The Best Dress Watches For the Money - NOMOS Orion, Ludwig, Tangente Review ($2,000)
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- In my time as a watch collector, my tastes have certainly changed quite a bit, but if I have to identify my first love in watchmaking in terms of the type of style that drew me in, it was the dress watch, and to pinpoint even further, Germany’s take on the dress watches. This draw towards these types of watches transitioned into dollars spent a few years ago after the purchase of my NOMOS Orion, a watch that after years of owning I want to revisit with a review, along with two other dress models within NOMOS’ catalog that to me represent the best dress watches one can buy for their price point.
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Hi everyone, thanks for watching. With these difficult times facing us, I just want to wish you all health and safety. At the moment, watches seem a little less important than usual, however, I hope these videos can offer some sense of escape from the challenges of this pandemic. Thankfully, I did manage to shoot several videos in the past several weeks that will allow me to upload quite a bit of content in the coming month despite the shutdowns and quarantines. Again, I wish you all the best and thank you for watching!
Stay safe Teddy!
@@SwissWatchGang Same to you brother!
@@TeddyBaldassarre 1 month of home office and shooting watches, could be worse :)
@@SwissWatchGang Hahaha very true
Keep it going, my friend! It is serious out there, but we need channels like yours to keep us entertained and focused on when we can get back to normal
March 14th: spends almost $2,000 to buy a new Nomos dress watch for large business meetings, formal event, and going out to fancy restaurants or to the the opera...March 15th: everyone is quarantined for a month or more.
You will get your opportunity sooner or later! Keep it to yourself and enjoy examining it at home for now! After all, we all buy watches for ourselves, not for others.
Got a Frederique Constant slim moonphase watch during this quarantine. Fucking love looking at it even if other people can't appreciate it.
How’s that purchase working out for you? Lol
glassessn i really like the look of that one, just wish they came out with a 38 mm ish version thats the same price
@@hugedickerinokripperino5299 thanks for posting, just re-read my post from March 19, 2020. We really though this quarantine will last a month or so...that was wishful thinking.
When I show my watch collection to my friends, the Nomos and the Junghans Max Bill always get the most compliments. People seem to like them more than any casual or sporty watches.
Same here, those are the two most complimented watches. Non watch people love them.
Teddy Baldassarre because they look like DW watches.. :(
Bought a Nomos Orion about 18 months ago as my first mechanical watch and my first watch since a casio about 20 years ago. It’s genuinely given me a love of watches. Added a Stowa Partito about a year ago and now love it too. Just about ready to get my first vintage watch now with a blue dial Datejust top of my list. Stumbled across your videos researching that purchases and I appreciate the enthusiasm and knowledge. Cheers!
Thanks for sharing this, Joe! Partito is one of my favorites from Stowa. Have a nice weekend!
It's all fun and games until someone calls your NOMOS a Daniel Wellington rip off 😂
Nice video, Teddy!
Hahaha I have gotten that before - thanks Steven!
Somebody mistook mine for a Skagen. I wanted to punch him.
Glad you reviewed nomos. Tangente was my first watch and still my fav for everyday work use.
Love the video content, but just wanted to say, absolutely love the stuff you do with your videos in terms of editing, photos, and more. Keep it up!
Absolutely love the midnight blue dial on the Tangente. Such a nice rich color!
Dude, you have hands down one of the best production value in your watch videos I've ever seen. Keep up the good work!
Thank you man! That means a lot to hear. Have been working hard to improve it.
Teddy! I love all the time you take to make these Quality videos. One thing I'd love to see more though, is more time spent on wrist shots.
Thanks for the videos and keep them coming. They do provide a sense of normalcy.
The Nomos is amazing, i really like the design, same aesthetic as the Junghans Max Bil, very legible, minimalist, clean and striking
Absolutely love your video and this brand that you made me discover. It's crazy now how any watch looks either bulky or cheap or dull compared to these. Pure elegance.
Just bought an Orion 2 weeks ago. It's amazing! I recommend getting a deployment clasp for it! They also offer short straps for tiny wrists!
Hey Teddy,
Great video all the way.
I bought my Metro 38 last year after the thorough research (I was going to buy tangente at first)
After I found your channel, Istart following the watches industry because of you, please continue making the great videos.
Cheers!
Hi, Teddy. Always enjoy your videos. Love these watches. Best regards 😆😺
The quality of your videos has become insane! Keep up the good work!
