Ancient Genetics that Still Occur Today: Atavisms Explained

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  • Did you know that traits in animal species can re-appear in a new generation hundreds of years later? These ancient reappearing genetics are called Atavisms, and they can help us understand amazing things about biology and evolution, like how limbs actually grow! Join us for a fascinating new episode of SciShow, hosted by Hank Green.
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  • @MK-dr7dx
    @MK-dr7dx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +458

    The dolphin with hind flippers is weirdly adorable.

  • @Finalzero0000
    @Finalzero0000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +688

    Muscle Hank is an atavism of regular Hank.
    Every once in a while he expresses himself, with many people scratching their heads wondering how and why.

    • @danraahauge3777
      @danraahauge3777 4 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      I think it's an evolutionary adaptation that occurs when there's a niche opening to harvest the energy of making clichkbaity thumbs! XD

    • @DamascoGamer
      @DamascoGamer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Nobody will ever know. You don't ask Muscle Hank for questions. Never.

    • @Leftatalbuquerque
      @Leftatalbuquerque 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@DamascoGamer You don't tug on Superman's cape...

    • @mosquitobight
      @mosquitobight 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      The Incredible Hank

    • @mursuhillo242
      @mursuhillo242 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Hustle Hank on the other hand ditched regular evolution altogether and went for expressive cultural evolution

  • @terrendously
    @terrendously 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1392

    7:40 "It is extremely unusual for a species to regain the ability to have sex after being asexual for so long." that hit hard

    • @syd.a.m
      @syd.a.m 4 ปีที่แล้ว +137

      I felt so attacked.

    • @lemon_the_spider
      @lemon_the_spider 4 ปีที่แล้ว +116

      Haha i came to the comments looking for the fellow asexuals that have been personally attacked

    • @creativedesignation7880
      @creativedesignation7880 4 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      Well, good thing you are individuals and not species, so this does not apply to you.

    • @JellyAntz
      @JellyAntz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      oMg i mAdE iT 69 LikEs ahhhhh also ya that can hit hard but im straight not asexual so i cant relate ig like loving after not loving

    • @conlon4332
      @conlon4332 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Who made it 70???

  • @kvthe2nd903
    @kvthe2nd903 4 ปีที่แล้ว +761

    Hmmm hind leg genes... What to name it... HAND2!

    • @BurnedSoap
      @BurnedSoap 4 ปีที่แล้ว +95

      Foot?
      Nah. *HAND 2*

    • @luissemedo3597
      @luissemedo3597 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Makes sense if you are a non-human primate

    • @twincast2005
      @twincast2005 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Well, it _is_ also responsible for forelegs/arms, but yeah, that's funny.

    • @kindlin
      @kindlin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I figured Hand1 was for the front limbs/hands. Probably wrong tho.

    • @danielawesome36
      @danielawesome36 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      I can't believe they actually named those HAND2.
      Like, who are the scientists that did it? I'd like to have a chat with them.
      For scientific purposes, of course.

  • @rainbow_vader
    @rainbow_vader 4 ปีที่แล้ว +708

    Fish: *climbs out of water and starts to live on land*
    Whales: uno reverse

    • @rogeriopenna9014
      @rogeriopenna9014 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      not only whales, but plenty of reptiles from the Jurassic and Cretaceous. Probably triassic too.

    • @rainbow_vader
      @rainbow_vader 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@rogeriopenna9014 Ah yes forgot about ichthyosaurs

    • @rickkwitkoski1976
      @rickkwitkoski1976 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@rainbow_vader And turtles/tortoises/terrapins... this reversal probably happened a few times in the Order Testudines.

    • @tanstermonster5289
      @tanstermonster5289 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lmao

    • @noellesato311
      @noellesato311 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Smooth Brain: Return to Monke
      Wrinkle Brain: Return to Fishe

  • @robertcrabtree8835
    @robertcrabtree8835 4 ปีที่แล้ว +250

    Love how a species named Osedax priapus (Priapus was a Greek/Roman god of fertility, and particularly, male genitals and was depicted with giant phallus on the regular) is a kind of bone worm.

    • @ixchelssong
      @ixchelssong 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I'm pretty sure the species was named after the god. 😊

    • @thederp9309
      @thederp9309 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I’m pretty when he said “a species named Osedax priapus” he meant that he loved that it was named that and was referring to how it was named in relation to the god and not the time, he’s not saying the species named the god just that the name of the species is Osedax priapus. Just for anyone confused

    • @ishankumawat3306
      @ishankumawat3306 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@thederp9309 bro you confused me

    • @HayTatsuko
      @HayTatsuko ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Struck me immediately how entirely (in?)appropriate, clever, and hilarious this specific name truly is!

