Cut time (and how it’s different from common time)

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  • @tomer-8052
    @tomer-8052 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent. Perfect. Fully professional presentation of the issue.

  • @monicamiranda3161
    @monicamiranda3161 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Questions are good for tension.
    They will eventually bring about answers.
    Here is where questions are the source of knowledge.
    And if one want to know, ask . It will eventually be given .
    This is our universe.

  • @simonwilson1686
    @simonwilson1686 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Random find - Thank you !!!! - I'm a beginner violinist playing a Reel (think English dance - similar to Irish rigg fiddle music) - Written in cut-time - It is the pulse that makes it cut-time rather than 4/4 - So played at 80 bpm with the minims (½ notes) being the beat, whereas if counting in crochets (¼ notes) it would be at 180 bpm which is crazy faster on the metronome - exactly as you explained :)

  • @amandadangerfieldpiano
    @amandadangerfieldpiano 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for all the information!

  • @petertyrrell3391
    @petertyrrell3391 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    C with a bar in it only rarely means 2/2 or alla breve. This is a late 19th C/20th C use. It was used in the 18th C/early 19th C usually to mean a faster 4/4 movement than you would otherwise expect. Alla breve refers to a particularly sort of texture and rhythmic values.

    • @jamesostrenga9625
      @jamesostrenga9625 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      2/2 is faster though. If my tempo for a metronome is 100bpm at 4/4 per measure. When it is alla breve(cut time) that 100bpm is not affected. It's still 100bpm. Instead of 4 beats per measure it is now 2 beats per measure. Eight notes are now 16th notes. That 100bpm is now given the feel of 200bpm with 2 beats per measure. Difference between now and before 18th century is the use of metronomes. So yes, theyused it to show it is a faster pulse just as we do now.

    • @petertyrrell3391
      @petertyrrell3391 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jamesostrenga9625 I am also saying that the Alla Breve sign was also used increase the tempo of a 4/4 piece from what it would have been otherwise, but not necessarily making it a 2 time. E.g. The "moonlight sonata".

  • @alicekuijf7483
    @alicekuijf7483 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best explanation I’ve read/watched to date. Thank you very much!

  • @phorton968
    @phorton968 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great explanation. Useful, mentally digestible, information. Working on "New York State of Mind" alle breve. This helps alot.

  • @Ishimaru_Kaito
    @Ishimaru_Kaito 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent! I didn't piece together the whole value of notes thing until you just mentioned it. So essentially with cut time we'll have a duple like strong - weak beat flow making it sound more like 2/4 in terms of rhythm go, and also the tempo is faster than that of traditional 2/4 so that we have the benefit of making it easier to play by removing bar lines.

  • @kadeshclouden
    @kadeshclouden 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice, I enjoyed this video. We in the Caribbean use cut time in Calypso music, its usually a hassle to read because there's a lot heave syncopation.

  • @TheSunshinedreamer1
    @TheSunshinedreamer1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Allysia, you are excellent in this video!
    I think you are the only cut time video that teaches musical pulse - thank you By the way, have you studies there is a slight difference between cut time also 2/2 and Alla breve, especially in Baroque music. Could you possibly in the future do a video on this?

  • @EricJohnson-iv7ne
    @EricJohnson-iv7ne 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the very clear description

  • @trevormcmanis
    @trevormcmanis 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    New subscriber. Great video

  • @nicogarcia7302
    @nicogarcia7302 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you very much Allysia for your great videos! As a music student I find them really helpful. Cheers!

  • @lesterjoseph8099
    @lesterjoseph8099 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Did I enjoy your video? Yes... Am I still confused about cut time? Absolutely!😂

  • @lynnvargo7269
    @lynnvargo7269 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best explanation yet! Thanks!

  • @TranceCore3
    @TranceCore3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    there's a lot of modern music that does utilize cut time. because a lot of producers produce in half time when it comes to hip hop/ edm trap. Some will actually produce in their target bpm, but I've seen many produce at bpm twice as fast for sequencing reasons.

