What Language did the Harappans Speak? Mystery of Harappan Civilization's Script
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Until the 1920s, two of the oldest civilizations known to the world were the civilizations of Egypt and Mesopotamia. But all that changed when officers of the Archaeological Survey of India found evidence of an ancient civilization along the banks of the Indus river. The Indus Valley Civilization was home to one of the ancient world's most developed societies. But we still don't know what language the people of this civilization spoke. It remains one of the most enduring mysteries of our time. But today, researchers are using AI to help us decode the Indus script. In this video, we discuss the reasons why deciphering the script has eluded the best of us, and whether we can are any closer to decoding it than we were a hundred years ago.
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Introduction 00:00
History 1:58
Challenge No 1 - No Rosetta Stone 5:04
Challenge No 2 - Short Texts 6:31
What We Do Know? - Direction of Writing 7:10
What We Do Know? - It's a Language 7:42
Indus Script Represents a Sanskrit-Type Language 11:42
Indus Script Represents Another Language 12:41
What Next? 13:58
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Indus valley was Pre Vedic Civilisation
Bhai gond language se compare kar lo
Moti ravan kangali se khoj kr li hai
@@jioboy2676 hyderabadi k2a
Worlds oldest and greatest language "Tamil" love from Kerala
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Tamil is the oldest of the languages that are still spoken today. The oldest language is Sumerian.
@@anubhabdas506 sumerian also connected to Tamil
Thanks for your comment but do you know that how Malayalam language started
I am from Kerala and our mother tongue itself is originated from Tamil . That's how great Tamil is . Mother of all languages,mother of dravidian culture ❤🔥
Only malayalam. Telgu has somany sanskrit loan words
Mother of all paje*t language 🤡
@@dockk8236 sanskrit is Central Asian origin and words are your native Telugu words
@@marzzz1680 what stupud mixing??
@@centralakbar9132 loan words and base words are 2 pillars of any language. Script doesnot matter. Kannad and telgu have more similarities with marathi than it has with tamil
Tamil comes from Shiva and Agastya sage .. long live divine Tamil
Yes 💯 and where are u from :)?
from bodhisattva avalokiteshvara
@@handIe. no
No Thamizh comes from Naga Loga
😂😂😂
Indus Valley Script is easier to understand than My Doctor's Prescription
Toh bata de kya likkha hain 😂🤣🤣
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Go straight to chemist
😂😂😂
Lagta h medical Wale bhaiya ko hi decode karwana hoga IVC ke scriptures 😂
I respect all the languages in the world but I am proud my mother tongue is Tamil ❤ and it’s still alive. வாழ்க தமிழ் ❤
But sanskrit is best..moslty indo yuropeeayn languages have big influence by sanskrit..Tamil is a ordinary language of darvidiyan people but sanskrit is language of God and world most powerful race Indo-European Aryan..
@@SandeepYadav-gx3nj Don’t make jokes 🤣 Why the God didn’t save Sanskrit while it’s dying? It’s dead 💀 now. Who’s mother tongue is Sanskrit? 🤣
@@TamilRoamer you just said you love all the languages then why are you making fun of Sanskrit dude? please don't do this, as you respect your tamil, i respect my sanskrit langauge, if you want to argue, argue over the ignorance of the other person based on facts but please don't make fun of a language.
@@tannukashyap8311 Am I making fun? I said I respect all the languages. I didn’t discriminate any language but
You need to look at his comment he said Tamil is an ordinary language and Sanskrit is God’s language. Will you watch silently when you get hit by others?
You need to ask him instead of me, he is the one who triggered…
@Vejhey dude i just read his comment, people like him are not even a bit open minded, I'll try my best but he will keep on sticking to his "sanskrit superiority"
I am malayali... but I can speak tamil and hindi....but tamil is the oldest language in the world.. may be the first language in the world which have scripts
Sanskrit and tamil both came to picture due to british strategy. Ashoka's two inscriptions are only found in Karnataka - maski and brahmagiri and old kannada is the only root which has continuous literary tradition and timeline where telugu, konkani and tulu deviated the latter two to form marathi and malayalam.
tamil has no literary continuity except for madras prasidency and. british slavery.
@@isilakarnataWhat if kannada originated from tamil bcz we shared the same landmass and later our part of our states divided ?
@@m.koventhan4777you guys forgot one more oldest dravidian language Telugu, sweetest language according to rabindranath tagore
@@isilakarnata First read the history properly bro/sis.... King Ashoka ruled the entire indian subcontinent except major parts of Tamil Nadu and Kerala... That's why inscriptions are found in Karnataka... Tamil Nadu and Kerala haven't ruled by most of other states kings or dynasty bcz of Unity of Cholas,cheras and Pandyas except Marathas ,Pallavas...that too bcz they all ruled after cholas , pandyas and cheras... So Our states have been protected by these great kings....and our languages survived as oldest till now....
Tamil is oldest in the old. Still speaking.
Neither Tamil nor Sanskrit,Harappans spoke HARPIC 😁😁😁😁
😅
Archeologist have discovered inscriptions similar to that in Harappa and Mohenjadaro in Tamilnadu... So people in Indus valley were using Tamil Language... Tamil was once wide spread throughout India..
Recently in Tamil Nadu Keezhadi archeological excavations revealed many similar scripts that resemble scrips in indus. Instead of searching something like Rosetta stone in indus it can be searched in Southern vaigai (Madurai, Sivagangai, Virudhunagar, Ramanathapuram, Thirunelveli, Tutucorin districts).
Indus to vaigai: journey of civilization.... Good book.
Yes civilization starts from keeladi to indus . actually during ancient times tamils lived in the whole India.
First human civilization began from Tamil Nadu. It is proven that human civilization is 3,85,000 years old by the stone age weapons found on athirampakkam in tamilnadu. The oldest living gene is found from a person in madurai, Tamil Nadu. His name Virumandi Andi Thevar. All the known History written by whites are debunked and it is yet to be rewritten.
@@NandaKumar-tf3sj they were tribal /rakshasas that you referring . But polished tamils are originally telugus in the past till tamil got formed from telugu . It took thousands of years for this logical evolutions
@@satyanadarao9993 dumb statement, graduated from WhatsApp University. Tamil is the oldest living language in this world, dont spread your fake propaganda
Tamil is not just a language. It's part of our soul.
