Damn, that was a GREAT review. Most reviews i watched about this controller looked like from people that used the controller for only 15 minutes. Really appreciate that you showed how the DPAD is bad, and how the sticks have friction with the plastic. I think i will pay a little more and get the 8bitdo ultimate blutooth. I wish you had reviewed that one too haha but seens like a good controller
After using the Gamesir G7 SE, I wanted a similar controller, but one that has mechanical face buttons, hall effect sticks and trigger vibration. I'm a fan of strong haptic feedback, I've found the haptics in the G7 SE to be too weak unless you sync the trigger vibration with the grip vibration. So I was worried the Kaleid wouldn't have strong haptic feedback so I decided to go with the Cyclone Pro, and I'm enjoying it so far. I dont notice the grinding sticks and I dont really use the D-pad for anything other than navigating menus, so for my own personal use case, it's a fine controller.
@@edwardtrowers6403 For me, the Kaleid is more comfortable, it's more ergonomic as it's the same shape as an OEM Xbox controller. For some reason the G7 SE causes certain cramping in my fingers, I can only assume it's the form factor. They have a version of the Kaleid with and without mechanical face buttons if that's not your thing.
Just my own experience here but I don't think the hall effect stick modules on the Cyclone are that good, to be honest. They don't feel as smooth as others on other controllers I own. And yes, the d-pad on the Cyclone is very bad. GameSir should've spent those extra 10 cents on a better d-pad.
Have you ever experienced 8bitdo d-pads or the one from T4 kaleid? I'm looking up for a precise- dpad with correct input for mostly 90s old school games. Yet, I only have experience with 3rd party cheap controllers. Would appreciate the help.
I'm always cautious to be so dramatic, but I tried removing ego from my videos a few back and it came off stale. I'd prefer to share my candid thoughts, but I do tend to lean into extremes I guess. Just my personality I suppose!
Great and deep review! What's the name and brand of the "Rainbow" controller you mention in the last part? And.. have you tested the 8bitdo Ultimate Bluetooth and the Vader 3 pro?
1. BigBigWon Rainbow 2 Pro 2. 🙈 it is the Vader 3 Pro, I said 2 by mistake. It's fantastic! 3. I have not tested the 8bitdo Ultimate yet but I want to!
The trigger vibration is amazing for example on Forza Motorsports. I can use teh vibration to feel the wheels locking up and have perfect braking without using in-game ABS. Regarding the stupidly annoying whine you get at half press, sorry to say you got a defective controller. My first one was like that, it's the electric motor getting stuck at "half" voltage for some reason. I returned it and got a second controller and its perfect now. Overall, great review :)
Seems like this controller don't have a turbo function, which is a bummer. Do you people know a controller who mimics the "dualsense" vibrations and a turbo function? I could swear these new Gamesir PC controllers had turbo function through software, but doesn't seem to be the case
Controller works with dongle on my PC however the app is total trash and does not recognize the controller 😢 so it works but no mapping... Does anybody have a fix? Or if I get it downloaded on my phone will that mapping carry over to my PC?
Gosh, I never thought it had so many negative points... I'd better stick with my g7 se, I know it works great.. btw wich are the best hall effect joystick so far now ? i have pc
Really well made review! I too prefer to not have RGB lights at all as it breaks immersion, and you are right to shame those bloatware apps, that should exist. I love how you can incense a company device and then properly destroy another device from the same company 😂 Joke aside it’s reassuring about your integrity. Would love your point of view on 8bitDo SN30 Pro/Pro 2 and Ultimate for sure, hope you can pull that out.
Ah yeah I should definitely check out the new 8BitDos. I have owned three in the past but I hold reservations because none of them have lasted more than a year before developing a game-breaking problem such a the wireless not working, or single buttons not working. I'll see if I can pick one up soon though!
eh, so tired of controllers going "HEY LOOK! I HAVE EXTRA BUTTONS!"* *not actually extra inputs, only remap to other existing buttons on the controller, Knock it off. Give us extra inputs for real, i get the driver limitation for emulating an xbox gamepad on pc, but there are other input modes available, use them. give direct access to the gyros as their own axis, not remaps to an analog stick, etc.
I have a razer sabretooth with extra triggers at the back that are just mirrored to the other existing buttons. A relatively expensive premium controller that couldn't be remapped. It's mind blowing how silly that is.
Absolutely agree! I want a controller with a CPU of its own that can handle stiff like this- - gyro to mouse - independent gyro axes - remappable buttons (including keyboard keys) Just like full QMK-like firmware.
