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  • @TheKaappari
    @TheKaappari 5 ปีที่แล้ว +506

    He is so happy to explain sky claw's stats every time.

    • @Arrakiz666
      @Arrakiz666 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      It's Hearthstone's equivalent of the Pot of Greed.

    • @projectx5154
      @projectx5154 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      But everytime he forgets that enemy can just trade into sky claw and it's just 3/4 not 5/4

    • @TripleMasterA
      @TripleMasterA 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@projectx5154 If you are an aggro deck then you will have a 1 drop and 2 drop.

    • @joniisnutrisious
      @joniisnutrisious 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jätkä on aika homo :Dd

    • @TheKaappari
      @TheKaappari 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joniisnutrisious Hey alright.

  • @EDoyl
    @EDoyl 5 ปีที่แล้ว +438

    Value Rogue every year: "This time for sure!" -> turns into a 1/1 squirrel

    • @AtlasTurner
      @AtlasTurner 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This time for sure! lol always a squirrel

    • @redmist8405
      @redmist8405 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This time I will prove you are wrong.

    • @redmist8405
      @redmist8405 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Value Rogue going to be one of the best decks

    • @momojunior6768
      @momojunior6768 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      ???????? I’m saying

    • @TheDisarminghinkle
      @TheDisarminghinkle 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @heeey eeey I've never spent a single cent on Hearthstone, and I have no trouble building every deck I want to build.

  • @milos1967
    @milos1967 5 ปีที่แล้ว +167

    Descent of dragons: the set where increadable cards that would see play in any other expansion don't see play because the other cards are even MORE insane

    • @bird3713
      @bird3713 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Milo S he mentioned this when talking about Druid’s Breath of Dreams. It was one of the earlier cards revealed, and trump more or less said “I’m calling it now- Dragon Druid is tier 1”. Little did he realize the insanity that was to be revealed later.

    • @SeventhSolar
      @SeventhSolar 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I partially disagree. The classes he reviewed in this video were weak by their own merits. None of these cards would have seen play in standard even before the month of Evolve Shaman.

    • @perryb.2732
      @perryb.2732 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bird3713 to be fair, I think he's still right despite his opinion change

  • @war_pigeon
    @war_pigeon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +169

    I've been trying to make value rogue work for 4 years and no one is going to stop me from dying on my value rogue hill

    • @Noobie2k7
      @Noobie2k7 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I meaan anything's going to do it it's a 7 manaa draw 2 backstab, 2 shadowstep, make them cost 0 lol. Because you know if you have any of those left in your deck those are exactly the cards you will draw with Galakrond

    • @Noobie2k7
      @Noobie2k7 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Roxio Forsen4ever I was kidding somewhat. I just feel like Rogue is really the only class that doesn't have a decent deck already worked out for the expansion. I'm sure there is one out there. But their cards seem to be about adding loads of Lackey's and cheap cards to hand but then the Galakrond also draws you upto 4, so you want a mostly empty hand to do that. So i'm not sure where the synergy is lol, or the win condition.

    • @daniellucas5522
      @daniellucas5522 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Nothing stopping you from dying is pretty much the story of value rogue.

    • @Noobie2k7
      @Noobie2k7 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Seems Rogue's just been given more tools for Miracle Rogue without being given a win condition for miracle rogue.

    • @trickygriffongaming3473
      @trickygriffongaming3473 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hear me out: Malygos coin lab recruiter, Galakrond. Use myras and auctioneers to reach the bottom of your deck. Somehow don’t die. It’s insanely impractical, but super fun

  • @sageq45
    @sageq45 5 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    As a Rogue main, I'm really looking forward to all the Neffrium Popsecurry shenanigans.

    • @instrumentaltiger5633
      @instrumentaltiger5633 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Im really hyped to try it and the new egg in a deathrattle rogue

    • @0IIIIII
      @0IIIIII 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If your rank is below 10 your opinion doesn’t matter

    • @inefabling
      @inefabling 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@0IIIIII imagine picking a fucking phone game as the thing you're going to be pretentious and exclusionary about

    • @AnD333
      @AnD333 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@instrumentaltiger5633 0-0 there's a new egg in this set haven't seen it yet I'm hyped for egg Rouge

    • @instrumentaltiger5633
      @instrumentaltiger5633 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AnD333 Chromatic Egg

  • @ConlanHale
    @ConlanHale 5 ปีที่แล้ว +134

    N E F R I U M P O F F S E R C A R Y

    • @asmahasmalaria8596
      @asmahasmalaria8596 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I will never call the card anything else ever again

    • @prussia9255
      @prussia9255 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      13:25 "Necrium Aposecary"

    • @MikaelMarius
      @MikaelMarius 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      NEFERTITI POSSE CARRY

  • @deltalord6969
    @deltalord6969 5 ปีที่แล้ว +270

    Damn trump really making some bold claims out here

    • @lazerninga
      @lazerninga 5 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      Defile: 1 star

    • @patriousthefallenknight3185
      @patriousthefallenknight3185 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      he must be high off his ass

    • @abcdef9524
      @abcdef9524 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Quest Warlock: 5 stars!

