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Maybe. But for a small company like Volvo its important to simplify their production. Also when Volvo had the Yahama made V8, everybody raved about it, but nobody actually bought one. Even in the US with their cheap gasoline, dealers had to heavily discount the V8 to clear their stocks. So it makes totally sense, that Volvo say "enough is enough" and concentrate on engines, people will actually go out and buy. And when they can get 400 hp from the 4-cylinder with a hybrid system, what is really the problem? If its just the lack of sound, that is frankly a silly complaint.
Very rare car in the US. Volvo only importing less than 1000 unit to US. So you are also paying for a car you won't see on the road everywhere. I have MY16 and have never seen another one
Polestar Wes I've heard Volvo are disappointed in their sales and the market reaction - have you heard that? Any long-term annoyances with yours? Also, do you have the V60 or S60 ?
acchaladka I doubt there disappointed with Polestar sales. That's why they make such a small amount. 750 units is smaller than Lamborghini production. They will sale every Polestar they make. Reliability wish my car has been great. Not a issue in 1 year of ownership. This is a older platform so all the problems have been worked out. The 2017 has the new 4 cylinder so I can't comment on that, but my inline 6 has been bulletproof. Now the XC90 is selling very well and the new XC60 will be on sale this fall and it looks like a hit. Great things are happening for Volvo
Great review, thank you! I've been looking at this vs Golf R, here in Canada. I'm single and don't need the cargo space but I love everything about the Polestar except the price and fuel economy. (And I own a Golf TDI so that's another strike against as I'm bored of the Golf.) The Polestar sounds great and looks great in blue; I'm looking at V60 over S60 and thinking to wait for the new infotainment. Finally, I'd like to see you do a review on Colorado /Alberta mountain roads to see if you still think that scenery is 'best in the world'. ;)
Thank you Thomas, yet another excellent concise review! I am of course partial to the Rebel Blue V60 sportwagon (sexvagn) version; I have a rebel '15 V60 T6 R-Design with sublime 3.0 T6 inline 6 cylinder. Difficult for me to appreciate the new raucous Drive-e replacement, no matter how much horsepower, except for perhaps the lighter weight over the front wheels for less nose dive, maybe quicker reflexes on the tight curves . A slight savings in average fuel consumption hardly compensates for the loss in engine torque, sound and general refined character. My advice: find a 2016 Polestar with the 6 cylinder (unless you have the tax penalties), or wait a few months for the 2017 V90 T6-e R-Design, for probably similar money. That modernized roomier Volvo (in Bursting Blue) is a better all around car, though unfortunately also with the little 2.0L 4 cylinder engine like this Polestar (less HP but can opt for hybrid); that's the only choice going forward. Ciao!
I would love to purchase a new s80 or s60 but sadly it's just to much money!i drove a s 80 a couple of years ago and it had the most comfortable seats that I had ever sat in!i love the new s80 and s60'beautifull styling and excellent fuel economy with the new 4 cylinder turbo charged and supercharged.thats what I call havin you're cake and eating it to!!!keep up the great stylin cues Volvo!!!!!
Thomas - thank you for another of your great review on this Volvo. I have never owned one yet! But I had a Volvo sport type wagon for rental while my Porsche were in warranty work. It was a good driving car (in the 97-98). Still remember I noticed the response on the interior electronic buttons(a/c, radio etc) are slower than a German cars.(Mercedes and Porsche) My thought of a Volvo image has been a family, some what conservative type car.(1980's). As my first car was a BMW 325e, it was a very good driving car.(solid built, functional and sound good on engine Rev). But this v70 look pretty good, sound pretty good too from your video demo. I think I may go test drive it to see and let you know.... definitely a wagon for my choice. Btw, how is this v70 compare to a Subaru Outback 3.5 6 cylinder ? Please let me know your opinion...
Im really looking into this car but then the older one with the 3 litre however I have a question, do you have to shift manually if you want to use the exhaust lip?
Superb scenery, great road. And good video, and interior detail. As always. Many thanks. You ask for opinions? My opinion: I like the car; I prefer the Estate body-shell; I don't go for the gloomy, cramped and low-looking interior, and I prefer a lighter interior; 60,000 Euro seems a lot of money to pay for an 'old-generation-car'; a really sporty car with a great noise, but on really bad back roads or on bad surfaced city streets at low speeds, surely the ride must be uncomfy? Many thanks, Thomas - great work.
