The BEST controller you can get right now, period.
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Microsoft has updated Xbox's Design Lab to include ELITE controllers. The Xbox controller is already incredibly versatile, and what could be better than a custom one?
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100% agree, so many quality of life upgrades to a normal controller. I've been using mine for 5-6 years now I think and it's been amazing. The last year or so some of the rubber on the thumb sticks has worn off, but they gave me more of them so I just switched. I really love that I don't need to click in the thumbsticks anymore, for whatever reason that is something that always hurt my thumbs the most over time.
Hey Bob, you should probably do a re-review of this controller a year from now. I only had mine for a year, with what I would consider regular, adult use, and I have rubber lifting from the handles, analog sticks that lost adherence to their shaft, and paddles that do NOT retain the same clickiness/responsiveness as when you first get them. I don't believe the core made any changes to the construction or the components, so I'm willing to bet you're gonna see some problems in the near future.
Yep same here probably gonna have to throw the thing out unfortunately, was amazing but it didn’t last long
Ive not had the issues youre experiencing, but Ive had my Elite s2 for over a year, and my bumpers double register when I click them. I notice it often during racing games when it double upshifts and I lose torque. My analogue sticks may have gotten a tiny bit loose too, but you can adjust the tension and that helped. I also use the soft thumbsticks instead of the default textured ones, they seem to hold up longer for me.
@@aronfaine9457 the bumpers have been the biggest problem for me. They don’t last long at all. I’m on my third one and while I love the controller it’s just not good enough to justify spending all this money on a custom controller I might but be able to get insurance on.
This is what's preventing me from buying one. I know, confirmation bias and all that, but I just keep reading about one too many longetivitiy issues to get one. I'd rather get the new 8BitDo Ultimate one with the Hall effect joysticks.
Waiting for a year after the elite 3 release to see if they're good
I have a white Elite V1 and I love the look without the grips. I also have an original V2 and the tension adjustments is the best part.
Biggest problem with the elite controllers is how much they break. Something will break in 6 months guaranteed. You NEED to get the warranty.
No way you must throw your controller when you rage quit 😅
@@WHYDAFUCKULYING nah I’m on my third one, they just break easy. First one had the thumb stick not click (still registered though), the second one both bumpers would either not register or double register, on my third one in starting to get the bumper issue again. I have gotten the warranty after the first so I can just replace them over and over again
@@WHYDAFUCKULYING No. stick drift and materials degrading like the rubber grips is a huge problem. Ive had to replace mine 3 times under warranty. Its a good controller with serious issues.
@@WHYDAFUCKULYING No, he's right. I've had two malfunction in different ways and I baby my stuff. The first one the RB button stopped registering consistently (which is a shockingly common issue I discovered). My second one has mild stick drifting which I'm sure will get worse with time. Meanwhile, with all my other systems I've never had any other controller ever break on me save for a PS2 controller that just randomly wouldn't respond anymore lol, I have no idea what happened to that thing.
Can back this comment up. I grab a warranty at Best Buy & replace it a few days before it expires. I've had bumpers break, buttons stick, buttons require more pressure, the trigger lock switches breaking off, the grip peeling off, stick drift out of the box, and more. This is all just from regular use. They have severely poor quality control. I'm wondering if that 8bitdo Ultimate Controller is a better purchase.
I bought the original elite controller, twice. Both had issues within a year that led to me basically never using them again. Grip even started peeling off, and I take great care of my tech. Tempted to try this new core model out due to the price, although my Hyperkin Duke has met all my gaming needs and holds up great, just wish it was wireless 😅
Get elite 2 controller
I don't blame you buddy I've had the elite series 2 core for months with no problems at all and I'm having a blast with that controller I actually bought a elite series 1 controller because they are really great and I bought one for £22 and its it's in full working order the bumpers were a wobely but I fixed that
Don't waste your time it WILL have issues out the box
@@TommyT_ mine is still going strong after a few months but a lot of people are having problems witch is strange but I've seen a bunch of videos about a review on the controller and a lot of the boxes was no sealed so that means it was opened before thay got the controller
@@tyicbranch2734 I'm telling you I've had 3 sealed units all have issues before giving up. Had the same with the black elite 2 (which is identical components) I returned 10 of them in total
I bought an elite series 2 for my steam deck setup. Good ergonomics, but feels a little on the small side. When using with the Deck I kept getting dropped inputs on the A button. I thought it was just me, but upon researching online, lots of other people have been going through microsoft support and multiple RMAs with the similar face button issues. I returned mine and decided I would avoid that headache.
