Harder & Steenbeck's NEWEST Airbrush! The ULTRA 2024 Review
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- This video is a detailed and comprehensive review of the Harder and Steenbeck Ultra 2024 equipped with a .45 mm needle/nozzle. This is one of Harder and Steenbeck newest models and in my opinion one of their best airbrushes so far. Within this buyer's guide we are looking at all the pros and cons of the ultra 2024. Thanks for watching!
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H&S made a tool that increased thier market share. It really seems like almost anyone could use and maintain this brush, regardless of experience level.
You rock
Bought this airbrush from local shop in Poland about 108-110$, love it so much. For me the same issue- not enough space for finger between cup and trigger and during longer sessions my finger gets tired due to spring tension, I'm making a scale models so fine lines, small painting, pre-shading everything is possible with this AB despite thw needle is 0.45. My younger brother tried Ultra2024 and now it is his main AB, he is only 10, was difficult for him to operate the trigger so I swapped the spring to another one with lower tension (not all springs put trigger to its neutral position, so it was a challenge to get the right one). Before H&S Ultra 2024 we've used GSI Creos 270, 289, 290, Fengda bd130 and H&S Evo CR+ so the tension in this AB was something unusual for us, also want to mention it is very good when needle is fully covered with needle cap so almost no dent, he can put AB on paper and make straight lines ( the better part of his paintings are large ships). To summarise we are happy to have this AB😄😄😄
please what spring did you choose as replacement?
@@omichalek I had one in my stash, looks like identical but the coils of the spring are a little thinner, i think it is possible to find proper spring in clock repair shop. Choose the right one so it will put trigger to its neutral position with no issues and at the same time will be easy to use for your finger.
@omichalek You can try a coil spring out of automatic ballpoint pen. If it too stiff just shorten it a little with side cutter.
Great video! Thanks
Thanks for the review. I ordered one! I spray Fiber Reactive dyes on my wood turning projects, and cannot wait to try this one out.
Got mine today 🎉 can’t believe how good this brush is. Thanks for the great review.
I just received mine today. Can’t wait to get to painting with it tomorrow. I’m a model car builder so I’m so happy to get this airbrush
Great weight distribution, feel and spray. Got mine yesterday and did a couple of things to test it out and like it better than my other HS which cost twice as much.
Great review, i know the effort the factory has put into these new models and it's nice to hear that people can see it and appreciate it. Have you tried the new Evolution? it has similar trigger improvements and is much more responsive than the previous model.
I love listening to your airbrush reviews. Looking forward to your next video. Brother, your a great ambassador for the airbrush hobby. I only wish more people could enjoy this hobby too.
appreciate that- thanks so much man
Very good review. I'm very tempted to get such a high quality airbrush.
I may have to add one of these to my arsenal. Great stuff
I needed to as well! Same for their new evolution which I'm still waiting on. I hope the evo sprays like this one- we'll soon find out!
Love your channel. I have watched a lot of your reviews. I build and paint sale models and diagrams. I gave the infinity a try a few years ago and struggled with it. My iwata hc cs is easy brush to use. I just found about the H&S trigger hack so waiting on parts. I just pulled the trigger on a Blair low rider custom micron Takumi and just ordered the black chrome H&S evolution. The brush has been completely redesigned they addressed the trigger issue. So I’m getting two new extremely great airbrushes. Thanks for your great reviews.
Congrats on the new Takumi!! I just love mine. I've also ordered the new evo- it is awesome. Thank you very much for the kind words!
Model painter here, thanks for the love and great channel you have here. I have purchased a few airbrush based on your detailed reviews and recommendations.
glad to hear that- thanks so much!
Just got mine last night, took almost 3 weeks to get it.. Cant wait to try it out this weekend.
I've been waiting about 3 weeks for the new evolution as well. Hope it comes soon!
Thank you for the review! I was considering the EVOLUTION CR Plus 2024, the new upgrades they came up with, the closer needle seal and the 2 cup sizes, not to mention that I can get two nozzle sizes a .45 and .28, sounds to me a very interesting range. I only have an Iwata HP-CH with 0.3 which I bought 15 years ago and I never used an H&S airbrush, but based on your older videos and this one I'm sure that it is defiantly achieves the quality of an Iwata.
Iwatas will last a lifetime. Your hp-ch will probably work just like a brand new one.
Miniature painter here. I'm looking to an airbrush setup. I was half and half thinking buying a compressor and an ultra, or just getting a Chinesium bundle. This has convinced me to spend the extra for H&S.
Thanks for this great review. Do you plan to review H&S Evolution 2024 soon? I am looking forward to seeing this.
of course!
