If he was given medical leave the accident would have just happened at a later date. You don't just post pone something as severe as schizophrenia without treatment without consequences. It requires medication and unfortunately the reason why no pilot would want to go on that medication is side effects. The only way this was avoidable was if the airline did psych evaluation like they do now because of air France which happened so many years later it boggles the mind why mental health for so many industries wasn't taken more seriously after this flight but the answer it was taboo especially for men and culture for far too long. My heart goes out too all those who lost loved ones.
You are absolutely correct. From my experience, the mental health aspects of pilots was and perhaps still is not appreciated and handled in an appropriate manner.
@henrymcmiller2527 I believe so but the approach the FAA take is not one shared by every airline. Western nations are the safest as we do communicate better today about mental health then we did 20 years ago but doesn't mean it isn't flawed.
This accident reminds me of Asiana Airlines flight 214, and British Airways flight 38 both crashed during the final approach. But a/w this incident is new to me, and the video is great. I have already subscribed to your channel.
Usually people with mental troubles will do anything to hide the problem from a wider audience, with all the stigma still associated with it. With the pilot monitoring feeling the pilot in command is a bit off, he must have already been in impending acute psychosis. Tragic.
This is especially true in Japan, where mental illnesses are often treated as a weakness/failing of the person, rather than a condition needing psychotherapy, even now. It's entirely possible that the captain felt that he had to prove he was fit for duty, because to say he was experiencing psychological distress would be potentially damning not only for his career, but how people would see him.
@@Mokiefraggle In his state I don't think psychotherapy would have been sufficient, with his previously evident paranoia and delusions associated with it. It would have to be antipsychotic medication which would certainly lead to at least a career hiatus.
@@mattilindstrom Oh, absolutely. However, given the cultural stigma regarding such things, it's entirely likely that it would've taken an act of god to get the level of mental health care to get him the diagnosis to get proper meds. Even getting therapy is often stigmatized in Japanese culture, which would've likely hindered his ability to get treatment beyond that.
I graduated high school in 1982 and remember a couple water landings near airports around that time, in the news. There was one in Hong Kong and another in San Francisco. JAL were still flying DC8’s in ‘82 - I remember seeing on the news when United retired its last DC-8 in ‘89 or ‘90! This incident must have been so frustrating for everyone involved - perfect weather conditions at the start of a new day, well maintained and solid aircraft, but a very sick Captain in command.
I would be totally honest, would I have my commercial pilot license and a career, I would also try to hide my illness for as long as possible, because I wouldn't know what else to do. If you know how competitive pretty much any field of work was at the time, you know exactly what I'm talking about. This is not like today, that kind of problem was the of your career, and the humiliation that goes with it, which reminds me of another "accident" that happened because of the same problem, in which case the pilot was also not ready to accept the end of his career. In a similar disciplined society, where status is important, Germanwings, which is a company of Luftansa in France.
Rip to the 24 that died this was just tragic in every way but I hope the captain got the help he needed as he was clearly unwell but kudos to the Co pilot & the other crew for doing all they could but yeah their airline definitely needed to be held accountable for their part
Agreed. The trick is to understand the mental health of pilots and find a solution for their illness. Crew Resource Management (CRM) does help the situation to a degree, but further understanding and application is needed.
Typical some thing always goes wrong on a mc Douglas plane that get hundred of people killed. It’s a miracle no one died back in 1970 when cabin door blew out. However when this happened again in 1972 ever one was killed not even the crew survived. Douglas’s luck eventually ran out they were sued into oblivion.
The DC-8's reverse thrust can be deployed in flight on the two inside engines, allowing pilots to quickly descend, reduce speed, and increase their rate of descent.
I saw a video of passengers being taken out of the fuselage of the wrecked plane and they were all wearing lifejackets.They had been told to put them on and inflate them before the crash.I always thought you had to wait until you had left the aircraft before inflation as a plane full of people wearing bulky garments like these would impede everyone.Is this not the case?