Personally, my style is smart casual (Shirts & chinos or dark jeans), but I love dress watches so much they make most of my collection. I try to dress them with strap.
But usually, the elegance of a dress watch cannot be beaten
Love Nomos, been saving up for one the past year - probably a Metro 35 in midnight blue. I think they are making really unique, timeless watches, great movements, all at rock solid prices. I’m mostly a tool watch guy but I’d like to expand the dress watch side of my collection. I’d love to see you review the Metro!
About a Month ago I got the Noms Tantente 35mm limited "Glück Auf" Version. Its a beautiful homage to my Family Heritage.
Nomos make such beautiful Watches. Great Video!
Very nice overview Teddy! I’ve recently ventured from sports watch to the realm of dress watches thanks to reviews from yourself and the good folks at Hodinkee. I’ve become captivated with the simplistic beauty of Nomos, particularly the Orion 38mm Midnight Blue Ref. 389. Dollar for dollar it’s the best value dress watch IMO. Overall I feel like the brand is definitely deserving of a spot in the “Modern Day Trinity” alongside Grand Seiko and Tudor for producing affordable options to the likes of their more expensive Swiss competitors. Thanks again for the great video and keep up the great work!
Currently lusting after a Tangente ref 172. Amazing watches.
same here, NOMOS got me into watches due to their designs and a great story behind the brand.
Agree 100%!!!! I just pull the triger with a Tangente 101 with the Peseaux movement and I can't be more satisfied
I have the Ludwig 33 and put it on the Nomos shell cordovan strap. The alpha caliber is very reliable. I also wear an old 31mm Patek 3796. The dress watch is more versatile than many think and used to be the only watch most men owned until quite recently.
This video dropped at a good time. I'm considering a Nomos Ludwig 38 to complete my four watch collection but need to see one in the flesh to see if it's for me and my 7.25" wrist. Such a tough call in the dress watch category as there is so much choice. I started collecting with a diver but find I'm warming to dress watches a lot more recently. I appreciate the class and simple elegance they have to offer.
Nomos and german watchmaking rocks!
Agreed buddy! Nice job on the Lange review. Awesome video.
@@TeddyBaldassarre Thank you! I am in love with Lange watches, on the list for next year. a chrono :)
You make great videos. I have a bunch (7 or 8) of vintage Omegas from the 50's, 60's an early 70's I use as dress watches. I understand the attraction to the very clean and fresh look of a Nomos but a bit of patina also suits a dress watch.
Great video Tedd. I love NOMOS and currently own the 38.5mm club datum and the 35mm Tangente blue. My next will be the 35mm Orion that you own. I feel that NOMOS is such a cool brand that offers looks and quality at a great price that few can rival.
I have been looking at Nomos as my next piece, and I have been looking at these three models (although the silver tangente). I still haven’t decided if I want to go for the more traditional styling of the Orion, or the more funky Tangente, or split the difference with the Ludwig. All great watches!
Love them! Really love them. Perfect designs
That's what I think. I was in Vienna with my partner a few years ago and she pointed out the Nomos display - I'd never heard of them but I spent 10 minutes gazing at them and bought a Tangente later that year. Just added a Midnight Blue Club Campus 39 with the Neomatik movement.
Finally Ludwig review!!!!! love it!
Thanks for this comparison Teddy, I have had my eye on the 35mm Orion for a while but now I like the other two options almost as much!
I am surprised to hear that Nomos outsells Junghans in volume? I adore my Max Bill, and Junghans is what got me interested in the Bauhaus aesthetic.
It is sad to hear that dress watches are losing popularity. Having 6" wrists, dress watches have great appeal to me. I keep hoping the sports watch craze will fade a bit so other styles can get more of the attention they deserve.
Always need a dress watch. It's how I got started as well and even though a diver can be a lot of fun and a gshock makes you feel invincible, a dress watch brings a level of class and refinement to everyday living. It makes you feel like a gentleman. It reminds of bygone ages of tradition and elegance.
My Orion datum 38mm on my 7 inch wrist is just perfect. Nice review. I like dress watches. Let's review some dress watches!!
Stay safe everyone!
Great video Teddy, thanks! How would you rate your Orion vs the JH Max Bill (which if I'm not mistaken you own as well). Can't decide between the Tangente 139 or the Junghans
The cinematography is 👌🏻
Huge fan of Nomos, I own the Orion 38 and the company are fantastic to deal with.
