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- Today we complete our beginners' journey and bring the plane back home as we look at descending and landing the plane. We will also cover a little bit of flying lingo and learn some valuable information used when approaching a runway.
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Now retired and decided to learn to fly in the FSX Sim, found this video so helpful, going to find previous ones and start from the first one. So pleased to have found your channel. Your production and instructions are first class. My sincere thanks 🛩
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It's been almost a decade since your videos were made, yet I still refer to them from time to time. Someone should give you a medal for creating such a fine series.
FINALLY, Finally, someone is doing an awesome job, to explain in great detail, how to land the Cessna 172. It's a real good addition to the tutorials lessons of FSX! Both thumps up!!
Perfect! So I am not stupid after all. Your very good. You should be a teacher because you know what is perfect to say and what should not be said to avoid confusion. You have a perfect
balance!
I really enjoy the way you present the instructions. No yelling, no excitement. Just a calm attitude and easy to listen to. It's really hard for me to believe you don't have a pilot license, just a lot of time in the sim. This should be something everyone viewing it should see.
Thank you for your kind comments. I don't have the money for a license sadly so I've been using flight simulation as a way to study so that when I do have the money, I shouldn't have to spend as much time on Ground School work so I can focus more on time in the air.
Re PAPI/VASI
If you're seeing all green lights, you are extremely low and what you are seeing is the light shining through the grass!!1 ;)
Danny Whittingham lmao
FSX has not only made me a fair simulator pilot with the help of videos like yours but to be quite honest it is sometimes difficult enough I also need to give it credit for my improved drinking skills as well.
It has only taken slightly more then 300 hours of practice just learning how to take off and land the Boeing 747-400 the correct and safe way and do it pretty much consecutively each time but now when I get into the Cessna it's like going from a Tractor Trailer to a Volkswagen bug and having the much faster reaction scares the hell out of me some times. I guess The biggest mistake I or anyone else could make with FSX is starting out big instead of working your way up from the smaller planes first. It will sure save you money on buying alcohol anyway..LOL!
I fly the C172 pretty often in FSX but my latest landing was a bloody disaster. I needed three attempts as the first and second try ended in crashing the aeroplane. On my third attempt, however, I managed to finally land but had a tail strike. A FSX-flying session to forget! :D
I'm learning to fly and land a Cessna 172P using Flightgear and I find your instructional videos using FSX to be clear, concise and educational. Keep up the sterling good work !!
I'm glad my videos are helping :D
I was getting very frustrated with the lack of clarity of some of the tutorial lessons in FSX, but you have made things clear by "talking through" everything in real time. Thank you.
Keep in mind that you are making a very slow approach. Ideally in the 172, you put out your first stage of flap at 110kts, then at 3nm final stage 2 at 85, and reduce speed to 75. Final approach at 500 feet you reduce your speed to 70kts with third stage of flap. The slowest you should be going is 65kts which is final approach speed for short field landings.
Umm I'm sure you've gained more aviation knowledge by now, but you never deploy flaps past 80kts; it is out of the safety white arc. That would damage the flaps severely
@@harryroberts388I know my response is slightly late, but the FSX landing checklist for the Cessna 172 tells you to use one notch of flaps at less than 110kts (10 degrees
I've been playing FSX lately. I was not really that good, mainly because of landing (all sorts of issues, overrunning, falling short, not lining up, not flaring). I just played the Hawaiian Checkout mission and passed. The funny part was as I was entering the pattern, the glideslope indicators were behind trees, and I don't like not seeing my instruments during landing. I stuck to the basics taught in this video of throttle for vertical airspeed and stick for horizontal airspeed. I still managed to hit the runway on the target and was actually able to stop. Excellent explanation of how to land a plane.
I hope i'm not late. Just recently trying to learn how to land and have to admit this is the best tutorial. Been trying to understand what the numbers mean on the landing strip. Thanks a lot. i'll subscribe because of this video.
Welcome to the channel, glad this video could help :) if you want a more in-depth video about runway markings, I've done another tutorial at this link: th-cam.com/video/lzx5j1C984M/w-d-xo.html
I just watched your first 3 tutorials and I successfully landed my first plane properly...I think
Thanks man, it's really clear and easy to follow, you've helped me learn the basics.
Congrats! :D I'm so glad my videos could help!
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!! Now look what you've done!!! You've inspired me to take up flight simulator again!! 😜
Very nice and informative videos. Thanks a lot
I find your videos not only educational but entertaining as well. Straight to the point and well explained.
+William loan Wow, I'm surprised to hear my video being described as entertaining, thanks very much! :)
i know for a long time fsx was used in ground schools. i subscribed. these videos show both a seasoned simmer as well as a beginner ( im kinda between the two) the proper way of doing this. thank you
Already watched a couple of your videos; very very helpful. Thank you.
