GT 7 racer, I started on tgt2 setup: rim sf1000, pedals: TLCM cockpit: fgt lite from nextlevel racing, after watching ur videos i bought t598 and using the same setup meaning pedals:tlcm,rim:sf1000(i had to use QR adapter) and cockpit:fgtlite, and t598 is beast. It is fast , precise (in case of tgt2 it was always about soooo much correction in corner and fight also overheating of base does lot changes in steering(my play session is about 12hours(if there is track like suzuka i start at morning and end after midnight😅)in GT7 sport mode), in case of pedals the t598 works better with tlcm pedals in case of load cells and gas(tgt2 had lot of issues and setup over pc does not do anything on PS5( had to do correcting in gt7 setup)and lot of time make issues with gas pedals). So at this moment for person witch want do GT7 for competition purpose I am advice to chose t598 base it is big step and as TM said it is new era for TM users on PS5 . On end thank you men for your video about this wheel I want to go on logitech PRO but after watching ur videos about T598 i happy that I bought T598 (Iam sorry for my english 😅)
I totally agree. Bro, this is just a cheap piece of plastic. The wheel has a seam running around its garbage. Save your 500 bucks and get a real one. 5 nm lol
The T-DFB transducer might also still stop working occasionally in gt7 if its set too high in game. If vibration is set to 150 it might stop, but 120 works fine. I guess its a bug. I also noticed earlier they seem to have toned down the gear jolt effect in T-GT. For what ever reason.. It used to be much more effective.
Brother I really recommend you every time you switch modes on the TGTii you need to log out and unplugged the base completely also restarting the game is key. It has happen to me before when the pedals or the base is not recognized by the game properly. Even when swapping wheels you need to unplugged the base. The TGT II is still a beast 👌 Cheers
I knew u would warm up to the T598. Smoothness is amazing. Affordable. And power steering in a real vehicle is very smooth. I set up my T598 to emulate that. My style preference
@paarker yea no problem. If u have certain games in mind it can be a little more focused. I run the wheel base generally the same. But per game I will raise or lower sometimes dependant on the support for the game. Also the in game settings will fine tune the settings i use on the base. But wheelbase settings are as follows: FFB master 100%,Mode E, Inertia Off, Friction Mid, Boost low +1, Boost High +1, Speed Mid, Damper 0, Spring 0, Gear Jolt Mid, End Stop High
Thank you for your insights Andrew! I'm buying my first sim set up. I have the ERS3 seat, waiting for my Next Level Racing f-gt elite LITE to come in, should be here by the 20th. Having a hard time getting the thrustmaster t598 though. Best Buy is the only option I can find here in Canada and its sold out in store and online 😕 I'll have to wait I guess. Once I get it I'll try to get the hyper wheel to maybe, also hard to find here. Best buy and amazon don't offer it yet
Bro don't waste your money on this 598. It's just a fad. It's not a real direct drive. It's garbage. It's plastic. I guarantee this wheel won't last a year
I’m looking at both these wheels. In Canada, the TGT II is on sale for less than the T598 (600 vs 690). I would be using all the included equipment. Is the TGT the better choice when considering the included wheel and pedals? I’m partial to GT7 so the TGT II looks like it might be a better experience even if the FF tech is not as good.
Im here in toronto and I was in the same position last week. Tgt2 vs t598 and I ended up getting the tgt2! I like buying things fully optimized for gt7 plus the near 100$ difference. Can't go wrong either wait. One is tried and true tested with gt7 (tgt2) and the t598 is the really good new kid on the block with a bright future ahead.
asseto corsa with content manager.. worth the estra hassle and jump in tp low fuel motor sports for ranked racing once you got the hang of it but plenty of public servers to learn on first
I mean I dont understand why people would buy this bundle rather than waiting for the just base. I have a tgt2 and I'm not even considering switching till the base only as I have tlcm
Dont know if the quality went down when they "updated" T-GT to T-GT2 wheels are the same apart from the "driving aid" and some recycled material in t-gt2 circuit boards. Ive had T-GT since 2018 without a hiccup..
Did try the 598 today but not happy with the rebuild old rig flexes almost or the same bad level as your next level racing stand and it drives me nuts. So will build a new rig and it better be stiff. And by then hopefully gt7 fully supports the 598 and the loadcell update is avilable because I am so used to hydraulics I not can deal with a spring brake. Muscle memory is no joke.
Not sure to buy a wheel or put controller to my car, always wanted controller car when i was kid. I think Sony did one. Submarine is where i draw aline though, thats just stupid.
