Quick Correction- At one point in this video I made a mistake and called the thinner needle a .28. The needle is a .2 and the nozzle is a .28. My apologies for that.
lol I thought the same when I bought it and I was wondering listening to the H&S guy saying it is .28mm but it will give you a finer details ....!! He was talking about the headset and not the needle. Good point !!
je viens de commander mon évolution 2024 :) , vous êtes sur que c'est une aiguille de 0,2 ? moi j'avais compris que c'étais une aiguille de 0,28 et une buse de 0,28 également
I recently bought the Ultra 2024. I want to say up front that I never used an airbrush before. I bought two cheap airbrush’s thinking it was the right thing to do to see if I liked airbrushing. Not the best idea I ever had! I never was able to get the paint to spray out of the two cheap airbrushes. Then as life throws curve balls, I had a leather project that called for airbrushing. Just my luck! I decided to stop messing around with the cheap junk and buy an excellent airbrush. I did my homework and found that Harder and Steenbeck had fantastic reviews, so I bought the Ultra 2024 because I watched Warick’s TH-cam videos from Harder and Steenbeck. He sold me on the airbrush for beginners. My leather project came out great! I received many “that-a-boys” for my excellent project. People thought I’ve been airbrushing all my life! Now that’s a review! You cannot go wrong with Harder and Steenbeck. Thanks Warick!!
Been in the model miniature hobby for many years without an airbrush and I tried two cheap airbrushes as well before buying a decent one. Once I figure out the Procon one I bought on Amazon for $90, I'll invest in one of these. Cheap airbrushes are such a waste of money if you can afford something better to start with.
@@gislo you can’t go wrong with the Ultra. It’s for beginners. Maybe someday if my leather works keeps calling for more airbrushing, I could see myself moving up into another Steen & Hardback more advanced Airbrush. Right now, I’m very satisfied with the Ultra 2024.
Great review as usual. This is the first H&S brush I have bought and have to say it’s a pleasure to use and everything about it screams quality. Like you, I wanted to adjust the trigger tension, in my case to make it a little softer, I replaced the spring rather than chop up the original. It would have been nice to be able to tune that on the brush as I can with most of my other brushes. To be fair it’s a once off thing when getting used to the brush. I love the head on the trigger, it’s just so easy to find the perfect spot for your trigger finger. It would be very hard to imagine anyone ever regretting purchasing one of these.
thanks Lance. That's what I was thinking too, just replace the spring. I found that I'll get used to pretty much any airbrush in time, but the option to adjust with a screw would be great. Have a great weekend
Great review! I’m a miniature painter and I want to up my game with the airbrush by moving beyond priming, basing, and zenithal highlights to also using the airbrush for small details, blending, and highlights. Do you recommend the new Evo 2024 or would, possibly, the upcoming 2024 Infinity be a better option? Thanks so much for your help and great video content!
Thanks- you'll love an airbrush for that! The evo is awesome and I'd def recommend it but it might be a good idea to wait to see what the infinity has so that you can decide then. That's what i would do. H&S has been coming up with some great new models and I expect the infinity to be a great option as well.
Another brilliant review👍✌️💜😊 I always watch you and Rob (Dred), between you both, you cover everything and you're both great artists. I build/paint models - when and as my health allows - I was a reasonable artist in the past (sadly gave it up in my youth), so I appreciate what you guys do. I've also done my own car paintwork in the past too. I run my Evolution with a 0.4 set up (newer needle/nozzle set), it's a great workhorse too especially with Rob's (Dred) modification. And yes it'll do detail work too, ideal set up for acrylics. I used to work with enamels and solvent based paints - much prefer them - but even with precautions my health won't allow it (worked with too many chemicals and welding irritants in the 1980s). I wonder if the new "cam" unit (like a helical screw - ultimate control), would fit my generation of Evolution? The new trigger would. Not that I need to fit the cam assembly, with my cheap modification as suggested by Rob. I'd like to fit the new trigger and "cam" assembly to my two Infinitys though🤔 Or I'll be waiting for an alloy 2024 Infinity. Thanks again 👍✌️💜😊
Hey thanks so much my friend. Health is always the number one priority, so take care of yourself and take it day by day. Just want to wish you all the best! 😊About the cam unit, I've got you covered. Later on today I'll test out the new trigger assembly in the older model and get back to you with this. I too wonder if it will work with the older model and will get back to you by the end of the day!
@@theartworkshop Thanks for the kind words✌️👍💜😊 Excited to see how your experiment with the swapping of those cam/spring units goes👍✌️💜🤔👍✌️💜 Thanks and enjoy 👍✌️
Just tested it for you and the entire spring assembly and the new trigger fit the old evolution. Sprayed some paint with it and it worked very well. The body is a bit longer on the old model so I'm not sure if this new setup is designed for it. I would reach out to H&S and see what they say or if they recommend this. It does fit together seemingly well though. Hope this helps!@@musoseven8218
My cousin just called to say he’s sending me a Harder & Steenbeck airbrush. I’m not even sure which one he bought me but I’m sure this will be a huge step up for me to a premium airbrush. I’m looking so forward to it.
@@theartworkshop I’ve been using cheaper airbrushes off of Amazon but my painting has gotten progressively better. I paint model cars and switched to airbrushing a while back and with these cheap airbrushes they just didn’t advance with my abilities. So my cousin said I needed a better airbrush so he sent me a decent compressor and told me he had a Harder & Steenbeck airbrush coming. My cousin has always been more like an older brother and has always watched out for me. My airbrush should be here Friday. I’m REALLY looking forward to it.
Excellent presentation as always and very informative! I wonder though if the needle chuck & trigger can fit in the older Evo CR+ so we can fix the inconsistent trigger without buying a whole new one... 🤔
First of all I want to thank you for your channel. You are very clear about everything. I have been working with Airbrushes since 1991 and always with IWATA. I wanted to renew myself and have been curious about H&S models and the choice was an Evolution 2024 CR Plus. I've had it for a little over a week and am more and more fascinated by how well it works. So precise and soft. I really love it and am buying another one just like it to have the same feel in both because I work with two at the same time all the time. Best regards: Esa from Stockholm/Sweden
Hey Esa, thanks so much! You can never go wrong with Iwata. I own so many and they are all fantastic. This new evo24 is something special though. It can go from extreme detail with the smaller setup to perfect control with the .45. It's a great airbrush and I'm glad you enjoy painting with it as much as I do.
