2021 BMW 3 Series 330e vs Volvo S60 T8 review - which is the best plug-in hybrid? | What Car?
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- Need an executive saloon that sips fuel and even lets you travel on electric power alone? The BMW 3 Series 330e and Volvo S60 T8 are interesting options - but what are they like and how far will they REALLY travel using electric juice? Watch our review to find out.
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I love my BMW 330e m sport. The drive is amazing. I smile every time I drive it. I hadn’t considered a Volvo, but this S60 T8 is Impressive.
Excellent review. I own a 2017 BMW 330e and a 2021 Volvo XC60 T8 Recharge and I must say this comparison is spot on. Everything that was mentioned from the handling, engine noise, interior class, and suspension ride comfort was exactly as I had experienced with these two models.
I’ve spent time driving both. If you are a 50+ road warrior, the Volvo seat comfort wins hands down. 95% of driving is not on the weekend hitting the dragon’s tail. How about comfort and acceleration onto the Highway.
First time in my life that I actually prefer the Volvo looks over BMW. What is happening?
I don't see a clear winner. Based on your comments, it depends on what you want in a car. The Volvo may not handle as well, but it is quieter and on most roads, smoother. You said the interior quality is better on the Volvo. You said the Volvo has more room. Volvos usually have nicer seats. OK, the BMW is more composed, if firmer over broken pavement and steers nicer. So it is the better driver's car. But does that make it overall better? I'm not sure I agree. I also find Volvo to just have a more interesting interior. BMW needs to take some chances. BMWs are solid and so but a bit sterile. Volvos have less sharp dynamics. What tradeoff do you want? Just seems to me the Volvo may turn out to be the easier car to live with.
But the s60 is much more expensive than the 3 series
@@juliusmabanga3849 naah, i‘m looking for either one right now and i can assure you the bmw is not cheaper at all
@@juliusmabanga3849 Try to compare them with all extras configured accordingly. Volvo does not give you the same granularity in terms of extras, so you'll have to add those into the equation. Otherwise, it's apples and pears. Volvo's basic offerings include a lot of stuff that you have to configure as extras with BMW, Mercedes, Audi, VW - basically all other German brands.
@@juliusmabanga3849, the S60 has a more sophisticated set up, far more standard equipment such as adaptive led lighting as standard, but what I can't understand is why, when the Volvo beats the 3 series on pretty much everything bar a more "involved" drive, why the 3 series wins. oh, yeah, like always, BMW offer the best backhanders.....
It would have been helpful if you'd done a 3rd mileage comparison between both cars in their hybrid mode. Do a fixed drive of about 50-100 miles and compare the mpg at the end. For company car drivers who rack up the miles it is a useful figure to have.
3:53 "Everything feels incredibly well bolted together"
*the entire centre console flexes*
Lol , I saw that too.
It was a camera shake.
better review (more in depth) than the “driving electric” channel, thanks, I’m still going for the volvo, based on manufacture standard and standard versus optional upgrades, hopefully the infotainment version will be revised on the volvo. Thanks again
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Would be interesting to know the maintenance costs after warranty expires? That can be a real decision maker.
Can you please do a review of the new Volvo V60 T8. I would appreciate that very much.
Unfortunately, we don't get the new 330e here in Malaysia. But we have a slightly uprated S60 with a 407hp that goes from 0-60 in 4.4s with the HK speakers as standard.
Amier Adzha dont worry, its coming the end of this year or early next year. Unfortunately in malaysia we can’t place an order so i guess we gotta wait until its here
It's already here
@@aravindradhakrishna8660 yess. Got the chance to drive it as well.
@@azharkacak1978 i won’t disagree. Objectively speaking, the S60 really is a lot of car for the money. But i’ve driven both S60 and 330i (not 330e), and I think that the 330i does make you feel more special on the move.
Bowers and Wilkins is better 19 speakers 1400 watts .
We've owned mucho unreliable & fast depreciating Beemers and now this 2021 Volvo S60 T8 and can assure You,.............👌We are now totally convinced, this Volvo S60 T8 is the single BEST Automobile we have ever owned in every single category (Luxury, Safety, Raw Power. Fuel Economy & Sound System) End of comparison!
