Songs that use 2/2 time

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    2/2 time, also known as "alla breve", and also as "cut time", can be confusing. But it's not the sound of it that makes it confusing, it's the purpose!
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    0:00 Examples of 2/2 time
    1:06 2/2 vs. 4/4
    2:45 Country & Folk music
    3:14 Classical music
    3:45 Pianote
    4:44 Alla breve
    6:42 Cut time
    7:19 What's the point of all this?
    8:17 Patreon

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  • @DavidBennettPiano
    @DavidBennettPiano  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

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  • @brandoncheever1897
    @brandoncheever1897 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +245

    There’s also an advantage when using conductors. Its significantly easier to do a slow cut time feel rather than fast 4/4. It’s also clearer to the ensemble

    • @sarahedwards2
      @sarahedwards2 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      In my strings class in 7th grade we played “Drunken Sailor” in 2/2 at 104 half notes per minute, and at the end it slowed down to half the tempo, conducted in good old 4/4 at 104 quarter notes per minute.

  • @vitormelomedeiros
    @vitormelomedeiros 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +312

    Something that even a lot of Brazilian musicians seem to get wrong is that most Samba is actually also in 2/2, with the second beat being emphasized. Interesting to learn how country can be kind of similar to samba in this way!

    • @MyRackley
      @MyRackley 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Yes, a lot of Bossa Nova tunes are notated wrongly in 4/4. The more I get into the genre, the more I despise the tyranny of 4/4. And iReal Pro puts most tracks into 4/4, my looper defaults to 4/4 and my DAW loves 4/4 above all. 😖

    • @Rodrigoooous
      @Rodrigoooous 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      I was taught that samba is in 2/4

    • @silliaek
      @silliaek 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You're a great teacher, knowing to answer the ultimate Why?

    • @vitormelomedeiros
      @vitormelomedeiros 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@Rodrigoooous well, to be honest, I don't really know the actual difference between 2/2 and 2/4. What I know is that Samba is counted in groups of two.

    • @LuizHenriqueLeiteMusic
      @LuizHenriqueLeiteMusic 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@vitormelomedeiros fellow br here, I had the same doubt over here. but the explanation of using larger value notes was a bit satisfying for that question, although David didn't adressed it

  • @WoolwichHouseStudio
    @WoolwichHouseStudio 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Like other comments, would appreciate a video on the difference between 2/2 and 2/4. Not so much the theory, but the feel and articulation.

  • @andrewpappas9311
    @andrewpappas9311 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

    I always interpreted Maxwell's Silver Hammer and Jolene as a half time 4/4 and Country Roads as double time so learning they’re actually 2/2 is cool to know. Always enjoy these kinds of videos for that reason, you always learn a lot more than you already do

    • @zzzaphod8507
      @zzzaphod8507 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Unless the songwriter labeled it as 2/2, not sure I would say they are "actually 2/2". There's often more than one reasonable way of notating it.

    • @stephenbeck7222
      @stephenbeck7222 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@zzzaphod8507and good chance no one making real musical decisions on the original compositions even wrote down a time signature (maybe someone writing auxiliary parts for the studio but good chance Dolly or her main rhythm players would have done it all by ear).

    • @zzzaphod8507
      @zzzaphod8507 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@stephenbeck7222 Agree. In pop/rock/country etc. the people involved with writing the songs don't generally bother notating sheet music, and I take less stock in decisions made later on by a transcriber or arranger, in terms of which time signature to choose.

    • @GizzyDillespee
      @GizzyDillespee 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The official story I heard was "...Dixie, double 4 time"

    • @andrewpappas9311
      @andrewpappas9311 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@GizzyDillespee I approve of that reference, great song

  • @Yipper64
    @Yipper64 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    ok ive always wondered what that "dup dup" sound was, now I know its 2/2 time.

  • @aaronhawkins1999
    @aaronhawkins1999 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Glad you went over this topic. Would appreciate a follow-up video where you address notating the same piece in 2/4 (where note values would be halved) vs 2/2. I know some of the differences in choosing the time signature likely come from style and convention, so it would be good to hear about that as well. Thanks!

    • @ericwarr9088
      @ericwarr9088 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Note value isn't halved in 2/4. The bar/measure length is halved...

  • @axlhyvonen461
    @axlhyvonen461 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    That was an awesome and eyes opening episode, especially that comparison of that great song by John Denver in 2/2 time signature vs. that of 4/4, Many Thanks😊😊😊

    • @renderizer01
      @renderizer01 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      That's really down to the backing that is more driving in the 4/4 version than its 2/2 counterpart. The phrasing and articulation of the vocal line is still very much the same in both renditions.

