32 ohm vs 250 ohm - Which Headphones Sound Best?

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  • I am always being asked which headphones are best and which impedance (ohm) is best!
    In this video, I hope to quickly answer lots of questions about headphones including:
    How do headphones work?
    What Ohm of headphones do I need?
    Which impedance sounds best?
    High or Low impedance headphones for Mixing and Mastering?
    How do headphones actually work?
    What's inside headphones?
    Do more ohms sound better?
    I exclusively use Beyerdynamic headphones in my studio because they are all made in Germany to the highest quality and are perfect for producing, mixing and recording! The DT 770 Pro is perfect as an all-rounder and is a legendary headphone in the industry but I prefer the open-backed headphones for mixing. for more information about mixing in headphones, Check out this video:
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  • @nagoshi01
    @nagoshi01 4 ปีที่แล้ว +753

    Minor gripe: the difference between high and low impedance headphones is the *voltage* needed to drive them. The power should be about the same across headphone types.

    • @inthemix
      @inthemix  4 ปีที่แล้ว +233

      Yes Sean with a higher voltage amp the current will be lower, however, different headphones do have different power requirements (based on more factors than just impedance) so the overall power does need to change. But I can see that to a more educated viewer, my use of language is a bit too vague! Sorry!

    • @nagoshi01
      @nagoshi01 4 ปีที่แล้ว +107

      @@inthemix Good explanation. Yes, I was just worried about the conflating of the terms "voltage" and "power" in the video. Otherwise it was a good video as usual 😀

    • @BlueSpirit.
      @BlueSpirit. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      In The Mix As far as the specs, I also look at the sensitivity, Spl/ml. It also determines how easy it is to run. Try the Berydynamics dt880 semi- open. You’ll hear a difference in detail. You need a good amp. I have the SmsL sp200 $260. Super clean, and neutral with a black background. You won’t need another.

    • @nicomoreno9531
      @nicomoreno9531 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BlueSpirit. SPL/mI??? do you mean mW?

    • @stefanorusso6254
      @stefanorusso6254 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      386.000

  • @ZennitMusic
    @ZennitMusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1868

    You are literally better than my physics teacher (germany)

    • @Kinzuu
      @Kinzuu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +252

      you are way less annoying than my physics teacher too (germany)

    • @inthemix
      @inthemix  4 ปีที่แล้ว +478

      I have the approval of two Germans, my day is complete! Thanks guys

    • @RayyMusik
      @RayyMusik 4 ปีที่แล้ว +98

      Third German approving. 👍

    • @kaustik185
      @kaustik185 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@inthemix I don't even have a physics teacher so i HAVE to come here (still germany tho)

    • @johnh.kingstonlll5727
      @johnh.kingstonlll5727 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @HRYZN Msc No they come here to teach math and Physics. Mine felt if you were in his class you should know it. Very strict no-nonsense. You had to hope your lab partner knew it or you were F>>>>Ked. I learned how smart he was and I wasn't and. learned more from my partner than him. Peace

  • @TheDreadwolfMetal
    @TheDreadwolfMetal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Hey, this was an amazing video! Thank you for teaching some of the scientific and technical engineering concepts, I really enjoyed the fact that you disassembled the earcups and showed us the actual driver technology and how the impedance relates to the coil length. Thank you!

  • @AlanSamuel
    @AlanSamuel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    real good video, with extra clear explanations. All with a nice smile, a calm "Zen" voice and no stupid distracting sound or visual effects. Just gettiong down to basics and straight to the point. Thank you so much.

  • @phillkard
    @phillkard 4 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Man, even being good at making music, I guess you are even more talented in teaching. Every video I see, I learn af.

  • @DavidDiMuzio
    @DavidDiMuzio 4 ปีที่แล้ว +310

    Useful info. I've never looked into the impedance level of headphones I've bought in the past. Thanks!

    • @professorswaggamuffin7572
      @professorswaggamuffin7572 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree. I've got good headphones and never checked impedance. I think this boils down to the fact that youtubers with the amount of viewers he gets get paid well and they gotta keep working

    • @OskarSvan
      @OskarSvan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@professorswaggamuffin7572 no? Higher impedence can be a game changer

    • @professorswaggamuffin7572
      @professorswaggamuffin7572 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@OskarSvan what do you feel the difference is in the sound?

    • @RyuzenTV
      @RyuzenTV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I don't know English.
      Which is better for my PC ? 32 or 250 ?
      250 ohm have better sound but 250 ohm too much hard for a PC ?
      I want to buy a new Over-ear headset. "Sennheiser HD 280 pro (64 ohm)" is good choise for me ?(for music)

    • @theexile1155
      @theexile1155 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You were predestined to be different(Romans 8:29), he who has an ear to hear, let him hear(Mark 4:9).
      HALLELUYAH!(PRAISE YE YAH!)

