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- Here we look at the best way to get your Cessna off the ground, gain altitude safely and in control and then Trim the aircraft to make level flight easier.
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I told you behore, your videos are some much better than the lessons in FSX itself! Thanks very much!
That quality of your videos deserves waaaay more attention! I will pass it on to my friends!
I've learned a lot from your videos.
That's very kind of you to say, thank you :) Glad my videos could help you learn!
Doofer911 You are an excellent instructor thanks for this clear and concise lesson.
Thanks for the kind comment Colin :)
Great. I've been looking for this. Thanks for the slowing down of film and precise explanation. Very good clip, thanks again.
Thanks Doofer911 Best video I've seen so far on explaining trim.
Thanks so much from here in Africa ,really helped in understanding ,please keep up all the good u doing for us all ,thanks again .
Many thanks. I think you've earned yourself at least one Gold Star to date. Now I'm looking forward to your next offering.
Thank you so much for your work on the tutorials, id be lost without them!
Hi now found your first video so starting to watch, your instructions are excellent, unlike other videos where you just get told what the instruments are, you gave examples where possible. So looking forward to learning to fly in FSX with you. Get thing is I will have my IPad with your video on and will try to mirror your instructions. 🛩
Welcome to the channel! I'm really glad you're finding value with my vids. if you come across anything you're not sure of, don't hesitate to ask about it!
THANK YOU! Finally, one of the few detailed explanation on how to do it!
Brilliant, I am learning the basics before any equipment is bought. Great tutorials, watching every single one of your video.....loving it. I have two books that I am reading at the same time. First one is scenario based training with x-plane and MFS, and the other is MFS for Real World Training.
Hey Errol, that's fantastic! You'll be a pro in no time! Hope my videos can help you on the journey :)
Might be worthwhile easing off on the mixture settings once the flaps are up - you are burning fuel for not much benefit (but not too much otherwise you will lose power) - just keep an eye on airspeed in level flight, with a constant throttle position. Ease the mixture knob towards lean until you just start to see a slight airspeed reduction, and that's fine. In the "Real World" that'll reduce engine wear / carbonisation and give you extra range per 100 gallons.
I completely agree however the intent with my first 4 or 5 videos was to get COMPLETE beginners up into the air so I didn't want them worrying about things like Fuel Mixture. The default planes in FSX are very forgiving so you can throw them about without much consequence.
Doofer911 Fully agree with your intentions - and as said before you do an excellent job. It would be interesting to see how many of your 12,600+ subscribers will take up PPL training as a result of your really good videos - I'd not be at all surprised if "more than a few" future PPL holders might look back and say "your videos were the reason for me doing this" - and that would be something to be VERY proud of!
First steps with FSX. I don't even have the software. Cool and interesting video, better explained than some made by professional instructors. I look forward to discover the next ones and, who knows, move from Spain to Inverness to learn even more.
So glad i found this full simulator playlist..this is helping me alot in my actual pilot training!
I'm glad my videos can help! Please do double check things with your instructor because I'm not a pilot myself.
Of course i take the instructors words more by heart but your videos give me a idea about what i'm gonna face and in the plane i'm already familiarized with what's to come. Helps a lot!
Ta very much! The clearest instructions I have so far had. Had to turn the sound up though to highest.
This was one of my earliest videos so I hadn't quite figured out production quality then, later videos get better :)
Thank you this really helped me i'v been able to fly almost completely level with the trim changes every so often.
+Austin Martinez Nice one! Yeah once you get the trim perfectly balanced the plane will fly itself easily
What’s up toontown. I still havent tried the rewritten one
Excellent tutorial, thanks very much for sharing
Superb explanation and example on trim. I couldnt get it. Explain with ease. Love it
I finally understand trim, thanks man 👍🏼 I’ve learned something new today
I'm glad! It's a small thing but really helps with flying. If you truly want to understand how important it is, go and do a real world flying lesson! It's a small thing in a simulator but when flying for real, it's REALLY important!
I am embarrassed to say how many MS FS versions I have, but just wish I had seen your channel far earlier. Very calm presentation, and the clarity/resolution of the cockpit is startling. May I ask what spec your computer and video card is? Thanks.
I use the same yoke and it's amazing for starting!
Excellent videos. Bad weather takeoff and landing would also be interesting.
This was really useful, thank you : )
Great video man
Thankyou for sharing this even though i have been flying for a while i have mainly been using auto pilot and i really want to learn how to hand fly. Thanks to this i can now fly level :)
We all start somewhere! Hope you keep up with learning everything!
I re-watched this video; thanks again.
very informative👌🏻
Gread vid. Just what I was afte. Thanks!