Fascinating! Palms became sweaty as we descended below 500' , felt so life-like!
thank you this helped me a lot I was really struggling but putting the theory behind it kind of put it in perspective:)
I'm really glad this could help! :)
Popping in to let you know these are still being put to very useful use! Useful, I say! Thanks.
"It is difficult," Yes. I got the readings wrong on the altimeter and so busy looking at the instruments I forgot to look at the runway markings. I played again at 0.75 speed and gained more sense. Good video. Liked.
Thank you so much for these videos. I'm taking pilot lessons right now in the US. I was having problems comprehending the AFD and VOR/ILS systems. But after watching your videos, its becoming clearer to me as to how/why they work. I've been getting my knowledge from a book and some of it is clear as mud! So, thank you very much, not only are these awesome for FSX, but very useful in real world flying as well!
+Marvin Radtke Wow, I'm glad my videos can help with real world application! I'm not certified in anyway though so trust what your CFI says over anything I say! haha
Mighty helpful videos. Thanks for all these astounding details
Really glad I found your video's on MFSX. I hope Microsoft are paying you for these tutorials lol..
I have watched a few of these short "lessons" that you produce, they are concise and well explained, very clear to understand so I imagine that anyone who comes into flight simming from new will find these very helpful. An asset to newbies mate, Shame is this sort of thing could not be found when I first jumped into FSX ;) it would have been so much easier to get used to Flight simulation. Great stuff and I like the way you break things down to individual components per vid. :D
Hey Guss, thank you for the very kind comment! Glad my videos are coming across as intended! :)
This was so beautifully done, and your voice is relaxing. Thank you!
That's very kind of you to say :)
Beautifully done and explained. I kindof learnt what i could not grab till now about landing from this video. Thanks for the effort and sharing.
nice and clear video thanks very much
+Roy Baker You're welcome mate!
I'm really loving this series! I've no previous knowledge in flying, but like to study it as a hobby, so this series is gold for me. Thanks for sharing and congratulations for your teaching skills, very clear and direct to the point explanations :)
I'm really glad my videos can help you with this hobby! :)
Your actually a legend, thank you for this! :)
I'm the same as the Mature Simulator, I've already retired, and I'm learning to fly, even in the Fly Simulator, and your videos are really fine, there are things I did not know, I was following the FS in Tutorial & Beginner, but It does not bring any real explanation of the instruments and I felt that I was not learning, but with your videos and the details you give this very well and very interesting, thank you Doofer911
Hey JJ, I'm really glad my videos are helping with your study, hope you're enjoying learning about aviation! :)
Thanks for the video. Especially the explanation of the PASI and VASI lights and what the runway markings are.
You're welcome, glad the video could help :)
Your videos are always great, thank you sir. My sons and I are currently planning a simulator build and these videos do help our decision making.
Ah that's fantastic that your sons are interested in flight simming as well! :D
Thanks. Your 'tubes are some of the best i've been able to find.
i'm one of the 'visual' learning type and find your presentation style casual and very informative. Please continue.
Thank you for the kind comment, will do!
Cette vidéo est très intéressante merci beaucoup
Thanks for that Doofer911. That was top notch mate - VERY clear, concise and understandable. I'm subscribed!!
Woah this really helped me with landings. And just in time; a day before fs2020 :D
Hi Doofer921 I have just come a cross your channel .as a newbie am glad that I did I have watched a lot of other vids about flying but I must say yours is by far the best I've seen obviously I will be watching all your videos .and I appreciate what you are doing it's certainly helping me especially the way you were on the GPS.ill keep watching and saving your vids as you make them because they are most constructed than any other.thanks again.
HI im 11 years old and when i am big, i want to become a pilot. So, your tutorials are helping me in fsx to learn. Thank you.
You're welcome, glad my videos can help :) I'm certain that you'll become a pilot one day!
Best landing video I’ve seen. Thank you!
Very helpful video. You had just enough explanation and detail to make it helpful. Thanks.
You're welcome, I'm really glad my video could help :)
Now navigation ILS, great video really helped me for dcs world.
literally going through all your videos to learn for fs 2020
very educational men. I'm so thankful i find your chanel
Thank you for watching, I'm glad you like the channel :)
Great video. I'm practicing landing at the moment and this video helps illustrate practicing my sim the techniques required to take to the sky and transfer those instincts to the real thing. Great job Doofer!!
