I am writing this at just turning 70 years old. When I was 25, I was kidnapped and raped by a knife toting stranger. Later, when I was brought to the hospital, there was a grad student working on a grant that studied rape victims and their female family members for several years. She was with me through the rape kit, etc. and helped me get hospitalized when I became suicidal a few weeks later. If not for her, I'm not sure what would have happened. So, Shawn, please know that what you do has such a positive LONG lasting effect on our lives. I don't know you, but I love you for all you do. Thank you for your strength.
I am so sorry that you went through such a traumatic experience, but I am SO glad that you found the strength to be here with us for another 45 years, and I pray that there are many more ❤ may they be happy, healthy, loving years
Look up the case of of baby Brianna. She was born Valentine's Day. She was only 5 months. I'm sure there's worse but that has been the worst case thus far. Short from a satanic ritual. Demons and the evil are real. Why? Because we have an angel like her sitting and telling her story. The one that gave birth to her served just 13 years of the 27. She's out living her life.
Thank you for your work. I felt so much like that in my 35 years as Woman Child RN. I started in L&D then Nursery 2 (Drug Baby Nursery) to NICU. I always dedicated my shift to God. I really hoped the parents could feel at least moments of being seen and heard. So many of them I liked, and I lived the babies.
me too. But I really doubt it, There aren't many who can give on that level . So the world is stretched thin on servants. God puts them where He needs them. Typically I think they just need normalcy
The way Mark said "that must be hard" and she turns it back around on him "well same as what you do, you hear things all day...". What a humble, compassionate human. Impossible to imagine the stories and awful things some people have to hold regularly. She is a Saint!
I hope she's getting therapy. I worry a bit about care givers, cuz who takes care of them? When i was in a case profession, i was on my own. I lasted 10 yrs.
You're treated my daughter. You an angel. I really don't know how we could have made it through without you. God bless you forever. God bless you forever. We will never forget you, we will never stop giving thanks for your presence. I'm sorry this comes at great personal expense to you 🫂❤️🙏 She's happy and adjusted well since then and you played a great part in her healing. Thank YOU forever.
Wow...just wow...I knew this was an amazing woman but your comment just proved what everyone is thinking....Shawn is literally an angel and I am so sorry that you had to meet her under those circumstances but thank God you did.
I was trafficked for three months as a homeless teenager after being abandonded by my parents in a parking lot. I had no parental figure nor no one to run to or be protected by and still don't besides my husband 5 years later. The nurse that dealt with me and treated me (for the first time) like a human being, I will never forget her. She was the first adult I had cried in front of without a butt-whooping or being screamed at. I was at my breaking point with no education, malnourished and full of hatred and in that moment, that nurse made my life worth living. I would give anything to see her again just for an hour. Thank you for everything you forensic nurses do, it inspired my journey to become an EMT to also help people
Sending lots of love to you. ❤ It's amazing how sometimes brief contact witha person can affect our life profoundly. I'm so glad you came across that nurse that day, after all you'd been through. Take good care. 💕
Brave you went in dirección to help others. Proud for you. Yes its not easy to feel vulnerable. Praise and thanksgiving to God for your perseverance. Abrazo
As a forensic nurse, I am so glad that they featured you on this channel, so many people have no idea that we even exist. I also see patients from birth to end of life, but not once deceased. I feel ya on the never ending on call, and vicarious trauma 100%, self-care is so important for us just as it is for our patients. I so appreciate your candidness. Forensics is certainly a calling and not for everyone ❤ -Sheree (SANE nurse manager, Ohio)
i sympathize with her, and admire her fortitude. usually the very first contact is an EMT/Firefighter. if you don't know what an impact a hurt child has on them, google up the photo of the firefighter carrying the body of the toddler out of the wreckage of the murrow bldg's daycare center in OKC. there was no support network. i hope there is one for folks in her line of work. first responders are in the nationwide top in suicides.
@@em1osmurfsadly, a lot of health care workers don't seek out help. Nurse here. Concerned about impact on license which is ridiculous. Covid changed things a bit. More healthcare willing to ask for help/support and not care about possible discrimination from management.
“Mommy said it was my fault because of the nightgown I was wearing” broke my heart. You can tell Shawn is the right person for this job she is amazing and you can tell she cares for every single one of her patients. This is one of the best interviews Soft White Underbelly has ever done. It was amazingly done
I’ve worked with this amazing woman, let me say this…she along with all the other nurses at her facility are absolute angels! I loathed working these horrific crimes, but these women do these all day everyday! Such a special group of humans…and yes Shawn is a very tough woman!
God bless you and her for your hard work! Your strength is amazing I never realized that was a job but with that said you angels for what you do and how you help the victims!❤
I'm really pleased Shawn is able to tangibly see the respect, honor & love people feel for her as a result of her strength & compassion in performing her duties. The self proclaimed tough nurse is a gentle & empathetic victim advocate. God bless her.
My husband asks why I watch your channel but I learn so much about why people are why they are and do what they do... Gives me so much compassion and awareness. ❤
My husband asks me the same question... watching the videos helps me see people with different eyes, it helps me be more accepting, understanding, more compassionate, more connected and more human I think.
My partner asked it too and I think it's important to hear all these voices when they belong to people at worst children, people who maybe live next door and want to be heard, maybe even before these terrible things happen.
What strength ? She's lying. I don't believe her. She's never had a patient that was 35 "days" old. That sounds more like a vindictive woman making up a BS story about a new born in order for (her) obtain full custody of the baby.
I'm a retired Labor/Delivery RN. I have had many fetal demises during my 40+ years of nursing. I must say, even though it was difficult it was a privilege to help parents through this difficult time. We were taught to take special photos of the babies , and foot and hand prints for the family. Most of the families appreciated these small memories of their sweet baby. I don't think a nurse should ever be left alone while having to take care of her first fetal demise.
When the topic came up of fetal demise, my mind went back to the Christmas Day when my baby boy was born still. It was sudden, due to incompetent cervix, and we were absolutely devastated. When I asked the ER nurse if my baby would live, she cringed and said she was "allergic to miscarriages," but the L&D nurses were wonderful. I treasure the photos and foot- and handprints, a quarter century later. They even found a pretty elegant white cardboard box to take him home in. It inspired me to work as an RN in L&D for a time.
speaking of fetal demise when i had my oldest daughter i seen this one nurse in the nursery at Ravenswood hospital when i went to check up on my baby she was in tears and she told me one baby was lost in delivery i still cry thinking about this
Dear Shawn , I am a physician. Keep painting those rocks...u are a brave, tremendously helpful person. Everything worth knowing, I learned from nurses.❤❤❤
@@birdsndog5819I have said many times "if you are not going to at least listen to me, then why am I here!??" I don't have a problem being wrong but tell me why my thinking is off so I can learn. I don't know it all, teach me.
Me too. My mom literally didn't believe, then blamed me for adultery, and then getting pregnant three months later w my abuser while I was still recovering after being hospitalized. My revenge? - I insisted on having a voice, got an education, taught, and ended up as a uni prof + wrote 250+ columns about women's rights and other things close to my heart. I wish someone would have treated me with the kindness and compassion that this bad ass woman with the biggest heart has.
You could see and feel just how much she was holding in the tears and anguish she feels because of what she sees and hears but chooses to continue to be there for her patients. She's an angel and a hero! Sorry that you are needed but thank you for what you do!
Yes they are. It's a shame humanity essentially values entertainers, in other words just another form of pleasure seeking, over the people that matter most. Only celebrity and those that keep them well is met with the most admiration and security in life. Yet the same people will condemn the addicts for comforting themselves in the way they know how. I'm referring to the multi millions of dollars and the countless admiration athletes and other entertainers receive in compensation. This woman takes on countless hours, days, weeks, and years of trauma. Where are her accolades? I'm glad she spoke here. I didn't know of forensic nursing or what it entails either.
We're out here. After 25 years of Nursing & abuse & diagnosed with PTSD myself, other people will have to take over. Good luck finding nurses like us ❤ We need YOU to perform in the community, too.
I was one of those ER nurses who had to read the Rape kit instructions so I could do everything right! I was so glad when the Nurse Examiner showed up ,I knew they were in good hands and they had more time to spend with the patient and knew how to treat them emotionally, God bless you!
Her posture throughout the interview tells you how much she has taken on due to her job and she is comforting herself as she natrates the horror of her day to day job. As a fellow RN who worked in hospice, oncology, ICU and now mental health, nursing is a calling. Hats off to ppl like Shawn and all who passionately care!!
Kudos to you too, Ive got a huge appreciation and respect for nurses many of my friends are RNs and after some local tragedies i know theyve been on call for i just cant imagine. I always be sure to thank my nurses any time I'm having a procedure. Er, even reg Dr visit every time they enter and leave the room doing something for me. I had my second son 10 weeks early and was admitted on bedrest in hospital for about 4 weeks before they did the c section and even the days I'd have the not so great nurses I just thought of exactly why she may not be in a great mood what she could've seen or been through that day or prior , maybe someone lost a baby, I didn't know so I wasn't one to start any complaint or whatever like I know some would've. I'd see how hard they'd still be busting their asses to help me and my baby and keep him in there and safe through whatever they were dealing with and made sure to be extra patient and nice to them. I had some super amazing ones who would take me outside and down to the atrium to get some good food and snacks when my fiance and family couldn't visit since he was home with our then 4 yr old and 2 hrs away from the hospital. I'll never forget the one nicu nurse named Mel she was my absolute fav person I met during my total 6weeks and my sons 4 weeks nicu. She was the sweetest most kind patient and helpful nurse I've ever experienced and she was Def in the right place being in the nicu with such fragile babies and scared parents my youngest is 10 now but I must think of Mel a few times a week still! I'm so thankful she was my nurse, I've been wanting to mail a letter down with a picture to the nicu since it's been 10 years but I'm not sure any of the nurses are even still there lol I'm sure some are
@@KT06 Write the letter. Chances are good that someone will still be there 10 years later. NICUs often have nurses and other staff who stay there until they retire. Even if there isn't any of the same people there, somebody will read it who appreciates it and needs to read something positive.