I ordered the Squidmar version of this, the fancy paint job haha. Your videos really helped me want to get into airbrushing.
That one looks awesome!
I have just ordered one of these. I’m new to the airbrushing world. A friend of mine advised me about the Ultra 2024. Watched a couple of reviews and was sold.
you're going to love it! Great choice if you ask me. Best of luck to you!
Nice vid as always. Super keen to see what they do with the new Infinity CRplus. If it gets the same trigger love and aluminium body i’ll be adding another airbrush to the collection 😅
I agree with your comment
me too!! I cannot wait to see what they're up to with the new infinity. Hopefully some nice upgrades and options. either way i'll be purchasing it too!
Very nice!!!
Thank you Steve
I think they ship out soon. H&S said will receive before Christmas. 👍🏼
Great airbrush review again sir. I`ve been a Badger user since the 1980`s and thanks to you have added the Sotar 2020 and recently the Iwata Rev HP-CR3 to my collection and great they are too. Now you`ve got me blowing more of my pension on this Ultra 2024. My only possible niggle is what looks like a black rubber seal on the nozzle cap ?? Do you think this will be a problem with me using solvent based enamels ???
thanks!! well if the cap is screwed on solvent shouldn't affect it. Best to reach out to H&S if you have concerns about it though
Ive had mine for a week. Two issues: my big fingers can't come close to fitting in between the trigger and the cup. The space they allowed is WAY WAY too small. Second issue is that tiny cup--great for portrait artists and lousy for modelers. Otherwise it is the coolest thing I can imagine and has a wonderful balanced feel.
Thanks! Will you review the new Evolution as well?
of course but I'm still waiting on it to arrive!
Just looking around for my 1st airbrush, this seems to be getting great reviews
It's a very good airbrush! I like it very much
@@theartworkshop thank you,
For my first airbrush, Should I get this over the Infinity cult of paint airbrush for models?
Great video as always! How does the trigger response compared to iwata HP-CS? I am thinking of buying the 2024 evolution if the trigger response is equal to an iwata.
thanks- it's very responsive, but heavy. Feels very different from an HP-CS. Both are excellent choices though
I have the sparmax 4. Would this be an upgrade?
Great review. I think their 2024 Evo and Infinity is gonna be game changers.
Can you assemble the gun without that adjustment collar? IT's not something I would ever use.
I think so too- I'm very excited to check out the new evolution. Still waiting on it to arrive! Yes, the collar comes right off and the handle screws back on without it. I showed it on my top 10 airbrush, airbrush number 5. Looks a bit odd without it but works well. Thanks Andrew!
I need a new airbrush for priming/basing my miniatures, I am coming from a badger 105 that I've been struggling with (I have a mig air viper for fine detail that I love). Would you recommend the H&S Ultra, or an Iwata Eclipse or Revolution to replace my badger? I'm not a complete noob with airbrushes, but after struggling with the badger I'm kind of leaning towards the Ultra 2024 for simplicity sake.
What really quiet compressor do you recommend?😊 awesome review!👍🏽
thanks! I bought a silentaire compressor and I love it. Here is my video of it- th-cam.com/video/vQn-b9-5ehY/w-d-xo.html
@@theartworkshopthanks for the reply 😊👍🏽
Do you have a link for this airbrush?
Thank you for the review.
Did you have the chance to try swapping the trigger or the needle chuck assembly and using it wth the infinity or they are not interchangeable?
I am wondering if that would make the infinity more responsive
just checked for you- no, unfortunately the new needle assembly does not fit on the old model. The new one is much longer than the old one. It do not fit on the infinity or evolution either.
@@theartworkshop many many thanks for checking out!!!
Then we'll just have to wait for the infinity 2024 perhaps???
Very tempted by this but not being able to backflush surely makes cleaning and mixing a lot more difficult?
well you can't backflush it by pinching the needle tip, but you can still backflush any airbrush by unscrewing the aircap halfway. works well for cleaning.
@@theartworkshop oh, didn’t know that trick! I’ll have to look into it, thank you.
Oooooo, this is going to be tough for Badger to compete, looks great and good price.......any idea how it compares to Gaaherii or however one spells it......????
Thank you for the review! I was thinking all is great about this one right until you mentioned the trigger spring is quite hard.
I wonder how the new Evolution 2024 compares to it if anyone knows. From what I've seen, it is supposed to be somewhat shorter. Does it have softer trigger? Is it lighter or heavier than this Ultra?
I'm wondering if the new evolution is the same as the ultra as well. I ordered it awhile ago but I'm still waiting on it to arrive
It only comes with a .45mm needle and nozzle set up. Can you get smaller needles for this like .3mm I can't seem to find any information on this even on there website ?? anyone have info on this?