Hey again! Thank you for your quick response. It's true that with Iwatas you can never go wrong. Of course, I have several and I got my oldest from the factory in 1991. This is an HP-B that came a few years before the micro. It has been a workhorse for details up until now. I have yet to test the .28 nozzle and .2 needle for the Evo. .45 has yet to handle extreme detail. As extreme as the recent works required, I must say. It will be interesting to test the finer set shortly. I am very satisfied with my decision and purchase and will look with great pleasure at your presentation of model Infinity. It's fun to try a new brand. Do you suggest another Evo or instead an Infininy..? A slightly stupid and unnecessary question I think now that you don't even have to answer. Best regards : Esa/ Sweden.
I’ve been using the infinity cr plus for nearly 2 years now, love it, only criticism is that it can block easy if you’re not hardcore with your maintenance. Having said that it doesn’t happen that often, more so when I’ve left paint in while I’m putting bits together on a model etc. only had to do a full strip clean once and changed all the seals while I did it, although they weren’t bad. Going to try this next.
I love my older infinity airbrushes as well. I have to say this evolution 2024 is becoming one of my favorite airbrushes I own. Been using it a lot off camera and it is pretty amazing, especially with the .4 setup. I bet you'll really enjoy painting with it to!
I got mine a couple of weeks ago, I love it !! mine has the 0.2 and 0.4 needles. Do you know if it will take a 0.15 mm needle ( maybe with another headset?) like the infinity ? Thanks
Thank you, great video. I'm revisiting this airbrush as it came in a kit, I've been using Iwata for 12 months and dug this out for detail work 😮 it's effing surgical 👌🏼
I got it for $220.00 for the CR Plus in the US. And I found out that Iwata owns Hard & Steenbeck. That was a shock to me at first. But I'm a big fan of Iwata for a lot of years. Like when Iwata bought Olympos. So I was happy to see Iwata owns them.
I just ordered one of these Evo CRPlus airbrushes--I gave away all my Iwatas to my nephews once I tried my first Olympos Micron, the original design. I now have two MP200-C Microns and one B Micron plus another fantastic detail airbrush from Olympos called an SP-B. I've wanted to try an H & S for years but the trigger response issue put me off--apparently they've addressed that with the 2024 Evo so I decided to finally get one, it'll be here Fri. and I am SO fired up to use it!
thanks! both are very solid options- but I'd say this evolution is a better choice if you don't want to have to upgrade. It can do pretty much everything very well. The new ultra is awesome though
I would rate it very highly. I love the new evo24 so much and have been using it for all of my own paintings. Easily in the top 3 for me, on par with the eclipse
Thank's, I'm looking for an airbrush to start with (I paint Warhammer figurines with brushes and wanted to start airbrushing), I was hesitating between these two models, thank you @@theartworkshop
hahah I know all too well what you mean. I ordered this one the weekend they announced it! A few issues with shipping, but I finally got it. Really awesome airbrush.
Great review! How do you think it compares to the eclipse? Thinking of buying an everyday driver for miniature painting and I do already have a Creos 771 for detail work.
I'm new to airbrushing and purchased Evolution CR Plus and wondering if there is a larger needle available for this air brush? I also have a badger which I have been using before I purchased previuosly.
Great video! I got the black Squidmar one; I was amazed with how quiet it is. I started just running water through it and I thought I might have a jam or something, it's just really really quiet. Warwick is doing a great job over there at H&S; the Evolution is so good that it makes me wonder what's left to add to the upcoming Infinity, except perhaps for spring tension control. Of course every time I think I've bought my last airbrush they come up with something new & amazing. Great assessment ; always look forward to your videos!
I have to tell you, I just LOVE the squidmar version of the evo. The flat black with that design on it is beautiful. I'm afraid if I see it in person I'll end up buying it 🤣🤣Last thing I need is more airbrushes! Really appreciate your comment Edward- thank you so very much.
If it did have that Ultra 2024 feature and the dial to adjust how far back you pull, I'd consider this. Having put a .2 needle in my Ultra 2024 my fine lines almost look as good as yours and I'm a total beginner. I'm thinking of getting a second Ultra 2024 and leaving the .45 on it.
You can absolutely set trigger pull on this. The only thing the Ultra does that this doesn’t is stop you from pulling the trigger before pushing it in, and that really isn’t great for anyone but a beginner. And no, you aren’t doing anything as well as him if you’re a beginner. That’s not an insult, just facts
@@theartworkshop I bought the Evo24! Then realised There was an option that came with the .45 only... and that's the one I got haha. I message H&S, hopefully they'll let me upgrade the order or sell me a nozzle kit lol
So does this model and the ultra 2024 fully fix the trigger response issues with the past H&S airbrushes bringing it in line with the iwata eclipse in terms of trigger response or is it not quite there yet
Great review I love the feel of my ex-infinity. I’m with you. I’m one of those few that also loves the shape of the trigger!. Hope the infinity does come with the trigger tension option! Even though I also like it be more more resistant as well. Some will prefer it to be softer! Thanks on another great review!!👊🏽
Thanks JC! I agree, I bet most prefer softer trigger tension. I wish it was possible to make it more resistant for people like us. Hopefully the the new infinity will have it. I like the old trigger shape too- new one is really nice though. You'd probably like it- Have a great weekend!
Hey friend, do you think an upgrade to the Infinity is coming soon? I’m debating getting this Evolution or just holding out for an upgraded Infinity (this is for mini painting, upgrading from a 0.2 Tamiya).
thanks! the badger 105 is an awesome airbrush and sprays so well. The evo covers the detail side of painting with that .28 setup. 105 for general use, evo for detail- a pretty good combo of airbrushes if you ask me!
The trigger on previous evolution didn't work fine, the exact point of launching paint was random with Createx Illustration Colors. Does it work fine in this model? Noozle and needle seem to be the same By the way, the removable cups can be used too on Iwata Custom Micron Takumi.
I wonder if the cap for the 0.28 is the same as the old 0.2 and how to know if the nozzle is the old 0.2 or the new 0.28. Same goes for 0.4 and 0.45. I assume the needles havent changed at all.
