I have always had a hard time finding headphones wide enough to wear comfortably all day long. I have big curly hair! Haha♡ Would you consider making a video on the headphones that Sweetwater carries, and size them small to large?♡? That would really help me solve my shopping for headphones problem! Thanks again!♡ be well :)
sir, i know this is off topic but can i ask you about sennheiser hd 280 pro, can i use it on my pc with onboard soundcard alc 1200, the Standard output is ≤ 1.1 Vrms (32 Ω) and the hd 280 pro has 60 Ω impedance, or a dedicated soundcard is a must?
I'm listening to this with the DT770M 80ohm version. Not by design, just happened that way. All jokes aside, I use these for casual listening, and they sound great.
So interesting. Decided to use my backup headphones yesterday at my dj event. The 32 ohm headphones were significantly louder than the 95 ohm ones I usually use. Both are designed to dj with. Almost thought the 95 ohm were broken or dying out.
I recently need to get a new set of headphone and did my research and decided I wanted the DT770 32ohm. I called myt Sweetwater sales person but they were busy so I talked to someone else. I couldn't believe they kept telling me impedance doesn't matter. I kept tell them these cans are going to be used in a low power setup so I want low impedance. Finally just told them just order what I want period. Got the phones and very happy with them. Some of your 2nd tier sales people need to watch this video.
bro the daisy chaining bit saved my 770s frm being returned. im trying to find an amp tht has 80+ ohm output so i can get the most outta my 770s thx for the help
My 300 ohm headphones are most definitely. You do not acknowledge vacuum tube headphone amps. Some of the old 600 ohm phones were very good indeed. Your comment was honest but diplomatic.
Ok so i bought the m50x and an interface witch is 35omh i think and it sounds terrible so if i i buy a 80omh or 250omh will it sound good on the Interface??
I have the MOTU M6 audio interface in my cart along with a few pairs of headphones. (I hear the MOTU M6 headphone amp provides 190mW @ 55ohms). A (seemingly wise) TH-cam audiophile told me to pair the M6 with 80Ω headphones. ...but a MOTU sales rep said that "headphones over 200Ω is optimal". Julian says that you should x8 the amp impedance with headphone impedance. ...but another tech TH-camr said to _match_ the amp/headphone impedance. _WHAT GIVES!?_
Thanks for the video! I am looking at the Beyerdynamics and was wondering if should go for the 80 ohm of the 250 ohm. Now between the power requirements and the coil cable on the 250 Vs the straight cable on the 80, I am going to get the 80 ohm.
I have the DT 770 Pro 80 ohms headphones. Should I be using a headphone amp? The only thing I have to drive it is my Focusrite Scarlett Solo or MacBook Pro headphone out.
Your interface usually has more than enough power to push volume. You should consider getting a headphone amp if you crack your volume knob all the way up and you don't get enough volume. This is more noticeable in cellphones. Put in a 250ohm on your cellphone and then put a regular cheap headphone and you will see a drastic volume difference.
Hi, Jeff! A headphone amp wouldn't be necessary for the 80 Ohm version of those headphones. You should be totally fine without one. Hope that helps, and thanks for reaching out! Corey Elliott, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1242, corey_elliott@sweetwater.com
I'm still not sure what kind of amp section the Focusrite interfaces are equipped with. One thing for sure is the MacBook alone will not have enough amp power for really driving those phones. And if the Audio interface volume out is too quiet with the Beyers, I would get a good solid desktop headphone amp and use that between the MacBook and the interface, for sure.
i am trying to side chain and master tracks. would a 250 ohm pair of headphones and an amp help me with hearing the difference of an unmastered track and a mastered track ?