  • @garystafford1853
    @garystafford1853 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great explanation. Thanks

  • @MarsLos10
    @MarsLos10 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    That was helpful, thank you!

  • @sdka9922
    @sdka9922 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The circle does not represent a 3/4 time,it gives the ratio of 3 semi-breve to a breve and ratio of major (perfect) or minor (imperfect) prolation. The cut sign was used as most sign to indicate a relative change of meter, namely to reduce by half the value of notes, though overtime it has taken different meaning and eventually came to mean fixed measure. Also in baroque music particularly the early and intermediate one, in dances and vocal music, the meter and the accentuation are different; often time the accentuation is over 2 bars and follows the rythmic pattern of the phrases typically based on greek poetry (anapest, choriamb, trochee, ....) and these patterns can also change during the course of a piece while the meter does not.

  • @zankfrappe5145
    @zankfrappe5145 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you!

  • @asloii_1749
    @asloii_1749 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So is there any difference between 2/2 and 2/4 played at half tempo?

  • @sundowner62james69
    @sundowner62james69 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well explained .Thank you .

  • @davewonnacott1010
    @davewonnacott1010 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video- A good contemporary example occurs in many pop punk songs (like “cameage” by Descendents) where the verse is slow and the chorus is twice as fast....Mozart also did this all the time. Also, the new Olivia Rodrigo song “Good 4 you”.

  • @sighzmyk
    @sighzmyk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It would have been cool if you could have played examples of Cut Time vs. Common Time on the piano.

  • @robpallot5058
    @robpallot5058 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I think your video would have been assisted by including some recordings in the two different feels; as talking about music only goes so far. Thanks

  • @Nia-zk7ek
    @Nia-zk7ek 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Allysia, since you always sit in front of a digital and an acoustic piano - can you cover the difference in a video? Why do you usually play the digital for us? Is they key action different enough that learners need to get an acoustic eventually to be good? Would you struggle to play acoustic if you have only learned on a digital?

  • @ezekieljohnevardo1190
    @ezekieljohnevardo1190 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hi, love your videos. I have quick question. Is the song "Run Up" by Major Lazer featuring PARTYNEXTDOOR and Nicki Minaj qualifies for a 2/2 time signature? Sorry if it sounds farfetched. thank you!

  • @JustyStoky
    @JustyStoky 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks!! I've seen your videos on composers I would love to see videos on Correli and Telemann. I feel they get overshadowed by Bach and Handel. 👍

  • @maxha9636
    @maxha9636 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    THIS WAS RLY HELPFUL THX

  • @SICRoosterKido
    @SICRoosterKido 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you! Would really like to hear more about uncommon time signatures though... :P

  • @lia838delau3
    @lia838delau3 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super Video Thanks

  • @joeparaddle
    @joeparaddle 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You Really Explained The Metronome Comparison Settings Between Cut And Common Time Perfectly. So Then Jazz Drumming Charts Are Frequently Written Incorrectly? They Print Eight And Quarter Notes Under The Common Time Signature, But Shouldn't It Actually Be Written As Cut Time?

  • @wrtoomes600
    @wrtoomes600 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello, do you have a class on time (all) time only?

  • @Mackinstyle
    @Mackinstyle 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What I think I've learned is that the time signature gives you some facts about the layout of the sheet music. But it also implicitly informs you about the rhythmic "feel" of the music. That is, with careful notation you can probably write any piece in any time signature. But if someone tries to play it without a reference performance, they'll probably struggle to get the correct rhythmic feel.
    Kind of like key signatures. You can write everything in C with a ton of accidentals. But then you get a lot of clutter and you aren't informing the reader about the intention. Ie. where is the root? Where are we going? Where are we coming back to?

  • @gloryboundkev
    @gloryboundkev 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ask a drummer if it's easier to play in cut time on a fast song.