Love my limited Tangomat Norma, and Zurich worldtimer in blue dial. Nomos watches are the best for their functionality, and modern aesthetic for the money. It is especially appealing to designers and architects for example myself. And I think that is the audience they are targeting for too.
I’m so pleased that I have little need for a dress watch. That midnight blue Tangente though would be a contender if I did.
very good insights and walk through.. thank you
I have two Nomos. The Neomatik Midnight Blue 1115 and the Metro 38 1108. They look the same but different movements and colors. I really like them. Great design, light weight and thin. I don’t think they’re as popular as the three in your video.
The only downside is the big lugs in my opinion
The 35 mm I think help with this. Tangente the lug length is a bit less noticeable given the sharp bend at the middle of the lugs. Thanks for watching!
I thought they would be too big for my tiny wrists as well. But after I tried a couple of them on, even the 41mm Tangente Update, I noticed they fit pretty well and the lugs give it a super nice aesthetic.
Exactly. These lugs are humongous!
I think the lugs make it special
I just got a Mido Multifort 38mm and it is amazing. Can be dressed up or down and its just perfect. Thanks for the awesome videos as always!
Also, does your website only have limited straps right now? Will this be changing?
Thank You.
Nice watches and a great to the point presentation.
Thanks for this, Teddy. As someone considering a Nomos seriously this was very helpful! I have a 7 inch wrist and tend to gravitate to the heavier look of the Nomos Club models and am thinking of one of those in the 38 - 39 mm case size. I feel like the thicker case reminds me a bit more of the classic German proportions from Glashutte Original and Lange and I like that. Was thinking I could get a Club and make it more formal for a suit/jacket situation with the right brown or black strap for that situation and then spice it up for the weekend or more casual situation with a brighter, funner strap like some type of NATO or even red one like Kevin O'Leary loves. Any thoughts on this approach given your experience with Nomos?
Love Nomos as a brand. Being retired, and living in a sub tropical climate, I rarely don a formal suit these days so while I like the look and idea of a dress watch but rarely would u wear one, so so etching more universal and fun like the tetra or club neomatic would be my choice. Plus you rarely see Nomos here in Australia
Great Video and awesome watches!
They are simply so classy - fantastic design and craftmanship! Manual wind and no screw down crown is the way to go. I have quite a few chronos/sport watches, but have recently discovered the world of more dressy watches. No Nomos yet, but..... Great video, as always 😉👍
Thank you my friend! And agreed on the pieces!
I’m definitely a dress watch guy. I love that Ludwig. And I love the size of these watches, especially their thinness.
Teddy,
Thanks for another thoughtful video. The Nomos Bauhaus design hints are beautiful.
As to dress v. sport watches. My take is influenced by my collection interests. I have six different Bulova dress watches that I share with my wife. All six (including watches from the 30s, 40s and 50s) put together cost less than a modern Nomos.
When shopping for sport watches, modern technology in automatics and mechanics far surpasses the capabilities of vintage watches. But, when you are talking about a watch under a dress shirt cuff, a vintage watch from a reliable American firm like Bulova, Waltham, Hamilton or Elgin is my choice.
Teddy, I love and appreciate Dress watches and I am supporting your belief that Dress watches are important. To yourself and myself. Thank you I have learned a lot about watches and there movements. I àm new to the watch collection of my desire thanks for the education. Take care and I look forward to my love of Dress Watches.
The older club is my favourite. Very clean design yet sporty at the same time, only complaint is that yes the lugs extend way out but it's not a deal breaker I'll still rock it.
My first dress watch purchase was Bulova Aerojet 98A187 the dress watch was my introduction to the watch world as an adult
Hi, nice video! Which one do you prefer at the end of the day? NOMOS TANGENTE or JUNGHANS MAX BILL?
great video as always, Teddy! I would argue that the JLC master ultra thin 34mm (no date/moon) is by far the highest horology for the price imo. It also has the famous jlc cal.849 and can be had second hand for around 3k. Not that these nomos timepieces are a slouch! they’re great value too with true in house mvts. either way, you can’t go wrong. keep up the great work and cheers from cincinnati!
Hi Mark, nice take on JLC. You are right, second-hand JLC dress watches can be found for a steal in that 3-5 k range which is insane. Thanks for watching!
Teddy Baldassarre thanks, Teddy!advice please!!...should I purchase my grail dress watch at a great price(that jlc in 18k) or go for a more practical luxury sports watch that may be worn more? I appreciate your thoughts.
