The Chiefs when they had Alex Smith were a really good team. They never had a losing season, they were arguably the best team in the AFC (you can say they were the second best behind the Broncos 2012-2014), they had a good offense but they weren't a DOMINANT team. With Patrick, they are not only a dynamic team but they're also a dominant team. He has the same aura and winning edge that Brady had, you can never ever count him out nor bet against him because he will always make you pay dearly if you do. He might make some mistakes here and there, but in the moments that matter he always rises to the occasion. He had been near flawless in the playoffs and in the Superbowl especially. Super Bowl 57 was the game where although his passing yards were just 182, that doesn't tell the whole story. His defense couldn't stop Jalen, but whenever he was on the field he made sure his team didn't get anything less than 6 points. Even now as his three other peers: Lamar, Joe, and Josh are having phenomenal seasons with Josh being the clear frontrunner for MVP, they are still miles behind him. Patrick has already won the regular season MVP award twice and even won a Super Bowl in one of those seasons, no player has ever accomplished that feat in 24 years. His goal is always a Super Bowl title, individual accolades don't matter to him.
So many factors go into deciding whether a star College QB will translate to the NFL or not. With a solid Head Coach..and a kid that's coachable, amazing things can happen!
He is better than TB12 up to this point by far. TB 12 got better, and his ceiling was lower than Mahomes’ ceiling is for sure! TB12 is referencing that he wished he could have done these scramble things that more QB’s can do today. And Mahomes’ is the best scrambler. Better than Lamar you ask? Yes because scrambling is not about getting the 1st down, it’s about keeping the play alive until you can make “the play”. 90% of the time, the play must be to throw to your guy, get your team involved. Nobody should be sitting back to watch or trying to merely block for the QB. Lamar does too much and therefore cannot win. It’s pretty much the same thing with Josh Allen. He ends up doing too much. Mahomes knows that it’s not supposed to be the QB that does everything or too much. He has the vision to get the ball to his guys. Lamar and Josh hear that, but they are not quite able to do that so they gotta carry their teams in hopes of winning, but they have not been able to win. Mahomes is the best scrambler and best QB ever.
Yeah, Mahomes is better. I don't think he'll have the longevity that Brady had though. Mahomes' game is highly dependent on his athleticism while Brady's specialty was his knowledge, savvy, and preparation. Mahomes runs one way, throws across his body, scrambles from the pocket etc. while Brady stood in one place and dissected defenses with precision passes. As players and generally everybody ages, their physical aptitudes slowly deteriorate starting in their 30s. You can't run as fast, throw as hard, change direction as quickly, take longer to recover from exercise and injury. That wasn't a problem for Tom Brady because he just stayed in the pocket and picked defenses apart so it didn't matter if his athleticism was fading since he didn't rely on it like Mahomes does. IMO the last ten years of Tom Brady's career from 35 to 45 will be more productive than Mahomes at that age, while conversely the early part of Mahomes career will and has been more productive than Tom's. There's a lot of other factors to consider like how the league has changed since Brady's early days when passing wasn't as prevalent and a 4,000 yard season was an outlier for any QB, and now most QBs have 4,000 yard seasons. Also there's a 17th game in the season now, and extra playoff teams so comparing their stats is like comparing apples to oranges at this point.
The way to answer that is to pick which one you would take as a rookie, knowing what you know now, if you were the GM of a team and drafting a QB. You'd be a fool not to take Mahomes.
Pretty obvious. Mahomes was a top 10 pick in the 1st round while Tom Brady was a throwaway pick at the end of the draft. The difference is Mahomes has all the physical gifts and came into the league as an elite QB while Brady shaped himself into an elite QB through hard work and preparation over many years. Mahomes won't be as productive late in his career as Brady was, and Brady wasn't as productive early in his career as Mahomes was.
Can view it how you want but just a question here. Why doesnt andy reid get any credit for any of this at all? Dudes an offensive mastermind an were acting like mahomes woulda done the same thing if he was drafted by the bears. Yeah hes good but he also got dropped into probably the most ideal situation for a young qb. Dude can play but i feel andy reid should get some credit for this.