True ❤
Yes
Its not proved
@@indiaanalysis3536 Tamil is oldest living language
@@lovkushkumar its not proved that tamil is oldest .
Im dravidian from gondi tribe we speak dravidian language gondi and im proud of it ❤
Bhai..Sanskrit aur Tamil nahi...Pali language jada puraniii heee...😊😊😊
@@capricorn9186 bhai pali ek prakrit language hai, aur prakrit language sanskrit se ayi hai. Sabse purana language adhivasiyo ki bhasa hai. Stone age inscription. Jai bhim💙💙
Are u from chhatisgrah or telengana?
@@capricorn9186 pali came from prakrit
@@Bharatiya_Languages No brother..Prakrit came from Pali and Sanskrit language came from Prakrit.
Thanks Mohak for providing subtitles. Very informative
I'm not a Tamil speaker. I speak Hindi. But I belong to a tribal group of Kurukh Oroan people. Kurukh language is a Dravidian language.
So I respect all my Tamil friends.
❤
The Dravidian was coined by Robert Caldwell I think he is a Tamil speaker don’t you?
I am native Telugu speaker I have residence in Sri khalahasti near Chennai I strongly identify myself with “North” Indians and Sanskrit we use at least a few dozen Sanskrit words a day our greatest scholars all had associations with Sanskrit and our kings Ekshvakulu Shatavahanlu all had Sanskrit inscriptions. Gautami Putra ShataVahana (If that’s not Sanskrit I don’t know what it is) Our historical capital Vijayanagaram’s name itself has Sanskrit origin.
I once visited Chennai and as I was speaking to my family in Telugu on the road I could feel the anger of natives there I did not dare to look them in the eye but air was very heavy with xenophobia. I didn’t understand a single word of that language and everyone was speaking very fast (or so I figured) imagine the hatred Bihari migrants are getting. However I vividly remember being able to listen and understand Manmohan Singh’s speech when I was 6 years old.
Dravida is a caste of Brahmins, thats all. Don't use that word. Say "south india", "indian", "asian", e.t.c ...
Indus Valley has always fascinated me since childhood. If the language gets decoded there is so much to learn from our ancestors
They spoke Kannada. Period. Kannada pride.
A Kannada person Narayana Murthy who made Infosys has a son-in-law who became the Prime Minister of UK. Kannada pride again.
@@joshuajoshua8417 check KEEZHADI (TN) GRAFFITIS,& INDUS VALLEY CIVILIZATION GRAFFITIS,!! Most of them are same symbol!! Dude
@@avinashg4974 i don't believe they have found inscriptions yet at keezhadi. In Rakhi ghari Haryana they have discovered a burial site or a grave of two women believed to have lived some 7000 years ago. Does that mean Haryanvi is the oldest language . So chill , don't come to assumptions let the archeologists find some more clues and work without any bias.
@@adithyahkfirst check the link bro, i don't think you ever read about KEEZHADI archeological site discovery, go and check it first , compare it with indus VALLEY graffitis ok!!!
This is by far the most interesting Soch video till date. Thanks for making it.
Sanskrit or Tamil both are historical language of India
Radhe Radhe 🙏
You forgot to add Telugu
@@dhirajreddy56 Telugu, Kannadam and Malayalam came from tamil. Its due to intermixing of sanskrit with tamil after aryan migration.
@hj2711 😆😆. Learn about history of these languages and their root words.
Where to learn tell me? Which book to read
Aryan migration is a myth....@@rkthamizh7659
In Tamil Nadu, the inscriptions found in places like Adichanallur and Keezadi and the inscriptions found in places like Indus Valley and Harappa are the same Tamil language.
Sorry, keeladi is too late
Yes late comming . better . latest coming
Hi @Veerashaiva please add a reference to highlight your point.
@@veerashaivanews5375 I was expecting a research article link
You know Gerogian and Burmese scripts look very similar but have no relation to each other. What makes you think ancestors of Punjabi, Sindhi, Rajasthani, Haryanvi spoke Tamil? Harappan civilization was from 4000 BCE and Keezhadi was from 200 bce. There is no way these two are related
I'm Tamil. Whatever the language is that. We need live a cultured life, with all peace and happiness. There should be no crime, good governance, good art, no filthy politicians, god fearing people, limited population, no pollution, preserved nature and environment....and many more.
Exactly! Take the path of least Karma and work towards a world where all life on this planet are born with 0 Karma. Now that's the purpose of existence. Unfortunately, we can't teach 8 Billion people about spirituality as the essence of spirituality is to reduce population while increase individual consciousness and quality of every next generation. We live in an ultra-materialistic technological world where pollution, overpopulation, competition, selfishness, diseases, crimes, etc. are increasing. Clearly, the effect of too much quantity with below the belt quality per individual human on this planet. If we can shrink 8 Billion to less than 1 million while making every single one a highly evolved being, then that's progress towards a higher Yuga / Satya Yuga / Spiritual Golden Age.
@@corpsertag5967 thanks i finally got someone who believes in spirituality atleast if you dont believe in the almighty plz believe in karma atleast because that is the only way to sustain peace on earth and bring the satyug back but the people just slap a shit and say science is literally everything while science is the explanation of materialistic worlds religion is something which science cant prove so now the job is yours to believe or not to believe...
So Are You Living What Way .................... Today.
South Indians Don't Have Filthy Politicians. They are All God.
Pollution & Population Less
And TN cm doing cultural genocide of Hindus
You are right... Language is just a way of communicating your thoughts to other person...... They serve no purpose other than this.....
and anyways Sanskrit is said to be given to humans by LORD SHIVA and Tamil by LORD MURUGAN (kartikeya) so there is no difference....... Both languages are equally precious to us.....
Tamil is the oldest living language and the first ever language spoken by first man on this earth. I am proud to be a tamil speaking person , it has lot of values which are more precious.
Sanskrit is older 😂😂😂
@@sumitsharma4706boring try something better
Why you have Arab name then???
Lol
@@ssm7593 and why does it bother you? You had also written your name in English. Grow up bud
Thank you for sharing this insightful video.
As an medical student i had a deep interest in politics and history but due to parents pressure i took it.
Neverthless i have used your videos and books to start my passion for politics and history.
