New Microsoft Surface Laptop 4 Ryzen Edition Unboxing and Initial Impressions!
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- Today we're checking out the brand new Microsoft Surface Laptop 4! I'm very excited because I'm a sucker for AMD Ryzen processors and we've now got an ultrabook portable work computer that's able to compete with the brand new M1 apple computers.
So what comes in the box and is it any good?
Lets find out!
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The USB-C port on Surface Laptop 4 supports charging also, so you have everything in one: a break-away plug, USB-C, and the ability to charge from either the left or right side of the laptop. Kind of ideal! (Mac owner here)
Do you happen to know if it supports video out? I want to connect a dongle with DP 1.4 and ethernet connector. But I can't find anywhere if it actually supports it.
@@ethancalcinalizarme6535 yes it dose
@@ashtonlipscomb1295 thank uuu
@@ethancalcinalizarme6535 I second that: yes, both the Surface Connect port and the USB-C port on Surface Laptop 4 support DisplayPort.
Atleast the surface comes with proper dock (allbeit the surface-connector), one thing i do hate with apple is that even the expensive "docks" are just usb-c hubbs and they tend to work poorly.. a dedicated dock and one with magnetic contact is so nice. I do miss the mechanical docks that lenovo used, the new usb-c-side-connecting docks are rubbish and the cable-attached docks are even worse..
with 1 cable you can get 2 external monitors, ethernet, charing, usb-ports.. that cant be beat on a mac, it always need 2 (or more) cables and they will wear out - i have several customers with macbook pros with glitchy usb-c ports.
Also my MBP 15 with 4 ports need to switch around now and then because the ports just randomly stops working.. so much for quality.
I think the metal version of this laptop will be perfect for you man .
Maybe I’ll try it out in the future.
A shame since alcantara feels so nice. Minus the pain to clean if you are careless with your laptop
@@sentryion3106 I never owned an Alcantara product before, but it looks like dust and sweaty palms rubbing against it, for 7-8 hours per day, in summer, could take a toll on it.
@@TheAndreiul That is a lot of peoples concern, but people who have owned earlier versions of the Surface Laptop say it holds up despite concerns
Yeah this vid made it looks like there is no full metal version
Honestly you should have read about surface products before bashing them. That plastic thing is Alcantara Fabric. Get it without fabric and it will be all solid with no flex. BTW I am a Mac user.
Even with fabric, it's no excuse for a trillion dollar company such as Microsoft not to be able to design their notebooks with a standardized rigid form factor,
Ravi Peiris M.D.
I must say I appreciate your videos, but it's the second one when your complaining about the non-existent Thunderbolt ports , but you know from the start you're reviewing and AMD based laptop... I mean common'
I'm amazed at the number of reviewers who do not understand that the Surface 4 laptops have TWO ways of charging - using its proprietary magnetic breakaway charger AND the USB. Even professional tech reviewers do not always understand this although this information is available on the Microsoft website. The two method charging has been the case at least since the previous generation and rumors have it that Apple's Macbooks [Air and Pro] will also incorporate a proprietary charging system in addition to its current USB. The case can be taken apart.
The Surface Laptop 3 15” was the best PC laptop I’ve ever laid my hands on. Better than a 2019 XPS 15”. Solid feel and a great keyboard.
Don’t go for Dell XPS 13. It chips easily if bumped into the wall or fell onto the hard floor. Hands down to the Surface Laptop for being the best competitor against Apple’s MacBook laptop line
3:21 "this is me everytime hoping that i get another product below" 😂
Even I do that
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I think you should give the alcantara a try for a while since long term it feels very nice to the touch. My 2019 version does get heat issue on the bottom but since the material is an insulator I don’t feel any heat on the top deck; for this you win some you lose some I guess but it has an intel chip unlike the Ryzen which should be more efficient You can charge the laptop through usb c and you can upgrade the ssd though it’s using a smaller special type (it has a pretty cool magnetic system to hold onto it)
My friend’s surface pro keyboard with same fabric is now a very yellow colour.