Because a coach can only do so much to a player. The coaches can only tell them what to do but the player has to be able to go and do it which most are not capable of doing which is why mahomes gets the credit because he’s the one playing
100%. Mahomes was a top 10 pick dropped into an offense surrounded by future Hall of Fame players like Travis Kelce, and Tyreek Hill, coached by future hall of fame offensive guru Andy Reid. If Mahomes were drafted by the Bears he could have been a bust surrounded by a poor offense, and not able to develop the way he did due to poor coaching and scheme. Andy Reid deserves a lot of credit.
Man imagine if he went to the Saints with Sean Payton word is the saints were gonna pick him with that 11th pick Sean Payton even took a private jets to Lubbock and had a private meeting with him and he was on lock to go to the saints but Andy Reid caught wind of it and Jumped right in front of the saints to draft him that’s why he gave up the picks to get him. He would have sat behind drew Bree’s for 2 seasons and then we would have continued a dynasty
and NFC is easier as AFC i would say. Sure there were some Juggernauts but the AFC has Josh, Lamar and Burrow and Mahomes still comes through. Imagine the NFC... we would have walked to the SB maybe 5/5 times if he was there.
From a pure talent perspective, he’s better than Brady. He just needs the hardware now. IMO he only needs 5 or 6 rings to be the GOAT. His mobility alone is better than Brady.
Pretty much every QB who has ever played is better than Brady from a talent perspective. Brady came into the league as a throwaway pick at the end of the draft, and through hard work and dedication molded himself into one of the all time greats despite his complete lack of natural athletic talent.
I was the only person who knew Mahomes would be amazing. I drafted him 2nd round in fantasy in his first starting year when he threw 50 TDs. He carried me that season lmao😂
Here is my look at it as a chiefs fan. As a base, no he is not better yet. However I think a very fair and pretty factual point weather people want to believe it or not I think mahomes is the most athletic QB of all time. The way he is able to contorted his body is wild. And on top of making throws no quaterback has ever made he could have gon pro in baseball and basketball. Thats my view on it. But he has a real shot at being the greatest.
Brady is sly. He is avoiding a judgment, comparing Mahomes' and his own actual ability, by focusing--utterly absurdly--on the press conference. Which he knows no one will take seriously.
Of course he IS !!!!! Tom says so himself,,,,it takes a true champion to KEEP ON WINNING when you're down,,,,,when you're not supposed to be winning and yet ,,,,you keep on coming out on top,,,yeah,,, that's the sign of a true champion,,,,,a true baller,,,a DOGG,,,,,i cant say enough about Patrick Mahomes !!!!!
Brady is clearly more accomplished at this point,but Mahomes is the better player. Mahomes can make every play Brady can make. Brady could never make many of the plays that Mahomes routinely makes. While Brady clearly had a good arm, he never had the arm talent that Mahomes has. Brady was never very mobile either, although his pocket mobility was good. Mahomes can do things with his legs that Brady could never do. Make Brady more athletic and you have Mahomes.
Yeah, Mahomes is better. I don't think he'll have the longevity that Brady had though. Mahomes' game is highly dependent on his athleticism while Brady's specialty was his knowledge, savvy, and preparation. Mahomes runs one way, throws across his body, scrambles from the pocket etc. while Brady stood in one place and dissected defenses with precision passes. As players and generally everybody ages, their physical aptitudes slowly deteriorate starting in their 30s. You can't run as fast, throw as hard, change direction as quickly, take longer to recover from exercise and injury. That wasn't a problem for Tom Brady because he just stayed in the pocket and picked defenses apart so it didn't matter if his athleticism was fading since he didn't rely on it like Mahomes does. IMO the last ten years of Tom Brady's career from 35 to 45 will be more productive than Mahomes at that age, while conversely the early part of Mahomes career will and has been more productive than Tom's. There's a lot of other factors to consider like how the league has changed since Brady's early days when passing wasn't as prevalent and a 4,000 yard season was an outlier for any QB, and now most QBs have 4,000 yard seasons. Also there's a 17th game in the season now, and extra playoff teams so comparing their stats is like comparing apples to oranges at this point.