Nice
Same bhai mereko bhi parents se doctor banne ka pressure hai par mere ko geopolitics aur history kafi interest ha
Iss liye rajkumar hirani ne 3 idoit banaya aur aaj log usee boycott kr rhe hai actor ko ek movie ki bajiss
@@utkarshbhosle7037 kya kahe un unpad logo ko bhai
Same here
Bhot maasta informative video... Thanks for great efforts👌🏻🍫🙏✌️
Tamil is speak around the world but sanskrit 🧐. Oldest tamil is can't understand in tamil speaker, but they know the letters. Tamil is three kind of parts to speak hard, soft, middle using tongue. ❤ my tamil. I am from Tamilnadu india🇮🇳 🥰🥰. Don't lose your originality.
India was and always will be land of culture
Are u a man of culture then 😜
It's in Pakistan.
So it's the History of Pakistan.
India was Borned on 15 August 1947.
Pakistanis( Esp Sindhis and Punjabis are Fathers of Today's Indians)
(Respect Your Ancestors 🇵🇰👍🏻 )
@UCbBt-XBF9RBMakKq6zAuHWg don't explain anything to them...they lack the capacity to understand anything.
@@kingafridi-Separatist7777 lol Pakistan was made on religion and that religion itself is 1400 years old😂 while India or Hindustan or Bharat this words has history of 3500 years😂
India grain independence on other hand Pakistan was created, solve ur identity crisis first than come here
@@pc-hyperzone526 Hinduism is atleast 5-7 thousand years old my friend
The fish symbol is prominent during Chola periods too. And its the exact same symbol too. Very plausible when Indus Valley going through major draught they went ventured deep south and put up root and cultured Tamizh. Fascinating.
I appreciate this fellow on the content and did fairly good research that I must say.
In some parts of Afghanistan people still speak language which is similar to Dravidian language mainly Tamil. There are enough videos on TH-cam regarding this.
Pls don't mention dravidam.
its true
Even in Balochistan
They are Not Afghanistani, they are Pakistanis and they speak Brahui, which is a remnant of the Harappan culture. Brahui programming in Pakistan is broadcast by PTV Bolan (i.e. Meluha) and the modern day words Beluha, Beluhi, Brahui, Beluchi are all allomorphs of the ancient word Meluha and today it is the name the Pakistani province of Beluchistan.
@@karthikjk3187 😆 there’s some smart people still active. In the name of Dravidian some odd ones are trying to demolish Tamils and Tamil language.
Wow - Amazing Script and Research - Well Explained and Graphics too - KUDOS team.
hai anna
*Sanskrit is Language & Sankrit was written in Devnagari Script generally at that time.*
*People confuse that Devnagari Script & Sanskrit are same.🤦 Sanskrit can be written in any Language.*
*Ex: I will written "संस्कृत" in Roman Script == Sanskrit.*
@@Peace-tl1ll same goes for every languages right,
@@Peace-tl1ll bullshit
@@hemanthkrishnan8108 no
Man I love watching infotainment videos like this.
I think you are doing quite well.
. content of videos are top notch...🙏🙏
Bro talk about keeladi excavation which tells tamil civilization older than 4500 years ago
Love from Tamilnadu❤️
Sinauli civilization older than tamil in uttar pradesh
@@ARVINDYADAV-cu9sd yeah 👌👌👌
@@ARVINDYADAV-cu9sd 😅😅😅😅
@@ARVINDYADAV-cu9sd No disrespect.sinauli is only 2500 to 2900 years old..whereas keezhadi is much older..Also As per Tamil literary works, Tamil was the first spoken language and was created by Lord Shiva..In all Temple he is called Shiva - the ruler of southern country
@@rams9257 madrasi Sinauli is 4500 years old. It's backed by research paper. Even your name is in Sanskrit 😝😂
I recommend you to go through archeological proof which found in Keeladi in Tamilnadu state where the same script was avaible. It may be useful for your further understanding about this issues.
Plz make a video on it
Then decode the script lol
@@CountingStars333 Maybe its not a Rosetta stone
LOL, variation of that script found throughout India not just in keeladi alone.
LIVING BEING IS OUR RACE, MANKIND IS OUR RELIGION, HINDU,MUSLIM,SIKH,CHRISTAIN, THERE IS NO SEPARATE RELIGION
ALMIGHTY GOD KABIR is the father of all souls that JESUS, MOHAMMAD, GURU NANAK, VEDH was telling in BIBLE, QURAN, GURU GRANTHA SAHEB
.. In OLD Orthodox Jewish Bible KABIR is mentioned...KABIR means (GREAT or MIGHTY GOD) in hebrew...but when translated in different languages translator removed KABIR word...
With this video I subscribed after viewing your videos for long time. Exceptionally well researched and well-presented video. You share knowledge like expert professors from well renowned universities. Good job Mohak.
Good job ❤
It's a deep concept; the railway track story is there in the NCERT books of social studies (history) of class 6. Because a class 6 student is just a kid.. they don't understand much of these things and hence they cram it somehow to get good marks and forgets most of the part when they enter their next class. I always think that this topic should be for the higher classes like 9th or 10th as it is nothing more than a burden for a class 6 student.
I always thought that ncert is a very deep thinking book no other reference book can replace.
@@sanjiv5974 it is indeed .. but this particular topic is too deep for a class 6 kid to understand.
@@physicss6696 When I was in class 6th or 7th my teacher just give me notes and i mug them but now I realising that instead of mugging If I had enjoyed history then it would have become more fun
I remember reading that railway track story when I was in 6th . I loved history very much .
Unfortunately I'm not among like those. Ever since the first day I learnt about INDUS VALLEY CIVILISATION in class 6 I still can't forget about it and now I'm class 11.
My strong suggestion is to do research in Tamilnadu and surrounding sea area to understand all this scripture. Because the people who speaks Tamil are lived in the India and Tamil have contributions in the many of today's languages.
He did research, that's how he made this video. And why should he "surrender" his sea area?
@@jibran4794 Not surrender . "Surrounding sea area".
Haris ul humam... There is a Utube video ." Cameroonian Tribe speak Tamil." Cameroon is a North Central African Country. Acc. to it Tamil Race originated from Cameroon.
So that can be researched and contributed to other findings. { my views are layman's}
@@prophet1782 how did they the indigenous people migrate from Africa to that part of India.? If they came via central India. They would have settled in indus river first. But if tamil settlers were first settlers the indigenous that's what I believe then how did they migrate from Africa as homo sapiens?