    • @fadedlight420
      @fadedlight420 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And Osedax comes from Latin, ōs ("bone") + edāx (devourer). So the name literally means Bone Devourer Wiener God.

  • @drsharkboy6568
    @drsharkboy6568 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2025

    Hank: 8:29 “Bone or zombie worms.”
    My brain and ears: “BONER-zombie worms!”

    • @kalechapo
      @kalechapo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +96

      Literally same lol, I was checking to see if anyone else noticed 😂

    • @BertGrink
      @BertGrink 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@kalechapo Same here haha

    • @mrbobinski
      @mrbobinski 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Yes. Boner zombies!

    • @twocvbloke
      @twocvbloke 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Yep, heard that too... :P

    • @LPNurja
      @LPNurja 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Wait. He didn't actually say that?? Oh...

  • @Je.rone_
    @Je.rone_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +219

    Well the pre-human primates had traits that made them relatively pretty stupid, I've met a couple people, myself included, who brought that trait back stronger than ever

  • @powergannon
    @powergannon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    That example of the snails that keep their coiled shells into adulthood reminds of of axolotl salamanders which never progress to an adult stage, so they have gills all their life.

    • @chloesibilla8199
      @chloesibilla8199 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah I love axolotls !! I think that's called neonatalism or something

    • @jeffs1571
      @jeffs1571 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@chloesibilla8199 neotony

    • @weedmantrudeau5783
      @weedmantrudeau5783 ปีที่แล้ว

      they evolve from trade probably

    • @chloesibilla8199
      @chloesibilla8199 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jeffs1571 thank you!!

    • @chloesibilla8199
      @chloesibilla8199 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@weedmantrudeau5783 what does this mean?

  • @giordanobruno1333
    @giordanobruno1333 4 ปีที่แล้ว +115

    Scishow: “Gentle Giants of the Sea”
    Orca: “Hey! I’m swimming here!”

    • @GotPotatoes24
      @GotPotatoes24 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Orcas are the New Yorkers of the sea... New Yorcas, if you will.

    • @luisch1708
      @luisch1708 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Orcas are more closely related to dolphins than whales, though, even though their name suggests otherwise.

    • @woodfur00
      @woodfur00 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Swat Me Dolphins are a subset of whales, so the name isn't wrong.

    • @NabPunk
      @NabPunk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@woodfur00 Not really, the group as a whole is called Cetacea, whales and porpoises are mutually exclusive subsets of the set Cetacea.

    • @ussarng4649
      @ussarng4649 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Orcas aren't whales.

  • @ananyaravikumar5069
    @ananyaravikumar5069 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    This is fascinating, and I think it’s safe to say I would never have looked this up myself, even if I knew what I was looking for. Thanks SciShow for making me love our weird and wonderful world even more!

  • @1st1anarkissed
    @1st1anarkissed 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    "left around wasting genetic space" makes me think of "left around wasting hard drive space" which leaves me wondering, when we learn to code like RNA can code, will we discover that "a little bit of space" is NBD in terms of DNA's ability to hold code? I still remember when a gigabyte was theoretical and a postage stamp was only a postage stamp, not your family's entire video and slide catalog from the 20th century.

    • @spindash64
      @spindash64 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Probably, although DNA is Quaternary rather than Binary like computers, so that helps significantly already. 10 2 bits is equal to 5 4 bits in total storable values

    • @ixchelssong
      @ixchelssong 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I had the thought, while he was talking, 1st: The genes didn't "decide" anything, and 2nd: Our genes already contain a bunch of "junk DNA," so what genetic cost would there be for just a little more?

    • @devinnall2284
      @devinnall2284 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well it's not like they can just drag the useless DNA into the 🗑 to clear up space

    • @Guru_1092
      @Guru_1092 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ixchelssong Approximately 8% of the average human's DNA is the remnants of ancient retroviral infection of human reproductive cells.
      So clearly, not a whole lot.

    • @RedRocket4000
      @RedRocket4000 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ixchelssong Vast majority of the genes is junk. Which is why the One Percent DNA difference between Humans and Chimps and Bonobo is an exaggeration the difference is way greater if you don't count the Junk that is identical.

  • @samuelmatheson9655
    @samuelmatheson9655 4 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    Hippo: *Will murder u on sight*
    Whale: "I am a gentle beast of the sea human, I will protect u from shark, even though you ate my ancestors"

    • @werul
      @werul ปีที่แล้ว

      When did humans eat whale ancestors?? Didn't they already evolve to spend their whole lives in the ocean millions of years ago?

  • @blankface_
    @blankface_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +196

    Just remember that animals don't exactly choose the way they evolve, though much of the language of evolution gives that implication

    • @lonestarr1490
      @lonestarr1490 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Language always gives misleading implications. That cannot be helped, it's an imperfect system.