  • @timwallace6486
    @timwallace6486 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have to agree with your husband. Common time and cut time sound the same. I understand your point on pulsing but the majority of listeners can't hear a difference. I know I can't. As far as I can tell it is simply a convention used in WRITTEN music to make fast passages easier for a musician to read.

  • @claytonbenignus4688
    @claytonbenignus4688 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you cover 5/8 time? Alexander Borodin used that a lot.

  • @andredelacerdasantos4439
    @andredelacerdasantos4439 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know the Pathetique sonata's first movement is in cut time and so is the first movement of the 5th symphony, I think. BTW, is that example you used in the video from the first bar of the allegro section of the pathetique? I think the rhythm is identical.

    • @sdka9922
      @sdka9922 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      The sonate pathétique 1st movt is both in cut and common time. The opening grave is in common time, then it goes cut time.

    • @denn4s
      @denn4s 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      you peoplez are smartz

  • @crysiscontained4421
    @crysiscontained4421 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’m just going to put this here...time is all relative, it’s actually the style of music that dictates the “pulse”. You can write anything in any signature and it will sound the same until you put it in a different style.

  • @eljestLiv
    @eljestLiv 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    are there any differences between 2/4 and 2/2 other than how it's written? i can't think of any reason to ever use 2/4 is 2/2 is the same as it

    • @WitchLuna7
      @WitchLuna7 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      From my limited experience, 2/4 is easier to read depending of the music, even if the page looks busier (more sixteenths etc). For instance I can't imagine the second movements of Beethoven's 7th and Tchaikovsky's 4th (both notated in 2/4) in Cut time, even though the music would sound the same. Feeling the beats as quarter notes is more natural sometimes, especially for slower music. But bear in mind that in classical time signatures were also associated with certain styles, and sometimes they look very arbitrary and random, like 3/8 or 12/16 (I can't think of situations when they're easier to read than 3/4 and 12/8, and you will most likely never see them today) being associated with some dances, so the time signature would also be an indication of mood the same you would write Con brio or Maestoso in the tempo indication.

  • @derdian3
    @derdian3 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    my search is the difference between 2 4 and cut time

  • @AugustBonds
    @AugustBonds 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you took the same piece and played it in two different time signatures it couldn't possibly sound any different, could it?
    Isn't it just that you tend to use a certain time signature for a certain kind of music. For example, it is more comfortable probably to read a waltz in 3/4 rather than 4/4 or some other random time signature simply because the "phrases" or whatever they are called are actually three quarter notes long.

    • @luigivercotti6410
      @luigivercotti6410 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      but it would sound different because the accents would be all overr the place

  • @johnwendellcalzita2389
    @johnwendellcalzita2389 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    ok i get it

  • @thepianoplayer416
    @thepianoplayer416 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    When it comes to easier to count, the conductor of an orchestra likes to wave his stick (baton) in a slower 2-beat pattern than a faster 4 which can get very tiring.
    It's interesting how the Church (mainly referring to the Roman Catholic Church) used to consider 3/4 time as perfect because of the Holy Trinity. Today the population is more diverse and not too many people think religion & music have anything in common except there are hymns being sung in church services. And then there are dance music like the Minuet & Waltz that use 3/4 time. Dancing is a form of entertainment that has nothing to do with religion. It's just people coming together and having fun.

    • @sdka9922
      @sdka9922 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The 3/4 of ancient music is just a modern transcription per our notational standards. It is based on a number of adjustments and assumptions like the reduction of notes values. Most polyphonic music till 16th century is unmeasured anyway (only keyboard/luth notation was barred and not regularly). What we call a 3/4 rythm does not exist in ancient church music as the accentuation is based on the flow of the verses and not necessarily on a regular measure beat. Same applies to madrigals and instrumental music. Even in baroque music of the 17th century the accentuation in danse mouvements is based on a 2+2 measure pattern with occasional rythmic changes. The baroque minuet has one beat/measure and often the measures 2 and 3 on the pattern of 4 have an hemiola which shifts the rythm to a duple time. So it has no commonality with the waltz of XIXth century. Reading the modern transcriptions of ancien music can be misleading and for interpretation, it requires the facsimile and a solid knowledge of musical practice of whatever is the period.