@@frenchvanilla7480 You got a good point there too. Going back 1000s of yrs nothing can be 100% sure. Do you know where Fiji is ? Have a good look on the map. The natives in Fiji and many other Pacific Islands are Africans. Why didn't they settle in Australia or so many other places on the way to Fiji.? It only makes sense that Tamils originated from Cameroon. Otherwise why and how would a primitive Tribe in Cameroon speak Tamil.?? Don't be dogmatic about your views. Be flexible and reasonable.
Your presentation with a very polite and soft way is awesome dear baba
Tamil language is also the language of Hinduism. The literature of the Sangam period is purely Hindu literature. It was the Hindus who wrote the Tamil grammar during the Sangam period. Even in the middle ages, Shaivism and Vaishnavism were promoted by Tamil saints. Tamil kings chola, chera , pandaya etc. Challenging Buddhism, spread Hinduism back to India.
Better say Saivam
and vainavam, not Hinduism
Also before that Buddham and Samanam
@@Joseph-yu4lx Shaiv, vaishnav, shakya all are part of the same sanatani culture and later it got popular as the name of Hindu ,Hindu name got popular cause of Persian invasion but it was called as Vaidik dharm before
"Rakhal das banerjee" was a Legend
He also discovered "Karnasubarna", which was mentioned as "Bengal's first capital" in a book by "Hyun en sang" (Chinese philosopher and traveler)
King Sashank (600 AD)
King Shashanka from the Gauda Kingdom was in around 600AD and not 1400AD.
And Chinese Traveller Hieun Tsang visited India in 637AD.
@@challenger539 I said 1400AD before 🤦🏻
Take opposite, it's 600 AD
@@Who_09 roychowdhury surname holder ra asolei cute ho..u have proven it 😊
I am working on decoding the Indus Valley script
Where is karnasubarna dada……. Murshidabad ???????? Waise kisi bhi Bengali Hindu kings ka koi dhang ka capital or fort nahi mila aur Gor jo bahut time tak capital thi waha aaj ke time mostly Muslim sites hai.
The Baloch people of Pakistan's Balochistan province speak the Dravidian language Brahui, their language contains Tamil words such as “Ne” (You), Pal (Milk), and Baa (Come) and besides, the old names of most of Pakistan's ancient cities are Tamil names.
Oh! Really?😲
Not Tamil words but they are Dravidian speakers
@@rtam7097 Journey of a Civilization: Indus to Vaigai by R.Balakrishnan, I.A.S.
@@Aasiefkhan Journey of a Civilization: Indus to Vaigai by R.Balakrishnan, I.A.S.
Bro baa kannada word not tamil
another great video with logical reasoning and proper research
EVERY ONE IN THE WORLD KNOWS OLDEST CIVILIZATION IS THAMIZH, SANSKRIT WAS CREATED BY THAMIZH SIDDHAR, HINDUS AND HINDUISM IS A COPY OF THAMIZH AASEEVAGAM NOT JUST HINDU ANY RELIGION IS BASED ON THAMIZH WAY OF LIFE AASEEVAGAM LATER TRANSFORMED INTO SAIVAM, ALL OTHERS HERE ARE TRYING TO CREATE FAKE EVIDENCE
Tamil is the mother of all languages ... linguistic scholars have discovered that there are more than 2000 Tamil words found in Korean and Japanese languages with the same meaning ... There are alot of similarities between the languages spoken by the aboriginals of Australia, macau and New Zealand and some parts of Africa and Tamil and many Asian languages has Tamil words mixed in them. Infact, the earliest existing grammer book for Tamil language, is Tholkappiyam which was written 500BC and the author, Tholkappiyar mentions in that book that he worries about the lose of many ancient Tamil words as they are consumed by time. So even 2,500 years ago Tamil language had ancient words that made Tholkappiyar worried about those words being lost in time.
@BumKaGola Well there is nothing to laugh about. You can fact check what i have mentioned ...
Yes He also mentioned that He took notes from some other written works done before a long period of time From sage Asastiya
Tamil language is also the language of Hinduism. The literature of the Sangam period is purely Hindu literature. It was the Hindus who wrote the Tamil grammar during the Sangam period. Even in the middle ages, Shaivism and Vaishnavism were promoted by Tamil saints. Tamil kings chola, chera , pandaya etc. Challenging Buddhism, spread Hinduism back to India.
Sanskrit is mother of all language kid😂😂
@@stone-xl2nl check out munbe vaa by A.R. Rahman
Iam from Tamil Nadu
I really understand your pain in collecting enormous data and giving us in a interesting and in a essence form...I really appreciate your fabulous work... Keep u ur good job bro👌✌️👍🙏💗💗💗💗...Jai Hind
Tamils become Black Mamba😂
@@amarkumar3359 atleast he wrote jai hind leave him
@@amarkumar3359then what about you pani puri beggers 😂
@@amarkumar3359better than having bad smell 💀💀💀
Qudos to you for your work. !! Thank you.
This is so cool
I remember studying about this civilisation in history, and it always fascinated me what great heights its people achieved that time. This video brought back those memories!
Indus people followed no religion .
there is more to uncover about this civilisation. its quite unknown compared to egypt and sumer sadly
Sangam Literatures are the oldest literature in Tamil Language the Mother of Dravidian Languages but
Sangam itself is a Sanskrit word ....
According to solid evidences and not claims
We have found that Telugu is the oldest Dravidian Language .
Cholas were definitely Hindus because they were shiva devotes.
There is no Caste System in Basics of Hinduism as it is used today because
even Ramayan was written by Valmiki
a Dalit Caste .
தமிழ்
तामिल
Look at the E ki matra in Both Languages isnt it common ??
कार्तिक
கார்த்திக்
Look at the 1st and last character they look similiar
Mohak Its more complex than we think it is
I agree...when he said Mesopotamia...I was like oohhh I learnt this in 7 th standard, how they were related and all
Our teacher once taught us about how they even had covered drains and how all their houses and roads were built in alignment...
I was fascinated by this
Few inscriptions in Keezhadi (Tamil Nadu) matches exactly the characters in Harappan tablets. Though more research needed, its worth mentioning.
Harrappa langauge is a dravidian langauge
Even some gondi tribe group uses some harrppa languges for ages
All the triblas are native and dravidian of this country
Keezadi excavation has lots of dk dmk groups influence trying to bring leftist version story to destroy Hinduism.