    • @zephyrsaix8319
      @zephyrsaix8319 5 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      we really live in a society were people still do defile 1 star trump memes in 2019

    • @awesometown1000
      @awesometown1000 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      When everything is strong as shit, you gotta go hard

  • @jamismiscreant7514
    @jamismiscreant7514 5 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    Unbelievable that now that trump finally called value rogue bad now it has to be good

  • @Ishsa
    @Ishsa 5 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Does Flick destroy a hero jaraxxus if it hits a jaraxxus in play?

    • @jacobogomez1907
      @jacobogomez1907 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What are you high on? pls share

    • @TheNegronomicon
      @TheNegronomicon 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably seeing as how you can still kill him as a hero with the destroy demon spell.

    • @ImMicku
      @ImMicku 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I would say probably not

    • @fianchetto4987
      @fianchetto4987 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TheNegronomicon thats actually good question, maybe u cant target hero it but if he has jaraxxus both on field and as hero maybe its possible

    • @Willowisp927
      @Willowisp927 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      No one uses Jaraxxus anymore so, whatever.

  • @kannachan2744
    @kannachan2744 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    These are actually more realistic ratings based on the power level of all cards in the set and how they impact current decks. I like it.

  • @lorantkutnyanszky3210
    @lorantkutnyanszky3210 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    :( But I like the wax chinken.

    • @gloomylobster111
      @gloomylobster111 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Nobody is stopping you from using the waxy chicken. Show them the power of wax nuggets

  • @Junebug89
    @Junebug89 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Sand Breath is lowkey so disappointing compared to all the other breaths

    • @luminous3558
      @luminous3558 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah its really awkward.

    • @Crawver
      @Crawver 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's biggest issue is the lower cost a dragon synergy card is, the more likely it is to fail. Especially as a buff. If we assume we want to play cards earlier, especially when a +1/+2 is more relevant, it becomes more variable as to whether you have a dragon in hand by turn 2 or 3, compared to turn 5 or 6 where you have more time to draw into one.
      I could have seen a world where it gets run at 1 in a few decks if it didn't have the dragon tag, but with it, it becomes too unreliable.

    • @kuro13wolf
      @kuro13wolf 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not to mention the best and possibly only early game dragon we have can't be targeted by spells or hero powers.

  • @yejifanboy1981
    @yejifanboy1981 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Bronze Explorer: Battlecry: Give your opponent's next minion "+4/+4" and rush

  • @MichaelSmith-zw5fu
    @MichaelSmith-zw5fu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +164

    "is this time for value rogue to rise? No..."
    It never is.
    Value rogue will never have a chance, unfortunately.
    Will that stop me from playing it?
    Hell no.

    • @spartica7720
      @spartica7720 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Michael Smith I love playing value rogue, I just really wish it had a few more control tools. RIP vanish, gone but not forgotten.

    • @PrimeGamator
      @PrimeGamator 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It doesn't matter how off or in-meta it is, it's always going to be a blast to play it

    • @Nick.Georgiev
      @Nick.Georgiev 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The day they make Value Rogue possible is the day they add a Taunt Murloc.

    • @chidzhustle3570
      @chidzhustle3570 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      haha agreed, i literally play it every time and obliterated by everything else. but its the fun that counts

    • @joaovictor_of
      @joaovictor_of 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@spartica7720 It will happen when Blizzard gives rogue the shaman treatment: cards that cover the class's weakness.
      "Card generation is shaman's weakness" hahahah that aged pretty badly.

  • @eksskellybur
    @eksskellybur 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    We did it, boys: We have the best name title ever in hearthstone for a class:
    *PALADIN PALADIN*

  • @eelshark12345
    @eelshark12345 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    So what we learned today is that Control-Dragon Paladin is going to dominate the meta

    • @MrKenilles
      @MrKenilles 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I sure do hope so, Paladin has been a seriosuly weak, bottom tier class for way too many expansions

    • @instrumentaltiger5633
      @instrumentaltiger5633 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Im guessing Pirate Warrior and Galakrond Shaman will be really powerful too

    • @MrKenilles
      @MrKenilles 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Rad It was one of the better clases, but not top of the top. And before that it sucked since secret paladin cards rotated out.

    • @HeloisGevit
      @HeloisGevit 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrKenilles Brah play wild, paladin has the top deck in mech paladin, it is completely broken.

    • @gloomylobster111
      @gloomylobster111 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HeloisGevit Oh yeah, Wild is a thing

  • @fili0938
    @fili0938 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    You misunderstand Galakrond Rogue. It's about getting a huge tempo swing on the turn you play your Galakrond. Draw 4 free cards, maybe one is Togwaggle, he lets you draw another 4 free cards, you play all those cards and it's just a hell of a lot of power. Maybe one is Kronx who let's you deal 5 damage to face as a Battlecry or give your big board +2/+2 or you summon an 8/8 with Taunt or you could clear the board. Galakrond Rogue is about huge tempo swings, not Value.