    • @theeniwetoksymphonyorchest7580
      @theeniwetoksymphonyorchest7580 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In 4/4 it sounded like Hawkwind😊

  • @brandoncheever1897
    @brandoncheever1897 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +272

    Could you do a video on waltzes?

    • @buxeessingh2571
      @buxeessingh2571 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      The best part for him is that John Lennon loved waltzes.

    • @filippofilippo9
      @filippofilippo9 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      3/4

    • @DavidBennettPiano
      @DavidBennettPiano  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +99

      Good idea 😊

    • @DenKulesteSomFins
      @DenKulesteSomFins 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      ​@@DavidBennettPiano Eliott Smith neeeds to be there!

    • @frafrafrafrafra
      @frafrafrafrafra 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@DenKulesteSomFinstotally, he did write so many songs in 3/4

  • @insertchannelnamehere632
    @insertchannelnamehere632 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +134

    I'm quite surprised that you didn't mention any marches, specifically the ones by John Phillip Sousa, those are always in cut time and are a perfect example of cut time vs 4/4

    • @torstenlandsson9757
      @torstenlandsson9757 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I was thinking that too except for the Sousa part, his marches sound too circusy

    • @insertchannelnamehere632
      @insertchannelnamehere632 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@torstenlandsson9757 I don't like them either lol, I just think they were important to be mentioned

    • @MyRackley
      @MyRackley 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@torstenlandsson9757 As in Monty Python?

    • @SomniRespiratoryFlux
      @SomniRespiratoryFlux 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I was thinking of this as well! Some marches use a triplet feel notated in 6/8, but duple time marches use cut time so often that I've even heard it called "march time" before.
      As for Sousa, I'm indifferent on the "circusy" sound, my beef with him is that I'm a horn player, and thus am contractually bound to be annoyed at the thought of him.

    • @torstenlandsson9757
      @torstenlandsson9757 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MyRackley well maybe I'm a bit biased because of Monty Python but if you compare how his marches sounds compared to German, Russian, Finnish and Swedish marches, which I think sound more grander and noble, Sousa kinda falls a bit flat imo. With that being said though I still think marches such as the liberty bell and stars and stripes forever are fun to play

  • @adrianhepton9362
    @adrianhepton9362 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Very clearly explained . 2 2 is perhaps the time signature that corresponds most closely to the rhythmn of walking which might be one of the roots of rhythmn

  • @OurgasmComrade
    @OurgasmComrade 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Edit: I made an error in misinterpreting 2/2 as 2/4, so the below message is valid for a different argument and not this video. Been a long week, I need a drink lol:
    Jolene doesn't feel like 2/4 (different than 2/2), I hear it as fast 4/4 because of the way the phrases sound. The opening acoustic fingerpicking riff especially happens over 2 bars of 4/4, setting the feel of that throughout. Not to mention the phrases in the verse and chorus are 8 bars long (repeated, making the structure of 16 bars, etc). The overwhelming majority of musicians I know hear it in 4/4, and most likely average listener. Trust your ears, don't always trust the trabscriptions on the internet, haha.

    • @johnmc3862
      @johnmc3862 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      2/2 and 4/4 are the same, it just depends how you write the music.

    • @OurgasmComrade
      @OurgasmComrade 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @johnmc3862 edit: see edit in previous message:
      2/4 has accent/down-beat only on beat one, whereas 4/4 has the biggest downbeat on beat one, with a medium accent on beat three. It gives the default feel of common time, whereas 2/4 feels more like a march rhythm due to the uniform nature of the pulses. There is only one pulse in 2/2 which sounds as "STRONG weak STRONG weak" whereas 4/4 has two pulses (aka duple pulse) and sounds like "STRONG weak MEDIUM weak". Listen to where the accents occur in the lyrics of Jolene and how the phrases are sung, it's definitely in 4/4 based on my description of why 2/2 and 4/4 are different

    • @KenFullman
      @KenFullman 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@OurgasmComrade If you want the same emphasis on 1 and 3 maybe it should just be written as 2/4 instead. Jolene definitely sounds like 4/4 to me.