Thats a good question and I'm not quite sure. I do know that the nozzle on the new evo is different from the previous generation which had a screw on needle cap. But there is the old .2 for the infinity which looks similar to the new one. I'd reach out to H&S to get the answer.
In my opinion- of equal quality and performance. The 2in1 version of the evo24 is a bit more versatile because you get the small and medium setup. Both are awesome airbrushes and you can't go wrong with either.
Does anyone know where you can get the new 0.28mm nozzle? I dropped mine accidentally and it got messed up. You would think replacements would be out there for purchase by now..
hi love your videos and great information I wanted to know if it was normal I purchased the ultra 2024 and I was trying it out and it blosck on me and I ended up with paint in the trigger is that normal ?
thanks! If you are finding paint around the trigger, it's usually a problem with the needle packing screw. But since you have a new airbrush that is unlikely. H&S usually do a great job at setting everything correctly before shipping them out. Here is my video on the needle packing adjustment- th-cam.com/video/qkhbteMtFak/w-d-xo.html Another thing- could it be that you pulled the needle through the back of the airbrush while paint was still in the cup?
My old ultra 0.4 took 2k primer, clear coat, base, leafing size like a champ. I didn't even took it apart for cleaning afterwards and still works like It was new... doesn't look like that though 😜
Hi @theartworkshop ! Can you do a review of the Mistair SL1000 airbrush? It sure looks exactly like a H&S Evolution, down to the box, needle etc. I wonder if it is produced by H&S or just a copy.
I recently purchased the 2024 evolution CR plus 2 in 1. Is the crown cap not removeable? it spins but I cannot remove it. Dont want to damage it. Any suggestions?
funny you mentioned that because I also had a very difficult time removing it too. What I did was fully remove the needle so that you don't risk damaging it, then I basically used my fingernails to get some grip where it meets the body of the airbrush and wiggle it back and forth until it slides off. You'll get it off, just remove the needle first! Hope this helps
Do you order your airbrush from Amazon or from the actual manufacturer? Because I’ve been searching Amazon for this same product Ultra CR plus 2024, however doesn’t give enough information if it’s an actual 2024 model or an older model they’re selling. I appreciate your input. Thank you.
No, I ordered this one directly from Harder and Steenbeck. It was shipped from Germany! I prefer ordering from amazon as well, but this new model isn't up for sale on it yet. If you are in the US, spraygunner is a very good option. I order from them quite a bit.
Thank you for your response, and I appreciate the advice and quick reply. Ok, I will get on the harder & Steenbeck site and order straight through them. Also thank you, for the advice on spraygunner. Good to know for the future. Thanks 🙏
Thanks for one more great airbrush review! I have just ordered a 2in1. It looks like it's trigger response problem is finally solved. Now with the new nozzle sizes what has actually changed? I am a bit confused if it is only the nozzle, the nozzle and the aircap or if that includes the needle too. In any case I wonder how am I going to discern the changed parts from the older versions...
Hey Cyril- it's called a drawing glove. Basically a light fabric glove with 3 fingers cut out. They are mainly used for drawing tablets. I've been testing them out on a canvas so that my hand doesn't rest of the painting. I usually use a piece of paper to lean on but I'm starting to like using the glove.
thanks, I just love the iwata revolution. I find myself reaching for it more and more. I'll have to check out the HP-BR because I'm a huge fan of smaller cups. Thank you for the suggestion!
Can I buy it in Amazon? Seems like the version of this brush sell in the US is different: It doesnt have the handle cut, neither the trigger back regulator. I want the one you show in this video :(
The one on amazon is the older model. I bought it from Harder & Steenbeck website, but it was shipped from Germany. A company called Spraygunner is a good place to buy airbrushes in the US. I use them all the time!
@@theartworkshop Thank you so much! Im gonna buy it from Spraygunner, I already visited their website, and placed an order. By the way, do you have any discount code? :) Regards!
Hi from France dude ! Thx for yout awesome works ! Im looking for a New airbrush ! I do my class on the HS ultra but im feel limited. I hésitate between the évolution and the Iwata high performance HP bp. Thats for miniature painting. I wanna make some précision stuff. Whats your choice ?
@@theartworkshop thx for the response. Sure they are ! But if you have to chose one to make précision (0,20 Is ok for me) stuff what do you take ? 100€ more for Iwata is for a reason ? Some ppl tells me to go Iwata for the quality of fabrication (Iwata is for life) and quality working of thé airbrush. Other ppl tells me évolution Is more friendly user, cheaper Price and do the same jobs. Im pretty Lost. Thx again for yout réponse and your awesome chanel.
@@mitsui76 Well both are airbrushes that will last for many many years if you take care for them. Here is the US, the Iwata HP-B cost me $170 and the Evolution 24 (2in1) cost me $245. The iwata is actually less money than the evolution and I find it to be a great value. I love the iwata HP-B but I wouldn't pay more than $200 for it. If the H&S Evolution is 100€ less, than that's the airbrush I would choose. The evo24 is an awesome airbrush to paint with and I'm sure you'll love it. Hope this was helpful!
@@theartworkshop woaw that Price !!! There Iwata is 280euros and harder is about 140 euros ! Transport and tax surely ! Iwata for US and harder for european so hahahah ! Thanks you a lot dude
sorry i am new to airbrushes i ve seen the ultra 2024 and i was wondering what does this one have and ultra doesn't that makes it double the price because from this review i can only see what this one is missing compared to ultra. i only see that u can fit 2ml and 5ml cup on this one and i dont know if u can fit 2ml on ultra i think not and this one has that knob at the back to control the travel and paint quantity which ultra made it easier with the 5 steps knob at the middle of the airbrush. apart from these i cant see any differences and i wonder why would pay double for this one. i am not ironic i am just trying to understand what this one has on top of ultra that makes it double the price
I am new to airbrush, and I paint miniatures. Personally, I am having trouble deciding what airbrush to go with. Any suggestions? For a budget that is no issue I just want an airbrush that will work well and I can grow my skills with, and will last.