Intro sequence was 🔥
In my opinion the Orion is the best looking of the three, although they all look great. I don't know if the SARB033 and Tissot PR100 (white, with aftermarket black leather strap) are considered dress watches, but those are my two favorites that I alternate during the work week and when I'm going out on on the weekends, with a diver and a field for outdoorsy stuff. Nomos is out of my price range, but that Orion sure has me drooling. Thanks for getting my mind off all the troubles just for a few minutes.
Bro, the intro edit was beautiful.
My preference is dress watches and field watches. I like the Nomos Tangente, it's unique compared to other dress watches and would like to own it oneday.
We have the exact same taste in watches! Well at least the "you" when you were first starting out. I got into watches from Daniel Wellington (no shame). I explored a bit deeper in watches in the same design style and eventually, I found Nomos, Glashutte Original, etc although my wallet keeps me from owning them.
For Nomos I only liked the Orion at first but now I've learned to appreciate the other two. I like the rounded case in Orion the best, especially the curved lugs, and I like the dial design on both Orion and ludwig. The Orion is the cleanest for more stylish points, but Ludwig offers a more classical take on watches and I'm a sucker for that too (you can tell I like GO senator, I know). Both work great in suits with Ludwig having a slight lead with that classical dial, while Orion just rocks everywhere.... why else did you think DW could sell, right?
Great video man
I’m on the hunt for a more formal dress watch. Can’t stop thinking about the GS Snowflake ❄️
Just at nearly triple the cost haha
I don't think it's more formal, in my opinion the GS snowflake makes a great Everyday-watch, but nomos is more "dressier" and formal.. I guess
I love nomos! Would love to own one in the future 👍
I like minimalist watches 36 to 38 mm....and no date. Love your videos. Be safe always.
Simple, elegant watches. Thanks for watching and wishing you safety as well!
I agree with you on the fact that it's getting harder to find dress watches. I like the Nomos designs but I prefer the Junghans Max Bill, that is a personal opinion of course. Great video and thank you. You are one of the few you tubers doing the German watches. How about something on Muhle Glashutte, I have one of their watches and it's become a favorite of mine to wear. Just a suggestion from a southern Ohio native.
I dont have a huge reason for a dress watch. In most situations, I can get away with something else or just find something cheaper. I was considering the more purely casual route where I'd get to wear it more often by getting the Sinn 104, an excellent watch and one I still would like to get someday, BUT then I held the Nomos. It is STUNNING in person. I also realized, I don't need to be going to a formal business meeting to wear a "dress watch". As long as I'm not down the shore in the water or hiking or something, I can wear it. For someone like me who doesn't "need" a dress watch often, I am ecstatic to own the Nomos Orion as my first luxury watch. You'll be upset when you look down one day wanting something "nice" to wear and it isn't there, trust me.
Hey Teddy, where is that overshirt from?
Great video!
I've always considered Cartier Tank as a quintessential dress watch. Back in the 70's I could never afford a Cartier but did get one in Seiko ala Tank style. Eventually I was able to purchase a Cartier. Even today I consider the Tank, "The dress watch". I also still have that Seiko Tank.
What sort of tank did you go with? Trying to decide on solo, must de, etc
It was Tank Solo XL. But soon after that I bought a JLC Reverso. I liked them both, but I sold the Cartier last year. I still like Cartier but now I'm eyeing the Santos.@@randomocityvideos
Hi Teddy Nice video, i am little confused in choosing the watches between Omega Sea master 300, Tudor Black Bay Or Nomos. Also I had question about the dial size ( I love my Christopher Ward C60 Trident fits perfectly on my wrist, so can you suggest me which size will be good from Nomos ) and Thanks you.
I marry on 4th August this year and bought yesterday a Nomos Orion 38 for 1290€ in almost new condition. Perfect watch for my wedding.
A dress watch is essential to a gentleman's watch collection. As important as sport watches even if worn less often. I don't often wear an overcoat or tuxedo, but I choose to own both. As usual excellent review of under appreciated brand.
Someday I'll get one. Mostly thanks to you. Want to see one in person before I'll buy. Probably the Tangete 38 date.
Found your videos last year and fell in love with nomos. Added a club campus neomatik 39 midnight blue back in october. Any straps you can recommend for nomos watches? Thanks again.
Please do a similar format video with the Minimatik.... I think it's disregarded and overlooked quite a bit and is definitely worth checking out
That shirt jacket is killer!
I really like Nomos!
They definetly have there place in the watch industry and I love there Bauhaus design language.