+SourSm4ck Glad I could help! :)
Nice explanation of trim.
Thank you, I'm glad it could help :)
Found it. Merci!
great, thank you!
Enxcellent video
Great. Thanks
Nice vid
very nice
I can't get the mouse to control my view, so I can't even see the trim wheel. Holding space doesn't work like some pages have said. 2d cockpit doesn't show trim wheel(?)
Whenever I pitch up or down, the nose keeps moving up and down repeatedly, then stops after 3-5 seconds and the rest of the ascent or descent is okay, till I pitch again. I'm using a default craft A321
By and large still work with fs2020, but my flight always have a rudder issue. Still not sure but it turns round and round by itself. Have to hold the joystick for 1 hour for a flight from Seattle to Vancouver.
Thanks for the good video. Im thinking about starting to try Flight simulation from absolute zero (I´ve watched some videos like this one), but I don´t know where to start from. Things about navigation seems something confusing to me (VOR, NDB, IFR, flight charts and stuff/acronyms like that) and I dont know where to start (I know that I need to learn with Cessna 172 first). Maybe visual flight and once learned the basics then proceeding to navigation? do you have some advice for a total beginner? Thanks!
Why do you need to put flaps at 10 degrees when taking off. Also is there any use for it whilst flying. When else do you use it
This is great, but correction, when you take off in a Cessna you don't use flaps
Can depend on the length of the runway
Question Doofer. What keyboard combination will allow you to not only get an external view of the aircraft your flying but allow you to move around the plane? i.e. pan left, pan right, tilt up, tilt down, again while viewing the plane externally. I see alot of TH-cam authors for FSX aviation videos using this technique but am unclear how to do it above and beyond the FSX standard "static" external viewing modes with my joystick.
This solve my problem
I'm searching for the first of your excellent & friendly tutorials. Can you gibve me a steer for the earliest one? Thanks.
+James G
Certainly, my first FSX one was a cockpit introduction: th-cam.com/video/DhKdHBwZN3o/w-d-xo.html
My first ever tutorial was for a game called TrackMania here: th-cam.com/video/wyKbjKJ_beY/w-d-xo.html
And you'll see that things have come on quite a bit!
can you please do a video talking about the oil, fuel and the other smaller gauges on the left of the panel
Not really, they're pretty self-explanatory.
Does the autopilot ever adjust trim tabs, or just the full elevator?
I just found your videos and just started with FSX. I have the same joystick , Logitech Extreme 3D Pro and can not get the top buttons programed to control flap or trim. Do you use the settings in FSX or the Logitech profiler? Great videos. Thanks
Nope I set them up in the FSX Settings, I personally have Flaps Up/Down (incremental) on the smaller top buttons and Pitch Trim Up/Down on the larger buttons. I also reduced the sensitivity on the joystick, I found that planes responded too quickly using the default sensitivity.
What resolution are you using? Your cockpit looks better and tighter than mine. Great learning vids!
1920x1080 (1080p).
Nice take-off! I don’t Know what is my problem but I can’t control the “yaw” during the take-off. I am using CH eclipse pedals and Ch eclipse yoke. The sensitivity is so high! I’m always drifting on the runway.....
Have you tried reducing the sensitivity in the options?
Thinks are so simple because your explanation, but how often we make correction using the trim wheel during the flight? Thanks a lot.
Usually you need to Trim when you're climbing, descending, leveling off or changing speed. The idea is to have the plane hold a constant pitch without having to hold it on the controls yourself.
I'm probably too late, but what are your graphics settings for FSX
I know this vid is fairly old. But what control axis is the actual trim control in control settings. There a couple. You vids are far better than the student lessons in FSX.
I don't know I'm afraid, I have my trim controls bound to buttons on my joystick.
@@Doofer911 yeah I eventually worked it out
him : realism settings for max realism
Allow collisions with other aircraft : Am I a joke to you?
You're dumb
Awesome videos! Anyway, are you using FSUIPC add-on? It's just that controlling the elevator using the Saitek Yoke is so hard, it's very bouncy & bubbly, putting it on easy mode helps but, I don't think it normal. Any ideas?
I don't use FSUIPC. The only thing I do to avoid that kind of problem is to ensure the aircraft is properly trimmed at all times.
Thanks let me read up on that.
Good video, my only question is how do you manage to level the airplane. Without it slightly climbing or descending?
Trim it as best as you can and then leave it. The plane will naturally settle and fly perfectly level.
I hear instructors say that the trim holds your speed. Can you explain?
Which simulator are you using?
I have the same joystick !!!
What are all the keyboard controls
Doofer- I see we have the same joystick. What buttons did you assign for the trims?
