Once Upon an Apocryphal Christmas...
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ธ.ค. 2022
- Christmas in the Apocryphal Gospels is strange. In this video, we’ll explore the festive stories and Christian writings that didn’t make it into the Bible. After all, the Christmas story in the Bible is very brief, so delving into these unofficial texts reveals colourful extra details. Like dragons, a walking/talking baby-Jesus, and an obedient tree giving Mary its fruit.
Ever heard of the Infancy Gospel of Thomas, The History of Joseph the Carpenter, The Gospel of Pseudo Matthew, or the amazingly named Protoevangelium of James? Nowadays, we’ve largely forgotten that these hidden stories even exist. But they’ve always been there, especially in religious art. Had the apocryphal gospels been included in the Bible, they would have dramatically changed how the Christmas story is told. Something to think about: to what extent were the Apocryphal Gospels part on an original Christmas story?
I really hope you enjoy this one, and do check out my new podcast The Interruption. I’m so excited to share it with you all - it’s been a year in the making. Thank you for a great year here on TH-cam and for 730k subscribers!
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Sources & Further Reading:
Christmas in the Biblical Apocrypha:
www.biblicalarchaeology.org/d...
A History of Apocryphal Christmas Traditions:
brandonwhawk.net/2014/12/18/a...
Non-Biblical Nativity (contains links to the Apocryphal Gospels themselves):
www.glencairnmuseum.org/nativ...
Infancy Gospel - Wiki
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infancy...
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There's something oddly adorable about a donkey and ox taking one look at a baby and instantly being like "Aight, we're your pets now".
To be fair, if I was a donkey, I would want to be baby Jesus’s donkey
The donkey probably only did it because he didn't want to be an *ass*. eh I'll see myself out
"And in the morning, I'm makin' waffles!" - the donkey...probably.
They imprinted on him?
YESSSS. So good honestly. 😂
We need to start adding dragons to nativity scenes ASAP
No need. Seraphim has that covered. The Nativity is about Jesus though.
yes
That's exactly what I'll try to do this year
Crocodiles inhabited the area & that's where dragons came from.
It always amuses me about how between the othodox texts and apocrypha you basically have a fully fledged cinematic universe, complete with sequels, prequels, interquels, and multiple continuity snarls and retcons.
Same thing with ancient Greek and Roman mythology; they could AT LEAST make a Game of Thrones-style show about it.
Start dipping into the non cannon stuff from other local faiths
As Marc Maron said, they both came out of the old Jewish writer's room.
@@twilightgardenspresentatio6384 thats what is so fascinating it was all part of the lore back in those days. Many different "religions" had stories of a messiah, a sacrifice.
@@twilightgardenspresentatio6384 Islam uses Jesus commanding the palm tree & making birds from clay in the Qu'ran so, in a way it's already been done. Looks like the Council of Nicaea voted out some valid writings, as Pseudo-Matthew does confirm Isaiah.
ProtoEvangelium could be such a cool band name
we are PROTOEVANGELIUM and this song is called "The Bible Accurate Angels Took my Baby Away"
Do it girl!
@@deathbywords I just need some bandmates, I've been coming up with bandnames in the same way in the last couple years, mixing 2 words togheter since all the cool names have already been taken by a century of bands. :v
I think the band would be a sort of Yemenite metal folk fusion sound. But all acoustic.
I call dibs
"If we're going to include apocryphal creatures, where's the kid dressed up like a dragon?"
...Looking back on my childhood, I would _absolutely_ be that kid provided the opportunity to do so.
I think there'd be a riot among the kids who *weren't* picked to be the dragon lol.
@@5peciesunkn0wn for real
Going with your namesake, you'd dress up as 'Puff the Magic Dragon'
I've got an image in my head now of a nativity play where the kids have to bring in their own costumes and the one playing the angel comes in with the flaming wheels of eyes.
@@jamesflames6987 That would be awesome!
It was a hochelaga Christmas… and all through the street
Not a creature was stirring
Not even the sheep
And then came along
The jolly old hoch
Telling every boy and girl of
Hieronymous Bosch
Killed it
@@AC-hj9tv Fuck. Yes.
"Things get apocryphal again", I've got to use that phrase at some point in my life.
"How'd the date go?"
"It got apocryphal".
I started watching this channel when you made Twas a bible accurate Christmas, and now it's pretty much gone full circle!
Love it!
Me too!
Heh... Full Circle
I've always felt like something is missing in all the Christmas narratives. And it's a dragon!