Man.. not hot swapping - you propably have to restart the game for it to calibrate correctly. Also you messed up the "mode" button with the GT/non-gt slider. You dont need to use the mode button unless you play on pc or want to invert pedals. That said - you could test t-gt with the gt-slider off - that turns off the tranducer and its basically recognized as T500 or T300. Then its easier to compare the pure FFB. I dont know if you mean this exactly, but im interested if one can feel the weight transfer and suspension load/unload in T598 the way T-GT does. The weight of the wheel changes as you drive over bumbs or undulations. That 400 buck wheel should have been used in t-gt too..😂 and by the way - they have/had alcantara as the r383 rally wheel. Buy it if you can, its out of production i guess.
@@Frogboyx1gaming you could propably bolt-on change any flat 70mm alcantara rim to the Evo as all the buttons are outside the rim spokes. Its just that for example Sparco R383 automotive rim is more expensive than the whole thrustmaster R383, so maybe buy that and swap the rims.
Don't do it ita so soft thrustmaster has way more feed back u actually have to hold the wheel to control bc of the power difference i got the cheaper ge9 setup on 1 rig the difference is huge in vibration
Its wierd. I turn inertia on and when i let go on straights it oscillates. But i like how it feels. But i choose off for now because than i dont get the oscillation and still feels great. Love the t598. Cool vid👍
Tgt11 imo. Stronger, better overall. Ive always stated i think dd are overhyped in lower nm wheelbases. I much prefer dd wheelbases at 20+nm even if using much much less. The way it feels is just different. Its got much more density to everything you feel. Textures, details, suspension, tires etc. But im used to using 8+nm at all times so I cant go back. Once you adapt its hard to go back. You seem to much prefer less ffb power overall. Also load cell pedals are desines for trail braking control. Not normal braking like you do. We def arent all the same but I immediatly fained time from loadcells. But I already understood the concept of trail braking so it helped me alot.
To be honest, I think everybody's jumping on the bandwagon too soon because they want a direct drive wheel, but they don't wanna pay a lot of money. I would like to see an honest review a year from now. I don't own the wheel, so I can't give a review. But from what I've seen, the rim looks totally cheap and plastic. There's a seam that runs all the way around. I guarantee a year from now hard racing that things gonna fall apart. The direct drive motor is unproven technology to be totally honest. I would save the $500 and wait. few more months and buy a real direct drive wheel. I think this is a waste of money and it's just a fad
Holy mother of GOD Mary herself. The amount of forward and back play and rotative flex on the wheel stand that the 598 is on is atrocious. How in good faith could you recommend that with any setup.
Haha doing a review and you dont even know how to turn it on properly,has to be shut down to begin with, gt switch pos and light will flash ten times for tlcm pedals, suggest you read the manual
It's supposed to be automatic once you set it up, and sadly when it blinks 10 times it gives me 70% brake and throttle when it blinks twice I get full brake and throttle. It's backwards for me
GT 7 racer, I started on tgt2 setup: rim sf1000, pedals: TLCM cockpit: fgt lite from nextlevel racing, after watching ur videos i bought t598 and using the same setup meaning pedals:tlcm,rim:sf1000(i had to use QR adapter) and cockpit:fgtlite, and t598 is beast. It is fast , precise (in case of tgt2 it was always about soooo much correction in corner and fight also overheating of base does lot changes in steering(my play session is about 12hours(if there is track like suzuka i start at morning and end after midnight😅)in GT7 sport mode), in case of pedals the t598 works better with tlcm pedals in case of load cells and gas(tgt2 had lot of issues and setup over pc does not do anything on PS5( had to do correcting in gt7 setup)and lot of time make issues with gas pedals). So at this moment for person witch want do GT7 for competition purpose I am advice to chose t598 base it is big step and as TM said it is new era for TM users on PS5 . On end thank you men for your video about this wheel I want to go on logitech PRO but after watching ur videos about T598 i happy that I bought T598 (Iam sorry for my english 😅)
That's awesome brother the T598 is very good.
I am still on Fanatec, but you pitching T598 starting to look more and more appealing
I totally agree. Bro, this is just a cheap piece of plastic. The wheel has a seam running around its garbage. Save your 500 bucks and get a real one. 5 nm lol
You should either use the pedals that come with each wheel or used the same pedals for both wheels. Great video however
True...
The T-DFB transducer might also still stop working occasionally in gt7 if its set too high in game. If vibration is set to 150 it might stop, but 120 works fine. I guess its a bug. I also noticed earlier they seem to have toned down the gear jolt effect in T-GT. For what ever reason.. It used to be much more effective.
Brother I really recommend you every time you switch modes on the TGTii you need to log out and unplugged the base completely also restarting the game is key. It has happen to me before when the pedals or the base is not recognized by the game properly. Even when swapping wheels you need to unplugged the base. The TGT II is still a beast 👌
Cheers
Thanks for the tip, I will try it out.