It’s not Dravidian correct it’s ancient Tamil.. we r very happy the tamilnadu government spending money to extend excavation in keeladi site when central govt refused to give money..more than 7 years lot of finding includes the fifth soil settlement revealed in first time in Indian history signs similar to Indus Valley. We r jus couple of more years away to prove it
Your mordern tamil is not same as ancient dravidian
@Digvijay Patil please dont simply throw your opinion on what you read on internet. People have done research on them for decades and written books on them. The best you could do read them and be satisfied....
Great job
The script is earlier tamil code. The same script were found in tamilnadu keeladi and kodumanal in kongu Nadu region. The Harappan seal that you shown in this video are perfectly match with kongu velala community,. Kangayam cattle. We worship cow as a holy one. A part of family. The tamil literature has enormous proof that the Indus valley civilization were part of tamils.
A book written by indus valley civilization from indus to vaigai - dr.balakrishnan ias.
East or west, tamils India's civilization best
Bro, well said... & True too.
Your comment goes unnoticed because you are talking about & for Tamilnadu.
Your recommendation is good..
But praising a particular area leaves the other states of people goes wrong notions..
There is vice versa,, you are saying like child give birth to father,,
You are right sir....
@@sharmajikaladkahub
Proud to say Tamizh is my mother language. And a proud Indian❤
Can we just appreciate the hardwork the creator did to gather up all this knowledge
Hats off ⚡
Most of the information is available in Wikipedia.. plus in the end it was just speculation
I got the same information from Dhruv Rathee video. It's a copycat script.
@@animeshmaji4779 him nd dhruv both copycat it from a TED video which is 11 years old
कोई research नहीं किया है अलग अलग लोगों के वक्तव्यों को लेकर अपने वीडियो में बोल दिया l
और वो जिसे बौद्ध स्तूप बता रहे हैं वह अनाज भंडारण कक्ष है I
It is just a fake propaganda nothing was collected and presented.. He shud have spoke about adhichanallur from TN where excavation is going on and found many things way past Harrappan civilization
There is a seal from jallikattu indus valley... Indus valley civilization is 100% connect with tamil...
Then same u can connect the Rakhigarhi site with haryana. The people still follow similar traditions.
@@anirudh2704 nope you're comparing thousands of years of difference
Aryan invaded India rig Veda and manusmriti is the proof don't lie Pani Puri s.dna matches with irula Tamil Tribes
@@anirudh2704 there was a news in2018 that. Does Rakhigarhi skeleton DNA confirm Dravidian ancestry or reignite Aryan invasion debate?
The Indus Valley people consisted many groups. The first fact to know that it was a settlement of groups of people. The nucleus of the group was trading community from Tamilnadu. Together with them were their supporters dependents and technicians and artisans.
The region consisted northwest regions also. People who found convenient continued there. So still you can find the descendants north of Gujarat following urban culture as Indus people.
Tamil was the original language of Harappa civilization. Sanskrit is derived from Arebian language.
Not really no proof of that
Gumari gandam Dumeelian creating hos own fairytale😂😂
Your videos are just amazing and very knowledgeable brother.
I've started to watching your video all the times. You got one more subscriber 😄.
Keep It Up 👍
Vande Matram 🙏
You could have also specified the present archeological activities going on in Tamilnadu (keeladi and aadichanallur) to find the same
I also just suggested the same thing...nice to know that you also thought the same 🙌🏻🙌🏻
This is just an agenda based channel. I used to think high about mohak but it looks like I was wrong. This is just an half baked info and he is trying to convince Sanskrit should be the first language
Best joke of the century
Also unsubscribed the channel 😁😁😁😁
@@jacaar2653 he never said sanskrit and IVC were same language stop your bs 🙂🙂
@@jacaar2653 what do you convince Tamil is the first language. 😂 .. Lol
Recently I came to know, there is a river flowing in Northern Azerbaijan 🇦🇿 name of the river is very similar to one of the rivers of Tamilnadu. That is Damirabaran (Thamiraparani in Tamilnadu)
Their language is similar to parsi and turkey. Similar doesnt mean it has to be from our language. They could say the same
@@TheIndemir This is Called Vayitherichal
@@Vijayakumar_V_Kannan 💯fact
@@TheIndemir vandhu ombu
@@Vijayakumar_V_Kannan😂
We should appreciate how brilliantly he made the promotion of Scaler without diverting from the subject
I'm tamilan I love Tamil . But every state people need to talk his mother tongue . Don't forget ur mother and mother tongue
Mysteries are everywhere...
This will resolve soon till then no more fighting on Tamil or sanskrit,both are our languages..
Peace✌️
There is good evidence that the language was an Austroasiatic language, like munda, etc.
@@alecpayne4503 There's good evidence supporting every viable language for the Harappan language. That's why it's indecisive till date.
Sanskrit is NOT Indian. It's an old Persian language. U may ask any Iranian. Aryans brought this Sansrit to india nd used Devanagari script for their writing.
Now Aryans (like u) DO NOT want the Indians (sons of the soil) to know that Aryans brought sanskrit to india. Becos that will enlighten the native Indians nd u r afraid that u will lose ur dominion over India.
@@reefathkumarmittagadapa7275 in vedas ,
Sanskriti was language of Jammu deep.
And Jammu deep is today Asia and more .
So , that time Iran and india is same boundary.
And this not till prof properly that Aryans where come ?
Historical has mixed opinion.
A new civilization found in arab that 8000years old .
Where yag places found .
Means , in future people say Aryans was from arab 🤣.
I think Aryans was from india and go world time to time .
And come back in India with new race and environment.
@@reefathkumarmittagadapa7275 AIT (Aryan Invasion Theory) is never mentioned in any of the Tamizh literature. I would go one step above. Here are some indicators from Sangam literature (and Tholkappiam, which is the oldest available grammar book in Thamizh).
NOTE: As per the current definition anything related to Hinduism and Sanskrit are termed as Aryans, specifically Brahmins. Let us keep this in mind while interpreting the following.
No mention of River Sindhu (Indus) anywhere in Sangam literature. If Indus Valley Civilization (IVC) was populated with Dravidians, who were driven down south by invading Aryans, there would’ve been some reference to the river and surrounding areas. Sangam literature is suspiciously quiet about it
Tholkappiam talks about 4 divisions in the society (Porulathikaram, Puraththinai iyal, line 74 onwards). This is not an Aryan/Vedic import as some people claim. In fact the book even talks about the waterpot etc. carried by Brahmins (Porulathikaram, Marabiyal, line 615).
