I have watched several of your videos trying to gather as much info as possible to help me restore mine it came with a Briggs 5s can you give me any ideas on what motor I could use and use the original hood any help would be a great help
Hey Mike, that's usually the first question all of us DB guys want to know the answer to. Several things play into the answer. The first is the width of the engine and how the parts: muffler, carburetor, air cleaner are attached. I have an original David Bradley motor which was a Briggs model 8, 3.5 HP motor, so it was the second generation DB motor than the original 1 1/2 HP motor. It has an upright oil bath air cleaner that was attached to the front of the motor so width was no problem. I have two David Bradley gas tanks that I wanted to use and saw a video on a channel called Farm Alarm where Tracey used a 3.5 hp Predator engine from Harbor Freight that fit nicely. He built a housing for his air cleaner and Im not as good with a welder as he. But the air cleaner box was the only challenge because I removed the gas tank off the engine and used my original DB tank. Another good thing about Predator motors is they sit at a 45 degree angle like the old Continental motors they used to put on DBs. Tracey tried to make his look like an original Continental motor and purchased an old continental decal to put on the gas tank. Please look at his David Bradley rebuild on his "Farm Alarm" You Tube channel. My first DB had a 3.5 older Briggs engine (about 20 years old) that had an alignment of parts so I could use the Briggs gas tank. The smaller air cleaner that sat on top of the carburetor was shaved on one side to allow the hood to come down. Dont be afraid to create your own parts. Just think of purpose of function. You can build an air cleaner out of most anything as long as it covers the air intake sufficiently. One drawback will be what kind of carburetor you have on your 5s. If it is an updraft small gas tank then the tank is attached to the carburetor instead of having a gas line rubber hose that will allow you to connect a David Bradley gas tank to. My 1950s Briggs 6s motor has that problem. I'd have to get a different carburetor to be able to use my David Bradley tank for it. The Predator engines have the rubber hose gas line that allows you to use a David Bradley tank.
I have been researching the original color schemes for David Bradley tractors. This following information came from a research article about the David Bradley Company. It has the best info I've seen. The question is can these paints still be found or created. The characteristic red and green color scheme was used on the garden tractor. The hood was red, with green “David Bradley” lettering on both sides. The wheel rims on the tractor were light green. All of the accompanying yard and garden implements for the garden tractor were red. This color scheme, used for the entire David Bradley line of equipment, identifies the David Bradley light green as Martin Senour 90R-3724 or PPG - 41780. This light green paint is cross-referenced as Martin-Senour 21944 or DuPont 43073. David Bradley red is identified as Martin Senour 90R-3725 or PPG - 72155. However, collectors have found that these paints can be hard to find. To solve this problem, an exact match to the David Bradley green can be made by a mixture of 50% John Deere green and 50% John Deere yellow. The exact shade of green is a “Signal Green,” which is available from NAPA Stores under Martin-Senour paint number 21944. The Ditzler number is #41780 and the DuPont number is #43073. C.H. Wendel, in his collection of paint numbers published in a booklet called Wendel’s Notebook, is of great assistance to the restorer of farm machinery by identifying many different paint colors by their paint number. (Wendel’s Notebook is available for $8.50 from C.H. Wendel in Atkins, IA, Tel: [319] 446-7156.) Some collectors report that International Harvester red is indistinguishable from the color on paint found on the protected areas of some tractors. Other collectors, however, have found that Massey-Ferguson red is an exact match with paint found on their tractors. Actually, both of these findings may be accurate. The reason for the discrepancy in the red color is that David Bradley, like many companies, did not buy paint from the same company. They bought paint from the lowest bidder over the years which resulted in variations in the shade of red on the David Bradley equipment. The lettering on the side of the garden tractor is a darker shade of green than the “signal green” used for the wheel rims. The shade of this green appears to be the same as the “Meadow green” used on Oliverfarm tractors. Wendel’s Notebook says this is Martin-Senour 3751. Following the color scheme of all David Bradley farm equipment, the walk-behind tractor was painted red with light green wheels. However, in its final year of production-1963-while all the implements remained with the traditional color scheme, the tractor was painted gold with royal blue wheels. One of these 1963 model tractors together with a complete set of implements-including a cultivator, plow, disc, drag harrow, sickle mower, bulldozer blade, sulky and dump rake-is owned by Marilyn (Hanks) Wells of LeSueur, Minnesota, and is exhibited at the LeSueur County Pioneer Power Show each year. Spray can colors used: VSTROM803: I used Rustoleum Gloss Fern Green. It is nearly idetical to the original paint. The Duplicolor Grabber Green just looked too neon to me. Bryan Horne: Valspar Luscious Green is a good color for walk behind tractors. Bryan Horne on You Tube uses this color for DB wheels.