  • @davidallyn1818
    @davidallyn1818 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow!! Thanks for nerding out - I like knowing the "why" and "how" of things and your explanation really helps me both in music and life!!

  • @OscarUnderdog
    @OscarUnderdog 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is such a fantastic video. Your explanations are so clear and to the point. Thanks!

  • @markmeeks8740
    @markmeeks8740 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The depth you go into this video, is godly! Appreciate the knowledge!

  • @ramyz
    @ramyz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    this makes a lot of sense. i was interested in buying Beyerdynamic, and had no idea what this meant. this helped a lot, you explained it very well thank you

  • @stevekennysound
    @stevekennysound 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you! This video is the best explanation of the difference between low & high impedance headphones. I really appreciate your full yet succinct explanation. BIG help!

  • @rishhadkothawala
    @rishhadkothawala 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Perfect! I was searching for a straight answer on what kind of impedance headphones would suit my interface. Thanks so much, this was really useful

  • @Artas1984
    @Artas1984 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What a fucin' excellent video! I was not really looking for an explanation on Ohms, but what i learned here about the composition of the audio drivers exceeded my expectations.

  • @Khromax
    @Khromax 3 ปีที่แล้ว +208

    The shortest 8 minutes of my life. That was really fascinating

    • @claymora2519
      @claymora2519 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Phacts

    • @TheDesperateArtist
      @TheDesperateArtist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That's what SHE said.. 😁

    • @Khromax
      @Khromax 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TheDesperateArtist BRUH 😂😂😂

  • @LossBH
    @LossBH 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    insanely useful info. just bought my first 250ohm headphones and wanted to know more about impedance. thanks so much!

  • @taliadalton7165
    @taliadalton7165 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This was great! I've been looking for recording headphones for a while, and was trying to understand Ohm so you helped a lot! I'm actually getting the mid level ones you showed in the video from beyerdynamic. Thank you!

  • @alejandronavarrete3997
    @alejandronavarrete3997 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Thank you SO much for this video, you literally explained everything I wanted to know and more!

  • @greedokenobi3855
    @greedokenobi3855 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Nice! I have the 770’s 250 ohm AND I happen to have the iD14!! When I purchased the headphones I wondered if the iD14 would drive it enough but quikly found out it did! Audient interfaces are pretty underated imo.

  • @paradox6331
    @paradox6331 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just quickly wanted to say thank you for all of your tutorials and explanations. You did an amazing job and helped me with a lot of things!

  • @cisco9027
    @cisco9027 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Best explanation I’ve ever seen on utube great vid and no back ground music.

  • @CyushiMusic
    @CyushiMusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I loved the disassembly part! I just finished an electromagnetism course, so it was awesome to see this application.

    • @inthemix
      @inthemix  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I wish they showed me stuff like this when I was studying Electronics on my course!

  • @jesseaviman
    @jesseaviman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Great video, I fully understand everything you have said. Glad I found it!

  • @hunghoangmusic
    @hunghoangmusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love it when you answered the question right away and then explaining it later with more details, not the reverse

  • @alexwhb122
    @alexwhb122 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely fantastic video. So appreciated the actual headphone disassembly and explanation. I learned a lot!

  • @jebatman756
    @jebatman756 4 ปีที่แล้ว +227

    "I'm gonna take them apart and take a look just for fun"
    Guy's like my weird cousin!

    • @edinechannel5704
      @edinechannel5704 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@no-name168 me too and end up my father beat me because i destroy all my toys haha ha

  • @ShadelessDen
    @ShadelessDen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I have to say, you are a gifted teacher my friend: clear, to the point, and easy to understand. Thank you!

  • @waedi73
    @waedi73 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great show ! I love the disassembly video much more than unboxing videos ! You are the trendsetter ! And your explanations are very good !

  • @FrancisJMotionDesigner
    @FrancisJMotionDesigner ปีที่แล้ว

    You put a lot of effort into this. Thank you for all the detailed info!

  • @tdifalco1
    @tdifalco1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Informative with a soothing, calm and reassuring delivery I could listen to all day. You obviously love what you do and it shows.

    • @LossBH
      @LossBH 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i couldn't agree more

  • @alternatingbitmusic
    @alternatingbitmusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    What a perfect demonstration without sounding pretentious or getting too complex. I actually own the DT770s but only chose them because I thought a middle ground would be the safest bet lol. Much credit to you for your clear and pleasant delivery.

    • @mikelisteral7863
      @mikelisteral7863 ปีที่แล้ว

      dont 770 have too much treble? why cant anyone just make a proper flat sound signature

    • @alternatingbitmusic
      @alternatingbitmusic ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mikelisteral7863 Too much treble? I prefer that over too much bass lol... to each his own... There are flat cans out there, and while they are productive for mastering and such, they're very stale for music listening.

    • @mikelisteral7863
      @mikelisteral7863 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@alternatingbitmusic stale? you mean accurate. all headphones on earth should be flat. use the eq if you want to mess around with what the artist intended you to hear.