    • @gloomylobster111
      @gloomylobster111 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Or you don't which makes you cry as your opponent starts insinuating that they slept with your mother leaving you mentally scarred until your best friend cheers you up. You start to grow feelings for them and eventually grow the nerve to confess but they reject you saying they're, "With someone". Then just when you thought you hit rock bottom, your mother walks out and her and your best friend drive off into the sunset all the while laughing, "Galakrond Rogue" leaving your alone, scared, and motherless

    • @mawillix2018
      @mawillix2018 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Filip Holm
      Don't worry, you can play Galakron Miracle Rogue, that Trump almost constructed, gave up, and went on to theory craft other decks.

    • @fosso8803
      @fosso8803 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      A lot of investment for a huge inconsistent tempo swing

    • @fili0938
      @fili0938 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fosso8803 I came with a couple of examples. As long as the 4 cards you draw aren't shit it's a great tempo swing. Ofcourse some cards like Togwaggle and Kronx could make it an even bigger swing.

  • @lesiegelad
    @lesiegelad 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Rogue may have some weak tools beyond tempo, but the memes look fun as hell. BEHOLD MY INFINITE WAXADRED ARMY

    • @joaovictor_of
      @joaovictor_of 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      We always have to stick with meme decks or tempo, which is the only archetype ever for a class that dies to anything because it lacks taunt, heal or board clears.
      :(

    • @lisamatveeva9688
      @lisamatveeva9688 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I still can't get over HoFing Vanish. Such flavorful card that also widened the class's possibilities! It was clearly because of Zephrys not "class identity"

    • @joaovictor_of
      @joaovictor_of 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lisamatveeva9688 Wow, I have never considered that Zephrys could have been one of the reasons behind it

    • @lisamatveeva9688
      @lisamatveeva9688 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joaovictor_of To be honest they could have just excluded Vanish from the Zephrys pool just like Shadowstep and the pandas, so that that was maybe a stretch on my part. Anyway, there is always Wild where I can Vanish my Coldlight Oracles to my heart's content. Unless they get Explosive Rune'd and the Vanishes Counterspelled, of course.

  • @ProfessorZtar
    @ProfessorZtar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I can't wait to play Galakrond Jenkins OTK Priest.
    Weaver x2 to make Leeroy, Grave Rune, and Smite cost less (3, 2, 2, 0 to be precise), then:
    Leeroy, hit face, Rune x2, smite the leeroy, hit face for a total of exactly 30 damage.
    The galakrond stuff will help you stay alive until you draw the combo, and can sometimes win by itself.

    • @rheyn8356
      @rheyn8356 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I was actually considering Fate Weaver, Leeroy, Embalming Ritual, Grave Rune and Wretched Reclaimer. Also a 30 damage face combo without needing both Grave Runes, making it a bit more flexible imo.

    • @jakelewis2267
      @jakelewis2267 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      And I can’t wait to take a win from you

  • @SodGrass
    @SodGrass 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Paladin: 0:00
    Priest: 4:30
    Rouge: 9:44

  • @joaovictor_of
    @joaovictor_of 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I'm so tired of Blizzard giving rogue players insane late game cards just to have to play aggro/tempo because they won't give us survavibility tools for some reason while classes like warrior and shaman get to do whatever they want.

    • @AnD333
      @AnD333 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yah it's really sad, cards like academic and Tak are great it's just a miracle if you survive to play them, they got rid of the only good board clear that wasn't even a board clear...

    • @ImMicku
      @ImMicku 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AnD333 They got rid of every option rogue had for board clears

    • @joaovictor_of
      @joaovictor_of 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ImMicku Yes, except for fan and Blade flurry (which is much more expensive than it should be considering how conditional it is)

    • @haes9594
      @haes9594 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rogue with heal and board crear is insane. Control deck can do nothing against her.

    • @Willowisp927
      @Willowisp927 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *Hint *hint Maybe it's called class identity? Rogue was never supposed to be good against multiple enemies or healing lol

  • @lawsontse1545
    @lawsontse1545 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Galakrond does have win codition in the form of dumping your entire hand of invoke generated minion with princessTalanji

    • @kendakyu5081
      @kendakyu5081 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lawson Tse yeah but it’s a bit underwhelming and inconsistent. Chances that even if you have a Tal and seance in hand, not only do most classes have a way to deal with that kind of board multiple times but you would have to give them time for you to get your hand filled with minions again. That alone might take you 3 to 4 turns in which you can’t play the cards you got from your hero power or heal because your hero power changed. Idk maybe I’m thinking about this from a skewed perspective but it just seems so lackluster

  • @Mrbolinea
    @Mrbolinea 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's both funny and sad that the only thing Blizzard seems to have in mind for Priest's class identity, going by the last few expansions, is that their only late game option is to keep clearing the board until you hopefully die of boredom.

  • @j-rodjarredvenema9513
    @j-rodjarredvenema9513 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amber Watcher is 5 stars. It is not dependant on the dragon tag or heal synergy. You play it as a 4/6 antique healbot in every single midrange or control paladin.