Thanks for the review. Great looking car not too much plastic and spoilers although I think the wheels are getting just too big almost to the point of being ridiculous. For me the sedan for me is much more pleasing to look at.
Hello Thomas!! Huge fan from India!! Wonderful work on the channel! Quick question..Are they bringing the Thor's hammer to the s60 anytime soon?? Thanks a lot!
I think the 2015 model with the straight six sounds much better. Overall, still a great car but i would go for the 15' model than the 16 with that sound.
Great review Thomas! I should be picking up my V60 Polestar in Rebel Blue next week. In North America, the windshield heater is not included so we are lucky in that we won't have to deal with that visibility issue you described in the video. Finally, I'm glad to hear you liked the sound of the new Polestar Engine. There's a lot of Volvo purists screaming about this very topic. The old Polestar had a V6 so of course it's going to sound a little more fuller, but the 2017 model sounded pretty good here. Did you ever get a chance to drive the older Polestar? Schöne Grüße aus Kanada!
The old Polestar had one of the nicest (inline) 6 cylinder turbo engines ever produced, and sounding amazing with the variable sport exhaust. This Drive-e 2.0 4 cylinder with turbo and supercharger barely out-produces the single turbo AMG 2.0. It certainly doesn't sound as good as the inline 6, or the AMG 4, for that matter. The expense implies there is something more refined/premium under the hood, but sadly there is not.
Looking to make the '18 V60 Polestar make next car within the next few years. I just bought a Civic EX-T earlier this year, so I gotta wait a bit. It just doesn't do it for me though. I'm a sucker for a nice sport station wagon! I hear some people say that Volvo won't be having the Polestar trim after 2018 because of the branch off. That's why I'd be looking at a used. Is that true?
Travis Sellers Hi it is true. 2018 was the last series, the 2018 cars are numbered and production of s/v combined was 1500 worldwide. I have a V60 polestar from 2018. I do recommend it. Entertainment is a bit outdated, but it drives really well and is extremely comfortable, especially compared to my 2017 wrx. Its not a raw sports car more like a powerfull luxury cruiser : ) But its ultrasafe and perfect for a family with dogs. 2018 is also differenr to this car, it has a carbon spoiler pack which provides 40% more downforce (and the sidesplitter just looks ill) and also carbon mirrors. The one thing is that they are extremely expensive to maintain only original parts are available (set of front brake rotors is over 1000 usd) for example. Some engine parts are not available anymore (for example the turbo is not made anymore) and so on. Bare in mind also that minimum rim size is 19” and 19 or 20 winter tires are not exactly cheap.....
Nice and good car, but the dashboard is out of date. Those phone numbers on the middle console, that is realy old fassion. By the way, veryy good review
Pretty disappointed that Volvo didn't upgrade the interior, also those alloys look like a nightmare to clean! +autogefühl do you prefer the 2.0 or the 3.0 version?
Ich fahre nen V60 D2 (BJ: 2015) und bin sehr zufrieden.Das beste Auto was ich jemals hatte!Die Polestar Version is ja ganz nett aber die neuen Modelle sind am Weg und bitte wer gibt da noch 70k für ein altes Modell aus? Für mich steht Volvo für Sicherheit,Elegance,Komfort und ein geschmeidiges Fahrgefühl und da brauche ich bestimmt keine 370 PS für ^^
I own S60CC 2017 and i tell you it's pretty solid and performance is pretty high. Nothing lags, no delays, etc, probably even better than all this touch-style shit. I've tried Mondeo 2017 touch display and it was terribly slow. It can piss anyone off.
Which colour would I pick? Those prices, neither! Sorry but price they’re asking just can’t be justified at almost 3 times the price of a S60....I mean if they’re we’re going from (and the presenter used the Mercedes comparison) a e350 to e55 and saying it’s double the price...we get that..However, a 70hp upgrade, with a moderate interior (manual steer column??) and exterior upgrades...at $85K US or $103k CND Volvo is a little full of themselves imho. Swedes..go figure.
Interior is so boring, just compare it to Audi A4... but in overall aspect this car is great, really good choice imo. Oh... and this little display, please make it a little bit bigger. Volvo's multimedia is outdated, we're in 2016.