    • @alternatingbitmusic
      @alternatingbitmusic ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@mikelisteral7863 well with that logic an $11 pair of Skull Candy ear buds should be just perfect based on what EQ you set... get my point? It's just just flat/accurate, but it's the craftmanship and personal preference. So much of audio quality is perception based on the individual.

    • @mikelisteral7863
      @mikelisteral7863 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alternatingbitmusic you like treble? then listen to 70's music on a phone speaker. u have treble. haha

  • @okkisoebagio
    @okkisoebagio 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for your clear explanation. You're really good at explaining; yoir choice of words and the way you articulate them makes this somewhat complex subject for some sounds very easy to digest. Kudos!

  • @minskrooge
    @minskrooge 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Congrats on making Beyerdynamic's website! Very happy for you, did a terrific job and deserve it.

  • @sagarvermamusic
    @sagarvermamusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is SUCH a great video. Never thought I'd be proud of studying physics back in high school so much 🥰

  • @zoubeirfaouzi149
    @zoubeirfaouzi149 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I bought the 32 ohm because of this video. I'm very pleased with the quality. Thank you very much for the advice❤🎧

    • @LeVi1O5
      @LeVi1O5 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Are they good for Mixing and mastering????

  • @jogu1732
    @jogu1732 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    cool and educating video! the visual aids used were fantastic. really put everything into perspective for me. Thanks!

  • @ciprianpostolache6038
    @ciprianpostolache6038 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been lookin 4 u for 4 years now, and u provided me a lot of pertinent informations! tks CiPian from RoMania

  • @Uranicmusic
    @Uranicmusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That's a perfect timing. Just asked on your discord about that! 😅

  • @kevkas
    @kevkas 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Very very good video mate, I bought the Beyerdynamics DT 770 Pro 80 Ohm around 4 years ago and I had to dig up and research all of what you explained in the first 5 minutes all by myself, this video would have been a lot of help back then. Love the DT 770 Pro by the way, these headphones are great.

    • @andbe
      @andbe ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Are you using them on a laptop or a PC? And for what prupose do you use them, music production or mixing? And its 2 years now since you wrote this comment, do you still use them?
      Id appreciate an answer if you see this, thanks!

    • @SchwettyBawls
      @SchwettyBawls ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@andbe If you're using them with a laptop or PC without an amp it's best to probably go with the 32ohm versions. The 80ohms will work with some devices but won't be as loud as the 32ohm would be with that same device unless you also have an amp to power them. BUT the difference might be very minor, and some people might not even be able to tell, or it may be very drastic for you. YMMV

    • @akshatgour1070
      @akshatgour1070 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@SchwettyBawls Hi bro, how will the 32ohm headphone behave with dj controllers , will it be too loud ?
      And I don't want to spend on an amp so is it fine or an amp with a 80 ohm version is a real game changer in terms of sound output quality?
      You can tell me as a beginner producers perspective. Thanks

    • @LarcR
      @LarcR 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@SchwettyBawls I'm running my DT 770 Pro 250 Ohm from the headphone jack on my PC. They sound great with the output level set at 30%.

    • @SchwettyBawls
      @SchwettyBawls 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@LarcR Nice! It may work well with some setups and some people. But the higher ohm version will be quieter for other people depending on their setup and their level of hearing loss.

  • @navataru
    @navataru 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing video I learned more from your video on what a term means and how it works than I did watching 8 different videos from 8 different channels! Awesome stuff! Please make more videos like this!!

  • @amirshayanmoghtaderi5840
    @amirshayanmoghtaderi5840 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great video, very informative and finally I get a quite good understanding of what ohm is and how it actually works, thank you

  • @MrTheBassline
    @MrTheBassline 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks man, you helped make my decision on my new headphone purchase. Almost bought a 250ohm headphone without really knowing what I was doing, you explained it perfectly.

  • @jetsparks17
    @jetsparks17 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    SUPER easy explanation. SUPER easy to follow along. I didn't have physics in HS, didn't take physics in college because I haven't gone to college (yet) so basically, i'm what I would consider self-taught. Your vids are incredible man! Really awesome stuff! Thank you for your content dude!

    • @scanspeak00
      @scanspeak00 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Except he’s mostly wrong or oversimplifying.

  • @gerganakaymakanova6320
    @gerganakaymakanova6320 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely fantastic video, it answered the exact question I was looking for!

  • @Rappermand99999
    @Rappermand99999 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You give answers to all of my questions. You are fantastic!

  • @fahlikz9942
    @fahlikz9942 3 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    I think it's still important to mention that sensitivity also matters a lot. Something like Abyss, Audeze, Hifiman often have low impedance but also low sensitivity so they need much more power to get loud enough.