It's the biggest burden but the incredibly meaningful if you can keep your bearings and balance a life outside work. - a retired sexual assault detective
Good Luck ❤ Nursing isn't what it was...As a Nurse of 30 years, the establishment & each state Nursing Board are changing laws we won't comply with. Society norms are becoming disgusting ill.
Excellent Shawn. I did this work for only 2 years. Was the hardest nursing role I ever had. I will be sharing this video with nursing professionals whenever I lecture on this topic.
Child of extreme abuse here. I wish you had been involved in my case. I may not have received the help I needed, but hearing your conviction, words, and intentional impact are healing to the wounded child inside. Thank you for airing this episode.
I am so proud of you! You are so brave and worthy of love, protection, peace and comfort! I pray for healing for you and the child inside you! God bless! ❤
Shawn as a fellow RN, you represented yourself, your patients, and the profession in such high regard. Your empathy, compassion, and knowledge poured from your spirit. As nurses, we give so much of ourselves and our families know our sacrifices, but I am so thankful you are a SANE nurse and a fellow human I may come in contact with at any given moment. You are beautiful and I appreciate you. You-Are-Brave. You do make a difference. I hope you have good outlets for self care, that's always a struggle in this field. Much love!
This was a great interview. Shawn is so compassionate and she is definitely in the right profession, however, it seems that she has seen too much and it's weighing very heavily on her. Talk to someone to fix you xo
When I was 18 I was kidnapped and raped by a guy. I remember the fear and helplessness I felt but I mostly remember the nurse that did my rape kit and how safe she made me feel. Thank you Shawn for all you do! I promise your patients will never forget your kindness.
really? Should she be grateful for your God and how he let her down that day? I'll never understand this type of comment. You have no idea what the person you're responding to believes in. Impact, not intent. Seriously.
Having interviewed a rape victim at the ER as a rookie cop was one of the most challenging things I have ever done in my life. Shawn, I cannot imagine doing what you do. Coming from a Combat Veteran witnessing the death of my Soldiers and seeing the worst humans can do to one another as a civilian law enforcement officer. Kudos. I salute you and thank you for all that you do. 🫡 Remember to be kind to yourself. Stay blessed.
I was so transfixed this entire interview. Thank you Shawn, for being vulnerable and sharing so much. Fred Rogers once said ““When I was a boy and I would see scary things in the news, my mother would say to me, ‘Look for the helpers. You will always find people who are helping.’” Thank you for being a helper ❤
My first day as House Supervisor of a hospital, I had to take care of a baby girl that died immediately after delivery. She looked like a beautiful angel. I had to take her to the morgue. I cried off and on all day. Nurses do unimaginable things to save a human’s life and to be with them at death. Retired RN.
Awe hugs Def isn't an easy job being a nurse I wish the nurse I had when I had my still born had more compassionate and caring instead of what they did then because I was losing to much blood I got admitted to the labor delivery floor overnight. But hwvw had some pretty amazing nurses since then especially in the nicu after I had my last 2 Littles.
The fact that she’s holding herself through this whole interview says it all to me. This is a hero in my eyes, thank you for what you do and please take care of yourself - you have a true gift and one amazing soul 💖
"The final stage of healing is when you use what happened to you to help others." Shawn's a real empath and you can see the emotional toll that job takes on her. She's given so much of herself to help others. I think Mark should start a donation fund for her retirement. She deserves it after all she's given. Bless her ❤️
I had a full body exam by a forensic nurse at the age of 9 years old. It was awful!!! And then the charges were dropped AFTER I went through that AND testified in court at 9!!! My own mother dropped the charges!! Thank GOd things are done differently today and the DA will still prosecute regardless and they don’t make children have to go on the stand in court..I was SO traumatized. Thank you for what you do, I could not imagine this job.
Thank you for your kindness everyone. I had counseling as a child but have yet to do EMDR in the future for it, unfortunately it still affects me to this day. I am 47 now.
A nurse like this helped me big time. Many nurses are angels on earth. She went above and beyond, I remember she recommended books to me also like "The Anxiety and Phobia Workbook" by Bourne and "30 Days to Reduce Anxiety" by Harper Daniels...both books together helped me so that was cool of her. She didn't have to do that, nor did she have to listen to me...but she did. If a nurse is reading this...thank you for what you do, and I hope you get some rest this week before you face a lot.
I was forced to live with a convicted pedophile for 14 years of my childhood. It haunts me how differently me and all my siblings turned out. It destroyed my sister. Absolutely ruined her entire life. The rest of us are pretty normal, considering the torment we endured. Thank you for being a normal person who cares enough to show up for these kids. We didn’t have someone like you.
I’m so sorry you and your siblings experienced that, that should never have happened to you. I hope your sister finds some peace as well- it’s true we never know how the same actions will impact people differently.
I just discovered SWU two hours ago and i plan on binge watching every single episode that i can find. Having been homeless myself, i appreciate the dignity given to so many’s stories through these videos. SWU may become the very first TH-cam channel that i subscribe to financially. I believe that much in its message. Thank you for what you’re doing, Mark.
As a female police officer I have seen and talked to a few children in these circumstances but this lady is really standing in the gap! Thank you. Your words mean a world of difference to those in need. Thank you again today and tomorrow ❤️
You really should use your talents elsewhere. Your job will taint you after awhile. Policing is inherently morally compromising. You know what I mean. A nurse I know told me today a cop from town who is married wants to visit her for a "quick one". She is insulted and told him and is now frightened by one of trust in blue.
@@harry1babs I don't think that policing is inherently morally compromising. There are plenty of cops who do their job for the right reasons, in the right way, without corruption or a break in morals. There are also plenty who are not good, who do violate their integrity, but that is because of the people that they are, not because of the job itself.
I was an ER trauma nurse and I was certified SANE. I am very glad that I didn’t stay beyond 15 years in that specialty. I burned out. I have been an RN for 43 years now and PTSD was destroying me. I was in and out of counseling and I was going to crash and burn. I couldn’t do the dead kids anymore. You are amazing Shawn. God’s Grace to you.
Now is the time to take care of yourself. You gave so much of yourself for years. The selfless work you have done has incredibly powerful positive long-lasting effects on the patients and their families that you will never see.
I was a Community Mental Health/ AOD had the gift of knowing my limits.Prior to Covid worked in Disability Services....transferable skills less horizontal violence and easier life.
This woman made me feel so safe in this 49 min interview. I know she's out there doing God's work. I hope she gets peace in her life to cushion the blow of the nastiness she encounters.
I’m a 75 yr old retired ER/ICU nurse and I have always done whatever could be done for patients who had to undergo these examinations, including letting them lean back on me while another nurse or physician. As a victim of familial and acquaintance assault, my first priority was always my patient. (Correction: I felt that way about all of my patients. Good, dedicated nurses are always your advocate above all else, no matter the reason for your admission.) sometimes I had to hold in tears or at least keep them in check as best as I could. I’ve cried oceans on the drive home many days. Yet, I still wish I could be there now, helping them through those difficult steps. Thank you for the work you do and thank you, Mark for the light you shine on these “hidden worlds.” 🙏🏻 Namaste
Child safety officer here- how she talks to the children is perfect!!!! How she sets boundaries with the children and let them know they have control in the situation is just beautiful. We always tell our children its not their fault, they are brave and we go over the body rules (good secrets/bad secrets)
I'm a 30+ year Rn and I cried almost all the way through this. My regular Hospital job was tough, but my God, you are a strong person. Thank you for being there for these vistims and survivors.
I am proud to count this woman a colleague and a friend. Very brave of you Sister, to tell your story and tell all of our stories, those broken and those working to put back together. Love you!
@@forensicnursing70my wife is an NP and I know how hard the field of nursing is in general from years of stories. I taught emotionally disturbed children early in my education career. I have seen the damage first hand as well. Just thank you so much for what you do. You're the very best of humanity.
This woman is stronger than most of us could ever dream of being... but she has such soft compassion, and she is a credit to her field and herself. A true angel on earth xxxx
This is what a hero looks like in flesh and blood. I so admire the people able to do this work, as I cannot. I would collapse in a heap of sobbing tears each night. Anyone who works with abused children has my greatest admiration and respect. My SIL is a CASA (child advocate) volunteer for children in foster care. She doesn’t say much but I hear hints of what ‘her’ kids experience. My heart breaks for them all.
Shawn, if you read this, thank you for finding the courage to come on here to tell us about your career and life. I come to this channel for learning and this was one of the best interviews Mark has done (in my own estimation). We’re a similar age and I so admire your selflessness in the work you do - I couldn’t do it. The world is so much richer for you being in it. Much love, from Down Under in New Zealand.
