I agree with all of this. What Ive noticed is most people lack self awareness even when its pointed out. For example a person on social media might make a post of a meme that says " people can't be trusted" or " kick toxic friends to the curb" or " I gave you my all but didn't care" never once considering they've at one time been that someone that was considered toxic, or didn't care about someone who cared about them, etc. Its not that they don't look inward, its just that they're looking at themselves in a filtered manner. In an odd way sometimes sociopathic individuals actually can easier admit their flaws than the general public so long as narcissism isn't high in their personality flaws. The reason I believe this occurs is because they don't have feelings either way in some issues. An emotional indifference. They'll readily tell you how they were late because they were getting high. How they murdered someone for making them mad. Etc. The need to make excuses for our shortcomings comes from worrying what others think and the need to be harder on others equally negative traits is a desire to elevate ourselves above others. If they get a promotion at work they got lucky or they're sleeping with the boss. If we get a promotion it was our hard work, intelligence, and perseverance that did. In short, we're all a bunch of hypocritical, contradictory let downs 😂
Speak for yourself. Some people are on time 99.99% of the time and toxic energy vampires are ejected like a pez. I don’t care if anybody likes me. I have a small circle of friends who are responsible and hold themselves accountable. They have been disciplined so long that it’s an engrained habit. Sucks to be you.
Excellent as always. It also can be described as judgmental. We all judge and are the victims of others judging us. How the world would be so different if this was not the case. Probably human defense mechanisms I suppose, but so often completely off base. It was frustrating to watch because it is so true, and unfortunately, "fundamental". Thanks again, Doc.
I'm going to start today to consciously reverse the attribution; sounds like a great mental challenge that will reap tremendous rewards not only for myself but it will create a positive ripple effect in the world if we all try this. Love it!
I’ve seen both men and women do this with infidelity. They will cheat on their partners multiple times and have plenty of excuses why it is okay. If they find out the same partner is cheating on them, they become so shocked and hurt!
If the other one is few (many) times getting late it is telling me for sure this: i don't value your time/ you are on a lower status than me/you are not a priority. So if i perceive this as a bad behavior and take according actions, this is not cognitive bias anymore, it is a normal boundary and more important self worth.
Always on point, J. Love listening and agreeing with you. My father called this "the golden/black legend". Not only with people but in general. Always teaching me to see the two sides of the coin. He is also a Jedi, a 93 yo one. I'm 50y younger.
As women of Afro-Cuban decent who is highly ambitious and by the mere fact that I'm not married or have children. And that I'm so invested in my education, I study every day after class 3-4hrs. I review with the professor and my test scores reflect my dedication. Unfortunately, I've been on the receiving end of a lot of bias. Honestly, I wonder sometimes if it's not just plain old envy that people have towards me. However, I'm quick to put people in their place when they make of handed comments etc. I'm not a perfect being, but I'm respectful, kind and try to empathize with other human beings. I very much give people the benefit of doubt in the beginning. Haha! I'm come to learn and accept the fact that not every human being is going to like me. And I'm okay with that since I'm living my dream for myself
@stevegoldstein6017 America has the largest GDP but America also has lots of people living in it who have made very poor choices and are not happy with their life.
This is brilliant and so true! I can see how I've been doing that. Thank you for the clarity and the confirmation that this process of reversing the 2 is already happening within me 🙏☺️❤️🔥
Hello, just letting you know I had to hit the thumbs up button over 10x for it to finally work. Also I did subscribe but that also took about twenty tries until it finally worked. Just saying if it was this much for me how many people tried to thumbs up and sub until they didn’t try anymore.
How would I know that I am appropriately valued in a relationship keeping in mind this fundamental attribution error? I am aware from your video that the minimum level of respect would be that given to a stranger on a bus
That’s because we live in a idiocracy. I was raised in a different time and different environment. I retired from my business because I saw a marked reduction in work ethic, a malaise, and lack of respect. Moving abroad to get off of this sinking ship
what about the opposite, where we attribute to character rather than reason. like star endorsments or propaganca.. like 'pfollow the Thienthe' as long as someone who we have seen as a 'Science communicator' by the media. We throw ourselves under the bus and attribute the ability to be discerning as an attribute of charisma.
Dr. Tereban, have you ever witnessed the phenomenon of this bias REVERSED in an individual with low self esteem? If so, does such an expression have a name?