I remember there being a LOT of reports of QC issues and poor durability over time with the first run of Elite controllers which is especially egregious given how much they cost. That alone has kept me from even giving them a chance.
This. I’ve been too worried about QC and durability to spend the money on an Elite Controller, and MS have done nothing to alleviate my concerns.
My v2 has been mostly fine, but I've found that every Xbox controller I've used, including the elite (v2) has issues with face button registration. I can repeatedly press buttons (like 'A') at a certain angle and for it to never register a press.
...so I really like it, I just never use it, because I can't trust the face buttons.
@@seank218 as long as they keep using potentiometer sensors and not hall sensors it will most definitely break.
@@al-ww5jp Unfortunately in the Elite Controllers' case the bumpers tend to break first. If you take it apart you'll see that it's a Frankenstein's monster among controllers with weird design choices (likely to save space due to how much they crammed into it).
Would love the extra buttons, but they are just so overpriced, just as all of the extra button ones are, aside from the really crappy ones.
I think it'd need hall effect sticks and gyro for me to want one, but I do like the case with built-in charging and the color customization. I don't care about how well-supported Xbox controllers are. That's primarily been an issue on Windows and maybe macOS (and isn't nearly as bad as it used to be). I think a DualShock 4 would also work on all the same stuff you listed, probably a DualSense too. The Linux kernel has support for all sorts of controllers and has for a long time. I was playing Euro Truck Simulator 2 with a Wii U Pro Controller like a decade ago. I also prefer the Nintendo button layout, but it sounds like you can remap the buttons on the Elite controller to mimic that probably.
Microsoft has been avoiding getting on the gyro train, but they were also the last to put Bluetooth in their controllers, so I think there's still a chance they'll come around. I can't imagine playing shooters with an analog stick after seeing how well gyro works in Splatoon. It's very close to being as good as keyboard and mouse. We'd probably see more games adopt gyro aiming as an option if Xbox controllers supported it.
I love my Elite 2 controller and think the paddles are perfect... or at last I have adapted to where I think they are perfect. The only thing I'd like now is if they would use hall effect sensors instead, that would def tip me over the edge. I do have a slight bit of stick drift on one analog but I guess every controller I have ever had gets stick drift at some point
Love the Xbox controller as primarily a PC user. It just works seamlessly, is built well, feels good to use and lasts seemingly forever. What more could I want!
Same. The base one is pretty much perfect, I've tested controllers from GuliKit and 8bitdo and while they have their advantages, none is as good as a whole as the Xbox one. It's also great that it pairs flawlessly with Xbox, PC, Android and iOS.
Not only that, i also have a Switch and buying a 8bitdo adapter makes the Xbox One controller works there too, flawlessly.
Gyro.
@@mateusu9895 thank you for this, I was looking how to get my xbox elite run on switch. I will definitely pick the adapter now :)
I agree with you 100 percent. I think the Xbox controller is one of the best controllers ever made.
The rubber grips are a game changer IMO. I love them. On your elite controller, I love that you change the color of the xbox color. That's a nice touch.
I always love how Bob walks out at the end of all of his videos. It's like he's saying, "This was a great time we just had, my good viewer. Now, if you'll excuse me, I need resume being a human being and do things like drink water." It's very endearing.
Definitely gonna create a custom one. I don’t want to wear out my halo one any more than I have. It really is gorgeous in person. I’ll probably just use the paddles from the halo one though cause they aren’t anything special really.
Gyro missing is the only thing stopping me from switching to it.
Same. My aim is already hardwired to aim with gyro so sticks only would make me A LOT worse. Maybe somebody (maybe even me) can make a mod or an accessory. Hopefully Microsoft just upgrades it.
Seriously man Microsoft please give us gyro ffs
Gyro is way better if you have capacitive thumb sticks like the Steam Deck or Steam Controller trackpad.
I hate when playing Splatoon where I have to keep pushing the white button to recenter the camera whereas if I release my finger from the joystick on the steam deck I can just move my hand back into the correct position.
I Also would love it if you could have a controller with independently mapable back buttons I don't want them to have to duplicate a different buttons function.
And the speaker and light indicator is missing.