The new 2024 Harder and Steenbeck Ultra is a great brush to learn with. The way it is setup will teach you how to airbrush. Another benefit is the Harder and Steenbeck range for most of the models (including Ultra) allow you to mix and match nozzle/needle sets.
lots of great options! this new evolution is pretty awesome, especially the 2in1 because it literally sprays like 2 different airbrushes. Another great choice is the iwata eclipse hp-cs (which is my favorite airbrush). If budget isn't an issue I'd recommend going with a high end brand like iwata or harder and steenbeck since they've been around forever and are loved by many. Hope this helpful and best of luck to you.
Depends on where you live I would say. I was strongly eyeing Iwata and CSI Creos, but here in germany these two brands are noticably more expensive then in the US. I picked H&S since they are a bit cheaper than overseas (payed 190€ for the Evo 24 including shipping and tax vs 130 for any Creos or 180 for an Iwata), replacement parts are also easier to get and cheaper compared to the japanese brands. Since H&S belongs to Iwata I guess that is by design, so look out for regional pricing and availability differences to find your sweetspot
Iwata is undisputed king; the Eclipse is their workhorse AB. GSI Greos/Procon Boy is an amazing alternative (PS-289 is the 0.3mm nozzle I believe). Badger in the USA makes some solid model priming options(Patriot) The new Sparmax MAX35, SP20x etc are supposed to be very similar to the mid range iwata according to The Air Space
the needle chucking nut? Sometimes paint gets around these parts and makes them difficult to remove. Do you have some soft jaw pliers to give yourself some grip to loosen it up? Regular pliers will mar the finish unless you wrap it with something. Just a reminder- never use these to tighten anything down on an airbrush. Hand tight only!
@@theartworkshop yep the soft nose worked great. It was new out of the box and tight as hell. Can't wait to start painting. My other issue was hose compatibility. My 1/8 just screwed onto my old Iwata. This one comes with a quick connect which I've never really needed. When you remove the quick connect my hose seems to fit snug until you turn on the compressor. Then any movement of the hose results in air loss through the gasket in the head of the hose. It's weird. But now I'm waiting for my female side of the quick connect. Then I'm in business
You sound like Christian Bale doing an Amerircan accent. Fantastic review.. I want one of these, seems like a solid all-rounder airbrush for a beginner.
I had a crappy master airbrush, upgraded to an evolution in 2021, but it’s been a nightmare compared to the master. It clogs and spits constantly since day 1, paint seems to get caught in the bottom of the paint cup no matter what I do or how much I thin paints. I’m going to try an iwata and see if it was just manufacturing defects or something, but not super impressed with my H&S experience.
@@Puckerization Works fine. There isn't much difference between H&S brushes at the front end beyond the nozzle and needle so if you put a .15 into an evolution you essentially have an Infinity.
Quick Correction- At one point in this video I made a mistake and called the thinner needle a .28. The needle is a .2 and the nozzle is a .28. My apologies for that.
Thank you for the clarification. It has been confusing.
lol I thought the same when I bought it and I was wondering listening to the H&S guy saying it is .28mm but it will give you a finer details ....!! He was talking about the headset and not the needle. Good point !!
je viens de commander mon évolution 2024 :) , vous êtes sur que c'est une aiguille de 0,2 ? moi j'avais compris que c'étais une aiguille de 0,28 et une buse de 0,28 également
When is the infinity cr plus 2024 coming out
I recently bought the Ultra 2024. I want to say up front that I never used an airbrush before. I bought two cheap airbrush’s thinking it was the right thing to do to see if I liked airbrushing. Not the best idea I ever had! I never was able to get the paint to spray out of the two cheap airbrushes. Then as life throws curve balls, I had a leather project that called for airbrushing. Just my luck! I decided to stop messing around with the cheap junk and buy an excellent airbrush. I did my homework and found that Harder and Steenbeck had fantastic reviews, so I bought the Ultra 2024 because I watched Warick’s TH-cam videos from Harder and Steenbeck. He sold me on the airbrush for beginners. My leather project came out great! I received many “that-a-boys” for my excellent project. People thought I’ve been airbrushing all my life! Now that’s a review! You cannot go wrong with Harder and Steenbeck. Thanks Warick!!
Excellent choice! I love the Ultra 2024 as well
Been in the model miniature hobby for many years without an airbrush and I tried two cheap airbrushes as well before buying a decent one. Once I figure out the Procon one I bought on Amazon for $90, I'll invest in one of these. Cheap airbrushes are such a waste of money if you can afford something better to start with.
Thanks, this is what a noob like me was hoping to find :)
@@gislo you can’t go wrong with the Ultra. It’s for beginners. Maybe someday if my leather works keeps calling for more airbrushing, I could see myself moving up into another Steen & Hardback more advanced Airbrush. Right now, I’m very satisfied with the Ultra 2024.
Brilliant airbrush by Harder and steenbeck build quality is always spot on thanks for sharing
You told me months ago and I couldn't agree more. It's really really good- Thank you Rob, looking forward to your next video!
Just been singing your praises elsewhere on here Rob👍✌️💜😀
@@theartworkshop glad you like it I new you would anyway 😉
@@musoseven8218 nice one thank you
@@dredfxcustompaint 👍✌️💜😊
Great review as usual. This is the first H&S brush I have bought and have to say it’s a pleasure to use and everything about it screams quality. Like you, I wanted to adjust the trigger tension, in my case to make it a little softer, I replaced the spring rather than chop up the original. It would have been nice to be able to tune that on the brush as I can with most of my other brushes. To be fair it’s a once off thing when getting used to the brush. I love the head on the trigger, it’s just so easy to find the perfect spot for your trigger finger. It would be very hard to imagine anyone ever regretting purchasing one of these.
thanks Lance. That's what I was thinking too, just replace the spring. I found that I'll get used to pretty much any airbrush in time, but the option to adjust with a screw would be great. Have a great weekend
Great review! I’m a miniature painter and I want to up my game with the airbrush by moving beyond priming, basing, and zenithal highlights to also using the airbrush for small details, blending, and highlights. Do you recommend the new Evo 2024 or would, possibly, the upcoming 2024 Infinity be a better option? Thanks so much for your help and great video content!
Thanks- you'll love an airbrush for that! The evo is awesome and I'd def recommend it but it might be a good idea to wait to see what the infinity has so that you can decide then. That's what i would do. H&S has been coming up with some great new models and I expect the infinity to be a great option as well.