    • @OurgasmComrade
      @OurgasmComrade 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @user-qu5fp6or1z oh yes you are correct and I made an error, I should have specified 2/4 when I made the "march" analogy. Which 2/4 and 4/4 both have different feels than 2/2, my mistake

  • @zzzaphod8507
    @zzzaphod8507 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I might notate Country Roads in 4/4 time, with the bars twice as long (e.g., the first full bar of the excerpt starting on "roads" and the second one starting on "home"), so "roads" would be a dotted quarter instead of a whole note tied to a half note. Not sure if that has been considered. Notating it in 2/2 misses that some "downbeats" are stronger than others (the beginning of "roads" is stronger than the third beat of "roads"). Same with Folsom Prison Blues: "hear", "the", "train" etc. can all be eighth notes and that excerpt can be 3 bars of 4/4 instead of 6 of 2/2.

  • @noscrubbubblez6515
    @noscrubbubblez6515 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Jack Bruce's "As You Said" has one bar of 1/8 in it. It is used perfectly and cannot be omitted in any way.

  • @pedroaleb
    @pedroaleb 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Great video. When translating it to 4/4 at the beginning you doubled the tempo, but i was feeling it more like couting the first two 2/2 bars as one 4/4 bar, and doing so i wouldnt be doubling the tempo but simply couting in a 4 way instead of 2. It also helps with the strong beat situation once it is not uncommon to accentuate the 1 and 3. At least it sounds comfortable for me. I would definitely write it in 4/4 if i was given the task

  • @hifijohn
    @hifijohn 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    We use to call this a polka beat(oompha oompha)

    • @MichaelOrtega
      @MichaelOrtega 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Japanese girl with blue hair holding a vegetable in her hand and singing in a high pitch (ACTIVATED) 🎶 Levan Polkka… 🎵

  • @darkjanggo
    @darkjanggo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    0:37 beatles example

  • @souzapatrick72
    @souzapatrick72 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I'm waiting for the 1/1 time signature video

    • @hifijohn
      @hifijohn 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      john cages 4'33" is on 0/1 time

    • @zzzaphod8507
      @zzzaphod8507 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Borodin's 2nd Symphony 2nd movement is in 1/1. About 108 bpm, so 432 quarter notes per minute.

    • @jpsned
      @jpsned 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I once conducted a piece that had many different time signatures including one bar of 1/4. Fun!

    • @chrisisbell3080
      @chrisisbell3080 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Very fast pieces are sometimes counted "one in a bar". I have heard conductors say this before starting a piece to indicate how they will be conducting it.

    • @zzzaphod8507
      @zzzaphod8507 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@chrisisbell3080 Occasionally fast pieces are even counted one beat for every TWO bars, believe it or not. Beethoven Harp Quartet third movement middle (C major) section, for example. One recording I checked goes about 184 bars per minute so it's more convenient to beat every 2 bars (92 per minute). It's in 3/4 so that's about 552 quarter notes per minute, the fastest I've seen.

  • @royalex21
    @royalex21 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I really enjoyed this video, David! I was hoping you would do a video on 2/2 time and was very excited to see this.
    I remember right before the pandemic hit, I was gonna be in the pit band for a production of School of Rock the musical that my music school was doing, and one of the songs, “Where Did The Rock Go?” was notated in 2/2 time

  • @parker9627
    @parker9627 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Great comparison of 2/2 and 4/4 time. I have always struggled with that. Thank you for making it much clearer for me 👍

  • @motmotyo-yoandt-shirts6009
    @motmotyo-yoandt-shirts6009 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Mirror in the Bathroom by the English Beat is a great example of 2/2 time.

  • @shipsahoy1793
    @shipsahoy1793 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent job Dave !!!👍 I’ve always been a stickler about these matters, but many are desensitized to it. Kudos and keep up the great work in music education! 👨🏻