    • @colleenforrest7936
      @colleenforrest7936 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Unless you're a peacock.
      But yeah, I agree with you. The language of genetics drives me nuts sometimes. Genes don't "want" anything. The are not sentient demi-gods.

    • @cyansloth1763
      @cyansloth1763 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      The GenetiGods do not like your dismissal!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @Weirdisjustabrownandyellowword
      @Weirdisjustabrownandyellowword 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@colleenforrest7936Are you referring to sexual selection of male tail feathers? Sexual selection is the one part of natural selection the animals have some control over, but there are other factors that narrow down the individuals within the population who can reproduce. Besides, they're just choosing what they're attracted to, without having an understanding of evolution and a vision for the future evolution of their species. Also you could argue that such a large part of what an animal finds attractive is determined by their own genetics that they aren't really choosing anyway.
      If you could choose how your descendents evolve, how would they evolve?

  • @notareallin620
    @notareallin620 4 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    I brought this up 6 years ago in my biology class once. And everyone looked at me like "what you talkin bout?"

    • @ancientswordrage
      @ancientswordrage 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's awesome

    • @donaldbaird7849
      @donaldbaird7849 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@AxxLAfriku pls stop

    • @TragoudistrosMPH
      @TragoudistrosMPH 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      your classmates had atavistically small brains? :P

    • @notareallin620
      @notareallin620 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@TragoudistrosMPH Erm. Not too sure. They have their own strenghts I guess.
      In school, the main point was to pass the class and get good grades on exams, so we were taught what was in our text books. The bare minimum.
      Not everyone was interested in learning new things, or reading for the matter. I just happened to be one of the weird ones who did.

    • @chanbricks4461
      @chanbricks4461 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@notareallin620 That's the exact problem with the current education system. Students are taught what they were told to, nothing else. There's also heavy emphasis on math, science, language subjects, but a lack of attention towards other more creative or art driven subjects. The combination of these aspects creates students that hate extra learning, seeing it as unnecessary and pointless.

  • @lupostales7968
    @lupostales7968 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I've read that the "leg-genus" is also still present in snakes and can cause some to be born with teeny tiny stumbs ... nature is frickin' awesome !
    Just imagine snakes with long legs ... cool and terrifying at the same time ! 🐍🐉

    • @purpleghost106
      @purpleghost106 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I mean, monitor lizards exist, and they're not particularly snake-like, but reptilian and pretty fascinating/terrifying, so I can kinda picture it.

    • @josephburchanowski4636
      @josephburchanowski4636 ปีที่แล้ว

      So house centipedes just gigantic and scalier?

    • @lupostales7968
      @lupostales7968 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@josephburchanowski4636 I mean, there were giant centipedes in prehistoric times, so maybe it would still be possible for insects and other small animals to become that big again ... maybe if the oxygen supply in the air gets higher again ! 🤷🏻‍♀️🤔

    • @amazinggrace5692
      @amazinggrace5692 ปีที่แล้ว

      But god condemned the snake to be on its belly, so reverse god move? Yikes!

    • @DrachenGothik666
      @DrachenGothik666 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@amazinggrace5692 "God" did no such thing, 'cuz god doesn't exist. Snakes evolved to have no legs to fit into an ecological niche, not 'cuz some imaginary friend 'cursed' them. There's a clear progression from lizard to snake where limbs get progressively smaller. Legless lizards or skinks: one has no legs, the other has a long, snake like body with tiny legs. Mexican Mole lizard: long, snaky body, tiny front limbs, no back legs at all. These animals aren't directly in the snake lineage, but they are examples of species that are evolving into snake-like forms. Your imaginary friend had no part in this.

  • @Finalzero0000
    @Finalzero0000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    08:29
    For a moment I had to ask my self "Wait, what kind of Zombie worms?!" 🤔

    • @PaintedCz
      @PaintedCz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Absolutely heard "boner zombie" worms. LOL

    • @andrewdarlington238
      @andrewdarlington238 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I had to rewind on that also lol Haha. Probably listened to it 10 times wondering how they thought that sounded ok lol Haha. :D

  • @saddieahsan
    @saddieahsan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +170

    This is why some humans are born with a tail.

    • @copypaste3526
      @copypaste3526 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Atavism my ass!

    • @yannismorris4772
      @yannismorris4772 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@copypaste3526 *(applause)*

    • @pvic6959
      @pvic6959 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      wat

    • @ADerpyReality
      @ADerpyReality 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Chimps or monkeys? That is the question. Both lemur and chimps are strong and intelligent.

    • @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
      @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      But I have not seen any cases of humans being born with ape like jaws and sculls. I guess the head is more importnat.