gosh
Ikr
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Unless its one of the early alcantara keyboards (that had actually bad durability), the newer ones are much improved and can be cleaned off with a wet microfiber cloth and some gentle rubbing (even microsoft says doing this gently is completely ok). Makes it look brand new. You can also add just a liiiiiiitle of soap to help get the dirt off it. And if you are not dirty with it, it doesn't get dirty at all, it's actually insanely durable for what it is. I know a person who has the Surface Laptop 2 for years since its release that uses it everyday and it still looks clean
@ agree :) even I am using the surface laptop 3 and the alcantara is good good :D no issues! we just need to maintain it well and yes! if we do you will love alcantara.. :)
I came from an Alcantara Surface Laptop 3 (that died) and decided to upgrade to the 4 in matte black all metal Ryzen 16/256. ZERO chassis flex, and honestly so much better for typing.
Not sure if you caught it, but Microsoft has additional skews on the business side. You can get a metal matte black Ryzen 7 for the 13.5.
The keyboard deck ages well. I have the original Surface laptop and everything works well even today. Surface is a great line
Facts
Alcantara feels very nice IMO. And there's a full metal version available.
The type c can also charge and the Alcantara material is meant to add to your typing experience. A pillow for your arms
Yall, don't sleep on the Alcantara... it's really confidante to type on. It was on my work laptop and I was a little sus on it, but I really really liked it. I just purchased another one and wanted it on my upgrade. You honestly don't notice the flex. It's so comfortable.
One comment. You can upgrade the SSD in the Surface Laptop, though I think its a proprietary SSD (apparently taking examples from Apple in more ways than one). The feet come off and reveal screws to take the keyboard off to get at the SSD.
According to Microsoft the leave Thunderbolt out due to security concerns, much the same concerns that apple use to say they need to solder their RAM and SSDs.
I've been looking for a laptop for the past few months, and even though I _really_ don't like Windows 10 (I use linux as a main), the surface 4 looks quite enticing, not gonna lie.
I believe that you can actually charge it over USB-C
And you can upgrade the SSD - The screws are under the rubber feet
The fabric is Alcantara - Also used in Cars
I don't mind the Alcantara fabric as much as I do the deck flex. And those bezels, yeesh! I'll stick with my XPS, thank you very much.
Yeah I don’t like either the fabric or the flex 🤣
Weird flex but ok
Its a very good laptop. I dont really care about the bezels being thick, or the glossy screen. I dont use my laptop outside a lot so that shouldnt be a problem. And I like glass displays because they look nicer to me
It's Alcantara. And you can take out the access the internals by exposing the screws underneath the rubber on the bottom. Etc. All of these can be learned on the product page, or a light Google search. At least do a little bit of reading on the product before making what I hoped to be an informative video review. (And I'm a Macbook user, so I have no particular incentive to defend Microsoft).
I'm personally going for the 15: intel black metal version. Never dug the Alcantara fabric myself. With the metal option, there's no flex.
Should I buy surface laptop 4 or go with rog zephyrus g14. I know rog is better but surface is kinda tempting. I like the build quality BTW. That alcantara sucks
Just curious... What do you do with all those laptops you buy? 😅
i think you can open it and swap some things inside, the screws are under the pads, and the keyboard lifts with magnets (waas on the SL3, and probably on this one too)
Would have liked to seen MS use the current generation of a Ryzen CPU. But it's nice to see them offering something other than Intel.
Had the original Surface Laptop as my daily since it was released, definitely think it's time to upgrade and with the AMD options available now too it's even more tempting 😊
Proprietary... MS have the same charging port since they released the surface line. :) before usb c if I'm not mistaken. So I'll happily keep their designs over the inconsistency apple provides. I have my surface pro 3 which still works perfectly up to this day and I can use the same charger on the new laptop. So...
Great video, but you should have done just a little more research before making it:
- This laptop is made with repairability in mind. Maybe one of the only "premium" laptop-makers that care about it, and they even talk about it at their events. There are completely normal philips screws under each foot, and then that top keyboard cover comes off really easily (it's attached magnetically to the body!! No "plastic clips" holding it that break and get messed up). You can even upgrade the SSD, and all other components are fully modular so that you can replace a single part of the laptop without replacing the whole motherboard.