Ok but they should have never removed that part about the donkey and the ox =)) It made the Christmas story even more wholesome
Take a look at an Orthodox icon. It's in there.
Orthodox icons have the donkey and ox! The NT apocrypha isnt included but it exists in the icons
Its referenced in some of the carols - "the ox and the lamb come around him", and "oh come let us adore him"
@@andrewternet8370they appear in the Spanish nativity
So... In my country, is a tradition to make a christmas manger in the houses or in the town blocks, so neighbours and familes can pray togheter and share food until 25 morning... I always noticed that a donkey and a bull figure are always put near Jesus crib, but we never questioned it nor really think about it.
So for now on, i'll never see those animals again in the same way, and probably tell everyone about this.
Greetings from Colombia
Make a dragon to add to it this year 😅
Belen
I love the way he says “thats nice”
I read your comment just as he said that! 😄
@@sird2333 😆
That image at 02:22 had me in stitches! Great channel, keep up the good work, dear sir.
Bro’s got that light skin stare
@@nategracci9035 the one brow at a 90° angle lmao
I love ancient people, I mean they saw a strange creature to tell them what to do and their reaction was like "yeah that's legit"
Heavy air quotes on “saw” LOL. nobody saw shit except maybe in dreams which they interpreted as from god/gods
@@wolfiemuse Prove it
Better than us following the lies of the CDC, NIH and FAUCI.
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@@thrithgolden2748 so true! i too would rather listen to a heffalump i saw in a dream once than peer-reviewed medical professionals
@@MrPrius-fy1sc then why did these peer review medical professionals prevent anyone suing pharmecutical companies producing these vaccines? If its so safe then why safeguard?
2:23 I'm sorry but that angel doing 'the people's eyebrow' made me lose it 💀
Lowkey a little scary that jesus drops the be not afraid line.
this goes SO WELL with the last Wendigoon video, like this is the ""light"" version, and wendigoon went to the depths of the biblical fanfiction 🤩
Please collab!!
Edit: I added quote marks because I understand it's a lot of work nonetheless ^^
daniela, hablas español?
I will marry you
I see that you are a woman of colture as well 😎
Wendigoon is overrated
It's not a lot of work. This is bare minimum and contains inaccuracies.
I hear that in the protoevangelium of james a young man named Shiloh is made to fight angels against his will by his father. Canonical angels are pretty weird but they have some gnarly described appearances in there. "Mount the war chariot, Shiloh!" is a fairly famous quote from that gospel.
I thoughy the kid forced to fight angels because of is father forced him to called Shinji Ikari
Oh my Lord this took me a while lmao
Can't wait for some teens to make a biblically accurate nativity play, it'll be the best Christmas prank ever.
Well, this ISN’T the Bible. These accounts are from the books that were rejected by the early church councils that determined the Biblical canon.
The question is, does the Proto-evangelion contain a cruel angel's pre-thesis?
They've presented their thesis statement at the very least, but the requests for revisions led to the neon genesis version.
@@takeagalbythehand
You mean the one where the gay angel is the proofreader.
Why was I forced to be a Sheppard in my Christmas play when I could have been a dragon :( come on man
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Commander Shepard
This stuff is fascinating. I was raised Mormon so I know all about Biblical fan fiction, that's what the book of Mormon is. When are they gonna make a Christmas movie about baby Jesus taming dragons?
Are you still a Christian?
@@weirdo9958 no I'm not. I left when I was about 15. I consider myself agnostic I guess, nontheistic to be a little more specific. I have differences in agreement with a lot of the core doctrine of Christianity. I do find a lot of value in the concept of Jesus and look up to what they say he was. I say that I believe in Jesus in a figurative sense but not in a literal sense, I don't know if that makes SENSE or not? Hahaha
@@jevinday are you trying to say that you don't believe Jesus existed but you believe in the values of Christianity?
@@weirdo9958 yeah exactly. Sorry I was trying to figure out how to put how I feel into words
I don’t understand the concept of Christmas. Jesus was not born anywhere near Christmas, atleast according to the bible
Imagine your kids first words were to be not afraid
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6:30 I chuckled so hard at this
Of course those are his first words lmao
I think i have lost my mind.
😂😂😂 Heavenly beings will jumpscare the living daylight out of u then gaslight u 😂
Loved this too much. The young Jesus stories are just beautiful and despite their positioning in the Canon. It's nice to see that many people, even at the time, liked the stories.
7:22 I actually remember this from an obscure Christmas carol we sang in youth choir! It’s called “the cherry tree carol” and it’s from the Middle Ages when weird theology was all over the damn place.