Yes it is plus once it’s inflated if water starts to enter the plane you will rise to the top and possibly die if water goes up to the ceiling you’re stuck and will probably drown😢
This is the most INSANE AND CRAZY AIRLINE INCIDENT I have ever seen on these shows..... REALLY. THIS COULD HAVE BEEN THE PLOT FOR A TELEVISION SHOW DRAMA starring William Shatner as pilot. LOL!!!
This tragedy reminds me of the terrible suicide of F/O Andreas Lubitz who has deliberately crashed an Airbus A320 from the German airline German Wings - a part of Lufthansa in France! All people have died in this tragedy there! - You also could make a video of this incident here! - May all the people who have died here rest in peace and harmony in heaven!
I know each country has their values and their own beliefs. But It's crazy how mental health wasn't part of the equation. Until much later.... As a business owner, I want to know if my employees are good before I lend them my very expensive vehicle. Assuming things can lead to unrecoverable mistakes. Ploblems in the air are a lot harder to correct, especially if it's a large plane. You dont need that much intelligence to know this. It's so crazy that airlines are still making basic mistakes that lead to horrible outcomes in 2024!! Cheaping out with any mechanical equipment always leads to failure. This is not new.... The pursuit of money lowers the IQ of so many brilliant people. it's unfortunate....
We have to check if this wasnt the first time ever an Airline pilot had a mental breakdown that ended in tragedy. If it wasn't the first case, then i'm with you.
"...less than a minute later, it smoothly ascended into the sunlit sky..." GADS. How bout "The plane took off"? "It seemed the airport was within reach of all passengers and crew." I guess they're assuring us that the passengers and crew were together; A 10-minute story is stretched to 21 minutes with redundancies and totally unnecessary flowery embellishments. BORING!!!
i dont agree with the verdict during the trial..!! he is sane 100% sane...! he knows what he's doing ... he even removed his uniform and was the first with the first ones that were rescued... he even said he's an office worker...!! Where's the insanity in those actuons...!??
Lmao dude for real. I get it helps and can cut back on your workload but do they even check what they are saying? They add irrelevant verbs and adjectives to sentences that do not need them. They basically repeat the same sentence either exactly the same 40 seconds later or slightly different. Or you get the dumbest shi I have EVER heard “oh my god what’s happening? This isn’t the airport”! What the fuck, way to take a tragic story and make it sound like a joke
The lead flight attendant tried to contact the cockpit in the 15 seconds this started? No he didn’t. No sane person would do that, hmm something is wrong I better add another distraction for the pilots who are already dealing with a problem he would have no idea of. And lmfao…..just lmfao. “Oh my god what’s happening? This isn’t the airport”…… lmfao dude what????? No one said that, and no one would say that. Unless it’s a terrible English translation of Japanese, no one actually said that
Der Kapitän war während des ganzen Fluges geistig auffällig der erste Offizier und flugingineur tragen die volle Verantwortung sie hätten damit rechnen müssen 😡
Airplanes cannot be put in reverse thrust in the air. And just because the first officer didn't report the captain for overbanking the plane, the airline should still know about it by checking flight data recorded by maintenance and ATC.
Not entirely correct. The DC-8’s thrust reversers were almost unique. Not only was it possible to do it, but the plane was certified for in flight thrust reverser use. The thrust reversers on the two inboard engines were designed to be used as a braking system to reduce airspeed quickly. They could be deployed and retracted on those two engines only in flight. This was an actual design feature. The problem with this crash was not so much that he deployed them at all, as it was where in the flight envelope he did it. Down low under 600 feet with the engines back to idle the FO did not have enough time for the engines to spool back up, or enough height to trade for airspeed to overcome the drag. If they had been higher it would have been survivable. Just retract the reversers, nose down like you do in a stall and increase power. But just moments from touchdown he didn’t have what he needed.
