod
      He also talked about his Dad getting calls asking for Ed Kelc-e. I am uniquely familiar with the issue as my last name ends with an e also & people often assume the e is silent which it's not, in my case. Short A-c-short e-st-long e.

    • @dog-thebackwardgod
      @dog-thebackwardgod ปีที่แล้ว

      Damn, I was just trying to pay thr guy a compliment. I'll stfu

    • @jenniferaceste8823
      @jenniferaceste8823 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dog-thebackwardgod Not tryna be mean, doG. Just giving u some perspective that may not have occurred to u is all. #HBTC

  • @Field_Marshall
    @Field_Marshall ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very plain and simple he was a gun slinger at an average university like Texas Tech who was in an offense called the air raid offense. A non pro style offense that didn’t suit the NFL way of being a pro quarterback. And the scouts says air raid quarterbacks will not survive in the NFL.

  • @abirodriguez2347
    @abirodriguez2347 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Anyone know the name of the song or music? It’s so good

  • @niccammell3513
    @niccammell3513 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Anyone know the tune that comes in at 3:10? It's great

  • @glennwashing
    @glennwashing 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Number 1, they didn't recognize GREATNESS. Number 2, they didn't like his mechanics and Texas Gunslinger attitude. Funny how everything they didn't like about Mahomes is what makes him GREAT!!! I LOVE it!!!!

    • @thehalftimeshow
      @thehalftimeshow  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I like it. Thank you for your take Glenn.

  • @mrsatangto
    @mrsatangto ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I doubt that Mahomes would have developed the way he did if he didn't end up under Andy Reid

    • @pazu8728
      @pazu8728 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yep, they will made him to throw the ball "the right way" or force him to be a "system qb" like a machine. We would not see any of the PM magic.

    • @trentlee6823
      @trentlee6823 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@pazu8728 lmfao tf u talking abt mahomes has thrown the same way since college

    • @thehalftimeshow
      @thehalftimeshow  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Pazu - You have a point!

    • @UWalvern0810
      @UWalvern0810 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@pazu8728 I see your point. Other staffs would’ve probably tried to “coach” what makes him unique out of him. These guys tend to fear what they don’t understand/can’t completely control.

    • @choosecarefully408
      @choosecarefully408 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@trentlee6823 Yeah: but look at what the Cardinals are stupidly doing with Kyler Murray. Taking someone unconventional & forcing him to study plays designed for conventional QBs. There are *tons* of egotistical P_and_ inept coaches at the NFL level who are just there to boost their own egos by pushing people around, not working _with_ their players.
      Josh McDaniels, John Gruden, John "I would rather lose games than call effective passing plays" Harbaugh... cripes we even saw Matt Lafleur basically flip off Aaron Rodgers then stare uncomprehendingly down the field where the dimes Rodgers threw were dropped because Lafleur simply kept trying to will *"his* plays" into success.
      Bellichick with Mac Jones, literally hiring Matt Patricia to slow Jones progress because he was exceeding what Bill _wanted him_ to do. There are a _lot_ of coaches who would have tried to change Mahomes just to have something they could claim as theirs.

  • @CharlieRogers50
    @CharlieRogers50 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hindsight is 20/20. He was not a surefire prospect whatsoever, and frankly if he didn't land with the Chiefs he may not have become who he is today. Unprecedented talent met unprecedentedly perfect circumstances.

  • @user-jr1jp3lx4r
    @user-jr1jp3lx4r หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Films showed Patrick to be too unorthodox, unpredictable and while he had good qualities they felt it was a real gamble. One scout bet is career on drafting Patrick and he was right.

  • @ayadali9112
    @ayadali9112 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You may as well ask this about other quarterbacks like Tom Brady himself since he’s in the description of this video.

  • @dmartig1
    @dmartig1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mahomes was inaccurate in college. It helped that he was drafted by the greatest QB guru in the NFL.

  • @darrenchen2668
    @darrenchen2668 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think it was because myles garrett who was selected 1st overall by Cleveland was through to be a generational talent by Cleveland and in the combine you generally don't see no look passes or scrambling ability which is why people like Mahomes, Lamar and Rodgers dropped in the draft

  • @jasonjordan3722
    @jasonjordan3722 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why was Patrick Mahomes not picked first? 2 words: Project QB. That is all you heard from analysts. Then he proceeded to get drafted, and hit the NFL like a defibrillator. As a Chiefs fan, thank you, Brett Veach.
    A lot of picks, teams still hit on, but they weren't PM15, that is for sure. Solomon Thomas, Christian McCaffrey, Jamal Adams and Of course Myles Garrett were not bad pick ups. In fact, that draft class was pretty stacked with talent.

    • @dchenkin02
      @dchenkin02 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mahomes sat his rookie year behind Alex Smith. Chiefs were a final eight team with Alex Smith while Mahomes was being developed.

  • @larrybrown2481
    @larrybrown2481 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yet Brady got all the credit dispite have top 10 defense and came to a good patriots team..anyone remember the team he took over was headed to the playoffs....