Hi , do you have some settings for the tgt2 in gt7 and in the thrustmaster control panel please?
Whoop whoop! Been looking forward to this one!
Yeah, if you buy this pile of crap after a year, you will be looking at it in the trash
I knew u would warm up to the T598. Smoothness is amazing. Affordable. And power steering in a real vehicle is very smooth. I set up my T598 to emulate that. My style preference
Yeah it's great for the price and it's really smooth, I think the power steering is much closer to reality too.
@paarker yea no problem. If u have certain games in mind it can be a little more focused. I run the wheel base generally the same. But per game I will raise or lower sometimes dependant on the support for the game. Also the in game settings will fine tune the settings i use on the base. But wheelbase settings are as follows: FFB master 100%,Mode E, Inertia Off, Friction Mid, Boost low +1, Boost High +1, Speed Mid, Damper 0, Spring 0, Gear Jolt Mid, End Stop High
Fault some punch I think
Thank you for your insights Andrew! I'm buying my first sim set up. I have the ERS3 seat, waiting for my Next Level Racing f-gt elite LITE to come in, should be here by the 20th. Having a hard time getting the thrustmaster t598 though. Best Buy is the only option I can find here in Canada and its sold out in store and online 😕 I'll have to wait I guess. Once I get it I'll try to get the hyper wheel to maybe, also hard to find here. Best buy and amazon don't offer it yet
It's extremely popular right now for sure.
Bro don't waste your money on this 598. It's just a fad. It's not a real direct drive. It's garbage. It's plastic. I guarantee this wheel won't last a year
@Rickk69er we will find out. It's not plastic the base itself is very high quality
I’m looking at both these wheels. In Canada, the TGT II is on sale for less than the T598 (600 vs 690). I would be using all the included equipment. Is the TGT the better choice when considering the included wheel and pedals?
I’m partial to GT7 so the TGT II looks like it might be a better experience even if the FF tech is not as good.
I would get the T598 it has better pedals and the 300mm rim feels better overall
Im here in toronto and I was in the same position last week. Tgt2 vs t598 and I ended up getting the tgt2! I like buying things fully optimized for gt7 plus the near 100$ difference. Can't go wrong either wait. One is tried and true tested with gt7 (tgt2) and the t598 is the really good new kid on the block with a bright future ahead.
I just ordered the T598. This will be my 1st wheel. Any recommended games to play on pc with it?
asseto corsa with content manager.. worth the estra hassle and jump in tp low fuel motor sports for ranked racing once you got the hang of it but plenty of public servers to learn on first
Automobilista 2 Test Drive Unlimited Solar Crown ACC EA sports wrc
The crew motorfest, gt7
Dirt rally 2 with quest 3
I’ve got a T-GT2 with a f1000 wheel the real question is is the T598 worth the upgrade
Absolutely it is.
@@Lee.b190 no it's not unless you're made of money
I mean I dont understand why people would buy this bundle rather than waiting for the just base. I have a tgt2 and I'm not even considering switching till the base only as I have tlcm
@ yeah will probably be my choice too
I'm on PS5 how does the T598 feel with the TCLM load cell peddles.
Absolutely incredible now that I swapped the spring with the race line pedals
Are you having a problem with feel by going to a heaver wheel on the t598?
Only on certain games like GT7 other games not at all.
Is it possible to purchase the tgt 2 wheel separately to put on the t598
I am not sure you can get the adapter for it though.
@@Frogboyx1gaming thanks for getting back to me buddy appreciate the videos setting the t598 up now as it came out yesterday in uk
I’ve got the t-tg2 and getting the tick pedals for Xmas
I have u won't be disappointed 👌🏽
Tick pedals?
I had several gt2 wheels for gt7 the vibration motor kept breaking on them
Dont know if the quality went down when they "updated" T-GT to T-GT2 wheels are the same apart from the "driving aid" and some recycled material in t-gt2 circuit boards. Ive had T-GT since 2018 without a hiccup..
Did try the 598 today but not happy with the rebuild old rig flexes almost or the same bad level as your next level racing stand and it drives me nuts. So will build a new rig and it better be stiff. And by then hopefully gt7 fully supports the 598 and the loadcell update is avilable because I am so used to hydraulics I not can deal with a spring brake. Muscle memory is no joke.
I’ve setup the nxtlevel2.0 and the vibration is really bad I can’t use it coz of complaints below me lol
Not sure to buy a wheel or put controller to my car, always wanted controller car when i was kid. I think Sony did one. Submarine is where i draw aline though, thats just stupid.
And only for PC which is better?