I own S60CC T5 2017 (with no touch display and stuff) and it's not even close to Mercedes or Audi interiors. It's good car for it's price, probably one of the best choices, if not the best... but WTF are you talking about? What does new Volvo series has to do with the fact, that Volvo interior is outdated compared to Audi/Mercedes/BMW? When new S60 series will come, Audi, Mercedes and BMW will advance again. Still love my S60CC, i'll never exchange it for Audi or Mercedes.
kordax mint I mean that the current s60/v60 are from 2010 and only have got a little facelift in 2013 and thats why it look so old and isn't a big competitor to the current c-class mb... But when the NEW s60/v60 will come out mb, bmw and audi will have a very big competitor.
Well tomorrow comes bew v60 with your shitty touch screen the interior might look boring but i like it i dont like touch screens but wtf you are talking about audi has giod interior like wtf audi hasnt done nothing with their interior its from 2006 audi certainly hasnt made boring interior they made it so ugly that its not even broing when you get sick of the interior brilliant!
This mans voice and car reviewing expertise, wunderbar
Vielen Dank =)
Autogefühl
I'm going to start saying wunderbar
I know im randomly asking but does anybody know of a method to get back into an instagram account??
I was dumb forgot my account password. I would appreciate any assistance you can give me
@Jaxtyn Crew instablaster ;)
the last time i get into a volvo i was impressed by the quality of the doors , heavy and solid.
I’m watching the clip only now, as I couldn’t afford one before. Brilliant as always , thanks
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Just bought a Polester V60 and love it.
Your videos are put together so nicely and professionally I'm surprised you don't have many subscribers. Keep doing what you're doing! GO AUTOGEFÜHL!
+Inside Agartha thx and spread the word!
He needs a TV Show!
I freaking love the intros of these vids. In full hd, full screen, and full length. Let's go!
+Tripp55 👍👍
I'm not a big fum of downsizing. But this thing is a badass...
What a sound :)
Perfect car for me:D Nice review:)
+mrmementofinis 👍🚙
This sounds great for a 2 liter.
🦅🦅🇺🇸 we love your style, love your tone of voice, love Thomas! Always enjoy your review!
thanks stick with us!
the 6 cylinder engine was much better sounding,it s a bit pity the fact that the companies are following a dramatic downsize at their engines.
Maybe. But for a small company like Volvo its important to simplify their production. Also when Volvo had the Yahama made V8, everybody raved about it, but nobody actually bought one. Even in the US with their cheap gasoline, dealers had to heavily discount the V8 to clear their stocks. So it makes totally sense, that Volvo say "enough is enough" and concentrate on engines, people will actually go out and buy. And when they can get 400 hp from the 4-cylinder with a hybrid system, what is really the problem? If its just the lack of sound, that is frankly a silly complaint.
This car is so beautiful
The only car manufacturer can make a wagon desirable is Volvo all day and every day. Volvo rockssssssssss
Very rare car in the US. Volvo only importing less than 1000 unit to US. So you are also paying for a car you won't see on the road everywhere. I have MY16 and have never seen another one
Stunning machine
1000? more like 80
Polestar Wes I've heard Volvo are disappointed in their sales and the market reaction - have you heard that? Any long-term annoyances with yours? Also, do you have the V60 or S60 ?
seppo nurmi that's 2015 numbers. They up it for 16 and 17 to 750. I was wrong about 1000. 246 to US and the rest everywhere else
acchaladka I doubt there disappointed with Polestar sales. That's why they make such a small amount. 750 units is smaller than Lamborghini production. They will sale every Polestar they make. Reliability wish my car has been great. Not a issue in 1 year of ownership. This is a older platform so all the problems have been worked out. The 2017 has the new 4 cylinder so I can't comment on that, but my inline 6 has been bulletproof. Now the XC90 is selling very well and the new XC60 will be on sale this fall and it looks like a hit. Great things are happening for Volvo
I really like estate cars also turbo sound with environment great, thank you Thomas you are number 1
appreciated as always!
Thanks for the segment times, it helps if one doesn't have a lot of time.
u can also try speed 1.25
I am very interested in the Polestar brand, I would LOVE to see a Polestar version of the new S90. any news on this?
On the way
s90 polestar coming next year :)
i dont
thats not a polestar, its only tuned by polestar.
great test!