- You can charge it just fine via the USB-C port.
- The "Surface Connect", that proprietary charging port, is actually a magsafe-like connector to use with the Surface Dock, which is one of the best things ever. Imagine a full "one single cable setup" and that the cable is magnetic. How cool is it to dock/undock the cable instantly? :D Also it works both ways (like usb-c) and I love how flush it stays with the laptop (you almost don't see it connected)..
- There's a metal version of this laptop in other colors, for the same price
- The metal versions don´t have any flex whatsoever, the flex in this version is because the "alcantara" top is not as solid as aluminum
- Some people actually love the alcantara top, and the newer versions almost never wear out over time and are easy to clean and keep clean, makes the laptop feel much more confortable to use for long periods specially when you use short sleeve tshirts. (skin directly in contact with laptop, on aluminum ones it gets sweaty and unconfortable and feels cold)
- The front lip you complained about will wear out a little and get rounded off by itself. Still, the wedge shape that this laptop has and the "slightly rounded" bottom makes this one of the most confortable laptops to use for hours. And also, once again, the metal version is different and doesn't have this kind of design on the bottom lip, it has a more "common" design. And finally, I had the Surface Laptop 3 in the past and now I have the Macbook Pro M1 and I can tell you the MBP is miles worse in terms on bottom lip confort. It literally feels like it "cuts" into my wrists if I use it with short sleeved tshirts...
Final note: having the alcantara keyboard cover is awesome because you can literally slam shut the laptop everytime without worrying about it, and it makes the most satisfying sound ever (a thick and solid "thump" because it's closing against a cloth-like keyboard cover, instead of aluminum ones from other laptops)
Thank you for your comprehensive feedback. Most reviews focuses on one-sided negatives of the SL4
You had the Ryzen option on the Surface Laptop 3, but only on the 15” version. The USB C port isn’t thunderbolt. The Alcantara looks like garbage when it starts to wear.
Ok thanks for the heads up, I didn’t look at the surface laptop 3. And yeah with the AMD chips no thunderbolt compatibility.
Alcantara is one of the finest luxury materials in existence. Used in lowly cars such as Mercedes Benz, Porsche, BMW, Lexus, Lamborghini. I have had it on several Surface products and it wears terrifically, has no odor at all (or it wouldn't be in those cars), and is almost stain-proof. If the Dell XPS products I am using lately had it instead of the carbon fiber I'd be fine with that. It's in such high demand for luxury cars that the maker is having to drastically increase production to keep up with demand.
There are very few AMD laptops out there support Thunderbolt. No thunderbolt port is what I would've expected.
Get the metal version of 15 inch with ryzen 7 for review
I got the 15in Ryzen 7 Surface laptop and I sent it back. I have a Ryzen 5 4000 series and I can use it for everything. Work, gaming and low to medium settings on most games. After getting the Surface laptop, the gaming was terrible. Grant it, it is not suppose to be a gaming laptop but I would have thought it would have done better than my Ryzen 5.
Hey, you can upgrade the SSD here. Just remove the four bottom rubber feet and there you could see the screws holding the front of the laptop. Remove it, and you can upgrade only the SSD.
I love The Everyday Dad. His videos are I
entertaining and in depth.
Well thanks so much!
Looking to buy this computer for my daughter. Will be mainly for school therefore Office applications e.g Word, Power Point etc...however she wants to get into photo and video editing e.g. Vegas Pro or equivalent. Which of the new Surface Laptop 4 versions would you recommend? Do I absolutely need to go to an i7? Thanks so much!!
I’d love a comparison between this and the g14. If I’d switch back to windows these are the ones I’d pick
Pleaseeeeee do check/test the screen randomly cracking issue that happened with a lot of SL3s.
As a former Windows touchscreen laptop user (just moved to the M1 MacBook Air 16/512 with the help your reviews from my trusty iPad Pro with magic keyboard2 setup), I really don't understand the excitement about touchscreen laptops. They get greasy and grubby incredibly quickly and watching the screen bounce back-and-forth when touched is incredibly annoying - especially if you're using pen input. iPads are built for touch and the screens are easier to clean (and the Pro's brightness means it tends not to really show finger marks anywhere near as much); the whole laptop form factor hobbles touch right out of the box, rendering it more affectation than effective user experience.