The only difference between the song and the story in the video is, in the song Jesus hasn’t been born yet. The tree is commanded to bow by unborn fetus-Jesus so his momma can snack on some cherries. Also, Joseph is salty because he literally just found out that Mary’s pregnant and it’s not his kid, but then the tree bows for her and Joseph is all like “holy crap, she really WAS knocked up by god. This is kinda awesome. Alright, we’re cool Mary, I’m okay with this”.
King Herod is mentioned in one song often played at Christmas, although not as often as others. "The Coventry Carol", quite possibly one of the oldest known carols ever written, mentions King Herod.
"Herod the king, in his raging
Charged he hath this day
His men of might in his own sight
All young children to slay"
It's amazing how there was fan fiction back then too.
Love this video, you answered a few questions I always had about specific stories left out of the Bible! Thank you for all you do
I love these videos.
Very informative without being biased. Interesting stuff. Great work!
Herod's slaying of the children (often "childer") is in the deep verses of many carols: "Coventry Carol" and especially "Unto Us is Born a Son"
Going from wendigoons apocryphal video to this is awesome
Another great video, Tommie! Thank you very much.
I see the donkey and ox depicted as art in my Orthodox Church, I always thought they represented good/evil. I’m sure my dad will like it when I tell him it’s not biblically accurate.
They're in almost every icon of the nativity
@@calebshoemaker I don’t see them at Catholic Churches
@@Caerulis but RC art and an Orthodox icon aren't the same thing. And EO icons of the nativity, no matter how sparse the characters, will have the ox and donkey because of that verse in Isaiah
They also appear in Spanish nativity dioramas
If you have fanfiction, fanart is usually close behind.
Listening to The Interruption right now! It's really great so far. Congrats on your success, man!
Loving your work. Thanks for doing these - and well done on your work solving the Southern TV mystery.
This was a super interesting video! Also really loving the podcast. Keep up the excellent work!
I love your work, and the Interruption has been simply FANTASTIC. I cannot wait to see what is next!!
Christmas is a lovely holiday, it's Christian, it's norse, it's english, its everything :) I'm glad even as a lapsed Christian I can really appreciate a good holiday. Speaking of, I'd love it if you do similar videos on other Christian or even or religious holidays! Even ones we might not celebrate anymore. That would be really extra cool in my opinion :p
Thanks for this. I really enjoyed it. Merry Christmas 🐂🌟
I love your channel. Mainly your personality and how its expressed in your motion graphics. It's both educational and entertaining.
Twas an apocryphal accurate Christmas and all through the house
No ones was screaming
Except for the catholic mouse
Oh 😄🤣😂😆😄🤣
Ah, truly a great and cozy video on a such a cold night… thank you for this! I always learn something new from you
Yet another Christmas special! An early xmas gift perhaps?
I so enjoy your videos. Please keep them coming. Thank you for yet another fascinating tale.
Yes! Happy holiday to you Hoch! Thanks for the gift of this video :)
I have to say I absolutely love your podcast about the southern television interruption.
I was so happy when I saw this in my notifications. Thank you!
This awesome video has now joined my yearly Christmas traditions. I absolutely Love your videos!!!!
I hope Hochelaga will do a more recent lore explanation, like explaining the entire Monument Mythos or telling us the actual story of Death Stranding.
Listening to The Interruption right now! Great start man!
This is the only video upload by you that I didn't watch instantly, yet I am watching it now Hochelaga, and my insomnia is getting calm. I can sleep with your voice lullaby.
Great one. So excited to listen to the podcast
I got in trouble as a kid during my church nativity play for dressing up as a dragon.
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im not even religious but i eat these videos up so much.
As an atheist this just sounds like the wildest fever dream to ever exist
As an ex-Catholic, I love how trippy this was.
A gin and tonic can usually help . Clarity assured.
@@nunyabiznes33 after I stopped being a Catholic myself I didn't know what to make of the story but these wild stories are making me like the holiday again, now I just want to add a dragon to the nativity scene to make it more fun
@@monus782 Seeing as how much the original Christian doctrine was changed by the Catholics, no wonder people leave the faith... I always see "As an ex-Catholic" but never "As an ex-Protestant"
If I may ask, why did you leave? Im Christian myself, and I evangelize quite often, so I like to know arguments against it.
Always looking forward to a notification from you!!
I just LOVE this video, best Christmas gift
Dungeons and dragons quote got me lol
More roles for children in their Nativity. A dragon would be awesome in any play but in the Nativity, it beats being a shepherd...