@@theartworkshop Thanks for the reply! That sounds like a good idea.
Best airbrush review channel on TH-cam.
wow thanks so very much for this! so nice of you.
Great review. You touched on a lot subjects that a lot of reviewers just skip over. Can't wait to try one myself.
thanks Andrew- I think you're gonna love it!
Another brilliant review👍✌️💜😊 I always watch you and Rob (Dred), between you both, you cover everything and you're both great artists. I build/paint models - when and as my health allows - I was a reasonable artist in the past (sadly gave it up in my youth), so I appreciate what you guys do. I've also done my own car paintwork in the past too.
I run my Evolution with a 0.4 set up (newer needle/nozzle set), it's a great workhorse too especially with Rob's (Dred) modification. And yes it'll do detail work too, ideal set up for acrylics. I used to work with enamels and solvent based paints - much prefer them - but even with precautions my health won't allow it (worked with too many chemicals and welding irritants in the 1980s).
I wonder if the new "cam" unit (like a helical screw - ultimate control), would fit my generation of Evolution? The new trigger would. Not that I need to fit the cam assembly, with my cheap modification as suggested by Rob. I'd like to fit the new trigger and "cam" assembly to my two Infinitys though🤔 Or I'll be waiting for an alloy 2024 Infinity.
Thanks again 👍✌️💜😊
Hey thanks so much my friend. Health is always the number one priority, so take care of yourself and take it day by day. Just want to wish you all the best! 😊About the cam unit, I've got you covered. Later on today I'll test out the new trigger assembly in the older model and get back to you with this. I too wonder if it will work with the older model and will get back to you by the end of the day!
@@theartworkshop Thanks for the kind words✌️👍💜😊 Excited to see how your experiment with the swapping of those cam/spring units goes👍✌️💜🤔👍✌️💜 Thanks and enjoy 👍✌️
Just tested it for you and the entire spring assembly and the new trigger fit the old evolution. Sprayed some paint with it and it worked very well. The body is a bit longer on the old model so I'm not sure if this new setup is designed for it. I would reach out to H&S and see what they say or if they recommend this. It does fit together seemingly well though. Hope this helps!@@musoseven8218
My cousin just called to say he’s sending me a Harder & Steenbeck airbrush. I’m not even sure which one he bought me but I’m sure this will be a huge step up for me to a premium airbrush. I’m looking so forward to it.
I wish my cousin sent me a Harder and Steenbeck airbrush! that is awesome- I bet you're going to love it
@@theartworkshop I’ve been using cheaper airbrushes off of Amazon but my painting has gotten progressively better. I paint model cars and switched to airbrushing a while back and with these cheap airbrushes they just didn’t advance with my abilities. So my cousin said I needed a better airbrush so he sent me a decent compressor and told me he had a Harder & Steenbeck airbrush coming. My cousin has always been more like an older brother and has always watched out for me. My airbrush should be here Friday. I’m REALLY looking forward to it.
Excellent presentation as always and very informative!
I wonder though if the needle chuck & trigger can fit in the older Evo CR+
so we can fix the inconsistent trigger without buying a whole new one... 🤔
First of all I want to thank you for your channel. You are very clear about everything. I have been working with Airbrushes since 1991 and always with IWATA. I wanted to renew myself and have been curious about H&S models and the choice was an Evolution 2024 CR Plus. I've had it for a little over a week and am more and more fascinated by how well it works. So precise and soft. I really love it and am buying another one just like it to have the same feel in both because I work with two at the same time all the time. Best regards: Esa from Stockholm/Sweden
Hey Esa, thanks so much! You can never go wrong with Iwata. I own so many and they are all fantastic. This new evo24 is something special though. It can go from extreme detail with the smaller setup to perfect control with the .45. It's a great airbrush and I'm glad you enjoy painting with it as much as I do.
Hey again! Thank you for your quick response. It's true that with Iwatas you can never go wrong. Of course, I have several and I got my oldest from the factory in 1991. This is an HP-B that came a few years before the micro. It has been a workhorse for details up until now. I have yet to test the .28 nozzle and .2 needle for the Evo. .45 has yet to handle extreme detail. As extreme as the recent works required, I must say. It will be interesting to test the finer set shortly. I am very satisfied with my decision and purchase and will look with great pleasure at your presentation of model Infinity. It's fun to try a new brand. Do you suggest another Evo or instead an Infininy..? A slightly stupid and unnecessary question I think now that you don't even have to answer. Best regards : Esa/ Sweden.
@@esakorvo5712Iwata Eclipse or H&S evolution? My first airbrush, and i'm trying to collect opinions
I remember you recently did a tier list of your favorite airbrush , where would you put this one on it?
not sure but pretty high up there! I'm still an iwata guy (just my preference) but man does H&S make some amazing airbrushes.
That is helpful thanks , I like your art , thanks for your efforts in this vid much appreciated, so much good info in this vid thanks 🙏
thanks!
I’ve been using the infinity cr plus for nearly 2 years now, love it, only criticism is that it can block easy if you’re not hardcore with your maintenance. Having said that it doesn’t happen that often, more so when I’ve left paint in while I’m putting bits together on a model etc. only had to do a full strip clean once and changed all the seals while I did it, although they weren’t bad. Going to try this next.
I love my older infinity airbrushes as well. I have to say this evolution 2024 is becoming one of my favorite airbrushes I own. Been using it a lot off camera and it is pretty amazing, especially with the .4 setup. I bet you'll really enjoy painting with it to!
I got mine a couple of weeks ago, I love it !! mine has the 0.2 and 0.4 needles. Do you know if it will take a 0.15 mm needle ( maybe with another headset?) like the infinity ? Thanks
Yes, their nozzles/needles are universal and will fit the ultra, evo, and infinity. You can buy it as a kit of the air cap, nozzle, and needle.