This guy joked his video sounded like an advertisement as if he couldn’t have easily avoided it. There are glaring flaws with Microsoft’s so called premium controllers that he perplexingly refused to bring up. Wulf Den didn’t bother to mention Sony’s upmarket controller will have replaceable joysticks. Gyro is more accurate than sticks, Hall effect joysticks are supposed to be extra precise and reliable. So much for a “pro” controller, last but not least is how behind the times Xbox controllers are. Competitors have the aforementioned features, haptic feedback and the DualSense has the trigger resistance. Microsoft very slightly changed their 9 year old controller and slapped on a price hike.
All this time of owning the Elite 2 I never knew you could adjust the stick Tension. I always found myself going back to the new series controller because I felt my Elite was too loose.
Are you serious
What did you think the little pin inside the case was? 🤣
sometimes ignorant people have way too much money to spend
Great review. I just bought a DUALSENSE and really enjoying it with the added haptics and adaptive trigger. The best!
I'm curious if these thumbsticks are any different from the Elite Series 2. I have returned five or six of them and they all have the same stick click issue. It's hard to describe but the L3 and R3 just won't click when the sticks are tilted in certain directions. Each one seems to behave differently, the "non-click" point will land in a different spot on each controller. I think it has to do with the stick tension mechanism so I don't anticipate these to be any different.
Xbox has always had a pretty great controller. I’m curious to see how the PlayStation “pro” controller will be like for ps5. With me having big hands this has always been a great choice.
I don't think they always made good controllers. The first one (The Duke) was pretty bad. Glad they improved throughout the years though.
I'm intrested too but Sony said Hold My Beer when it came to price. If you think the Xbox controller is expensive...
@@marceloscarvalho7159 The duke was a good controller to me and fit my hands just fine.
PS5 Pro controller battery life is so bad though.
@@Spartan_83 Yeah, the awnser to whether a controller is good or not depends entirely on the person, so you can't really claim that. What I meant to say is that most people think The Duke is bad, so the general consensus is that it's not a good controller, at least to most people.
Bro I like your set up. Felt like you and me chillin in my living room and you talking to me about this controller
His content is so good
Thanks for the review! Any chance you checked the latency of the elite controller? Did it improve or is it still far behind the ps5 controller?
As someone who bought into the controller early (day one) and have tried out many third party options I can confidently say the series 2 elite controller is the best all around and the controller I go back to time and time again. I’ve tried hex, I’ve tried scruff, they’re good, but the elite series 2 is remains great and best on the market in my opinion. The only thing you have to look out for is quality control but from what I can see it’s been better since the initial launch.
So you havent even tried razer? Lol
If you are on pc steam controller is the best option. Period. Had mine for years now and it's still working flawlessly. Better than mouse and kb. No gyro is a massive downside for any controller.
@@10secondsrule unfortunately its discontinued, otherwise I wouldn't be here haha!
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I got a custom Elite 2 and I LOVE it. I got it in purple, teal, and bright green. It looks SICK.
These are the best controllers I've ever used. And they also have the record for the fastest breaking controller. I don't even use mine intensively. A couple hours a day, then the bumpers become unresponsive. It was always the bumpers for me. Lots of other people report tonnes of other issues with buttons and etc. For something so expensive, it shouldn't be this fragile. Unless you want to juggle these things on a warranty, I would not get one unless they fix the build quality issues.
Get a dualsense it's better
@@ooooswain Shut up, pony
Same thing happened to me. It's always the bumpers.
@@ooooswain dualsense should have used double cells instead of internal battery, seriously what an outdated way to play.
Exactly. Had stick drift after a few plays of Cyberpunk. Send it back. Until Microsoft is putting some hall effect sticks in them I'm not buying them again. They feel amazing however.
If there was an Elite controller with leveled sticks, HAL effect joysticks and gyro as I play on PC and use gyro for aiming, I might have actually bought one as I am in the market for an extra controller. Best controller I have owned is the 8bitdo SN30 Pro+ (Succeeded by Pro 2). It works well on my PC, it works well on my Nintendo Switch and I like how it feels in my hand while playing. Only issue I got with it are weak haptics, but I can deal with that.
As good as the Xbox Elite controller is, I can't help but use a Dualsense/Dualshock 4 for most pc games because of the added benefit of gyro and the touchpad. Admittedly, the touchpad doesn't get used all that often, but the gyro is perfect for emulators like Dolphin and Citra and FPS games.
Gyro is for casuals who are ass leakage at aiming. Gimmick wii bs.
@@LongBeach88 it's impossible to have the same aim with stick-only compared to stick + gyro.