The showing up on time/late example only works as a one-time incident. If a person is habitually on time or late, it is part of their character. Choose your examples more carefully so that they do not rely upon a very narrow set of circumstances to be true.
What about people that do the opposite? If I do something wrong, it’s because I am stupid and worthless. And if I do something right, I was just lucky. This video doesn’t ring true to me at all, but I do see how other people may think this way.
If you take this idea and expand it just a little bit, it can really improve your mindset. Example: I'm walking home (I live in Asia), and an Uber Eats food delivery motorcycle takes a short cut onto the sidewalk and almost hits me. This makes me angry. I make a judgement call about the driver, food delivery industry in general (maybe he has a deadline and will be fined if he's late, right? ), etc. Slow down buddy. Now I'm home, I order my dinner from Uber Eats. The time says 35 minutes, great, I can return some emails, take a shower. It's now been 38 minutes and my food isn't here, and I'm starving. This makes me angry. I make a judgement call about the driver, etc. He should be faster. Both situations are the exact same situation, but I'm on different sides of the equation. My perspective causes me to have contradictory conclusions. This should make us stop everything and really consider our reality. We as human beings are constantly stuck with this contradiction, because we are emotional, not logical, and we're selfish, not thinking about the big picture. And in the core of all human suffering is, that each and every one of us holds this contradiction within our inner being and walk around thinking we're the hero of the story - when we're just a pathetic walking paradox. I woke up and I have been kind to people ever since I realized this. I'm now humble. Not because I want to be regarded well by my neighbors. But, because I can honestly say I'm a pathetic walking paradox and I have no right to make judgment calls on anyone or anything, and I should shut the fuck up 90% of the time.
I think this error creates "double standards" as a result of the mental process you explained. Also in many cases it leaves the realm of the subconsciousness into the consciousness and is used on purpose. In your explanation it sounds like the phenomenon were remaining in the subconscious sphere. How is your perspective on that? Official language operates with it: a secret service member is either an "agent“ or a "spy“, depending on which side he represents. In the realm of politics this phenomenon is rampant. There are "activists“ who do all kinds of things, that coming from a different group or side on other causes would be labeled very negatively. Still the former can flatter themselves with this positive and noble sounding term and bask in its glory. "Activists“ label themselves, and get named and enjoy the benefit of the label and support from the media and other representatives, who favour their side. Do you think that activists were unaware of their "fundamental attribution error“? Some are truly naive, especially if they are young. This goes for a few journalists and politicians as well. Still, many who like to engage in or take sides with what they deem to be "the right cause“, tend to justify and subordinate anything, and are not that naive. This level of hypocrisy and lack of honest self-reflection can lead to atrocities.
Of course, some people will use these attributions intentionally to further their goals; however, this tactic only really works because the vast majority of people remain unconscious. That is, they are aware of the fundamental attribution: that our side = good, and their side = bad. What they are not aware of is that this is an error and a bias. They think they are seeing reality clearly. On the group level, unfortunately, they are probably just being manipulated.
@@psychacks Imagine if other groups did the same stuff for other causes. Glueing yourself on picture frames for men’s rights or safe streets. Demanding to remove a feminist's stone on campus as it "offends“ you. Haha. All hell would break loose... "Some animals are more equal than others.“ I’m more inclined to assume a larger number than just "some“ people to be conscious, and do it intentionally anyway. Excluding children like our soup-throwing and themselves-glueing teenagers (artefacts and roads). They are hysterical, agitated, and truly believe it. Given the benefit of their minor years easily impressionable and too young to think for themselves. But adults. I struggle with seeing how intelligent adults could really not get it, thus I assume greater grasp in more than just "some". A significant percentage of such people in all the various realms where they are active has above-average degree of intelligence and education. Hence they are endowed with cognitive and other abilities to understand matters. The current education system may play a role, given what's going on on campuses and schools in your country. And the media and general Zeitgeist. Alas, all of that aside, still I think intelligent people should be able to think beyond. And we can’t blame the education system and other players for everything, as then every single person passing it would be unable to grasp it; and, as we know, there are people going through the same system who get it. It’s truly disturbing. It’s a mass psychosis.
@@KatharinaKaschka "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." Educated does not necessarily equal intelligent. As for the legitimately intelligent folks who don't seem to think for themselves, I fear the explanation is rather banal, in most cases: they don't have time to research and critically examine the issues. So they default to proxies of trustworthiness and credibility.