  • @timmcdaniel6193
    @timmcdaniel6193 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    11:50 "a fluke appearance" ... I see what you did there.
    (Returning hindlimbs in an aquatic animal.)

    • @likebot.
      @likebot. 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Came to make that observation... I see you're the first of two already.

  • @pxn748
    @pxn748 4 ปีที่แล้ว +199

    Sometimes humans are born with a tail!

    • @shadowsonicsilver6
      @shadowsonicsilver6 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Sun Wu Kong that you?

    • @marxtheenigma873
      @marxtheenigma873 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Not a tail. There are no bones in it. Just an extra lump of flesh.

    • @jaroslavsvaha6065
      @jaroslavsvaha6065 4 ปีที่แล้ว +92

      Spend any amount of time on internet, and you'll discover that sometimes humans are born without a brain.

    • @search895
      @search895 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      @@jaroslavsvaha6065 Some humans are actually born with a brain. Is hard to believe but it happens to be some cases.

    • @1everydayperson
      @1everydayperson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Pxn it a vestigial tail meaning it is absolutely useless and doesn't even look like a normal tail.

  • @BaalFridge
    @BaalFridge 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I learned about atavism in yu yu hakusho. Good ol' weeb years paid off.

    • @EldestZelot
      @EldestZelot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I learned about it in psychology, specifically Lombroso's research.

    • @TheBlkKat
      @TheBlkKat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I came to the comments looking for this reference. :)

    • @World_Theory
      @World_Theory 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same.

    • @monhunterz5430
      @monhunterz5430 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What does a series about a spirit detective have to do with creatures evolving old traits again?

    • @World_Theory
      @World_Theory 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      SPOILERS!
      The main character dies at one point, but comes back alive due to some bizarre weirdness involving spirit energy. But instead of coming back as a human, he comes back as a demon, because one of his human ancestors from many generations back, had children with a demon. And he met some activation conditions by accident for those traits through lots of training. *_shifty eyes_* It might not be especially realistic, but the word "atavism" was specifically used in the explanation.

  • @gabrielladias420
    @gabrielladias420 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is one of the most fascinating vids I've seen in this channel (and that's saying something!)

  • @thegrassisbluer09
    @thegrassisbluer09 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's amazing that you're still here making great content, you deserve some kind of internet creator lifetime achievement award (if you don't have one or fifty already). I first found your work some time ago and there's nothing that's missed the mark. I can't remember where or how I originally found you, but I definitely remember listening to Dowdy Smack at some point. Is there anywhere I could find C'est Bon Ça to relive a bygone time?

  • @DeclanMBrennan
    @DeclanMBrennan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That was absolutely fascinating. I'm sure what was shown was just the tip of a very big research iceberg. Thanks SciShow team for doing all that work for us.

  • @samiamrg7
    @samiamrg7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fun etymology fact: the word “Parthenogenisis” comes from the Greek word for “virgin,” and is often associated with the goddess Athena. Athena was not only a virgin goddess, but was also concieved and “birthed” by Zeus alone (being formed from Zeus’ thoughts as a sort of receptecle for the vast wisdom he obtained after becoming ruler of the cosmos).
    (Athena’s association with virginity is also why her greatest temple was named the “Parthenon).”

  • @cgarzs
    @cgarzs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    8:30 Actual: "Taken to calling them bone or zombie worms"
    Sounds like: "Taken to calling them boner zombie worms"

  • @mitchy3991
    @mitchy3991 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Have you done a video on aphids?
    They reproduce through parthenogenesis and have a pretty odd life-cycle.
    They also get farmed like cattle by ants for their secretions...

  • @tiltedsun2786
    @tiltedsun2786 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am so happy there are scientists that care about snail shell characteristics

  • @daviddavis4885
    @daviddavis4885 4 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    I’d love to see a video on the opposite of this: Traits that emerged but then lost

    • @TazPessle
      @TazPessle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Or traits that commonly emerge with no precedent that are never kept; the real messy noise of evolution. Like sixth digits and so on.

    • @bobman929
      @bobman929 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They have done vids on lost traits

    • @siyacer
      @siyacer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Vitamin C production in humans, for example.

    • @cybeermancom1
      @cybeermancom1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the genes for legs appeared somewhere in the lineage and almost got lost
      for whales too

    • @anonymouswhite7957
      @anonymouswhite7957 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Idk if it’s the reverse per se but there is vestigiality. Where a trait no longer serves their purpose and is on their way to disappearance. To mention a few:
      - Halteres in insects, which is nubs (protrusion) that used to be wings
      - Wisdom teeth in humans, many recent generations have lost them completely
      - Small non functional eyes in many cave animals
      - Pelvic bone in snakes
      And many more..
      As for the one that have been lost completely, geomagnetic sense is something that humans no longer have .-.