I just got the black chrome one this week myself from Germany
Thanks for your sharing, very useful. I am curious about is there any particular reason to remove the air speed section in recent reviews?
thanks! no particular reason. I wasn't sure if they were useful to anyone so I figured I'd leave it out
Thank you, great video. I'm revisiting this airbrush as it came in a kit, I've been using Iwata for 12 months and dug this out for detail work 😮 it's effing surgical 👌🏼
thanks! this 2024 model is pretty incredible for detail. should serve you well
I got it for $220.00 for the CR Plus in the US. And I found out that Iwata owns Hard & Steenbeck. That was a shock to me at first. But I'm a big fan of Iwata for a lot of years. Like when Iwata bought Olympos. So I was happy to see Iwata owns them.
Consolidation is always bad for the consumer
I just ordered one of these Evo CRPlus airbrushes--I gave away all my Iwatas to my nephews once I tried my first Olympos Micron, the original design. I now have two MP200-C Microns and one B Micron plus another fantastic detail airbrush from Olympos called an SP-B. I've wanted to try an H & S for years but the trigger response issue put me off--apparently they've addressed that with the 2024 Evo so I decided to finally get one, it'll be here Fri. and I am SO fired up to use it!
I am looking to get a new airbrush and I was thinking in one from Harder Steenbeck, this video was helpfull thanks for sharing. Cheers
It's a fantastic airbrush. I love it! All the best.
Great video. Been debating between this one and the ultra. I don’t want to have to upgrade after a year.
thanks! both are very solid options- but I'd say this evolution is a better choice if you don't want to have to upgrade. It can do pretty much everything very well. The new ultra is awesome though
I just watched your top 10 airbrush video. Does this 2024 evolution change that top 10 lineup?
I would rate it very highly. I love the new evo24 so much and have been using it for all of my own paintings. Easily in the top 3 for me, on par with the eclipse
what do you prefere , EVOLUTION CR PLUS 2024 or INFINITY CR PLUS ? thank
Both are very good airbrushes, but I prefer the evo24.
Thank's, I'm looking for an airbrush to start with (I paint Warhammer figurines with brushes and wanted to start airbrushing), I was hesitating between these two models, thank you
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Dang it! Now I want another airbrush!!!! Great review.
and just ordered one haha
hahah I know all too well what you mean. I ordered this one the weekend they announced it! A few issues with shipping, but I finally got it. Really awesome airbrush.
Excellent test. after watching the wideo, I decided to buy this airbrush. Thx
You are going to love it. It's a great one!
Great review! How do you think it compares to the eclipse? Thinking of buying an everyday driver for miniature painting and I do already have a Creos 771 for detail work.
Thanks! Both are awesome. I think the .4 evolution would make an excellent daily driver to go along with your 771.
thanks for the review.. trigger response solved !!!!! i am so happy ❤❤❤
thanks!
Nice. I may have to add this to my collection.
You should! it made a very nice addition to mine.
I'm new to airbrushing and purchased Evolution CR Plus and wondering if there is a larger needle available for this air brush? I also have a badger which I have been using before I purchased previuosly.
Great review. I am considering of bying this airbrush. Is it possible to use these needles also for the infinity CR Plus?
thanks- yes, but you'll need to swap make sure you are using the matching headcap, nozzle, and needle
Great video! I got the black Squidmar one; I was amazed with how quiet it is. I started just running water through it and I thought I might have a jam or something, it's just really really quiet. Warwick is doing a great job over there at H&S; the Evolution is so good that it makes me wonder what's left to add to the upcoming Infinity, except perhaps for spring tension control. Of course every time I think I've bought my last airbrush they come up with something new & amazing. Great assessment ; always look forward to your videos!
I have to tell you, I just LOVE the squidmar version of the evo. The flat black with that design on it is beautiful. I'm afraid if I see it in person I'll end up buying it 🤣🤣Last thing I need is more airbrushes! Really appreciate your comment Edward- thank you so very much.
Thanks for the review. The airbrush looks awesome. I just ordered it.
You give excellent reviews.
thanks!
Q: does it have the titanium nozzle and new stronger needle ?
If it did have that Ultra 2024 feature and the dial to adjust how far back you pull, I'd consider this. Having put a .2 needle in my Ultra 2024 my fine lines almost look as good as yours and I'm a total beginner. I'm thinking of getting a second Ultra 2024 and leaving the .45 on it.
You can absolutely set trigger pull on this. The only thing the Ultra does that this doesn’t is stop you from pulling the trigger before pushing it in, and that really isn’t great for anyone but a beginner.
And no, you aren’t doing anything as well as him if you’re a beginner. That’s not an insult, just facts
@@Stonehorn That "only thing" is important to me as a beginner.
Thanks for the review👍
Have you been able to check out the aluminum plus at all?
No, but I've always wanted one since they were released. Someday I'll have to pick one up.
HMM I have the Ultra 2024, should I get an evo? Or just get the .2 nozzle kit?
both are solid options, but for the price of a .2 setup it's probably best to just spent it on the evo24. That's what I would do.
@@theartworkshop I bought the Evo24! Then realised There was an option that came with the .45 only... and that's the one I got haha. I message H&S, hopefully they'll let me upgrade the order or sell me a nozzle kit lol
Hi, could i use aaa industrial thinner for cleaning this Harder and Steenbeck Airbrush.I have been using this thinner for other Airbrush cleaning
So does this model and the ultra 2024 fully fix the trigger response issues with the past H&S airbrushes bringing it in line with the iwata eclipse in terms of trigger response or is it not quite there yet
The trigger response is instant!!!! NO exaggeration!
Great review I love the feel of my ex-infinity. I’m with you. I’m one of those few that also loves the shape of the trigger!. Hope the infinity does come with the trigger tension option! Even though I also like it be more more resistant as well. Some will prefer it to be softer! Thanks on another great review!!👊🏽
Thanks JC! I agree, I bet most prefer softer trigger tension. I wish it was possible to make it more resistant for people like us. Hopefully the the new infinity will have it. I like the old trigger shape too- new one is really nice though. You'd probably like it- Have a great weekend!
Have a great weekend Mark! Fingers crossed! On that trigger!!!
Hey friend, do you think an upgrade to the Infinity is coming soon?
I’m debating getting this Evolution or just holding out for an upgraded Infinity (this is for mini painting, upgrading from a 0.2 Tamiya).
I hope so! I haven't heard any information on it but H&S said that it's going to released soon. No idea when that is though.