Hey Andrew, good question! While high impedance headphones can definitely perform very linearly and deliver very precise audio, they also require a much more robust headphone amp to run properly. Because of that, they are not a solution all by themselves. If you are running a USB Bus powered interface like a 2i2, you would likely not be able to power 250 ohm headphones properly to get the sound levels you desire. Couple things we can do at this point. We can use a proper headphone amp with the high impedance headphones, like the Little Labs Monotor. There are also just some fantastic low impedance headphones that are extremely detailed and neutral in response like the Shure SRH1540. If you would like to dig in, please give me a ring! Drake Sobehrad, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 3271, drake_sobehrad@sweetwater.com
Hey, Alex! We have quite a few options, but a couple of my favorites are the Rupert Neve headphone amp, or the RME DA converter: www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/ADI2DACFS--rme-adi-2-dac-fs-2-channel-da-converter www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/RNHP--rupert-neve-designs-rnhp-1-ch-precision-headphone-amplifier Either of these options will give you plenty of output to properly drive those headphones. I hope this helps! Nick Pasquino, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 3230, nick_pasquino@sweetwater.com
@@sweetwater hey, thanks for the recommendations, do you have any suggestions for something less pricey? 😅 I was thinking around £100 budget. I bought the 400ohm headphones accidentally and the store I got them from refused yo accept a return because the box was opened 🙃
I have creative G6 (handles up to 600ohms) for gaming, will I see a difference in sound quality with a DT 770 pro 80 or 250ohms? I understand the power side of things, more power needed to handle higher ohms, but no one actually talks about quality of the sound. e.g. If my setup has no issue handling 80 or 250ohms, and sound output is similar (don't like it to high) is there any sound quality differences>?
Hello, Guy! This is a great question, and one without a simple answer. Impedance refers to the current a device consumes in order to operate - or in more technical terms, a device’s resistance to electrical current. More so than anything, the design of the headphone will impact impedance as well as sound quality, but the two are not necessarily linked. There are low impedance headphones that arguably sound better than high impedance headphones. It just depends. The DT770s are a great example to look at. As the impedance of the models increase, the diameter of the wires in the voice coil decrease, allowing for smaller gaps between windings and because of this, a greater magnetic field and thus less distortion. This article goes into great detail on this topic: www.headphonesty.com/2019/04/headphone-impedance-demystified/ Thanks for the interest! Cody Kraus, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1766, cody_kraus@sweetwater.com
I own the CLabs G6 and use it for my primary PC and desktop amp and to drive some powered Logitech 2.1 THX speakers. The G6 will power both DT versions,' but I think what you'll find is that you'll have to crank the G6 volume higher to get a similar output overall level from the 250 ohms version as compared to the 80 ohm version, or under. That seems to true with my two different pairs of Hifiman planar headphones, even though they're low impedance mainly, they still require more juice to get the same level as my dynamic phones or IEMs. I only need a tenth of power on the G6 to drive say, a basic pair of dynamic IEMs or headphones. As for sound quality, the 250 ohm version may actually sound better overall than the 80 ohm version, but that's difficult to say. I have the G6 so I would think they would both sound similar, but require more power for the 250 ohm version to drive them, at least. You may have better results for the 250 ohm Beyers with a much better and more powerful headphone amp., like a better IFI amp, or an AudioEngine desktop amp, etc. There could be a world of quality difference between the 80 and 250 ohm Beyers, but you'd have to test both with the same amp (and/or different amps) to find out for sure.
At the end of the day all you care about is to find out if given hp amp can deliver high enough voltage to your high impedance headphones to enable loud enough playback. Unfortunately those specs are not published, instead they publish impedances, mW@Z figures, all irrelevant if your hp amp can not deliver amplitude to take advantage of its full power in case of high impedance cans. You can not drive 250ohm headphones wirh amp with 300mV maximum output level.
Correct, a waste of money and time, you would need to invest in a very robust amp of whatever kind that can drive those headphones efficiently, and with some power to spare.
Nope, still kinda dumb. I just ordered DT770’s (250) for the sole purpose of using it with the helix floor. Which also happens to be an audio interface. So did I buy the right ones??
This is not quite true! What drives headphone impedance is amper turns. All things being equal, a headphone of 200 ohms vs. an 8 ohm headphone is that the 200 ohm unit will draw less current hence making your battery last longer. What makes a 200 ohm headphone is MORE WIRE, AND THINNER WIRE. This results in a greater magnetic field with the same input current and hence the same volume with reduced current draw. In the days of Crystal Radios, headphones of up to 4000 ohms were used to get sufficient volume from the miniscule current provided by the no-power radio!