  • @PsychedelicChameleon
    @PsychedelicChameleon 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi David Bennett Piano, I have struggled for years to understand how and why and when to use 2/2 notation versus 4/4 notation. Thank you for this explanation, but it hasn't really done it for me. For example, in your longest and most detailed example, Country Roads, you give audio examples of it in 2/2 time, but you've changed the way it sounds for your example (you've removed the percussive hits that happen on both "and" counts). And then when you give the audio demonstration in 4/4 time, you've added equal emphasis chord and percussive hits on every quarter note, which is something that is rarely done in any kind of music. What the song actually does on the original popular recording is give base notes on the 1 and the 2 counts, but give various percussive hits on all four quarter notes "1" "and" "2" "and". These percussive hits emphasize "1" the most with the lower pitches, also strongly emphasizing "2" with lower pitches, but emphasize both "and" counts about equally with higher pitched percussion including finger snaps. This pattern is also very common in pop 4/4 time. I suspect that the written time signatures 2/2 versus 4/4 have a greater effect in the performers mind and thinking while playing than they do on the actual sound of the music, so when people that are very musically literate like yourself hear music that is in 2/2 time versus 4/4, if you are able to tell whether it's 2/2 or 4/4 then the same kind of mentality happens in your mind when you listen. As you listen "in" 2/2 or "in" 4/4, your mind greatly exaggerates the distinctiveness of the 2/2 versus 4/4 sound and feel, where as to a musically dyslexic person like myself, most of the time music sounds very similar or identical between 2/2 and 4/4. For me, as a result when I try to play music in 2/2 or 4/4, I struggle to know how to play them differently. For example, here is what Country Roads actually sounds like, and you and your viewers will note that it sounds almost exactly halfway between your two 2/2 and 4/4 examples: th-cam.com/video/1vrEljMfXYo/w-d-xo.html

  • @elvy.jean1980
    @elvy.jean1980 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    You don't answer the question I was scratching my head about : why 2/2 and not 2/4 considering it's always quite uptempo and that the half-note (or minim) is quite a long note.
    If you play a very fast country song, why not even 2/8....
    Please answer ;)

    • @ericwarr9088
      @ericwarr9088 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      2/2 because of the emphasis of the 1st and 3 rd beats... 2/4 would be the same as 4/4 with twice as many bars/measures and 2/8 the BPM/tempo would be cut in half to get the same results as 2/4 or 4/4. (pertaining to the songs mentioned in the video).

  • @TheGerkuman
    @TheGerkuman 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Maggie's Farm is interesting in that it's solely the bass guitar that gives it that 2/2 quality. The drummer is doing a standard 4/4 pattern. Which goes to show how important instrumentation is.

  • @FairyCRat
    @FairyCRat 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I got into your channel recently and right now I'm binge watching the time sig videos, it's kind of hilarious to be getting more and more complex, all the way up to 19, and then falling back down to 2/2.

  • @lucasvillani5484
    @lucasvillani5484 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I love how Country Roads instantly becomes rock with 4/4 time xD

    • @kakahtukat
      @kakahtukat 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Rocky Roads

  • @ryan_1314
    @ryan_1314 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I just realized a lot of modern dubstep is in 2/2 due to the kick and snare usually hitting on beat 1 and 3, as well as people headbanging at raves moving on beat 1 and 3 as well. Of course some will still be in 4/4 though due to other percussion or basses having a 4/4 feel. Some pretty good examples are versa - the pit, samplifire & evilnoiz - helheim, papa khan - rain, and akeos - soul material

    • @ilyaprofit
      @ilyaprofit 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They call it half time and i wonder what is the difference between cut time and half time

    • @ryan_1314
      @ryan_1314 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ilyaprofit most likely because the drum beat is usually a 4 on the floor style beat (commonly used in techno or house) at half speed, or half time

  • @DustfeatherOfFire
    @DustfeatherOfFire 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    A fun example of a metal band using 2/2 is Sabaton, whose songs often have a march-like tempo to go with their lyrical themes of military history - 'Carolus Rex' and 'The Last Stand' being two such examples :)

  • @Misteribel
    @Misteribel 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    In a way, 2/2 is closer to 2/4, with each note value doubled. Both count in 2 beats per measure. 4/4 counts in 4. Rach III in 2/4 would then sound the same (adjusted for note length and tempo), whereas 4/4 does not.

    • @thebestspork
      @thebestspork 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      this. 2/2 is just 2/4 with doubled note values. It has very little to do with 4/4.

  • @MatusFinchus
    @MatusFinchus 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was always told this was called 'Marching Time' and of course a lot of big band songs from the WW2 years etc. yield to that. :) Another great video, thanks!

    • @michaelmicek
      @michaelmicek 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I understood march (and polka) time to be 2/4, admittedly an even subtler difference.

  • @ikaray1775
    @ikaray1775 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very interesting! Never heard of this concept before

  • @retto1155
    @retto1155 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Don't know how much this counts, but reading Breve to me (breh-veh) reads as "half" purely since I'm a barista at my day job, and a latte breve is a latte made with steamed cream (half-and-half in NA) -- I don't speak Italian myself, but there's a correlation there

  • @bettyswunghole3310
    @bettyswunghole3310 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm so inept that I have to learn the rhythm first, and then worry about "emphasis" afterwards...can't do it any other way...