    • @ganthc
      @ganthc 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      J-ROD Jarred Venema yeah, he’s going to get burned on that rating hard. That card is insane!

  • @TreEpicFoehl
    @TreEpicFoehl 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Priest got some underwhelming cards? I'm so surprised that never happens.

    • @Willowisp927
      @Willowisp927 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Go play wild if you like to hear 'Greetings.' so much then. Priests mechanics are obnoxious by nature.

  • @jsparks1787
    @jsparks1787 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    14:20 For once Trump admits there is no value rouge.

    • @timurashurov1569
      @timurashurov1569 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      People will never learn to type rogue, will they? KEKW

    • @l3l723
      @l3l723 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      There never was

  • @xanithdegroot5407
    @xanithdegroot5407 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think that grave card could be OP in rez priest. Put it on your katut defender or catrina to stack your rez pool with your best minions.

  • @rezzy9159
    @rezzy9159 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think Trump is underrating the Galakrond priest a bit. Imagine all the minions you generate throughout the game, all the possible big things. Your endgame would essentially be Princess Talanji, seance, generate more minions, Talanji, seance, then generate more, then Talanji another time. You can have that pressure combined with Catrina Muerte and Mass Resurrections, throw in a possible wall-package (big hp minions with divine spirit and inner fire), or a control package or a dragon package or whatever you want, I think it’d be a Tier 2 deck at least.

  • @kale1602
    @kale1602 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Does Sanctuary proc if you lose armor (as in, after you play the 3/4 legend)?

    • @EerieDreary
      @EerieDreary 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Considering that Thekal's text says 'convert' instead of 'deal damage' I'd imagine Sanctuary still procs.

    • @waffleninja5353
      @waffleninja5353 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Blair Rennex
      That is not a valid example as Thekal affects your current health, not armor.

    • @Croutonking65
      @Croutonking65 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Kyle Presting it shouldn’t proc if you take damage, whether it’s to your health or your armor

  • @TheRottenPear95
    @TheRottenPear95 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Btw blizz nerfed preparation to create more design space :)

    • @ImMicku
      @ImMicku 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Reminds me of the blade flurry nerf

  • @calebbrown1068
    @calebbrown1068 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Paladin getting more random garbage that COULD actually push an archetype if Blizzard were consistent buuuuuuut-

    • @gloomylobster111
      @gloomylobster111 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Eventually an archetype named Junk Pally which consists of all the random tidbits from the previous ranks shall be made

    • @calebbrown1068
      @calebbrown1068 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gloomy Lobster That archetype’s just called Paladin’s ‘meta’ /library atm

    • @noname-ng6sj
      @noname-ng6sj 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      waah waah blizzard is bad i'm better waah wahhh

    • @Willowisp927
      @Willowisp927 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Paladin mostly always has a competitive meta deck, so I guess Blizzard is doing right on spot.

    • @luminous3558
      @luminous3558 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Willowisp927 paladin is either tier 1 or tier 8 rarely in between

  • @benjaminfink8393
    @benjaminfink8393 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think I am putting Zerek in my Galakron priest deck, the deathrattle summon 2 feels pretty unfair to throw on Zerek, and many of the control cards can help keep the enemy board empty to keep attacking.

  • @Doom1461
    @Doom1461 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't really agree with Grave Rune's rating there is alot of good taunts in Priest that would be a pain if your opponent got 2 additional copies of! I see at more as a draw two spell for a specific minion.

  • @newpgaston6891
    @newpgaston6891 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    13:57 Pretty sure Dragon's Hoard will see enough play to warrant 2 stars just because people like to discover stuff, especially when it's big flashy stuff like legendaries.

  • @ICHBinCOOLERalsJeman
    @ICHBinCOOLERalsJeman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is why I love Trump's card ratings, he is never afraid to make bold statements about the upcoming meta, both risking to be completly wrong, but also opening himself up to discovering the sleepers of the expansion, where other streamers wouldn't even dare to tread.

  • @walrider8073
    @walrider8073 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the heal 8 paladin dragon will see play in otk paladin, you might run one copy of it, it buy you time and allows you to safe time out or board clears

  • @Codeblueninja
    @Codeblueninja 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Value Rouge may not work but combo rouge seems very viable. Malygos and Togwaggles Scheme for 5 or more. Then on the next turn Galakrond to draw 4 0 mana Malygos. On the same turn you can play Eviscerate and Sinster Strike for 47 damage.

  • @dreamscape9590
    @dreamscape9590 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    waxadred plus shadow clones and necrium apothecary is alot of fun, especially if you throw grave rune into the mix

  • @Noobie2k7
    @Noobie2k7 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm putting a small Galakrond package, Fate Weavers and Grave Rune in my Ressurect OTK Priest deck. Along with Sathrovar. Get just 1 cost reduction onto a Catrina Muerte, Grave Rune, and Sathrovar or Seance aand you'll basically have an infinite wall of Taunts and Catrina Muerte's until you can just otk with Divine Spirit+Inner Fire.