Luv it when everyday daddy reviews window laptops
I used the surface laptop 2 for a while and really liked the build never noticed the flex), that alcantera fabric is nice, but it does discolor a little over time, you can clean it though.
I’ve tried the previous version in store , I liked the keyboard, the finish and the Alcántara fabric was fine but I hated the flex on it 😂.
Also happy to see an upload 😀
Hope it was worth watching!
Nice review, saw a little glitch in the editing when you were talking about the port selection! I believe you can get these with metal instead of that soft material, not sure if you can get the Ryzen version though.
You can get metal options and Ryzen.
Yeah sometimes editing glitches happen or I’ll say something wrong and cut it out in editing.
watching this on my surface laptop 4 lol, loving it for what I use it for it has amazing shortcuts on keyboard(excel)
it's as if you had not done any research about the device beforehand, like you didn't know about the charger? the alcentara finish?
Did you not wonder what “Alcantara®” meant in the laptop’s description? Did you think it was a shade of Ice Blue? It’s not, it’s a synthetic fabric. Sit in a Lamborghini - they drown their interiors with it - and it’s gaudy. But my Shelby has it on the steering wheel and is divine. But if you don’t keep it clean, your body oils will make it slick like vinyl or leather. It’s a neat idea to put on a laptop - but I dunno if it’s practical.
compare the battery life between M1 mac air and surface laptop 4
Do you ever sell you products after using it for a while?
Can you compare the Surface Laptop 4 vs Surface Pro 8? I am debating which one I should get. 😃
Thanks for this, always interesting to see a counterpoint to Apple. Speaking of which, I'm totally onboard with a comparison between M1 MacBook Pro and this laptop, specially doing video editing.
I don’t understand I feel this new Surface Laptop as a “meh” update, i’m an Apple fan, so I really liked the designs of the last Surface products but I can’t find a key feature in this model to make me feel excited.
why are you complaining about not being able to upgrade it on your own while u can't even do that with the macbooks ?
Exactly... Double standard much? Didn't learn much about this device except for the constant comparisions
I would do some thermal testing, then see if the thermal paste can be reapplied and then retest it with new thermal paste just to compare the quality of the manufacturer's thermal paste.
really liked the video--it was very honest. the fabric Alcantra is not up to many people's taste yes, so they included an aluminium version as well you can try that. as for the flex, i don't know why but may be because there are two speakers underneath the keyboard?? just saying, i am not an engineer. i am myself a surface fan, but don't have one yet. so, for your future videos, i wish you make one on surface pro-7 plus (not the older surface pro 7) the i7 version and compare it with both the ipad pro and mb air. and tell us what you think. i dont like apple much, but i like your videos because you do criticise them when its due, and i like that honesty.
Brilliant video Gary!
Thanks!
I would like to see how is it using the Surface Pen with Laptop 4
I think this laptop has removable storage and also you can choose to charge it via the usb-c port (or the provided proprietary charger)
I guess premium device doesn't fit an everyday dad... just like any other American, they have access to so much quality stuff but the majority just don't appreciate it or they are ignorant.
Yes you can take the feet off and replace the SSD, keyboard, trackpad and display are repairable. So repairability it way better on this laptop.
Is this the 8 gb model ?.... how much ram you have available? Does AMD reserve 2gb for video ?
Thanks for the video! Nice T-Shirt :)
I think it looks great and for someone that really likes watches, it means i wouldn’t have to worry about scratching my watch or computer deck.
Really interested to see if this is the best Windows laptop. We love our Macs because Apple make the software and the hardware. Interested to learn if that transforms this into a viable option against the Mac.
Waiting for your Review between M1 and this Ryzen 🙌
The deck flex is there because you can remove the front and you can replace the SSD.
i have a surface laptop 2 which has the same design and body as that new one, and i just got a M1 macbook air. honestly, the only thing the Macbook beats my surface laptop 2 on is raw performance. mind you, mine is 2 generations old. the keyboard, speakers, display size are better on the surface. also i find myself really missing the touch screen!