  • @sarahedwards2
    @sarahedwards2 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Some sea chanties are also in 2/2, for example “Drunken Sailor” (at least how I learned it in 7th grade strings class, which was my first introduction to 2/2 written as such, rather than a C with a line through it) and “The Wellerman”.

  • @stevesm2010
    @stevesm2010 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What would really help me as a complete beginner in music is to have a metronome click on the beats. I've watched (and enjoyed!) a number of your time signature vids and I always wish you'd played a version with clicks to follow, as well as a non clicked version :-)

  • @joe1205
    @joe1205 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Africa by Toto uses 2/2. It is able to have odd numbers of bars without it sounding weird. If it was in 4/4, it wouldn't add up and sound like something's missing.

  • @felipecasanueva5064
    @felipecasanueva5064 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This blew my mind!! I had never heard of it!

  • @rafaele.zavalacamero3099
    @rafaele.zavalacamero3099 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    El 2/2 tiene mucho sentido y -por tanto- y utilización en la música académica, pero en la música popular no tanto, la mayoría de las canciones (incluídas las de los ejemplos) se pueden escribir en 2/4 sin problema.

  • @Alex-wx4bz
    @Alex-wx4bz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your videos are amazing. I've been watching and taking notes on all your videos about chord progressions to break me out of a songwriter's block. You're always looking for ideas: I noticed that in many of the examples here, the music is notated less "accurately" than the actual song, intentionally of course. Why does sheet music write music without the swing and specificity of the actual music? For instance, in Country Roads, the notes that are actually sung are not precisely notated where the singer sings them but actually in a more "robotic" and mechanical way that would sound strange if the singer actually sang them that way. Maybe you could do a video on this? Thank you!

  • @ledhed5717
    @ledhed5717 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like to think Waylon Jennings did this a lot with his songs. As a drummer I always called it the “Waylon Beat”. I can think of so many of his songs that have that 2/2 feel or “cut time.”

  • @freddieboyle7848
    @freddieboyle7848 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    supergrass sometimes i make you sad is a good 2/2 example

  • @andretavares5424
    @andretavares5424 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    the point is not comparing 2/2 with 4/4, but 2/2 with 4/2. That's where the difference is very obscure or non existent

  • @noelleggett5368
    @noelleggett5368 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In a lot of music of the classical and romantic periods (c. 1750-1910), there is a very big difference between the performance of common and ‘alla breve’ time.

  • @vxp6464
    @vxp6464 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Hello!

  • @artielundberg7125
    @artielundberg7125 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another gem! Here’s my question- i always learned the 2/2 or cut time signature was just a way to write music in the more readable form than 4/4- Would you do the great example of how it’s more than that. I find myself counting 2/2 time as 1+2+3+4+ across two measures…because that tends to lineup with the two in the four on the drum beat. But when you played the 4 beats as would normally be played on country road I was like that’s just awful! Lol. Nice work again

  • @Thewisetone
    @Thewisetone 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    good video, I recommend that you analyze the music of the band the Wise Tone because it uses time changes as in the theme Waste of time 5/4 to 4/4... They also make time changes as in the How Long theme from 100bpm to 75bpm etc. They apply many harmonizations with interesting style and similar to The Beatles, you could start listening to it and see how it is

  • @mrmillcake8525
    @mrmillcake8525 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    great stuff!

  • @robgronotte1
    @robgronotte1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can't wait for the video about songs is 1/1 time!

  • @rqshades
    @rqshades 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    @davidbennettpiano Could you show us a comparison of Country Roads in 2/2 vs 4/4, but with only a single vocal part and no accompanying instruments?
    The completely rewritten bass and drum parts in the video's example made it difficult to get any sense of how the time signature affected the feel of the song.

  • @therightrabbit
    @therightrabbit 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very interesting... thanks so much

  • @isaacthomas6544
    @isaacthomas6544 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Embarrassing confession I guess, but I was in school band/other performing groups from ages 10 to 22 and have engaged with music as an occasional hobby since then and 2/2 was never really explained well to me and remained the one basic music theory thing that I've never been able to explain. So this FINALLY made it made sense. Earlier today I was driving and was listening to my Liked Songs playlist on Spotify and had two 2/2 songs appear back-to-back (Mucho Mungo/Mt Elga by Harry Nilsson, which actually switches between 4/4 and 2/2, and On the Bound by Fiona Apple) and I was like ohhhhhhhhh I get it now

  • @althealligator1467
    @althealligator1467 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    By this definition of 2 2, though, with a strong and weak beat, the drum part of most songs in 4 4 would be in 2 2. Like Billie Jean, for example, the emphasis is on those two beats, so it's pretty much played in 2 2, but notated in 4 4 eother way. Which goes to show that a time signature, lile chords or modes, is something you play and not sonething that's intrinsic to the music.