Hey, Alvaro. Thanks for reaching out! You may or may not need a headphone amp for your DT700 depending on what you’re using them for. Typically it’s best to just try them out and if they are too quiet just get a simple headphone amp and you’ll be good to go. If you have any other questions feel free to call or email! Jack Wellington, Sweetwater Sale Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 3240, jack_wellington@sweetwater.com
That impedance is not super high, but it's not super low, either. You would probably benefit from a good solid headphone amp with those, or a good desktop headphone amp. I just picked up the fantastic IFI XCan amp, (portable) and at 1000mw a channel mono power per channel, let me tell you it can drive almost any low-high impedance headphone or IEM within reason. It powers my Hifiman HE400SEs with ease, although even at 32 ohms, those still require a bit more juice from the IFI xCan than say, a pair of Koss PortaPros that I also tested it with. (The Koss I only have to crank to say, 6, relative volume, but the Hifimans a good 8 to get a good listening level going for the same source or track. Plus enabling XBass and wide image effects)
an impedance mismatch can make even the best gear sound bad. the amp is just as key as the phones. the real test of that argument would be to do a shootout between the 3 different DT770's on a variety of output devices. let's hear the difference or are they just blowing smoke.
Each higher impedance version will likely sound and perform better with a matching more powerful and better quality amp. Of course, within that, a lot is still subjective. But if you expect a 600 ohm headphone to sound good on a tiny weak amp of some kind, or a phone with NO amp, well, you're insane!
Does anyone know how many OHM i need in my headphones? Im not sure I understand. I have the new macbook pro and shure mv7 mic. Im recording raps in my my bedroom in Logic pro x. Thanks
Hey, Greg! The ohms (impedance) that you’re looking for will depend on what hardware you’re connecting the headphones to. The higher the impedance, the more powerful your headphone amp needs to be. For that reason, consumer grade headphone outputs like those on your laptop, phone and tablet tend to do best with lower impedance headphones. Standalone headphone amps and many interfaces will do great with higher impedance headphones. I hope this helps! Feel free to reach out if you’d like help figuring out what will work with a particular interface or headphone amp that you have. Connor Smith, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1793, connor_smith@sweetwater.com
If you're just running headphones out of your Macbook or audio interface with no real amp involved, you need LOW impedance headphones. If you put a good solid amp/DAC etc. between the MacBook, audio interface etc., you can use higher impedance phones or IEMs and/or better quality studio reference type headphones, such as say, the AKG 701s, which will require a lot more power to drive and hear. It's also a good idea to have a good monitor speaker system (amped) with a subwoofer if you can swing it, in room, to hear your mixes and productions. Headphones are great for monitoring or mixing, editing, etc., but not necessarily for judging your final mixdown or mastering product.
That just simply is not true, or better say some misleading about requirements of amp. for headphones. At least I can drive 250Ohm Bayer Dynamics from laptops, computers with defaut integrated sound card and have ZERO issues with volume level, most of the time I set even 25%, while most integrated solutions is not that bad. Might phone is not handle it, didn't try, but who will use DT770 250omh on the phone?.... So, I would say, that you can easily use 250ohm headphones on any device like PC etc without "mandatory" audiointerface.
Really? Most PCs, tablets and phones have no decent amp built in, and also, no decent EQ apps. or any other such software. If you expect a basic laptop or phone to get the most out of 250 or higher phones, well, I don't think that's going to happen. It's a total waste of time. You can get 100000x better quality and volume and performance out of higher impedance headphones with a good amp of some kind. Not a $30 one, you need to invest some real money and then you'll hear those 250 ohmers shine.
@@thiscorrosion900 "If you expect a basic laptop or phone to get the most" - I don't "expect" I just have it and tried. And do not hear huuuge difference. Might be for deaf people, yes. (for PC and laptops, for a phone don't know)
There really isn't a best in ohms. The headphone tuning/balance/tone along with comfort are the main thing for headphones. The next thing is matching/synergy with the amplifier. Then amplifier tuning/balance/tone.
I'm just guessing, but probably because with higher impedance headphones, you'd need to turn the volume up higher on your phone to get the same headphone volume as lower impedance headphones. So with lower impedance headphones, you might normally run at half volume, but with higher impedance headphones, you'd need to crank it all the way up for it to sound as loud.Takes more battery power to run the volume louder. Again, that's my guess.