  • @apoman8222
    @apoman8222 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any card that adds a card on your opponents deck destroys the no neutral archetype?

  • @dragonlogos1
    @dragonlogos1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think he is underestimating the miracle rouge archetype the possibility of drawing 7 cards reduced to 0 (galakrond, togwaggle) plus the coins plus the lackey tempo there has to be a viable burst build somewhere in there.

  • @water2770
    @water2770 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I mean control priest could just use Hakkar Wyrmrest Purifier to close out games. Aggro decks will either win fast or lose once they run out of steam, midrange could just be outvalued, other control decks that dont run wyrmrest or some way to get rid of cursed blood eventually succumb while both decks control each other.

    • @gloomylobster111
      @gloomylobster111 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or Priests could just pick a better class

    • @luminous3558
      @luminous3558 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are also multiple fateweaver otk combos to pick from.

  • @Crawver
    @Crawver 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly I think because apothecary is so good, it's going to drag waxidread with it into good decks.Simply because it has really good stats for it's mana, so isn't a "bad" card by itself, and has one of the better deathrattles that gets stronger the more times you trigger it. Trump is right that whelp is probably the best deathrattle for the card, but you need more than 2, otherwise you have high chances that apothecary ends up missing a target.

  • @shsourov
    @shsourov 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    no streaming for 3 days? does anybody know what is his schedule ??

  • @thebigyes8482
    @thebigyes8482 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ive wanted control dragon pally to work since the start of the year, but it doesn’t look good does it? Strange that one of only two classes with dragon synergy before DoD will likely come out with the ~2nd worst dragon deck.

  • @robbedoes77
    @robbedoes77 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well apart from control warrior and warlock, the two other decks I intend building are control paladin and priest anyways :)

  • @usuallychill
    @usuallychill 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think that Rogue Galakrond is higher than a 2 Star unit. Sure, the invoke cards aren't very good. But I think Galakrond Rogue Stage 1 might actually be good enough just to run on it's own if the invoke cards don't turn out to work. Adding a lackey to your hand is good value AND tempo and might just be worth the 7 mana (along with the battlecry of drawing a 0 cost card and the 5 armour gain).

  • @Begeru
    @Begeru 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why did you rate Sanctuary 5 stars? What tier 1/2 Paladin deck does it go in?

  • @xXMoannaoXx
    @xXMoannaoXx 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm so sad that you don't have great ideas for Paladin. I really hoped to play dragon pala again

  • @GirlRot96
    @GirlRot96 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I still think grave runes gonna be huge

  • @kendakyu5081
    @kendakyu5081 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    So what does priest even do now? So they have a dragon control archetype that is so-so compared to other control decks but it lacks pressure and doesn’t have a win condition except to just out live your opponent... I get that this set has good support in wild but what about standard?

  • @WhatMikeisEvolving1
    @WhatMikeisEvolving1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the rating for galakrond rogue is fairly lacking. I think that because Kronk exsists and rogue can easily reuse it's battlecry repeatedly that it can easily be used in a combo deck

  • @ultraginge1990
    @ultraginge1990 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes Paladin has bad control tools unless you cycle for all the combo pieces. But what about a Midrange Dragon Paladin using the new dragons to keep the board forever and beat your opponent down?

  • @rastaelmo
    @rastaelmo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    ah...lowest ratings so far...means its gonna be a tier 1 deck

  • @notabear7866
    @notabear7866 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    otk combo for priest. fate weaver, next turn leeroy, double grave rune, hit face, smite the leeroy, and then gg.

  • @seychellekinghorn117
    @seychellekinghorn117 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Regarding dragon Druid. I think it’s tier one and to see why just add the word malygos to the deck name. You’re already running malygos, Alex, and big ole whelp for sure, so may as well commit to the dragon synergy.

  • @magicggst
    @magicggst 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yo just saying, Talanji is insane with control priest, bc it summons all your minions from hand. And you can just put grave rune on like, a taunt and have the enemy suffer.

  • @jurassicjey4877
    @jurassicjey4877 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I swear this expansion is one of the craziest, really good cards

  • @itskhro
    @itskhro 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Murozond is going to be crazy VS the good mage decks where they will play a ton of cards almost every turn. Im hype.

