Mind of a 9k. Mechanics of a 1k. Review of decision making

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  • BSJ decided to "smurf" by live coaching a 1.6k student in his ranked crusader bracket, heavily micro-managing his gameplay using the techniques and skill learnt from his 9k bracket ranked games to control the map and apply pressure. This was Part 2, with the post-game discussion and full game analysis. Part 1 with the live gameplay can be found here: • Do 9k tactics work at ...
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  • @bananaslamjamma
    @bananaslamjamma  3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    BSJ decided to "smurf" by live coaching a 1.6k student in his ranked crusader bracket, heavily micro-managing his gameplay using the techniques and skill learnt from his 9k bracket ranked games to control the map and apply pressure. This was Part 2, with the post-game discussion and full game analysis. Part 1 with the live gameplay can be found here: th-cam.com/video/YSfHUTzbwLM/w-d-xo.html

  • @thearchivist250
    @thearchivist250 3 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    "What is XP range?" Alt click your level number under your portrait, and it will show you XP range.

    • @RylWayne
      @RylWayne 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      waoh

  • @CodeMenace
    @CodeMenace 3 ปีที่แล้ว +117

    I felt this format of live coaching then in-depth analysis extremely insightful. It was great to see @BananaSlamJamma give an instruction and explain why or explain what the student did incorrectly.

  • @teeneshverma
    @teeneshverma 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    "this death.. kills you.."
    -BSJ 2021

    • @AaronConnor
      @AaronConnor 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ahh yes the floor here is made out of floor

  • @chriskurdelski6262
    @chriskurdelski6262 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    As a 700mmr player this has helped me so much with understanding map movement and how to create pressure and is letting me start to solo carry my games more

    • @aleckhineaquino467
      @aleckhineaquino467 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      More power, will wait on people improving in dotes. currently I'm on 6k, seriously see ya'll get tips from BSJ nice dude.

  • @MeLoveParisHilton
    @MeLoveParisHilton 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This two part series is extremely insightful. Watching BSJ dictating the movements live and realising why was so useful. And then you get a further in depth analysis which explains those concepts even better and more precisely. I watched lots of your videos, but I think these series explained the proper map movements and most importantly the 'why' by far the best!

  • @heinwinlwin1654
    @heinwinlwin1654 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I really enjoyed the student because rather than yes-manning to everything bsj says, he gives his reasonings, push back when he think hes right and asks good questions .

  • @appsenence9244
    @appsenence9244 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Finally back to these long videos. Back in the days pre 10k subs... Dauym

  • @nelsonaquino4301
    @nelsonaquino4301 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Been watching lots of pro gameplays, guides, tops etc. But the videos from your channel is what I find the most useful. I stopped playing Dota 5 years ago and just picking it up right now. I can say I have good fundamentals, okay mechanic but what I always lack is map awareness. This video helped me grasp that concept. Another thing I'm looking forward to getting good at is positioning. Thanks for the vids man!

  • @yyong3002
    @yyong3002 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really like this series. U get to "see" and visualize what kind of mistakes u can make and learn how to correct them. A lot of times when I try to learn high MMR stuff, I can't really relate because I don't actually know what will I do in certain situations. Seeing the student make mistakes actually helped me to know the mistakes I would make.

  • @tanisornpetchj.4273
    @tanisornpetchj.4273 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow, I love your video, Brian. I understand more about how to rotate, when to cut wave! Thank you. I’m 2.3k support right now. Keep up the good work!

  • @moonlightshow7
    @moonlightshow7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Fantastic series, as a 1.9k MMR player I got so much out of this! We want more!

  • @KIdefreestyle
    @KIdefreestyle 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have watched like not all but most of your videos and must say that this one is one of best educational videos, this one show how to go up from 1k to 6k with very simple play, you dont have to be a godlike just push waves make them go for you, make them think going for is an labyrint without finding way out. Good job BSJ. 👏

  • @aldianasyhari7655
    @aldianasyhari7655 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is probably the best video ive ever watched BSJ make. Thank you so much sir. REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
    I WON 3 games in a row following this video.

  • @ohpotatoesandmolasses
    @ohpotatoesandmolasses 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    "...other than me screaming at you" lmao

  • @dfinisher26
    @dfinisher26 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    7:31"you got me killed BSJ"
    BSJ: NO NO NO NO NO
    LMAO

  • @Goldrop
    @Goldrop 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When can we see another episode this has been super insightful for newer/low mmr players. Great content!