Useful video! I’m literally making this decision
me too~
@@agnesf2659 Volvo is the car to have
Shame you didn’t mention the under floor storage in the boot of the 330e / folding boot floor! This adds quite a large amount of additional storage and versatility!
Makes no mention of the Volvo being 4 wheel drive (provided you have some battery charge left)? If you compared list prices with the xDrive BMW they are almost identical to the Volvo. And anyone with any experience of trying to make the slightest of progress on a slightly icy minor incline in a rear wheel drive 3 series might see all wheel drive as a significant plus point? So with price levelled out, there's not much between them and it may just come down to what you want other people to think you are like based on being either a BMW driver or a Volvo driver.
You should address the consumption in hybrid mode. or automatic mode. that is, that the car itself decides whether it should run on petrol or electricity or both. and a hybrid car should consume less energy when driving in the city. as it will transfer energy to the battery every time you brake or pull your foot off the accelerator pedal
We‘ll be getting the S60 Recharge in 2 weeks. I love this car. It‘s amazing. In my opinion Volvo is now building cars that are only comparable with Mercedes.
I put the Volvo S60 in the same class as Infiniti, Acura, Volkswagon, Lexus. They're fine. Not any huge dealbreakers. But they are not premium. More like semi-premium. 0-60 is definitely better on the Volvo S60 T8, but the BMW 330e beats it in the 1/4 mile. BMW wins everywhere else in every way, and is less expensive. You can get a 2021 330e base for about $35k plus tax and dealer fee right now after summer rebate and tax incentive. And 0.9% financing over 60 months. Considerably more for the S60.
@@free-qe6wx You‘re making a different comparison. I don‘t know if you‘ve ever owned an Volvo, but I highly doubt it. Putting the S60 in the same category as the other 4 Brands you‘ve named is ridiculous imo.
@@DavidBrainiac I don't need to own it. I've been in it. Its just not there with Mercedes and BMW. Its like the four I mentioned. Not actually a premium car.
But the question is really whether Volvo is counted as a people's car anymore. at least for those who want a hybrid car petrol el. in sweden, however, cars can also run on petrol gas bifuel for example biogas
I have owned a 2020 Volvo until very recently and all I can say is that Volvo is simply a Chinese brand trying to look premium!
The worst purchase in my entire life!
One thing that strikes me about car reviews is the inconsistency in measures used. Infotainment screens, economy and wheel diameters are imperial while engine sizes, boot spaces and tyre widths are all metric. Note, tyre sizes are imperial (diameter) and metric (width). The three and a half pint engine in my Mini Cooper S is having an identity crisis!
I have a Volvo, my computer screen is the same , however the comments re the unfriendleness of it are wrong - i have not tuched mine for months - everything is voice activated and works well and first time!
These are my two favorite cars at the moment 😍
Interesting how prices vary across the world. I live in Thailand and am currently looking at both. BMW is 20% more expensive and does not have as many "sweetners" when purchasing. So, S60 for me.
Volvo or Bust. Trust me you don't need sharp steering when you're stuck on the freeway. However, what makes the difference is that Volvo audio system tuned to perfection. I don't know if you can get that on the bmer
I got 30 miles of pure leccy driving from a 330e. Mixed driving commute
I moved from a Seat 184 (aka golf gtd) to MBW 330e for family (space) and € reasons (€7500 back from Irish Gov as "electric"). A no brainer (financially). The 330e is a lovely, kinda fast, comfortable car. It has more oomph on a straight line but just doesn't corner like the Seat. It's just not as much fun for the driver who (occasionally) wishes to push it. The 330e has excellent enconomy but looses (front) grip unexpectedly (I have to use run flats as rural roads) in the wet compared with the Seat which "gently" told me of impending slip. Great car, good economy, ticks all the boxes bar the "yeah" factor.
How to get this 7500€ back? Do i need to order New car or can i get it from saler?
is that bmw less then 50g/km CO2 exhaust emissions and is capable of being operated with zero emissions for a minimum range
of 10 miles??
Yes
The new one is rated at 22 miles of range and some people are able to get 30 miles
Volvo looks way better but im prejudice. I drive a s60 t8. And its the better option for 98% of you daily driving here in the Netherlands. Not if you live in the counteysides of the UK.