+Nick Tselepides Hey Nick, I use the two larger buttons on top for trim and the two smaller ones for flaps up/down
What joystick is that? I want to get exact one
Logitech Extreme 3d pro. I have it and its a very good joystick
Can a regular cheap joystick works like a yoke ? Im in a small town . Cant find any of that controller . If can , tell me how to set it up :) thanks for your attention .
+firdaus kh I don't think it's easy to convert a joystick into a yoke I'm afraid. The mechanics of how a joystick and a yoke work are completely different. A joystick which has a throttle slider/lever and that side to side "twist" is perfect for flying though. A lot of real world planes have joysticks instead of a yoke for controlling the plane. You know that HUGE Airbus A380 plane.... pilots of those use joysticks ;)
Once you find the degrees on the trim make note of it so it’s easier later
The thing is, Trim is often managed by "feel" in a real aircraft, so you'll rarely have a precise trim setting. It's something you need to adjust constantly as the plane changes speed, attitude and altitude.
Hi Doofer, I've just started in flight sim, I have FSX SE.. This video was a great help but the yoke needs a lot of movement before anything happens, how can I improve this? Thanks
+Bob Stokes Hey Bob, you could try turning up your controller sensitivity. I think I did that to get aircraft to feel more responsive.
+Doofer911 ok thanks, just have have a fiddle with It then to get somewhere near
Hi friend, thanks for the great instruction. May I have a questions: Your graphics seem much high res than mine even the control board (mine is FSX Steam Edition run on a decent gaming PC with all graphics settings set to max). Is that effect of some add-ons? Where I can get those?
Yeah I'm using UTX, GEX and REX for environmental addons. There's quite a few online flight sim stores you can buy those addons from.
In my early videos I had the DVD version but I later switched to Steam Edition once the performance benefits became clear
im learnding...
I just bought FSX and I'm very new to this. My Attitude meter is missing from the control panal. Any Ideas.
Maybe try a re-install? Also, when you start the sim, you may be asked to activate or disable some .dll files. Make sure you allow all of those to work.
How do you trim the aileron? I can set the elevator trim but when I let go, the plane automatically rolls to the left but yours doesn't
There is no aileron trim on a cessna 172?
@@krishnannarayanan8819 How do you keep your plane from not turning?
ayyy i have the same joystick
Trying these excellent lessons again after a break from Flight Simming. Got a decent PC now so all good. The problem I have, that I keep having, is with getting the trim set properly. I have followed the instructions, but every time I try to trim for level flight it ends up shooting past 0 on the vsi and puts me either into nose up or nose down. Don't seem to be able to find the sweet spot as easily as you do. I have a Black Widow flight stick with two buttons assigned to trim. Any more suggestions ??. Ps. videos are awesome :)
+Matthew Hinchliffe Hey Matthew, glad my videos are helping! :) As for the Trim, are you holding down the buttons or tapping them? I usually tap the trim button to make tiny adjustments. In the sim, if you hold it down it will adjust the trim slowly then suddenly speed up if you continue to hold it. So what I do is tap the button and slowly get the trim into the correct position. Hope that helps, if not let me know and I'll see if there's any other tips out there
+Doofer911 Yeah, the videos are great, tbh I think I am probably holding the buttons down, I'll try tapping them and see what happens. Every time I've tried learning to hand fly rather than using the autopilots, I get frustrated at this point heh. I'll persevere with it and hopefully it'll become second nature :) Thanks again.
+Matthew Hinchliffe Learning to fly it manually is great! Will definitely help you understand how the aircraft behaves when you do certain things so it's worth learning. It's really rewarding to manually get the trim set and get the plane perfectly balanced. And you're right, once you figure it out, it is second nature ;)
+Doofer911 Just wanted to say thanks for your comments and videos. After a few attempts I've more or less managed to get straight and level. Done a couple of flights between local airfields and was able to get it more or less level. I think I was being too impatient and not letting the aircraft settle after making changes. I better learn to land the thing now !!!
@@Doofer911 Thanks for the "tap" tip.
Need some help.
During take off at the runway, the Carenado PA46 Meridian always steer to the right. I tried everything, trim the rudder, check google for help, but still having the same problem. What have I done wrong?
Secondly, while cruising or climbing, when auto pilot is activated, the plane goes out of control, it pitch up very high or dive to the ground, why is that so?
Never have these problems with FSX nor PDMG planes.
Not sure, you might have to raise it on Carenado's forums to see if anyone else has had the same issues. If it's not happening with any other planes, then you can at least narrow it down to that specific product.
Noted thanks
I know what is the issue. There is 200lbs passenger sitted on the right side of the plane, after removing the passenger, the plane doesn't steer to the right during take off.