  • @lobhaspatil
    @lobhaspatil 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Quality content as always !! Was really wondering when you do another mid lane coaching session, really like this format as well, thanks for the series !!

  • @abcdefghij3603
    @abcdefghij3603 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some great learning for me here about the wider game. I often do a lot of these things either from the void or the razor's perspective without really looking into why.

  • @buildings_and_food
    @buildings_and_food 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    this and the previous video are the best educational dota content I have ever seen

  • @urielnascimento3567
    @urielnascimento3567 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey I'm back to dota after 7 years w/o playing. Dunno if you will see this, but the running thing just made me win a few games. thanks a lot man (:

  • @pranavkeshav20
    @pranavkeshav20 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey BSJ, could you tell such similar map movements which a pos 4 (and/or pos 5) should do? I get pretty clueless and just follow around my allies

  • @jakealexander6046
    @jakealexander6046 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like how they explain “hard counter” vs conditional counters. It’s hard how to explain the earthshaker is not a hard counter to PL. because once the game reaches mid to late game usually PL would have hood or you can time doppel to avoid the echo slam. Plus echo has a long 2 min cooldown so once you dodge the echo then you can punish the enemy. PL’s hard counter are heroes that can clear illusions via cleave or magic or silence heroes.

  • @juliusrendon5936
    @juliusrendon5936 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    bsj this is so helpful we need more mid videos like thissss

  • @nicksmith3431
    @nicksmith3431 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    making him watch again so savage dude. love it

  • @DeadlyShadow7
    @DeadlyShadow7 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    ahm, as my most played hero is also void spirit (althou im low on overall games) i wonder, what the reasons are, that you recommended Leshrac, bc i considered adding him to my mid-pool.
    btw: this is also the fact why i love the fact you made a awesome mid-lane/void spirit video

  • @dushennagesur9350
    @dushennagesur9350 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid. Thanks BSJ. Also thanks to my man Striderp for the edit.

  • @dunnyvan
    @dunnyvan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    this was great, this format is great.

  • @evangeloskosmadakis353
    @evangeloskosmadakis353 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Must be the best educational video out there

  • @shubhamsingh-hn3tr
    @shubhamsingh-hn3tr 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the ending clips where BSJ looks like a mafia

  • @scottynutter9690
    @scottynutter9690 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow I’m 5.2k but I never really thought about how much you’re countered changing between the lane and the mid game, that’s something to think about.

  • @geraldbriceno7425
    @geraldbriceno7425 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative! Thanks.

  • @Dmackpaddywhack
    @Dmackpaddywhack 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Now we need to submit this to speeds guess the rank and see what he says.

    • @a2zistoolong448
      @a2zistoolong448 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeahhhhhhh...only he doesn't know about this video.

  • @hex-2748
    @hex-2748 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This really give me ideas on how to play a tempo mid hero.

  • @audacibus
    @audacibus 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I played my first game where I stopped asking people to help and told people by character to smoke gank and take fights. I made a few bad calls but ultimately won the game

  • @etiennedutoit7182
    @etiennedutoit7182 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Run Away!!!! Damm i do the same thing, thanks @BSJ!!!

  • @abeysebastian3159
    @abeysebastian3159 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Void spirit player- This is so painful to watch.
    BSJ- Rewinds and shows in 0.25X speed 😂😂

  • @Jadix
    @Jadix 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should show the enemy perspective on some of their fuck ups. It would give good insight in to what they see and why they fuck up.

  • @rayanshaikh2265
    @rayanshaikh2265 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Main point you have to constantly watch mini map and see bounty rune were you can take fight rival heroes hp and killing them

  • @4trahasis
    @4trahasis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Normal coach: do 20 pushups.
    Student: No.
    Coach BSJ: play 50 games of Leshrac.
    Student: OK.

    • @fantzuyao8367
      @fantzuyao8367 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      50games that's insane hahaha

  • @sammyd5098
    @sammyd5098 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do we go about getting coached by bsj? Do you have a website or link?

  • @RamonNZ
    @RamonNZ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great format.

  • @guilhermetomishiyoteixeira4731
    @guilhermetomishiyoteixeira4731 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If I may give a suggestion: I think this guy should play weaver to learn the "correct way of running way" stuff. It's a super good hero to learn this.