Why, because, the higher impedance headphones suck that much more power out of your device because you will need to crank the amp or device(s) that much higher to get a decent sound level out of them. If you use regular low imp. dynamic phones or IEMS, you will never need to crank the volume nearly as high as high imp. phones to get a decent volume and quality out of them. If you try running 600 ohm headphones on some tiny shitty DAP with no amp, or even a small lower power headphone amp, or both, you will kill the batteries very fast and may not even be able to achieve a listenable level from those headphones, and the quality will be shit, anyway. 600 ohm phones are made for the studio, for use with a high power amp or rack amp or etc. They are not made to be run from tiny consumer devices.
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I have always had a hard time finding headphones wide enough to wear comfortably all day long. I have big curly hair! Haha♡
Would you consider making a video on the headphones that Sweetwater carries, and size them small to large?♡? That would really help me solve my shopping for headphones problem!
Thanks again!♡ be well :)
A video explaining transformers, capicitators, etc… basically the components found in most audio grar. Thanks.
sir, i know this is off topic but can i ask you about sennheiser hd 280 pro, can i use it on my pc with onboard soundcard alc 1200, the Standard output is ≤ 1.1 Vrms (32 Ω) and the hd 280 pro has 60 Ω impedance, or a dedicated soundcard is a must?
Please explain how impedance affects the quality.
I wish every explanation was like this. So concise. Thanks 👍
Clear and concise elaboration. Thank you very much!
I'm listening to this with the DT770M 80ohm version. Not by design, just happened that way.
All jokes aside, I use these for casual listening, and they sound great.
Same here. I have little to no complaints about it.
I have the same headphones except they are 32 ohm. They work perfectly with my Tascam DP-008EX. Best phones I’ve ever owned.
So interesting. Decided to use my backup headphones yesterday at my dj event. The 32 ohm headphones were significantly louder than the 95 ohm ones I usually use. Both are designed to dj with. Almost thought the 95 ohm were broken or dying out.
I had impedance once.. but I went to the doctor and he gave me these cool little blue pills. No more problems there!
Lol
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Have the doctor give you a few rimshots. You’ll be good as new.
That's not... nvm..
This was very helpful thanks. Just bought a pair of those 250 ohm headphones from you guys
I recently need to get a new set of headphone and did my research and decided I wanted the DT770 32ohm. I called myt Sweetwater sales person but they were busy so I talked to someone else. I couldn't believe they kept telling me impedance doesn't matter. I kept tell them these cans are going to be used in a low power setup so I want low impedance. Finally just told them just order what I want period. Got the phones and very happy with them.
Some of your 2nd tier sales people need to watch this video.
I've never really thought about this like I should have. Thanks so much!
I thought daisy-chaining would add more ohms or impedance. Very nice information to break out of my ignorance of audio tech.
bro the daisy chaining bit saved my 770s frm being returned. im trying to find an amp tht has 80+ ohm output so i can get the most outta my 770s thx for the help
Ahh makes sense why my Makie 1642 headphone out is so quite in my DT 770 80ohms ! Mackie is a 10ohm output !
Do the same but for microphone impedance!
A quick shout-out to the smooth-as-molten-chocolate audio quality.
This was a tough video to make easy- and you did it lol- go0d work!
That explanation was so classy now I have to open a bottle of old whiskey and have a sip from a diamond glass!
My 300 ohm headphones are most definitely. You do not acknowledge vacuum tube headphone amps. Some of the old 600 ohm phones were very good indeed. Your comment was honest but
diplomatic.
What would be a typical impedance range for synthesizers?
What does it mean too low impedance for an amp to handle?
Thanks, Mitch!
Thank You Mitch!!👍😎
Sensitivity u should cover too, basically the lower the number, the harder it is to get volume out of
Ok so i bought the m50x and an interface witch is 35omh i think and it sounds terrible so if i i buy a 80omh or 250omh will it sound good on the Interface??
So empidance should be at a very low level If using it with a smartwatch?
I have the MOTU M6 audio interface in my cart along with a few pairs of headphones.
(I hear the MOTU M6 headphone amp provides 190mW @ 55ohms).
A (seemingly wise) TH-cam audiophile told me to pair the M6 with 80Ω headphones.
...but a MOTU sales rep said that "headphones over 200Ω is optimal".
Julian says that you should x8 the amp impedance with headphone impedance.
...but another tech TH-camr said to _match_ the amp/headphone impedance.