  • @rudresh10000
    @rudresh10000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Atavism of the Mazoku. I Can't believe Anime has taught me so much stuff.

    • @MuscarV2
      @MuscarV2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So you knew what the word meant before? Or just knew the word and not actually what it really meant, therefore not being taught anything.

    • @T0YCHEST
      @T0YCHEST 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Marcus Lindgren got him

    • @dynamicworlds1
      @dynamicworlds1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@MuscarV2 actually, no, it was used in a way that the meaning could be learned through context clues.
      Even if all it did was them curious enough to look up the word, that's still a good thing.
      You think disparaging things that get people curious enough to learn makes you look more intelligent? (It doesn't)

    • @AuntBibby
      @AuntBibby 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Regular Old Plumbus S-SH-SHOTS _FIRED_

  • @quinnalexander3825
    @quinnalexander3825 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    HEY HEY!!! 3:24 Mysticeti did NOT just skip right along from Ambulocetus >:D Don't forget the INCREDIBLE evolutionary history of whales all between those two. Dorudon is one of my favorites.

  • @Nonunusmultorum
    @Nonunusmultorum 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I know this wasn't how it was intended to be said, but "BONER ZOMBIE WORMS" is both a cool band name and a terrifying ailment to think about

  • @bernardedwards8461
    @bernardedwards8461 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've noticed that nestlings of a few birds have a digit and claw still protuding from their wing pinions, but the only one that retains it into adulthood and can use it with two more for climbing is the Hoatzin of S.America. in the vast majority of birds, the digits that were there in Archaeopteryx have become fused into the skeleton of the wing. Have there in recent times ever been young birds with teeth like Archaeopteryx? Large pythons routinely have vestigial hind legs, usually limited to a few digits with claws..

    • @bernardedwards8461
      @bernardedwards8461 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Mark Aspen Modern birds are not born quadrupedal, but their ancient ancestors were. This is why some modern birds have claws on their wings.

  • @MaryAnnNytowl
    @MaryAnnNytowl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks, Hank and crew, for another fascinating video!

  • @marijandesin8226
    @marijandesin8226 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What's hard to imagine? Even bugs get bored after 20milion years.

  • @highfive7689
    @highfive7689 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wonderful show! First time watching, and enjoyed it. I was wondering if most of these ancestral genes are pseudogenes? I was also wondering about the role of viral infestation may cause in the activation of Atavisms. Like Zika virus attacks the fetus and effects the development. There may be viruses that may reactivate these genes creating evolutionary effect that lead to Atavisms. Any information on this in your studies?

  • @alicecuriosityoftenleadsto6288
    @alicecuriosityoftenleadsto6288 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Changes always seem to have multiple causes, I think we spend way too much energy wondering 'which thing' caused something to happen when the answer is almost always 'all the things happening together'

    • @maxblast8210
      @maxblast8210 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Alice spitting straight facts here.

  • @katieb8752
    @katieb8752 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Is that how some humans are born with tails?

    • @sophierobinson2738
      @sophierobinson2738 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Katie B Yes. But they're not much use.

    • @budd2nd
      @budd2nd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Katie B
      Yeah, it must be.

    • @madtabby66
      @madtabby66 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pretty much.

  • @VGAstudent
    @VGAstudent 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It may also be important to recognize atavisms that may exist epigenetically through the expression of temperature sensitive enzymes and proteins that stop producing some hand2 similar genes in an adult: warmer temperatures globally may cause a shift in the species, because the reduction of global temperature sensitive genes is being reduced with warmer winters. In other words, the expression of legs, may be a result of global species wide gene changes that indicate a beneficial global change that would allow for the re-introduction of fully grown legs.
    The archeological record shows warmer temperatures, and the gene records of the entire species may also show the same traits with the expression of wings or legs in larger herbivores when the availability of food goes way up because of global tropical weather ranges. I can't speak about this from research, but I'd think that nature would work with an entire species this way as easily as an individual.

  • @h7opolo
    @h7opolo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    8:30 dude, pause for slightly longer after the word "bone" and before the word "or" to avoid sounding like you're saying the word "boner". lol

    • @h7opolo
      @h7opolo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      lol "boner, zombie worms with sexual dimorphism" sounds like a freaky parasite.

    • @WormholeJim
      @WormholeJim 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      A boner zombie worm. It's a .. i don't know exactly. Mental images does not compute.

  • @victrosia
    @victrosia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I actually have a coiled limpet shell! When I was little I played with it and called it the volcano shell.

  • @frankdantuono2594
    @frankdantuono2594 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    GREAT EPISODE!!

  • @johnorsomeone4609
    @johnorsomeone4609 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As apes, we once had tails but lost them. I want mine back and I want it prehensile. This is non-negotiable. I just need new pants.