  • @connorm9156
    @connorm9156 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just for fun, I'm gonna score all the cards using Trump's rating system!
    Paladin
    Sand Breath: 3 Stars
    Bronze Explorer: 4 Stars
    Dragonrider Talritha: 3 Stars
    Nozdormu the Timeless: 2 Stars
    Amber Watcher: 4 Stars
    Righteous Cause: 2 Stars
    Sky Claw: 3 Stars
    Sanctuary: 1 Star
    Lightforged Zealot: 1 Star
    Lightforged Crusader: 1 Star
    Priest
    Galakrond, the Unspeakable: 4 Stars
    Disciple of Galakrond: 4 Stars
    Time Rip: 4 Stars
    Fate Weaver: 4 Stars
    Murozond the Infinite: 2 Stars
    Breath of the Infinite: 4 Stars
    Chronobreaker: 1 Star
    Whispers of EVIL: 2 Stars
    Envoy of Lazul: 2 Stars
    Mindflayer Kaahrj: 4 Stars
    Grave Rune: 3 Stars
    Rogue
    Galakrond, the Nightmare: 4 Stars
    Praise Galakrond!: 3 Stars
    Seal Fate: 4 Stars
    Umbral Skulker: 4 Stars
    Waxadred: 3 Stars
    Necrium Apothecary: 4 Stars
    Candle Breath: 4 Stars
    Bloodsail Flybooter: 4 Stars
    Flik Skyshiv: 4 Stars
    Dragon’s Hoard: 2 Stars
    Stowaway: 2 Stars
    If anyone has questions about my ratings feel free to ask!

    • @ConutGnuz
      @ConutGnuz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      man, i agree with all of this except for amber watcher which i think is a 2 and ill bump apothecary and priest galakrond to 5

    • @connorm9156
      @connorm9156 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Conut Gnuz I’m glad to find another person who thinks that the Priest Galakrond isn’t bad. A lot of people are writing it off because it doesn’t have a definitive win condition, but I think the overall value generation of this card/deck will surprise most of its critics. Plus, think of the amazing finisher of just playing Princess Talanji and summoning all of the priest minions you added to your hand.

    • @ConutGnuz
      @ConutGnuz 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@connorm9156you know, a one-time strong board state isn't enough cuz most classes have a full/semi-full board clear(pyro+equa/twisting nether/brawl/earthquake/mage just having lots of multi hit)
      i remember saying once when zillax came out i said 'glynda crow skin(6 mana minions have echo) + mechwarper × 5 + zillax = 9 mana infinity/infinity basically'
      but the opponent board clears.... now what? same thing with talanji, play it once, seance, take 5-7 turns rebuilding your hand(if you arent dead in the process) which takes time and good cards to drag yourself for an additional 5-7 turns

  • @arturom31
    @arturom31 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Not shure if it will work but, i'm having in mind a highlander otk rogue. We'll see.

    • @KarstenOkk
      @KarstenOkk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      the madman

    • @SmashMyPitchUp
      @SmashMyPitchUp 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Share it, if you've come up with it :)

    • @arturom31
      @arturom31 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SmashMyPitchUp shure i'll share it

    • @fosso8803
      @fosso8803 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It won't work

    • @ImMicku
      @ImMicku 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fosso8803 Doubt that would stop him from trying

  • @christianschipfer1263
    @christianschipfer1263 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    there might be a 'finisher' for control priest: leeroy jenkins + grave rune + holy smite = 18 dmg for 10 mana and 3 cards
    possibly even more dmg with the hand cost reduce dragon

    • @christianschipfer1263
      @christianschipfer1263 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      in fact now that I think about it: If you reduce the cost of your hand by 1 you can do: leeroy jenkins + 2xgrave rune + holy smite = 30 dmg for 10 mana and 4 cards
      there you have your big finisher =) and its not too much of an investment since its only 4 cards and you would play the hand cost reduce dragon anyways

  • @bird3713
    @bird3713 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Combine Waxadred with Anub’arak from Wild for infinite high attack, low health minions. Why is this part of rogue identity?

    • @luminous3558
      @luminous3558 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Waxa isnt really low health for its cost tho.

  • @XDTrae
    @XDTrae 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I packed a golden nozdormu the timeless was really hoping it would get a good rating🤧

    • @gloomylobster111
      @gloomylobster111 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's good (as dust)!

    • @FFAFANBOY
      @FFAFANBOY 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It looks okay in duel paladin if you like that deck

    • @Willowisp927
      @Willowisp927 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If anyone gonna dust the card based on a single streamer reviewing it this early then I guess that person belongs to the dustbin aswell.

  • @MrZimrak
    @MrZimrak 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anyone know exactly what he means when he says tier 1/2/3? I get that tier 1 is best but how does he draw the lines

    • @Grayvas
      @Grayvas 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Trump himself does not draw those lines between tiers. Sites like HSreplay, tempostorm and metastats make these kind of tier list according to winrate and other factors. For example HSreplay considers anything with a winrate of above 50% tier two and anything with more than one standard deviation above that to be tier 1 (and tier 3 being below 50% winrate). Trump is predicting that the deck that he rates will show up as tier 1/2/3 in at least one of these tier list.

    • @waffleninja5353
      @waffleninja5353 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Tier 1 is amongst the best of decks.
      Tier 2 is not as strong as the few tier one decks, but is otherwise still strong.
      Tier 3 is not particularly strong but is cohesive enough to be viable.
      Tier 4 is nearing dank territories and isn’t very good.
      This is pretty vague but that is the gist.

  • @nihil_est_divinum
    @nihil_est_divinum 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My idea - reduce your hand cost with Fate Weaver, Leroy Jenkins, hit face, Grave Rune it, then Penance for 12 more dmg.