These cars use the electric motor to provide boost acceleration. so when they say 0 to 100, they mean that you are on the petrol engine and the electric motor on at the same time
Love the video, hate the bloody adverts !
get YT prenium- well worth it in my opinion
I decided to run a Toyota Aygo for the daily commute and in the past 5 years I haven't needed to charge it once.
My 330e carries 4 people through 40km round trip to work everyday at 0l/100km. How does your Aygo fair with 4 people inside?
Pretty sure electicly isn’t a word. Electronically, might have been the one you wanted 🤣
In daily driving you do not need sharp steering like on BMW, you more appreciate the luxury and comfy ride of the Volvo, which can be also fun to drive. Some say it is very capable car, also in cornering but just feel differently than BMW. And it is more safe and reliable. So no, the boot is not the only reason to buy the Volvo as this so called expert says.
myslecinaczej that was actually an easy Win for the BM
@@thehauke7981 No -it was not again biased towards so called "sporty car "
I would easily chose the Volvo.
Well I am biased too :) I just do like BMW!
@@myslecinaczej8674 I am on your side. Some other channels cover it better and let me tell more about the driving.
1. The boot of the Volvo, especially the Wagon V60 is not smaller in the plugin hybrid. The BMW however has no second floor, since there is the battery. Volvo has the battery in the middle console, that's why the big hump at the back seat.
2. No channel mentions their S60/V60 T8 comes in the R-Design, which is more sporty and even less comfy as it can be. There is an inscription version, which is even more comfy to drive and has the best seating in this class. They can even be compared to S-Series, A8 and 7-Series seats.
3. Only some channels have capable drivers, who are willing to handle the car like a sports car. Also almost none found the setting to change the handling of the steering wheel. I drove "only" der D4 of the V60, but let me tell you how it was impressive in corners. I went 60km/h (40mph) on a twisted hill and the car didn't even flinch in the corners. Yes, there is some body movement, but not as bad as described in this review. You can take the car sporty around corners and you won't be disappointed.
And somehow the bigger engine was forgotten in the final words. currently in this class Volvo has the biggest plugin hybrid engine. With an empty battery the other cars can only watch it from the back. Some feature like "holding" and "charging" the battery while driving are also missing. AFAIK none other manufacturer has that.
I also don't think the reviewer appreciated the silence in the car enough. Especially with the Bower and Wilkins Sound System you can ignore everything that is not in the car. If you are like me and don't want to hear engine sounds, then Volvo is the MUCH better choice. Especially as a wagon.
Oh, and When you fully equip the BMW and the Volvo they cost only 2k difference. Which, honestely at 75k€ (dunno what in Pound or $), you mostly will go with the more comfort and luxury, which by any means, the BMW can't match. As a sporty car, you won't get the plugin of BMW, but rather the M package.
But on the review they also say the bmw (without the m sport optional suspension) deals with imperfections on the road better. And changing settings while driving on a touch screen is a road hazard.
In fact steering and handling gives you the real feel of the car. If you want to feel the road under your wheels you need 3 series.
I don’t care about comfy feeling combined with light imprecise steering…
VOLVO FOREVER
BMW hands down. Cheaper, best in class nav system, best driving experience and it doesn't look as dull as Volvo. Proper manly driving machine. If you're a 60 and over, Volvo is exactly what you need. Keep away from commenting on my opinion if you're biased. So am I.
Sorry the interior on my A4 2019 is not great, it rattles and is not as good as 320 I had as hire car...VAG seems to be on a nose dive with interior, and BMW I Drive is vastly superior, with buttons..real buttons...
Wish Whatcar covered charging times...
About the same for both cars (3hour). Max charging rate is 3.6 kW on a type 2 charger. About 5 to 6 hours on a home socket
Can you use litre and km instead of gallon and miles?
Volvo ❤️
Day & night S60
Love 😘💕💕 Volvo S60
... you quoted the T6 0-60 time buddy. T8’s is under 5 seconds. 4.4 to be exact.
Nobody has managed to get sub 5 seconds in the T8 in any video, or review I have seen.