  • @timberwolfdtproductions3890
    @timberwolfdtproductions3890 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fascinating. I think Darwin would be impressed with how much progress has been made in the field of genetics, but humbled by how much is yet to be learned.

    • @Backinblackbunny009
      @Backinblackbunny009 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mostly he'd just be horrified by how our leaders are letting the natural world and all its lifeforms be destroyed in pursuit of eternal quarterly profits. Darwin understood the value of life

    • @timberwolfdtproductions3890
      @timberwolfdtproductions3890 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Backinblackbunny009 👍

  • @andrewdarlington238
    @andrewdarlington238 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "BOOOner... Zombie worms"... definitely listened to that like 15 times wondering how they didn't catch the way that sounded during edit lol. I am soooooo glad they missed it haha I needed a good laugh lol. :D

    • @maxblast8210
      @maxblast8210 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bold of you to assume that they didn't catch it.

  • @dmac1465
    @dmac1465 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was one of the best written episodes of Sccie show I've ever seen.

  • @gastonjaillet9512
    @gastonjaillet9512 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I what hoping you would make a video about Atavisms for a long time. Finally!
    I'm totally for a second one !

  • @MattAndImprov
    @MattAndImprov 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I really dislike when playing around evolution seems to imply cognitive choice, rather than proliferation of a beneficial trait.

    • @madtabby66
      @madtabby66 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      So true.
      A trait shows up. If it's useful, the animal thrives and reproduces. If it's not useful, you either dont make it to breeding age, or you're rejected as a mate.
      But we are arrogant bald monkeys who think we control a heck of a lot more than we actually do.

    • @meghanachauhan9380
      @meghanachauhan9380 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@madtabby66 it's really more like biochemistry really. Thinks of them not as organisms but chemical machines and you'll see evolution is really just a chemical game

    • @madtabby66
      @madtabby66 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@meghanachauhan9380 meh, I'm a dog breeder. We study blood lines, research back a minimum of 5 generations. Look at previous litters produced (if any) and still end up with a "where the hell did that come from" pup. Or we get a pair we think would be perfect, and they have no interest in each other.
      We're playing with 76 sided dice and hoping to win.

    • @druid_zephyrus
      @druid_zephyrus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@madtabby66 Not only are we arrogant bald *apes, but we also have an innate need and desire to categorize into helpful and unhelpful.

    • @druid_zephyrus
      @druid_zephyrus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@meghanachauhan9380 I lost the game.

  • @robynalice879
    @robynalice879 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wait... So if Ativism causes snails to recoil due to the activity of a coiling gene prior to adulthood, would that also mean there's a likelihood of Ativism being the cause of medical conditions like Dwarfism? I.e. the skeletal dysplasia specifically?

  • @blankface_
    @blankface_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    8:29 is what I wake up with

  • @ACertainJustice
    @ACertainJustice 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the coolest topics I’ve seen in a while. I’m fascinated and need to go read up on it more.

  • @barccy
    @barccy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Everything about a creature can be traced back to the expression of its genes." Based.

  • @beansnrice321
    @beansnrice321 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    "Heh heh heh heh heh heh. Bone worm."
    -Beavis

  • @ghostagent3552
    @ghostagent3552 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Annnd because of the mechanics of atavism, humans can sometimes be born with a tail if the development of the taol wasn't switched off.

  • @paulawolanski3237
    @paulawolanski3237 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I remember when I first learned that whales have very small leg bones sticking out of their pelvis, my mind was just blown

  • @ngantnier
    @ngantnier ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had a bristlenose plecostomus randomly be born with legs instead of pectoral fins. She even walked instead of swimming along the glass. Unfortunately she died in a tank accident. I would have loved to see where that was going.

    • @user-gn4ts8jb7n
      @user-gn4ts8jb7n ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you have any way that I could see it? That sounds super cool!

  • @tentavision13
    @tentavision13 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    7:03
    You're telling me there are 1,000 species of soil mites? Damn

    • @demonflowerchild
      @demonflowerchild 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm a lil tired and read that as 1000 soul mates. Lol

  • @waterunderthebridge7950
    @waterunderthebridge7950 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I feel like if you compare the genetic code to computing systems, most of the more frequently seen atavisms are more like recovering an instruction to paste a certain process at a different place rather than recovering an entire database that was lost (e.g. having multiple nipples (where your body knows how a “nipple” is constructed) or an extended spine/tail (where your body already knows how to make vertebrae) etc.)

  • @paytonpryor
    @paytonpryor ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I actually have several Atavisms. I was born able to climb using my toes. I can climb like a monkey with my feet instead of using just my upper body strength. I was also born with extra teeth.