Crazy how skip supported him at firat then totally switched up. And everybody need to stop believeing Tyreek, he's fooling everyone. He's just joking, people. He ain't ever thought mahomes was trash.
@@sherrijo2591 Maybe better than Brady at 29 years old but Mahomes has 16 more years to go to match Brady who retired at 45. A lot can go wrong in 16 years.
Do you think Patrick Mahomes is already better than Tom Brady?
Hell no
yes. yes he is.
Absolutely no question
Raider fan 🤡
YES
Mahomes is goat and got that black mamba mentality.
The Chiefs when they had Alex Smith were a really good team. They never had a losing season, they were arguably the best team in the AFC (you can say they were the second best behind the Broncos 2012-2014), they had a good offense but they weren't a DOMINANT team. With Patrick, they are not only a dynamic team but they're also a dominant team. He has the same aura and winning edge that Brady had, you can never ever count him out nor bet against him because he will always make you pay dearly if you do. He might make some mistakes here and there, but in the moments that matter he always rises to the occasion. He had been near flawless in the playoffs and in the Superbowl especially. Super Bowl 57 was the game where although his passing yards were just 182, that doesn't tell the whole story. His defense couldn't stop Jalen, but whenever he was on the field he made sure his team didn't get anything less than 6 points. Even now as his three other peers: Lamar, Joe, and Josh are having phenomenal seasons with Josh being the clear frontrunner for MVP, they are still miles behind him. Patrick has already won the regular season MVP award twice and even won a Super Bowl in one of those seasons, no player has ever accomplished that feat in 24 years. His goal is always a Super Bowl title, individual accolades don't matter to him.
Yh
Bro u wrote more than when I finished my essay last week god dayum😂
@WilliamBrown-pk8hd This guy gets it!
Best in the AFC? We won one playoff game in like 5 years with Smith. It was nice to finally have winning seasons but best in the AFC is crazy.
@@LottoSmoke420right they were still behind the Steelers back then. Let alone broncos patriots hell even the jets for a lil bit
Old Unc and his buddy will never completely live down their clueless disdain. LMAO
So many factors go into deciding whether a star College QB will translate to the NFL or not. With a solid Head Coach..and a kid that's coachable, amazing things can happen!
I’m a chiefs fan and I don’t have him over Brady yet but he’s the only one on the path
Still a long way to go .....
@ if they three peat I don’t think he needs 7 I think he needs 5+. If not then I’d say 7 would do it
Brady sux.😮
I'm a Chiefs fan and I have him over Brady 🤷🏾
He is better than TB12 up to this point by far. TB 12 got better, and his ceiling was lower than Mahomes’ ceiling is for sure!
TB12 is referencing that he wished he could have done these scramble things that more QB’s can do today. And Mahomes’ is the best scrambler. Better than Lamar you ask? Yes because scrambling is not about getting the 1st down, it’s about keeping the play alive until you can make “the play”. 90% of the time, the play must be to throw to your guy, get your team involved. Nobody should be sitting back to watch or trying to merely block for the QB. Lamar does too much and therefore cannot win. It’s pretty much the same thing with Josh Allen. He ends up doing too much. Mahomes knows that it’s not supposed to be the QB that does everything or too much. He has the vision to get the ball to his guys. Lamar and Josh hear that, but they are not quite able to do that so they gotta carry their teams in hopes of winning, but they have not been able to win.
Mahomes is the best scrambler and best QB ever.
Yeah, Mahomes is better. I don't think he'll have the longevity that Brady had though. Mahomes' game is highly dependent on his athleticism while Brady's specialty was his knowledge, savvy, and preparation. Mahomes runs one way, throws across his body, scrambles from the pocket etc. while Brady stood in one place and dissected defenses with precision passes. As players and generally everybody ages, their physical aptitudes slowly deteriorate starting in their 30s. You can't run as fast, throw as hard, change direction as quickly, take longer to recover from exercise and injury. That wasn't a problem for Tom Brady because he just stayed in the pocket and picked defenses apart so it didn't matter if his athleticism was fading since he didn't rely on it like Mahomes does. IMO the last ten years of Tom Brady's career from 35 to 45 will be more productive than Mahomes at that age, while conversely the early part of Mahomes career will and has been more productive than Tom's. There's a lot of other factors to consider like how the league has changed since Brady's early days when passing wasn't as prevalent and a 4,000 yard season was an outlier for any QB, and now most QBs have 4,000 yard seasons. Also there's a 17th game in the season now, and extra playoff teams so comparing their stats is like comparing apples to oranges at this point.