Dear Shawn, The countless lives that you have helped!!! You are making such a differnence in this world. So thoughtful, kind and compasionate... and an immense inspiration❤ Thank you xo And thank you for taking the time to do this interview. 🌼 🌸 🌻 🌹 🏵
This was incredible. She is a rockstar. This 50 minutes went by so fast. She speaks so eloquently and is so captivating. Her empathy and passion seep from her pores. I’m so encouraged by her & this interview.
As someone from a dysfunctional upbringing and a mental health care worker,this is one of your best interviews. Most people don't understand the magnitude of trauma. Thank you Mark and Shawn.
@@crystalh2211 So true. I’ve been plagued with it my entire adult life. At my age I’ve decided to only do what makes me reasonably comfortable. And these days that includes not leaving my apartment. I’m trying to figure it out. Fingers crossed I guess. I really don’t miss much anymore that I can’t do at home. I leave when my daughter is with me. Stay safe everyone!
I’m a nursing student. This has reignited my passion for helping SA victims. As a victim of CSA myself, I completely resonate with the patients she’s had that blamed themselves. It’s a horrifyingly exhausting feeling. Thank you for this video
I too am a SANE nurse and completely understand the emotions Shawn goes through in caring for these patients. It is a hard but sometimes rewarding job. SANE nurses are taught to give dignity, respect, and privacy back to the patient. We do this by practicing trauma-informed care and genuinely caring for the patients we treat. Kudos to you Shawn...you are a great nurse!
lmao I read a comment before yours talking about being a SANE nurse... I thought it very strange that they were putting such emphasis on their sanity, let alone that they thought it necessary to clarify at all... Now that I'm seeing it again, I realise it's an acronym.😅😂
I love this woman so much! Her heart is huge and she is so genuine and strong! I was assaulted/raped/held against my will by a stranger 34 years ago and I remember the kindness from the nurse during my rape kit exam. The catheter sucks but the encouragement and support telling me I did everything right because I survived. I've never forgotten the kindness and those words spoken helped me survive emotionally and move on in life. I was 23 when it happened and my mother asked me what I was wearing after it happened. I felt insecure to explain jeans and a sweater but the fashion was rips in the jeans and I felt guilty for it. Not anymore tho. Words go a lonnnnnng way with a person.
Same. I was sexually assaulted 2 years ago, and after I was drugged at a bar. A bar I came to for years..I was strangled, beaten, and covered in bruises. The 2 women that came from our local rape crisis center, and the forensic nurse that helped through the exam gave me so much strength. Without them? I couldn't have done it
You are not responsible for any of what happened to you. Nothing. You could walk around stark naked and still no one can say, touch, assault or rape you. You are not at fault. I’m sorry this happened to you.
When she said it hit her a couple days later and Mark quickly responded “me too” I felt a lot of compassion for them both. This world has a lot of darkness and it takes a special kind to consistently dive into it daily all while self preserving. They’re both such beautiful souls.
"Did anyone ever tell you it wasn't your fault?" Had me sobbing at my desk. Shawn has a beautiful compassionate soul that just radiates from her when she speaks. Truly an angel on earth
Gallows humor, black humor is a way of getting through as an emergency worker be5teen colleagues, rhe nurse, the cop. It's in no way disrespectful to individuals or violating privacy or treating things as a joke. Rarely done anywhere near a patient. It's a self--depreciating thing.
I am so moved by Shawn, she reminds me of the Dolly Parton quote “I'll never harden my heart, but I've toughened the muscles around it.” She seems to embodies this balance of strength and compassion. Thank you for your story.
You nailed it when you said it came down to self worth. I’m also an RN. I work bedside. One of many of my most memorable moments is when a patient looked at me and said they were too old to do what they wanted in life and I looked her in the eyes and said “never give up on yourself.” She teared up, I hugged her. Small moments of compassion can be profound. Thank you for treating the victims with compassion and worth.
I’m a behavioral health Tech of 23years, that works with children and adolescents. There are times where I have had to step out of the building and cry because of some of the disgusting things that these poor kids have had to endure. I commend you for your work. You are an Angel. Thank you for treating them with the dignity and respect that they deserve. Thank you! thank you! thank you!
If i had had a nurse like shawn questioning me at 4 years old, instead of a scary big man (detective) about my assault, i feel like it would have diminished my trauma exponentially. I am so happy that she is out here doing this to help victims, especially children. Thank you.
As an RN and childhood SA survivor, I am so proud of this woman and what she does. I also agree that so many of us go into healing fields when we've been on the other end.
This interview touched my heart deeply. This wonderful lady is so precious, the way she overthinks is because she cares so much. I hope she has an amazing family and support network ❤ sending her so much love 🙏🏼💗
I’ve been a therapist for 24 years and it was such a blessing to listen to your interview. To hear a woman who cares so much and realizes she cannot detach if she is going to be the best for the people she cares for! The secondary PTSD is real and I am so thankful you learned to take care of you! Thank you for your work!
What an amazing woman, I'm so glad you interviewed her and shared it with us! I have a feeling this video is going to get over a million views. Shawn, if you're reading through all these comments so far, THANK YOU for giving a part of yourself in order to help others. I hope your faith will lessen the burden of things you have to see and hear. You are so important to this world!!
Mark, the insight you bring to the human condition is intense and immense. A video textbook for people trying to navigate the many mental illnesses and behavioral variables affecting human beings in our society today. Thank you so much.
Dear Shawn, I trust this comment finds you in good health and spirits. As I sat down to write this, I couldn't help but reflect on the powerful impression your recent interview on Soft White Underbelly has left on me. Your words and the stories you shared about your role as a Sexual Assault Nurse Examiner in Northern Indiana were both eye-opening and deeply moving. First and foremost, I want to express my heartfelt gratitude for the vital role you play in supporting survivors of sexual assault and their families. Your dedication to providing care, comfort, and justice to those who have endured such traumatic experiences is truly inspirational. Your interview not only shed light on your profession but also highlighted the incredible strength and resilience you bring to it. One aspect that struck me most profoundly was your unwavering compassion, empathy, and professionalism in handling such sensitive cases. Your ability to connect with survivors and provide them with a safe space for empowerment `and a start at healing is a testament to your exceptional character. It takes a special kind of person to do what you do, and I am filled with gratitude knowing that individuals like you exist to help and support those in need during their darkest hours. Your commitment to making the world a safer and more compassionate place is not just evident; it is a beacon of hope. It's a testament to your unwavering values and the strength of your character. Please understand that your work does not go unnoticed. The impact you have on the community you serve and the countless lives you touch is immeasurable. Your story has resonated deeply with everyone who has had the privilege of hearing it, and I am no exception. In closing, I would like to reiterate my heartfelt thanks, Shawn. Thank you for your selfless service and the profound, positive impact you make on the lives of survivors. Your kindness, expertise, and unwavering resilience are nothing short of remarkable. The world is a better place because of individuals like you who dedicate themselves to making it more compassionate and just. Some professionals know how to share what is being done and what needs to be done. People like You are such God sent because they don’t shut down & become selfish with what is needed t be shared. It’s good for the bones! In addition, I agree with you about the healing of people with God & Jesus. Knowing them is so much more than a “religious” practice and no less! With warm regards and profound gratitude, Susie c
Never have I seen an explanation like this. Shawn was so beautifully transparent and that honesty is so comforting.. and yes, Mark is brilliant at how these interviews are done. Fabulous job on all sides.
To me, there's nothing more beautiful or extraordinary than when someone shines a light in the most horrific and painful situations. Thank you for being an inspiration.
Can you imagine how beautiful the world would be if everyone was as kind, caring and compassionate as this woman is!? She definitely found her calling and she is making a huge difference in so many lives. ❤️
This was one of the best, most tactful interviews I've seen. Major respect for how she illuded to the evil realities, while still keeping her patients dignified. 👏
Amen my sister nurse! I'm a retired neuro-trauma and ER night nurse, she makes me so humbly proud. I used to tell families to go home and rest, that i would treat the patient just like they're mine. Each patient deserves dignity and the best care possible. I have flown up and down hospital floors caring for critical patients and felt angels flanking me, I'm not the only one. Sometimes you are the only person standing between that critical patient and God. It can really feel that way. So you do all you can, and pray. If a dying patient asked me if i could pray, i was their girl. There are hospitals that will tell you not to pray, even if they asked me. I didn't ask them if i could, hmn. Unfortunately, nursing has drastically changed in the last 20 or more years. The handwriting was on the wall in the early 90's. I'm thankful there are still nurses that demand to be the best patient advocate they can be, and nothing less. Lord bless and keep all the angels of mercy! ❤🙏❤️
PP/ nursery RN for 25 years here. You touched on many aspects of being a nurse. And the many reasons an area can be meaningful to a nurse. This was one of the greatest interviews I've seen on SWU. You made me feel so proud to be a nurse. Our job is very important and I don't think the public really understands this.Helping and caring is very difficult. Thank you for talking with Mark
My mum was one and my mother-in-law is one. This was the most emotional video I watched in this channel. I wish people understood the importance of nurses and appreciate them more and treated them with much more respect.