  • @-cookiezila-461
    @-cookiezila-461 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hank: Gentle giants of the sea
    Sperm Whales:

  • @pedroarjona6996
    @pedroarjona6996 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The orcas want to talk about the "gentle giant of the sea" part.
    I recommend Sci Show crew that the conversation is conducted by phone.

  • @TazPessle
    @TazPessle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    To me seeing atavisms makes just as much sense as seeing future traits yet-to-be-selected-for. The future-beneficial gene(s) don't exist in any meaningful density before selection and yet we see extra digits that aren't selected for (as an example). To me it then seems actuallly more likely to get a throwback; we've never had a functional sixth digit but whales have had functional hind limbs; their genes have definitely had that capability; a vestigial form of a functional element should be more common than a vestigial non-functional element. Throwbacks then should be less alarming unless there is a strong selection against them... Or am i missing something?

    • @RedRocket4000
      @RedRocket4000 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are humans with functioning fully sixth digit it not too hard they work the same way the other digits work. This fully functioning sixth digit is he rare for of it the most common has no bone in it and thus removed as soon as possible.
      And some cats have a working although way too short thumb in effect on both front and rear paws separate from the other digits on the side lower in. Seen them on and used by the Hemingway cats at Key West. In my case to pick up and run off with a piece of paper on the other three legs grasping the paper with one paw. Guides told us they can turn nobs and other hand like tricks with them making securing things much more difficult than with normal cats. I imagine given time the thumb digit will get longer and bigger and they probably lose one of the others as the primate five work good.

  • @vashtirebong7697
    @vashtirebong7697 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Am I the only one who plays scishow videos to eventually fall asleep? Its like asmr to me. 😣😴

  • @TragoudistrosMPH
    @TragoudistrosMPH 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    8:04 I've never bought the idea that storing genes is wasteful... because genetic mutation is random, and waste requires a detriment on a case by case basis, rather than in principle... at least that's my hypothesis.
    Having options might or might not hurt.

    • @cortster12
      @cortster12 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Genetic mutation is random, but natural selection is not. That's the variable you've looked over.

    • @TragoudistrosMPH
      @TragoudistrosMPH 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cortster12 natural selection is a variable with 3 outcomes 'Positive, Negative, or Neutral'
      That's why I say might or might not hurt.
      What proof is there that having additional genes hurts an organism? Are there any examples?
      Remember that some organisms have obscene numbers of genes (randomly looked up) Paris Japonica has a genome 50x larger than the human genome. Is the plant suffering for it?

    • @TragoudistrosMPH
      @TragoudistrosMPH 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Bazagi Derp I agree that it's potentially true, and such a cost should be measurable.
      A benefit is more genes means more chances for mutation/diversity. If all you genes are essential, you can't afford mutation.
      Some organisms have 10,20,50 or 1/4 of the genes that we do. Is there evidence that extra genes are a bad thing? :)

  • @storyspren
    @storyspren 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn, when you said "not just two or three" I was expecting dozens.

  • @OrbeezRando
    @OrbeezRando 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hank, You are my Fav science communicator.

  • @tinamclaughlin1991
    @tinamclaughlin1991 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow! That's facinating, as all your content is!

  • @timothymoore8549
    @timothymoore8549 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I’d really like to see a creationist explain a whale with legs

    • @rickkwitkoski1976
      @rickkwitkoski1976 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      "miracles" they "happen"

    • @think-islam-channel
      @think-islam-channel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or an evolutionist

    • @cleverusernamenexttime2779
      @cleverusernamenexttime2779 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They are there to test your faith.

    • @butterflypaint4332
      @butterflypaint4332 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I used to be a non evolutionary creationist. they would often say that because they sometimes help the whale when reproducing (not sure if thats true) they aren't technically "vestigial" bc they have a use. 🤷

    • @faiaflrt
      @faiaflrt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      God creates through evolution. There you go.

  • @confus.d
    @confus.d 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you channel members! I really love this channel but cant support it cause I'm still 14 and living with my parents. Tysm!

  • @danielhaywood641
    @danielhaywood641 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    10:00 "eating egg and pumping out sperm" - life goals.

  • @Beardwhip
    @Beardwhip 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ativan-isms: 4 great ideas that I had but forgot

  • @sagacious03
    @sagacious03 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating! Thanks for uploading!

  • @ismaileltorky242
    @ismaileltorky242 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of my fav vids about evolution Imo nice work.

  • @MissKatAttackOfficial
    @MissKatAttackOfficial 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I thought it said “whale eggs” and I was very confused

    • @cortster12
      @cortster12 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nigelmarvin1387
      Still ovaries and eggs, yeah. Ovaries with egg cells are pretty damn universal across the animal kingdom.