Several poems in Sangam literature talk about kings performing Vedic sacrifices (like Pathitruppaththu poem 64 and 70. Puranaanooru Poem 166, Puranaanooru poems 16, 125, 367, and 377 about a Chozha king who performed Rajasuya Yagna…. the list is endless).
One Sangam poem (Puranaanooru poem #2, praising a Chera king) claims that while he didn’t participate in the Mahabharatha war, but fed both sides of the army. Leaving aside the validity of the claims, this is a proof that the Itihasas (Ramayana and Mahabharatha) were very well known during Sangam period. If these were the invader Aryan’s epics, why would Sangam poets praise them and would like to identify with them?
Essentially ‘Dravida’ and ‘Arya’ were words used to denote certain ethnicity. Nowhere it is mentioned that Aryans were outsiders. Both the Itihasas (Ramayana and Mahabharatha) talks about Thamizh kings highly. Ramayana mentions only Pandiyas (Kishkinda Kanda, Chapter 41) because it is the older Itihasa and Tamizhnadu was ruled only by Pandiyas then. Mahabharatha talks about Pandiyas ( and Chozhas. In fact, Pandiya king fought along with Pandavas and was rated as a Maharathi.
EDITS:
Updated the answer with references
As expected there were comments related to some war between Indra and Dasyus in Rig Veda etc. For a long time Vedas have been wrongly translated by people with vested interests and we have been repeatedly fed with this information. There are several alternate (/fair) translations available for the same where people have explained that this war doesn’t mean an Aryan / Dravidian conflict. In any case, the same Vedas have been praised by Sangam literature, which is a proof that they didn’t consider it as an Aryan-Dravidian conflict.
Credits where due, this is an incredibly well produced video. The research, the animation, the stylized typography... good going.
*Sanskrit is Language & Sankrit was written in Devnagari Script generally at that time.*
*People confuse that Devnagari Script & Sanskrit are same.🤦 Sanskrit can be written in any Language.*
*Ex: I will written "संस्कृत" in Roman Script == Sanskrit*
You could never see so much love and passion towards a language unless you are in Tamilnadu❤
Problem of all epigraphist is they concluded the writing direction is right to left. But actually those were stamping stones , where once stamped with dye , it’ll appear left to right .
Correction at 13:04 - Arumin refers to Krittika but the figure shown is incorrect. The figure shows Saptarishi, while Kritika is Pleiades
@@Vedantindian2012 he was comparing it to Dravidian languages, nevertheless it’s not the case so doesn’t matter if it’s anu min or min anu
@@shantanu9099 That's the problem some months ago an Indian researcher Bahata ansumali mukopadhyay claims that she decipher the language by saying that it is related to tamil word pilu which means elephant tooth but the Sindhu saraswati civilization scripts isn't deciphered yet then how she make those claims when researchers listen her claim they were so stupid like she trying every word to correlate with Tamil so Tamil historians wants to connect every word of Harappan civilization to Tamil
@@Yashpromax yeah I think there are biases everywhere. People from north India claim Sanskrit and South Indians claim tamil. This bias is very evident in aryan theories as well. Some say aryans came to India, and some say absolute crazy stuff like the OIT. The best we can do is see all claims are pick the most evident ones.
@@shantanu9099 Aryan invasion theory is false it is proved now I guess a research paper is coming on this by ASI soon about the Genetics of the flow of F haplogroup which leads the origin of R haplogroup and M haplogroup R1a1 DNA is the descendant of that and so on R1b also which is present in more than 90% of males across globe outside Africa and F haplogroup is developed in India so we will soon find whether OIT is true or not but yes AIT is false because another evidence is that there is no evidence of any warrior clan moving from central Asia to any parts of the world archaheologists doesn't find any kind of weapons so they're not sure if any migration occurs from central Asia so now they're claiming it happens from western Iran previously and now they are stating no it occurs from east of the Iran so we will know whether it was from Iran or India
@@Yashpromax Aryan "Invasion" theory is wrong, however the aryans did migrate and ghere is ample evidence of that. Even the indus valley people were constant connections with people from what called iraq and iran today. So to say there were no connections made in ancient times is ridiculous. Even ashok's father married the greek princess of the Greco-bactria kingdom.
And the OIT is bullshit.
You may not know, but Tamil scholars have been decoding them. And similar codes have been found as inscriptions all over Tamil Nadu. Certainly the codes are Tamil.
They are actually not Tamil, they are Brahui, a North Dravidian language and remnant of the Harappan culture.
@@user-zv8js6wt2y screw up the Dravidian theory which was formed up to destroy tamil
@@user-zv8js6wt2y True.
How can u say a small minority language can be the base of all dravidian languages? Instead of cultural hotspot with even 3rd sangam era dating back to 600 BCE Tamils ? BS
@@jeyaramsathees6128 Of all dravidian languages which had common roots the modern south Indian languages flourished most branching out from Tamil
Sir you are a gem of a person, utmost respect to you from Pakistan
Very interesting
It is against the Tamil language that rules India and that is the problem here... I am a Tamilian, loves all Indian language brothers... ❤️
Kannada sanskrit ?
@@soumyadipmukherjee6627telugu??
It's Harappan
Usually Tamil names ends with "an"
Example: north india it's "Ram" "shiv"
Middle india till andhra pradesh it's "Rama" "Shiva"
But in Tamilnadu it is "Raman" "Shivan"
It is also called Harappa civilization
Arutpa nagaram... Harappa
Moham sidhara ... Mohenjadaro
Its actually harappa but English people added suffix an to harappa then it becomes harappan
Harappan civilization is a English term not tamil 🤣🤣🤣
@@dilip83kumar normally an is added to make a word (noun) an adjective: Harappa- Harappan civilization.Sumer- Sumerian culture etc., Many more examples can be given.
Excellent revealations of ancient civilization
Brother, we are too happy and appreciate your great effort to reveal all the truth of the history with beautiful editing too. But we have one request, please try to upload the english version or the video if possible , because it may be very useful for the people who do not understand hindi. Even though you provide a substitute, if you provide english video it will be so effective.
I like the way in which he's introducing ad. without ruining the fluency of video 🙏❤️
You may also explore about Keezhadi excavation site (Keeladi) in Tamil Nadu.