Gotta love when people think they know about something just because they’ve heard that about modern planes. We’re talking almost forty years ago. The Lauda crash changed a lot of things but All 4 engines on a DC8 can go into reverse in flight with gear handle up: #2 & #3 at anytime and limited to idle reverse. With the gear handle down: #2 & #3 have full reverse available and #1 & #4 have idle reverse available. Nose gear compression releases the gear interlock and makes full reverse available to all engines. This plane absolutely could have reverse thrusters deployed during flight at the time of this incident. The only thing I don’t know is if after 1991 Lauda accident if the way the dc8 reverse worked was changed? 🤷♂️ but the previous comment is on point
Yes, but that wasn't intentional, the crew lost situational awareness. That aircraft was almost brand new and was recovered from the bay, repaired and flew for many years after.
The fact he ditched his uniform and pretended to be just a passenger seems to suggest he knew exactly what he was doing.
RIP
To the 24 passengers and crew of Japan Air Lines Flight 350
Ironic he has the relapse minutes before landing . The people in charge are sharp as a bowling ball
A Paranoid Schizophrenic . More recently the GERMAN WINGS accident comes to mind .
This happened with the German Wings airline and all were lost when a first pilot locked out the pilot. Similar to JAP 350
New subscriber! You did a wonderful job ! Thank you!
If he was given medical leave the accident would have just happened at a later date. You don't just post pone something as severe as schizophrenia without treatment without consequences. It requires medication and unfortunately the reason why no pilot would want to go on that medication is side effects. The only way this was avoidable was if the airline did psych evaluation like they do now because of air France which happened so many years later it boggles the mind why mental health for so many industries wasn't taken more seriously after this flight but the answer it was taboo especially for men and culture for far too long. My heart goes out too all those who lost loved ones.
You are absolutely correct. From my experience, the mental health aspects of pilots was and perhaps still is not appreciated and handled in an appropriate manner.
Did they do psych tests after the plane crashed into the Atlantic Ocean?
@henrymcmiller2527 I believe so but the approach the FAA take is not one shared by every airline. Western nations are the safest as we do communicate better today about mental health then we did 20 years ago but doesn't mean it isn't flawed.
"water was about 1meter" the later on "submerged" then a clip from the plane barely wet.
This is still very much an issue unfortunately.
This accident reminds me of Asiana Airlines flight 214, and British Airways flight 38 both crashed during the final approach. But a/w this incident is new to me, and the video is great. I have already subscribed to your channel.
Great vid . Many thanks .
Great video I am a new subscriber thx for efforts looking forward to more never heard of this one and watch a lot! Thx
What a tragic story. Great video, thank you
Can you please at least use the correct airplane type in the thumbnail? That thing is some kind of AvGeek's nightmare.
Why is the 35 year old pilot actually 45? You get a thumbs down only because they don’t give us a middle finger emoji
Emotional 😭 We will never forget. Thank you for sharing this sad video. Condolences to the families and friends. Rip Amen. 🙏.
Usually people with mental troubles will do anything to hide the problem from a wider audience, with all the stigma still associated with it. With the pilot monitoring feeling the pilot in command is a bit off, he must have already been in impending acute psychosis. Tragic.
This is especially true in Japan, where mental illnesses are often treated as a weakness/failing of the person, rather than a condition needing psychotherapy, even now. It's entirely possible that the captain felt that he had to prove he was fit for duty, because to say he was experiencing psychological distress would be potentially damning not only for his career, but how people would see him.
@@Mokiefraggle In his state I don't think psychotherapy would have been sufficient, with his previously evident paranoia and delusions associated with it. It would have to be antipsychotic medication which would certainly lead to at least a career hiatus.
@@mattilindstrom Oh, absolutely. However, given the cultural stigma regarding such things, it's entirely likely that it would've taken an act of god to get the level of mental health care to get him the diagnosis to get proper meds. Even getting therapy is often stigmatized in Japanese culture, which would've likely hindered his ability to get treatment beyond that.
HOW SAD
I graduated high school in 1982 and remember a couple water landings near airports around that time, in the news. There was one in Hong Kong and another in San Francisco. JAL were still flying DC8’s in ‘82 - I remember seeing on the news when United retired its last DC-8 in ‘89 or ‘90! This incident must have been so frustrating for everyone involved - perfect weather conditions at the start of a new day, well maintained and solid aircraft, but a very sick Captain in command.