Great review, thank you! I've been looking at this vs Golf R, here in Canada. I'm single and don't need the cargo space but I love everything about the Polestar except the price and fuel economy. (And I own a Golf TDI so that's another strike against as I'm bored of the Golf.) The Polestar sounds great and looks great in blue; I'm looking at V60 over S60 and thinking to wait for the new infotainment.
Finally, I'd like to see you do a review on Colorado /Alberta mountain roads to see if you still think that scenery is 'best in the world'. ;)
i d love to go there =)
I'm cross shopping those exact same cars myself haha.
I want a V90 Polestar with this motor.
Rediscover Film t6 is available for that with polestar tuning 350HP.
Thank you Thomas, yet another excellent concise review!
I am of course partial to the Rebel Blue V60 sportwagon (sexvagn) version; I have a rebel '15 V60 T6 R-Design with sublime 3.0 T6 inline 6 cylinder. Difficult for me to appreciate the new raucous Drive-e replacement, no matter how much horsepower, except for perhaps the lighter weight over the front wheels for less nose dive, maybe quicker reflexes on the tight curves . A slight savings in average fuel consumption hardly compensates for the loss in engine torque, sound and general refined character.
My advice: find a 2016 Polestar with the 6 cylinder (unless you have the tax penalties), or wait a few months for the 2017 V90 T6-e R-Design, for probably similar money. That modernized roomier Volvo (in Bursting Blue) is a better all around car, though unfortunately also with the little 2.0L 4 cylinder engine like this Polestar (less HP but can opt for hybrid); that's the only choice going forward. Ciao!
+Pete Jr thanks pete!
I would love to purchase a new s80 or s60 but sadly it's just to much money!i drove a s 80 a couple of years ago and it had the most comfortable seats that I had ever sat in!i love the new s80 and s60'beautifull styling and excellent fuel economy with the new 4 cylinder turbo charged and supercharged.thats what I call havin you're cake and eating it to!!!keep up the great stylin cues Volvo!!!!!
The only thing that I don't like in this car is this rims. The blue color is just awesome! :)
I would take that rebel blue s60 easily!!!
Thomas - thank you for another of your great review on this Volvo. I have never owned one yet! But I had a Volvo sport type wagon for rental while my Porsche were in warranty work. It was a good driving car (in the 97-98). Still remember I noticed the response on the interior electronic buttons(a/c, radio etc) are slower than a German cars.(Mercedes and Porsche)
My thought of a Volvo image has been a family, some what conservative type car.(1980's). As my first car was a BMW 325e, it was a very good driving car.(solid built, functional and sound good on engine Rev).
But this v70 look pretty good, sound pretty good too from your video demo. I think I may go test drive it to see and let you know.... definitely a wagon for my choice. Btw, how is this v70 compare to a Subaru Outback 3.5 6 cylinder ? Please let me know your opinion...
hey m8, thanks, checked out Outback review? th-cam.com/video/bMvQv2-oXVs/w-d-xo.html
360p, we meet again. Gotta wait a bit.
amazing review thx for sharing. Missing the V5 and V6 btw... better soundtrack.
thanks pal !
Wtf? Volvo hasnt ever made v6 and v5 doesnt even exist lol. They has made inline 5 and inline 6
very nice but I would prefer it with the old 6 inline, or with the 5 cylinder 2.5 turbo the same from the focus rs 350
I'd rather take the 2.4L 5 cylinder from the 2001-~2008 S60, Sound is amazing.
Im really looking into this car but then the older one with the 3 litre however I have a question, do you have to shift manually if you want to use the exhaust lip?
if you want yes, dont have to.
Superb scenery, great road. And good video, and interior detail. As always. Many thanks. You ask for opinions? My opinion: I like the car; I prefer the Estate body-shell; I don't go for the gloomy, cramped and low-looking interior, and I prefer a lighter interior; 60,000 Euro seems a lot of money to pay for an 'old-generation-car'; a really sporty car with a great noise, but on really bad back roads or on bad surfaced city streets at low speeds, surely the ride must be uncomfy? Many thanks, Thomas - great work.
+gordon bennett 👌
Thanks for the review.
Great looking car not too much plastic and spoilers although I think the wheels are getting just too big almost to the point of being ridiculous.
For me the sedan for me is much more pleasing to look at.
thanks alex!