The way to answer that is to pick which one you would take as a rookie, knowing what you know now, if you were the GM of a team and drafting a QB. You'd be a fool not to take Mahomes.
Pretty obvious. Mahomes was a top 10 pick in the 1st round while Tom Brady was a throwaway pick at the end of the draft. The difference is Mahomes has all the physical gifts and came into the league as an elite QB while Brady shaped himself into an elite QB through hard work and preparation over many years. Mahomes won't be as productive late in his career as Brady was, and Brady wasn't as productive early in his career as Mahomes was.
There was old skip Clueless
He was right on the money wym
@Danté_J24 sounds like you're another Chiefs hater
What's Chris Carter doin these days? 😂
Chiefs just signed him to the practice squad.
Doin podcasts with his baby dreads
Can view it how you want but just a question here. Why doesnt andy reid get any credit for any of this at all? Dudes an offensive mastermind an were acting like mahomes woulda done the same thing if he was drafted by the bears. Yeah hes good but he also got dropped into probably the most ideal situation for a young qb. Dude can play but i feel andy reid should get some credit for this.
Because a coach can only do so much to a player. The coaches can only tell them what to do but the player has to be able to go and do it which most are not capable of doing which is why mahomes gets the credit because he’s the one playing
,yeah,,,but we're not talking coaches right here,,,were talking q.b.'s,,,,,
😂
100%. Mahomes was a top 10 pick dropped into an offense surrounded by future Hall of Fame players like Travis Kelce, and Tyreek Hill, coached by future hall of fame offensive guru Andy Reid. If Mahomes were drafted by the Bears he could have been a bust surrounded by a poor offense, and not able to develop the way he did due to poor coaching and scheme. Andy Reid deserves a lot of credit.
I absolutely love Josh Allen he’s such a great guy for real ❤
Man imagine if he went to the Saints with Sean Payton word is the saints were gonna pick him with that 11th pick Sean Payton even took a private jets to Lubbock and had a private meeting with him and he was on lock to go to the saints but Andy Reid caught wind of it and Jumped right in front of the saints to draft him that’s why he gave up the picks to get him. He would have sat behind drew Bree’s for 2 seasons and then we would have continued a dynasty
and NFC is easier as AFC i would say. Sure there were some Juggernauts but the AFC has Josh, Lamar and Burrow and Mahomes still comes through. Imagine the NFC... we would have walked to the SB maybe 5/5 times if he was there.
QBs don't play QBs. Hate that bs.
Agrred
From a pure talent perspective, he’s better than Brady. He just needs the hardware now. IMO he only needs 5 or 6 rings to be the GOAT. His mobility alone is better than Brady.
Pretty much every QB who has ever played is better than Brady from a talent perspective. Brady came into the league as a throwaway pick at the end of the draft, and through hard work and dedication molded himself into one of the all time greats despite his complete lack of natural athletic talent.
I was the only person who knew Mahomes would be amazing. I drafted him 2nd round in fantasy in his first starting year when he threw 50 TDs. He carried me that season lmao😂
We Red Raiders will always love our Mahomes ❤❤❤
Didn’t they think Tom Brady wasn’t ready
He's clutch and it started from last year 's playoff run and he's continuing it. He's not there yet, but he he get there and exceed him soon
last year? where have you been since 2018?
one must understand his EARLIEST exit from an NFL season in his nearly decade career is the AFC Championship game... ummmmmm
@@MiracleBro605 everywhere
@@MiracleBro605 I do understand
....you're not exhibiting it
Here is my look at it as a chiefs fan. As a base, no he is not better yet. However I think a very fair and pretty factual point weather people want to believe it or not I think mahomes is the most athletic QB of all time. The way he is able to contorted his body is wild. And on top of making throws no quaterback has ever made he could have gon pro in baseball and basketball. Thats my view on it. But he has a real shot at being the greatest.