Perfect timing for my commute. 🥰
My hoodie looks great, thank you for a biblically accurate Christmas
if my toddlers first words were do not be afraid u cn be sure as hell thats exactly what im gunna be
Yup I would run screaming
I just finished The Interruption, it was absolutely amazing, well done sir. Heres to (not spoiling it)❤️
My hoodie looks great. Thank you for a biblically accurate Christmas.
Praise be Saklas! Another upload has arrived!
It's really fun to watch this video on Christmas eve.
The "jesus bending a tree for mary to eat from it" bit is also in the Qu'ran to my knowledge, but there, she was still pregnant
Wonderful video! Such an elegant delivery of obscure data and superb imagery. Mega like!!
Excited to listen to the podcast
I love your voice, I’m sure gonna enjoy the podcast man
During Christmas dinner my grandmother would always choose as table decoration a manger with baby Jesus surrounded by his parents and a few animals, including a donkey and an ox. I remember looking at the animals and thinking they looked in awe. We're from South America.
Christmas came around on 325 A.D Jesus was born on 9/11/3 B.C.
Haha just what I’ve always felt missing from “the Christmas Story” - dragons 🐉! 🤬🎄👍
For some reason that old dancing baby gif popped into my head when told that seconds-old baby J could already stand 😂
I thought it was weird enough when three Zoroastrians turn up but I wasn't ready for Neo-Gospel Evangelium
Love your videos and looking forward to listening your podcast
Have a merry Yule my friend and a Happy New Year! Cheers from Canada!
Thank you!!
thank you so much you're comforting
Excellent angle on Christmas!
I would love if you could upload your podcast to TH-cam, even with just a blank screen in the back.
Thank you for always making very interesting and well made videos.
Always excellent videos
God bless you.
Merry Christmas.
I ❤️❤️❤️❤️ all your videos and content. Amazing!
Proto Genesis Evangalium show is gonna be lit 🔥
Another great video. Happy Christmas to you sir.
Amazingly done
Tommy I just wanted to say since this is the first video you’ve released in a bit - I ADORE the Intereuption. I’m addicted to it and each episode I’m trying to guess who we’ve heard that may have actually been the guy. My current theory is it’s the older British gentleman who was knowledgeable about aerials and said he was putting one up the day of the event!! That guy. Think you talked to him from the Facebook page. Don’t remember the guys name. Just wanted to give you my appreciation. A very very good podcast
merry christimas, you guys!!! 💖💖
Thx man
One note on the slaughter of the innocents, it is in a Carol: the Coventry Carol.
It isnt very often performed for obvious reason though.
I love your videos. Thanks for putting your efforts into them!
may I mention that its actually more likely that the Christmas tree was a German innovation, as the Teutonic knights whose job it was to wipe out Baltic paganism are recorded as having set up a tree in Christmas and danced around it. If it were pagan, that'd be an odd thing for devout Christian crusaders to do.
It could've been a Germanic pagan tradition, but if so it was integrated into Christian lore early in Germany, early enough to allow holy crusaders to think it was just fine and not heretical in the slightest
F54king true!
I NEED EP 7 OF INTERRUPTED!!!!! So amazing great work 🤙🤙
The date of Christmas actually comes from a calculation by one of the early church leaders, who believe Jesus was conceived during one of the feast days, and based on his calculation, Jesus' birth landed on Dec 25th. Interestingly, some others in the east made similar calculations, but landed on Jan 6th as the date, and from what I understand, the twelve days of Christmas was created to bridge the gap between the two points of view.
You might want to re-check your facts. Jesus was not born in the winter, and "Christmas" has nothing to do with Jesus.
@@stephaniefogelvik4756you gotta solve that child mormon trauma of yours my friend
@@stephaniefogelvik4756 I'm not saying He was or wasn't, I'm simply saying we got the date Dec 25th from earlier church leaders who had a theory about when it was.
Ohmygod I love your videos so so so much! Thank you for the podcast, I am looking forward to listen to it! Btw in my country, Czechia, we have traditions of making little "Betlehems". Those are tiny sceneries made from paper, wood, ceramics or basically anything you can imagine and they present the picture of the holy family right after a birth of baby Jesus. We always include donkey and the ox in those, it´s a necesity and quite literally I´ve never thought where did they come from. So thank you for explanantion!
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When will your podcasts be out? We're excited
Very interesting didn’t know about this.
fascinating, thank you. merry Christmas
The nose glasses photoshop got me pretty good.