@@RetroBreezeYT And it's not like its a crazy request, with good controllers costing up towards $100 or more, there is plenty of room to work some more tech in there without eating the profit. Bout time for PC first controllers with console compatibility second instead of the other way around, it's not a small market, and PC gamers are fine with spending money on hardware.
Imagine being a supposed tech reviewer and being puzzled by asymmetrical rumble motors. What a joke. It's been like that for god knows how long. Even my old xbox 360 controller had it like that.
Advice, do not take it, as you will encounter problems. It is true that the company cared about the quality of the product, but they did not care about instructions. This means that you will not get clear instructions. If you encounter a problem, just how to connect it to the devices. I faced problems with the hand, and I did not find the company talking about it or in the user guide. Every time I have a problem, charge the hand even though it It is charged and the problem disappears. I do not recommend it. Take a reliable hand.
Interesting spreadsheet of functionality here! About the only things it's missing from the Flydigi Vader 3 Pro is the extra buttons.
Damn, that was a GREAT review. Most reviews i watched about this controller looked like from people that used the controller for only 15 minutes.
Really appreciate that you showed how the DPAD is bad, and how the sticks have friction with the plastic.
I think i will pay a little more and get the 8bitdo ultimate blutooth. I wish you had reviewed that one too haha but seens like a good controller
Thank you so much! I always intricately test my controllers before a review! Definitely planning to review the 8BitDo Ultimate soon!
I WAS going to buy this controller until seeing this. I have changed my order now to the T4 Kaleid. Thank you.
Exactly same here. What a shame they just didn't make Kaleid wireless.
How bizarre that they've messed this up so much after doing the T4 Kaleid, but thanks for doing a detailed review of it
I like the T4 Kaleid design. The clear case and RGB is so nice.
After using the Gamesir G7 SE, I wanted a similar controller, but one that has mechanical face buttons, hall effect sticks and trigger vibration. I'm a fan of strong haptic feedback, I've found the haptics in the G7 SE to be too weak unless you sync the trigger vibration with the grip vibration. So I was worried the Kaleid wouldn't have strong haptic feedback so I decided to go with the Cyclone Pro, and I'm enjoying it so far. I dont notice the grinding sticks and I dont really use the D-pad for anything other than navigating menus, so for my own personal use case, it's a fine controller.
You could have gotten the G7 HE
@@edwardtrowers6403 I think that came out after this comment but I'm not entirely sure. I got the new Xbox Kaleid and love it.
@@james_nolan Nice, I was thinking which one to get the Kaleid or the G7 HE.
@@edwardtrowers6403 For me, the Kaleid is more comfortable, it's more ergonomic as it's the same shape as an OEM Xbox controller. For some reason the G7 SE causes certain cramping in my fingers, I can only assume it's the form factor. They have a version of the Kaleid with and without mechanical face buttons if that's not your thing.
Excellent review! Very helpful.
Cheers!
Welp i already bought it but this was such an honest and detailed review thank you for this 👍
Just my own experience here but I don't think the hall effect stick modules on the Cyclone are that good, to be honest. They don't feel as smooth as others on other controllers I own. And yes, the d-pad on the Cyclone is very bad. GameSir should've spent those extra 10 cents on a better d-pad.
You may well be right. And either way the modules are wasted.
What’s a better option
@@Po7entAt the same price range? Flydigi Direwolf is an excellent controller.
Have you ever experienced 8bitdo d-pads or the one from T4 kaleid? I'm looking up for a precise- dpad with correct input for mostly 90s old school games. Yet, I only have experience with 3rd party cheap controllers.
Would appreciate the help.
so wich is the best on your opinion?
Lol. "This is the worst Dpad I've seen on anything ever!" I have to love your polarising statements... I never do this in my videos... 😏
I'm always cautious to be so dramatic, but I tried removing ego from my videos a few back and it came off stale. I'd prefer to share my candid thoughts, but I do tend to lean into extremes I guess. Just my personality I suppose!
Is this controller better than the 8bitdo ultimate bluetooth for pc and yuzu ? 🙏
Great and deep review! What's the name and brand of the "Rainbow" controller you mention in the last part? And.. have you tested the 8bitdo Ultimate Bluetooth and the Vader 3 pro?
1. BigBigWon Rainbow 2 Pro
2. 🙈 it is the Vader 3 Pro, I said 2 by mistake. It's fantastic!
3. I have not tested the 8bitdo Ultimate yet but I want to!
The trigger vibration is amazing for example on Forza Motorsports. I can use teh vibration to feel the wheels locking up and have perfect braking without using in-game ABS.
Regarding the stupidly annoying whine you get at half press, sorry to say you got a defective controller. My first one was like that, it's the electric motor getting stuck at "half" voltage for some reason. I returned it and got a second controller and its perfect now.