Nice explanation
👍nice video
Wow everything well explained mohak 🔥🔥
Mohak's videos are really informative and well researched. Keep up the good job!
As a proud indian . It's a win-win . Sanskrit or Tamil .. it'll prove that indian civilization is wayy older than people give credit to .
Yess bro indus civilization is the oldest civilization which cannot be denied
If they speak tamil, then why don't it mean that Hinduism was not followed by them?
it is, idk why the separation is being made? Perhaps 'cos Southern states have preserved Hindu tradition better than North India did.
The divide shouldn't even exist.
Tamil is the oldest language and we already have inscription in latest escavation in Tamilnadu
Mastermind Hidden Background Agenda of DMK and its Allies are:
1. DMK n SP n NC kind of parties wants to continue Britain's Royal-Model-Dynasty-Builder's Politics, even if there is Transformation that Dynasty or Kingship kind of rule which has been rejected since 50 years Globally.
2. Mentally of TN are changing.
DMK mentality is 100 yerar old concept of Tamil language and fooling Tamilnadu People .
In future, the people will rule themselves by changing the new government as trends is changing.
Sanskrit Mantra are still used during thier puja at home and temples.
People respect Sanskrit Mantra I.e. especially even non Brahmins respect Sanskrit Mantra but DMK doesn't respect Sanskrit n Hindi.
Current trend is that People are recognizing the games of DMK as it is exposed.
3. Erode Venkatappa Ramasamy / Periyar and Dravidians movement has been exposed as he was completely SOLD-OUT TO BRITISH.
EV Ramaswamy became rich because of British.
And his Justice Party is getting insignificant for today world.
Currently DMK changing a lot slowly - some good governance during inception of DMK towards to recent SCAMS n Evil governance n Pseudo Secularism and Christian Missionaries.
4. Because of EVR, Brahmins are completely ignored similarly Majority community is ignored to some extent. Muslim n Christian have been given importance.
Now these ignored Brahmins n Majority will merge with deprived Hindu and Transformation the possibilities. So there is new work around happening.
This will happen within 2 or 3 decades. Not 5 decades.
6. What about Indian Ethos and Indian culture and nature.
DMK wanted to kill it but giving importance to Communists n Muslim n Christian.
Is this our own Ethos n ethnicity is lowest than these Christian Missionaries n Muslim missionaries.
7. Why do you think that Communists n Communism n Marxism can be successful in a Democratic Nation with Bharatiya's values n Ethos.
DMK CANNOT demolish our culture n nature n Fabrics of our nation 🤔.
8. Communists n Capitalism n Marxism always plays double game.
Ther Communists means mastermind hidden Communism .
How can they influence Tamilnadu part of world when world has recognized the values.
These Communists influence is just small term not Millenniums.
These people are simply dancing that they will open a new religion of Communism.
Recent since 30 years globely Most of Communism has failed and most of the Communist nations have rejected because these Communists use Communism themselves. Why so.
Few people still think Communist's Communism will flourish.
These few people are dancing by mixing Communism n Dravidianism with Christian Missionaries. This game will be exposed and will be exploded like a bomb.
Just wait n see for a decade time. This is the real trend for next decade .
DMK + CONGRESS had utter failure during DMK governance itself.
There are many thousands of failures have been hidden by DMK.
Once these thousands of failures get exposed, DMK power will be Weakened completely and DMK will be Sinking ship of Tamilnadu similar to Communists in West Bengal.
DMK fears 😨 loosing power completely.
1. Just like BJP won the 2019 election by winning people heart of West Bengal.
2. Stalin don't have leadership as much as Karunananidhi who had Cunningly dangerous leadership.
3. Stalin son Udhayanidhi Stalin will be Similar to Rahul Gandhi.
4. Stalin is much more weak personality than his father.
5. Dmk involved in so many Scams n Financial fruad during the Tenure of UPA govt.
6. They support other nations policies like Marxism n Leninism n Communism n Christian Missionaries n Muslim missionaries n others unwanted other nations ideology.
7. Dmk is dead against Educational reform.
8. DMK is dead against other languages except English n Urdu and it's people.
They don't have leadership Qualities so they fear 100 percent.
Today's DMK is most polluted with corruption n money minded monsters 👻
DMK n SP n NC n RJD parties n other parties are following Britain's Royal-Dynasty-Builder's Political MODEL. WHY SO.
Compare Britain's Royal-Dynasty-Builder's Politics Vs Family Politics.
Britain's Royal-Dynasty-Builder's Politics is completely Hegemony n Nepotism and continue King n Queen kind of Politics not the Democracy or Democratic elections.
DMK, CONGRESS, NC, SP, RJD, JDS, Etc wants to follows Royal model of Dynasty-Builder-Politics.
1. Royal-Dynasty-Builder's politics is a COPYCAT policies of Britain Kings n Queen Politics.
Do we need to copy them. Why so.
2. Family Politics (Nation First Policy) is NOT = Royal-Dynasty-Builder's Politics (ROYAL-DYNASTY-FIRST-POLITICS just like Britain kingdoms).
Now Let me explain,
Royal-Dynasty-Builder's Politics follows Hegemony, Nepotism, Dictatorship that their Children n Grandchildren has to get the position by Dictatorship, even if NOT ELIGIBLE as a TRUE LEADER like Rahul Gandhi n Stalin n Omar Abdulla n Akilesh Yadav. Lalu sons. Devegowda's Grand son. Erc
These KIDS n grand kids are Undemocratically elected .
Sheikh Abdulla. Motilal Neharu n Neharu Dynast followed Britain's policies like Hegemony, Nepotism, Evil Politics with Dynasty-First Policies, instead of Nation-First Policy.
More example of Royal-Dynasty-Builder's Politics is a Evil Politics are Sample DYNASTY-FIRST-POLITICS are as follows :
SHEIKH Abdullah and Grand sons, Malayalam Singh Yadav and Grand Sons, Karunanidhi and Grand Sons, Deve Gowda and Grand Sons, Lalu Prasad Yadav and awaiting Grand sons , etc.
Have determined to become Royal-Dynasty-Builder's Politics (Thet Have Crossed Family politics).
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Family politics is giving opportunity to theirs children with eligibility n Progress democratic election.
For Eg., Engineer son can be Engineer. Politician's kid is eligible for Political position as much as parent. Etc.
Family Politics with Nation first Policy which is much better than Dynasty Builder politics - which they say opposite of it.