    • @jaschabull2365
      @jaschabull2365 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Imagine a mammal reverting to oviparity o_0

  • @DeRien8
    @DeRien8 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The words were small enough in the thumbnail on my phone that I thought the text said "Whale Lebsy!" Made me snicker.

  • @vashsunglasses
    @vashsunglasses ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh cool, I found a bunch of limpet shells when I went to Hawaii and I'd just assumed they were some sort of bivalve shells but now that I look at them there's no hinge or anything!

  • @Slartibartfass13
    @Slartibartfass13 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ha, nice to see the inat credits on the pictures. Good to see "our" work actually being used :D

  • @kaninma7237
    @kaninma7237 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do not forget about the incredible number of atavisms present in the incredible Mr. Limpet. Thanks, Don. Sheriff Taylor would be proud.

  • @toniatchison3678
    @toniatchison3678 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another fascinating video. Thank you!

  • @Speak_Out_and_Remove_All_Doubt
    @Speak_Out_and_Remove_All_Doubt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Well I never thought I would have something in common with a soil mite but I went from having sex, then got married and stopped having sex, then got divorced and started having sex again!

    • @danraahauge3777
      @danraahauge3777 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Others react very differently to divorces, though, but I would say it turned out beautifully for you though! I found your comment really uplifting, wholesome, and cute!

    • @katiobrien7854
      @katiobrien7854 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂😂😂😂

    • @rickkwitkoski1976
      @rickkwitkoski1976 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @semaj_5022
    @semaj_5022 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was super fascinating thank you!

  • @Pratanjali64
    @Pratanjali64 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dang you guys are always on point. Really interesting stuff!

  • @CoconutJewce
    @CoconutJewce 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Atavism is a very pleasant-sounding word. I like it.

  • @frankksong
    @frankksong 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    1970: we will have flying cars in the future
    2020: h a n d 2

    • @rustywells8756
      @rustywells8756 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      We will have Samson switchblade flying cars (3 wheeled) soon. I'm number 80 in the queue.

  • @suleymansuzen5543
    @suleymansuzen5543 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Perfect videos but please put photos and videos of the things you mentioneddd, most of the time I stop video and go to google it...

  • @Aragorn7884
    @Aragorn7884 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Is "common sense" considered an atavism? 😏😉

    • @baranorak4080
      @baranorak4080 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Unfortunately that has never returned...

    • @baref1959
      @baref1959 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      one hopes that at some undefined point in time? it will return

    • @zeratulrus142
      @zeratulrus142 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@baranorak4080 Unfortunately, people using common sense as an argument have never really gone away

    • @Aragorn7884
      @Aragorn7884 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@zeratulrus142 *George Carlin:* _"Never underestimate the stupidity of society."_

  • @blacktimhoward4322
    @blacktimhoward4322 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Me, remembering life in 2009: Like racism?

  • @dustinfisher29
    @dustinfisher29 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had extra fangs when I was young and the dentist back then removed them to fit in the damn braces.... Now I kinda wish I still have them

  • @wustenfuchsgaming1226
    @wustenfuchsgaming1226 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    We all carry so many Genes that arent used for one reason or another, interesting to kick them up once in a While.

  • @tuxuhds6955
    @tuxuhds6955 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can we give a moment for this gloriously picked shirt with its atavistic buttons that has no pockets?
    That Dollo law went the way of the Dodo.

  • @zarinawillows2347
    @zarinawillows2347 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We were just studying this in our "online" classes 😯😲😯

  • @andromedazeze6764
    @andromedazeze6764 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the band, especially the lead guitarist.

  • @Technocolor00
    @Technocolor00 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    8:55 now thats something I haven't seen a furry vore artist do
    yet

  • @mulgerbill
    @mulgerbill 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I need to see a collab of Hank and Kevin of VSauce2 freestyling!

  • @lukaslambs5780
    @lukaslambs5780 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My favorite atavism is chickens having teeth like their dinosaur ancestors.

  • @positionthepositron
    @positionthepositron 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "...sherk the requirement for maternal yolk all together" well played

  • @DAVIDPETERS12C
    @DAVIDPETERS12C 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The human non-prehensile big toe is another atavism, arising from a long line of prehensile relatives: apes, lemurs, tree shrews, didelphid marsupials, all the way back to tiny basal egg-laying mammals and cynodonts, where it is not prehensile.

  • @darklessian
    @darklessian 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whoever named Osedax Priapus was having a cheeky go at it

  • @nikkicedrone9311
    @nikkicedrone9311 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    9:50 Human males, too, are usually small enough to fit inside their mates.

    • @raptorzilla0710
      @raptorzilla0710 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dunno, if I (a man) should agree be offended, laugh or all of the above.

  • @rishikaushik8307
    @rishikaushik8307 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    8:42.... Actually, that makes it a reverse harem