  • @tigibucaro1368
    @tigibucaro1368 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the best example of cut time is dubstep - not joking lol

  • @homeontherange1284
    @homeontherange1284 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Perhaps you can end the debate about 2/2 being the same as 4/4 by saying that the time signature is not a fraction. It's a description of what means what in the notation. It is just unfortunately written like a fraction.

    • @AugustBonds
      @AugustBonds 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well it is a fraction o_O haha 2/2 is "you can fit two(2) half(1/2) notes in a bar". 2 * 1/2 = 2/2.

    • @astropgn
      @astropgn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This answer doesn't work, because even though you assume it isn't a fraction, if you have a song in 2/2 time signature and chose to fill it with quarter notes (which you can) and lower the tempo in half (which you can), you will be able to fit any 4/4 song on it. They are indeed equivalent. To the point that this video was only able to say there is a difference but it didn't succeed showing what the difference is.

  • @JimC
    @JimC ปีที่แล้ว

    5:17 "egocentic"
    Being informed of the correct derivation of the symbol is okay. Interjecting the loaded word "egocentric" is not.

  • @adityab1924
    @adityab1924 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I play guitar, BUT THIS IS TOO EYE OPENING.

  • @nmcg2587
    @nmcg2587 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well . . .
    As much as I liked the video - I'm still a little challenged to understand the concepts.
    I'm not a grey-area kind of guy though, so that probably accounts for my confusion.

  • @jmoreno600
    @jmoreno600 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm sorry, but this is at best partially correct.

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    @WolfRhymesEntertainment 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

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  • @SinanAkkoyun
    @SinanAkkoyun 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You're such a beautifule woman! You have to care about post processing and composition in your videos
    For example try lowering the contrast and change the black value, so you look more like in real life I assume :)

    • @PebProductions46
      @PebProductions46 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Are you implying that if she does these things that she'll finally reach 148 subscribers like you???

    • @SinanAkkoyun
      @SinanAkkoyun 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PebProductions46 Wtf xD

    • @oysteinsoreide4323
      @oysteinsoreide4323 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I guess she use the clip directly from the camcorder or whatever she use and doesn't alter it at all. And the quality is more than good enough for this type of video. The most important is the sound which is fine.

    • @SinanAkkoyun
      @SinanAkkoyun 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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    • @hamzahaytham3940
      @hamzahaytham3940 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sinan Akkoyun no, I don’t agree...
      There is a lot of room for improvement in the video quality, no matter the kind of the video.
      The face is so bright, she can use a reflector instead of direct light...
      The sound is fine but she can buy or add some foam (used in studios for audio recording)

  • @cb777-t1l
    @cb777-t1l 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm guessing that your husband is not a musician, because the musical feel as you play is totally different.

  • @gianpaolotodde1361
    @gianpaolotodde1361 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very confusing, you contradict yourself a few times...

  • @fxsmdlp
    @fxsmdlp 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Similar for 3/4 and 6/8 just being mathematically the same ...

  • @0icekold7
    @0icekold7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why don’t you just play it instead of run your mouth?

  • @denn4s
    @denn4s 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    had to hit the dislike for no apparent reason sorry

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    @tristananleu4677 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You’re my second favourite piano channel behind Paul Barton, 3rd place being Tiffany Poon. You are simply informative and quirky with your delivery. I like real faces though, should wear less make up and have more you.

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      @samsimpson01 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tristan Anleu Or she could dress and look how she wants..?

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      @SaraMGreads 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Why would she give a crap whether you like makeup or not?

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      @lewisgibbs6861 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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    @joseluisblanco8074 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Most Westerners don´t speak English.

  • @newmercieseveryday
    @newmercieseveryday 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you!