_WHAT GIVES!?_
I think 80-150 ohm is the sweet spot for most home recording interface in the market now.. based on Julian review
Informative
Thanks for the video! I am looking at the Beyerdynamics and was wondering if should go for the 80 ohm of the 250 ohm. Now between the power requirements and the coil cable on the 250 Vs the straight cable on the 80, I am going to get the 80 ohm.
are they significantly different? the 80ohm is double the price of the 250 ohm 990 pro's in my country
for keyboard arranger Yamaha PSR-SX900 is better 32, 80 or 250 ohms? Thanks
whats the difference between active/ passive impedance?
I have the DT 770 Pro 80 ohms headphones. Should I be using a headphone amp?
The only thing I have to drive it is my Focusrite Scarlett Solo or MacBook Pro headphone out.
Same question here too. Noticed a definite difference my new DT770 80 ohms when just plugged into a phone or my laptop.
Your interface usually has more than enough power to push volume. You should consider getting a headphone amp if you crack your volume knob all the way up and you don't get enough volume. This is more noticeable in cellphones. Put in a 250ohm on your cellphone and then put a regular cheap headphone and you will see a drastic volume difference.
You should be fine. Your Scarlett will definitely drive those well, and your MacBook Pro as well.
Hi, Jeff! A headphone amp wouldn't be necessary for the 80 Ohm version of those headphones. You should be totally fine without one. Hope that helps, and thanks for reaching out!
Corey Elliott, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1242, corey_elliott@sweetwater.com
I'm still not sure what kind of amp section the Focusrite interfaces are equipped with. One thing for sure is the MacBook alone will not have enough amp power
for really driving those phones. And if the Audio interface volume out is too quiet with the Beyers, I would get a good solid desktop headphone amp and
use that between the MacBook and the interface, for sure.
i am trying to side chain and master tracks. would a 250 ohm pair of headphones and an amp help me with hearing the difference of an unmastered track and a mastered track ?
Hey Andrew, good question! While high impedance headphones can definitely perform very linearly and deliver very precise audio, they also require a much more robust headphone amp to run properly. Because of that, they are not a solution all by themselves. If you are running a USB Bus powered interface like a 2i2, you would likely not be able to power 250 ohm headphones properly to get the sound levels you desire. Couple things we can do at this point. We can use a proper headphone amp with the high impedance headphones, like the Little Labs Monotor. There are also just some fantastic low impedance headphones that are extremely detailed and neutral in response like the Shure SRH1540.
If you would like to dig in, please give me a ring!
Drake Sobehrad, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 3271, drake_sobehrad@sweetwater.com
Any recommendations for a preamp for a pair of Beyerdynamic dt100 400ohm headphones?
Hey, Alex! We have quite a few options, but a couple of my favorites are the Rupert Neve headphone amp, or the RME DA converter:
www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/ADI2DACFS--rme-adi-2-dac-fs-2-channel-da-converter
www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/RNHP--rupert-neve-designs-rnhp-1-ch-precision-headphone-amplifier
Either of these options will give you plenty of output to properly drive those headphones.
I hope this helps!
Nick Pasquino, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 3230, nick_pasquino@sweetwater.com
@@sweetwater hey, thanks for the recommendations, do you have any suggestions for something less pricey? 😅 I was thinking around £100 budget. I bought the 400ohm headphones accidentally and the store I got them from refused yo accept a return because the box was opened 🙃
I have creative G6 (handles up to 600ohms) for gaming, will I see a difference in sound quality with a DT 770 pro 80 or 250ohms? I understand the power side of things, more power needed to handle higher ohms, but no one actually talks about quality of the sound. e.g. If my setup has no issue handling 80 or 250ohms, and sound output is similar (don't like it to high) is there any sound quality differences>?
Hello, Guy! This is a great question, and one without a simple answer. Impedance refers to the current a device consumes in order to operate - or in more technical terms, a device’s resistance to electrical current. More so than anything, the design of the headphone will impact impedance as well as sound quality, but the two are not necessarily linked. There are low impedance headphones that arguably sound better than high impedance headphones. It just depends.
The DT770s are a great example to look at. As the impedance of the models increase, the diameter of the wires in the voice coil decrease, allowing for smaller gaps between windings and because of this, a greater magnetic field and thus less distortion. This article goes into great detail on this topic:
www.headphonesty.com/2019/04/headphone-impedance-demystified/
Thanks for the interest!