I bought this brush and got it this month and so far it’s been amazing! I do have a question though, I bought a 0.2 needle/nozzle for detailed work, and it came with a different needle cap. I was lead to believe are interchangeable on H&S brushes, so I tried it, and since then, the original cap now screws on a bit differently, the cleaning guides no longer line up on the side like they did when it came out of the box. It’s not really a problem as such, it still sprays great, I can still use the guides to clean the tip, but it does make me wonder if I’ve stripped or damaged the threads. Does this sound like a potential issue?
I haven't had that problem with mine but I would reach out to H&S and see if they can replace that cap or needle protector. Sounds like something is wrong. That's what I would do. best of luck to you!
I would put up the Grex XGi-ES airbrushes against the Ultra. The Grex has excellent build quality for $119. What I like about the Grex brushes is that all of their current products use common parts. For example, you can change out the 0.3 mm needle set for a 0.2, 0.5, or 0.7 needle set in this brush and it is the same needle set for the XSi-ES, XBi-ES, EGi, ESi, XBi and Tritium TG, and TS brushes. All of these brushes can also use the common Fan Caps products, and all have interchangeable color cups. Hard to beat that versatility for a price that tends to beat the pants off comparable products from Iwata or H&S. My two cents.
Yes- I need to try out grex airbrushes!! They've just always seemed expensive but $120 sound great actually. I'll have to pick that one up- thank you.
4:43 can you purchase a compatible 2ml cup for this aibrush? 5ml seems way to big but I still want a cup
not yet. I agree with 5ml is too large for me too
Great review ! I've never owned an air brush . Hope these questions aren't stupid . Can you replace the cap with the 2 prong cap ? Does it come in 4.5 ? Does the cup leak during back flushing ? Is back flushing good or important ? Appreciate your time 😊
No such thing as a stupid question here! Yes, you can replace this cap with the 2 prong one from the infinity but you will need to buy the new cap that fits this specific nozzle. My suggestion would be to reach out to H&S to confirm this and see what the recommend because I'm not 100% sure on this. The cup does not leak at all when you backflush and I only backflush when I'm finishing up cleaning to make sure there is nothing left. Hope this helps! Best of luck to you.
@@theartworkshop Thank you very much ! I read the needles & caps are interchangeable. Also they were discontinueing the 2 mm & 4mm & replacing them with the 2.8 & the 4.5 . Not sure if the new needles are available yet . Thank again ! The compression cup seems nice & can remove & use without worrying about threads 😀 good to know on the back flush 😀
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I didn't know they are discontinuing the .2 and .4! Thanks for letting me know. I haven't gotten a chance to check out the new line and nozzles (besides the ultra) yet but I'm looking forward to it. @@lovermansmith9082
Wondering if I should get the previous ultra on discount or is the trigger response that much better now?
It was really really bad to start with, I'm selling both my Evolutions and all the needles I have to get the new 2024 Evo when it's out
The old one is still very nice and I like it a lot. Just depends what you're looking for. The trigger response is so much better on this new one though.
Can’t get it to backflush for mixing and cleaning
Hello! Thanks for you video.
Do you think is overkill buy the Ultra 2024 and the Solo Evolution 2024?
I was planned to buy first the new Ultra and a few months later the Evolution, to have a more precise airbrush. And have two needles and two cups. Do you think is a waster of money? Instead of buy both, going for the evolution 2 in 1.
I haven't tested the new evo yet so won't be of much help. Depends what you are looking for. The new ultra is solid for learning though
Hi, thanks for the video. I only paint Warhammer miniatures, this airbrush is recommended for beginners, except that H&S does not follow production. So for a start should I wait more months for the return of the ultra 2024 or can I jump on an evolution CR plus 2024 or Iwata Eclipse HP-CS? Thanks for your help. PS: I have never touched an airbrush in my life but I plan to take lessons.
To be honest, those are all great options. Can't go wrong with any of them. For me, I'm a huge iwata fan so I'm always going to recommend the eclipse over anything else!