Mark Dutton don’t know which reviews you’re reading then... I’ll be happy to share some articles with you though 👍🏼
Mark Dutton If you brake launch it you can easily get it under 5 seconds.
Its not polestar engineerd
@@juliusmabanga3849 shouldn’t matter... polestar engineered and T8 have the same exact engine and battery pack. Just different power programming. Both are only a tenth of two of a second off from each other.
What is the point of plug in hybrid?
Kino Pointless money spending in my opinion. I’d rather fully petrol or diesel. I can’t trust full electric vehicles duel to low ranges and high costs.
Kino, in the UK they are great for company car drivers due to low BIK.
It allows you to charge at home if you can, then your first 25 miles or so each day are electric, which trebles most peoples' average miles per gallon and gives you the smooth quiet ride that you only get with an EV.
If you can charge everyday at home or at work, you have 25 (give or take) of EV range. And at least where I live running on electricity is way way cheaper than a economical diesel. (And most of public charging stations are free here also)
Also emissions are low, so lower taxes (if your country calculates car/road tax based on that) and this type of cars should be able to enter ULEZs to be implemented in Europe
If you mostly do highway miles a plug-in isnt for you tho, simple as that
Saving money....I have the t8 and haven’t bought gas for 5 weeks...I had a t5 before the t8 and was buying fuel weekly. I’m saving $60 a week...
Really? ”Quality feel” is the only thing you talk about interior wise..? Tried using Volvos screen & drive at the same time..?
when you are the car maker (BMW) with the worst reliability record of the last 20 years it's not a good idea to make a car that's even more complicated.
cristiandemirel1918 yet out of these two brands, its not BMW that bankrupted multiple times...
@@arnorobberechts7596 making good cars and making good marketing are two different things. BMW still depends on the image it created in the 70's, 80's and 90's, that is the sporty, lightweight car, which is also dependable. nowadays, their cars are neither that sporty or lightweight, compared with the competition, and I won't even say how dependable they are because everybody knows. I didn't mention nothing regarding Volvo because I don't know that much about Chinese car brands.
cristiandemirel1918 making good cars is something that results in good marketing. Nobody is going to buy a car from a brand that has a bad reputation... i am not saying BMW’s are the most reliable cars out there. But their are still far more worse brands out there. Actually, out of the latest reliability reports i have been reading. BMW is actually doing quite well for a premium car. It was ahead of its competition in most of them. Only Lexus beats everybody else. At home we have had some BMW cars for over 12 years now. We are verry happy with them! Well build cars! But if you want my real advice. Here it is. The more stuff you put in a car, the more things that can break down. I would ratter keep my car quite simple. So i can expend its lifetime duration and keep maintaining cheep.
Eletric drivetrain was built in partnership with toyota, I wouldn't worry with that. Keep the car simple in terms of tech extras and it sould hold up quite well
3 series BMW is the my favorite badge. Let's see when do I go for it? Insha'Allah
I have an s90 only because the interior quality in the merc and bmw is very crap I could not believe it.
I don't know what your criterias are but Volvo is so far behind in interior quality to BMW and Merc its not even real. Otherwise actually they are nice cars but the 100 % plastic spoils the feel.
If you do want to save a fortune on your new 330e go for the sport trim level instead of M sport. Same drivetrain and gadgets, no boy-racer bodykit and hard suspension. And you stay below the £40k list price which saves you a small fortune in road tax.
Anyoldion I agree - the ride is better/softer in the Sport trim while still being sporty. M-sport is very harsh unless you add adaptive damping.
M bumper looks way better for some
Without the m sport they look shite
handle most peoples commutes if you have a house with a charger. If you live in block of flats with off street parking. You are stuffed...electric/hybrid cars are sooooo overpriced for what they actually offer..
Volvo is stupid to drop a less fuel efficient and coarser car into the hybrid segment.
having driven both the BMW is overall sharper but it can also feel edgy in a way that could wear you down if you're old and fat like me.
5:45 he said Germany not Sweden😁
@@TheNorwayGamersHD it’s because he Speaks British, not english
26 miles is lousy new Rav4 has over 42 miles of Ev mode.
Also slow, boring, ugly and drives like crap.
RAV4 probably has a lot more space to pack a larger battery. The S60 is a mid size sedan. Also, the newer 2022 T8 has an available extended range that gives you a 40 mile range.