Shawn, you represented our profession well. You shared your heart, your experience, your compassion, and you maintained professionalism throughout. I’m so glad to be a nurse, and I’m glad we can lean on each other for support through the traumatic experiences we share with our patients. Thank you for doing your part to help empower the victims you support. ❤
You are a beautiful soul. As a survivor of sexual childhood abuse. I cried through this whole interview. I am a strong woman, I didn’t let my abuser take my soul. You’re an angel. May God continue to bless you❤
Shaun, your talk resonated with me the most. My father was my first abuser and I was raped as a teenager more times than I can count. I'm 54 now and people would never guess my history if they didn't know me from way back then. I always 'see' homeless people and drug addicts and look them in their eyes and say 'good morning'. They probably don't even realise it, but they are my people - I just got through it all.... just! We value you more than you'll ever know. ❤
I'm the same way with the homeless and addicts. That could of easily been me due to my childhood sexual abuse and trauma. I'm so sorry that it happened to you. I just wanted to say bless you for having a beautiful soul 💓
From one rock-painter, homeless-person greeter/meeter, straight shooter, honest-speaker, duty-doer to another...THANKS for reminding all of us that in the depths of the darkest hours, one spark of light can start a life-giving fire of love and healing. Mark, you are an amazing interviewer, allowing Shawn (and all your guests!) to open up and share, "unsalted"...fresh and genuinely.
What a wonderful human being. I’m going into healthcare and although I won’t be working in forensics, I strive to make my patients feel as heard, seen, and cared for the way Shawn does for her patients💜
Shawn, that was a gorgeous interview. The way you danced around a horrific topic with command presence and hard truths, yet performed the essence of compassion and grace, is exemplary.
My heart breaks hearing her. And I am so glad she is there for the kids. This woman shows all the signs of PTSD. or even ongoing stress. Her courage and persistence to keep at this, to keep helping those who need it really humbles me. Shawn, blessings come to you. People like you are the Pillars of Life. Thank you
I thought the same. PTSD or CPTSD. I would love to hear a followup in a couple years where she retired to the countryside and takes in orphaned animals for a rescue organization or something like that. She deserves some peace, quiet, and some of the beauty in life after observing too much of its ugliness.
One of the absolute best interviews not only on this channel, but overall. Mark, you are an absolute genius to create this channel and offer voice to these people.
You probably won’t read this Shawn as the interview is 11 months old with over 7000 comments. But I want to tell you how amazing I think you are anyway and thankyou for your interview. I had no idea what your job involves. You’re an angel. Big ❤ from Australia🙏
This is BY FAR one of the very best interviews I have seen on your channel. What a remarkable woman. WOW! I am just awestruck by her compassion, composure and her frankness and well just everything about her. Thank you for posting this interview, and everyone should thank her for what she does. I believe & loved everything that she was saying. I love the story about making eye contact to a homeless person. I believe that everyone should know their worth and I do my very best to do that with everyone that I meet. Again, thank you for posting this incredible interview. Laurie
I’m a pathology person and I have performed countless autopsies on all ages from the fetal demise to the most elderly. Although I don’t see loved ones and victims face to face the work is truly an honor to be able to care for someone.
I have been a sexual assault victim advocate and response coordinator for 10 years and I can't say enough about how important our forensic medical personnel are. Their commitment and compassion can make all the difference for a victim and allow them the care they may not get otherwise. All my respect to you, ma'am! ❤
As a 911 Operator I can confirm that anytime someone, in a profession that carries vicarious trauma consequences, 'makes light' of what is a clearly horrendous circumstance they do it as a form of coping. We essentially take 'emotional baseball bats to the face' daily-sometimes weeks at a time for extended shifts as these professions are very difficult to keep staffed-and in order to continue to show up and expose ourselves to pain EVERY day we MUST find a way to lighten the load mentally. Anyone who CHOOSES to try and help when they know it's going to adversely affect them is there to be of service. There is NO amount of money that will keep you in a position to be abused indefinitely-is is a calling and it is woven into ones DNA. Anyone who pursues this type of career for 'the money' is weeded out very quickly. Thank You Shawn-for sharing and as usual Mark...Thank You and your team for bringing us the much needed unvarnished reality of life.
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I am writing this at just turning 70 years old. When I was 25, I was kidnapped and raped by a knife toting stranger. Later, when I was brought to the hospital, there was a grad student working on a grant that studied rape victims and their female family members for several years. She was with me through the rape kit, etc. and helped me get hospitalized when I became suicidal a few weeks later. If not for her, I'm not sure what would have happened. So, Shawn, please know that what you do has such a positive LONG lasting effect on our lives. I don't know you, but I love you for all you do. Thank you for your strength.
I am so sorry that you went through such a traumatic experience, but I am SO glad that you found the strength to be here with us for another 45 years, and I pray that there are many more ❤ may they be happy, healthy, loving years
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So sorry this happened to u
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So happy you are still here and made it to 70 years old! That’s amazing! Happy belated birthday! 🎉🙏🫶
The way I gasped when she said that her youngest patient was 35 DAYS old. A one month old BABY. Sickening
Look up the case of of baby Brianna. She was born Valentine's Day. She was only 5 months. I'm sure there's worse but that has been the worst case thus far. Short from a satanic ritual. Demons and the evil are real. Why? Because we have an angel like her sitting and telling her story. The one that gave birth to her served just 13 years of the 27. She's out living her life.
Yes, my mouth flew open when I heard that.
I hope they were prosecuted
Mouth wide open and gasped!!! So sick.
That is just horrible. I can't believe how sick people are 😢
This woman is EVERYTHING a nurse should be. Thankful for people like her ❤
This woman is EVERYTHING a human being should be! 💜
Thank you for your work. I felt so much like that in my 35 years as Woman Child RN. I started in L&D then Nursery 2 (Drug Baby Nursery) to NICU. I always dedicated my shift to God. I really hoped the parents could feel at least moments of being seen and heard. So many of them I liked, and I lived the babies.
@@peaceout6285 absolutely!
Incredible woman with an incredible story. Thank you for sharing❤️
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Holy cow. Please have her back. I feel like she just scratched the surface. Thank you for inviting her, and thank you, Shawn, for doing this video.
She could help bring awareness to those who watch of what to look for and how to offer help to someone especially a child!
Are you for real? I'm at 8:30 and I can't watch anymore.
I hope that someone cares for her the way that she cares for others. She deserves so much love.
me too. But I really doubt it, There aren't many who can give on that level . So the world is stretched thin on servants. God puts them where He needs them. Typically I think they just need normalcy
The way Mark said "that must be hard" and she turns it back around on him "well same as what you do, you hear things all day...". What a humble, compassionate human. Impossible to imagine the stories and awful things some people have to hold regularly. She is a Saint!
The Lord!!!
Amen, she deserves so much! This work is a burden on the soul and I hope hers can be lightened! She deserves peace helping the world of madness.
I hope she's getting therapy. I worry a bit about care givers, cuz who takes care of them? When i was in a case profession, i was on my own. I lasted 10 yrs.
You're treated my daughter. You an angel. I really don't know how we could have made it through without you. God bless you forever. God bless you forever. We will never forget you, we will never stop giving thanks for your presence. I'm sorry this comes at great personal expense to you 🫂❤️🙏 She's happy and adjusted well since then and you played a great part in her healing. Thank YOU forever.
THANK YOU FOREVER!
I’m so sorry for everything that happened to your daughter! I hope her body and soul are healing. Sending love to your family ❤
Such a beautiful comment. ✨I’m sorry about what happened to your daughter n I’m so happy she’s doing well.
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Wow...just wow...I knew this was an amazing woman but your comment just proved what everyone is thinking....Shawn is literally an angel and I am so sorry that you had to meet her under those circumstances but thank God you did.
I was trafficked for three months as a homeless teenager after being abandonded by my parents in a parking lot. I had no parental figure nor no one to run to or be protected by and still don't besides my husband 5 years later. The nurse that dealt with me and treated me (for the first time) like a human being, I will never forget her. She was the first adult I had cried in front of without a butt-whooping or being screamed at. I was at my breaking point with no education, malnourished and full of hatred and in that moment, that nurse made my life worth living. I would give anything to see her again just for an hour. Thank you for everything you forensic nurses do, it inspired my journey to become an EMT to also help people
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Sending a big hug 🎉
Sending lots of love to you. ❤ It's amazing how sometimes brief contact witha person can affect our life profoundly. I'm so glad you came across that nurse that day, after all you'd been through. Take good care. 💕
It's so sad that the sacredness of sensuality had been sacrificed to evil. Sigh...Thank you Shawn & Mark.
Brave you went in dirección to help others. Proud for you. Yes its not easy to feel vulnerable. Praise and thanksgiving to God for your perseverance. Abrazo
As a forensic nurse, I am so glad that they featured you on this channel, so many people have no idea that we even exist. I also see patients from birth to end of life, but not once deceased. I feel ya on the never ending on call, and vicarious trauma 100%, self-care is so important for us just as it is for our patients. I so appreciate your candidness. Forensics is certainly a calling and not for everyone ❤
-Sheree (SANE nurse manager, Ohio)
Thank you for the incredibly difficult and important work you do.
Thank you ❤❤❤ WOW.
@@ScurvyBildraftditto ❤
Thank you.
I wish they would train LPNs. I want to become a forensic nurse but cannot go back to school at the moment.
Not all heroes wear capes. I’m a 47 year old male and I was crying during most of this interview. Thank you for your work. What an amazing woman.
The gamut of humanity is so deep and wide that it kind of makes you question what it means exactly to be a human being.
Sane. Amazing woman
i sympathize with her, and admire her fortitude. usually the very first contact is an EMT/Firefighter. if you don't know what an impact a hurt child has on them, google up the photo of the firefighter carrying the body of the toddler out of the wreckage of the murrow bldg's daycare center in OKC. there was no support network. i hope there is one for folks in her line of work. first responders are in the nationwide top in suicides.