I might be imagining thinks but I had the feeling you were having a lot of fun with this one
sure was! 🙂
If you know the spring diameter, to get a heavier trigger feel, couldn't you just replace the spring?
Was looking for another airbrush after using my Badger 105, this airbrush look magnificent and easy too clean ( not like the badger...) great review
thanks! the badger 105 is an awesome airbrush and sprays so well. The evo covers the detail side of painting with that .28 setup. 105 for general use, evo for detail- a pretty good combo of airbrushes if you ask me!
@theartworkshop as a beginner, would you recommand this one or the HP-CS?
both are awesome. Can't go wrong with either one!
The trigger on previous evolution didn't work fine, the exact point of launching paint was random with Createx Illustration Colors. Does it work fine in this model? Noozle and needle seem to be the same
By the way, the removable cups can be used too on Iwata Custom Micron Takumi.
the nozzle is new and they updated the trigger assembly! It's excellent.
I wonder if the cap for the 0.28 is the same as the old 0.2 and how to know if the nozzle is the old 0.2 or the new 0.28. Same goes for 0.4 and 0.45. I assume the needles havent changed at all.
Thats a good question and I'm not quite sure. I do know that the nozzle on the new evo is different from the previous generation which had a screw on needle cap. But there is the old .2 for the infinity which looks similar to the new one. I'd reach out to H&S to get the answer.
Thanks! Let us know when you find out!
"I'm not quite sure what that means but I'm all for it "
How does it compare to the iwata eclipse?
In my opinion- of equal quality and performance. The 2in1 version of the evo24 is a bit more versatile because you get the small and medium setup. Both are awesome airbrushes and you can't go wrong with either.
Does anyone know where you can get the new 0.28mm nozzle? I dropped mine accidentally and it got messed up. You would think replacements would be out there for purchase by now..
Tamiya airbrushes have had removable cups for many years.
I own several and they are worth a look.
I didn't know this! Awesome info and thank you for informing me. greatly appreciated.
hi love your videos and great information I wanted to know if it was normal I purchased the ultra 2024 and I was trying it out and it blosck on me and I ended up with paint in the trigger is that normal ?
thanks! If you are finding paint around the trigger, it's usually a problem with the needle packing screw. But since you have a new airbrush that is unlikely. H&S usually do a great job at setting everything correctly before shipping them out. Here is my video on the needle packing adjustment- th-cam.com/video/qkhbteMtFak/w-d-xo.html
Another thing- could it be that you pulled the needle through the back of the airbrush while paint was still in the cup?
My old ultra 0.4 took 2k primer, clear coat, base, leafing size like a champ. I didn't even took it apart for cleaning afterwards and still works like It was new... doesn't look like that though 😜
yeah man that .4 is kind of a workhorse. very forgiving!
Hi @theartworkshop !
Can you do a review of the Mistair SL1000 airbrush? It sure looks exactly like a H&S Evolution, down to the box, needle etc. I wonder if it is produced by H&S or just a copy.
I've got to look them up. never heard of them!
I recently purchased the 2024 evolution CR plus 2 in 1. Is the crown cap not removeable? it spins but I cannot remove it. Dont want to damage it. Any suggestions?
funny you mentioned that because I also had a very difficult time removing it too. What I did was fully remove the needle so that you don't risk damaging it, then I basically used my fingernails to get some grip where it meets the body of the airbrush and wiggle it back and forth until it slides off. You'll get it off, just remove the needle first! Hope this helps
Do you order your airbrush from Amazon or from the actual manufacturer? Because I’ve been searching Amazon for this same product Ultra CR plus 2024, however doesn’t give enough information if it’s an actual 2024 model or an older model they’re selling. I appreciate your input. Thank you.
No, I ordered this one directly from Harder and Steenbeck. It was shipped from Germany! I prefer ordering from amazon as well, but this new model isn't up for sale on it yet. If you are in the US, spraygunner is a very good option. I order from them quite a bit.
Thank you for your response, and I appreciate the advice and quick reply. Ok, I will get on the harder & Steenbeck site and order straight through them. Also thank you, for the advice on spraygunner. Good to know for the future. Thanks 🙏
Thanks for one more great airbrush review!
I have just ordered a 2in1.
It looks like it's trigger response problem is finally solved.
Now with the new nozzle sizes what has actually changed?
I am a bit confused if it is only the nozzle, the nozzle and the aircap or if that includes the needle too.
In any case I wonder how am I going to discern the changed parts from the older versions...
thanks! The nozzle is a bit larger than the previous model but the needle is the same size.
What’s with the support strap Mark?
Hey Cyril- it's called a drawing glove. Basically a light fabric glove with 3 fingers cut out. They are mainly used for drawing tablets. I've been testing them out on a canvas so that my hand doesn't rest of the painting. I usually use a piece of paper to lean on but I'm starting to like using the glove.
I really like your videos.
I think you might like the Iwata Revolution HP-BR, with its small cup, 0.3 nozzle, and low air speed.
thanks, I just love the iwata revolution. I find myself reaching for it more and more. I'll have to check out the HP-BR because I'm a huge fan of smaller cups. Thank you for the suggestion!
Can I buy it in Amazon? Seems like the version of this brush sell in the US is different: It doesnt have the handle cut, neither the trigger back regulator. I want the one you show in this video :(
The one on amazon is the older model. I bought it from Harder & Steenbeck website, but it was shipped from Germany. A company called Spraygunner is a good place to buy airbrushes in the US. I use them all the time!
@@theartworkshop Thank you so much! Im gonna buy it from Spraygunner, I already visited their website, and placed an order. By the way, do you have any discount code? :)
Regards!
Hi from France dude ! Thx for yout awesome works ! Im looking for a New airbrush ! I do my class on the HS ultra but im feel limited. I hésitate between the évolution and the Iwata high performance HP bp. Thats for miniature painting. I wanna make some précision stuff. Whats your choice ?
Thanks so much! Both are awesome airbrushes and either one is great for miniature painting. You can't go wrong with either of them.
@@theartworkshop thx for the response. Sure they are ! But if you have to chose one to make précision (0,20 Is ok for me) stuff what do you take ? 100€ more for Iwata is for a reason ? Some ppl tells me to go Iwata for the quality of fabrication (Iwata is for life) and quality working of thé airbrush. Other ppl tells me évolution Is more friendly user, cheaper Price and do the same jobs. Im pretty Lost. Thx again for yout réponse and your awesome chanel.