Maguenifico carro muito lindo o Rei dá estrada maguenifico
It drones a little, actually, when not working hard. I prefer the 6.
Hello Thomas!! Huge fan from India!! Wonderful work on the channel!
Quick question..Are they bringing the Thor's hammer to the s60 anytime soon??
Thanks a lot!
thanks man! I dont think so, they ll leave it for the new model introduction
Thanks a lot for the quick reply. Waiting for the review of the all new 5 series!
In Germany the price difference vs R design really doesn't make sense! Even the base model with the sport package is fun to drive and quick.
I think the 2015 model with the straight six sounds much better. Overall, still a great car but i would go for the 15' model than the 16 with that sound.
Great review Thomas! I should be picking up my V60 Polestar in Rebel Blue next week. In North America, the windshield heater is not included so we are lucky in that we won't have to deal with that visibility issue you described in the video.
Finally, I'm glad to hear you liked the sound of the new Polestar Engine. There's a lot of Volvo purists screaming about this very topic. The old Polestar had a V6 so of course it's going to sound a little more fuller, but the 2017 model sounded pretty good here. Did you ever get a chance to drive the older Polestar? Schöne Grüße aus Kanada!
merci! and you ll have a lot of fun with it :)
No didnt drive the old one
The old Polestar had one of the nicest (inline) 6 cylinder turbo engines ever produced, and sounding amazing with the variable sport exhaust. This Drive-e 2.0 4 cylinder with turbo and supercharger barely out-produces the single turbo AMG 2.0. It certainly doesn't sound as good as the inline 6, or the AMG 4, for that matter. The expense implies there is something more refined/premium under the hood, but sadly there is not.
it is an awesome car - super sports car disguised as a family car
Looking to make the '18 V60 Polestar make next car within the next few years. I just bought a Civic EX-T earlier this year, so I gotta wait a bit. It just doesn't do it for me though. I'm a sucker for a nice sport station wagon! I hear some people say that Volvo won't be having the Polestar trim after 2018 because of the branch off. That's why I'd be looking at a used. Is that true?
Travis Sellers Hi it is true. 2018 was the last series, the 2018 cars are numbered and production of s/v combined was 1500 worldwide. I have a V60 polestar from 2018. I do recommend it. Entertainment is a bit outdated, but it drives really well and is extremely comfortable, especially compared to my 2017 wrx. Its not a raw sports car more like a powerfull luxury cruiser : ) But its ultrasafe and perfect for a family with dogs. 2018 is also differenr to this car, it has a carbon spoiler pack which provides 40% more downforce (and the sidesplitter just looks ill) and also carbon mirrors.
The one thing is that they are extremely expensive to maintain only original parts are available (set of front brake rotors is over 1000 usd) for example. Some engine parts are not available anymore (for example the turbo is not made anymore) and so on. Bare in mind also that minimum rim size is 19” and 19 or 20 winter tires are not exactly cheap.....
That looks like a road I'd like to be drive on. Where was this press-drive filmed?
I think I did mention in the review, even twice :)
Sorry, I may have missed it. Will watch it again. Looks like perhaps Austria: Grossglockner?
Nice, good choice :)
Beautiful scenery indeed, one of the very great spots in the Alps, so worth to watch it FULL LENGTH! =)
Hi Thomas, can you tell me the exact size of the standard Volvo Polestar rims / wheels?
245/35 R20
20x8.0
Do u know when the air "CLEAN ZONE" started being offered?
Hm couple of years ago
Nice and good car, but the dashboard is out of date. Those phone numbers on the middle console, that is realy old fassion.
By the way, veryy good review
Oh no Thomas, what happened to FULL HD? It's only full screen and full length now :(
TH-cam is still processing. Wait 15 minutes, enjoy full HD.
OK, now i have 720p. Cheers!
Pretty disappointed that Volvo didn't upgrade the interior, also those alloys look like a nightmare to clean! +autogefühl do you prefer the 2.0 or the 3.0 version?
+Scott Thompson 3.0 wont be avail anymore!