@@LongBeach88Objectively wrong
love the series 2 elite controller, but the QC issues are pretty unacceptable for something that costs this much. From experience I'm on my third series 2 elite because the first 2 had issues straight out of the box so they had to bE RMAed. So far the third one has been alright, but it will turn off randomly during games, which is quite annoying but it doesnt happen frequently so i deal with it since its the best controller i've used when its working.
I just subscribed, I’m part of the Wulff pack so to say, cheesy pun aside, i really like your takes on controllers, i am a controller snob. I will pay to get the goods on controllers, cause we know no one is going to give us deals on these often. I like Scuf’s mouse like triggers better, but everything else is nicer on the elite. I did buy dual sense Edge and while it’s better, it’s still a dual sense and feels bad in my hands and i do not like the overall layout as much as the Xbox setup. Great reviews, love the channel and look forward to seeing what you have in store for what should be a great year in gaming.
I own an elite Gen 2 as well as a King Kong Pro 2. They get pretty much equal use. One is in my living room and the other one is connected to my desktop PC. I feel like the joystick experience is very similar and might actually be better on the kkp2. Both controller experiences are very similar however because I don't really use the paddles. I use both controllers mostly to play first person shooter games but I occasionally also play third person RPGs.
The sticks will definitely be better on the KKP2 as theyre hall effect. The8bitdo ultimate uses the exact same ones
Though King kong 2 pro has a significant latency issue. No idea how you didn't notice that.
@@Empty12345 your 'thought'? You actually used one?
@@yarbles66 I meant to write 'though', apologies. I've made research about the controller, because I was thinking about buying it, but didn't because of major latency.
@@Empty12345 don't buy the KK2. Get the 8bitdo Ultimate Wireless- Bluetooth version - also includes 2.4hz USB adapter. The 2.4hz only version does not have the hall sticks, which is the draw of the KK2. They use the exact same hall sticks as the KK2, but the controller is overall better.
If only it had gyro, it would make the decision a no-brainer for me. But it doesn't, so that's a massive tradeoff. Especially since I've become accustomed to the Steam Deck and playing with dual analog + gyro, it just feels better than both dual analog alone and keyboard + mouse (in my opinion). Keyboard + mouse is fine, I do love the precision I get with the mouse, but not having analog control for the movement is also a huge tradeoff.
A dualsense scuf controller or the upcoming dualsense edge is the nearest equivalent to what's in the video (ultra high end) but it keeps the gyro and the touchpad that you're after :) The video title doesn't seem right to me when these sorta features are missing when basically everything apart from Xbox and Android support them
What is a gyro?
Search for gulikit kingkong 2 pro. Thank me later.
@@freefalling6960 gyroscope sensor in the controler that can detect movment and rotation.
Wtf are you using gyro for?
I've always had the issue with Xbox controller face buttons where the click doesn't work when you press it softly (The B button in particular)
and the bumpers usually double click(Had this issue mostly on the elite 2).
I honestly prefer the Nacon revolution unlimited in terms of how it feels
Bob try back paddles in adventure games like Breath of the Wild! I've been using it as the sprint button to free up my thumb for camera controls, item grabbing & jumps and it's amazing.
I love the whole "If you're going to hell for one sin, might as well just commit to all of em" energy of this video, although I will never buy such a thing because hotdamn, my poor wallet, I always love seeing the whole "walkthrough" of these... "niche?" things.
Any news on if the analogs are still the same units as the base controller? I don't want to buy an Elite until it can work for a whole decade like OG xbox/360 analogs.
Same as base. They don’t have different analogs. You will be lucky to get a year out of it tbh. But I think that’s how long the warranty is now
A year? Thats how fast they get drift? Why so much faster than a normal one?
There's widely accepted speculation that the ones packaged with xbox's themselves are of higher quality due to the "lifetime" warranty. I've only killed bumpers on recent gens. "Off the shelf" controllers don't even last me 6 months.
I bought a PowerA pro or whatever and have used it for over a year, killed a trigger hinge but fixed that with some super glue and a strip of metal - no complaints otherwise.
I don't even care about warranties; if my controller breaks within a year and then takes a month to be warranty swapped - for the same model with the same failure potential... well I might as well plan to have spare parts to do the job myself.