Family is Not as much dangerous as much as Britain's Royal-Dynasty-Builder's polics , Dynasty-First-policy Politics
So Family politics is acceptable But Not Britain's Royal-Dynasty-First Politics just like Moti Lal Neharu Dynasty politics.
Family politics are Not dangerous Examples are like Patnaik family, Pawar, TRS family, Ambarish family, etc.
++++ Dangerous Results are ++++
Is it not a Political Evil thinking on Bharat Ratna Awards. ?
Indira a non freedom fighter was Awarded before Freedom fighter, the list as follows.
Year 1971, Indira Gandhi
Year 1975, VV GIRI.
Year 1983, Vinoba Bhave
Year 1990, Ambedkar
Year 1991, Vallabhai Patel
Year 1992, JRD Tata,
Year 1992, Abdul Kalam Azad
Year 1997, Aruna Asaf Ali a Freedom fighter.
Year 1997, APJ Abdul Kalam
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Rajiv Gandhi was awarded before Abdul Kalam Azad, JRD TATA, Aruna Asaf Ali, APJ ABDUL KALAM. etc.
It's official facts n reality of conspiracies executed by Congress's First Dynasty.
Most of the media n journalists never ever questioned this. They were sold out to Congress's first Dynasty
3. Britain's Royal-Dynasty-Builder's Politics are Evil Politics as it has policies like Hegemony, Nepotism, Evil-Democracy, Arrogantly dominant, etc.
Eg of many samples = They forced the commercialisation of agriculture with the growing of various cash crops and the raw materials for the industries in the Britain. etc.
Summary:
DMK has been doing all sorts of things which currently people have slowly changing. Dmk is full of Scams n Corrupt activities and also copycat of Westerns Ideas 💡 and Britain's Royal-Dynasty-Builder's Politics highly Dangerous than Family politics.
DMK is going to be Sinking ship in next decade.
Sanskrit is
Proof??? 😂
@@ShinNouzenngo learn some history and then reply
your work is really appreciable bro....tqs to u and u r entire team for bringing up this information to all of us.
Wakeup to the reality our Sanskrit is called dev bhasha which means language of gods
First of all you wake-up...🤣🤣🤣
@@dontwasteyourtime4957 why are you laughing are u mad ?
संस्कृतं मम आत्मानं निवसति
Thanks Sir. Great.
Jay Bheem Namo Buddhaye, Jay SAMVIDHAN ☸️
mohak has fantastic story telling and his video skills have also become good ! hope to see your channel grow further
👌🏻🎉You are doing awesome work, Mohak. I am so happy to see young people like you endeavoring to teach culture. English subtitles are very helpful too. This will really enrich the cultural education I am striving to give my kids. It is really hard to achieve that as a Sanatana Dharmi living in US.
That is invaluable service you are providing to humanity💕💕
Keep up the great work 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Please fix the spelling of ಕನ್ನಡ at timestamp of around 12:31. It is written incorrectly.
Language spoken by Indus people was Gondi language which is the mother of all Dravidian languages including Tamil. Gondi scholars have done some serious study of Harappan script and deciphered many many tablets.
Really waiting for this video thanks you mohak 😇
In Keeladi, written old Tamil script is carbon dated to 2600 BCE which makes that Tamil at-least 4622 years old. So which is the older, original language?
Sanskrit is 13000 years old. Tamil is derived from prakrit.
@@CoolMan-jh1rr actually sanskrit is evolved from prakrit and Iranian language....tamil has sperate script which 4k years while sanskrit is 2k years old so don't blabber
@@nightshade7724 stop being stupid, sanskrit is mother of all indo European languages. Tamil is only 2300 years old and sanskrit is atleast 4000 years old. Go study history stop making up hypothesis. Iranian itself is derived from the word Aryan. Tamil script is derived from brahmi script and Sanskrit sages thought grammar to tamil people in sangam era. Before Sangam age tamil akkam remained in stone age(Megalithic age).
@@nightshade7724 I think so ☝🏼! You are correct
@@nahibatauunga sorry it's not sanskrit is called indo Aryan language...it's a language which is brought by the Aryans during Aryan invasion ....hebrew is older than Sanskrit approximately 5.5k years old older than Sanskrit and its shares the relation with tamil not sanskrit... sanskrit is a mixed language of tamil Arabic and Latin ....in other words tamil is older than Sanskrit...and it's not mother of all languages..it's the language of dead
Looks like I will have to continue my ml course lol
For people wondering: In Machine Learning, We create a "model" using programming languages (python is widely used) and then train that model using a big and understandable data set. After the model has acquired the knowledge form the data, it is tested using the remaining data (80% for training 20% for testing).
ChatGPT is also a machine learning and natural language processing model.
Keezhadi archeological research will show answer for it. We are waiting for many update. Thank you
Indus Valley and the cases around it is so fascinating. I hope that someday someone or even I, myself can solve this mystery.
No Not at all no One knows
Yeah but the problem is the timeline doesn’t match with Hindu mythology like Ramayan and Mahabharata are way older than that so because of that all the theory are negligible
@@humanityfirst4538 no man knew Harappan existed until it was found.
@@sameergupta553 because stupid bollywood ruined original history story with fake story in mahabharat
*Sanskrit is Language & Sankrit was written in Devnagari Script generally at that time.*
*People confuse that Devnagari Script & Sanskrit are same.🤦 Sanskrit can be written in any Language.*
*Ex: I will written "संस्कृत" in Roman Script == Sanskrit*
Thanks for your Unbiased and Scientific review on this matter.
Video achha laga.
it's so unbelievable to believe no violence in this civilization. As war was witnessed during Ramayan and Mahabharat
I love history with hints of mystery!😀
i read about IVC in high school, back then nothing was decoded about the script, it was completely mysterious and the popular assumption was we probably would never know anything about the script but few years ago i came across Rajesh Rao's Ted talk where he explained how they figured out that the script actually represented a language and not just symbols and it was decoded that the script was actually written from right to left. I was so fascinated by these new breakthrough and this has reignited my hope that one day we may finally decode everything about that ancient civilization.
Thanks for making a video on thiss and your animations are great 👍
Are you from Nagaland?
00:09 my son saved me today?
02:50 he said tools and not weapons, kudos to the script writer, because Indus Valley is the only civilization that was peaceful among other civilizations we know till date.
Legend waiting for time machine 😂