I am finding these tutorials helpful, however i seem to have a problem my Cessna 172 is banking left with no input and it is hard get everything else right while having to correct it. i notice from your videos that you do not have this problem. I have calibrated my Thrustmaster Hotas X so i cannot understand why it is happening.
Maybe wind, maybe P-factor ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-factor ).. or maybe a windows error. There was a similar issue with the logitech yoke which was extremely annoying.(www.flightsim.com/vbfs/showthread.php?260158-Saitek-Pro-Flight-Yoke-LEFT-DRIFT). Check out if the fix presented does work with your HOTAS as well.
still dont know
and never knew
Wonder if force feedback might make trimming easier
It certainly would!
Xcelent
Doesnt trimming increase drag in the lo g flight, thus burnung more fuel?
Nope
When the plane settles the elevator trim tab will always be level to the ground, although the entire plane will be in a slight angle based on the position of the trim tab when set.
@ 7:55 - 8:46 I know you mentioned how you have the trim controls mapped to a couple of buttons on your joystick, but what if you still do not have a joystick/yoke made for flight sim. I constantly have trouble whenever I cruise, because I do not have a joystick/yoke. I have to use a mouse; and when I try to uncheck the 'Mouse Yoke' option I can't keep it at a level cruise because the plane either pitches too high up or too down. So, I wish I could adjust the trim automatically, but I do not have the flight simulator equipment to. Is there a solution to this? Thanks for reading and have a nice day. (P.S. I am already up to the Air Traffic Control tutorial in the series, but I went back on this video to add this little comment.)
I think it's 9 and 3 on the numpad, or 7 and 1.
Doofer911 it’s been 2 years since I left that message lol. I used to watch your videos all the time and I used to be a massive AvGeek but I took a massive break to pursue rollercoasters and become a coaster enthusiast. Also life got busy with sports and other things. I am going to start watching your FSX tutorials again because they really not only taught me how to understand, FSX but understand some aviation terminology. You did an incredible job, producing these well done tutorials and you best believe how appreciative I am for them. I want to thank you for being a blessing of my childhood for FSX. I don’t know if you remember me but I was the beginner rookie guy who would go on your streams and in your comments asking a multitude of questions. Again, I’d like to thank you and thank you for giving me the chance to learn how to love aviation. From, Zach.
LOL I followed this to the letter and immediately went nose up barrelling down the runway in every direction and never made it above 40 knots. Probably something to do with binding my rudder/tail/etc to QWEASD keys.
Yeah FSX is a really tough game to play with only a keyboard.
Doofer911 in fsx my cessna keeps on banking to the left is there anyway to stop it without constantly having my control column slightly to the right
Hey Havoc, Check under the Realism settings in FSX, there should be one called P-Factor, make sure this one is turned down all the way. That might help the issue.
Thank you very much its fixed
Doofer911 what is p factor?
The full name "Propeller Factor" gives it away. Although the prop. "disk" is symmetrical, there is a slight thrust difference between the port and starboard sides - this happens in the "real world" with real aircraft too, and is obviously a speed effect. I don't know if simulation packages have rudder trim, but that's how you fix the problem. Alternatively invest in a nice modern aircraft with a constant speed, variable pitch prop which goes a very long way to eliminate this particular hassle :-)
@@phils4634 thank you for taking time to explaine. Very cool.
What's your joystick name ?
It's a Logitech Extreme 3D Pro I think
why don't you enable "engine stress damages engine" in realism settings?
Because it's a complication beginner pilots don't need to worry about
you gain speed when you level off because you improve the aerodynamics of the plane, it doesnt have to do with gravity.
That's true, this was one of my earliest videos so my understanding of flight was a little weaker than it is now
Can u pls increase the video's audio volume using video edit software pls :). I can't hear quite well.. :D
+Gokul R Menon The volume should be better in later videos :)
OK thx :D
How do you zoom in the camara!?
Hold Spacebar and roll the mouse wheel
How do you advance the throttle
F1 to go straight to Idle, F2 to slowly decrease throttle, F3 to slowly increase, F4 to go straight to Full throttle
We have the same controller! Someday when money is falling out of my butt I'll get that Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS... someday
Hi Doofer,
I think you might have answer this before. WHere can I download a flight simulator for cessna172 like yours and practise at home? Is there a link? Can I use it with keyboard/mouse only (I have no joystick).
Thanks
+Alan Wu Hi Alan, the simulator I use is "Microsoft Flight Simulator X: Steam Edition" which you can buy on the Steam website (Steam is like an online store for games). If you don't have that, you can still get the original Flight Simulator X which comes on a CD.