  • @jessierodriguez7168
    @jessierodriguez7168 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Teams that passed on him still suck enough said😂😂

    • @skylermiller3333
      @skylermiller3333 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The bengals are easily a top 3 team tho…

  • @javimarulu4247
    @javimarulu4247 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    49s 😂😂😂
    Didnt see him

  • @berighteous
    @berighteous 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Everybody knows why he wasn't #1 - the teams can't predict the future. Brady, Rodgers, Brees, etc were not drafted first, and they're all going to the HOF.

  • @dephiler
    @dephiler 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    And 3 rings later...9 teams are kicking themselves in the ass

  • @flyjah3x_840
    @flyjah3x_840 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Because he was at Texas Tech which didn’t get any attention than Oklahoma where baker transferred from

  • @edthompson2099
    @edthompson2099 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm more of a Chiefs fan than I am a San Fransisco fan, but Brock Purdy, as a true Mr. Irrelevant (Final Pick of the NFL Draft for his year) pushed KC to require a Super Bowl OT and played a damn good game himself. The biggest play of the second half was a KC punt that hit the foot of a SF blocker and was recovered by Kansas City- So not exactly Purdy's fault or Mahome's quarterbacking skill. And thats not to take anything away from Mahomes either, he WAS clutch when he needed to be at the end of the 4th quarter and during KC's OT possession. KC went for, and made, 2 OT 4th downs. San Fransisco kicked a field goal on their OT 4th from inside the KC 10 yard line. And the winning difference was that KC touchdown vs. the San Fran field goal. I don't know how many coaches would NOT kick a field goal to take the lead in an OT, especially when you have (and really DO have) a champion grade defense.

    • @thehalftimeshow
      @thehalftimeshow  23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you for sharing Ed. You should watch our $1m vs $50 million QB video on our channel.

  • @Anthony-yu5yz
    @Anthony-yu5yz 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The other teams gambled and lost. And the Chiefs moved up to draft him.

  • @ralphnyquist7873
    @ralphnyquist7873 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You had me right up to the point that you said.....Mahomes wasn't the only one to get team to SB. I realize like all the rest of these so-called experts.....you had no idea what is going on with the Chiefs.

    • @thehalftimeshow
      @thehalftimeshow  หลายเดือนก่อน

      This year Mahomes single handedly led his team to the SB. He had a lot of help his first two. Andy Reid deserves half the credit as well. Not sure why you’re bothered with an older video.

  • @jonsmith4876
    @jonsmith4876 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    He was good coming out of college but if he went to any other team he would not be as good as he is now Andy Reid has a lot to do with how good he is

    • @thehalftimeshow
      @thehalftimeshow  ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed except there are a few teams that he could have done well with.

  • @asdfjkl5713
    @asdfjkl5713 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love all the post-hoc experts.

  • @norsuist
    @norsuist ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Tbh Patty needed KC, Reid and Alex Smith to flourish
    If he landed on browns or bears etc he would most likely have been talent wasted

    • @thehalftimeshow
      @thehalftimeshow  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Couldn't agree more. Facts.

    • @ninomorales7845
      @ninomorales7845 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It works both ways. Look at the Patriots now. You need a unique talent to be great. Coaches don't play.

    • @norsuist
      @norsuist ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ninomorales7845 yes of course but belichick is a defensive minded hc
      Tom was always having the temper tantrums with the offence playcallers not Belichick
      Reid on the other hand is an offensive genius, just look at the plays he and Bieniemy wrote to mahomes and the offense in the superbowl and other games aswell
      I'd say atleast 40% of Mahomes success is because he landed with the chiefs and Andy Reid
      He was quite a rough prospect and got to the perfect team
      Sorry for the long post

    • @luc-rikardofils6673
      @luc-rikardofils6673 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe I’m too optimistic, but something tells me he would’ve be about as successful in Chicago as he is now. Best predictor would be that the same guy who is his OC now was the Bears head coach then.

    • @choosecarefully408
      @choosecarefully408 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly. If _Shanahan_ was his HC, we'd see 25 TDs at best from Mahomes. No one seems to realize this yet, but 1) Shanahan has a losing record in games not started by Jimmy Garoppolo, & 2) He *_still coaches football_* like he thinks it's hockey: as if his team can't both play defense if they continue playing offense.
      He *always* shuts down all offensive effort in the second half. It's consistent. So *part* of the magic at least is the (unintentionally?) weaker defense in KC.

  • @markcecoash
    @markcecoash ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This dude I can tell… Narrated The Sandlot as Adult Scott Smalls

  • @bertsausse2128
    @bertsausse2128 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can you imagine if Buffalo decided not to make the trade and picked someone else? Mahomes was heading to New Orleans with the next pick and would have been teamed with Sean Payton.

    • @thehalftimeshow
      @thehalftimeshow  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That pairing would've been something special too.

  • @JohnSmith-ls3um
    @JohnSmith-ls3um ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mahomes wouldn’t have made it past 11. Sean Payton said the Saints would have taken him there. Can you imagine Mahomes learning from Payton while sitting behind Drew Brees? Interesting counter factual.