@samuelsandoval imo hybrids are better set ups on SUV since you lose less space overall.
Why do I get the feeling this guy is a BMW man. I've had 2 BMW's and 3 volvo's I wonder what my next car will be. 😁
Well obviously a third BMW to tie it.
Bmw
My so cute car
26 miles ffs? I think I'll wait a couple of years thanks.
Don’t buy urgent please read first my 330e nearly 4 years old done 38000 miles timing chain broke last month the engine is being rebuilt now but bmw said NO goodwill because it wasn’t brought at a bmw garage just over a year ago and it’s B service wasn’t completed a a bmw garage but a fully qualified vat registered garage absolutely disgraceful BMW should now stand for BE MORE WARY
S60 T8 407hp!!! And your choice is bmw? 💰 💴👀
Volvo for the win!
BMW :) with a simple remap this car has huge power gains and honestly, if you like driving and cars , why’d waste money on a Volvo (driving soccer mom) ? :)
id imagine that would kill the claimed mpg?
@@philliprobert the claimed mpg is already killed on the stock car. Hybrid plugins will be under government fire pretty soon because they have much higher emissions than the manufacturers claim ... it’s fair, although I still think they are very good transition cars for many people who live in high density population areas where there are no garages and of course you can’t leave your car easily charging overnight.
Im sorry but the soccer mom car looks better than a bmw now. Whats the point of driving the beemer through corners if both are underpowered?
@@hectoralejandro9883a remap and a new air filter improves the 330e from 292hp to 430hp … you know that a 2 liter turbo petrol engine with 182hp is hugely conservative, right ? Anyway I bet with you that a BMW with 300hp is more fun to drive than a 400hp Volvo every and any day 😂 scout’s word
If you have a bmw 3 without sport M, as I have, and I have asked collegues with same setup there are a couple of things to mention. The BMW is nervous around zero position and horribel in strong side wind.
Very far away from the Volvo or Audi behaviour.
Another Bimmer love fest. The BMW is dramatically less costly? BS! Comparably optioned (and both w/AWD), the pricing is on par. Volvo generally gives better dealer discounts.
Volvo wins only in boot space? What a farce! The Volvo absolutely annihilates the BMW in acceleration, yet will return similar fuel economy. He discounts this, as he discounts the Volvo’s better reliability. Even with this R-Design sporty interior, the Volvo is more comfortable to drive longer ranges; we’ll any range. Better seats and more rear passenger room. These new Volvo’s are also the safest cars to transport your loved ones than any other. They are vaults!
Btw reviewer, you can select added weight to the Volvo’s steering for sportier feel. Your comment about the less refined Volvo engine sound is laughable, because it’s negligible, but also considering how the Brits get along just fine with every other car on the road equipped with a clackety diesels. Now you are critiquing slight buzziness of one 2.0L 4 cylinder to another? Nonsense. Check from BMW in the mail.
330e isn't available as AWD, so your price comparison is flawed from the start. And maybe people don't want all the standard equipment of the volvo (like line centering assist) and are willing to have a lower price
Back seats have more leg room, but the middle seat has a bigger and larger hump, so it's less comfortable for 5 people.
Volvo infotainment is a mess, touch screen only while driving is a road hazard. Any car without physical button for AC heated seats and radio gets a big No from me. Also even using just touchscreen, BMW wins in ease of use
And using dealers discounts as an argument is just laughable, because it depends heavily on your local dealer (I had a way bigger discount on my 330e then what Volvo was giving me for a s60 T8)
Volvo powertain did feel less refined when I test drove both of the cars, even tho it had more power, the acceleration felt laggy and the gearbox didn't respond as fast as the BMW, in confort or sport mode
José Luís Lopes ye, had a coworker want a phev to replace his Tesla Model 3. He thinks it’s a piece of garbage quality wise. Paint chips, rust, harsh noises.
He thought he’d never get a bmw again but the new c class hybrid is not available in US. He said the bmw was surprisingly much better than Volvo. Felt there were too many “bling” pieces and using the nav system was terrible plus it’s vertical so it won’t work with Apple CarPlay very well.