T598 is definitely the better choice
The people that buy the level of wheels the want to serious competions in gt7
And the wheel stand are shaking alot so most of ffb is lost on the vibrations and the movement of the wheell stand
Ok so this room is actually quite big. It looks small in your steams. Nice 👍
I make it look small
Nice assessment, and you do have a purty face!
Thank you 😊
@ yw 😁🥃
Dope AF 🐸
Man.. not hot swapping - you propably have to restart the game for it to calibrate correctly. Also you messed up the "mode" button with the GT/non-gt slider. You dont need to use the mode button unless you play on pc or want to invert pedals.
That said - you could test t-gt with the gt-slider off - that turns off the tranducer and its basically recognized as T500 or T300. Then its easier to compare the pure FFB. I dont know if you mean this exactly, but im interested if one can feel the weight transfer and suspension load/unload in T598 the way T-GT does. The weight of the wheel changes as you drive over bumbs or undulations.
That 400 buck wheel should have been used in t-gt too..😂 and by the way - they have/had alcantara as the r383 rally wheel. Buy it if you can, its out of production i guess.
You have to hold the left paddle shifter and the mode button for 2 seconds to switch from T LCM to T3PA
I specifically want an Alcantara rim for the EVO
@@Frogboyx1gaming you could propably bolt-on change any flat 70mm alcantara rim to the Evo as all the buttons are outside the rim spokes. Its just that for example Sparco R383 automotive rim is more expensive than the whole thrustmaster R383, so maybe buy that and swap the rims.
Ive been using R383 for street/rally and p310 for track. They are the Sparco alcantara ancestors of EVO and supercar..
I'm thinking about getting the Logitech G29
Get the G923 its on a massive sale for black Friday
Don't do it ita so soft thrustmaster has way more feed back u actually have to hold the wheel to control bc of the power difference i got the cheaper ge9 setup on 1 rig the difference is huge in vibration
Its wierd. I turn inertia on and when i let go on straights it oscillates. But i like how it feels. But i choose off for now because than i dont get the oscillation and still feels great. Love the t598. Cool vid👍
Tgt11 imo. Stronger, better overall. Ive always stated i think dd are overhyped in lower nm wheelbases. I much prefer dd wheelbases at 20+nm even if using much much less. The way it feels is just different. Its got much more density to everything you feel. Textures, details, suspension, tires etc.
But im used to using 8+nm at all times so I cant go back. Once you adapt its hard to go back.
You seem to much prefer less ffb power overall.
Also load cell pedals are desines for trail braking control. Not normal braking like you do.
We def arent all the same but I immediatly fained time from loadcells. But I already understood the concept of trail braking so it helped me alot.
Letting go of my t gt2 and keeping my t300 gt ,😄
T598 was out of stock within an hour in the uk,surely they could’ve seen the demand for this product coming 🤔
I got mine through currys not sure if they have stock left
Dam that sucks hope you get one soon my friend.
@@paarker same really impressed with it
It won't be the t598 as it's out of stock everywhere in the uk
Neither, you should absolutely use the stock Xbox Series controller.
Its very unfair for the t598 when u use tlcm on tgt2 and simple pedals like 3tpa on t598
I must say that if u use that camera its the worse camera on gt7
And even use diferent pedals one is the tlcm and the other a simple 3pa
More peanut gallery shill videos please 🙏
To be honest, I think everybody's jumping on the bandwagon too soon because they want a direct drive wheel, but they don't wanna pay a lot of money. I would like to see an honest review a year from now. I don't own the wheel, so I can't give a review. But from what I've seen, the rim looks totally cheap and plastic. There's a seam that runs all the way around. I guarantee a year from now hard racing that things gonna fall apart. The direct drive motor is unproven technology to be totally honest. I would save the $500 and wait. few more months and buy a real direct drive wheel. I think this is a waste of money and it's just a fad
@Rickk69er the T598 is really good especially when you get an upgraded wheel rim like the Hypercar wheel or EVO Racing 32R Wheel
lets goooooo
Holy mother of GOD Mary herself. The amount of forward and back play and rotative flex on the wheel stand that the 598 is on is atrocious. How in good faith could you recommend that with any setup.
LOL not everyone is looking for an expensive Sim Cockpit with zero flex. Some people just simply want to have some fun.
TGT 11 beats the 598 easy. The letdown is the pedals.
Haha doing a review and you dont even know how to turn it on properly,has to be shut down to begin with, gt switch pos and light will flash ten times for tlcm pedals, suggest you read the manual
It's supposed to be automatic once you set it up, and sadly when it blinks 10 times it gives me 70% brake and throttle when it blinks twice I get full brake and throttle. It's backwards for me
@frogboyx1Gaming plug those pedals into laptop and reset