  • @daniellepearsall4978
    @daniellepearsall4978 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How many of these other teams IF they had drafted Mahomes, would have given him a year to study behind a darn good (tho not elite) QB to learn instead of just throwing him to the wolves? He would have been good anyway, but he would not have hit his potential under any of these other teams like he has under Reid and with the year of study behind Alex Smith.

  • @jimakin3541
    @jimakin3541 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    He played for Texas Tech is why he wasn't the number one pick.

  • @kennyhiggins7806
    @kennyhiggins7806 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Whenever I see “Acho” on his show, and if he mentions Mahomes MVP, he Always makes it a point to remind everyone that P.M. was Not a unanimous MVP selection. And also that Lamar Jackson was a unanimous voted MVP selection!! Is there any difference between the 2 MVP titles? It sounds like Acho thinks so!!!

  • @wackapotamus
    @wackapotamus ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That bears trade was dreadful

  • @alaskau9175
    @alaskau9175 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Chiefs defense "was strong"?? It was ranked 31 during Mahomes' first season as a starter.

  • @lastbestplace8112
    @lastbestplace8112 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Kelc E...durr

  • @rool7956
    @rool7956 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Shanahan ans Mahomes would have been scary, especially now when NFC is so weak and 49ers having a top defense

  • @mikaahkana160
    @mikaahkana160 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In the last 25 years The bears trading up one spot is possibly the worst trade and selection ever right? At least rg3 had one good year. Took away Andrew lucks rookie of the year trophy for sure. Ran away literally.

  • @ektran4205
    @ektran4205 ปีที่แล้ว

    mahomes going to kc was the perfect situation for him

    • @jenniferaceste8823
      @jenniferaceste8823 ปีที่แล้ว

      If u listened to his appearance on the New Heights podcast, he pretty much drafted himself to the Chiefs.

  • @rpsnider85
    @rpsnider85 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's almost a mirror of teams missing on Mike Trout. Who, without the arrival of Shohei Ohtani taking over the best ever player title, was the best baseball player to ever play the game...dont bother harping about historic players like Ted Williams and Mickey Mantle....they never faced pitching like todays guys do. Trout was that once in a lifetime talent and everyone missed...even the Angels. Then came Shohei who is somehow even better than Trout.... nuts.

    • @thehalftimeshow
      @thehalftimeshow  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for sharing your perspective, I don’t have a strong baseball background.

  • @Lightgreen57
    @Lightgreen57 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Remember, mahomes was a boom or bust prospect, and if he had gone to the browns or bears, he probably would have been a bust.

  • @chrissiler6075
    @chrissiler6075 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dallas has a big problem, they passed on the kid from Whitehall Texas. Jerry doesn't know talent!!! RIP 15X3 times

  • @kithowell6217
    @kithowell6217 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ❤️💛😍🔥I hope so 😍💛❤️💛❤️💛❤️💛❤️

  • @kylehill3883
    @kylehill3883 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    But is Mahomes the player we know today if he doesn't go to KC? Definitely not if he goes 1st. Where a QB goes is important.

  • @001Tdog
    @001Tdog ปีที่แล้ว

    Some teams has other needs and you just cant tell how well any college player will do at a professional level so why are there still talks about this? He still went Top 10 so he was already regarded as a top prospect already..

  • @DavidStevenson-yh8sb
    @DavidStevenson-yh8sb 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I hope Patrick Mahomes surpasses Tom Brady 😀

  • @alonzojennings2172
    @alonzojennings2172 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mahomes would have been lethal with the 9ers🙄

  • @philwilis789
    @philwilis789 ปีที่แล้ว

    “Most fans and media” did not believe that the tyreek trade would expose mahomes

  • @Crutchcollectibles
    @Crutchcollectibles ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mahomes is the 🐐

  • @AnAccount
    @AnAccount ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I thought Mahomes would be a bust. Boy was I wrong

  • @johnusher2331
    @johnusher2331 ปีที่แล้ว

    And Pacheco was takin in the 7 round

  • @jrsands
    @jrsands ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “Environment matters”. That’s why the Chargers fired Joe Lombardi & hired Kellen Moore.

    • @thehalftimeshow
      @thehalftimeshow  ปีที่แล้ว

      Not sure if that was a rock or a compliment towards the bolts, but that made me laugh.

  • @aydenbarlow4042
    @aydenbarlow4042 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If I was the jets GM things would be so much better

  • @dakingltroyproductofdade3579
    @dakingltroyproductofdade3579 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brady went 6 round 199 pick montana 3rd round mohomes 10 pick 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @chrisp2813
    @chrisp2813 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does this dude even watch football? It’s Kelceeeeee

  • @joi8674
    @joi8674 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love these type of videos. "All these teams passed on this QB." Had Mahomes gone to any of the other teams he would have been shit. Andy Reid has a track record of developing QBs and getting the most of out of them. Had Mitch Trubisky gone to the chiefs they would have been an AFC championship team still.