    • @xnoreq
      @xnoreq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Because it's nonsense to say that "high impedance heapdhones need more power". Impedance determines the relationship between voltage and current.
      How much power you need depends on the sensitivity or efficiency.
      Higher sensitivity means you need less power, but it also means that the noise floor of your amp and source needs to be lower .. otherwise you'll hear it.
      Higher impedance means you need less current, which at the same power is an EASIER load for an amplifier. On the other hand you need more voltage and therefore gain or turn up the volume more.

    • @QoraxAudio
      @QoraxAudio 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Those are planars, not dynamic... completely different technology and different electrical principles involved...

  • @g.hmusicc
    @g.hmusicc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +144

    great choice to upload this after i got my headphones

    • @inthemix
      @inthemix  4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Oh no! What did you get?

    • @g.hmusicc
      @g.hmusicc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      i think 55 ohm headphones, it’s AKG K240 Studio Headphones

    • @bastianmaze_beats8730
      @bastianmaze_beats8730 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      G. H i just ordered a pair of those, but the MKii version. I think they’re a solid budget buy. The frequency response graph is good. As said in one of the videos on this great channel, there’s no such a thing as “flat headphones” but you can find some of them close to that, get to know them is the best bet.

    • @dani5422
      @dani5422 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      G. H omfg same happened to me 😂 i got the dt 990’s pro

    • @rekasprawiedliwosci7689
      @rekasprawiedliwosci7689 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@turkishultranationalist Hi.
      Could You give me a help, please.
      I bought a pair of Dt 990 250 ohms and connected to scarlett 4in4 3rd gen and they are playing so quiet.
      There is something that I can do to make it right or better send them back and get 80 ohms?
      Thank You

  • @GregPhilip
    @GregPhilip 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank-you so much for this information. I am purchasing a DT 1990 and came across your channel. This is great!

  • @coscorrodrift
    @coscorrodrift 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yo, this video is so good that Beyerdynamic should use it.
    Oh wait, they do lmao that's why I came! Props for making such good content.

  • @RCmies
    @RCmies 4 ปีที่แล้ว +346

    I've just started studying electrical engineering so this was very interesting and easy to follow.

    • @nagoshi01
      @nagoshi01 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Same, I'm an EE senior student, so it was nice having a video where you know the stuff that's being talked about.

    • @yashwantholkar9930
      @yashwantholkar9930 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@legalizemolly2771 i can relate 🤔

    • @nagoshi01
      @nagoshi01 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@legalizemolly2771 Circuits I is often one of the hardest classes, just because of the intuition you need to get to understand the material

    • @user-cv7fh9kd1k
      @user-cv7fh9kd1k 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Computer engineering student here. I'm more drawn to EE though.

    • @ryze6726
      @ryze6726 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm not currently studying electric engineering and it was easy to follow for me

  • @orlandopadron7520
    @orlandopadron7520 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent! Thank you for taking the time to do this

  • @christophergreen4023
    @christophergreen4023 ปีที่แล้ว

    You just earned my like and follow good sir! I was just looking up reviews for the dt990 32 ohm headphones and came across your video and with every second it just drew me in and suddenly I’m fascinated as well!

  • @velanche
    @velanche 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This is informative. I’ve been using the Beyerdynamic DT770 32 ohm headphones for over three years and it’s been great for me, especially since I am hard of hearing; sometimes I wear them with my hearing aids, sometimes not. They are good when I do music production too. Now I know more, so thank you!

    • @STARK0181
      @STARK0181 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you need to buy an external microphone for chatting or can you chat online with only the headset?

    • @jushuwaaa
      @jushuwaaa 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@STARK0181if u want to talk to people online then yes u need an external mic

  • @williansviana2210
    @williansviana2210 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hello Michael! Congratulations on your channel! The great quality of the videos and the clear information you provide is the differential! I've got a question and wonder if you could help me. I mix using an audio interface (behringer UMC22) on which I plug my headphones on a stereo output of two mono channel (2x P10). Would it be better to use a 250 ohms or 80? Thank you very much!

  • @alastairpalm8150
    @alastairpalm8150 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is such a fascinating info vid. Thank you!

  • @ben94_
    @ben94_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow you answered my question perfectly and then even disassembled the headphones to show how it worked. thank you

  • @walterwischmob2914
    @walterwischmob2914 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Feeling a bit techy, eh? I like it. A nice little change of the usual content.

  • @tenettttt
    @tenettttt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I use the 770 Pros 32Ω through a simple Dac connected to my computer and it sounds amazing. Works reasonably well with my phone as well.

    • @debsattam1
      @debsattam1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Now a days phones have better internal audio cards compared to pc so ironic lol.

  • @Nicole-xy8qz
    @Nicole-xy8qz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wow. I've learned so many things from this video. Thank you!

  • @dennisnicholson2466
    @dennisnicholson2466 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Extremely useful thank you! Always amazes me how much research I go into when I buy something new.