I would be totally honest, would I have my commercial pilot license and a career, I would also try to hide my illness for as long as possible, because I wouldn't know what else to do. If you know how competitive pretty much any field of work was at the time, you know exactly what I'm talking about. This is not like today, that kind of problem was the of your career, and the humiliation that goes with it, which reminds me of another "accident" that happened because of the same problem, in which case the pilot was also not ready to accept the end of his career. In a similar disciplined society, where status is important, Germanwings, which is a company of Luftansa in France.
Rip to the 24 that died this was just tragic in every way but I hope the captain got the help he needed as he was clearly unwell but kudos to the Co pilot & the other crew for doing all they could but yeah their airline definitely needed to be held accountable for their part
Agreed. The trick is to understand the mental health of pilots and find a solution for their illness. Crew Resource Management (CRM) does help the situation to a degree, but further understanding and application is needed.
@@XRP747E indeed
Excellent job! Very entertaining!!! I just subscribed to you!
Typical some thing always goes wrong on a mc Douglas plane that get hundred of people killed. It’s a miracle no one died back in 1970 when cabin door blew out. However when this happened again in 1972 ever one was killed not even the crew survived. Douglas’s luck eventually ran out they were sued into oblivion.
how can captain deploy thrust reversers without the wheels on ground safety engaged???
The DC-8's reverse thrust can be deployed in flight on the two inside engines, allowing pilots to quickly descend, reduce speed, and increase their rate of descent.
Giving two languages at the same time is distracting. Interesting story. A new one for me.
I saw a video of passengers being taken out of the fuselage of the wrecked plane and they were all wearing lifejackets.They had been told to put them on and inflate them before the crash.I always thought you had to wait until you had left the aircraft before inflation as a plane full of people wearing bulky garments like these would impede everyone.Is this not the case?
Yes it is plus once it’s inflated if water starts to enter the plane you will rise to the top and possibly die if water goes up to the ceiling you’re stuck and will probably drown😢
3:37 - Why do you say he was 35 when it says he was 45?
This is the most INSANE AND CRAZY AIRLINE INCIDENT I have ever seen on these shows..... REALLY. THIS COULD HAVE BEEN THE PLOT FOR A TELEVISION SHOW DRAMA starring William Shatner as pilot. LOL!!!
😢 yeah mate, hilarious eh😢
This tragedy reminds me of the terrible suicide of F/O Andreas Lubitz who has deliberately crashed an Airbus A320 from the German airline German Wings - a part of Lufthansa in France! All people have died in this tragedy there! - You also could make a video of this incident here! - May all the people who have died here rest in peace and harmony in heaven!
Dang these sfx be craycray.
It shouldn’t be possible to put the reverse engines to be put into that configuration until landing
I know each country has their values and their own beliefs. But It's crazy how mental health wasn't part of the equation. Until much later.... As a business owner, I want to know if my employees are good before I lend them my very expensive vehicle. Assuming things can lead to unrecoverable mistakes. Ploblems in the air are a lot harder to correct, especially if it's a large plane. You dont need that much intelligence to know this. It's so crazy that airlines are still making basic mistakes that lead to horrible outcomes in 2024!! Cheaping out with any mechanical equipment always leads to failure. This is not new.... The pursuit of money lowers the IQ of so many brilliant people. it's unfortunate....
We have to check if this wasnt the first time ever an Airline pilot had a mental breakdown that ended in tragedy.
If it wasn't the first case, then i'm with you.
Skylar: where did you learn to fly?
Good video
"...less than a minute later, it smoothly ascended into the sunlit sky..." GADS. How bout "The plane took off"? "It seemed the airport was within reach of all passengers and crew." I guess they're assuring us that the passengers and crew were together; A 10-minute story is stretched to 21 minutes with redundancies and totally unnecessary flowery embellishments. BORING!!!
i dont agree with the verdict during the trial..!!
he is sane 100% sane...!
he knows what he's doing ... he even removed his uniform and was the first with the first ones that were rescued... he even said he's an office worker...!! Where's the insanity in those actuons...!??