My Ultra 2024 arrived a week ago and I just painted up my first minis. I’m not sure if I am in the minority here, but I was really disappointed. I have been airbrushing for about 3-4 years (mainly just zenithal priming) with a Badger Patriot 105. The badger has been a great tool for priming, but I am wanting to get into basing and highlighting with the airbrush and was excited for this new Ultra 2024. Main disappointment has been clogging. It has been so bad I was sure they sent the wrong needle / nozzle combo. I have run stynelrez primer and white ink through a 190 micron straining funnel and with both of these the Ultra 2024 clogged up, almost immediately with the primer and after 30 seconds or so with the white ink. I have never had to thin my primer or ink when using the badger, but had really bad clogging with the Ultra. I think, not sure, but I think it is due to the setting collar (prime, base, and 3 highlight settings). Even on prime, the furthest setting, the trigger can’t go back far enough. The tip of the needle is still sticking out of the nozzle so there is a tiny gap for paint to flow through. Also, the nozzle hole is about 1/3 the size of the badger patriot, despite the badger being a .5 and the Ultra 2024 a .45. I haven’t tried it on the wide open setting, but plan to do that later this week and will provide an update. Curious if others have experience similar results.
really? not sure but it kind of sounds like some of the paint is causing a clog that needs to be flushed out periodically. Happens to me all the time with white paint. What I do is just fully pull back on the trigger to blast it out and 99% of the time this works. Cleaning off tip dry is important too! My advice would be to just paint with the collar fully open for a while to see if it's any better. But maybe something is damaged and needs to be replaced. I recommend reaching out to H&S and see what they can do for you and best of luck! Hope this helps.
@@theartworkshop I will definitely do this. I think it is the difference in why I have had a lot fewer clogs on my badger. If it starts to clog up I just pull all the way back and clear the clog and the collar settings on the Ultra 2024 just don’t let the trigger go back far enough. I think the prime setting, especially, should be at least a few mm further back. I’ll try with the wide open setting next time and report back.
Too bad H&S completly ignores customers who have problems. I got NEVER answer from support. My Infinity had damaged nozzle from the box , and they never even answered my complains.
really? reach out to them on their youtube channel! They seem to be very active on there and helpful to many people.
well, I wanted to change my RM250 for the longest time, so I think I made my choice, I could finally paint some realistic camo
Hello, thx for informative videos, I have one question:
I want to buy my first airbrush for painting some miniatures from my boardgames and I've watched your video about NEO for iwata.
Do you think this airbrush is better match for me or it does not matter (or NEO is better)?
Edit: no need to ansver .. I've made some more research and my god the Ultra 2024 design is so nice, I am ordering it :D
Ultra 24 all the way!! It's fantastic for the price. I still love the neo, but the new ultra is a much better choice today.
Mine came and either with the wrong cup or no connection for it…. The hole is too small for the outlet side of the cup.
Very odd
that does sound very odd. Probably best to get it replaced if you just ordered it
what about EVOLUTION 2024 CRplus?
yeah, I'm waiting for a review from the art workshop, with the purchase.
I came to ask the same
I have no idea... I ordered it like 3 weeks ago from H&S and haven't heard anything since I paid for it. I doubt they even shipped it out yet because I didn't receive a tracking number. I hope they send it out soon or at least give me an update on my order.
Warrick replied to a comment of mine that Eve 2024 started shipping yesterday and the new chameleon was already shipping@@theartworkshop
@@PsiBurr This is great news. I’ve not heard anything about my order yet unfortunately I’m hopefully it’s out for shipping soon, I think I ordered on maybe day one or two
How much is this brush they
Ordered mine in November,still waiting,no replies to emails.
same for me with the new evolution. Placed my order about a month ago and haven't heard anything yet. Not sure what's going on with it
Do you know if this has solvent resistant seals ?
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Have you tried their new 0.28mm needle? they claim it's more accurate for details than their old 0.20mm needle.
I ordered the new evo like a month ago but still havent recieved it. hopefully it arrives soon
Are you planning to write a review of this new Evo? If so, I think I will wait for it before buying.@@theartworkshop
i will for sure@@diabolofraise59
My fear is when removing the cover on the cup, the cup comes off the brush.....
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I've had this for 3 months, and it didn't work to well the first couple times, lots of inconsistency with how the paint came out, as in, it wouldnt until I pulled back more, and then too much came out, or some pulls would speckle, but well enough to complete projects. Now it just clogs after 2 pulls. Back flows on itself, impossible to use. Looks clean as new, but clogs, has no real use. I agree it seems to be good quality, but paint doesnt flow easy.
really? Sorry to hear that! do you think some sort of dried paint is stuck within the nozzle? I would reach out to H&S and see if they have any suggestions. Mine has been spraying very well
I think this new ultra just has one problem that the trigger is so so so stiff.
It's a HEAVY trigger, I agree.
paint a model!
The biggest issue with this brush is cleaning between colours. No backflow (unless you wrap the tip completely) and there’s always paint down the needle after running copious cleaner through it.
Wrap a tissue around the airbrush needle cap and then initiate a backflow. In most cases, this method should work effectively.
You can unscrew the cap a bit to backflush
your reviews are great but almost useless to me without showing how well it can simply cover an area. its great that you show how well it can do fine details buts more important to me is how well it can lay down paint
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