Cody Kraus, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1766, cody_kraus@sweetwater.com
I own the CLabs G6 and use it for my primary PC and desktop amp and to drive some powered Logitech 2.1 THX speakers. The G6 will power both DT versions,'
but I think what you'll find is that you'll have to crank the G6 volume higher to get a similar output overall level from the 250 ohms version as compared to the 80
ohm version, or under. That seems to true with my two different pairs of Hifiman planar headphones, even though they're low impedance mainly, they still
require more juice to get the same level as my dynamic phones or IEMs. I only need a tenth of power on the G6 to drive say, a basic pair of dynamic IEMs
or headphones. As for sound quality, the 250 ohm version may actually sound better overall than the 80 ohm version, but that's difficult to say. I have the G6
so I would think they would both sound similar, but require more power for the 250 ohm version to drive them, at least. You may have better results for the 250
ohm Beyers with a much better and more powerful headphone amp., like a better IFI amp, or an AudioEngine desktop amp, etc. There could be a world
of quality difference between the 80 and 250 ohm Beyers, but you'd have to test both with the same amp (and/or different amps) to find out for sure.
At the end of the day all you care about is to find out if given hp amp can deliver high enough voltage to your high impedance headphones to enable loud enough playback. Unfortunately those specs are not published, instead they publish impedances, mW@Z figures, all irrelevant if your hp amp can not deliver amplitude to take advantage of its full power in case of high impedance cans.
You can not drive 250ohm headphones wirh amp with 300mV maximum output level.
Correct, a waste of money and time, you would need to invest in a very robust amp of whatever kind that can drive those headphones efficiently, and with some
power to spare.
Mitch
What is better for ps4 , headset 32ome with 99dp or headset 16ome with 106dp?
Nope, still kinda dumb. I just ordered DT770’s (250) for the sole purpose of using it with the helix floor. Which also happens to be an audio interface. So did I buy the right ones??
This is not quite true! What drives headphone impedance is amper turns. All things being equal, a headphone of 200 ohms vs. an 8 ohm headphone is that the 200 ohm unit will draw less current hence making your battery last longer. What makes a 200 ohm headphone is MORE WIRE, AND THINNER WIRE. This results in a greater magnetic field with the same input current and hence the same volume with reduced current draw. In the days of Crystal Radios, headphones of up to 4000 ohms were used to get sufficient volume from the miniscule current provided by the no-power radio!
Just received a pair of DT700 Pro X with an impedance of 48 Ohm. Should I be driving it with a headphone amp?
Hey, Alvaro. Thanks for reaching out! You may or may not need a headphone amp for your DT700 depending on what you’re using them for. Typically it’s best to just try them out and if they are too quiet just get a simple headphone amp and you’ll be good to go. If you have any other questions feel free to call or email!
Jack Wellington, Sweetwater Sale Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 3240, jack_wellington@sweetwater.com
That impedance is not super high, but it's not super low, either. You would probably benefit from a good solid headphone amp with those, or a good desktop
headphone amp. I just picked up the fantastic IFI XCan amp, (portable) and at 1000mw a channel mono power per channel, let me tell you it can drive
almost any low-high impedance headphone or IEM within reason. It powers my Hifiman HE400SEs with ease, although even at 32 ohms, those still
require a bit more juice from the IFI xCan than say, a pair of Koss PortaPros that I also tested it with. (The Koss I only have to crank to say, 6, relative volume,
but the Hifimans a good 8 to get a good listening level going for the same source or track. Plus enabling XBass and wide image effects)
an impedance mismatch can make even the best gear sound bad. the amp is just as key as the phones.
the real test of that argument would be to do a shootout between the 3 different DT770's on a variety of output devices.
let's hear the difference or are they just blowing smoke.
Each higher impedance version will likely sound and perform better with a matching more powerful and better quality amp. Of course, within that,
a lot is still subjective. But if you expect a 600 ohm headphone to sound good on a tiny weak amp of some kind, or a phone with NO amp, well,
you're insane!
superlux for the win .
Does anyone know how many OHM i need in my headphones? Im not sure I understand. I have the new macbook pro and shure mv7 mic. Im recording raps in my my bedroom in Logic pro x. Thanks
Hey, Greg! The ohms (impedance) that you’re looking for will depend on what hardware you’re connecting the headphones to. The higher the impedance, the more powerful your headphone amp needs to be. For that reason, consumer grade headphone outputs like those on your laptop, phone and tablet tend to do best with lower impedance headphones. Standalone headphone amps and many interfaces will do great with higher impedance headphones.