I am crying reading all of these comments. God save the children.
@@em1osmurfsadly, a lot of health care workers don't seek out help. Nurse here. Concerned about impact on license which is ridiculous. Covid changed things a bit. More healthcare willing to ask for help/support and not care about possible discrimination from management.
“Mommy said it was my fault because of the nightgown I was wearing” broke my heart. You can tell Shawn is the right person for this job she is amazing and you can tell she cares for every single one of her patients. This is one of the best interviews Soft White Underbelly has ever done. It was amazingly done
I 1000% agree with you!! One of the best interviews. Wow!
I agree and who bought her nightie?
I just really hope that child was not allowed to stay with that "mother" after that 😭
It is not your fault in any way, shape, or form. Parents should protect their children - always.
@@boochicks2590 guarantee that child stayed with the mother
I’ve worked with this amazing woman, let me say this…she along with all the other nurses at her facility are absolute angels! I loathed working these horrific crimes, but these women do these all day everyday! Such a special group of humans…and yes Shawn is a very tough woman!
God bless you and her for your hard work! Your strength is amazing I never realized that was a job but with that said you angels for what you do and how you help the victims!❤
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Shes a gun owner. So honestly fuck her for promoting the very violence she claims to be agaisnt
I'm really pleased Shawn is able to tangibly see the respect, honor & love people feel for her as a result of her strength & compassion in performing her duties. The self proclaimed tough nurse is a gentle & empathetic victim advocate. God bless her.
Where does she work? I’m from IN.
My husband asks why I watch your channel but I learn so much about why people are why they are and do what they do... Gives me so much compassion and awareness. ❤
My husband asks me the same question... watching the videos helps me see people with different eyes, it helps me be more accepting, understanding, more compassionate, more connected and more human I think.
My partner asked it too and I think it's important to hear all these voices when they belong to people at worst children, people who maybe live next door and want to be heard, maybe even before these terrible things happen.
I am blown away by her strength. The world is a better place because of people like her
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Totally agreed. 🌍🌎🌏🙏
What strength ? She's lying. I don't believe her. She's never had a patient that was 35 "days" old. That sounds more like a vindictive woman making up a BS story about a new born in order for (her) obtain full custody of the baby.
I agree
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I'm a retired Labor/Delivery RN. I have had many fetal demises during my 40+ years of nursing. I must say, even though it was difficult it was a privilege to help parents through this difficult time. We were taught to take special photos of the babies , and foot and hand prints for the family. Most of the families appreciated these small memories of their sweet baby.
I don't think a nurse should ever be left alone while having to take care of her first fetal demise.
Thank you for all of your years of service, they are greatly appreciated and needed.
When the topic came up of fetal demise, my mind went back to the Christmas Day when my baby boy was born still. It was sudden, due to incompetent cervix, and we were absolutely devastated. When I asked the ER nurse if my baby would live, she cringed and said she was "allergic to miscarriages," but the L&D nurses were wonderful. I treasure the photos and foot- and handprints, a quarter century later. They even found a pretty elegant white cardboard box to take him home in. It inspired me to work as an RN in L&D for a time.
@@bnic9471I am so sorry for your loss. I am glad you had others around to comfort you. I believe your baby's spirit remains with you to this day. ❤️
Thank you for asking that you do. It matters. 🦋🌞
speaking of fetal demise when i had my oldest daughter i seen this one nurse in the nursery at Ravenswood hospital when i went to check up on my baby she was in tears and she told me one baby was lost in delivery i still cry thinking about this
Dear Shawn ,
I am a physician. Keep painting those rocks...u are a brave, tremendously helpful person. Everything worth knowing, I learned from nurses.❤❤❤
As a nurse who became a physician, not listening to nurses ….. doesn’t work (the polite version).
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@@birdsndog5819I have said many times "if you are not going to at least listen to me, then why am I here!??" I don't have a problem being wrong but tell me why my thinking is off so I can learn. I don't know it all, teach me.
I’m a 58 yr old woman I’m a survivor of sexual abuse I wish I could have had someone like her to talk to
I’m so sorry nobody was there for you in your time of need. I hope you have found a good counselor or someone good you can talk to
Maybe you can email her? Not a guarantee she will reply but it’s worth giving a shot at it
Me too. My mom literally didn't believe, then blamed me for adultery, and then getting pregnant three months later w my abuser while I was still recovering after being hospitalized. My revenge? - I insisted on having a voice, got an education, taught, and ended up as a uni prof + wrote 250+ columns about women's rights and other things close to my heart. I wish someone would have treated me with the kindness and compassion that this bad ass woman with the biggest heart has.
You could see and feel just how much she was holding in the tears and anguish she feels because of what she sees and hears but chooses to continue to be there for her patients. She's an angel and a hero! Sorry that you are needed but thank you for what you do!
She's amazing. We really need more people like her in this evil world.
Shawn, and people out there like her in this line of work, are truly unsung heroes.
ABSOLUTELY!!
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Yes they are. It's a shame humanity essentially values entertainers, in other words just another form of pleasure seeking, over the people that matter most. Only celebrity and those that keep them well is met with the most admiration and security in life. Yet the same people will condemn the addicts for comforting themselves in the way they know how. I'm referring to the multi millions of dollars and the countless admiration athletes and other entertainers receive in compensation. This woman takes on countless hours, days, weeks, and years of trauma. Where are her accolades? I'm glad she spoke here. I didn't know of forensic nursing or what it entails either.
She's the rarest gem. Her compassion is overflowing. God bless her
Must be very difficult 🙏
I have never watched a more genuine interview on this channel. The world needs more people like Shawn! xo
Ain't that the truth.
she is one in a million
I agree. I think this is the best one I've seen.
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We're out here. After 25 years of Nursing & abuse & diagnosed with PTSD myself, other people will have to take over. Good luck finding nurses like us ❤ We need YOU to perform in the community, too.
I was one of those ER nurses who had to read the Rape kit instructions so I could do everything right! I was so glad when the Nurse Examiner showed up ,I knew they were in good hands and they had more time to spend with the patient and knew how to treat them emotionally, God bless you!
Her posture throughout the interview tells you how much she has taken on due to her job and she is comforting herself as she natrates the horror of her day to day job. As a fellow RN who worked in hospice, oncology, ICU and now mental health, nursing is a calling. Hats off to ppl like Shawn and all who passionately care!!
Amen! Thank you as well for all you do and the way you do it!
Kudos to you too, Ive got a huge appreciation and respect for nurses many of my friends are RNs and after some local tragedies i know theyve been on call for i just cant imagine. I always be sure to thank my nurses any time I'm having a procedure. Er, even reg Dr visit every time they enter and leave the room doing something for me. I had my second son 10 weeks early and was admitted on bedrest in hospital for about 4 weeks before they did the c section and even the days I'd have the not so great nurses I just thought of exactly why she may not be in a great mood what she could've seen or been through that day or prior , maybe someone lost a baby, I didn't know so I wasn't one to start any complaint or whatever like I know some would've. I'd see how hard they'd still be busting their asses to help me and my baby and keep him in there and safe through whatever they were dealing with and made sure to be extra patient and nice to them. I had some super amazing ones who would take me outside and down to the atrium to get some good food and snacks when my fiance and family couldn't visit since he was home with our then 4 yr old and 2 hrs away from the hospital. I'll never forget the one nicu nurse named Mel she was my absolute fav person I met during my total 6weeks and my sons 4 weeks nicu. She was the sweetest most kind patient and helpful nurse I've ever experienced and she was Def in the right place being in the nicu with such fragile babies and scared parents my youngest is 10 now but I must think of Mel a few times a week still! I'm so thankful she was my nurse, I've been wanting to mail a letter down with a picture to the nicu since it's been 10 years but I'm not sure any of the nurses are even still there lol I'm sure some are
@@KT06 you're also to be commended. Thank you 😊
@@KT06 Write the letter. Chances are good that someone will still be there 10 years later. NICUs often have nurses and other staff who stay there until they retire.
Even if there isn't any of the same people there, somebody will read it who appreciates it and needs to read something positive.
GOD bless you! you are a hero of heros..
Your work and how you treat those in your care ALWAYS makes a difference
I’m doing my nursing prerequisites right now. This women convinced me to pursue a forensic certification afterwards. She’s amazing.
May God bless and comfort you through your journey. May he make you strong.
Thank you
Me too
It's the biggest burden but the incredibly meaningful if you can keep your bearings and balance a life outside work.
- a retired sexual assault detective
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Good Luck ❤ Nursing isn't what it was...As a Nurse of 30 years, the establishment & each state Nursing Board are changing laws we won't comply with. Society norms are becoming disgusting ill.
From 35 days old to 94 years old...I'm not sure which case saddens me the most. There are some real, genuine monsters amongst us.
All of it is deeply disturbing all of it.
Defense is sooo important. Always carry any weapons to defend.
@@TH-camhandle20245how is a baby meant to defend itself?
It’s all horrific but a baby is especially horrific
@@TH-camhandle20245as a brit, I wish 😕
Excellent Shawn. I did this work for only 2 years. Was the hardest nursing role I ever had. I will be sharing this video with nursing professionals whenever I lecture on this topic.
Child of extreme abuse here. I wish you had been involved in my case. I may not have received the help I needed, but hearing your conviction, words, and intentional impact are healing to the wounded child inside. Thank you for airing this episode.
yup!!