Good morning, I had to verify I was the individual making the order which I didn't mind. Once that was done my order was filled promptly and I was given ability to track my order. Received within a week. Good quality tire! I plan to order another set for my 3rd DB I'm starting this week.
Hey Gene, good to hear from you. Gene if you mean the back plate to the clutch assembly then I have taken one apart from an older DB with the spring lock clutch. I have been unable to take a ball lock clutch apart due to the pin being stuck in the outer plate. The 1953 that I'm currently working on the pin is loose enough to remove but I don't want to disassemble the clutch unless it needs to be tightened. I hope to have the tractor painted by next weekend and fully reassembled in 2 weeks. At that time, I will run it and see how snug the clutch is. I'll get back to you if I do take it apart. Dan OConnor has a very good video showing the disassembled ball lock clutch. I highly recommend it. If you have the twist on outer plate i definitely recommend Dan's video on removing them. I also have some directions on removing that one. It has the allen screw holding it together.
Could the audio be any worse than it is? We click on this stuff because we are interested, and then you can't be heard. As my father ,God rest his soul, would say: " You have something to say then speak up and be heard. "
Hey Rob, I live in NC and have a friend here that has the largest collection of DB stuff. Are you talking about the finger clickers and springs? Do you live in NC?
@@bryanhorne8202 I live in Tennessee. The clicker part I am looking for holds the spring and finger. It is over the axle and inside the outer click hub. It has a clamp on the end of it that is at the end of the axle. One of mine is cracked at the end of the journal slot. It would probably run fine as is with the clamp oriented to hold it together. Maybe I'll try to cook the grease out & get it nickel TIG welded. But, if I could find a replacement.... Could use a few other things if your friend has parts and attachments or pieces of attachments. Seeder discs & chain, cultivator shanks/sweeps ect. Maybe I would drive out there. I drove to Cincinnati for Choremaster stuff....
Hey Rob. Mike said he would be glad to talk with you. He lives in the Burlington NC area, 336- 675-4083. He is the David Bradley guru for NC and has multiple duplicates. He'll have David Bradley stuff you've never heard of. If you need David Bradley manuals give me the serial number of the piece and I'll try to find the manuals. Email me at fuzzhawk1958@outlook.com
Did you have any trouble ordering tires through Simple Tire? I've read a lot of reviews and most of them are negative.
I have watched several of your videos trying to gather as much info as possible to help me restore mine it came with a Briggs 5s can you give me any ideas on what motor I could use and use the original hood any help would be a great help
Hey Mike, that's usually the first question all of us DB guys want to know the answer to. Several things play into the answer. The first is the width of the engine and how the parts: muffler, carburetor, air cleaner are attached. I have an original David Bradley motor which was a Briggs model 8, 3.5 HP motor, so it was the second generation DB motor than the original 1 1/2 HP motor. It has an upright oil bath air cleaner that was attached to the front of the motor so width was no problem. I have two David Bradley gas tanks that I wanted to use and saw a video on a channel called Farm Alarm where Tracey used a 3.5 hp Predator engine from Harbor Freight that fit nicely. He built a housing for his air cleaner and Im not as good with a welder as he. But the air cleaner box was the only challenge because I removed the gas tank off the engine and used my original DB tank. Another good thing about Predator motors is they sit at a 45 degree angle like the old Continental motors they used to put on DBs. Tracey tried to make his look like an original Continental motor and purchased an old continental decal to put on the gas tank. Please look at his David Bradley rebuild on his "Farm Alarm" You Tube channel. My first DB had a 3.5 older Briggs engine (about 20 years old) that had an alignment of parts so I could use the Briggs gas tank. The smaller air cleaner that sat on top of the carburetor was shaved on one side to allow the hood to come down. Dont be afraid to create your own parts. Just think of purpose of function. You can build an air cleaner out of most anything as long as it covers the air intake sufficiently. One drawback will be what kind of carburetor you have on your 5s. If it is an updraft small gas tank then the tank is attached to the carburetor instead of having a gas line rubber hose that will allow you to connect a David Bradley gas tank to. My 1950s Briggs 6s motor has that problem. I'd have to get a different carburetor to be able to use my David Bradley tank for it. The Predator engines have the rubber hose gas line that allows you to use a David Bradley tank.
I have been researching the original color schemes for David Bradley tractors. This following information came from a research article about the David Bradley Company. It has the best info I've seen. The question is can these paints still be found or created.