Another coworker bought an M340i after owning only Honda’s and Acura’s because of how good it was. New bmws seem to all be great :)
Might not be true in every market. In the US, the BMW 330e is less expensive than the S60 T8 apples to apples. Like, 12-13% cheaper after rebates and tax incentives. BTW, the 330e beats the S60 T8 in the quarter mile. Its only quick off the line and then fizzles out just as quick.
BMW hands down
Hands down......... in ya pocket 😂😂😂😂
why do i think it's a "publi-reportage"...for BMW...again....??
Of course BMW 330E😀
I’m browsing everyday for a good lease deal for 330E ( 19,69,20 reg )
White colour M,sport Plus Pack
03:55 "well built"
📝
i would never buy the hybrids! They cost the same as my grandparents Tesla M3, and cost A LOT more to run than an electric car. With my Leaf I`m saving 3k a year in savings from diesel and tollroads alone. If i had bought a car with a loan instead it would literally pay it self. Electric cars are much more fun to drive and they are the future!
Dont compare these cars to a shitty Leaf.
New 340d will be better and probably near the same price
For a private buyer, I would agree, but the £250-300 a month BIK saving as a company car driver means that the 330e is a no brainer
And keep in mind that the 330e gets 420hp and 700nm with a simple stage one tune
suprise suprise BMW wins again..... car journalist favorite car
Or BMW just makes really good cars ... ;o)
@@Salsahaj overrated and expensive
@The Stig's English cousin well it's a image car for people. What about those burning BMW that BMW don't want to talk about. Instead they are force to sign a weaver to get some compensation!
@The Stig's English cousin if you Drive a bmw ,that says it all 🤣😂
@Latvietis96 really? Seen the latest BMW series?
People saying the Volvo is better build quality have obviously never sat in the new 3 series. The chassis is incredibly stiff, and coupled with the much better trim tolerances and acoustic glass it means the car feels incredibly solid. And there are definitely a lot more hard plastics in the S60 than the 3 series.
BMW! 40miles on BMW electric only
Lol, Volvo is better in almost every category, and for that reason he takes the BMW....
I think volvo just doesn't want driver to play with center console while driving.
I have a Volvo S60 T8. I can’t deny that the center screen is not great.
the 330e has the worst hybrid reliability..bmw dont do hybrids well...endless issues..
The hybrid system is provided by toyota, so it's not the problem.
Have friends with 330e from 2016+ with a 0 problems with the eletric drivetrain
We've got a fleet of around 10 G20 330e at work 20 plate and 21 plates and they have all been reliable
Who isn't ready to go electric? A 30K USD EV can do 150+ mile daily commute, if you can charge at home or at work.
Toi bemmi on vaan ruman näköinen.
Why pay 47k when you can get Tesla Model 3 Long Range for similar money
Teslas aren't the solution for everything - yet. These are primarily aimed at fleet/company buyers, who may regularly do huge mileages on a daily basis. Good as Tesla's Superchargers are - they are still nowhere near as fast as a pump, and if you don't have the ability to charge overnight at home (apartment, on-street, etc.), then you are even more screwed. It's pretty simple really. There's also the fact (though this is of course subjective), that the Model 3 has a face that looks like a duck's arse, and that not everyone is taken in by Elon's charms - but hey, each to their own. 😉
Michael Simpkins exactly that. You wouldn’t buy either
Just wish Tesla hadn’t made the front of the Model 3 so embarrassingly ugly!
The car is way worse.
Michael Simpkins not forgetting that the Tesla interiors are cheap and plastic and battery stamina is a big issue plus charge location availability makes them plain undesirable..build quality and looks also leave a lot to be desired..very overpriced too
330e hands down- no competition for me, it may be slower than the s60, but I opt for better tech and not a floppy infotainment which is on the Volvo.
330e makes *430hp* with stage 1 remap
/// AMG Volvo Polestar1 makes 619hp and 738tq and it's based off the exact same motor in that Volvo S60.
spek in kg l km
Whatcar is mainly for UK audience. They use lb, oz, gal, qt, pt, m, yd, ft, st....to a few. You might want to find a channel for your country/region or use a conversion table
Enzo Marrone UK uses a weird mashup of imperial and metric. Some signage on motorways is metres while most is miles for instance. NB the UK decided to adopt the metric system in 1965 but didn’t follow through
You wouldn’t buy either of these. You would be silly if you did, Completely pointless to buy. Aimed at company car market. Electric range is 22 miles at best!