    • @nihil_est_divinum
      @nihil_est_divinum 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or if you Fate Weaver twice, that would take 3 mana jenkins, 2 mana Grave Rune x 2 and 0 mana Penance for OTK combo wich deals 30 dmg.

  • @megablaster00
    @megablaster00 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what i (extremely priest fanboy) thinks about galakrond priest:
    FINALLY A DECK WHERE I THINK I CAN PUT PRINCESS TALANJI WITHOUT THE TRASH STEAL CARDS

  • @davidmorton6406
    @davidmorton6406 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    i just don't get how Righteous Cause is 1 star but Sky Claw is 5. Uhm you can proc cause on the same turn you play sky claw, making your turn 3 play a 3 mana 8-8 if skyclaw was your only minion/mech left.

    • @ConlanHale
      @ConlanHale 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You can't assume a card is good purely based on high rolls. For that to happen, you have to
      1) draw and play side quest
      2) summon at least 2 minions
      3) draw sky claw and play while side quest is still active
      What happens when you don't draw side quest? What if you draw side quest but not sky claw? What happens when your opponent clears your minions each turn and you get 1 mana for +1/+1? I'm not saying Trump is infallible (he's not), but it's important to consider all aspects of a card.

    • @darkangel3877
      @darkangel3877 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      classic fallacy of describing the perfect scenario as a reason to run the card
      you can literally apply the same logic to alnost every card in the game

    • @davidmorton6406
      @davidmorton6406 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ConlanHale I mean the intent is that it's put in an aggro deck, the same thing you said here can be said about the other 3 mana 8-8 situations we've had in the Past, hand warlock, the most recent mage decks with mountain giant. The same thing can happen if they don't high roll, or they can get it cleared if they run into an instant kill like a priest with Death, but they were all still t1 decks. So whats your point? In an aggro deck, if you don't draw side quest, your aggro deck plays like normal ( plus thats not the only +1/+1 aoe card pallies have. ) If you dont draw sky claw you buff all your other 1 mana and 2 mana cards your deck is filled with and it's still great stats for anything agressive or token. There's tons of token cards that can be run with it on top of sky claw, sky just has decent synergies with other mechs. The chances that after a mulligan if you're running 2 copies of each, that are you don't start with one of these in your hand is actually pretty slim too. like you'll start with one of these 2 cards 4 times out of 5.
      also what aoe clears are people running before turn 5?

    • @luminous3558
      @luminous3558 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you topdeck any of the quests you just cry. There is a reason the normal quests start in your hand.

  • @GrimmerPl
    @GrimmerPl 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can we call "paladin paladin" a Stratholme paladin? Because you need to purge those filthy neutrals!

    • @trebull2284
      @trebull2284 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Needs more likes tbh

  • @benzur3503
    @benzur3503 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ye ole: “5 step strong cards for an archetype? Nah archetype won’t work” trump review

    • @etherealg3940
      @etherealg3940 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      if you're talking about Dragon Paladin he's 100% right though - no way that turns out to be a high-tier constructed deck

  • @VlaadPalownik
    @VlaadPalownik 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This 7/7 for 7 that refills ur hand seems nice, but there is neutral Card for 8 that do it even better, but isnt played that much

  • @vicarrighi
    @vicarrighi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6:54 wrong order

  • @SkipperinoHS
    @SkipperinoHS 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    0:11 stump the trump

    • @chuggarugga3715
      @chuggarugga3715 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Give me your bionicle collection

  • @NoteTheSpaceCowboy
    @NoteTheSpaceCowboy 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Let's be clear, highlander Paladin will be at least tier 3 Trump. Has the extra benefit of having a highlander adventure in Finely and has more than enough cards to make a suitable high tier 3, low tier 2 deck

  • @Cuestrupaster
    @Cuestrupaster 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Someone do a sky golem for the custom cards...

  • @lockingphoenix521
    @lockingphoenix521 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Happy holidays to you and your subs 🎄🎄🔓🔓

  • @flyingtoastr
    @flyingtoastr 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe I'm looking at it differently, but the dragon cards for Paladin seem to fit better in a midrange shell than a control package like Trump thinks. He seems to be forgetting cards like Bronze Herald, Dragon Speaker, and Cathedral Gargoyle that the class already has access to that incentivize a much more proactive dragon Paladin deck than a glance at these would imply. Tempo midrange decks get a lot of use out of buffs, and the pally cards really seem to be focused on that direction of deck over a lategame bomb control deck.
    Not saying it will be good (Shaman looks like it's going to be warping the meta once again), but I think his analysis is flawed.

  • @davidtisserant2229
    @davidtisserant2229 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Paladin dragon/heal control deck will be efficient (i have already tested without the new card and it's work well already, so with all this magnificient synergie, i think players are not ready for the holy purification crusade^^)

  • @ed_2285
    @ed_2285 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Trump continues to make the same mistake as always when reviewing early game cards. When he doesn't like the card he usually uses the argument: "You have to drawn this card, you won't always have it in your hand". Trump, every early game card (except quests) you have to draw, all have the same probability of coming into your hand or not, don't use that as an argument to rate a card.