  • @bobblake7132
    @bobblake7132 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video David, always interesting. Regarding Pianote I find it mildly amusing to use the In My Life as an example as I’m sure you already know that George Martin never played that section of the song at full speed.

  • @alvelycken7893
    @alvelycken7893 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    funnily enough i just played at a concert (orchestra) where basically every piece was in 2/2

  • @musicplaylists64
    @musicplaylists64 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    Great video! But the thing is you never mentioned 2/4 or even 2/8 time. Most of the songs you showed were not of slow tempo and I would say I felt a lot of them as more of a 2/4 personally.

    • @nelsonramos208
      @nelsonramos208 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      The John Denver song is in 2/4, not 2/2.

    • @Livengoodproject
      @Livengoodproject 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Absolutely. But I didn’t go to college.. just piano lessons

  • @BeatlesGirlKaren
    @BeatlesGirlKaren 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow, I had no idea Jolene is 2/2 ~ a great lesson today David, thanks!

  • @Poetslove
    @Poetslove 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very interesting and informative video as always David. Are we getting another orchestral video soon? maybe brass

    • @DavidBennettPiano
      @DavidBennettPiano  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! And yeah the brass video is coming out soon! 😊

    • @Poetslove
      @Poetslove 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DavidBennettPiano Looking forward to it.

  • @koenlieckens
    @koenlieckens 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Also all of the Latin American music can preferably be written in 2/2 since the feel of the music is really two and f.i. in Cuban music the clave can be turned around by just adding or leaving a bar instead of having to change the time signature...

  • @homermao
    @homermao 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you so much for the video. And what is 2/4 in all of that ?

  • @whycantiremainanonymous8091
    @whycantiremainanonymous8091 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm used to this being referred to as 2/4, not 2/2.

  • @bonsai3547
    @bonsai3547 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    youve changed my life... good job

  • @jeffreysalem2735
    @jeffreysalem2735 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This never made sense to me before. Thank you.

  • @brentdoncliff2845
    @brentdoncliff2845 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Total music agnostic here. I find you videos very informative. I'd be interested to know if you have done a video about the various symbols used on sheet music and what they mean.

    • @michaelmicek
      @michaelmicek 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Look for his tier list (?)
      What comes to mind anyway.

  • @SirKenchalot
    @SirKenchalot 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Also, before recorded music, musical notation wasn't the only way of recording how the composer intended to be played as human memory also provided an account for those who heard it under the baton of the composer.

  • @markgraham2312
    @markgraham2312 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That was excellent.

  • @sambajane
    @sambajane 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you so much

  • @sergedotcom
    @sergedotcom 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Can confirm country roads are in West Virginia as someone newly living here.

  • @scottbrower9052
    @scottbrower9052 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fascinating.

  • @rollo2007
    @rollo2007 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The first thing that came to my mind when I saw two two was rach 3. I love the concerto

  • @grubhubkid1999
    @grubhubkid1999 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Could you make a video about inverse/reverse picardy third? Like a major song ending on a minor chord

  • @tabascocat5102
    @tabascocat5102 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Dont get it. I need a VERY patient teacher in front of me-a piano and about 3 hours

  • @dabanjo
    @dabanjo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Country roads, folsom prison, Maggie's farm, and Jolene are 4/4. All these songs were written primarily with guitar accompaniment, which is always 4 count on folk or country style songs.

    • @ghosttownreview1531
      @ghosttownreview1531 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yep! Not sure where he's getting 2/2 from. The melodic phrases in Country Roads are clearly in 4/4 time. The words, "Roads, Home, Place, beLONG" are all on the 1 beat of 4/4 time where the words like "Coun-try" and "Take Me" are on 4. This isn't the first time David has mistaken pickup notes as down beats.