Oh and not sure if it's shared with the elite, but the latest gen bumper design is atrocious... guaranteed to fail within a few months. I've compared it to previous gens and the armature that actuates the buttons is flimsy and long; any hard use or excessive dust will either grind it to a halt or break the tip off altogether.
ya the new controller we got has a busted bumper after only a few months i hate it
Also really love the new studio and filming setup!
I love my Elite V2. Was worried, but no issues so far. Only had it about 7 months though, so we'll see.
I mean I've heard of a ton of drift issues with these so unless it has hall sensors now I doubt it's DEFINITELY the best
Its very very much not, it's great for the first month maybe two, but then issues start showing up. Check out the channel Cuda for indepth controller breakdowns.
unfortunately i don't think we'll ever get hall effect sticks on consoles
although for PC gamers there's already options in the market that make them way better than any MS offerings
I love the Xbox controller but it doesn't have gyro aim so u have a big disadvantage when going PC players online.
"Just use a KB&M"
KBM doesnt have analog inputs
Man, I've used my elite controller v1 a lot and I haven't encountered any peeling or issues with the quality that people talk about breaking down. It's one of my fav controllers.
Love a good Bob controller video! I got the Elite 2 when they first come out. Still love it!
have they added gyro yet?
I think not 🤨
No, still holding the industry behind. But I am so glad mainstream devs finally got their stuff together and started adding it on PS in games like Fortnite, COD etc.
The timing for this video is odd. I've just started hearing about the very high failure rate the Elite controllers have. Like, within the last couple of weeks, lol.
I’m really interested to see your thoughts on the Scuf controller. I bought one over a year ago when I couldn’t find an elite at all. The Scuf will randomly disconnect itself from my Xbox while I’m playing though, it’s very frustrating.
you make one of the most visually pleasing videos on the platform
also damn you for making me spend extra 200€ this Christmas for an elite series 2 lab controller..
The thing that kills me is that the paddles can't be mapped to non-controller inputs. For Xbox, this doesn't matter. But as a PC controller, all I want is to map those as four *additional* inputs. But they can only clone the existing standard inputs of a normal controller to a new position. Steam Deck really highlights how awesome this functionality is.
You can try rewasd. It has a free three day trial and is really simple to use. however I don't believe that's the controller's fault, many games just aren't developed for mixed inputs and if it's an fps game then you'll probably lose your aim assist (if you do play with it, I know it's optional and some people don't like it anyway). There's also ds4windows for free but imo it's an extremely unintuitive software, but the trouble only comes in when you start setting up gyro with mixed inputs or flickstick
Agreed. Really want to use the paddles for more Diablo inputs and it’s disheartening that I can’t.
You can do it on pc with the steam firmware. But with it installed you can't use the paddles on xbox and it'll nag you to update the firmware if you use it on there
I was a xbox controller user until I switched to Dualsense for PC this year, not just PS5. Few reasons:
- It has gyro. I know many folks don't think its a big deal but its a game changer for FPS games, especially if you are playing on TV. Way better than just joysticks. Xbox refuses to innovate there. And you can get pretty good with gyro after a few hours of practice. And the FPS game doesn't need to support gyro, so that's awesome (thanks to Steam Input). You can play old school or new FPS games on TV with gyro, it feels great!
- Joysticks are way better calibrated. You can do a test or find tests online showing the difference. My performance in Rocket League is actually better with Dualsense
- Input lag: Lookup xbox input lag vs dualsense input lag. Inexplicably, dual sense wireless lag is lower than wired, and beats xbox controller's wireless lag by a lot. like 5ms vs 18-20 ms. I think this is one of the reasons I play better on Rocket league too.
- chargeable. I can't fathom how microsoft sticks to AA batteries even today.
- That trackpad is actually usable via steam input. This is useful mostly in more complex games so doesn't apply to many gamers. But you can find ready made gaming profiles on Steam which makes it nice.
- of course, if you have a PS5 too, it has many other benefits. But you don't need a PS5 to benefit from a dualsense controller. Steam supports it out of the box, no other software needed!
I hope someone can make a good video showing all these because Sony has developed an amazing controller and it deserves all the recognition!
who the hell keeps batteries going like Microsoft, pretty sure most gamer kids don't know where battery bins are in the community anyways haha
Part of me wants ps5 to do offset thumbsticks or the option but it's nbd at all.
If not for the horrible QC issues, I would agree. I went through two of the OG xbox elite series 2 and in both, the R1 just doesn't work! My 8bitdo controllers with way more hours, and even my series 1 elite have never given up on me. both of my elite series 2 broke within 1 year of generally light use...