    • @ImMicku
      @ImMicku 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      the thing is with early game cards, you have to draw them *at the start of the game* as they wont see much use at later stages

    • @ed_2285
      @ed_2285 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      .@@ImMicku Yes, that is the fact. But Trump ignores that when it's a card he gave five stars, as if it didn't matter if you drawn the card or not. But when a card comes that he will give a low rate, he uses this argument of having to drawn the card to justify part of the rating.

  • @Distributable
    @Distributable 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow I wonder which decks Trump thinks are in Tier 1. Better find out the next Rating Video.

  • @artbykennyeulogy7671
    @artbykennyeulogy7671 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    When is the expansion coming live ?

  • @projectx5154
    @projectx5154 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Once Shirvallah rotates out I think Paladin will just be without win conditions besides swarm archetype that somehow always ends up as Paladin's theme

    • @Arrakiz666
      @Arrakiz666 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      On the plus side, Lightforged cards are gonna stay with us for a while, and those are GREAT cards to build a deck around.

    • @luminous3558
      @luminous3558 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Arrakiz666 without full 6 expansions those are gonna suffer.

  • @eepygatto
    @eepygatto 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whispers of evil might be good in a wild with the priest death knight

  • @deltalord6969
    @deltalord6969 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Well my prediction is dragon druid and dragon paladin become tier 0. So let's see who's correct trump.

  • @pratikshah7306
    @pratikshah7306 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Control warrior didnt really have a way to close out the game other than being so degenerate to play against that the opponent just concedes.
    Control priest can actually play threats on board whilst also having enough removal and value to survive, i think it will be a great deck at least tier 2.
    Edit: Also you still have the hakkar/elyssiana play for a few months in standard.

  • @justinhanna9152
    @justinhanna9152 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ur tempo rogue is rather 6 drop heavy

  • @russellcheng1975
    @russellcheng1975 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    why would you ever bet against 2 mana glimmerroot when essentially the same card was played in every priest deck while it was in standard

    • @gamemad999
      @gamemad999 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      My guess is because it's still not an good 2 drop (lol, priest has wanted it for forever) and that by turn 3 you could guess what deck your opponent ran and got a card almost every time.
      This 2 drop picks a card from their hand and 2 cards from their deck and you pick the hand card. All three choices exist in their deck. So it's a matter of luck mostly if you're playing it early.

  • @DiscombobulatingName
    @DiscombobulatingName 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Grave rune might be good on Injured Blademaster.

    • @DiscombobulatingName
      @DiscombobulatingName 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or if you have high priest Amet in play, in which case you can use it on small minions too.

  • @saali6860
    @saali6860 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Every time I see new priest card I always think “Wow! This would be good in Raza priest”
    Then cry myself to sleep

  • @Slasher9485
    @Slasher9485 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Between Necrium Blade, Storm Hammer, and the anchor, I can see the meta going to one point for sure.
    It's slime time.

  • @ClawsMcgee820
    @ClawsMcgee820 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do competitive players on judge cards from a meta standpoint?

  • @TheMysticStrider
    @TheMysticStrider 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Last time I was this early prison Trump still existed

    • @milos1967
      @milos1967 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mystic Strider I miss prison trump

  • @thomasmcd
    @thomasmcd 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Neffium Popsecurry - Combywomby: Drawywaway a Deathwattly cutey-wootsy from you decky-wecky and gainy-wainy it's Deathwattly

  • @pipMcDohl
    @pipMcDohl 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    you should place your microphone closer to you, the sound is not great if you put it too far

  • @NeutralGuyDoubleZero
    @NeutralGuyDoubleZero 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    "Galakrond rogue is not even tier 3"
    Me: *sadness noises*

    • @usuallychill
      @usuallychill 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      tbh i think that even without the invoke cards rogue galakrond may just be good enough to run.

    • @NeutralGuyDoubleZero
      @NeutralGuyDoubleZero 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@usuallychill i really hope youre right cuz rogue based on a dragon hero card is like the second hypest thing for me next to a functioning weapon rogue

    • @trebull2284
      @trebull2284 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Weapon rouge? Please tell me more I actually wanted to do this like 2 years ago but couldn't work it out back then

    • @NeutralGuyDoubleZero
      @NeutralGuyDoubleZero 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@trebull2284 There not much to tell. The closest it came was kingsbane rogue and its been dead ever since.

  • @richard11935
    @richard11935 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Duel paly will be insane with nozdormu

  • @Lucasinbrawl
    @Lucasinbrawl 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I will always call it Neffrium Popsecurry from now on.

  • @Cezarrior
    @Cezarrior 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Leaving the best for last I see...

  • @adammat13
    @adammat13 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would imagine breath of the infinite seeing play in control priest even without dragons, if aggro decks are common. I would have thought it got a 3 star because of that

  • @elisabethbarton8826
    @elisabethbarton8826 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Waxadred is a decently statted minion and could be run just for the high roll potential