  • @cresk
    @cresk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Great explanation. I owned the 80 ohms BD DT770 Pro for years and there’s simply no turning back to any other pair of headphones for me.

    • @andrejkovac3336
      @andrejkovac3336 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Dubufy Wondering the same thing here

    • @cresk
      @cresk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yes you can definitely use the 80 ohm in pretty much every occasion, whether it being plugged straight into several devices or with the use of amps. The sound quality still remains superb. But…
      The 80 Ohm is not supposed to be used for normal
      studio usage or hifi-amps (here you should use the 250 ohm)
      On the opposite, the 80 ohms also isn’t perfectly suitable for smartphones or devices powered by USB. (Here you should use the 32 ohm instead, because of a too low volume levels).

    • @AlphaMelGibson
      @AlphaMelGibson 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Dubufy You should look for people using the same audio interface/output device that you are using. I use the 770 pro 250ohm and I don´t need a amp(Steinberg Ur22C/44C, Line UX2, tested), my drum module didn´t work with the 250ohm but with other 80ohm´s(Roland TD-9).

    • @cresk
      @cresk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Alexander Deris I’d go for the 250 ohm

  • @Albee213
    @Albee213 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I have the Beyerdynamic dt 990 pro 250 ohm and I use them for mixing music and on my portable devices and phone around the house and they sound EXCELLENT. I compared them to a lot of studio monitor headphones others and there were some that sounded about the same but I loved these due to the sound quality, the soft pads, you can replace every part if anything breaks and the classic old school look. You wont be disappointed with these headphones.

    • @prod.cipher
      @prod.cipher ปีที่แล้ว

      You can’t replace the wires if they break. My right cup stopped producing sound after 3 months.

    • @radlertv-em9so
      @radlertv-em9so 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What audio interface or amp did you use

  • @MovieMan-gh2qn
    @MovieMan-gh2qn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very good explanation! After 2 or 3 other sites, I now feel like I understand impedance. You are a well spoken teacher. Thank you.

  • @1piyoti
    @1piyoti 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you for your format... I like getting the the information I need right off the bat...
    subscribed

  • @PaulSebastianM
    @PaulSebastianM 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Higher impedance generally means higher dynamic range and that's about it. Of course many other things can result from that, like less distortion, less easier induction of strain electrical fields (less susceptibility to interference)... etc. But there are so many other variables that not all these can be true at the same time.

  • @tempest212
    @tempest212 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Jesus Christ do you make a script and read it out or memorise it ? Not one stutter , not one word wasted ,I envy your speaking skills so much
    Subbed for sure , thank you so much for this

    • @visionlandmusic
      @visionlandmusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Muhammed! Why do you curse the name of one you do not believe!

  • @Wahinies
    @Wahinies 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Omg this is such a great concise dive into cans! I would like for you to examine microphones and phantom v. bias power too if not already done :)

  • @artysanmobile
    @artysanmobile 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Correction: The reason studios used, and in fact demanded, high impedance phones was that they used so many of them and the easiest solution was just stringing them electrically in parallel. I have many parallel-wired headphone distribution boxes with 10 ohm resistors in series with each output to protect against low impedance multiples.

    • @elzippo488
      @elzippo488 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bingo! We have a winner. Jay tell him what he's won!

  • @TonyThomas10000
    @TonyThomas10000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    For maximum power transfer, it is best to match output and load impedances (or at least come as close as possible).

  • @chriswong2012
    @chriswong2012 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is an absolutely fantastic video. Thank you so much! I learnt a lot from this!

  • @hitensolanki6375
    @hitensolanki6375 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant explanation! Also love the breakdown of the headphone speaker itself

  • @miasam9666
    @miasam9666 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Very informative and straight to the point, no ad bullshit like linus smelly feet. You rock man keep it up!

  • @auralsunrays9229
    @auralsunrays9229 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Recently purchased the Beyerdynamic DT-990 PRO and it was the best decision ever. Those work so well for producing, mixing and mastering for me. I'm using them on an Audient iD4 and the 250 Ohm are no issue at all (i was a bit worried at first, which is why i watched this video again). Volume is more than enough, turning it fully up would still blow your ears quickly i'd say.^^ Even on the poor headphone amp of my Samsung S9 there is still a decent volume possible. However it feels that some clarity/resolution gets lost in that case.

    • @DarkoP9.13
      @DarkoP9.13 ปีที่แล้ว

      Id4 mark 1 or mk2?

    • @auralsunrays9229
      @auralsunrays9229 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DarkoP9.13 I've been using the MK1 and still happy with it. Can't say anything about MK2.

  • @marcinkochanowski2955
    @marcinkochanowski2955 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great explanation on ohm, exactly what I was looking for, Thank you

  • @jassimkh6528
    @jassimkh6528 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, you are a valuable person, let people around you cover you so you get protected well, thank you for everything you give to producers 👏🏻

  • @mandi7
    @mandi7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I actually have a pair of 250 Ohm beyerdynamic headphones and I have no problem with volume when they're plugged into a computer or smartphone. The audio is good. I can only imagine how much better they are destined to sound with the recommended voltage applied.