    • @Dimens1oner
      @Dimens1oner 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      why? coz with that hero its super easy due his innate ability to go zoom zoom with invis? i would rather learn it the hard way, with a hero that the choice is really important, of which road to take.so less mobility. when u got that covered u can imagine very easily other type of movements with heroes that have more options.

    • @guilhermetomishiyoteixeira4731
      @guilhermetomishiyoteixeira4731 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dimens1oner I noticed that I started to take more aggressive paths playing this hero, since you don't get punished if only you don't get caught. This changes the emphasizes from running towards a safe zone to running towards any area the enemy can't attack or cast spells at that particular moment. But you do you, it was only a suggestion.

  • @FlibTheBard
    @FlibTheBard 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking forward to when BSJ can coach the student playing lesh, the pale horse

  • @gamestein757
    @gamestein757 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was amazingly educationel i hope we see more but maybe how to corectly move when your the strongest on the map

  • @seangaddis6515
    @seangaddis6515 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great one!

  • @JVargoMusic
    @JVargoMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    12:59 He didn't have enough mana, so I think he just went for only the stun

  • @dmoney12345
    @dmoney12345 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    10/10

  • @Playerx19
    @Playerx19 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What if your matchup is more or less even in lane?

    • @Anderkent
      @Anderkent 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Usually means both heroes just get their farm and aren't forced to leave, but also aren't free-farming the lane or taking the tower - so at some point an opportunity to go do something else than just push the wave and farm neuts will pop up. (e.g. a good rune might let you gank)
      or you might be a ta or something that is happy to just farm until you get two items

  • @krisg.5203
    @krisg.5203 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is the kind of the content that i need. hahaha

  • @chatGPT7
    @chatGPT7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing. Please enable fog throughout if possible, as long as it's not hampering the coaching session. Thanks!

  • @migoy13
    @migoy13 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this, very helpful for us 2k scrubs.

  • @PeCzech
    @PeCzech 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really liked it, but I feel you should give them some gratifications

  • @kg322
    @kg322 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    BSJ talks about himself in the third person.

  • @alexc1561
    @alexc1561 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So cool thx

  • @pineapplescuddleduck
    @pineapplescuddleduck 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is defensive aggro?

    • @kiploism
      @kiploism 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      pull the creeps towards u, by clicking on enemy on the map

  • @Shawn-pq5gp
    @Shawn-pq5gp 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    while watching this i felt the way he controls his hero isn't 1k. more like 3k or 4k / legend/ancient. then i looked at the game id, holy shit he's crusader 3 lmao. mechanically i feel he's alot higher, but i think it's more like his thinking or knowledge that keeps him at that bracket

  • @JayJamBAM
    @JayJamBAM 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's fun seeing BSj shit on low mmr players as a high mmr player, makes me feel chad or something idk

  • @willbroon8752
    @willbroon8752 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this Scott the miniature Maniac?!

    • @Miniac
      @Miniac 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yes!

    • @willbroon8752
      @willbroon8752 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Miniac Hope you're sticking to the advice, and having fun playing Dota 2!

  • @linguagemprofundacommattpr9485
    @linguagemprofundacommattpr9485 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    shabadoo

  • @95Geli
    @95Geli 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    commenting for the algorithm

  • @EulsScepter
    @EulsScepter 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    BSJ + Purge DotA Replay Podcasts plz

  • @Awesome-ct7vr
    @Awesome-ct7vr 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So in some way bossing the map like this is not literally but you kinda guiding your team to do the better moves without telling them to.
    More like fixing a game by controlling your oponents position.
    Which isnt again literally but solo carrying the match.
    Even more because of the fact that it was a 9k control vs 1k. Which is why smurfs easily climb mmr and dont face the "but my team sucks" problem.
    I mean yea they may suck. But it takes 1 good player to make them suck not as bad as you gonna make the enemy suck.
    Which ends up that the bad players wins the worse enemies.
    And the only reason its that^ is because of 1 player who knew how to twist it this way.
    Thats impressive.
    I think I might have gone too philosphic here xd.
    But im just amused with how he tells him how things are going to happen before they actually do, and it happens.
    Btw that agressive tp mid on 4 heroes was sick af. That awareness of skill cd.
    Like wth.

  • @ascension-gamesflute7237
    @ascension-gamesflute7237 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    can u do a video coaching jenkins that guy is trash pepega

    • @KidTrigger
      @KidTrigger 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What does pepega mean?