I've been owning a XBox Elite 2 controller for about 2 years now n been loving it ever since I started using it n after sum button customization, loved it even more, I may have payed a hefty price for it 2 years ago but no regrets
It can't be the best without gyro. Even Warzone now introduced gyro on PlayStation and PC, but not Xbox.
Gyro is the future and my aim is trash without it
I clicked the video just to see if it has gyro
Agreed
Best in terms of use. Not that many games with gyro compared to those that don't have/need it.
Gyro mid
Yes, but it has motion controls?
I remember hating the official software solution for changing control layouts. I only use my elite series 2 for PC gaming, so I had to use the PC application and change my layout between every game I was playing. Maybe it’s been updated, but I haven’t touched it for a while. I use ReWASD for my control mapping so I can assign control layouts for my paddle buttons there, and have the software automatically switch to the appropriate control layout when the corresponding executable is run.
Thought my XBOX One S controller malfunction completely and had to let go - found out I just had to internally clean it and replaced it with a new, overall shell (all parts) and it's all freaking good again.
Can't even remember how long it's been with me but it's still my durable, and working controller to date~ 😊
This controller has the worst reliability, I’ve had 2 broken out of the box 😂
I also had 2 broken out of the box. They've had horrible quality control with these.
third party controllers always have better QC than first party ones for some reason 😂😂
Sure
Agreed, nobody should buy these.
@@mobilePCreviews what do you recommend?
Watching this video made me realize my obsession for well designed controllers.
I almost want this one now 😅
i bought the gen2 elite 2 years ago on amazon for 120€ and i couldnt be happier with it, i also used it with my switch via a dongle
The only thing that STILL sucks about the Xbox controller is the lack of gyro. I can take/leave rechargeable batteries, touch pads, HD rumble, or whatever. But the lack of gyro aiming really makes it feel a gen behind.
Who uses gyro in a controller in reality? its nonsense and useless. its not a wiimote
@@monsterdav3004 If you've not used gyro aim for precision adjustments then you don't know what you're missing. The sticks get you in the neighborhood but the gyro will let you nudge it towards a headshot. Far from useless and clearly we're not talking about Wiimote waggling (though incidently the wiimote pointer is nearly as good as a mouse for aiming)
@@Tron08 You mean you use controller when playing shooter on pc? Why wouldnt you just use mouse and keyboard which is superior to any controller or gyro aiming? And I use controller on pc too but I use it for games where controller use is prefered such as fighting games action/adventure games etc. I could care less about gyro aiming (on pc that is) if I play shooters with keyboard and mouse anyway.
@@Marko-ij4vy Frankly because these days I sit at a computer all day and when I play games I'd often prefer to sit on a couch, and having tried to use a KB/M on a couch it is simply a bad experience. And on top of that not every system I'd like to play supports a keyboard and mouse. And twitch shooters aren't the only genre that requires aiming. (Think bow/arrow in Breath of the Wild). Lastly, just because you do not use a feature of a controller (because you supplement with an entirely different input device) does not mean it's useless.
@@Tron08 I game both on nintendo switch an pc. I use pro controller on switch which has gyro by default. Not saying gyro is useless because I use it when gaming on switch. For that I use switch pro controller. On pc I game with xbox controller if I dont use mouse and keeyboard. As I said i dont care for gyro when gaming on pc whereas other consoles like switch have it by default. Certainly not a dealbreaker if controller I use for pc doesnt have gyro.
No gyro is an instant dealbreaker
@@fionnmaccuill415 You can't play a lot of Nintendo games without gyro. Mainly for me, breath of the wild. Aiming without it is just awful. Also, it's not an expensive part, for the price it should be included Dual shock three has more tech than this thing like come on.
@@fionnmaccuill415 also valid. I suppose xbox has gotten by not having it for this long.
I'm using the Gulikit KingKong 2 Pro controller, or the rebranded Zen Pro wireless, same controller. It's basically an Xbox controller but it can do the older D input not just the X input, can do android and ios, and nintendo switch, since it was designed with the switch in mind. It has hall effect joysticks and hall effect analog triggers, programable macros, can sense amiibos etc. I love the controller. Some people have complained about quality control, but I've had no problems with it. Maybe not for everyone, but a definite contender.
When I was at pax west everything I played was using an Xbox controller, I think I only used a different controller once and that was for a switch only game. Thanks for the video!