Thank you for continuing to overcome! You are doing really well ❤
I am so proud of you! You are so brave and worthy of love, protection, peace and comfort! I pray for healing for you and the child inside you! God bless! ❤
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Shawn as a fellow RN, you represented yourself, your patients, and the profession in such high regard. Your empathy, compassion, and knowledge poured from your spirit. As nurses, we give so much of ourselves and our families know our sacrifices, but I am so thankful you are a SANE nurse and a fellow human I may come in contact with at any given moment. You are beautiful and I appreciate you. You-Are-Brave. You do make a difference. I hope you have good outlets for self care, that's always a struggle in this field. Much love!
Hugs.
I’m a fellow RN and couldn’t have said it better myself.
This was a great interview. Shawn is so compassionate and she is definitely in the right profession, however, it seems that she has seen too much and it's weighing very heavily on her. Talk to someone to fix you xo
I'm also an RN and wanted to say that but I didn't have the words to say it better than you did! ❤
Another fellow RN and I could not have said it better ❤
When I was 18 I was kidnapped and raped by a guy. I remember the fear and helplessness I felt but I mostly remember the nurse that did my rape kit and how safe she made me feel. Thank you Shawn for all you do! I promise your patients will never forget your kindness.
Wow…wishing you well and sending health and love your way❤
God is with you as you are here to tell the tale. 🙏❤
Sadly many women end up disappearing in similar situations 😢
really? Should she be grateful for your God and how he let her down that day? I'll never understand this type of comment. You have no idea what the person you're responding to believes in. Impact, not intent. Seriously.
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What a strong and beautiful soul. My heart hurts for all that she has seen. What a blessing she is in such a delicate and traumatic situation.
Having interviewed a rape victim at the ER as a rookie cop was one of the most challenging things I have ever done in my life. Shawn, I cannot imagine doing what you do. Coming from a Combat Veteran witnessing the death of my Soldiers and seeing the worst humans can do to one another as a civilian law enforcement officer. Kudos. I salute you and thank you for all that you do. 🫡 Remember to be kind to yourself. Stay blessed.
Strong person. You rock Shawn!
Thank you for your service Sir. Greetings from Italy.💕
Blessings to you!
God Bless you❤
Thank you and other LEOs that have to see the worst of the worst. God bless
I was so transfixed this entire interview. Thank you Shawn, for being vulnerable and sharing so much. Fred Rogers once said ““When I was a boy and I would see scary things in the news, my mother would say to me, ‘Look for the helpers. You will always find people who are helping.’” Thank you for being a helper ❤
Your comment made me cry. I remember Mr. Rogers saying that. What a blessing he was.
Shawn is def a helper. 💜
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What a beautiful statement ❤
My new fave statement. Its shifted something in me. Thank you
My first day as House Supervisor of a hospital, I had to take care of a baby girl that died immediately after delivery. She looked like a beautiful angel. I had to take her to the morgue. I cried off and on all day. Nurses do unimaginable things to save a human’s life and to be with them at death. Retired RN.
Awe hugs Def isn't an easy job being a nurse I wish the nurse I had when I had my still born had more compassionate and caring instead of what they did then because I was losing to much blood I got admitted to the labor delivery floor overnight. But hwvw had some pretty amazing nurses since then especially in the nicu after I had my last 2 Littles.
Thank you for your compassion and caring🙏
There is such a gentle calmness about her. I can see how she is soothing for victims in a way.
The fact that she’s holding herself through this whole interview says it all to me. This is a hero in my eyes, thank you for what you do and please take care of yourself - you have a true gift and one amazing soul 💖
Yeah, seriously how does she hold it together for this? she probably never gets to vent it
@@dtps_champion6016The eyes speak when the heart is unable to say.
Can you imagine diagnosing a 35 day old for this?
@@MR-backupI'm stuck on that, too. Poor baby😢
"The final stage of healing is when you use what happened to you to help others." Shawn's a real empath and you can see the emotional toll that job takes on her. She's given so much of herself to help others. I think Mark should start a donation fund for her retirement. She deserves it after all she's given. Bless her ❤️
I wish I could heart this comment a thousand times❤
Thats a great idea
Awesome sentiment. I agree. However, us nurses never retire. Ha!
Agreed ❤. She deserves a beautiful last portion of her precious life ❤
Please take care of yourself
I had a full body exam by a forensic nurse at the age of 9 years old. It was awful!!! And then the charges were dropped AFTER I went through that AND testified in court at 9!!! My own mother dropped the charges!! Thank GOd things are done differently today and the DA will still prosecute regardless and they don’t make children have to go on the stand in court..I was SO traumatized. Thank you for what you do, I could not imagine this job.
I'm so sorry you experienced that trauma. ❤
@@carolapostolos8929 thank you! It’s affected me and still does at 47 years old. But I will be eventually getting EMdR therapy for it.
I am so sorry you went through such horrible thing, I hope you got better and got help eventually .. wish you well
I'm so sorry that happened to you. Remember none of it was your fault.
Thank you for your kindness everyone. I had counseling as a child but have yet to do EMDR in the future for it, unfortunately it still affects me to this day. I am 47 now.
This was by far the best ‘Soft White Underbelly’ show I’ve seen to date. 6-2-2024❤. God bless our forensic nurses!!
I’m so thankful people like her exist ❤ she’s truly remarkable with her compassion .
That was my first thought too. I know ppl who investigate abuse against children. The stories are horrific
@@lisanevins3605I could never, just thinking about anyone hurting kids makes me see red
Thankfully is not a strong enough word, she's awesome
Absolutely
This woman is a God sent and most of all there are no words I can fathom her strength. Your strength I am so thankful.
A nurse like this helped me big time. Many nurses are angels on earth. She went above and beyond, I remember she recommended books to me also like "The Anxiety and Phobia Workbook" by Bourne and "30 Days to Reduce Anxiety" by Harper Daniels...both books together helped me so that was cool of her. She didn't have to do that, nor did she have to listen to me...but she did. If a nurse is reading this...thank you for what you do, and I hope you get some rest this week before you face a lot.
I hope ur doing better considering how hat you’ve experienced 💜 much love to you
Im a nurse too...And sometimes is gard..Takes a lot of me..I give myself to my job...Because is not only a job ...😘❤
God bless you.
Wow! Thanks for those book recommendations!!🎉🎉
Wow what a strong bad ass woman
I was forced to live with a convicted pedophile for 14 years of my childhood. It haunts me how differently me and all my siblings turned out. It destroyed my sister. Absolutely ruined her entire life. The rest of us are pretty normal, considering the torment we endured.
Thank you for being a normal person who cares enough to show up for these kids. We didn’t have someone like you.
I’m so sorry you and your siblings experienced that, that should never have happened to you. I hope your sister finds some peace as well- it’s true we never know how the same actions will impact people differently.
😢so sorry the adults you should of been able to trust betrayed you. Hope your able to find healing, 🙏🏻to you.
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OMG I'm so sorry. Your mother is a POS for allowing that to happen
I just discovered SWU two hours ago and i plan on binge watching every single episode that i can find. Having been homeless myself, i appreciate the dignity given to so many’s stories through these videos. SWU may become the very first TH-cam channel that i subscribe to financially. I believe that much in its message. Thank you for what you’re doing, Mark.
"The final stage of healing is using what happened to you to help other people" Wow so powerful, thanks for sharing your story.
So beautiful.
As a female police officer I have seen and talked to a few children in these circumstances but this lady is really standing in the gap! Thank you. Your words mean a world of difference to those in need. Thank you again today and tomorrow ❤️
Thank you for every day of your life. You're never off. ❤
You really should use your talents elsewhere. Your job will taint you after awhile. Policing is inherently morally compromising. You know what I mean. A nurse I know told me today a cop from town who is married wants to visit her for a "quick one". She is insulted and told him and is now frightened by one of trust in blue.
@@harry1babs I don't think that policing is inherently morally compromising. There are plenty of cops who do their job for the right reasons, in the right way, without corruption or a break in morals. There are also plenty who are not good, who do violate their integrity, but that is because of the people that they are, not because of the job itself.
@@harry1babsthat's so terrible
@@LLmoney23 yes isn't it!
As a nurse myself, I am so proud of Shawn. Such an outstanding human. Thank you Shawn! Your patients are lucky to have you.
Today, I have learned so much from you. Humble. Kind. Professional. Firm in your approach to you work and empathetic. Thank you Shawn.
A true hero. It is amazing how much emotional trauma she endures and still goes every day to help people.
Amen!
I was an ER trauma nurse and I was certified SANE. I am very glad that I didn’t stay beyond 15 years in that specialty. I burned out. I have been an RN for 43 years now and PTSD was destroying me. I was in and out of counseling and I was going to crash and burn. I couldn’t do the dead kids anymore. You are amazing Shawn. God’s Grace to you.
You did your best for as long as you could. Please don't demish all the good you have done.
bless you.
Now is the time to take care of yourself. You gave so much of yourself for years. The selfless work you have done has incredibly powerful positive long-lasting effects on the patients and their families that you will never see.
I was a Community Mental Health/ AOD had the gift of knowing my limits.Prior to Covid worked in Disability Services....transferable skills less horizontal violence and easier life.
You are one of the most amazing member of our society helping people. Serving our community. We salute you!
This woman made me feel so safe in this 49 min interview. I know she's out there doing God's work. I hope she gets peace in her life to cushion the blow of the nastiness she encounters.
Same. Raw and honest, pure heart
yes I feel like this profession chose her
An "all powerful" being that just let's this awful stuff happen, even to innocent children & babies. Absolutely vile.