I have the 330e and you’re wrong. Even in Winter with heaters and lights on I’m getting 25-27 miles pure electric that costs me £1.20 and vat at 5%. My BiK contributions next year will be 12%.But hey, carry on with your I’ll informed opinions.
Chris Voss ill informed?! I also have one darling. 2019 model... Well done for saving all those baby dolphins 👏🏼
I've had my 330e for 3 months and it's great, and it's a private buy after giving up work and competitively priced because I went for the sport instead of the M-sport. Electric range varies from 18 to 34 depending on driving conditions. 75% of my driving is in electric mode, and my overall mpg is 118.
I know a guy who is swapping his M3 for a 330e because he is sick of filling it up twice a week. Instead he will plug it in when he gets home and fill it up once a month and make do with only 290 bhp.
Pointless? My daily commute on a 330e is done completely in eletric mode. I've achieved over 30 miles with a single charge, and an eletric isn't for me because when I do a monthly 400km trip to my parents' with almost no public charging infrastructure I would be stranded.
Just because it isn't for you doesn't mean it's pointless.
What? Chinese Volvo won BMW in interior quality? You saw how that centre console moved..?
True , I inspect and drive cars for a living , 500+ a year actually , and I take them home aswell ,so I have time to inspect/drive and play with it..
I just drove that Volvo 2 days ago and the interior quality isn't as good as this guy says..that centre console for example moves like hell as you can see in the video aswell and for the price you pay, the interior is not that great ..and the driving experience in the Volvo is crap tbh, I mean let's be honest, yes its comfortable but it has nothing to do with driving pleasure, it has no dynamics, no sharpness etc..
Absolutely everyone that I collect a Volvo from, they are either old people or mommy's that take their children to school..just people that want to go from A to B in a comfortable car but they nothing to do or care about driving so ,no , I wouldn't buy a Volvo ,just because it hasn't got that driving pleasure to it ,and that BMW is absolutely brilliant to drive ,I'm not a BMW fan ,but this is the truth.. 🤷♂️
And now ,all Volvo fans will start swearing at me 😅
evokki0075 It’s built in Gothenburg.
Loser. Its built in usa. Has nothing to do with china.
@@dannfknd the S60 is built in the US, as @E S said...
@@MrTwinkie797 The V60 is built in both Sweden and Belgium.
BMW 330e FOR SURE
Poor electric range because of carrying around an oily lump and poor fossil fuel economy because of the weight of the batteries. Add to that a huge amount of ressources needed to build them, high financial cost and a smaller boot and they just don’t add up...
Both cars are bad, buy GM (sarcasm)
Tesla!
👍 Volvo 👎bmw
508 GT is still the best in this class
Whahaha what a Joke, you must be the funniest Guy at your home
Chris B. I know right lol
But they don’t charge while they drive 🤯
Not sure about the BMW, but I know the Volvo can (it's a driving mode, just like fully electric is)
@@JelleSebreghts yes it does. It charges while braking and coasting as a normal hybrid (from Toyota for example).
The BMW at low battery charge behaves very similarly to the corolla hybrid I test drove before buying the 330e, charging from braking and slowing, using battery at low speeds. The speedometer has a blue bar at which speed it will disengage EV mode, at full battery it's @100km/h, near depleted it's at 40, unless you press the pedal harder or you are coasting where it can go even further
@@joseluislopes3956 I see, interesting. But that's still different form being able to charge the battery using the engine (which is what I was referring to for the Volvo)
@@JelleSebreghts BMW can also charge with petrol engine by setting the car in "save" mode, F30 has this also. Although this is less efficient than just driving on pure petrol.
BMW is a premium car, Volvo not!
Says who???
@@michelecarcuro4091 check the quality....interior/exterior
@@herrlich7671 I respect your opinion, but I own both bmw and Volvo. Probably Volvo is even better than BMW.....and if we talk about the performance of these specific cars, they are not even comparable....