That's why ex-military pilot should not fly commercial.
How do you "submerge" an airliner in 1 meter of water?
He was given a year holiday for his depression 😅😅 wth
you need a real person doing the voice
Lmao dude for real. I get it helps and can cut back on your workload but do they even check what they are saying? They add irrelevant verbs and adjectives to sentences that do not need them. They basically repeat the same sentence either exactly the same 40 seconds later or slightly different. Or you get the dumbest shi I have EVER heard “oh my god what’s happening? This isn’t the airport”! What the fuck, way to take a tragic story and make it sound like a joke
@@TheKsipiora Agree it makes it unwatchable for me sometimes
As usual, fake video clips, fake photos, fake everything regarding Japan Airlines Flight 350. Bite click.
Its olso a reminders to us dont lets person with mental issues flying a planes.
The lead flight attendant tried to contact the cockpit in the 15 seconds this started? No he didn’t. No sane person would do that, hmm something is wrong I better add another distraction for the pilots who are already dealing with a problem he would have no idea of.
And lmfao…..just lmfao. “Oh my god what’s happening? This isn’t the airport”…… lmfao dude what????? No one said that, and no one would say that. Unless it’s a terrible English translation of Japanese, no one actually said that
Der Kapitän war während des ganzen Fluges geistig auffällig der erste Offizier und flugingineur tragen die volle Verantwortung sie hätten damit rechnen müssen 😡
It’s always Japan airlines
People who are that insane really need Jesus.
Spare us the drama
Airplanes cannot be put in reverse thrust in the air. And just because the first officer didn't report the captain for overbanking the plane, the airline should still know about it by checking flight data recorded by maintenance and ATC.
Not entirely correct. The DC-8’s thrust reversers were almost unique. Not only was it possible to do it, but the plane was certified for in flight thrust reverser use. The thrust reversers on the two inboard engines were designed to be used as a braking system to reduce airspeed quickly. They could be deployed and retracted on those two engines only in flight. This was an actual design feature. The problem with this crash was not so much that he deployed them at all, as it was where in the flight envelope he did it. Down low under 600 feet with the engines back to idle the FO did not have enough time for the engines to spool back up, or enough height to trade for airspeed to overcome the drag. If they had been higher it would have been survivable. Just retract the reversers, nose down like you do in a stall and increase power. But just moments from touchdown he didn’t have what he needed.
Gotta love when people think they know about something just because they’ve heard that about modern planes. We’re talking almost forty years ago. The Lauda crash changed a lot of things but All 4 engines on a DC8 can go into reverse in flight with gear handle up: #2 & #3 at anytime and limited to idle reverse. With the gear handle down: #2 & #3 have full reverse available and #1 & #4 have idle reverse available. Nose gear compression releases the gear interlock and makes full reverse available to all engines.
This plane absolutely could have reverse thrusters deployed during flight at the time of this incident. The only thing I don’t know is if after 1991 Lauda accident if the way the dc8 reverse worked was changed? 🤷♂️ but the previous comment is on point
So basically, the captain suffered zero consequences 4 his actions.
He had a mental breakdown not exactly something that can be helped
@@Neteyam-kt5hpExactly! BTW, you spelled mental brakedown wrong.
@AceNinja2112 lol I know I just saw that as I did this on my phone I think the auto thing changed it lol ill have to change it later lol
@@AceNinja2112 no he didn't you did. a brake is in your car.
When the pilot becomes the hijacker.
Another fish eye vid
what a freak
Didnt this happen in SFO also with JAL?
Yes, but that wasn't intentional, the crew lost situational awareness. That aircraft was almost brand new and was recovered from the bay, repaired and flew for many years after.
yes you right
It was not JAL. Asiana?
Im talking 60s on a DC-8 also. Anyway was just a memory.
All tis mental issue actualy come from drug n alcohol
Crass American cheesy content. Just tell the story. Don't fill it with faff.
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