It is possible to fly with a mouse and keyboard however you may struggle a little bit controlling the plane like that. I'm not sure where in the world you are but you can get a joystick for as little as £15 and it will make your flying experience much easier and much more fun.
Thanks Doofer.
I am located in Canada. Before I purchase it, I would like to know whether it will only work on one computer after I install onto that one particular computer OR I am able to switch back and forth between computers (laptop and desktop)? I am asking because I am new to Steam and I want to be able to use the simulator with my desktop at home and also use it with my laptop when not at home.
Also,I dont recall you mentioning the control of carb heat in the video. Do we get to control that in the simulation? Thanks!
+Alan Wu Yep, the joystick will definitely work on both your laptop and desktop. Best to make sure you get a joystick with a USB connection just to be safe.
As for Carb Heat, there are some aircraft in the sim which let you adjust the carb heat, then again I might be confusing that with Cowl Flaps. I think some aircraft in the sim do have extra controls for controlling the temperature of the engine but I'm not sure how accurately modelled this is. As far as I know, the Cessna 172 in FSX is a varient which does not have carb heat, it has direct fuel injection instead.
I meant the "Microsoft Flight Simulator X: Steam Edition" itself (from Steam website). If i purchase and install it using my desktop, can I use it on my laptop too?
Sorry for confusion,
Alan
How do you get such a smooth, lag free game. I have a GTX960M GAMING LAPTOP, AND MY GAE WONT RUN THIS NICE. wHAT ARE YOUR SETINGS?
What processor do you have? FSX is a more CPU intensive game rather than graphics intensive.
Doofer911 I have the dell Inspiron 15 7559 with Nvidia GTX960M 4GB and 6th Gen Core i7 6700HQ
Hmm, you might be struggling to have the settings high up on a laptop. Have you tried lowering the settings at all?
Doofer911 I've tried but most of my settings are set from high to ultra (just how I like to play and my computer should be able to handle it since it can handle more demanding games like gta 5). I would like to know the best option for the frame limiter. Should I set it to unlimited or is it best to place it on a specific limit amount?
I recommend unlimited for the frame limiter because it takes CPU power to limit the FPS. Also, try plugging in your laptop when you try to play and see how it works then.
What joystick do you use
Logitech Extreme 3D Pro
Matt Leeb b
Seems like a good video and explanation but your volume recording was set too low and can barely hear you at all
Yeah this was one of my first videos for a long time, my newer vids have better quality :)
BRO I HAVE THAT EXACT SAME JOYSTICK LMAO
Are you a pilot
Nope, just a flight sim enthusiast.
can someone help me with the hotkeys I can never remember them
To begin with...
F1 - Throttle Idle
F2 - Reduce Throttle incrementally
F3 - Increase Throttle incrementally
F4 - Full Throttle
F5 - Retract Flaps Fully
F6 - Retract Flaps Incrementally
F7 - Extend Flaps Incrementally
F8 - Extend Flaps Fully
' (apostrophe) - Open/Close ATC window
G - Raise/Lower Landing Gear
L - All Lights On/Off
. (full stop) - Brake
CTRL + . - Parking Brake On
(hold) Spacebar + Mouse Movement - Look around
(hold) Spacebar + Mousewheel - Zoom View
thank you for responding to my comment so fast and having such a helpful reply
No problem! I've found that those are the most common keyboard buttons I used before transferring some of those actions onto joystick buttons.
yeah dude its so much help im using a ps4 controller rn
Tip: IRL, make a checklist.
No need, planes will have checklists made anyway. No need for a pilot to make one them self.
I thought after takeoff, you trim and pitch for 80 knots
I did a lesson and it told me nothing which is why im here
They're horrible right?
Can you please speak up in your videos? Thanks! (I know I'm 3 years late but whatever)
It doesn't matter how you're late.. I still come back to these videos to learn from them
what if i dont have enough money for a joystick
You can still fly with the keyboard, or save up for one. A basic joystick that will do the job perfectly isn't that expensive.
Trim is useless..!!
I beg to differ. During takeoff in a simulator you can't appreciate it as you don't have any real "feeling" or force feedback. In a real plane, with the trim set incorrectly, when you pull back, you'll feel like lifting weights! With the trim set correctly, it's like lifting a bag of sugar, much less effort required making the plane easier to control.
"you can find a cheap joystick now a days for around 10$"
literally doesn't exist
thanks for the false hope
0:29 - 0:36 "I would strongly recommend getting a joystick to fly with. It makes controlling the plane so much easier and you can pick one up cheap nowadays." ....... Be more accurate if you're going to throw criticism at someone.