Best of luck! Always remember to take anything a registered CFI says over anything I've said in my videos haha
No doubt. Although I will tell you that your approach to landing is similar to that of a CFI instructor, so great job my friend. Your vids are a great illustration and refresher course. I think a CFI would agree. Best-
wow, very high praise indeed! Thank you very much :D
I learned to fly (the "real thing") decades ago, and in those days we didn't have much "electronic assistance". I can certainly state that if you had been doing these videos in the 1970's it would have made my learning experience far, FAR more enjoyable. I know you are a "Simulator" pilot, but have you ever thought of doing "The Real Thing"?? Expensive I'll admit, but there is nothing like "being up there", even in a small 'plane such as the ubiquitous Skyhawk!
Yeah the only thing stopping me from doing it for real is a lack of money at the moment. One of my life goals is to earn a Private Pilots License.
Doofer911 Well my PPL has lapsed owing to (significant!) old age and lack of regular flight hours! The problem was funds (check!) and the added issue of annual flight hours and continual education, especially since, my "real" job was pretty demanding time-wise. I would very much like to continue flying, but the cost of aircraft hire (VERY high in Australia) just to get the annual hours in is just too much. Don't even think of buying your own 'plane - our "entry-level" Jabiru's are bloody expensive (for what they are - no glass cockpit for you), and the added recurrent costs (insurance / maintenance / parking / runway fees) are very high. Joint or club ownership is a problem since there's not much fairness where the attraction of "getting up there on someone else's dime" is concerned (been there!), so unless you are of substantial "independent means" it can be a VERY costly hobby.
@Doofer911, Excellent video, very helpful and informative in many different points I've struggled to figure out during FSX landing attempts, all answered here in this one video. Glad i found your video and channel. Thank You!
+Andre Silva (Metalskin) Hey Andre, glad my video could help :)
Nice job for not being a pilot. You're very close to what my CFI taught me.
For landings, my CFI taught me to say a little rhyme to myself; "Hi or Low, Fast or Slow". This focused my eyes on whether the runway sight picture was high or low [and make the adjustment, if necessary], and if my airspeed was fast or slow [and make the pitch adjustment, if necessary. The other teaching was simple rudder inputs to keep aligned. Once I taught my brain this little rhyme, it changed my landing habits greatly.
With so many possible things to think about during the landing, this little rhyme made me focus on the 3 basic inputs to master.
Continue with the FSX. Hopefully soon, you can get into the real thing. Kudos! -joe
Hi Joe, thanks for your kind comment. I'll definitely try that rhyme next time I'm practicing landings, sounds perfect for keeping your eyes out of the instruments which is what VFR flying is all about. Cheers!
Cheers!
Thank you so much for this one🤝🏻
Thank you for these Tutorials. Great Teaching Skills. Cheers for helping ; Learning to fly in MSF sim 2020.
Very nice tutorial.
Amazing tutorials even though I have over 100 hours on flight Sim I still learnt things I didn't know, thanks!
I'm glad this video could help you learn some new things :)
Great tutorial, man. Can you also explain how to line up with the runway? Thanks
Clear explanation! You're a good teacher :) Nice landing BTW, despite that Caravan taking off! :D
Daan Meere Thanks for the compliment :) Yeah got a bit hairy at the end there! Quickly learned to do future videos without AI! lol
Why? It was a nice addition
Exactly what 'Stewart Wilkinson Snr' said. Thank you :)
Hey thanks doofer , good to watch.
happy new year doofer911
Belated Happy New Year to you too!
Absolutely brilliant have added all to favorites
I was having a lot of trouble on my landing approaches, but they're looking way better now that I actually understand the glide scope! Thanks! +1 Sub, and I liked :)
That's fantastic, congrats on your newfound skills! :D
Doofer911 Just a question, I started using the same ultra realistic settings that you use, and I encountered a problem in flight that I am not sure how to fix. When flying the Cessna 172, when I extend the first stage of flaps and begin slowing, the plane starts rapidly ascending despite me desperately trying to decrease the throttle and descend. It ascends roughly 50 feet per 10 seconds, even when the throttle is idle. After roughly 30 seconds to 1 minute, the plane starts to descend as normal. I suspect the issue may be with the trim that I use for landing, with the wheel being pushed a few centimetres forward, but after some testing, altering the trim did not help. Do you have any idea on how to fix this? Thanks.
EDIT: The issue may also be associated with my airspeed, usually I try to begin descending at between 70 and 80 Nauts.
More flaps = More Lift. Try descending between 60-70 knots.
Doofer911 OK, I'll try it out, thanks!
THANK YOU VERY MUCH LONG TIME NO PRACTICE FS-X
I'm glad my video could help, thanks for watching :)
Your videos are very good! Thanks for all the time you must put into them.
+Dennis Kuzel You're welcome, I'm glad they're helping you :)
you are just awesome man ! the richest content for the flight simulator ever
Thanks a lot, that was beautiful!