I'd stay far away from Xbox's Elite controllers. They've had serious QC issues from the start. I had 2 arrive with defective thumbsticks, and one that only worked for like 5 or 6 months with light use. A real shame because in my opinion this is possibly the best controller on the market... when it works.
I've had my Elite since it came out and still use it without issue
No Gyro = Worthless.
I had both a elite, and elite series 2. It really saddened me that the original elite lasted me 2 and a half years and never broke, but then I upgraded to a series 2 and within 2 weeks the stick drift was so awful I just had to toss it because the warranty wouldn’t even work
Get a king Kong pro controller. Linus tech tips reviewed it, it’s pretty good. No stick drift cuz it uses Hall effect.
Ive been using xbox controllers since i first bought my OG xbox one at the beginning of 2015. Ive went through soo many controllers and im not even a hardcore gamer or got monster hand grips. I remember one time i brought one of their newer models with the back grips and it literally started getting stick drift 2 weeks into use. I cant deny its one of the most comfortable controllers i ever used but they really need to improve the build quality on those joysticks. I remember seeing an article that they literally get them for like a $1 in China and the life expectancy was somewhere like 2-3 months
Nahhh, not even close to best. It's mid tier at most. Maybe I'll change my tune if they add gyro in the future, but I'm not gonna spend anything close to that price for something that technologically inferior.
Technologically inferior to what?
Just got the new 8bitdo ultimate Bluetooth. Getting Hall effect sticks on a $70 controller, imo, disqualifies anything without them from being worth a premium price. Then there's the gyro controls and included charger.
In my country xbox desig lab charges $195 for the elite series 2(full model) with all extras, name, designs etc. Could be worth checking out other countries design lab pages to save money
I'm happy with my own Retro Fighters Defender, since it works for all PlayStation consoles up to PS3.
My elite series 2 master chief edition has a defective RB. So i forever have to use one of the back paddles for my RB.
Shit was $230 and it broke in the first 3 weeks
My only problem with the elite controller is there seems to be some QC issues. Some of the ones I've had are grips peeling off after a month of use, bumpers stop working and premature stick drift.
I had to return 4 bad out of box elite 2 controllers until I finally found one that didn’t have more then 3 problems from start but the final one I just decided to keep was fine for the most part except for the A button not registering sometimes
I'm still using the elite v1 that I modded a bit and it's probably the best one. I say probably because the dualsense is really really close and maybe better if you take vibration and adaptative trigger into account for games that uses it well.
I'm gonna buy a new elite if they finally put hall sensing joystick. I don't want drift on a controller that expensive.
I loved my elite 2 but it is over 4 years old. It has been stick drifting for longer than I care to mention. I am going with the core because I still have usable accessories.
I've had an Elite Series 2 for the last Year and a bit... It's easilly my favourite controller and my daily for use on my Xbox and PC... Still need to pair it to my phone for Game Pass...
i had the controller that came with halo 5 console last for 5 years with really looong and intense gaming, after that any xbox one controller was lucky to go for more than a year with 1/3 of time and half the pressure put on it
I owned 2 of these and the top L or R triggers brake and work like half the time
I picked up 2 for parts elite controllers on ebay a few months ago for like $80. Fixed them both, sold one for $100 and kept the other. Still haven't used it months later haha.
I like the contoured stick for Halo. I don't need to re-adjust my thumb as much when running. Love my Elite controller.
I love the paddles honestly, i almost entirely went away from the abxy face buttons, yeah muscle memory still kicks in from time to time but it's so sweet not having to take my finger off the camera stick(idk how you guys call it, the looking shifter? Lol)
The Elite Series II does work with the Nintendo Switch! All you have to do is get one of those cheap and widely available USB dongels from 8bitdo. And not only does the controller work, but it keeps all three profiles and customizations for each. I have mine set up so the first profile has the standard Xbox layout, and the second profile swaps the position of A/B ane X/Y for Switch gaming. And all four paddles works too!
Hi Bob, does this still potentiometer or hall effect sensing joystick? Have you tried one of those new things yet (like Gulikit is all over the internet) and if so did you like it
i just got my 1st Elite controller i went with the normal black one with all the stuff but i got it on sale after discount i paid 170 and i love it !!!