I’m a 75 yr old retired ER/ICU nurse and I have always done whatever could be done for patients who had to undergo these examinations, including letting them lean back on me while another nurse or physician. As a victim of familial and acquaintance assault, my first priority was always my patient. (Correction: I felt that way about all of my patients. Good, dedicated nurses are always your advocate above all else, no matter the reason for your admission.) sometimes I had to hold in tears or at least keep them in check as best as I could. I’ve cried oceans on the drive home many days. Yet, I still wish I could be there now, helping them through those difficult steps. Thank you for the work you do and thank you, Mark for the light you shine on these “hidden worlds.” 🙏🏻 Namaste
Child safety officer here- how she talks to the children is perfect!!!! How she sets boundaries with the children and let them know they have control in the situation is just beautiful.
We always tell our children its not their fault, they are brave and we go over the body rules (good secrets/bad secrets)
I'm a 30+ year Rn and I cried almost all the way through this. My regular Hospital job was tough, but my God, you are a strong person. Thank you for being there for these vistims and survivors.
General nursing is tough but this is another level. Thank God she is willing to do the job.
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I am proud to count this woman a colleague and a friend. Very brave of you Sister, to tell your story and tell all of our stories, those broken and those working to put back together. Love you!
@@forensicnursing70my wife is an NP and I know how hard the field of nursing is in general from years of stories. I taught emotionally disturbed children early in my education career. I have seen the damage first hand as well. Just thank you so much for what you do. You're the very best of humanity.
This woman is stronger than most of us could ever dream of being... but she has such soft compassion, and she is a credit to her field and herself. A true angel on earth xxxx
This is what a hero looks like in flesh and blood. I so admire the people able to do this work, as I cannot. I would collapse in a heap of sobbing tears each night. Anyone who works with abused children has my greatest admiration and respect. My SIL is a CASA (child advocate) volunteer for children in foster care. She doesn’t say much but I hear hints of what ‘her’ kids experience. My heart breaks for them all.
CASA is amazing! Much thx to your sister! 💗
@@StephieGsrEvolution thanks, she’s a rockstar
Shawn, if you read this, thank you for finding the courage to come on here to tell us about your career and life. I come to this channel for learning and this was one of the best interviews Mark has done (in my own estimation). We’re a similar age and I so admire your selflessness in the work you do - I couldn’t do it. The world is so much richer for you being in it. Much love, from Down Under in New Zealand.
God is so good. You are truly a blessing
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SHAWN!
So awesome to see she is valued. Glad you took the time.
Thank you, Kristy, for all that you do, as well. ☮️
Dear Shawn,
The countless lives that you have helped!!! You are making such a differnence in this world. So thoughtful, kind and compasionate... and an immense inspiration❤ Thank you xo And thank you for taking the time to do this interview. 🌼 🌸 🌻 🌹 🏵
This world needs more people like you.
This was incredible. She is a rockstar. This 50 minutes went by so fast. She speaks so eloquently and is so captivating. Her empathy and passion seep from her pores. I’m so encouraged by her & this interview.
This woman is really an angel, such clarity, love, directness with compassion, she’s a blessing to society ❤️
in other parts of the world nurses are called angels especially in Egypt
@@khanbibi A well deserved title and completely undervalued 👍🏻
As someone from a dysfunctional upbringing and a mental health care worker,this is one of your best interviews. Most people don't understand the magnitude of trauma. Thank you Mark and Shawn.
Agree 💯 🩶
@@crystalh2211 So true. I’ve been plagued with it my entire adult life. At my age I’ve decided to only do what makes me reasonably comfortable. And these days that includes not leaving my apartment. I’m trying to figure it out. Fingers crossed I guess. I really don’t miss much anymore that I can’t do at home. I leave when my daughter is with me. Stay safe everyone!
Shawn, I'm amazed at your strength after all you've seen and been through. Thank you for all you do for those that need someone just like you.
Thank you Shawn, for all you do, and every person you help. ❤️
I’m a nursing student. This has reignited my passion for helping SA victims. As a victim of CSA myself, I completely resonate with the patients she’s had that blamed themselves. It’s a horrifyingly exhausting feeling. Thank you for this video
She is EXACTLY where she needs to be in this world. Thank you, Shawn
I too am a SANE nurse and completely understand the emotions Shawn goes through in caring for these patients. It is a hard but sometimes rewarding job. SANE nurses are taught to give dignity, respect, and privacy back to the patient. We do this by practicing trauma-informed care and genuinely caring for the patients we treat.
Kudos to you Shawn...you are a great nurse!
Thank you for what you do.
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lmao I read a comment before yours talking about being a SANE nurse... I thought it very strange that they were putting such emphasis on their sanity, let alone that they thought it necessary to clarify at all... Now that I'm seeing it again, I realise it's an acronym.😅😂
I love this woman so much! Her heart is huge and she is so genuine and strong! I was assaulted/raped/held against my will by a stranger 34 years ago and I remember the kindness from the nurse during my rape kit exam. The catheter sucks but the encouragement and support telling me I did everything right because I survived. I've never forgotten the kindness and those words spoken helped me survive emotionally and move on in life. I was 23 when it happened and my mother asked me what I was wearing after it happened. I felt insecure to explain jeans and a sweater but the fashion was rips in the jeans and I felt guilty for it. Not anymore tho. Words go a lonnnnnng way with a person.
Same. I was sexually assaulted 2 years ago, and after I was drugged at a bar. A bar I came to for years..I was strangled, beaten, and covered in bruises. The 2 women that came from our local rape crisis center, and the forensic nurse that helped through the exam gave me so much strength. Without them? I couldn't have done it
I’m so sorry you had to hear those words from your own mother. That makes me sad. Thank God for your kind nurse.
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That was inspiring.
You are not responsible for any of what happened to you. Nothing. You could walk around stark naked and still no one can say, touch, assault or rape you. You are not at fault.
I’m sorry this happened to you.
My first grandchild was stillborn at 27 weeks. The nurses were so amazing and I still think of them eight years later.
When she said it hit her a couple days later and Mark quickly responded “me too” I felt a lot of compassion for them both. This world has a lot of darkness and it takes a special kind to consistently dive into it daily all while self preserving. They’re both such beautiful souls.
Excellent comment 💎
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Darkness is all around, people feed on it, the oppressed suffer the most while others sit there with blood on their hands patting each others backs
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@user-wh5ir4fo4r indeed, what it means to be human.
"Did anyone ever tell you it wasn't your fault?" Had me sobbing at my desk. Shawn has a beautiful compassionate soul that just radiates from her when she speaks. Truly an angel on earth
Gallows humor, black humor is a way of getting through as an emergency worker be5teen colleagues, rhe nurse, the cop. It's in no way disrespectful to individuals or violating privacy or treating things as a joke. Rarely done anywhere near a patient. It's a self--depreciating thing.
I am so moved by Shawn, she reminds me of the Dolly Parton quote “I'll never harden my heart, but I've toughened the muscles around it.” She seems to embodies this balance of strength and compassion. Thank you for your story.
You nailed it when you said it came down to self worth. I’m also an RN. I work bedside. One of many of my most memorable moments is when a patient looked at me and said they were too old to do what they wanted in life and I looked her in the eyes and said “never give up on yourself.” She teared up, I hugged her. Small moments of compassion can be profound. Thank you for treating the victims with compassion and worth.
I’m a behavioral health Tech of 23years, that works with children and adolescents. There are times where I have had to step out of the building and cry because of some of the disgusting things that these poor kids have had to endure. I commend you for your work. You are an Angel. Thank you for treating them with the dignity and respect that they deserve. Thank you! thank you! thank you!
You are an absolute angel too!❤
Thank you for your honesty and openness to say you cry because of the pain of what others go through.
You're a good person. Thank you, too, for your service.💖
I commend you too
If i had had a nurse like shawn questioning me at 4 years old, instead of a scary big man (detective) about my assault, i feel like it would have diminished my trauma exponentially. I am so happy that she is out here doing this to help victims, especially children. Thank you.
As an RN and childhood SA survivor, I am so proud of this woman and what she does. I also agree that so many of us go into healing fields when we've been on the other end.
Same ❤❤ Nurse and SA survivor. I honestly don't think I could do what she does. Thank God for people like, Shawn.
This interview touched my heart deeply. This wonderful lady is so precious, the way she overthinks is because she cares so much. I hope she has an amazing family and support network ❤ sending her so much love 🙏🏼💗
I’ve been a therapist for 24 years and it was such a blessing to listen to your interview. To hear a woman who cares so much and realizes she cannot detach if she is going to be the best for the people she cares for! The secondary PTSD is real and I am so thankful you learned to take care of you! Thank you for your work!
Do you always ask the question, did anyone tell you noT TO tELL?
Vicarious Trauma IS very real!!! ❤
Vicarious traumatization.
You really never think about the people who have to undertake these jobs. So heavy. So much responsibility.
This is an amazing, authentic woman.
Caring is great
God is able to go before that child even if they are pulled out of an abusive home. He is the one who sets the lonely in families (Psalm 68:6).
What an amazing woman, I'm so glad you interviewed her and shared it with us! I have a feeling this video is going to get over a million views. Shawn, if you're reading through all these comments so far, THANK YOU for giving a part of yourself in order to help others. I hope your faith will lessen the burden of things you have to see and hear. You are so important to this world!!