@@michelecarcuro4091 I respect your comment but I don't believe that you own a bmw,
because it's not subjective, it's fact!
@@herrlich7671 now i have realized that it is a waste of time to talk with you....
For me bmw is quitter and rides better the volvo has to much tire noise in bmw you don't hear that but this dude says the opposite
ValDrin Mehmeti Depends on the rim size of the Volvos. The best riding ones have the smallest rim option. Most of them now have 19" rims pretty much standard.
Boring new cars
Or just get a Model 3 🤷♀️
Charging issues and lack of superchargers here in UK make it less attractive for many people and even the cheapest Model 3 is still a lot more expensive than lease cost of 330e. You don't want to be in a queue of 15 cars in front of you just to charge your Tesla on public holidays.
Tesla's quality in construction and interior cannot hold a candle to these cars. They're ahead in battery tech but that's about it.
Volvo is so beautiful! Only idiots drive bmw...
Volvo even just because BMW = good chance to be driven by cripple, I don't want to be in BMW family of stupid and ignorant drivers. Volvo = peace, comfort, respect, safety, besides its stylish car
What a disrespect for the BMW to be compared with Volvo... Volvo bankrupted twice. Ones as itself and then as part of Ford. Now as Geely it looks a bit better but still not at that level. And those 388hp are managed with bigger boost, what will dramatically lower the economy and reliability by driving fast. Also the handling doesn't match the power, as said in this video. If you want even faster hybrid car just buy a chip tuning for your BMW
Kmn Dmt You can get remaps for the Volvo too. The Volvo Polestar1 has 619hp and 738tq and it's based off the same motor that is in the S60.
@@willriley1619 yeah by adding another electric motor lol, the engine tuning is the same as s60 polestar. And why are you comparing it to a 150k car, for that price people would rather go for a 911 turbo. Volvo make good engines yes but objectively still far behind the Germans, so pls don't push it
@@syc92 depends what you consider good engines. I'd take a Volvo engine any day over a German engine for reliability. I was trying to show that these T8s have potential. If they only had the aftermarket performance parts available that BMW have
@@willriley1619 this generation of drive e engine so far has been reliable yes, and it is an innovative design no doubt, but in terms of potential people has been tuning it without much success, Volvo themselves has already pushed it to a certain limit if u get the twin charged with polestar software optimization. Whereas B48/58 honestly has tons of potential, granted the piston is not as strong as it should and the cylinders have uneven wearing issue (which shows Volvo's reliable built), but you still cannot deny that B48 has a much greater potential than drive-e especially mounted on a BMW chassis. And no remapping the ecu on both doesn't increase hp by much, Volvo is at its' limit with polestar optimization and B48 might be able to give u an extra 30-40hp with the chance of breaking the piston, not the proper way to tune a car I must say.
@@willriley1619 oh and the limiting factor of the 330e is its gearbox, the 3rd gen zf 8hp used in the car can only take 450nm of torque, BMW mounted their electric motor before the gearbox so they definitely have to detune the engine to not exceed the design limit. So while it is theoretically possible to tune it to 400hp like the t8, the amount of work you need to do is just not worth it, I'll just go for the m340i if that's the case.
The decision is very simple to make. If you want something premium, you buy the BMW. If you prefer Chinese scrap trying to look premium, you go with the Volvo.
I have owned a 2020 Volvo until very recently, so don't tell me I don't know what I'm talking about!
I can say the same bs about bmw , rattles everywhere, the loose value like theres no tomorrow, interior is garbage super dated list goes on I had a few bmw .
I don't get why the old boys of the car industry are putting so much effort into hybrid cars. It's the worst of both worlds; either an electric motor and battery pack towing a combustion engine, gearbox and fuel tank it doesn't need, or a combustion engine, gearbox and fuel tank towing a battery pack and electric motor it doesn't need. Twice the complexity, twice as much to go wrong, twice as much to maintain. Just get a Tesla Model 3! Less cost, lower maintenance, less emissions, less tax, lower running costs, better residuals, better performance and way cooler. These old school manufacturers have been made to look like a bunch of dinosaurs by Tesla!
Because driving full electric isn't an option for all people yet. The world is not ready and the old school manufacturers are still selling 4 times the amount of cars Tesla does.