@@mitsui76 Well both are airbrushes that will last for many many years if you take care for them. Here is the US, the Iwata HP-B cost me $170 and the Evolution 24 (2in1) cost me $245. The iwata is actually less money than the evolution and I find it to be a great value. I love the iwata HP-B but I wouldn't pay more than $200 for it. If the H&S Evolution is 100€ less, than that's the airbrush I would choose. The evo24 is an awesome airbrush to paint with and I'm sure you'll love it. Hope this was helpful!
@@theartworkshop woaw that Price !!! There Iwata is 280euros and harder is about 140 euros ! Transport and tax surely ! Iwata for US and harder for european so hahahah ! Thanks you a lot dude
@@mitsui76 go with that H&S Evo!! Great price at 140- you're going to love it. It's just an amazing airbrush. all the best to you!
Well, i am sold - gotta have one! :)
It's a beaut! I've been working with it a lot the past month or so and it's a fun one to paint with. I'm sure you'll love it too.
@@theartworkshop lets hope, because now its ordered :) cant wait.
sorry i am new to airbrushes i ve seen the ultra 2024 and i was wondering what does this one have and ultra doesn't that makes it double the price because from this review i can only see what this one is missing compared to ultra. i only see that u can fit 2ml and 5ml cup on this one and i dont know if u can fit 2ml on ultra i think not and this one has that knob at the back to control the travel and paint quantity which ultra made it easier with the 5 steps knob at the middle of the airbrush. apart from these i cant see any differences and i wonder why would pay double for this one. i am not ironic i am just trying to understand what this one has on top of ultra that makes it double the price
Professional Airbrush users say the Evolution trigger is softer than the ultra, they say the 2024 ultra trigger is too hard
I am new to airbrush, and I paint miniatures. Personally, I am having trouble deciding what airbrush to go with. Any suggestions? For a budget that is no issue I just want an airbrush that will work well and I can grow my skills with, and will last.
The new 2024 Harder and Steenbeck Ultra is a great brush to learn with. The way it is setup will teach you how to airbrush. Another benefit is the Harder and Steenbeck range for most of the models (including Ultra) allow you to mix and match nozzle/needle sets.
lots of great options! this new evolution is pretty awesome, especially the 2in1 because it literally sprays like 2 different airbrushes. Another great choice is the iwata eclipse hp-cs (which is my favorite airbrush). If budget isn't an issue I'd recommend going with a high end brand like iwata or harder and steenbeck since they've been around forever and are loved by many. Hope this helpful and best of luck to you.
100% agree, the new ultra 2024 is great choice as well! @@Puckerization
Depends on where you live I would say. I was strongly eyeing Iwata and CSI Creos, but here in germany these two brands are noticably more expensive then in the US. I picked H&S since they are a bit cheaper than overseas (payed 190€ for the Evo 24 including shipping and tax vs 130 for any Creos or 180 for an Iwata), replacement parts are also easier to get and cheaper compared to the japanese brands.
Since H&S belongs to Iwata I guess that is by design, so look out for regional pricing and availability differences to find your sweetspot
Iwata is undisputed king; the Eclipse is their workhorse AB. GSI Greos/Procon Boy is an amazing alternative (PS-289 is the 0.3mm nozzle I believe). Badger in the USA makes some solid model priming options(Patriot)
The new Sparmax MAX35, SP20x etc are supposed to be very similar to the mid range iwata according to The Air Space
after seeing your review about the new ultra and i orederer one as i have never owed a HS AB
Exactly 5:44 I can't get mine off without pliers. Completely sealed shut. 3 of us couldn't unscrew it. Now I'm afraid to do it.
the needle chucking nut? Sometimes paint gets around these parts and makes them difficult to remove. Do you have some soft jaw pliers to give yourself some grip to loosen it up? Regular pliers will mar the finish unless you wrap it with something. Just a reminder- never use these to tighten anything down on an airbrush. Hand tight only!
@@theartworkshop yep the soft nose worked great. It was new out of the box and tight as hell. Can't wait to start painting. My other issue was hose compatibility. My 1/8 just screwed onto my old Iwata. This one comes with a quick connect which I've never really needed. When you remove the quick connect my hose seems to fit snug until you turn on the compressor. Then any movement of the hose results in air loss through the gasket in the head of the hose. It's weird. But now I'm waiting for my female side of the quick connect. Then I'm in business
You sound like Christian Bale doing an Amerircan accent. Fantastic review.. I want one of these, seems like a solid all-rounder airbrush for a beginner.
haha thanks so much!
I had a crappy master airbrush, upgraded to an evolution in 2021, but it’s been a nightmare compared to the master. It clogs and spits constantly since day 1, paint seems to get caught in the bottom of the paint cup no matter what I do or how much I thin paints. I’m going to try an iwata and see if it was just manufacturing defects or something, but not super impressed with my H&S experience.
sonho de consumo em 2024.
of course it's nicely made...it's from Germany 🇩🇪. I got a cheap airbrush from Amazon but i want to replace it with the this one. thank you !!! :)
I'm waiting for infinity 2024
I'll just put the infinity nozzle and needle into the evolution.
Just to clarify...the .28 head uses a .20 needle , the same goes for the .45 head which uses a .40 needle.
that's correct!
@@theartworkshop I have the .15 nozzle/needle set arriving soon. It will be interesting to see how works with the 2024 Evo.
I'm sure it's going to be awesome. I'll eventually try that out but have been really happy with that .28 setup!@@Puckerization
Thanks for another excellent airbrush review!
@@Puckerization Works fine. There isn't much difference between H&S brushes at the front end beyond the nozzle and needle so if you put a .15 into an evolution you essentially have an Infinity.
yeah ❤❤❤❤
if you update your 10 best airbrushes, Where is Evolution 2024???
not sure but pretty high up there!
Two complete airbrushes with the different nozzle sizes would be ten times as convenient. Don't ever pay more than $25 for an airbrush.
If it's anything like the ultra I wouldn't bother 😔 I thought they were crap and very overpriced and rated my iwata is a lot better