    • @0neirogenic
      @0neirogenic 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Having played a bunch of folk, country, and bluegrass songs as a bassist I can tell you that the bass usually makes it sound like it's in 2 when the rest of the instruments are in 4. At least that's what my ears were hearing, it doesn't really matter what the numbers actually are if it sounds right 😅

    • @dabanjo
      @dabanjo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @0neirogenic yes, that's because you are choosing to play bass notes on the 1st and 3rd beat, as is the style of country or bluegrass. You can play more if you want. I think that's what this video is trying to say, but the feel of a song isn't necessarily the time signature.

  • @maddie8983
    @maddie8983 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I watched the whole video and I still don't understand how 2/2 is any different than 4/4 😂 I suppose that's why I'm not a musician

    • @michaelmicek
      @michaelmicek 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Even as (choral) singer it took a _long_ time to get it.
      It doesn't make any difference how we sing, it's just what the instrumentalists are doing with the rhythm.

  • @RadioAlpaka6
    @RadioAlpaka6 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Hi david, its actually pronounced "uh-ll-uh breh veh" (wich means "to be brief") in italian.
    Love your vids :)

    • @MyRackley
      @MyRackley 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And the plural of "tempo" is "tempi", not "tempos".

    • @Strange-Songs
      @Strange-Songs 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MyRackley Not in proper English. Perhaps in Pretentious English.

    • @Strange-Songs
      @Strange-Songs 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      David was speaking English not Italian. Italian and English are different languages. Different languages pronounce words differently.

    • @RadioAlpaka6
      @RadioAlpaka6 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Strange-Songs ahahah, english centric nosense. If i pronunce words like computer (ko mpy ta') i pronounce them innproper english even though im speaking my own language. This is how lends works.

    • @Strange-Songs
      @Strange-Songs 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RadioAlpaka6 English centric non-sense? So an English speaker is required to pronounce words of Italian origin just like a native speaker of Italian? This is NOT how "lends" work. I want to hear you pronounce "computer". I doubt you can pronounce it with a native English r sound or proper intonation...and there is nothing wrong with that. Different languages have different sounds. The word for computer in Korean 컴퓨터 has no final r sound because that sound does not exist in Korean. So Koreans are wrong according to you?

  • @thomasnaylor2162
    @thomasnaylor2162 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for a Awsome site !!!!!!°😊

  • @georgewashington7083
    @georgewashington7083 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The 3rd movement of Holst's 1st suite is in 2/2

    • @KurtCobain-vh2sd
      @KurtCobain-vh2sd 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Bro, I thought you died in like 1793

    • @DrLC.
      @DrLC. 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ⁠​⁠@@KurtCobain-vh2sd I thought you died in 1994!

    • @KurtCobain-vh2sd
      @KurtCobain-vh2sd 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DrLC. Bro, i'm his reincarnation

  • @Al69BfR
    @Al69BfR 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yay and nay. From my personal practical standpoint, especially last weekend when I encountered this problem. 😉 In a 4/4 I would expect to hear bassdrum on beat 1 and 3 and snare on 2 and 4. In 2/2 bass drum would be on beat 1 and snare on beat 2. The same effect would be half time in the 4/4 you showed on screen. But to accommodate for the 4/4 notation I would use eight notes as shortest notes in the score so that BD and SN would hit at the same phrases when notated in 2/2. And in the examples of Johnny Cash Bob Dylon you can hear the SN hit 2 and 4. So imho it‘s the bass with the change from root to fifth that brings in the 2/2 feeling. So for me, hearing a 4/4 beat in a 2/2 notation would confuse me more than I‘m willing to confess. 🙂

    • @MyRackley
      @MyRackley 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're mainly referencing rock music conventions here. Brazilian music, e.g. Samba and Bossa Nova, has a lighter 2/2 feel, and drumkits are different from those used in rock, to express this. Have a listen to Rafael Barata - there are a few videos of him on TH-cam.

    • @Al69BfR
      @Al69BfR 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MyRackley I had the problem, that the medley went from 4/4 over 6/8 to 2/2. So everytime the tempo was adjusted to adapt to the beat. That way the overall feel stayed almost the same, but in the 2/2 section a half note had the same length as a fourth note in the 4/4 section. Little confused I was. To me that didn‘t make the score more readable, just measures shorter.

  • @bourbon2242
    @bourbon2242 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    hello david. could you make a video on how to figure out which chord extension to use. there are so many that sound amazing but I have no idea which ones to use for my chord progressions

    • @DavidBennettPiano
      @DavidBennettPiano  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nice idea. I’ll keep it in mind!

  • @NomeDeArte
    @NomeDeArte 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just start to learning Chopin prelude 28 op 4, which is alla breve too.