We need to know about the speakers... and battery of course.
Awesome Video Man. You told us things that no one talks about. On a hands on!
i honestly feel like i might like that felt because when my palms gets sweaty on the metal(very often) it gets super gross and slippery
I've owned surface products forever and the alcantara top is something that turns out to be a great addition! It does not get damaged at all. But I'm switching to mac still because windows has just gotten boring in a way😓
Its not like mac os is fun.
@@evaristocorripio5434 I understand but apple is single handedly changing the computing industry. And optimizing their os to do so. Microsoft has just gotten uninteresting/boring. Yk
@@jh3247 I return my iMac to go back to windows 😊 I mean I couldn’t take a test on my iPad Pro not too pro not able to take a test so ima get the surface laptop because I know anything can be run their test applications etc but if I need to do some ux design I hope I don’t have issues but I doubt it tho coz ima get the one with Rysen 7
take the rubber nubs off and it's 4 screws to open the back of the surface =)
The Ryzen vs Intel Surface Laptop 4 heavily reminds me of Intel vs M1 MacBook Air (2020)
Don't press the body for so much flex!!! Buy the metal version if you want 🤦♂️😂 I personally like the fabric finish one!! It's so soft.
I think you can change it though usb c also, try it
Question, how do you get all of these laptops? Do you use a credit card?
The money I make on TH-cam goes into buying the things to show everyone.
@@TheEverydayDad Makes sense. Thanks for the reply, have a nice day
Nice.... I really like the look of the Surface laptops. I'm not sure it could replace my MacBook Air M1 but curious to see the follow ups.
Does The Everyday Dad have a review on the Logitech MC Anywhere 3?
Can you make a review of Adobe premiere Pro on this surface laptop 4
Please 🥺
This isn't a review. This is you telling your mom what you like and what not.
he loves apple, but hates proprietary lol.
If a laptop has proprietary (charging) ports they'd better be magnetic, right?
Not necessarily
Technically it is upgradable if you pry out the things on the bottoms to keep it from sliding around there are crews under them and it opens in a ver strange way, you pry the keyboard out and instead of looking at the internals with it close up side down you look at them where the keyboard would be. The ram and WiFi card are sauntered but the ssd is not. It isn’t your standard m.2 2280 like in the cos 15 and 17 or the razer blades. It is m.2 2230 eeitch are pretty hard to come by. Samsung doesn’t make any of 2230 drive. Western digital has the sn530 which is what’s in it by default and sell has a few and there are a couple from smaller companies.
And one thing I forgot to comment in your last video is I said that sk Hynix is name brand and the drive preinstalled in the g14 but if forgot to say that the one you showed is sata, that’s what would go in some desktop PCs.
You're NOT a fan of proprietary ports you are an Apple fanboy?? LMFAO!
i can sense his bias 👀
Why didn't you get the metal finish
Why no ones unboxing the 15 inch version??
this type can run autocad 2020 and solidworks ?
Would get alcantara, but it really sucks when that once it gets stained, theres no way to clean it
Why am I getting just one ad which is 20 seconds long and no option to skip it???
Do you return the products after you review them?
No, he doesn't
Not unless they are broken in some way, I returned the Dell XPS 17 from last year because it had a bad trackpad. I generally keep all this stuff to do comparisons with.
But tbh, for me, bezel can tell you a lot about the overall performance because of design language. And this surface laptop 4 looks so ...
Make this vs base M1 Mac air lol that would be interesting to watch
Such a nice looking laptop. Biggest bummer is no USB 4 or TB4.
is it better than the xps 13/15?
Better than M1?
Try playing video games on it like call of duty or some.🙏🏽
COMPARISON WITH M1 MACBOOK AIR
it's the 4th gen of those laptops and reviewers still describe the same designs that's there for years. I dont get why they don't do the stuff that's new. like how the ryzen runs in that machines against the Intel. everything else was covered in the last year's already...
I think u have the option to order it without the felt as well
Yeah but it wasn’t available when I ordered this one unfortunately