Brady is sly. He is avoiding a judgment, comparing Mahomes' and his own actual ability, by focusing--utterly absurdly--on the press conference. Which he knows no one will take seriously.
Of course he IS !!!!! Tom says so himself,,,,it takes a true champion to KEEP ON WINNING when you're down,,,,,when you're not supposed to be winning and yet ,,,,you keep on coming out on top,,,yeah,,, that's the sign of a true champion,,,,,a true baller,,,a DOGG,,,,,i cant say enough about Patrick Mahomes !!!!!
Brady is clearly more accomplished at this point,but Mahomes is the better player. Mahomes can make every play Brady can make. Brady could never make many of the plays that Mahomes routinely makes. While Brady clearly had a good arm, he never had the arm talent that Mahomes has. Brady was never very mobile either, although his pocket mobility was good. Mahomes can do things with his legs that Brady could never do. Make Brady more athletic and you have Mahomes.
Yeah, Mahomes is better. I don't think he'll have the longevity that Brady had though. Mahomes' game is highly dependent on his athleticism while Brady's specialty was his knowledge, savvy, and preparation. Mahomes runs one way, throws across his body, scrambles from the pocket etc. while Brady stood in one place and dissected defenses with precision passes. As players and generally everybody ages, their physical aptitudes slowly deteriorate starting in their 30s. You can't run as fast, throw as hard, change direction as quickly, take longer to recover from exercise and injury. That wasn't a problem for Tom Brady because he just stayed in the pocket and picked defenses apart so it didn't matter if his athleticism was fading since he didn't rely on it like Mahomes does. IMO the last ten years of Tom Brady's career from 35 to 45 will be more productive than Mahomes at that age, while conversely the early part of Mahomes career will and has been more productive than Tom's. There's a lot of other factors to consider like how the league has changed since Brady's early days when passing wasn't as prevalent and a 4,000 yard season was an outlier for any QB, and now most QBs have 4,000 yard seasons. Also there's a 17th game in the season now, and extra playoff teams so comparing their stats is like comparing apples to oranges at this point.
He is where he should be not the Saints it all worked out
Yes. Tom Brady has even said that as well.
Most people’s logic is skewed by Super Bowl rings.
And it’s unfortunate
MY GOAT ❤️
How long can you talk before any content? Good lord. Also why does every sentence have to end with going higher pitched?
Crazy how skip supported him at firat then totally switched up.
And everybody need to stop believeing Tyreek, he's fooling everyone. He's just joking, people. He ain't ever thought mahomes was trash.
Mahomes is one of the best ever.
Mahomes is the best QB I’ve ever seen. Tom Brady has four more rings, ergo the GOAT
Were you born yesterday?
So by your logic Bill Russell is better than Jordan
nope, mahomes didnt have to play against the legion of boom, didnt have to play against ray lewis soo toms always the goat
Are you Mike korzembas brother?
No way you can wish but it won't do no good.
Skip was actually right for once
Nowhere in this video does Brady say Mahomes is better than he was. The thumbnail was just click-bait.
,,well,,,he is. !!!!!!!!
@@sherrijo2591 Maybe better than Brady at 29 years old but Mahomes has 16 more years to go to match Brady who retired at 45. A lot can go wrong in 16 years.
great qb!!! but not yet!!! superbowl wise he has to win another 5 to beat brady!!!
Skip Bayless always stinks it up.
I wouldn’t say that…
Cris Carter didn't age well here.
8:48 Skip, you stink up everything.
Dan Marino is the best.
No way,he will never win as many superbowls as Tom
SB wins are not an indicator of QB talent. You don't even have to play to get a ring. Are Trent Dilfer and Ely Manning better than Dan Marino?
Yes he will,,,,just give himore time,,,,,he will
Mahomes don't even register top 10 in my book, not yet.
Nobody’s gonna read your book
You must be a burrow fan
🤡
Thats wild asf I'm sure even most of the biggest haters wouldn't even say that
Your book is filled with BS.