Mark, the insight you bring to the human condition is intense and immense. A video textbook for people trying to navigate the many mental illnesses and behavioral variables affecting human beings in our society today. Thank you so much.
Dear Shawn,
I trust this comment finds you in good health and spirits. As I sat down to write this, I couldn't help but reflect on the powerful impression your recent interview on Soft White Underbelly has left on me. Your words and the stories you shared about your role as a Sexual Assault Nurse Examiner in Northern Indiana were both eye-opening and deeply moving.
First and foremost, I want to express my heartfelt gratitude for the vital role you play in supporting survivors of sexual assault and their families. Your dedication to providing care, comfort, and justice to those who have endured such traumatic experiences is truly inspirational. Your interview not only shed light on your profession but also highlighted the incredible strength and resilience you bring to it.
One aspect that struck me most profoundly was your unwavering compassion, empathy, and professionalism in handling such sensitive cases. Your ability to connect with survivors and provide them with a safe space for empowerment `and a start at healing is a testament to your exceptional character. It takes a special kind of person to do what you do, and I am filled with gratitude knowing that individuals like you exist to help and support those in need during their darkest hours.
Your commitment to making the world a safer and more compassionate place is not just evident; it is a beacon of hope. It's a testament to your unwavering values and the strength of your character. Please understand that your work does not go unnoticed. The impact you have on the community you serve and the countless lives you touch is immeasurable. Your story has resonated deeply with everyone who has had the privilege of hearing it, and I am no exception.
In closing, I would like to reiterate my heartfelt thanks, Shawn. Thank you for your selfless service and the profound, positive impact you make on the lives of survivors. Your kindness, expertise, and unwavering resilience are nothing short of remarkable. The world is a better place because of individuals like you who dedicate themselves to making it more compassionate and just.
Some professionals know how to share what is being done and what needs to be done. People like You are such God sent because they don’t shut down & become selfish with what is needed t be shared. It’s good for the bones!
In addition, I agree with you about the healing of people with God & Jesus. Knowing them is so much more than a “religious” practice and no less!
With warm regards and profound gratitude,
Susie c
So beautifully said!!! ❤❤ She may be tough, but what immense love and compassion in her heart! Definitely her calling! Wow!
This was so well said. Thank you for sharing your thoughts with Shawn and us. Great work!
Great comment! One who recognizes human excellence knows what the opposite is, as well.
Never have I seen an explanation like this. Shawn was so beautifully transparent and that honesty is so comforting.. and yes, Mark is brilliant at how these interviews are done. Fabulous job on all sides.
The world needs you, Shawn. The world needs more people like you. Thank you for all that you do.
She was holding in her tears. A very compassionate lady.
To me, there's nothing more beautiful or extraordinary than when someone shines a light in the most horrific and painful situations. Thank you for being an inspiration.
Can you imagine how beautiful the world would be if everyone was as kind, caring and compassionate as this woman is!? She definitely found her calling and she is making a huge difference in so many lives. ❤️
If everyone was as amazing as her, her job wouldn't exist ❤❤
This was one of the best, most tactful interviews I've seen. Major respect for how she illuded to the evil realities, while still keeping her patients dignified. 👏
Amen my sister nurse! I'm a retired neuro-trauma and ER night nurse, she makes me so humbly proud. I used to tell families to go home and rest, that i would treat the patient just like they're mine. Each patient deserves dignity and the best care possible.
I have flown up and down hospital floors caring for critical patients and felt angels flanking me, I'm not the only one. Sometimes you are the only person standing between that critical patient and God. It can really feel that way. So you do all you can, and pray. If a dying patient asked me if i could pray, i was their girl. There are hospitals that will tell you not to pray, even if they asked me. I didn't ask them if i could, hmn.
Unfortunately, nursing has drastically changed in the last 20 or more years. The handwriting was on the wall in the early 90's. I'm thankful there are still nurses that demand to be the best patient advocate they can be, and nothing less. Lord bless and keep all the angels of mercy! ❤🙏❤️
PP/ nursery RN for 25 years here. You touched on many aspects of being a nurse. And the many reasons an area can be meaningful to a nurse. This was one of the greatest interviews I've seen on SWU. You made me feel so proud to be a nurse. Our job is very important and I don't think the public really understands this.Helping and caring is very difficult. Thank you for talking with Mark
My mum was one and my mother-in-law is one. This was the most emotional video I watched in this channel. I wish people understood the importance of nurses and appreciate them more and treated them with much more respect.
Shawn, you represented our profession well. You shared your heart, your experience, your compassion, and you maintained professionalism throughout. I’m so glad to be a nurse, and I’m glad we can lean on each other for support through the traumatic experiences we share with our patients. Thank you for doing your part to help empower the victims you support. ❤
Shawn, as a former Labor and Delivery nurse and now a Forensic Nurse Examiner, your interview was so powerful. ❤ Thank you for sharing
You are a beautiful soul. As a survivor of sexual childhood abuse. I cried through this whole interview. I am a strong woman, I didn’t let my abuser take my soul. You’re an angel. May God continue to bless you❤
Shaun, your talk resonated with me the most.
My father was my first abuser and I was raped as a teenager more times than I can count. I'm 54 now and people would never guess my history if they didn't know me from way back then.
I always 'see' homeless people and drug addicts and look them in their eyes and say 'good morning'. They probably don't even realise it, but they are my people - I just got through it all.... just!
We value you more than you'll ever know. ❤
I’m so sorry you had to go through that. You give me hope.
I'm the same way with the homeless and addicts. That could of easily been me due to my childhood sexual abuse and trauma. I'm so sorry that it happened to you. I just wanted to say bless you for having a beautiful soul 💓
Sending you so much 🫶🫶💜
You just gave me so much hope. Healing is tangible!
I’m glad that you are ok.God bless you . I hug you very strong right now.
I’m an RN of 27 years. The traumatic things we see are unbelievable. Atrocious. Bless you, Shawn ❤
From one rock-painter, homeless-person greeter/meeter, straight shooter, honest-speaker, duty-doer to another...THANKS for reminding all of us that in the depths of the darkest hours, one spark of light can start a life-giving fire of love and healing. Mark, you are an amazing interviewer, allowing Shawn (and all your guests!) to open up and share, "unsalted"...fresh and genuinely.
What a wonderful human being. I’m going into healthcare and although I won’t be working in forensics, I strive to make my patients feel as heard, seen, and cared for the way Shawn does for her patients💜
Shawn, that was a gorgeous interview. The way you danced around a horrific topic with command presence and hard truths, yet performed the essence of compassion and grace, is exemplary.
Beautifully said...❤
Very well said. What a humble servant. 🙏
My heart breaks hearing her. And I am so glad she is there for the kids. This woman shows all the signs of PTSD. or even ongoing stress. Her courage and persistence to keep at this, to keep helping those who need it really humbles me. Shawn, blessings come to you. People like you are the Pillars of Life. Thank you
I thought the same. PTSD or CPTSD. I would love to hear a followup in a couple years where she retired to the countryside and takes in orphaned animals for a rescue organization or something like that. She deserves some peace, quiet, and some of the beauty in life after observing too much of its ugliness.
The flushing in the face, I have PTSD and it happens to me too
@@KY-jb4vd Same for me also. The delayed response to current traumatic situations is also an indication of CPTSD. We tend to see each other.
My thoughts too!
I do not believe she has PTSD.
I think it's strange that you would say something like.
One of the absolute best interviews not only on this channel, but overall. Mark, you are an absolute genius to create this channel and offer voice to these people.
It really helps the rest of us know what is really going on in the world that we do not see!
You probably won’t read this Shawn as the interview is 11 months old with over 7000 comments. But I want to tell you how amazing I think you are anyway and thankyou for your interview. I had no idea what your job involves. You’re an angel. Big ❤ from Australia🙏
This is BY FAR one of the very best interviews I have seen on your channel. What a remarkable woman. WOW! I am just awestruck by her compassion, composure and her frankness and well just everything about her. Thank you for posting this interview, and everyone should thank her for what she does. I believe & loved everything that she was saying. I love the story about making eye contact to a homeless person. I believe that everyone should know their worth and I do my very best to do that with everyone that I meet. Again, thank you for posting this incredible interview. Laurie
I’m a pathology person and I have performed countless autopsies on all ages from the fetal demise to the most elderly. Although I don’t see loved ones and victims face to face the work is truly an honor to be able to care for someone.
I have been a sexual assault victim advocate and response coordinator for 10 years and I can't say enough about how important our forensic medical personnel are. Their commitment and compassion can make all the difference for a victim and allow them the care they may not get otherwise. All my respect to you, ma'am! ❤
How do you get involved in this work? As a victim of sexual assault…. I’m passionate about this. 🙏🏼
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As a 911 Operator I can confirm that anytime someone, in a profession that carries vicarious trauma consequences, 'makes light' of what is a clearly horrendous circumstance they do it as a form of coping. We essentially take 'emotional baseball bats to the face' daily-sometimes weeks at a time for extended shifts as these professions are very difficult to keep staffed-and in order to continue to show up and expose ourselves to pain EVERY day we MUST find a way to lighten the load mentally. Anyone who CHOOSES to try and help when they know it's going to adversely affect them is there to be of service. There is NO amount of money that will keep you in a position to be abused indefinitely-is is a calling and it is woven into ones DNA. Anyone who pursues this type of career for 'the money' is weeded out very quickly. Thank You Shawn-for sharing and as usual Mark...Thank You and your team for bringing us the much needed unvarnished reality of life.