I hope this helps! Feel free to reach out if you’d like help figuring out what will work with a particular interface or headphone amp that you have.
Connor Smith, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1793, connor_smith@sweetwater.com
If you're just running headphones out of your Macbook or audio interface with no real amp involved, you need LOW impedance headphones. If you put a good solid
amp/DAC etc. between the MacBook, audio interface etc., you can use higher impedance phones or IEMs and/or better quality studio reference type headphones,
such as say, the AKG 701s, which will require a lot more power to drive and hear. It's also a good idea to have a good monitor speaker system (amped) with a subwoofer
if you can swing it, in room, to hear your mixes and productions. Headphones are great for monitoring or mixing, editing, etc., but not necessarily for judging
your final mixdown or mastering product.
glad my headphone impedance only 32ohm hahaha
Er, it depends on what TYPE of headphone you have, as well. Planar, IEMs, electrostatic, hybrids, etc.
🤘😬🤘
I’m listening to this in 100 year old, 1500 ohm headphones,… ridiculously through a standard low impedance headphone out from a Bluetooth receiver. 😂🤓
I have 600 ohm dt 880's Feels good destroying amps, turning up them to max and get no volume lmao.
Taking the piss much? Why own 600 ohm headphones for general listening? They are made for studio use and high power amps.
That just simply is not true, or better say some misleading about requirements of amp. for headphones. At least I can drive 250Ohm Bayer Dynamics from laptops, computers with defaut integrated sound card and have ZERO issues with volume level, most of the time I set even 25%, while most integrated solutions is not that bad. Might phone is not handle it, didn't try, but who will use DT770 250omh on the phone?.... So, I would say, that you can easily use 250ohm headphones on any device like PC etc without "mandatory" audiointerface.
Really? Most PCs, tablets and phones have no decent amp built in, and also, no decent EQ apps. or any other such software. If you expect a basic laptop or phone
to get the most out of 250 or higher phones, well, I don't think that's going to happen. It's a total waste of time. You can get 100000x better quality and volume
and performance out of higher impedance headphones with a good amp of some kind. Not a $30 one, you need to invest some real money and then
you'll hear those 250 ohmers shine.
@@thiscorrosion900 "If you expect a basic laptop or phone to get the most" - I don't "expect" I just have it and tried. And do not hear huuuge difference. Might be for deaf people, yes. (for PC and laptops, for a phone don't know)
There really isn't a best in ohms. The headphone tuning/balance/tone along with comfort are the main thing for headphones. The next thing is matching/synergy with the amplifier. Then amplifier tuning/balance/tone.
Useful info. Thanks, Mitch!
16-300 or 16-150 for headphones can someone please tell me what the 300 and 150 is and what one would be better for 32 ohm headphones
Wonderful explanation ♡ thank you! :)
Can I use 16 - 300 ohm amplifier on a 38 ohm headphone ?
Ah yes...physics
I don't understand why a higher impedance drains your battery. I can see where decreased headphone sensitivity would be a factor.
I'm just guessing, but probably because with higher impedance headphones, you'd need to turn the volume up higher on your phone to get the same headphone volume as lower impedance headphones. So with lower impedance headphones, you might normally run at half volume, but with higher impedance headphones, you'd need to crank it all the way up for it to sound as loud.Takes more battery power to run the volume louder. Again, that's my guess.
That statement hardly makes any sense. You can ignore it.
Why, because, the higher impedance headphones suck that much more power out of your device because you will need to crank the amp or device(s) that much
higher to get a decent sound level out of them. If you use regular low imp. dynamic phones or IEMS, you will never need to crank the volume nearly as high
as high imp. phones to get a decent volume and quality out of them. If you try running 600 ohm headphones on some tiny shitty DAP with no amp,
or even a small lower power headphone amp, or both, you will kill the batteries very fast and may not even be able to achieve a listenable level from those
headphones, and the quality will be shit, anyway. 600 ohm phones are made for the studio, for use with a high power amp or rack amp or etc. They are not
made to be run from tiny consumer devices.