I just graduated from collage and now I'm looking for a dress watch... I'm absolutly in love with the Jaeger LeCoultre Reverso but I can't afford it yet.
I really like the Nomos Orion too and I could pull the trigger on it already..
Not sure if I should wait and save on the reverso or if I should get the Orion
Hi Teddy and thanks for the vid. Question, why not buy for the same money or less a rolex dj 1601?
Also living in a hot country i could never use a leather strap. Can you suggest a ss strap dress watch?
Hi Teddy. Great Job as always. I have been looking to get a 36-38mm rose gold tone dress watch and was considering the Longines Presence Automatic L4.805.1.11.2 - What do you think of this? Appreciate your expert opinion!!
I am missing the Nomos Zurich in your fine review. Phantastic watch.
Definitely need to cover that in the future
Several of these were absolute beauties. I'd like a Nomos Neomatik in midnight blue (Arabic numerals).
Thoughts on the Orion White for a two watch collection?
Teddy, it's because of you that I have my Nomos Club 701!
I hope you enjoy it man! Thanks for watching
I own the Max Bill but won't go for the Nomos. For me, a Small second watch is no-go. I love to watch the sweeping seconds and small seconds is just too small.
Keep strong, Teddy. Hopefully soon we'll be sophisticated enough to really actively collect watches again. Strength to you and your family and friends.
These definitely have caught my eye as of late. At first, I honestly hated the design and the fact that they all basically look the same. But for the price point, their movements look great and I think would pair with a suit much nicer than My Omega AT. I want to try one on when I get a chance to go to San Francisco again before deciding though.
Long live the dress watch! Those Tangente and Orion watches are amazing! Ludwig is cool but for me the Orion and Tangente really take the cake
Teddy. Could you get your hands on the JLC blue and silver “sector dial”? And do a review of it. It may be the classiest and coolest watch I’ve ever seen.
Excellent video
What do you think of mother of pearl dial for men's dress watch? Is it okay or a terrible idea? I have seen recently a few men's watches with mother of pearl dials.
I am in a position that requires me to be both dressed in a business casual and dress fashion. Having a watch piece that I can wear to both functions and at an affordable price is a great value...the Nomos provides this luxury.
The blue autobahn is my fav but a tangente is probably what I will buy.
Love my silver Nomos Tangente 38 with Sapphire case back. Looked at lots of different options prior to purchase but something about the simplicity grabbed me. Also love the Orion styling and probably prefer the lugs but the Ludwig just doesn’t do it for me. Funny but I guess the devil really is on the detail
I've worn a 33mm nomos for years, very comfortable and much more appealing than many of the larger versions. With the lugs being as long as they are and it being mostly dial, it wears much larger than you would expect. The big downside is that the lug width is 17mm. This makes straps a bit tricky unless you make your own.
My Junghans Driver Meister has a Perseux movement and I already thought this Nomos ”inhouse” movement looked familiar
Nomos is an outstanding watch!
Important to note that the gangreserve and datum models do not have the Alpha movement. The Alpha is only partially in-house while the DUW 4101 is fully in-house and has the NOMOS swing system.
I came to this video just after I watched the Philippe Dufour interview where he praised the A. Lange & Sohne Datograph and Nomos. These Nomos watches are elegant. Perfect minimalist expressions, regardless of price. Still, I found a watch that is so reductive and so pure it makes the Simplicity look complicated. The Credor Eichi ll Ruri Blue. If I can own just one watch in the world, the Eichi ll would be it.
I really wish Nomos made a dial with a traditional second hand instead of a small subdial.
Wonder if anyone here has heard of Sternglas - microbrand that designs some beautiful looking stuff, love their Naos. Yes it's not an in-house movement but sapphire glass and great looking case/dial for a cheaper great looking watch.
I'm in the market for a new dress watch and didn't want to spend too much as it will be a very occasion wear. Do you know if the lug to lug the same dimensions on the 38mm as the 35mm? I've narrowed it down to the Nomos Orion, Junghans max bill or the Baume & Mercier Classima. Be interested to hear your thoughts?
I love the Orion. That could be my next watch. I got 7 1/4" wrists but like the 35 on me better than the 38. It's sort of strange that I do since a Submariner is my every day watch.
The Nomos is very nice. What do you think of Cuervos y Sobrinos watches, regarding the 2000k range?
Are we not even going to talk about the smiley face on their name? 😜
Seriously though, great video. Nomos creates such great looking dress watches.