+Autogefühl can't you buy second hand cars over there? That's the best way to be sustainable 👍🏾
Ich fahre nen V60 D2 (BJ: 2015) und bin sehr zufrieden.Das beste Auto was ich jemals hatte!Die Polestar Version is ja ganz nett aber die neuen Modelle sind am Weg und bitte wer gibt da noch 70k für ein altes Modell aus? Für mich steht Volvo für Sicherheit,Elegance,Komfort und ein geschmeidiges Fahrgefühl und da brauche ich bestimmt keine 370 PS für ^^
vielen dank für das feedback !
Test drive the jaugar F-pace
sure!
+Odette Ickua TH-cam search Jaguar f-pace autogefuehl and you will find a lot of reviews on this one
I love the new Volvos (90 Series), but the 60 and 40 series have aged considerably in comparison.
I would agree. The future is bright though, by 2020 the volvo xc90 is supposed to be the oldest car in their entire lineup.
60 and 40 series also drive like shit. 70 series and up are good cars.
If they update the interior to look like the XC90's I will totally buy it
I own S60CC 2017 and i tell you it's pretty solid and performance is pretty high.
Nothing lags, no delays, etc, probably even better than all this touch-style shit.
I've tried Mondeo 2017 touch display and it was terribly slow. It can piss anyone off.
Tomorrow new volvo v60 is coming but i like this interior more where you have these buttons and no touch screen
"Estate" is the better design. Wish we'd gone with that.
Heated front wind shield isn't available in US so won't be able to comment on it.
Great car but i would prefer v40 ;)
I hate the taillight design of the Volvos. Definitely winning my heart if they fix that and put more modern spirit in the interior
the color reminds me of the focus rs
Rebel Blue has been around since 2013
Or Swedish racing green as its affectionately known.
my dream.
For some reason my video is pegged at 360p :( Not sure what the problem is there but its annoying! :)
TH-cam is still processing. Wait 15 minutes, enjoy full HD.
who knew, thanks!
Which colour would I pick? Those prices, neither! Sorry but price they’re asking just can’t be justified at almost 3 times the price of a S60....I mean if they’re we’re going from (and the presenter used the Mercedes comparison) a e350 to e55 and saying it’s double the price...we get that..However, a 70hp upgrade, with a moderate interior (manual steer column??) and exterior upgrades...at $85K US or $103k CND Volvo is a little full of themselves imho. Swedes..go figure.
Why is it when you listen to a German explain something, you feel like you are about to be shot by firing squad at dawn.
Nice volvo by the way
Sedan
Estate in blue
i hate front glass heating system
must be time for the nice blonde lady to do a review by now?
+a cole check our initial vw passat b8 review :)
Nostradamus odly didn't mention sh*t about anyone becoming a professional at reviewing cars on the TH-cam.
There was a whole lot got past him. [!]
That plain jane boring interior betrays an otherwise lovely looking vehicle.
good review but your putting me to sleep. zzzz
i don't like the interior
both, hahaha
This guys voice makes me wanna sleep
All the "Polestar" badging everywhere is tacky and unsophisticated.
Interior is so boring, just compare it to Audi A4... but in overall aspect this car is great, really good choice imo.
Oh... and this little display, please make it a little bit bigger. Volvo's multimedia is outdated, we're in 2016.
kordax mint look at the volvo xc90, s90 or v90 then you seein which year volvo is!!
kordax mint Yes, but the new
60 series also very modern like the 90 series. ;)
I own S60CC T5 2017 (with no touch display and stuff) and it's not even close to Mercedes or Audi interiors.
It's good car for it's price, probably one of the best choices, if not the best...
but WTF are you talking about? What does new Volvo series has to do with the fact, that Volvo interior is outdated compared to Audi/Mercedes/BMW?
When new S60 series will come, Audi, Mercedes and BMW will advance again.
Still love my S60CC, i'll never exchange it for Audi or Mercedes.
kordax mint I mean that the current s60/v60 are from 2010 and only have got a little facelift in 2013 and thats why it look so old and isn't a big competitor to the current c-class mb... But when the NEW s60/v60 will come out mb, bmw and audi will have a very big competitor.
Well tomorrow comes bew v60 with your shitty touch screen the interior might look boring but i like it i dont like touch screens but wtf you are talking about audi has giod interior like wtf audi hasnt done nothing with their interior its from 2006 audi certainly hasnt made boring interior they made it so ugly that its not even broing when you get sick of the interior brilliant!
The estate is very nice aesthetically. The saloon looks a bit awkward.
i hate front glass heating system