@@psychacks Journalists’ job is "research and critical examination" and reporting. Politicians occupy with issues at an in-depth level and need to be properly informed. Still numerous of both groups choose to only operate from their narrow-minded perspective. Activists use plenty of time for their engagements or trolling. Other "legitimately intelligent“ citizens who "don’t have the time“ for research and critical examination seem to have abundant time for research on the latest "it bags“ and to engage in mindless shopping or binge-watching historically incorrect social engineering period movies, or other shallow pursuits. Outsourcing understanding is not a good idea. Plus, even if you confront those folks with facts, data, evidence, backgrounds and wider perspectives, they refuse to accept it, dismiss it and find plenty of excuses and justifications, as it questions their narrow-minded views and the position they have made themselves comfortable in. Besides: understanding doesn’t necessarily need much research. Once you have invested in understanding pivotal matters at some point in your life, and other things fly to you as you continue to walk through life, you have a good foundation, can draw on that and are well equipped to understand new matters that come up. You don’t need to research for hours or days to grasp new events and phenomenons, you just get it instanteneously or at least relatively early. Additional research of course can help for more in-depth details and aspects. Also instinct and common sense are blatantly undervalued and underrepresented in our contemporary civilisation amongst many intelligent people. There are multiple other factors at play with those intelligent people that involve complex psychological causes that shape their convictions and actions.
I don't agree with this. Give others the benefit of doubt and youll be conned & walked over by everyone. Dont do that. Be hard on yourself, don't give excuses to yourself and also be hard on others too.
I agree with all of this. What Ive noticed is most people lack self awareness even when its pointed out. For example a person on social media might make a post of a meme that says " people can't be trusted" or " kick toxic friends to the curb" or " I gave you my all but didn't care" never once considering they've at one time been that someone that was considered toxic, or didn't care about someone who cared about them, etc. Its not that they don't look inward, its just that they're looking at themselves in a filtered manner. In an odd way sometimes sociopathic individuals actually can easier admit their flaws than the general public so long as narcissism isn't high in their personality flaws. The reason I believe this occurs is because they don't have feelings either way in some issues. An emotional indifference. They'll readily tell you how they were late because they were getting high. How they murdered someone for making them mad. Etc. The need to make excuses for our shortcomings comes from worrying what others think and the need to be harder on others equally negative traits is a desire to elevate ourselves above others. If they get a promotion at work they got lucky or they're sleeping with the boss. If we get a promotion it was our hard work, intelligence, and perseverance that did. In short, we're all a bunch of hypocritical, contradictory let downs 😂
😂😂.. We are twisted and very conflicted beyond help
Speak for yourself. Some people are on time 99.99% of the time and toxic energy vampires are ejected like a pez. I don’t care if anybody likes me. I have a small circle of friends who are responsible and hold themselves accountable. They have been disciplined so long that it’s an engrained habit. Sucks to be you.
@@phoenixrisin2269 you're truly not bright. I was speaking about society as whole. Try reading a book some time.
Excellent as always. It also can be described as judgmental. We all judge and are the victims of others judging us. How the world would be so different if this was not the case. Probably human defense mechanisms I suppose, but so often completely off base. It was frustrating to watch because it is so true, and unfortunately, "fundamental". Thanks again, Doc.
Thanks!
I'm going to start today to consciously reverse the attribution; sounds like a great mental challenge that will reap tremendous rewards not only for myself but it will create a positive ripple effect in the world if we all try this. Love it!
i'm just seeing this today, a year later; how did it work out for you?
I’ve seen both men and women do this with infidelity. They will cheat on their partners multiple times and have plenty of excuses why it is okay. If they find out the same partner is cheating on them, they become so shocked and hurt!
If the other one is few (many) times getting late it is telling me for sure this: i don't value your time/ you are on a lower status than me/you are not a priority. So if i perceive this as a bad behavior and take according actions, this is not cognitive bias anymore, it is a normal boundary and more important self worth.
Always on point, J. Love listening and agreeing with you. My father called this "the golden/black legend". Not only with people but in general. Always teaching me to see the two sides of the coin. He is also a Jedi, a 93 yo one. I'm 50y younger.