Bought mine a week ago, and like you, didn't realize the additional thumb sticks and D pad were also customizable. Went through the whole process again just to see where I messed up. When I first added the accessories, I didn't see the options to choose each part individually and customizing it. Now that I do it again, I see the option. When thinking back to when I made the purchase, and I had it in Cart for 2 days before deciding, I still can't remember seeing the option to do this. I went back a few times to redesign it, but still ended up using my first design, so I don't know how I didn't see that. Still, I also don't think I'll be using the additional thumb sticks, or the D pad for that matter, so I guess I'm stuck with my choices.
I've been happy with just the regular xbox controller. More specifically, I'd buy it on sale and then buy the mods I want from Extremerate. It's well worth it to save money plus the experience doing it all yourself, but I get that some people aren't into doing DIYs (i.e. voids warranty or some difficulty with installing mods). Personally I've never had problems with my controllers messing up, but I also don't game often.
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I was going to order a second controller for my laptop so I don’t have to disconnect the one that came with my Series S to connect to my laptop and iPad Mini to play games on there. However you mentioned in one of your other controller videos that the Switch Pro Controller connects to Windows laptops. I’m gonna try that first but if it doesn’t work I have a custom blue controller saved to my Design Lab account to order lol
Hey Wulff, what are your thoughts about the Amazon Lune Wireless Controller?
Had 2 of them. Been on a Razer V2 Chroma going on 2 years now no problems.
@Wulff Den, Any chance of you doing a video about an issue with using Xbox Series controllers (while gaming on Xbox Series Consoles) with previous-gen wireless headsets? For example, none of my Arctis 7,9X work without hiccups, skips, and static at times, but if people use the previous Xbox One controllers, there is no issue.
The elite has a sticky A button. I tried 3-4 different ones. Tried to find a different revision with no luck. Returned all
i love the elite series 2 control but... i had the dpad for fighting games... its way too flat.. and the replacement feels to "sunk" that the diagonals dont feel accurate. any idea if theres a dp replacement out there thats more similar to the normal xbox controller?
I had the original Elite for 5+ years before developing the grip issue, which are easily replaceable with 3rd party grips. But soon after that the dpad failed (intermittently). I may eventually try to open it up and fix it but honestly the new Series controllers are great for the price...the dpad is top tier.
The xbox elite controllers triggers still register analog input when you change the physical travel. It's incredible i set it halfway and it's so comfy for everything... Ps back paddles can be disabled for fidgeters ;)
Love my Elite 2, but I've had to use a lot of isopropyl alcohol to keep my left bumper and A button working. Something about the design of this (which is different to the standard controller) seems to collect crap and cause the buttons to stop working. Be prepared to take it apart if you get one.
Bought a Nintendo Pro controller back in 2019 and it still works great. Slight drift starting to form on the left stick, but other than that, still using it with Steam & Switch. That was after a play thru of Breath of the Wild (once), Skyrim (twice) and hundreds of hours playing Asphalt 9 Legends. My son has the Xbox controller & less than a year in and the drift is so bad on the right stick, he cannot use it, so he asks to use my Pro Controller. I have considered getting an 8BitDo Ultimate but waiting. Eventually, I am sure most companies will switch over to the Hall Effect type.
0:24 The Dualshock 4, DualSense and, Switch's Pro Controller also work seemingless across all the platforms listed here.
Hey Bob, are you going to do a review on the new Retroid Pocket 3+?
but the thing with that trigger switch is that its another part that moves thus will break down with usage. and replacing(repairing) might be more complicated.
I found an elite series 2 (the black one that comes with all the accessories) at Walmart with a sticker on the shelf that read $76.97. I double checked with an employee to make sure that wasn't an error, and it was legit. Got an elite series 2 for just about 80 bucks. The elite series 2 core was right next to it for full price
I saw a video a long time ago that recommended the elite 2 controller conditionally: they recommended getting it if you could get it with the warranty if you were a heavy duty gamer because the warranty was affordable and covered near everything for 3 years. I actually did that and when the first one experienced issues I got a new one with the warranty and I have been cycling them in and out of getting repaired ever since. Hefty price to pay upfront for sure, but there are two heavy duty gamers in my house including me, and only needing these two controllers, repairs taking only a week to turn around has actually turned out to save me money in the long run.
I paid for that warranty that they no longer offer other than through best buy and they just kept my controller and are acting like they never received it. Been without a controller for a month now. Terrible fucking experience lol.
A quick 8bitDo adapter and yes, it works with switch. I used to have one so I could use my ps5 controller for my switch. Eventually sold my hacked switch though when I got my steam deck.