    • @KuroganeX3
      @KuroganeX3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I ordered for myself dt 700 pro x. 38 ohm. Hopefully everything will be ok. Tbh I didn't knew about ohms at all. Got DAC Q5k.. I was focused on closed back headphone as I am planning to travel and fly. I don't want to disturb people around me with my classic music.

  • @babarasul680
    @babarasul680 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    How dare you accidentally teach me something cool. I love you.

  • @sharonduque3390
    @sharonduque3390 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved this video. You explained everything so easily!

  • @thebrokenstringstudio2930
    @thebrokenstringstudio2930 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    All of it i already knew BUT what a great job you did of explaining it!
    I sent it to my son who loves audio systems as well. Great Job! thanks

  • @lando199
    @lando199 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I actually bought the dt 770 80 ohm last week! I use them almost singlehandedly for music production, and they definitely need "higher volume" on my laptop to sound good. Also I feel like the bass disappears a little in them. Maybe the 32 ohm would have been better. Wish I would have seen this a week Ago! Great and interesting video anyhow 🙏

    • @L0vac
      @L0vac 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's an old post, but I guess you need a good monitors, try to find "Custom Studio" by Beyerdynamic. They are based on DT 770 but have a much more neutral sound curve plus a bass slider (when closed it's linear and 3 positions of opened to help you hear how something will sound on different systems). The way you wrote this, I guess you're still learning, so be also aware that with 32ohm you might miss some details and for 80ohm and up, forget about laptop/PC onboard and get at least cheap DAC (it'll amplify your sound signal for higher impedance).
      B: Bass SHOULD be subtle, you're monitoring. If you want a headphones for track mastering, then go for the DT 1990 Pro, just note that they cost a lot more and you need a much better DAC to drive them (250ohm) but they have the best treble for that job, seriously they are so good that even in some popular songs you can hear when mastering wasn't perfect, microphone positioning etc.

    • @lando199
      @lando199 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@L0vac @L0vac Lol yeah I was just starting put back then😅 I have the DT 880's rn, 250 ohm. I run them through an audio interface so all good there impedance wise. Nicely balanced cans, however they are a bit too hyped in the treble imo, less hyped than 990's that I also own lol, but still a bit too bright.
      I have been checking out the 1990's but rn they are a bit too expensive. But interesting about those custom studio ones, I'm intrigued! How well do you think they hold up against the 1990s? :) cheers

    • @L0vac
      @L0vac 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lando199 Well 1990 are also strong on treble (most studio mastering are) xD Less than 990 for sure, but don't know how it would compare to 880s.
      Regarding CS/1990 it's hard to compare them since first is closed-back monitoring and latter is open-back mastering. 1990 are not for noisy work surrounding as they will obviously let people arguing for example in. From the sound POV 1990 are of course better with wider soundstage and more "to the point" bass. BUT Custom Studio was about 25% of the 1990s price :S (sure you get a professional bundle with them but it's still a lot of money). I actually have them both at the moment, so if you're interested into something specific, give me a shout.
      Note that CS stopped manufacturing, so you'd need to get used ones and then new ear pads.

    • @lando199
      @lando199 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@L0vac Haha that treble f***s up my highs in my mixes😅 Nah man that's cool, if you want then by all means but I don't think I wanna go through the hassle of finding a pair of good used ones if you get me. On a second note I think I'll wait with considering new phones and start treating my room instead, and use my studio monitors more :P

  • @stromghouls
    @stromghouls 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    you can have headphones that have relatively low impedance, yet are very hard to drive because they are inneficient and have very low sensitivity. like the hifiman he-6se at 50 ohms and 83.5 db. low impedance is not always an indicator that a pair of headphones are going to be easy to drive. sennheiser hd800 have high empedance at 300 ohms but have very high efficiency. much easier to drive than he-6. impedance and sensitivity are equally important parameters to check.

    • @debsattam1
      @debsattam1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well exactly I have hifiman he-6se so hard to drive em that's why I am here not always impedence is the matter

  • @tnarch
    @tnarch 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    By far the best explaining video i have seen for a long time... thx for sharing.

  • @kelly3518
    @kelly3518 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are a brilliant communicator and teacher. You possess a mastery of your subject and the rare ability to present the important facts in understandable terms. Bravo!