As women of Afro-Cuban decent who is highly ambitious and by the mere fact that I'm not married or have children. And that I'm so invested in my education, I study every day after class 3-4hrs. I review with the professor and my test scores reflect my dedication. Unfortunately, I've been on the receiving end of a lot of bias. Honestly, I wonder sometimes if it's not just plain old envy that people have towards me. However, I'm quick to put people in their place when they make of handed comments etc. I'm not a perfect being, but I'm respectful, kind and try to empathize with other human beings. I very much give people the benefit of doubt in the beginning. Haha! I'm come to learn and accept the fact that not every human being is going to like me. And I'm okay with that since I'm living my dream for myself
@stevegoldstein6017 America has the largest GDP but America also has lots of people living in it who have made very poor choices and are not happy with their life.
This is brilliant and so true! I can see how I've been doing that. Thank you for the clarity and the confirmation that this process of reversing the 2 is already happening within me 🙏☺️❤️🔥
Everyone should watch this one
It’s like the proverb in German: “Wein trinken, Wasser predigen„ like you drink wine, but you are preaching to everyone to drink water.
Thank you. Great video. Great reflection.
Excellent. Thank you
This bias makes me confident and valuable which is why all humans have developed it. No news to dodge this bias
I'm still working on my boat
I'd call this "ego bias"
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You judge them by their actions and not their intentions whilst you judge yourself by your intentions and not your actions.
Well put
Hello, just letting you know I had to hit the thumbs up button over 10x for it to finally work. Also I did subscribe but that also took about twenty tries until it finally worked. Just saying if it was this much for me how many people tried to thumbs up and sub until they didn’t try anymore.
Great
How would I know that I am appropriately valued in a relationship keeping in mind this fundamental attribution error? I am aware from your video that the minimum level of respect would be that given to a stranger on a bus
That’s because we live in a idiocracy. I was raised in a different time and different environment. I retired from my business because I saw a marked reduction in work ethic, a malaise, and lack of respect. Moving abroad to get off of this sinking ship
what about the opposite, where we attribute to character rather than reason. like star endorsments or propaganca.. like 'pfollow the Thienthe' as long as someone who we have seen as a 'Science communicator' by the media. We throw ourselves under the bus and attribute the ability to be discerning as an attribute of charisma.
Dr. Tereban, have you ever witnessed the phenomenon of this bias REVERSED in an individual with low self esteem? If so, does such an expression have a name?
I know you didn't ask me... Imposter syndrome maybe?
Is the goal always to be more well liked? I'm not so sure.
The showing up on time/late example only works as a one-time incident. If a person is habitually on time or late, it is part of their character. Choose your examples more carefully so that they do not rely upon a very narrow set of circumstances to be true.
Isn’t this flipped around when a person is depressed e.g., my failures are because I have a flawed character , my successes are because i got lucky!
What about people that do the opposite? If I do something wrong, it’s because I am stupid and worthless. And if I do something right, I was just lucky. This video doesn’t ring true to me at all, but I do see how other people may think this way.
If you take this idea and expand it just a little bit, it can really improve your mindset.
Example: I'm walking home (I live in Asia), and an Uber Eats food delivery motorcycle takes a short cut onto the sidewalk and almost hits me. This makes me angry. I make a judgement call about the driver, food delivery industry in general (maybe he has a deadline and will be fined if he's late, right? ), etc. Slow down buddy.
Now I'm home, I order my dinner from Uber Eats. The time says 35 minutes, great, I can return some emails, take a shower. It's now been 38 minutes and my food isn't here, and I'm starving. This makes me angry. I make a judgement call about the driver, etc. He should be faster.
Both situations are the exact same situation, but I'm on different sides of the equation. My perspective causes me to have contradictory conclusions. This should make us stop everything and really consider our reality.
We as human beings are constantly stuck with this contradiction, because we are emotional, not logical, and we're selfish, not thinking about the big picture. And in the core of all human suffering is, that each and every one of us holds this contradiction within our inner being and walk around thinking we're the hero of the story - when we're just a pathetic walking paradox.
I woke up and I have been kind to people ever since I realized this. I'm now humble. Not because I want to be regarded well by my neighbors. But, because I can honestly say I'm a pathetic walking paradox and I have no right to make judgment calls on anyone or anything, and I should shut the fuck up 90% of the time.
Is this why most people think they are smarter than average or is that another bias?
I think this error creates "double standards" as a result of the mental process you explained. Also in many cases it leaves the realm of the subconsciousness into the consciousness and is used on purpose. In your explanation it sounds like the phenomenon were remaining in the subconscious sphere. How is your perspective on that?