    • @mixedberrii3672
      @mixedberrii3672 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      why did jenkins say bsj sucks? what's wrong between these two?

  • @JAFrk
    @JAFrk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    7:19 viewer blames bsj for getting him killed when he's specifically told not to engage with razor...when he straight up TP's in vision.
    Doesn't realize if he TP'ed base he would be 2 levels below razor with no ult which would put him at the exact same disadvantage

    • @weaselsdawg
      @weaselsdawg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      he meant running base rather than doubling back for xp, but yeah still wrong

    • @tadpoleparker
      @tadpoleparker 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@weaselsdawg there's actually no way he meant that. He just TP'd there.

  • @stevenbibby5800
    @stevenbibby5800 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    make sure to like and comment to let Mr. Banana know we want more !

  • @xulomed
    @xulomed 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    MOAR!
    please?

  • @tarunraajiv7834
    @tarunraajiv7834 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can we have a similar video for a safelane unfavorable matchup like tb against any magical damage

    • @thepandaman4167
      @thepandaman4167 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Imagine playing pos 1 lol

    • @KidTrigger
      @KidTrigger 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol tb has illusions you can shove waves without worrying about being killed

    • @KidTrigger
      @KidTrigger 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thepandaman4167 ? What’s wrong with playing pos 1 that’s my second favorite role

    • @stonecoldxi9138
      @stonecoldxi9138 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KidTrigger probably hinting on how hard it is to get pos 1 in ranked roles

    • @KidTrigger
      @KidTrigger 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stonecoldxi9138 why is it hard? You can just play role queue and pick mid offlane or safelane and pick a carry hero

  • @srikika
    @srikika 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    for the algorithm!

  • @Winter-tl4xv
    @Winter-tl4xv 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    26:11
    Right here radiant throw by not going rosh. In legend bracket usually the carry would realize this, because well they need that Aegis, I am surprised PA with a desolator still wouldn't go Rosh seeing 3 enemies dead.

  • @monoarticuler578
    @monoarticuler578 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why he’s not buying aghs in this game?

    • @itstomis
      @itstomis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Need armor to not get oneshotted by PA

    • @monoarticuler578
      @monoarticuler578 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@itstomis so uh, if its not PA, u can go for aghs?

  • @edongski
    @edongski 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    bsj so rude replaying his death in slowmo, but to learn from it is so satisfying.

  • @DrequimaX
    @DrequimaX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This guy needs 2000 game losses to be brave.

    • @DrequimaX
      @DrequimaX 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      May be if I have found BSJ in 2016. haha.

  • @fatfighterxDDD
    @fatfighterxDDD 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    hahaha base instinct to run in your base when youre running from heros...?:D

  • @o.k.2254
    @o.k.2254 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    +

  • @alexanderdiegozavaletapacc6642
    @alexanderdiegozavaletapacc6642 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    ojmomn

  • @gauravsaini6515
    @gauravsaini6515 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    27:41 if he tp super aggressively disrupter glimpse back to base and tower gone sad life

    • @KidTrigger
      @KidTrigger 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dissimilate

    • @gauravsaini6515
      @gauravsaini6515 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KidTrigger Glimpse

    • @KidTrigger
      @KidTrigger 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@gauravsaini6515 disseminate so glimpse is useless

  • @hotdawgsgood
    @hotdawgsgood 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    today I played a ranked game where I was losing but slowly made a comeback like legit comeback and then earlier one of my teammates had wifi issues so they got an abandon and the match was safe to leave and my dota started acting up and I tried restarting by pausing and quitting dota but when I came back it booted me off the match lol and we were about to win as well 6122556950

  • @BqqBaqonBurqer
    @BqqBaqonBurqer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    literally first

  • @bennyreal31
    @bennyreal31 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    secpojdn

  • @oj7574
    @oj7574 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    there is no way that the razor is 1.6k player probably a smurf

    • @KidTrigger
      @KidTrigger 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He dove towers so many times lmao what mmr you think he is? He also didn’t static the lane and let it rubberband which made the lane easier for void spirit. He also sacrificed creeps to get a longer static link when creeps are under his tower which is wasting his static link

    • @oj7574
      @oj7574 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KidTrigger atleast 3k

    • @KidTrigger
      @KidTrigger 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oj7574 why do you think that I’m intrested? He played very bad imo the whole game

    • @jom_and_terry
      @jom_and_terry 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@KidTrigger aight but can you stfu?