  • @hINC
    @hINC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    I had this question coming up in my head, too. So I asked Beyerdynamic directly. Specifically regarding the DT-770 and its three variants.
    Low impedance: thicker wire for the coil, makes it easier for the current/electrons to flow through that wire -> low resistance/impedance.
    High impedance: lighter wire, but the electrons have a harder time to travel through that "narrow hose"
    Having a thicker wire makes the coil heavier and less reactive, MEANING moving a bit slower compared to a lighter coil. So the the 32-Ohms-version has less top end, compared to the 80- or 250-Ohms-variant.
    I used and use all three versions here in a professional environment (broadcast). Being the convinced Beyerdynamic user that I am, my latest buy was a bunch of 32-Ohms DT-700 Pros. I do regret that buy! These cans sound too compressed and they're a tad too much on the dull side for my taste. But it was too late to return them, so I use them in a less exposed setting. When choosing headphones, in our field, besides the sound, other aspects come into play, too. For instance when being used by multiple persons it's good when you can clean the cushions more easily. Or, Beyerdynamic offers every single part as replacement parts, for decades and all models. They're made in Germany and they are a very solid company. The DT-770 Pros are built very sturdy, too.
    That being said, I can really recommend the 250-Ohms-version for a broad variety of use cases. IF you have weak headphone amps such as in mobile phones, I'd give the 80-Ohms-version a try or switch to maybe a Sennheiser HD-25 or an Audio-Technica ATH-M50x for that.

    • @wolfy9477
      @wolfy9477 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have audient ID14 and RODE NT1-A. I have to use Phantom Power to be able to use the RODE NT1-A microphone. Should I get 250ohm Beyerdynamic headphones? Can Audient ID14 run both headphones and microphone at the same time?
      Please help me out cause I'm definitely not an expert when it comes to ohms and all that things with the voltage and power. 🙏🏻

    • @jamespike8279
      @jamespike8279 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I've been looking at the 80 ohm to use with a Mac mini M1. Think I may get those based on what you've said here. Thanks.

    • @Light-ke1bc
      @Light-ke1bc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thx. Best explanation

    • @Cryptosonix
      @Cryptosonix ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you, this makes a lot of sense!

    • @nostgeoffhi-fi
      @nostgeoffhi-fi ปีที่แล้ว

      (H. Inc) "A thicker wire makes the coil less reactive...So the 32 Ohm version has less top end than the 80 or 250 Ohm." -Are you sure about this? I think you mean the 32 Ohm has more top end than the 80 or 250 (due to thinner wires and more reactive coil.).
      I'm not sure, since these will be me first 80 Ohm headphones, but also, others have said the the opposite -meaning higher impedance gives more open soundstage, etc. Hard to know without personally A/B-ing them, i would think, due to all the variables in an audio chain and subjective ears.

  • @MrThreeWorlds
    @MrThreeWorlds 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I've had the DT 770 pro for about 4-5 years now and I absolutely love them! Cannot recommend them enough. I use them for listening to music, (really, really amateur level) music production and gaming and I've never been left wanting more.

    • @ChikoNJackoTV
      @ChikoNJackoTV 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      are you using an amp?

    • @IIRedSunII
      @IIRedSunII 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I have it too from last 2 years ago and i love it, just i've broken up my 770's and i decided to change because some comments telling the 990 PRO are overall better, they all are complete wrong, the 770's is a lot more inmersive in gaming and soundstage.

    • @MrThreeWorlds
      @MrThreeWorlds 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ChikoNJackoTV I am, but tbh they work fine without the extra power!

    • @ProdCola
      @ProdCola ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey, I know I'm like 2 years late, but how many ohms were you using?

    • @MrThreeWorlds
      @MrThreeWorlds ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ProdCola 80 ohms :) Still using the same headset btw, if you get one it's a good investment.

  • @ryanhill7318
    @ryanhill7318 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great info! I didn't know this. Thank you

  • @nelsonbirdsong1836
    @nelsonbirdsong1836 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    man knows his ish!! love it. Thanks for the info

  • @Grrrr3FKAGrrrrGrrrrGrrrr
    @Grrrr3FKAGrrrrGrrrrGrrrr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The higher impedance version has less mass in the coil. Lower moving mass of the driver makes it more responsive to the electrical signal, the jargon term is a 'faster' driver. This is why the higher impedance versions of otherwise similar headphones sound better (given sufficient amplification).

  • @RedPillBroadcast
    @RedPillBroadcast 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    When the coil moves, its technically called "Good Vibrations" as written by Amir Quadeer Shakir, aka "MC Spice The Legend", a good friend of Donnie Wahlberg, Mark Wahlberg, and Dan Hartman

  • @karemare6426
    @karemare6426 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude, I loved every bit of this video, well done!

  • @patrickcorcoran889
    @patrickcorcoran889 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for making this video - you answered all my questions :-)

  • @Samson1
    @Samson1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm just burning in a brand new pair of DT 990 Pros (250ohm) and I'm incrediby impressed! Although there are certain parts of the lower end which just aren't there compared to my maybe six year old pair of m40x's. I'm using an Alesis io2 Express USB interface which is fully capable of driving these that I'm aware of. Not really sure how to go about it. (the M40x's have no difference in quality whether in my interface or my motherboard, referencing to a comment about the io2 Express having caps not intended for anything lower than 200 ohms.)
    edit: tightened the sound up with a slight EQ in VoiceMetre.
    edit: Removed EQ. So it turns out that my motherboard has a much warmer, fuller sound than my interface. Also it seems that my motherboard's Realtek S1200A _is_ capable of powering 250ohms despite what the internet says.