  • @nathanlowry3764
    @nathanlowry3764 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You should also point out that 2/2 vs. 4/4 also matters as to how it is conducted (in addition to how it is read or felt).

  • @ghstmn7320
    @ghstmn7320 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    can you do a video on songs that are in a weird tempo for the genre they are in?

  • @panosmosproductions3230
    @panosmosproductions3230 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s also common to find polka music in cut time. One example is Schultz’s Polka by Western Senators. That’s the most obvious example. But a more subtle one, now that I’m looking is Rosamunde Polka by Oktoberfest Party. I originally thought it was in 8/8 time. But now that I know what 2/2 time is, I know that just about every polka I’ve heard is in cut time.

    • @michaelmicek
      @michaelmicek 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I believe polkas (and marches) are 2/4.

  • @bobboulden
    @bobboulden 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Worth noting that a large portion of American military marches are/were written in 2/2.

  • @truthinesssss
    @truthinesssss 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you

  • @GLUMDALKLITCH
    @GLUMDALKLITCH 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Merci beaucoup. C'est une révélation !

  • @pepdog1
    @pepdog1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This video made me realise that Danny Elfman's "This is Halloween" (for The Nightmare Before Christmas) is probably in 2/2 time (or at least can be transcribed to 2/2 rather easily?)
    Time signatures are going to be the death of me tbh

  • @LPerezDancer
    @LPerezDancer 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    is there a 2/4? if so, what would that sound like?

  • @jayrussell3796
    @jayrussell3796 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As someone who plays by "ear", this is something I wish I would have studied harder as a youth in band class, instead of just memorizing the feel and sound of the song. Time signatures always seemed like rubbish to me but the reality is is that it helps to understand how the music really flows.

  • @CommanderGinyu
    @CommanderGinyu 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was so hoping you'd bring Rach 3 to the table when I read the title. Lets say I wasn't disappointed :D

  • @Baldbutstillhuman
    @Baldbutstillhuman 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You are the most intelligent music instructor I know :)

  • @mikeselinker2990
    @mikeselinker2990 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Take Me Home, Country Roads in 4/4 is kind of awesome, though.

    • @InsertNameHereBoi
      @InsertNameHereBoi 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah totally unexpected how good that sounded

    • @MyRackley
      @MyRackley 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🤣

  • @Whitestripe71
    @Whitestripe71 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So in the 2/2 song examples - Jolene, Country Road - is a half note equal to one beat or two? Before watching this video I'd've heard those half notes as quarter notes, each one a single beat - I'd've heard one bar of 4/4 instead of two bars of 2/2. This is a really interesting, instructive video for me, thanks. I'd not really thought about 2/2 as a time signature before.

    • @roma540
      @roma540 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Whatever goes as lower numeral defines the size of a beat. For 4/4 or 3/4 it's quarter notes, for 2/2, respectively, half notes. 6/8 have Eight note beats - and so on.

  • @leonhardeuler675
    @leonhardeuler675 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    8:15 Jay Foreman. That's kind of cool. A collab would be nice.

    • @DavidBennettPiano
      @DavidBennettPiano  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We did collab before on a video about “music to make you laugh” 😊 and we recently both featured in an episode of Geography now 😊

  • @perryjude1230
    @perryjude1230 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Than you. This has ALWAYS confused me!

  • @tommyhaynes9157
    @tommyhaynes9157 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    In 2/2 country you usually have the bass hitting the root on 1 and the 5th on 3

  • @mikefelber5129
    @mikefelber5129 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was looking forwards to a composition in cut time

  • @joe1205
    @joe1205 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Have you done a video on songs that switch time signature?
    Two examples I like, to the best of my knowledge, are Iris - The Goo Goo Dolls, and Times Like These - Foo Fighters.

    • @liquidshadows79
      @liquidshadows79 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The Dance of Eternity by Dream Theater

    • @michaelmicek
      @michaelmicek 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He definitely has

    • @joe1205
      @joe1205 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@michaelmicek can you send me a link?

    • @michaelmicek
      @michaelmicek 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@joe1205 it's called songs that mix different time signatures th-cam.com/video/PWHKtkx6F00/w-d-xo.html

    • @michaelmicek
      @michaelmicek 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Songs that mix different Time Signatures

  • @waynetardiff9328
    @waynetardiff9328 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well explained!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @seanfaherty
    @seanfaherty 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    fuck it, let's just call everything 1/1 and go for drinks