Overall, great review :)
Does it feel like a stock xbox controller vibration?
do you have tutorial on how to programmable back button while connecting to pc via receiver? i see tut but in android only
Nice review. 8/10 hours battery really sucks. I have a krom khensu and it lasts like 40h. (That's the only positive thing tho)
Seems like this controller don't have a turbo function, which is a bummer. Do you people know a controller who mimics the "dualsense" vibrations and a turbo function? I could swear these new Gamesir PC controllers had turbo function through software, but doesn't seem to be the case
Are you sure, gyro doesn't work on the pc even through steam on game like Apex legends or Finals????
Controller works with dongle on my PC however the app is total trash and does not recognize the controller 😢 so it works but no mapping... Does anybody have a fix? Or if I get it downloaded on my phone will that mapping carry over to my PC?
Gosh, I never thought it had so many negative points... I'd better stick with my g7 se, I know it works great.. btw wich are the best hall effect joystick so far now ? i have pc
but it's wired....
yes but 1000hz poling rate@@zed2860
Bro theres a new update for miyoo mini. What are your thoughts about the pico8 addition?
I'm swamped so I haven't had time to check it out, but what I've seen looks fantastic!
but can you put anti friction rings on the cyclone pro?
Whats a good wireless controller yall would recommend for around this price?
Direwolf 2
Really well made review! I too prefer to not have RGB lights at all as it breaks immersion, and you are right to shame those bloatware apps, that should exist.
I love how you can incense a company device and then properly destroy another device from the same company 😂
Joke aside it’s reassuring about your integrity.
Would love your point of view on 8bitDo SN30 Pro/Pro 2 and Ultimate for sure, hope you can pull that out.
Ah yeah I should definitely check out the new 8BitDos. I have owned three in the past but I hold reservations because none of them have lasted more than a year before developing a game-breaking problem such a the wireless not working, or single buttons not working. I'll see if I can pick one up soon though!
This or easysmx 9124 pro? What is better?
Or are there any other budget controller, that are better?
Besides the expensive 8bitdo?
Thank you
Ooh, it looks cool but it’s a shame it’s not as good as the KALEID…
Yes, it is a real disappointment unfortunately!
using the dongle that comes with the controller, the vibration of the triggers does not work on the pc
It works on mine, but requires the sketchy app to activate them
but did your controller connect in xinput blue mode using the dongle that comes with it?
Cyclone? More like recycled clone amirite
But at least hall effects are normalising into the mainstream even among the worst.
Oh man I wish I had thought of that!
gamesir G4 Pro is better?
I haven't tested that one myself unfortunately
Which hall effect sensors are they using?
I believe they use K-Silver sticks
vader 3 pro next? lets go
I reeeaaally gotta get to it 😅
IMHO, This controller is like Gulikit Kingkong 2 if they're follow wrong design direction.
Does it support ps4?
eh, so tired of controllers going "HEY LOOK! I HAVE EXTRA BUTTONS!"*
*not actually extra inputs, only remap to other existing buttons on the controller,
Knock it off. Give us extra inputs for real, i get the driver limitation for emulating an xbox gamepad on pc, but there are other input modes available, use them. give direct access to the gyros as their own axis, not remaps to an analog stick, etc.
I have a razer sabretooth with extra triggers at the back that are just mirrored to the other existing buttons. A relatively expensive premium controller that couldn't be remapped. It's mind blowing how silly that is.
Absolutely agree! I want a controller with a CPU of its own that can handle stiff like this-
- gyro to mouse
- independent gyro axes
- remappable buttons (including keyboard keys)
Just like full QMK-like firmware.
@@RetroBreezeYT And it's not like its a crazy request, with good controllers costing up towards $100 or more, there is plenty of room to work some more tech in there without eating the profit. Bout time for PC first controllers with console compatibility second instead of the other way around, it's not a small market, and PC gamers are fine with spending money on hardware.
@@RetroBreezeYTIf only I knew enough about reverse engineering, I'd take a shot at building a custom firmware for my Vader 3 Pro.
Imagine being a supposed tech reviewer and being puzzled by asymmetrical rumble motors. What a joke.
It's been like that for god knows how long. Even my old xbox 360 controller had it like that.
What is hall effect?¡!!!!!
Advice, do not take it, as you will encounter problems. It is true that the company cared about the quality of the product, but they did not care about instructions. This means that you will not get clear instructions. If you encounter a problem, just how to connect it to the devices. I faced problems with the hand, and I did not find the company talking about it or in the user guide. Every time I have a problem, charge the hand even though it It is charged and the problem disappears. I do not recommend it. Take a reliable hand.