The characteristic red and green color scheme was used on the garden tractor. The hood was red, with green “David Bradley” lettering on both sides. The wheel rims on the tractor were light green. All of the accompanying yard and garden implements for the garden tractor were red. This color scheme, used for the entire David Bradley line of equipment, identifies the David Bradley light green as Martin Senour 90R-3724 or PPG - 41780. This light green paint is cross-referenced as Martin-Senour 21944 or DuPont 43073. David Bradley red is identified as Martin Senour 90R-3725 or PPG - 72155. However, collectors have found that these paints can be hard to find. To solve this problem, an exact match to the David Bradley green can be made by a mixture of 50% John Deere green and 50% John Deere yellow. The exact shade of green is a “Signal Green,” which is available from NAPA Stores under Martin-Senour paint number 21944. The Ditzler number is #41780 and the DuPont number is #43073. C.H. Wendel, in his collection of paint numbers published in a booklet called Wendel’s Notebook, is of great assistance to the restorer of farm machinery by identifying many different paint colors by their paint number. (Wendel’s Notebook is available for $8.50 from C.H. Wendel in Atkins, IA, Tel: [319] 446-7156.) Some collectors report that International Harvester red is indistinguishable from the color on paint found on the protected areas of some tractors. Other collectors, however, have found that Massey-Ferguson red is an exact match with paint found on their tractors. Actually, both of these findings may be accurate. The reason for the discrepancy in the red color is that David Bradley, like many companies, did not buy paint from the same company. They bought paint from the lowest bidder over the years which resulted in variations in the shade of red on the David Bradley equipment. The lettering on the side of the garden tractor is a darker shade of green than the “signal green” used for the wheel rims. The shade of this green appears to be the same as the “Meadow green” used on Oliverfarm tractors. Wendel’s Notebook says this is Martin-Senour 3751.
Following the color scheme of all David Bradley farm equipment, the walk-behind tractor was painted red with light green wheels. However, in its final year of production-1963-while all the implements remained with the traditional color scheme, the tractor was painted gold with royal blue wheels. One of these 1963 model tractors together with a complete set of implements-including a cultivator, plow, disc, drag harrow, sickle mower, bulldozer blade, sulky and dump rake-is owned by Marilyn (Hanks) Wells of LeSueur, Minnesota, and is exhibited at the LeSueur County Pioneer Power Show each year.
Spray can colors used:
VSTROM803: I used Rustoleum Gloss Fern Green. It is nearly idetical to the original paint. The Duplicolor Grabber Green just looked too neon to me.
Bryan Horne: Valspar Luscious Green is a good color for walk behind tractors. Bryan Horne on You Tube uses this color for DB wheels.
Good morning, I had to verify I was the individual making the order which I didn't mind. Once that was done my order was filled promptly and I was given ability to track my order. Received within a week. Good quality tire! I plan to order another set for my 3rd DB I'm starting this week.
Bryan Horne Alright thanks for the info. I think I'll try and get a set of 6.00x16's from them.
have you had the back plate off the transaxle?
Hey Gene, good to hear from you. Gene if you mean the back plate to the clutch assembly then I have taken one apart from an older DB with the spring lock clutch. I have been unable to take a ball lock clutch apart due to the pin being stuck in the outer plate. The 1953 that I'm currently working on the pin is loose enough to remove but I don't want to disassemble the clutch unless it needs to be tightened. I hope to have the tractor painted by next weekend and fully reassembled in 2 weeks. At that time, I will run it and see how snug the clutch is. I'll get back to you if I do take it apart. Dan OConnor has a very good video showing the disassembled ball lock clutch. I highly recommend it. If you have the twist on outer plate i definitely recommend Dan's video on removing them. I also have some directions on removing that one. It has the allen screw holding it together.
Could the audio be any worse than it is? We click on this stuff because we are interested, and then you can't be heard. As my father ,God rest his soul, would say: " You have something to say then speak up and be heard. "
Sorry Tom, I've been using my cell phone to make the videos. I'll look into using a better device.
Do you have any spare parts? I am doing a 1955, 5HP Special. I need the inner piece of the "clicker" hub. #9461M
Hey Rob, I live in NC and have a friend here that has the largest collection of DB stuff. Are you talking about the finger clickers and springs? Do you live in NC?
@@bryanhorne8202 I live in Tennessee. The clicker part I am looking for holds the spring and finger. It is over the axle and inside the outer click hub. It has a clamp on the end of it that is at the end of the axle. One of mine is cracked at the end of the journal slot. It would probably run fine as is with the clamp oriented to hold it together. Maybe I'll try to cook the grease out & get it nickel TIG welded. But, if I could find a replacement.... Could use a few other things if your friend has parts and attachments or pieces of attachments. Seeder discs & chain, cultivator shanks/sweeps ect. Maybe I would drive out there. I drove to Cincinnati for Choremaster stuff....
Rob let me get permission to share his contact info and I'll get back with you.
@@bryanhorne8202 Perfect. I am heading out to a job now. Will check back later.
Hey Rob. Mike said he would be glad to talk with you. He lives in the Burlington NC area, 336- 675-4083. He is the David Bradley guru for NC and has multiple duplicates. He'll have David Bradley stuff you've never heard of. If you need David Bradley manuals give me the serial number of the piece and I'll try to find the manuals. Email me at fuzzhawk1958@outlook.com