When u put the flaps down and nose goes up. It's called ballooning, as a pilot u should stop the nose from rising with forward push on the control column.
Another excellent video. Learned a lot from you. Thank you mate
You're welcome, glad my videos could help :)
very good videos, thanks for these. very informative and a great pace.
Nice landing Mr Doofer. Thanks a lot for the time and effort put in to make theses tutorials they have been so helpful to me as a noob :)
Thank you! this tutorial helped me make my first runway landing!
Woohoo! Congrats! :D Glad I could help
your video is so much helpful for a newbie like me ... keep up the good job
Fantastic, that was my focus when making the video :)
A good video my friend .i can now improve the technique of landing a small aircraft. Thanks a lot,Blessing!
I'm glad my video could help, thanks for watching :)
Liked your videos! Please make more of them. Thanks.
Very good, thanks
hey, thanks great stuff.. u make me proud to be a descended Scot!
thumbs up..
Excellent!
great work
Great video, good graphics and correct procedures being used. Keep up the good work.
Thanks Richard, I'm glad you liked it and that what I was talking about is accurate!
Very well done !
Thanks very much, glad you liked it :)
Think the videos are fantastic, keep them coming.
good information. I have just purchased x-plane 10, and am starting to try and fly it.
wayland
+wayland woolsey Hey Wayland, welcome to the world of flight simming! I know my videos are based on FSX but I hope you can still learn something from them :)
You are a very good teacher! I will pratice my landings. Thank you for the informations. Guy
loving those vids but that 911 username tho O_O
The pull before the runway its called FLARING usually Flaring done on the thereshold of the runway and at 10-20 ft
Wow! Very informative video I have watched so far! Thanks for sharing :). I am flying planes since long on FSX, but most of the times, I have used online literature for it, and some youtube videos. But this is the best video, I ever found.
Thank you for the kind words and thank you for watching, I'm glad it could help :)
Great Vids man, very instructional, entertaining and accurate. Keep it up!
Will do, thanks for the kind comment :)
Wonderful
Thanks for that very well explained
In a C172R, power 1500rpm and 95kts = 500ft/min. For each degree of flaps take off 10kts, flaps 10 85kts, flaps 20 75kts, flaps full 65kts. Final should be full flaps 65kts, adjust power for descent rate and just hold the airspeed with pitch.
Great thanks very helpfull
Love watching your videos Doofer. Thank you :)
You're welcome, thanks very much for watching :)
There's another type of PAPI or VASI in FSX (also in fs9, maybe fs2002) in Australian airports such as YMML, YSSY etc. These use only white lights with a bar of lights at the center. Then there's white dot lights above and below the bar to indicate if you're up or down from the desired angle. These are very different (and a lot harder to read lol). have you heard of them before?
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I've never heard of that style, very interesting!
You did a great job, but forgot to include why and when you would use the flaps. What setting, what affect does it have on the plane and how to incorporate that in maintaining glide slope!
I think I didn't talk about flaps in detail because the focus for this video was to get people who were COMPLETELY new to flying comfortable with just getting a plane on the ground without having to worry about the physics, procedures, V-Speeds etc
Excellent thanks!
You're welcome :)
your videos have helped me alot when i am trying to land. I have always to much speed :P :D Thanks!!!
Great instruction video, i have become guilty of relying on autopilot too mucn so these videos are really helpful :)
Yeah it's always great to return to GA every now and then and hand fly some of these aircraft, helps keep your skills sharp!
Thanks doofer really helpd me out all of it :)
Glad my video could help :)
Thank you so much ! really really helpful stuff !
Tom A You're welcome mate, glad my videos are helping you!
very good
i saw you were quiet busy on your landing, i would start full flaps on Cessna, it could give you easy 75 knots to land at 500 ft per M, your plane did not landing itself because of the configuration between speed trim and flaps, however good video !
Great Tutorial as ever, I'm slowly getting to grips with FSX. I'm trying to concentrate on getting my landings sorted, but I'm a bit unsure as to how far out from the airport you are beginning your descent ? I seem to be getting in line etc, but I'm nearly always too low and too far away from the runway. I'm also usually too fast so end up ballooning up into the air when I cut the throttle and attempt to touchdown.
Well done again on the superb tutorials :)
+Matthew Hinchliffe It varies depending on how you approach the airport. What I usually do is aim to be at 2000ft above ground level at 6nm away from the airport. That should get you pretty close to the Glideslope, then you can follow it down to the runway. As for the speed, you want to be coming over the threshold at about 55-60 knots. Then as you flare the speed will come down a little further and the plane should settle gently onto the runway. It is a lot to try and get right in one go but stick with it! It will become second nature