  • @christopherrobin8265
    @christopherrobin8265 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In case this helps anyone, I used the audiotechnica M50's for a couple years and was never a huge fan of the sound, but that it must've just been my ears because everyone raves about them. I recently saw this video and switched to the Beyerdynamics DT770's and my goodness, they're amazing! Incredible headphones for mixing and just listening to music. You can hear so clearly where each element of the song is in the stereo field. Bass is great, way better than the AT M50's in my opinion.

    • @EdwinDekker71
      @EdwinDekker71 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Athm50 are only good for tracking imho, not for mixing. Edit: typo

    • @radlertv-em9so
      @radlertv-em9so 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What audio interface or amp did you use

  • @partharoy2185
    @partharoy2185 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great info. Loved the way you explained it. Thanks!

  • @memneophilia
    @memneophilia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wish others explained things like you do. I actually got the answer i was looking for. Cool

  • @davidgriffin79
    @davidgriffin79 4 ปีที่แล้ว +148

    You seem to be confusing power with voltage. Low impedance headphones need less voltage and more current to drive them; high impedance headphones need less current and more voltage to drive them. Power is the product of voltage and current; so for a constant power current and voltage are traded against each other. Smartphones do not, generally, have the voltage swing to drive higher impedance headphones but do have the current capability; pro and prosumer amplifiers can have a much higher voltage rail to play with and will have no problem providing the much greater voltages required for higher impedance headphones. Lower impedance headphones use thicker wire with fewer turns (therefore greater current at lower potential) in the drive unit to create their magnetic field. High impedance headphones use thinner wire with more turns (less current at greater potential). For the Beyerdynamic DT770 all impedances have the same sensitivity due the variation of wire diameter vs. length as described above.

    • @davidgriffin79
      @davidgriffin79 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@robjobse8860 None. I think higher impedance headphones are a legacy back to a time when headphones were used with amplifier's headphone sockets; and of course, studio gear. I've read there are audible differences between Beyer's DT770 series, but that may be just voicing.

    • @micheler.3439
      @micheler.3439 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Let's not forget the 'damping' factor, higher impedances allow for a better damping factor = more control on the actual push/pull of the diaphragms = more definition and a more 'precise' sculpting of the soundwaves, (at a higher voltage of course, otherwise it's worse than low impedance headphones)

    • @marktate3431
      @marktate3431 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@robjobse8860 Nothing at all unless you have an amplifier designed for them

    • @LeeboProductions
      @LeeboProductions 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@davidgriffin79 Some (especially older) amps sound shit unless driven pretty much maxed out - that's where 250 ohm headphones are useful.

    • @theslimeylimey
      @theslimeylimey 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It was my understanding 600ohm have less mass of copper which translates to more accurate and responsive diaphram movement. I have the 600 ohm version of DT880 and every review I saw said the 600ohm was better than the 250 which was close and the 80 ohm version which was noticeably inferior. I think the main reason we dont see 600ohm much anymore is because of the equipment we are plugging them into now not because 600ohm is old fashioned technology.

  • @louisjans9450
    @louisjans9450 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Simple but very useful 👍 But one question remains unanswered: which impedance messes up your hair most? 😜

  • @rachelmilloy7640
    @rachelmilloy7640 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, that was so interesting! You explained it very well!

  • @NainaKay
    @NainaKay 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the depth in this video, Learnt a lot!

  • @aryanz66
    @aryanz66 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Also, low impedance start hissing high power amps

  • @juliusway
    @juliusway 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Some good info but you only said one vague sentence about the possible sound quality difference between different impedance headphones of the same brand. So I’m still uninformed as to whether I should go for 32, 80 or 250 ohm dt770s for home studio use.

    • @GetRhythm2011
      @GetRhythm2011 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same here. Hm.

    • @jennifersmiles
      @jennifersmiles 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I got to the end of the video, but I still don't know which one to go for, too hmmm

    • @flywithyourfriends
      @flywithyourfriends 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      honestly 80 ohm is your best bet, their affordable. And as well as a nice sounding middle ground

    • @felixf4378
      @felixf4378 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It's all about your usage. If you have a dedicated amp and dac, go for the 250. If you will mostly use it your phone or laptop go with the 32 or 80 ohm. There's no a huge difference in sound quality. If you use the 250ohm on a phone it will sound good too but you won't be to turn it up higher. The volume might be too low for your taste.

    • @marciosouza8656
      @marciosouza8656 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@felixf4378 friend do you know if in Scarlett Solo 3 Gen a 32ohms fone Works good? I saw they recomend 80 ohms or more ..