Official language operates with it: a secret service member is either an "agent“ or a "spy“, depending on which side he represents. In the realm of politics this phenomenon is rampant. There are "activists“ who do all kinds of things, that coming from a different group or side on other causes would be labeled very negatively. Still the former can flatter themselves with this positive and noble sounding term and bask in its glory. "Activists“ label themselves, and get named and enjoy the benefit of the label and support from the media and other representatives, who favour their side. Do you think that activists were unaware of their "fundamental attribution error“? Some are truly naive, especially if they are young. This goes for a few journalists and politicians as well. Still, many who like to engage in or take sides with what they deem to be "the right cause“, tend to justify and subordinate anything, and are not that naive. This level of hypocrisy and lack of honest self-reflection can lead to atrocities.
Of course, some people will use these attributions intentionally to further their goals; however, this tactic only really works because the vast majority of people remain unconscious. That is, they are aware of the fundamental attribution: that our side = good, and their side = bad. What they are not aware of is that this is an error and a bias. They think they are seeing reality clearly. On the group level, unfortunately, they are probably just being manipulated.
@@psychacks Imagine if other groups did the same stuff for other causes. Glueing yourself on picture frames for men’s rights or safe streets. Demanding to remove a feminist's stone on campus as it "offends“ you. Haha. All hell would break loose... "Some animals are more equal than others.“
I’m more inclined to assume a larger number than just "some“ people to be conscious, and do it intentionally anyway. Excluding children like our soup-throwing and themselves-glueing teenagers (artefacts and roads). They are hysterical, agitated, and truly believe it. Given the benefit of their minor years easily impressionable and too young to think for themselves. But adults. I struggle with seeing how intelligent adults could really not get it, thus I assume greater grasp in more than just "some". A significant percentage of such people in all the various realms where they are active has above-average degree of intelligence and education. Hence they are endowed with cognitive and other abilities to understand matters. The current education system may play a role, given what's going on on campuses and schools in your country. And the media and general Zeitgeist. Alas, all of that aside, still I think intelligent people should be able to think beyond. And we can’t blame the education system and other players for everything, as then every single person passing it would be unable to grasp it; and, as we know, there are people going through the same system who get it. It’s truly disturbing. It’s a mass psychosis.
@@KatharinaKaschka "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." Educated does not necessarily equal intelligent. As for the legitimately intelligent folks who don't seem to think for themselves, I fear the explanation is rather banal, in most cases: they don't have time to research and critically examine the issues. So they default to proxies of trustworthiness and credibility.
@@psychacks Journalists’ job is "research and critical examination" and reporting. Politicians occupy with issues at an in-depth level and need to be properly informed. Still numerous of both groups choose to only operate from their narrow-minded perspective. Activists use plenty of time for their engagements or trolling. Other "legitimately intelligent“ citizens who "don’t have the time“ for research and critical examination seem to have abundant time for research on the latest "it bags“ and to engage in mindless shopping or binge-watching historically incorrect social engineering period movies, or other shallow pursuits. Outsourcing understanding is not a good idea. Plus, even if you confront those folks with facts, data, evidence, backgrounds and wider perspectives, they refuse to accept it, dismiss it and find plenty of excuses and justifications, as it questions their narrow-minded views and the position they have made themselves comfortable in.
Besides: understanding doesn’t necessarily need much research. Once you have invested in understanding pivotal matters at some point in your life, and other things fly to you as you continue to walk through life, you have a good foundation, can draw on that and are well equipped to understand new matters that come up. You don’t need to research for hours or days to grasp new events and phenomenons, you just get it instanteneously or at least relatively early. Additional research of course can help for more in-depth details and aspects. Also instinct and common sense are blatantly undervalued and underrepresented in our contemporary civilisation amongst many intelligent people.
There are multiple other factors at play with those intelligent people that involve complex psychological causes that shape their convictions and actions.
@@KatharinaKaschka Hard to argue with that
if there is one thing I could tell everyone in the world it would be this.
Pop culture SATC Miranda vs. Steve in Film 1 vs. 3. The script doesn't follow your dissecting approach though. Lol
I don't agree with this.
Give others the benefit of doubt and youll be conned & walked over by everyone.
Dont do that.
Be hard on yourself, don't give excuses to yourself and also be hard on others too.
You seem to be obsessed on "being liked", you have a few videos on this topic, and brought it up today. Being liked is way overrated.
A double standard?
To ask for a 👍 for a 217 second advertorial seems a bit much.
Then you should definitely NOT watch "The gift of your absence." It's even shorter
@@psychacks 😂❤ love your sense of humor!